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Answer Me 1994: Episode 12

It’s a lovely episode with honest feelings, heart-wringing twists, and reunions with past loves, old friends, and family. And maybe, just maybe, it also marks the tentative, hopeful start of something new.

Soooo, tvN has announced that it will be extending the series by one episode. It’s airing off-schedule now because of last week’s preemption, though it’s not like it actually took away an episode. But now the series will have 21 episodes so it can end on a Saturday, which isn’t a surprise given its ratings. Sigh. This had better not mess things up for the final stretch. *shakes fist menacingly*

 
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EPISODE 12: “The miracle that will happen to us”

It’s June 1995, which means Mom and Dad’s baby Sook-sookie is already born. Haitai babysits by dancing to Roo’Ra’s “Angel Without Wings” with Baby in his arms. Mom chats away on the phone with a hometown friend about coming up from Masan for her son’s wedding. She calls him Jae-seok, which makes me think it’s one of Garbage’s hyungs.

On Binggeure’s turn to rock the baby it’s Park Jin-young’s “Don’t Leave Me” as lullaby, and Mom has another conversation about how the youngest of the brothers who lived with them for some time is the sweetest, and how she worries about him living with his hyung Jae-hyung. Okay, definitely Garbage.

And then it’s Sung Jin-woo’s “Don’t Give Up” as Chilbongie serenades Baby, complete with rattle-as-microphone. This time Mom’s friend asks about Na-jung and if she has a boyfriend, and Mom sighs that she hasn’t even had a hint of a prospect.

She wonders at the poor sap who will marry her and have to deal with her terrible temperament, with Chilbongie sitting right there. Ha. And not to be left out, Samcheonpo takes a turn and raps Kim Gun-mo’s “Wrongful Meeting” at Baby. That is decidedly the worst lullaby choice ever.

Dad goes to the hospital and clucks in disapproval when he sees how worn out Garbage looks. It still breaks my heart that he doesn’t live at the house anymore. Dad’s here to visit a childhood friend who’s been diagnosed with a brain tumor, and Garbage leads him down the hall, promising to look into the case.

Dad braces himself before entering the room and does his best to greet his friend with a smile on his face.

At home Mom tells Na-jung to hurry up because they have to go, and gasps in horror to see her come out in sweats. Mom says she can’t go over there to see the oppas looking that way, but Na-jung grumps that it’s nothing they haven’t seen before. For a second I thought they were going to the wedding like this, but it’s still the day before.

Rewind to ten minutes ago, when Na-jung was sitting in her room in a pretty pink dress. She even got the makeup out and started to get all dolled up to see Oppa… but then went totally overboard and ended up looking like a clown, which only depressed her more. So she washed it all off and came out in sweats. I so feel that pain.

She gets sent to drop off a suit for Garbage to wear to his brother’s wedding tomorrow, and she hesitates at Oppa’s door, deciding to at least powder her nose before ringing the bell. His hyung Jae-hyung answers (ha, he’s played by Jo Jae-yoon, a great character actor who’s in every drama ever).

As expected the place is a pigsty, and Middle Hyung is hilariously tacky. He’s shocked at how much Na-jung has grown up, and jokes that he ought to marry her. Dude, get in line.

He does seem genuinely worried when he talks about his little brother though, because he’s working himself to the bone lately especially with his new internship at a Gangnam hospital, which makes the commute harder on him.

Garbage comes home in such a sleepy stupor that he doesn’t even open his eyes and lies down on the couch and peels his shirt off to sleep, not even noticing Na-jung sitting in the living room. It’s only when hyung calls out to her to leave with him that Garbage cracks one eye open and sees her.

Still, when he gets up to give her a ride home, she’s back to adorable smiles. She says he didn’t have to drive her but he pinches her cheek, calling her his little monkey, and says it’d be dangerous: “It’s dark out and someone might mistake you for pretty and take you.” Hahahahaha. Gah, you are SUCH an oppa.

She snaps at him to stop touching her and pinching her cheeks, and he counters that it’s just his way of showing affection: “It’s because I like you.” She only hears it as, I like you like a sister, and gripes that she’s a woman too.

She asks if that’s how he was with all his past girlfriends, naming each with such accurate details that Oppa is surprised, realizing there’s nothing about him she doesn’t know.

He says again that it’s really because he likes her (Granted he’s not saying any of this in love-confession tone. It’s all just passing conversation.) and then goes with, “Are you on your period?” Oh noes.

That’s really not what she meant by “I’m a woman,” but then he goes off on this medical tangent about the symptoms of PMS, and aaaack, somebody stop him. She finally claps a hand over his mouth and orders him to drop her off at the next corner.

Yoon-jin and Samcheonpo wait in line to see Seo Taiji, and he complains about how much money she spends on all the useless things Seo Taiji has CF contracts to endorse, like the shirts they’re always wearing or the popsicle she’s eating now.

She finds it endearing that he’s jealous of Seo Taiji, and snuggles up to him, making him melt instantly. She asks if they can’t come back for tomorrow’s concert since today is just a rehearsal, but he pouts that she promised to go to see his concert of choice if he went to ten of hers. That’s cute.

He has tickets for tomorrow and insists they have to go despite her sour face at his ajusshi music tastes. But as soon as he drops the suggestion that he could go with her to next week’s Seo Taiji concert, she’s all aboard the ajusshi train.

Back in the car, Garbage is belting out a song by Green Zone that Yoon-jin just dissed as old-mannish (it’s “I’m Going to Love You,” posted above, which is a song all about how he’s going to love her quietly from afar in his own way even though she’ll never know… aaaand now I’m back to swooning at Oppa).

He asks for a tissue because he’s sick with a cold, and Na-jung only now notices how filthy the car is. She reaches over to peel the bit of tissue he left stuck to his lip and feel his forehead, and this time it’s Garbage who reels from Na-jung’s touch.

Na-jung gets all aegyorific with the “oppaaaaaaa, oppa-ya,” before asking if he’ll go to a musical with her. He has a study group session that night, but also complains that he doesn’t care for musicals because he doesn’t get why they have to sing everything.

Garbage: “I like you. I don’t like you. Why can’t they just say it?” You did NOT just say that. It’s what I’ve been screaming at you for seven weeks!

She sighs and tells him to pull over for some ddukboki. He sits down and asks permission to order soondae, and does this ridiculously cute fist-spazz in glee when she allows it.

She asks about his eldest hyung’s bride-to-be and asks what he likes about her, like her personality or her background. Oppa sighs that she knows nothing about men, and says the only thing they care about is a hot bod. It’s like you have a burning desire to be thwacked in the head.

They apparently have a rule about him never dipping his soondae in her ddukboki sauce, which of course he breaks the second she averts her gaze. They spend the rest of the meal with her back turned, and him making raptor-faces at her behind her back. It’s strange and adorable.

He walks her home and declines to go inside knowing he’ll end up drinking all night if the other kids see him around. He heard that Haitai has a new girlfriend, and she says he met her on a group blind date and already kissed her.

He tells her to go inside, and Na-jung just stands there silently with her arms outstretched until he laughs and hugs her. Awwwwww.

At home, the rest of the group is busy hearing about Haitai’s latest girl, his second new girlfriend in two weeks. He’s getting ready to go on an overnight trip with her, and everyone asks which of the girls had better legs or was a better kisser.

Na-jung joins them mid-conversation and she starts naming all his past girls as he tells them what he liked about each of them.

But then she asks about his hometown girlfriend, and suddenly Haitai grows quiet. Yoon-jin asks why he’s not talking, and Samcheonpo nudges her not to bring up that ex.

In voiceover, Na-jung says: “I learned it then—to a man there is always that one woman that should never be touched—her name is First Love.”

Garbage gets back home and hyung mentions that his first love Joo-kyung will be at the wedding tomorrow, since she’s the bride’s best friend. Garbage gets quiet for a moment at the mention of her (and how much she broke his heart and made him cry), but assures him that he’s totally over it and could probably have coffee with her and be fine with it.

He says he likes someone new now, and plans to confess properly once his internship is over. I still don’t know why you even waited this long, but speed is obviously not your strong suit.

Hyung gets super excited about the new crush, especially when Garbage says she’s really pretty (though he calls her personality terrible, ha). He says she’ll be at the wedding tomorrow, so he can try and guess who it is there. Can I just say, you giggling like an idiot when you talk about her is such a nice change of pace from the foggy non-answers.

Chilbongie pops into Na-jung’s room to confirm their plans for tomorrow night. She helped him with some homework so she requires a meal at the fancy new Gangnam mall and a tape as payment, which of course is a win-win for Chilbongie who gets a date out of it. She has the wedding and he has baseball practice, so they agree to meet at the mall tomorrow, and then he helps cover her face in cucumber slices and piles them on till she’s buried. So cute.

Dad visits with his buddy in the hospital and they laugh about the old days. When his friend waxes nostalgic about their favorite rice cakes from home, Dad promises to pick him up a piece on his next away game. But by the next day, Garbage looks in on the same ajusshi who was talking up a storm and laughing just last night, and he’s lying in his bed without moving a muscle.

Garbage is especially friendly with a family who shares the same room, and is happy to find out that the mom who’s sick is well enough to check out tomorrow. The husband notes that they have the same watch and Garbage says it was a wedding gift from his brother.

He gets so distracted that he has to be paged to get his ass to the wedding, and runs in late to join his family in the greeting line. His dad scowls in disapproval while his mom dotes.

What… on earth is Middle Hyung wearing? He’s got a three-piece suit on with no shirt inside, and declares proudly that it’s what (R&B group) SOLID does. Pfffft.

The parents light up when they see Na-jung’s family arrive, and the adults greet each other happily. The oppas’ parents coo when they see how pretty Na-jung is, and joke that she ought to marry into their family. Middle Hyung volunteers for the job, and Dad asks if he wants to die. Ha.

They suggest their maknae, but Mom and Dad scoff at the idea that those two could go two seconds without tearing each other’s hair out. The whole time Garbage and Na-jung keep stealing glances at each other in turn, and Garbage doesn’t even try to hide the shit-eating grin on his face whenever he looks at her.

After the ceremony, Garbage sits down in the banquet hall with a table of his old friends, and they ask if First Hyung bought him anything as a gift since he introduced the newlyweds. He shows off the new watch.

The girl at the table muses at how odd it is that this is the couple that ended up married when she always thought Garbage would marry Joo-kyung. The guys get all awkward at the mention of Garbage’s first love, and chide her for bringing it up.

Na-jung sits down next to him and when Middle Hyung gives her what he thinks is the best thing on his plate, she scowls. Garbage immediately takes it off and tells hyung she’s picky about her food, and gives her the things from his own plate that she likes.

Of course then he follows up the sweet moment by ordering her to go get another plate of what he likes, heh.

While she grabs another plate at the buffet, the dreaded ex shows up. Na-jung watches tensely as she walks over to the table and sits down next to Oppa. Noooo.

Na-jung plops down at the next table over with the housemates, and tells them that she’s Oppa’s First Love. Yoon-jin calls her pretty, and Samcheonpo says there’s no such thing as a first love who isn’t pretty, which gets him strangled. Haitai looks over at Na-jung with concern.

Binggeure suddenly runs out after getting paged, and then Garbage gets paged from work soon after and gets up to go. The dreaded ex gets up to return to the office as well, and when the friends point out they’re headed in the same direction, Garbage agrees to give her a ride. The horrible part is that Na-jung has to watch them leave together.

He doesn’t even seem that interested in First Love (or he’s possibly still angry), and when she gets in the car and asks if he wants to have coffee, he says he’s busy and offers to drop her at a subway stop. Phew, that’s the last we’re seeing of her, right?

The housemates leave the wedding and Yoon-jin and Samcheonpo head off to their concert, and Haitai frowns to hear that even Na-jung has plans and everyone is ditching him. She rushes toward Gangnam, worried that traffic might make her late to meet Chilbongie.

At the hospital, Garbage gets a page from Binggeure that sends him running. Apparently his mother collapsed, which was why he ran out of the wedding. Garbage runs to the emergency room and finds Binggeure there with his little brother Dong-woo, both sick with worry and not knowing what to do.

Garbage speaks with the doctors and nurses and returns with assurances that their mom will be fine—she just fainted from shock. He takes out money from his wallet and tells Little Bro to go grab a bite to eat and bring something back for Binggeure, knowing he’s too stubborn to budge from his mother’s bedside.

Binggeure sticks right by her side as she gets moved for tests, and the nurse asks why he didn’t tell the staff sooner that his hyung worked here. He looks up in surprise, and she says he doesn’t look anything like Garbage, who must resemble their father. Aw. She said his hyung asked them to take extra special care of their mom.

Elsewhere in the hospital Dad is back to see his friend, but this time he’s hiding out in the hallway listening to his friend’s mad ramblings, heartbroken at his sudden decline.

Na-jung sits on the bus checking and re-checking her watch, but traffic is at a standstill. Chilbongie gets to the mall early and heads to the record store to buy the tape he promised, and asks the clerk if the noodle place upstairs requires reservations. She tells him it’s closed right now because of construction, and suggests a place nearby that’s just as good.

Meanwhile a news report breaks describes the ongoing labor negotiations for a subway construction project. And on Na-jung’s bus, suddenly everybody’s pagers start going off all at once. Uh-oh.

In the concert hall, Yoon-jin and Samcheonpo get paged, and soon the entire audience is buzzing.

Na-jung looks out the window when she hears sirens outside, and cranes her neck out the window when she sees it—the jumbo screen on the building across the way, with the breaking news of a mall’s collapse to the ground, with about a thousand people buried inside. OHGOD it’s where she’s supposed to meet Chilbongie!

Na-jung freezes in shock, and by the time she gets up to exit, she’s sobbing and pounding on the bus door to open. Ugh, there’s just this knot in my chest. She gets off the bus and starts running, barely holding it together as she swallows back the tears.

Haitai watches the news from home and calls Na-jung in a panic and asks her to call back because he’s worried. He paces in his room, waiting to hear back.

At the same time, Yoon-jin and Samcheonpo hear what happened and run to the payphone. They call Chilbongie and leave a message asking if he’s okay, and to call them because they’re worried. Samcheonpo: “You’re okay, right? Right?” Yoon-jin cries the whole time, and he hugs her close.

Na-jung runs the whole way and waits for the light to change at an intersection, leaning on a tree to help keep her standing. When she catches her breath and looks up, ohthankyou there’s Chilbongie waving at her from across the street, happy as a clam, with no idea what’s going on.

The light turns green and he runs across the street to her. She remains frozen in place, reeling from the shock. It’s only when he stops right in front of her that he notices she’s sniffling back tears and trembling.

She throws her arms around him and breaks down in full heaping sobs. He doesn’t know why she’s crying, but just puts his arms around her as she cries into his chest. Na-jung says in voiceover:

Na-jung: Some people say there are miracles, and some people say there’s no such thing. But in moments of urgency, people inevitably pray and wait for a miracle. Thus, miracles need to exist—so that in all times of urgency there is some glimmer of hope for people to dwell on. Miracles need to exist.

At the same time, Oppa is in the thick of the triage hotpot, the hospital flooded with the injured and dying as he races from one bed to the other. (Now we know why they made a point of him working across town at a Gangnam hospital.)

It all happens in this dreamlike slow motion, and as he loses another patient, he looks down at the man’s bloodied wrist. Augh, it’s the same watch as his—his patient’s husband who went out to go buy dinner for his wife and little son on their last day at the hospital.

As Oppa looks around the emergency room, his face and coat covered in other people’s blood, a single tear pools in his eye and trickles down his face.

Na-jung: But miracles are miracles because they aren’t common. There are far more misfortunes we don’t think of than miracles we don’t expect. That is the world. Life is too cold and harsh to live believing only in miracles.

Dad’s friend has a lucid day, and tells him he has no intention of dying anytime soon. They laugh and agree that he’ll be fine and outlive them all. But on the day that he returns from that away game with those rice cakes in hand, it’s to attend his friend’s funeral.

Dad lashes out, cursing at his friend for leaving such a young son and wife behind. “How could you go like that, you terrible bastard? Where is there a Buddha and a Jesus? How could you take someone fighting to live?! Why you?!”

Na-jung: In the end, miracles are a matter of probability. Miracles only exist to one person, and to the 9,999 others, are simply empty talk of that thing they call miracles. Life is cruel with its absolute and overwhelming probability. But still, miracles are needed. Rather than the despair of a zero probability that will never come to pass, a ten-million-to-one chance is better. That is how hope exists.”

Sometime later, the news reports of another miracle save in the ongoing rescue effort after the mall’s collapse.

Mom calls Garbage to say she sent Na-jung over with food, but he’s sleeping at the hospital tonight. He calls Hyung, who mentions that he’s going to have some friends over, and brags about having a new girlfriend.

He remembers he never confirmed the identity of the girl Garbage likes, and asks if she came to their brother’s wedding. While they’re on the phone, the doorbell rings at the apartment and Garbage tells him it’s probably Na-jung. “And if you make a pass at her, I’ll kill you.” Hee.

Hyung calls him crazy: “She’s like a sister! What, is she your girlfriend or something?” And THEN, Oppa just smiles this goofy smile that says everything. His hyung can’t even see it, but it’s like he can sense it from the silence, and guesses right away that Na-jung is the girl.

He busts a gut and giggles teasingly, asking when it started as he lets Na-jung into the apartment. Garbage warns him to keep his trap shut because she doesn’t even know yet.

The day of her musical comes around, and Na-jung gets all dressed up to go anyway, but sighs in defeat when she realizes it’s hopeless to wait around for Oppa to suddenly change his mind. She gets up to change, when Mom pops in and hands her the phone.

We just see her rocking back and forth in excitement as she talks to someone on the phone, and then when she runs outside… Oppa is standing there waiting. Kyaaaa.

She’s shocked he didn’t forget about the musical, and he chides that it’s not a thing to forget. He asks if she wants to go on a date with oppa, and stretches out his hand.

She lights up and walks up to him, eyes hopeful. She slowly raises her hand and puts it in his, and he leads her away by the hand.

Na-jung: What is the probability that out of seven billion people on the planet, the person I like would like me back? Right now a miracle might happen to me.

 
COMMENTS

He showed up! That’s a miracle in and of itself. It’s like his first time really showing up when it matters. Have we finally seen the death of Arbitrarily Opaque Oppa? (Please say yes, and please don’t ever bring him back from the grave.) I still contend that it was in service of withholding information to the detriment of the character that we had to go such a long stretch without ever getting a glimpse of this Garbage—the one who giggles like a little boy when he talks about his crush. In this episode it was even more blatant that he had no real obstacles holding him back—no family objections and no lingering attachment to a first love (and if it was more of a struggle over figuring out his heart, we should’ve been shown that). It makes the previous rendition of him that much more perplexing, except I think the real reason is an external choice to withhold for the sake of mystery, and it turned him into an involuntary chain-yanker.

But now that the show has finally decided that we’re allowed to know how Oppa feels, it’s pretty great. Because Oppa is great, especially when he gets to be himself and himself is a Na-jung-loving fool. It’s so refreshing to see him being so openly adorable when he talks to his brother about the girl he likes, or when he steals glances at her thinking he’s being stealthy. Him being terrible about how to express the mushy stuff doesn’t bother me (and I find his foot-in-mouth syndrome endlessly cute), as long as WE know that he likes her. Though I still have no idea why he’d wait so long to confess after declaring he’d fight Chilbongie to win, but then, his idea of progress makes a sloth look like a marathon winner. It’s okay though—that outstretched hand at the end was perfectly perfect in that understated but full-of-love, Oppa-esque way, and he’s lucky because Na-jung is still in love with him by the time he reaches out to her.

The mall collapse was beautifully woven into the episode, which put so much focus on the wedding (and the first love misdirect) that we were blindsided by the tragedy that we didn’t expect. I for one had a momentary freak-out when I thought that Binggeure’s little brother might end up being wheeled into the emergency room after going out for dinner, since that’s what the dad with the watch was doing when he got trapped. Maybe I’m just paranoid, but I was convinced we were going to have to pay a price for Chilbongie surviving. Na-jung’s moment with him blindsided me too, because I was all ready to call it Oppa’s game, and then she had such a visceral reaction to Chilbongie being okay that it gave me hope that she might love him. Now I feel completely torn.

I was all ready to forgive Oppa and cheer him on, but then they put Chilbongie on the chopping block and my heart leapt to my throat. But at the end of the day it was really everyone’s sincere concern for one another that brought tears to my eyes—Haitai, Samcheonpo, and Yoon-jin’s worried calls, and Na-jung’s desperate race to find Chilbongie. It was mirrored in Dad’s heartbreaking loss of a friend, and Garbage stepping up to take care of Binggeure without having to be asked. And I love that that’s the heart of this show—that love between friends who take bonds that could be fleeting, and turn them into family instead.

 
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Team Trash!!! Back on the road.

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The thing is I don’t blame trash for hesitating. You have to imagine how they grew up – they were raised like siblings. It’s like confessing to your cousin or something – it’s not something to be done lightly. He had to weigh all the relationships that would be affected by their decision – parents, siblings, extended family, friends, memories, traditions, etc.

They know so much about each other, warts and all. Past loves, actions, behaviors, mistakes, bad habits. It takes time to transition all that from brotherly love to romantic love. It was easier for NJ to confess, but Trash is the Oppa, the big brother. He probably feels a heavier burden about what their relationship will mean for all involved.

Hence, I don’t blame Trash for hesitating, and if that means CB gets the girl in the end, well that means it wasn’t meant to be (or the writers wrote it that way, lol). The relationships are what I enjoy the most. Many of us wish we are able to develop such close and genuine, lifelong friendships.

The acting in this drama is so stellar. As is the nuanced writing and grounding of the drama to that time period. Really excellent and makes me overlook any flaws the drama may have. Go Ara is doing well, but surprisingly she is not the break out star of the drama for me. Yoonjin, Haitai, the Parents, Trash, are hitting it out of the park.

Can’t wait for the remaining 8 episodes.

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I definitely agree with what you wrote about all the things that Trash has to consider!

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Agreed about the acting. I really forgave a lot from Trash Oppa because Jung Woo did such an amazing job of making him likeable and showing all of this stuff going on, even if the script didn't really support it.

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=P Writers write more than the dialogue, just to let you know. Writers also can write small actions and character write ups which give the actors a direction to go in. Sometimes the actors will ask the writer about the intentions they have for the character to double check that everyone in the script is on track.

'cause the worst thing that can happen is when an actor takes the character one way, the script takes it the other and the other actor that's supposed to cooperate has nothing to play because the actor doesn't line up with the script. Production is a cooperative effort, which is why *some* writers find it addicting over novel/short story writing.

Anyway, script is more than dialogue. Writers have to care about the subtleties of relationships between characters more than the actors do. (well, my experience.) Because writers see the whole picture more than the producer or the director. They initiate the overview process. =P Give us writers some credit.

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I agree about the acting, along with the directing and the basic storyline. They are all excellent. The scenes with the mall collapse were absolutely brilliantly acted out and directed because even though we know that everyone is okay in the present (2013), I still had that moment of OHGODNO don't kill chilbong! That's the sign of excellence to me. Def enough to overlook the slight flaws, including the pace of the drama. But honestly, at this point the more I get of these characters I don't mind, even if that means a one episode extension and slow pace. It can be a 50 epi drama and I'd still watch it because despite the pace, this show has SO much heart, and all the characters are well-writetn and well-executed by the actors. ~~Fighting Team 1994 !!~~

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I am sooo team Chilbongie! Dump Oppa and get with the baseball dude. I mean come on!

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Yesyesyesexactly, THANK YOU!

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Team Trash definitely back on the road. And it couldn't have happened any sooner! I totally agree with GF, I so do not like that the writers scarified the integrity of Garbage's personality to simply keep us guessing, I think that will be a weakness in this great show. But the show is so great I can't stay mad at it. What a great episode. I love Trash + goofy giggles.

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We should seriously have a poll of Chilbongie vs. Trash vs. Haitai (Haitai, because I know there are Haitai/Na-jung shippers out there).

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I have a soft spot for NaTai. He comes through for her a lot more than you'd expect from such a goofy character.

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i'm a little bothered by the fact that trash oppa didn't know or notice na jung was in the room until his brother called na jung.

when you're in love, especially at the early times of the relationship, the radar for the partner should be working overtime. you would know because you can feel her. (i mean, even with just crushes, that's the case?)

also there's something weird about na jung and oppa hugs. the hugs are what you call friendly hugs or comforting hugs... the placement of the hands are off. this is the case in this episode 12 hugs [SPOILER DELETED]

basically, romantic hug is when guy's hands are placed around the girl's waist and hips, and girl's hands are placed around the guy's shoulders and neck.

but maybe because they've been oppa-dongsaeng for a long time that they are used to friendly and comforting hugs and haven't yet adjusted to romantic or lover's types of hugs.

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oh, i mentioned about romantic hugs and the basic look of a romantic hug because it's the position where the couple indicate passion and a way to you know, tell the partner that you find him sexy and you want to be intimate with him/her.

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I think Oppa didn't notice Najung in the room... coz he is dead tired like... pretty much dead... I am not a medical intern I wouldn't know... but I had work so hard before... that I could have end up taking the cab home from work that I am so tired and I doze off after telling the driver my address and when I woke up, I find the driver driving at snail pace and I asked him, what's up he was like, "I am sorry but you seems so tired and I am not sure of the exact route to your place and I didn't want to take a wrong turn and prolong your journey, but I didn't know how to wake you to ask you the right road that leads you home so you can sleep at the comfort of your home", I quickly told him the right turning to junction of my house. It could have end in many worse scenario, but I just want to say... Yes one could be that dead tired... Like Joonhee... and Shiwon said he is like a walking corpse/zombie... It is possible to work so hard and being so tired and you hardly notice the surrounding, even if you had the love of your life in the same room as you...

As for the hugs, it did look kinda awkward... but I guess that is the consolation to themselves and us viewers after Oppa move out to stay with his hyung... The only situation where well... Najung can ask for a hug like legally... when its all well mostly Oppa petting her head or her waist and tease her by pulling her cheeks... So I actually like those hugs... its like a familiarity code between them... to make up for the lack of closeness from being under one roof.

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That seems reasonable but then he drove her afterward and stopped to eat on the roadside? If he was really really tired, then his brother could have taken na Jung home?

I know they do skin ship as friends and sort of brother-sister, that was not weird for me. What was weird is the inclination for her, knowing that she likes him romantically, and the inclination for him, knowing that he likes her romantically and that she likes him the same way, to hug in a non-romantic manner?

But yeah, i also said that maybe they are used to doing platonic skin ship and it may take time to adjust to express their romantic feelings to each other in a romantic way.

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My own experience from college and work. Sometimes, you'd get so tired. But something happened like you chat with somebody or you're doing something else.. you'd feel okay again for a while.

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AAAAAACK please don't write spoilers for episode 13 yet! :(

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From her perspective, he didn't notice, but did you notice when he finally realized she was there after being that tired, he sat up? Before he wouldn't do things like sit up for her (First episode). He fought and slept more. And then despite being that tired, he took her home, which he wouldn't do before.

Oppa is all subtleties--the stuff that traditional Korean stories love a lot. Americans might like words, but him, he's all little actions here and there. There isn't as much of a wall, you just have to observe.

XD My bro is a stereotypical Kyeongsang Man too, so I know the type. They might trash talk you, challenge you, but then that small expressions and their actions speak louder.

But then I know my brother (real brother) better than anyone else. He's far more opaque than Oppa, though. (to most). Haha. I feel bad for the women who will date him.

Trash Oppa strikes me as that type. He didn't notice her at first, sat up, because it's the woman he likes. She's annoyed at him continuing their brother-sister relationship, but she doesn't realize him brushing her hair and patting her on the head is his version of romance and his smiling at her like that and teasing her to rile her up in just that way is his way of saying he likes her. He keeps doing all these subconscious actions towards her which are not brotherly.

Trash's struggle now is how to develop the brother-sister relationship habits into more romantic ones. And that won't be easy, especially with the cultural habits in place.

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I haven't seen you for a while…where have you been? I"ve missed your msgs in OT.

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--;; Producing a short film. XD I've learned a lot about production and who actually does and is responsible for what.

Wrote it, cast it, produced it, didn't direct it. I only did two days of filming and I was beat--wasn't even on camera. I can't imagine what it's like to do it full time. I see why actors insist on keeping in shape--it's not just for the camera, but there is a ton of standing around, getting ready, boredom, and then tons and tons of walking, standing, etc.

Was a lot more fun, though 'cause the script I wrote was funny and the actors improvised here and there.

I have to say I have a lot of respect for Reply 1994 crew after this. But also I can spot when they are lying so badly in press releases.

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LOL yea koreans do love that subtleties stuff that you mentioned for sure haha i think thats why korean fans love him so much lol cuz they like that whole "never-says-it-to-your-face" but does all this caring stuff unexpectedly or without a need to bring attention to it. kinda like in the earlier episodes where oppa bought NJ crackers that she wanted (when she thought he had already left to school), got her that seal stuffed animal that looked like the one her brother had gotten her when she was young, did all the chores the anniversary of her bros passing, etc, etc

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I have to admit that I'm also a sucker for the small actions thing.

Chilbong is a good guy and all that, but he's all words most of the time. He says he likes her, but then shows up in a grandiose way and then leaves in a grandiose way. He also asks her to places without stating his intentions--like he wants it to be a date, but he recognizes it isn't.

^^;; Trash Oppa is more direct--when he likes her, he shows her without him even noticing. (Not getting into spoilers.) He's a lot more honest towards Na Jeong and himself when he realizes it. When he saw her drifting towards Chilbong, he always came in with smaller actions and swept her off her feet all over again. He doesn't need words. (The writers seem biased towards this too... given 1997's mention of hating large events, etc.)

But then I'd be really, really biased as someone who hung onto that Korean ideal and coming from Gyeongsang. ^.~ I like that ideal from Historical dramas too and get the Korean logic of it as well.

=P Plus I love my native satoori, too. *laughs* Which makes my brother, who is fully Americanized, roll his eyes. (Jeollado, too, but that's Eomma's satoori.) =P He insists on Seoulmal in a monotone voice. <--sibling teasing.

No do satoori saranghae, aiga? 노도 사투리 사랑해아이가.

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No matter how much I like a guy, if I'm dead tired I won't see him in the room. He's human after all. He walked in like a zombie with his eyes practically closed and just headed for the couch because he knows where it is even with his eyes closed.

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But he was able to be not tired enough to drive her home and eat a snack on the way?

If he was so tired to not notice her, then it makes sense that he wouldn't be able to drive her home and maybe it's better to let his brother drive her home?

It was just strange that he was so tired to notice her but he was okay enough to drive. But maybe he took a lot of coffee before driving her home, and that part was either not shown or edited out so as the audience, we did not see that.

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I feel like you're trying way too hard to fault Oppa for being a normal human being. If someone walks into a room dead tired, probably after a ridiculously long shift at work with their eyes basically shut off, I wouldn't really make too much of the fact that they didn't notice their crush was in the room. Oppa probably didn't notice anything, and just walked up to the couch on autopilot. When he did realize Najung was in the room, he dropped her off DESPITE being so tired. I think that was an incredibly sweet thing to do and it is another proof of how special Najung is to him. I seriously cannot believe this is being used to question the legitimacy of his feelings for her. Like what even?

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I agree with your observation about hugs. it's either the scriptwriters did not know body language, or the meaning of body language is different in South Korea.

chil bong and na jung's hug is the typical romantic hug but it doesn't make sense because although chil bong likes na Jung, she doesn't and the hug is between friends, one who is glad that the other is alive and one who is comforting the other while crying.

Trash oppa and na jung's hug is the typical platonic friendly hug. But probably you are right, even though they have romantic feelings for each other, their ways of expressing it have not yet adjusted from platonic expressing to romantic expressing...

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Right there with you! Team Oppa all the way!!!

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I think my Chil bong ship is sinking. Dad's friend's story was so sad. Sometimes we all hope for miracles but not all miracles are guaranteed.

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I can't with Chilbong. My heart is bleeding.

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Miracle exist! It won't!

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Don't give up just yet! It's episode 12! It's not like we're in episode 19... lol...

OMG... my heart broke when Najung hugged Chilbongie... I can imagine the guilt she would have felt if something bad happened to him.

Dad's friend... omg. Had me in tears. My cousin died from cancer a few months ago and another aunt was just diagnosed. Dad's scene just hit me right at the feels. :(

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Yeah! It ain't over till it's over!
Team Chilbong, all the way!!!!

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Awww, the long awaited recap is here, thank you so much...

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OMG the 360 degree of Trash it killing me, I just as giddy as he was! Trash and his brother is a hoot, I can't take it "YAH " I have falling in love with Trash character he is beautiful. The way he took care of "puppy" mother and how he wear his heart on his sleeve. He is want I want in a man all Trash prefect imperfections, gosh if only this man was not made up in a person head..... Side Note if anyone saw the movie He was Cool, Jung Woo kicking the wall was dejuv of Song Seung doing that exactly same cut from He was cool.....LOL

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Trash + his oppa together are comedic gold.

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His brother is a work of art... his tacky choice of wardrobe and how cheesy he is to Najung and he is all thinking he is the coolest dude on the block going to some clubs... The actor is just superb!!! I lol a lot in this ep thanks to him!

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traah and his hyung should get their own spin-off

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Yep, I'm definitely going down with CB. That scene with NJ crying and hugging him was the beating heart of this episode for me.

Oppa does NOT get a free pass for waiting around so long and letting NJ suffer (STILL)!

Also I thought Oppa's rejection of his first love's coffee date suggestion seemed to me to be a confirmation that he still had some lingering feelings for her...

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so NJ too shouldn't receive a green pass for letting poor CB suffer so much! He deserves better and NJ and T suited each other.

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Trash is not under a timeframe to let Na-Jung know his heart! He took time to see if he can be all in and as a mature woman Na-Jung respect that and understand it because she waiting without taken her eyes off the prize. Also Trash rejection to have coffee didn't suggestion anything but he didn't have time to have coffee. Now his decision to drop her off at the substation tell you there no feeling at all!

What you fell to understand is that Trash is Na-Jung first love, Chilbong can't overcome that!

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Even though I ship CB I think you are completely right about Trash. He is not on a time limit. I think Trash as a character is a great guy.

But I still like CB better because I prefer men like him in general lol

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Chilbongie all the way! I honestly don't think the end-game is Trash-oppa with Na-jung, just because it's way too early in the drama for that to be the case (if you recall 'Reply 1997', feelings between Shi-won and Yoon-jae weren't reciprocal until there were like 4 episodes left...and that was 16 episodes), so no worries!

And if Trash-oppa does actually turn out to be the husband...I'll sink on the Chilbongie-ship with you. *heart-breeeeaaak*

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Going down with this ship.

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ikr that scene of him waving across the street at her made me dissolve into tears. don't ever worry us like that again chilbongie!

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I felt like for CB that was a romantic hug where he was comforting her. For her, she was just glad he was alright. I think she doesn't see it as a date and he did see it as a date, which makes it much sadder for him. He keeps being opaque to her, but not the audience. He never has once stated it was a date when he asked her out to come to his games, because he's chicken she'll reject him.

Oppa is a lot more cautious. As someone older than the group, he doesn't work on impulse. He kinda got permission from his parents and her parents to make a move on her in a subtle way--he waited for that hurdle to clear. And then during the wedding he corrected the food error, despite him trying to get her attention by teasing her earlier, unaware she was going through the "Is this or isn't this a date?--because I know how he feels." He didn't get that. 'Cause guys aren't psychic.

The wedding wasn't the place to confess to her and he's not centered on her 24-7, either. He has his own inner world. He also respected hers, knowing she was going to meet CB later on. (Clear sense of boundaries without stating them.)

It was clear he was doing his ex a favor. The fact he DIDN'T go for coffee with her set a clear boundary that he didn't want to lead his ex on and he was making plans to try to warm up to telling NJ. From her frown and his smile it was clear she got the message that he was over her, which is what he wanted.

Then he gaged her feelings--because CB said he confessed to her, so she could have been swayed, which is when he did things like hugged her and didn't let her see him smiling and grabbed her hand and asked for a date directly, but playfully. He's being cautious, because unlike CB he has a ton more to lose if this should fail to pan out. He could lose NJ entirely. He could start a rivalry between his parents and her parents. And as the one older he carries all that responsibility which CB never has to worry about. (Which he directly stated to Haitai). And also NJ doesn't have to worry about. He knows what breaking up is like. NJ and CB doesn't. He's going to be more cautious.

When you're young you want love to be all centered on you 24-7, but as you fall in love, break up and gain experience in what you like and don't like the healthier relationship tends to be the one where there are new things to bring to the relationship because each person has their own lives and what counts isn't thinking of them 24-7, but making the time that they spend together as a couple count. Brilliantly shown, BTW.

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I'm happy for NJ but sad for CB :(
It feels like CB character has been put to the side. He only has a few short scene. If he doesn't end up with NJ, I just hope the writer will give CB another girl that will love and adore him as much as he does for NJ. He deserves it!!!!!!!!

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I agree too. but if he ends up with baseball girl -___-

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I am totally rotting for Chilbonggie, and i really feel bad in this episode. Though i was moved when, Na Jeung was over worried about the news (i cried too!). But, we can not fool ones' heart when it's inlove. And it's also nice to see Oppa Trash being real about his feeling for Na Jeung. The meeting of the two family in Trash hyung is really a plus for team Trash (sad face). Still, i am expecting for a twist that somehow, Na Jeung will see Chilbonggie in different limelight (happy face again!).

And ooppsss, did anyone notice that Chilbonggie, has a nice voice in the opening scene where he's singing for baby joon. Does he really sings for real?

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YYS has done theatre in the past. Recently he sang and played the piano at a wedding. There's a YT vid of the same.

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do you have a link?

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ahhh a;lsdkjf;lajsdf
this episode was so heartwrenching in many ways...
but hey, Chilbong definitely has a fighting spirit. TEAM CHILBONG ALL THE WAY.

but I feel like Najung, deep down inside, really does like Chilbong (or maybe even more) because of such a reaction after the collapse...
Their show puts in so much symbolism into their relationship, ahh!

I sincerely hope Chilbong is end game :)

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hear, hear

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I think at this stage, najong's feelings towards chilbongie is only as a friend. She cried because she was worried he might have been inside the collapsed building. Even yoon jin was crying. It is because all of them have formed such close bonds as friends. I think anybody would be worried sick to the point of crying if you know that your friend might be in an accident.

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NJ's desperate, powerful concern for CB (plus all the allusions to miracles) still makes me think that NJ cares tremendously about CB, but doesn't know it, yet.

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Oppa got game!

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Yes, yes, Oppa made a move (FINALLY!). A few things to point out though:

!) You know what's funny? Remember when Oppa said that he didn't want to break the family bond between him and Na Jung and didn't date her? It really contradicts his statements when his family (and hers, too) were openly supporting their possible relationship. What was he really thinking?

2) During the wedding banquet, I was so disappointed that Oppa did not defend Na Jung. As soon as his first love appeared, he disregarded Na Jung and did nothing when the Hyung told her to sit somewhere else. Seriously?

By the way, I must commend Jung Woo's acting skills. The man could do aegyo like no other without it looking tacky! :D

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yea his aegyo is srsly the cutest thing ever!! and he jumps from super cute to super serious (crying scene in the hospital
:( ) really well!! such an amazing actor....

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She was friends with the other at the table and was just being polite. NJ sit with her friends.

Plus, oppa fear is not the family being against their relationship, BUT what will happen with their family relationship IF they didn't work out? It could ruin their friendship since for each parent their child are precious and how dare he/she do it to their child?

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I get what you mean. It makes trash's excuse even less serious/acceptable. Obviously his family and her family have no issues with them getting married. Perhaps he thinks about what would happen if they were to break up. Awkward? But it shouldn't matter. Their families have been so close that their son and daughter dating and then breaking up shouldn't make a dent in their close relationship.
Anyways, i'm glad we're behind that wishy washy stuff and since oppa's stepping up his game let's hope we don't have to yell at oppa to explain. But i've realized that has alot to do with oppa as a character -- goofy/cheery on the outside, thoughtful on the inside.. reserved with his feelings.

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Ummm, I had a friend who just did this. Dated someone close to her family. It didn't work. And now the family has to deal with the fallout. It's not a fun situation, especially at holidays when your ex brings his new girlfriend and everyone expects everyone to get along peachy. My friend is thinking of avoiding her own family at holidays for awhile.

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I'm still mad at oppa. I really want Chil bong to make the home run!! He never shied away when he knew that na jung liked oppa. Chil bong needs more scenes. More!!!!!!! Lol

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I get trash oppa and all,and it is pretty clear that he is theend game. The writers clearly favor him, though it is pretty frustrating that he should have been clear in the first place instead of frustrating us. He is a great character, but on the ROMANTIC angle of the story,he has little depth. Everything has been laid out to him: the girl likes him, their parents are in a good relationship, he knows the girl too well - there's actually no deep conflict.
Chilbong on the oher hand, has little depth in his character as his screentime is just baseball or na jung which is also frustrating because in the ROMANTIC angle,he is theone who is actuallt growing, feeling his first love, doing really2 cute stupid things because of it, having his first pain.
It's just sad that the writers are just using his character to put trash and na jung closer, and will end like other stereotypical secondleads - he producing the needed conflict in the romantic part of the drama, and after not having the girl, either a martyr on the end - like leejung jae - or he gets another girl which cannot actually compensate for his poorcharacter :(

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I totally agree with you. On a personal note, I feel as if Oppa only had the courage to confront his feelings because of Chil Bong's challenge. This week focused on Na jung and Trash. Next week, I hope we see the writers develop Chil Bong's character more.

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Yes! a man who offers his hand to the girl instead of dragging her around by the hand or barking orders. Loved the Oppa-Najung scenes. I've been rewatching Answer me'97 and they feel like Yoonjae & Shiwon. The hug was so cute and i was a mirror image of Najung rocking to and fro in excitement when Oppa called.

Oppa and his brother are like two giggling schoolgirls and the combined effect of their sseuregi-ness is so much fun. The AnswerMe series has a gift for casting the perfect characters!

Everyone's acting was beyond great this episode. Dad, Oppa's lone tear, Najung's panic and that moment when all the beepers went off sent a chill down my spine.

I'm team Oppa-Najung all the way and I really hope Chilbong and the Baseball girl end up together. I can feel sparks there or at least that she likes him. Watching Answer Me's finale, they had this reel of scenes that were dropped throughout the drama of Yoonjae's brother and his future wife meetings so I think or rather hope, baseball girl will make appearances in the future.

As for Oppa's first love. I thought his rejection of her coffee date was the nail on the coffin of him being over her. He was just so blase about it and not in the lovestricken way. but in the 'i don't notice any girl besides Najung now' way

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Oppa's hyung actually really felt like a true hyung...I mean, both of their mannerisms were sooo uncannily alike and they even kinda had same facial features that for a moment I thought he might be Jung Woo's (less good-looking, lol) real hyung. Great acting from that guy.

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Great casting on their part. I can't see anyone else playing his hyung. When they were both giggling like a bunch of girls talking about trash's crush, i died.

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In this case I don't think the single episode extension can hurt it much. Mostly it seems that things go wrong when they have more than two.

I am way behind on this for some reason, looks like Drama Fever is not sending out the alerts for new episodes, so might try and catch up today.

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You should try Viki it's up already

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I have a Drama Fever and Viki sub, but I told DF to send me an email alert for new episodes, and have not been getting them, so I am about 5 episodes behind. I prefer DF because it has ROKU app that works directly with my bigger screen TV.

Was going shopping, but the crowds are a mess, so today might be a good day to catch up.

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It's way better than the heirs stuff you're annoyed with, that's for sure. ;)

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Yeah, I need to get away from obsessing with that "other show". It frustrates me to no end, but I can't stop, so I need something lighter and more fun, like this one.

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Better for us too who are entertained by it.

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Ohh......I love it that oppa stepped up to the plate. The only way that NJ can get over her crush is for them to have a relationship and then NJ realize that oppa is not the one for her. CB has a chance now cuz I feel that he could never have NJ completely if there were any lingering and unrequited emotions for oppa. CB can still be the husband we are a little over the half way mark. Still lots of episodes left to make a turn around.

Did anyone notice that oppa ' s first love wore yellow to the wedding and then NJ wore yellow on her date with oppa. Wonder if that was intentional.

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I second this! (about how Na-jung can get over Trash-oppa to be with Chilbongie)

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FINALLY!!! Oppa confesses!! Well, was it a confession or has Najung been reduced to grasping at straws like the rest of us? I'm gonna go with confession because that's the only wait to get the ball rolling around here.

I didn't know what to do with my loyalties this episode. During that disgusting car scene I was like "Well, you've touched Trash's buggers, now you have to marry him." Then when Bongie was putting cucumbers on her face I was all "But Chilbong is too cute for words, you have to marry him." Then, at the wedding when Trash's parents were fawning over her I was all "But Oppa's mom loves you, you have to marry him." Then the mall collapsed and I was like "Bongie almost died! You have to marry him!"

I was so upset with Oppa when he told his brother that he would confess to Najung after his training was over. I'm guessing it's been several weeks since he and Bongie had their Symbolic Baseball Showdown of Fate. Is this what he calls going head to head for her heart? Though, apparently Bongie's idea of going head to head is making Najung do his homework... that's equally weak, but at least doing it his way means he's obligated to take her out on dates.

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Also, that opening montage of the boys babysitting made my entire life!

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Haha. love! They can hold it over sook sookie when he's older. 'We raised you with blood sweat and tears so you BETTER do something worthy in your life'
Ah, i love this family.

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I dunno if I am upset they didn't show an actual baby but a bundle of blankets... But I guess it was not meant for the baby to steal the show literally... but I love them babysitting to Gayo Top 10... Its like setting Sooksookie up for idol-dom!

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I really hope her relationship with trash oppa is just a first love learning type of thing. Na jung is too delusional about oppa that she doesn't see Chil bong's sincerity

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What difference does it make if CB is sincere?

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the fact that she can't even like who she likes without people getting upset that she doesn't like cb back is absurd to me

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I second that, a.

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Hear hear!!

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Oppa being all shy when Najung came in all dolled up at the wedding was the cutest thing ever.

I have a bad feeling about my ship, because things are going too well for them and there's still 9 episodes left. But, I really, really hope the writers are trying to pull some double inception type shit here by having us think oppa is the bait, but really chilbongie is the bait, and oppa is the husband. Did that even make sense? This drama, I swear to god! :D

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I don't care what the writers pull as long is Oppa is the endgame. ;)

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AMEN!!! my hope is that yes, there will inevitably be a BIG storm awaiting NJ and oppa. there will prob be a time jump and they will break up over a misunderstanding or an acute relationship issue. then NJ will question her feelings for oppa and feel something for CB. THEN NJ will realize again that she can never get over oppa and have to go back to him ;) HAHAHA

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I feel it too, episode 12 is too soon for a 20/21 episode drama, something bad is going to happen.

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Girlfriday, I luff you so much. You wrote exactly what I was thinking. Aside from that, I'll just say that I am extremely grateful that Oppa was at least in time to give Na Jeong real hope that her love towards him might be requited. The last episode and the first half of this episode had me feeling so desolate that Oppa was going to somehow be too late but there's hope yet for Team Oppa-yah. Woohoo.

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I think i was more annoyed than mad at trash.
But he's such a wonderful human being and i think that's what people have been forgetting in these past few episodes where we didn't really see much of his feelings.
Everything he does for everyone around him is so selfless because he never asks for anything in return and he does it without people knowing (a good example this episode was when he made sure the nurse took care of binggeuri's sick mother).

I really loved the moment where na jung was crying and ran for chilbongie. We all knew he was going to be alive (thanks, 2013) but i still teared up.. And it was because samcheonpo, yoon jin, and haitai were all worried about their friends.. And that's what REALLY got me this episode. They've come such a long way.

My heart seriously goes out to chilbongie i wish he does end up with someone he loves. I don't think he'll have a hard time (since he's so popular with the girls too), but i'll take him if no one else does <3

Na jung, as long as you're happy, and you're with someone who loves you as much as you love him.. I'm happy. :)

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I had to rewind and stopped at the way CB looked after NJ crying and hugging him. He looked like he was about to cry myself. I'm certainly self-projecting, but I thought…that's so what a person who loves feels like. That you'd cry with the person you love, even though you don't have a reason to. You're just hurting because the other person is hurting.

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I started to tear up when everyone was calling for Na Jeong and seeing Yoon Jin cried just did me in. That was a really emotional couple minutes.

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Aww poor Chilbongi, don't worry cause since this ep is about miracles am sure there's a miracle that will make NJ love u or maybe she already does she just needs to realize it. Oppa is being so cute in this ep that its hard for not to forgive him.
TEAM CHILBONGI FIGHTING its not over yet.

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Still Team Chilbongie all the way :D
Though I have to say the other storylines and Oppa are moving my heart too, this drama is so good!

As Na Jung likes Trash oppa so much, it's nice, and kind of satisfying, to see them together...the thing is Oppa's behaviour is so confusing that sometimes it is difficult to me, to believe that he likes her. I can't feel the tension between them. With Chilbongie is different, you can feel his passion just when he looks at her...or maybe I'm just too biased XD
Btw, I don't understand quite well the way Na Jung behaves with Chilbongie after his confession, it is like nothing happened. I'd have loved to see a couple of awkward moments between them, before forgetting the confession and the kiss, no? The story would be more complete this way. Now, it feels like they cut something. If a friend confesses, it takes time to feel comfortable with him again, I think...

Well, I just want all of them to be happy, especially sweet Chilbong, haha!!

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Yeah I think the problem is that it the show jumped ahead a few months so we never got to see the fallout from the confession. I thought they might address it with teh awkwardness of Bongie now officially living there but they gave this episode to Oppa.

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Awww...I hope you're right and we can see something next episode.
It would be exciting to see some tension between Chilbongie and Na Jung (*w*) ...This way we can imagine that she maybe feels something and Chilbong has a chance in the future :D

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I've had confessions of guys liking me. I'm the type who didn't know how to handle it. So, I just went on being friends with them like nothing's happened.

Even if that guy were so cute, if I didn't like him, I just don't and whatever he did to show his feelings, I didn't feel anything because I couldn't.

Love/like is something that can't be forced.. if it happens.. it happens..

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I agree. Although I know that Chilbong asked Na Jeong not to say anything butbutbut the most she could do if she really was in love with oppa was to reject him properly. Well it's easy to say, but since they've developed a friendship, I'm pretty sure Na Jeong is also scared of losing that but come on, doesn't she feel anything when Chilbong keeps trying to find ways to hang out with her. At least, she should be aware that he has ulterior motives and that she should just shut him down. After all time and time again, we've seen how Na Jeong is so open with her feelings, she likes what she likes and she doesn't take any crap from anybody. I just hope that she properly rejects him if the case is that she doesn't like him at all. I'm saying this of course as a Chilbongie shipper, as I do not want to see him hurt anymore. >_< [Yoo Yeon Seok, my gosh, can you channel CB's hurt and frustration!]

Don't get me wrong though I like the Na Jeong character and well, we really cannot blame her, she is who she is. But I think to leave Chilbong hanging is a bit out of step of her character.

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And I just had to add that even being a CB shipper, since we're starting to see a bit of reciprocation of the love between Na Jeong and Oppa-garbage, CB's actions are starting to look creepy to me [of course we can't blame him he doesn't know about the progress between Na Jeong and Oppa-garbage] but as I've said, since we are starting to see hints of reciprocation, the show is being unfair to Chilbong by showing him hanging around NJ all the time.

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Thank you gf for the great recap.

Love,love Oppa. so cute!!

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I'm so in love with this show it's not even funny. I fell in love with Oppa - Jung woo is such a good actor. When he lost that patient and cried that single tear, it felt like he was so lost in that moment and it was heartbreakingly beautiful.
And the concern the friends showed for the others got me, I cried buckets of tears, seeing this. Najungies reaction that Chilbongie was alive & healthy and blissfully unaware what had happened at that shopping mall, they were supposed to meet, cause Najung wanted to see this new mall and eat there, was wonderful played.
Can't wait for the next episodes.

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Jung Woo!! Take a bow man. Yoou are freaking fantastic. The scene where he sees the watch guy die and sheds a single tear gave me goosebumps.. The very next scene you had me squealing with your adorable blushing.. This guy is completely smitten...

I loved everyone's concern for one another this episode. I had a lump in my throat he whole time. Appa scene made me break down completely.. Actor who plays Appa is amazing..

I wish they give CB some other story line besides fawning over Na Jung. CB has done nothing to impress me so far his character is just Meh compared to Trash Oppa. Inspite of Oppa being frustrating and vague i could not root for Cb. I found out why today. Like seriously the guy had like 5 minutes screen time and its only with Na Jung in each episode. Does he not have any other priorities in life. There is Baseball but still. If you want me to consider this a fair game them make him a fair contender. Yeah he wears his heart in his sleeve.

Even Na jung with her unwavering(yet) love for Oppa seems to have sweet moments with everyone.

YJ and SCP continues to be the couple that manages to keep everyone entertained even after knowing that they are end game. Just do the same for the lead couple. It is frustrating in one episode after another even though i am invested in the mystery I just think that the writers comprise the characters sometimes for the mystery effect.

The stuffed toys continue to tell us the episode progress. I dont know how many people notice.

Did i mention i love Jung Woo....

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I just posted the same.
Both about the hospital scene and about CB.

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I would love it if chilbongie is given more screen time and given more material other than his love for na jung and baseball.
He's such a great character -- and he's a fighter, no less. If the writer doesn't make him end game i hope she gives him his own story where he'll end up with a nice girl.
That's the only way she'll make it up to chilbongie shippers (if she chooses trash as endgame). To leave it at that.. would be such a shame. But it gives me hope because in the 2013 timeline they're all getting along pretty well and most of all look HAPPY. so that's the image i stick in my head to weather all storms.

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I agree. Even if I'm on Team Oppa I WANT/NEED/MUST HAVE more Chilbong time. He's obviously a caring, lovable guy who is devoted to his girl, but we don't get to see ANYTHING. He gets 5 minutes of air time, half is devoted to baseball. Come on, if he's a male lead give him lines, situations, things that we can swoon over. I'm not fawning over Chilbong because I haven't seen enough of him. I saw glimpses in 7-8 of his awesomeness and I wavered on Oppa, but what happened after that? I want more of a fight.

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There was this earlier episode of his mom's wedding and his phone message scene... and then Samcheonpo gisaeng halmoni scene with him... so Chilbong does have material which he ace it... not that he does have his moment...

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*not that he does NOT have his moment… he does...
just to add on, its how the story is flesh out, it makes his role seems to only be 2 things in life - Najung & baseball... but we see a little more now... boy is not exactly great in schoolwork... so there is development to his role.

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Well said! Oppa is so much more well-rounded/more fleshed out as a character that he seems all that more fantastic and compelling compared to Chilbongie. Chilbongie's cute and I do enjoy his sweet crush on Na Jung but Oppa is just on a whole other level. He's depicted as a very loving and dependable son to NJ's parents, a protective hyung to Binguerre, a fun guy to his friends, and a respectable doctor-to-be to his patients and colleagues. I know it's not Chilbongie's fault per se, but he's rather flat as a character. He's mostly centered around NJ...which only leads me to the conclusion that he's just the extra thorn in the Opaa-NJ ship, lol.

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Wow, I can't believe what I'm reading. Chilbong..not impressing...not a fair contender..?? Have you guys not watched this show carefully? This is the only episode where Oppa finally picked up his game. The rest of the episodes, Chilbong was winning by margins in both NJ and her parents. Chilbong has shown to be just as good a son to NJ's parents as Oppa. Example 1) Oppa gave NJ's mom tacky makeup ep 6. Chilbong gave NJ's mom a Chanel No. 5 & gave NJ's dad fancy liquor. 2) Oppa is lazy & messy. The man can't even make his own rice. Chilbong helps wash the dishes a lot. 3) Both of them respect and love NJ's parents. Do you not see the love CB shoots at NJ's dad and mom. Did you forget the moment when CB called NJ's mom "mom" in their accent?

I could also write an essay on why CB is a better husband for NJ but that would be another story. I love Oppa a lot and I honestly believe he can continue being awesome and fine without being in a romantic relationship with NJ. I don't ship them because I view them as brothers and sisters. And after this episode, I can say the same. I'll cringe if they ever kiss and even the hand holding this episode made me cringe a little. Oppa should just stay Oppa.. Not NJ's husband. And just because Oppa is a more fleshed out character, that doesn't deduct CB from being a worst contender for NJ's heart. When it comes to NJ's CB is the better fleshed out character to be her husband imo. The only thing that is going to make me accept that Oppa is better for NJ is because she loves him and that's her choice. But with everything that has been shown, CB is an epic contender. If NJ didn't already have feelings for Oppa, I'm sure Oppa would have been doomed.

After this episode, I'm still not awestruck with Oppa. The only part where Oppa won brownie points from me was when he showed up for the musical at the end. Everything else? Oppa stayed the same. He still hasn't officially confessed. NJ still has no idea of his feelings. I didn't like how Oppa: 1) Didn't even notice NJ in his home as if she is so unnoticeable. 2) Continues to pinch her cheeks and pat her head. That is not romantic at all. Again, this is why I can only view them in a brother-sister light. My brother does that all the time and it drives me insane. 3) Asks NJ if she's on her period. Seriously? It's not attractive to say that to a women. 4) Ignore's NJ's request to not dip his food in her ddukboki. 5) When he disregard NJ and said nothing when his hyung told her to sit somewhere else. Ugh.

My point is, Oppa is like a brother. Every episode proves that. He's not romantic at all. That is my main challenge to shipping him with NJ. I love Oppa's character but I can never root for him as the husband for NJ.

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i completely understand why some ppl see trash's treatment of NJ (pinch cheeking etc.) not as romantic. i agree that it is not romantic in that typical movie-like, picture-perfect way. couples arent necessarily always cut out to be "romantic".NJ and oppas relationship is so much more than the stereotypical romance. yes, CB is more of a TYPICAL gentleman - the one who opens doors and takes girls out to fancy dinners perhaps. but trash and NJ relationship transcends that - they were always there for each other since they were young. they understand each other without even saying a word. they share a painful memory of losing a brother/bf and the mere presence of each other is comforting.

i dont understand how ppl can not see the chemistry between NJ and oppa. did u not see the nervous excitement that they both exuded at the end of the episode before their date? do u not sense the new tension that has settled between them (i.e. when NJ brushes his cheek. going on the musical date. hugging) ? i think ppl dont think its possible to have a romance with the backdrop of being super close friends as well. there is a phrase "part time lovers, full time friends".

the romance has to be there, but it doesnt have to consume the entire relationship.

in addition, all the things u note about CB being a good son to NJs parents are so artificial as in oh he bought them better presents. oh he does the dishes more. but at the end of the day, trash to them is like the son they never had. their relationship runs deep.

and even thought i am a trashxNJ shipper i do no deny CBs chemistry with NJ. i think they have a reall adorable chemistry together that really lights up the screen. :) however, i dont think its more than a puppy love.

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They have a brother sister vibe to me even when NJ brushed Oppa's cheek and during their hug. The things I noted doesn't show that Chilbong is artificial. It shows that CB is considerate and helpful. How is washing the dishes artificial? I'm starting to question if you understand the term.. Chilbong also acts like the son they never had even though he knows nothing about the son they lost. He treats them with love and respect. You can view that as artificial all you want, but I don't agree. After this episode I'm still questioning why oppa had to take so long to realize his feelings. I really don't. Everything in this episode contradicted his fears. I seriously rather ship Haitai with NJ then with oppa.

On another note which has nothing to do with the above post, I just wnted to comment that some oppa fans are being just as annoying as some chilbong fans. Oppa fans made it seem as if only chilbong fans were annoying but the oppa fans who claim chilbong is creepy are seriously making me upset.

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@Kate- am just SO over Garbage. He's a great guy and doctor-in-training but is he a great romantic partner to NJ? Despite being 4 yrs older than the others his continuous erroneous ways where NJ is concerned bother, frustrate, & anger me.

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"On another note which has nothing to do with the above post, I just wnted to comment that some oppa fans are being just as annoying as some chilbong fans. Oppa fans made it seem as if only chilbong fans were annoying but the oppa fans who claim chilbong is creepy are seriously making me upset."

Kate, you're starting an unnecessary fan war with that statement. Just let it go.
I understand the statement that chilbong is creepy is upsetting since i love his character, but there are ways of defending him(as i tried below) without sounding butt hurt. A comment about chilbongie not in your favor does not mean that they're necessarily a trash shipper and vice versa. Why does someone have to be a trash shipper if they don't necessarily understand chilbongie, and why does someone have to be a chilbongie shipper if they don't understand trash?
I'd be ignorant to say that isn't 100% the case, but i'd probably focus more on the good stuff that doesn't revolve around trash and na jung in these next few episodes if i were you.

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I'm basing this because the comments I read even clearly implied they were oppa fans. I never said oppa shippers, I said oppa FANS. And saying how I sound butt hurt shows that you are clearly trying to provoke me. Your comment doesn't make the situation better. I have directly defended CB with evidence explaining how he isn't creepy in old posts from other episodes. That didn't stop the comments as it is doubling. So why is it ok for other people (mainly oppa fans) to say that some CB fans are annoying and not okay for me to state how some oppa fans aren't innocent of being respectful to CB fans? You are saying that I'm starting a fan war when other people are the ones that started this. Aren't they the ones that started this? You clearly know that some oppa fans keep calling some cb fans annoying but when I call SOME oppa fans annoying for the first time, suddenly it's just me that is starting the war?? Whatever. I guess there's no freedom of speech in dramabeans anymore without someone bashing me when I've been nothing but reasoning. I tried to stay calm but some comments don't stop and I have to call upon them. The irony..

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@kate

You need to take a chill pill.

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How about you need to mind your own business?

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man some people get so invested in a ship that they get overly defensive with every little thing.
no one's bashing you kate, you're just being sensitive to what people say and over-thinking things.

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@ ilikemangos you shouldn't call Kate butt hurt. Obviously she would reply back upset.
@ Josh you shouldn't really tell Kate to take a chill pill. It's not going to calm her. You know you're making the situation worst?
@ kate I see your point but tone it down a bit gurll. I see how everything is making you upset and how other people's comments aren't helping but just ignore them.

Can you all just end this discussion that's becoming ugly?

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I think everyone is failing to see that I'm not getting defensive about anything other than the fact that people are calling CB creepy/disgusting. And I bet everyone is reading my comment in a argumentative and over-emotional way, but I honestly wasn't bewildered and butt hurt as everyone seems to read my post. That could be my fault for not wording my words better. Besides, I ship NJ-CB, but I'm not obsessed with the idea of them ending up together. I even stated that I'm fine with T-NJ endgame but would never root for them. I wouldn't cry or be upset if CB lost. About me being sensitive, I am. Maybe, it's because I was waiting in line yesterday for black friday shopping, and the last ticket that belonged to me was given to the person behind me. Maybe, that's why I'm more upset at people and perhaps, being more on the fence than usual. But as mintychips commented, I really didn't need the unnecessary replies I was given. My comment was as harmless as everyone else's until I was described as creating unnecessary fan war, when as proven, no fan war has started and how I was told I should have defended CB from being called creeping when I already did before but ilikemangos just assume I was being butt hurt and saying nonsense. I'm willing to end this once and for all. I'll just stop commenting to you people here because no one understands my point.

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@ Kate:

If it helps, I wasn't reading your comment as being argumentative or over-emotional. I think you put out good points but I just happen to be one of the people who see chemistry between NJ and Oppa and ship them, hehe. So while I may not agree, I do feel bad that your comments were responded to a bit harshly. And I certainly hope it doesn't keep you from discussion even with us that are Team Oppa.

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Amen sistahhhh!!~~

This week's episodes have been very hard on us Chilbongie-NJ shippers. I had loads to write but my heart hasn't recovered proper from the whiplash of the writer giving us that poignant hug followed by NJ spazzing while talking over the phone w/ garbage. I only ask the writer to let us down gently... that whiplash effect upset me immensely.

I HOPE the writers develop CB further so that there's more to him than just liking NJ. More CB scenes will also be much appreciated. The one thing that got to me about the hug was seeing CB being floored that NJ cared even a teensy bit about him. He's always so in sync to NJ's feels - he didn't shrug off her concern or make a joke out of it. Where NJ is concerned he pays 100% attention. He's this perfect guy who comes from a broken home, has yet to develop stronger bonds w/ the housemates (when Grae gave him the cut direct in the epi when he drops out from med school really bothered me) but has a positive outlook on situations and is trying so hard to continue pursuing the girl he likes. It just breaks my heart on his imminent heartbreak. The only okayish thing abt (the ending) this episode was that CB doesn't know that NJ-GB are dating. Quite a bleak silver lining, if it is one.

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Agree agree agree... Can't agree more. If CB and NJ doesn't end up together, then the least the writers could do is to develop him and not put him on the sidelines. He did say he will fight for his love after all. I'm actually a bit upset, that the writers went to the relationship route so early on, because how can CB fight for his love when there is already a coupling on the horizon. Once there is a clear signal of reciprocation, I won't blame viewers if they perceived CB's actions as creepy. I won't blame them but I would know that such a thing would be unfair given what we know about CB being this sweet guy who doesn't want to give up on his love.

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Man it got hot in here.. I am sorry if i offended anyone with my CB is a not a fair contender point. The fact is he does not seem like a fair contender from my point of view as he does not seem to have character depth his only interactions are with Na Jung or about Baseball. It does not make him bad i just dont see the depth i see in Oppa. I mean that guy has practically had scenes with everyone and come out shining in everyone of them. His scenes with his bro were amazing and makes you fall more for his character than ever. There are no scenes like this for CB is my point.

That said i do agree that Oppa is not perfect in fact he is far from it. I am disappointed constantly at how he treats Na Jung. The wedding dinner scene with his ex is an example. Still i feel like I know him like really understand him, even if he makes me frustrated i can understand where he is coming from. I dont feel that with CB. I honestly like CB he seems like a nice guy but thats it I dont feel I know him even barely except for his love for Na Jung. He is sweet to everyone and loves Baseball and Na Jung. The only scene he had moments to shine was at phone booth with his mom but that seems a while ago. Of course this is all coming from a place of absolute Jung Woo bias so can silly.

There are 8 LONG episodes to go. The writers can make everyone fall so in love with CB and wish for nothing more than CB and Na Jung to get together. Anything can happen so peace.

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@ Kate:

I'm not trying to say that Chilbongie is not impressive nor a fair contender. Actually, he is both of these. I'm just saying that in my view, Oppa is a level above him in being this three dimensional character. He just seems to be written as more integrative whereas the focus of Chilbongie is more centered around NJ. Not that it's a bad thing. I just feel that if the writer is building up Oppa's character so much and settling Chilbongie into this one-note track, then it must mean the Oppa ship is sailing.

As for you thinking that CB makes a better husband and that Oppa feels more like just an oppa, well, that's just your opinion. I respect it and to some extent, understand it. You are free to think that just as I am free to be a biased Jung Woo fan, to love Oppa-yah, and to firmly root for Team Oppa. We can just agree to disagree on who should be the endgame.

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Thanks DayDreamer. That was more of the comment I was expecting. Again, thanks for being polite and a bit understanding. I feel a little better ;) like I really didn't need the comments above. They didn't have a purpose other than to provoke me but your comment was objective and had a purpose.

I also respect oppa shippers a lot and I also like oppa's character so it's not like I'm a crazy CB fan. Everything I said above was to show how he was impressive to me and NJ's parents because I misunderstood your comment and thought you guys were not seeing the CB I'm seeing. I see that is not the case and that you guys were just stating that oppa is more three dimensional. That is where I will say I agree :)

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Don't worry about it, Kate. Even if you misunderstood, it was fine because I also get where you're coming from in that Oppa still seems brotherly. In response to that one point, I somewhat agree but I also agree with Kim Yoonmi's comment above that Oppa is still trying to change from oppa to a romantic partner which will take a lot of work and time. And yeah, some of the comments were uncalled for. But I'm glad you feel better now. Don't take it to heart….sometimes we can get very impassioned and misunderstand. It happens to me too….I'll be so biased over a character/actor and when someone criticizes him/her, I'll be riled up. But then I wait at least twenty minutes before replying why I disagree or not even reply at all (because they actually made a lot of sense once I cleared my head) because I want to be objective and not make a fool out of myself, lol.

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Although I love Trash.. I'm not sure I can get behind the 360 of the character... This should have been shown a little earlier in the game. At this point I believe that Na-Jung is going to have a hard time deciding where her true affections lie.. And we cant forget how Haitai plays into all of this, for we know he too has stakes in the game.. Those looks he gives Na-Jung and how he worries about her... It will be interesting to see where the writers take the story line... But I'm still 100% TEAM CHILBONGIE, he is way too cute to be just wasted in the story, and although I love Oppa I don't know if the fact that he and Na-Jung know each other that well will hinder any type of relationship they might have.

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It's not a 360(isn't it 180? 360 would end up in same spot)-- everything trash has done in this episode reflects who his character has always been. Silently caring for others, loving to all others. Goofy on the outside, while musing on the inside.

What is 180 about him this episode is his motivation to finally make it WORK with na jung. Finally. That took 12 episodes (better later than never. or for some, better sooner than later).. But he's always sucked whenever it came to love and dating, and we knew this because of all his past relationships that never made it past 3 months.

I like this new development in his character, because maybe trash isn't so trash-like(aside from his messy living habits). He realizes he does like na jung more than a sister, and he's ready to finally take the relationship up another level.
That, to me.. is development. Not a personality transport. (refer to Heir's young do. that's the very definition of a personality transport)

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Well since no one is talking about a personality transport her... Or Heirs... I think you might be off..

My personal opinion is that it's too late in the game for this to happen, he should have started SHOWING he cared a little while ago. I'm not saying the character does not have to be true to himself (not that I never said he had to be someone else, he just needed to be more proactive sooner)... The point of the post was not to say that Trash needs to go back or anything it's to exploit the failures of the revelation at this point... Especially when we talk about hoe relationships work and how they move forward.

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Yes, Oppa should have started showing he cared long ago. But that's Oppa. He's not that great at serious relationships with girls. He's had quite a few girlfriends. None long lasting. He doesn't seem to know how to appreciate his GF well, as shown in ep 3, where the kids went on an MT. Oppa's GF had dumped him, with one of the reasons not noticing stuffs about her. I think that's just one of the things he had lacked in his relationship with that girl.
Oppa knows this.

Then, there's Na Jung whom I believed knew she likes him since she had confessed to him on 1st April. He honestly didn't know how to react. He does like her. She's pretty, funny, fun to be with and being totally herself most of the time etc.. but maybe because:
a) all this while she had treated him like an older brother.
b) her family doesn't even see him as a prospect of marriage.
c) none of his relationships had been successful, so it might happen to her and Oppa hence will make his relationship with her family worse of which he dreads.

CB telling him that he likes NJ had stirred that feeling that's been nudging him that he had try to suppress for quite a while as he doesn't want his relationship with NJ and her family that he loves change due to him. Oppa's a thinker. He has thought about the repercussions. CB's confession had him decided. To just 'eff' it and go for it, to try it with NJ.

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Totally agree. Oppa is adorable as character, but I wouldn't want a boyfriend like him. He ignores NJ too many times, and her feelings, knowing that she is having a hard time...which guy that really likes a girl would be so passive?? When you like a lot a person you don't wait till you finish your internship to go for him/her, even more when you know there are rivals that want to steal that person from you. Maybe it's that the writers are failing here, but I don't see Oppa very interested...so I can't root for him.
Chilbongie won my heart with his sweetness and thoughtfulness to Na Jung, and it seems Oppa is not going to make me change ships.

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I cried so much when I saw the dad with the watch lying lifelessly, and Oppa just recently was so friendly and kind to his family. It was heartbreaking. The same is with the Dad and his friends. I really like that this series focuses on so much more than romantic love. That we see all the different kind of bonds as well.

In a way maybe that is why out of all the characters CB feels out of place, like he belongs to a different genre. All his story is reduced to be about NJ, even baseball doesn't seem like truly important to him anymore (it is more about making him cool, I mean storywise, we don't hear about his ambitions etc...), it is like all his character was reduced to liking NJ.
I will be really disappointed (wether he ends up with her or doesn't) if that is all his characters remains. I want to see him having deep bonding non romantic moments with other characters, kinda like he had with NJ's parents at the beginning. HT had it with SCP, or NJ (though he now have some romantic feelings toward her), Oppa, about his mom etc. SCP also had those moments, so did Yoon Jin etc..., Bg has his doubts about his future and his relationship with his brother...
I find CB extremly cute, and the actor really good (is it only me? He reminds me of Gwang Soo from Running Man), and it is such a shame that his character is all about NJ, no wonder his fans feel like if he doesn't end up with NJ it is over, since he indeed doesn't have another story to tell. He could really use a good bromance storyline (like HT and SCP, or Oppa and BG (though it is obvious that BG loves Oppa)). Though it is obvious he is too good friends with the gang but somehow in scenes he is lacjing bonding moments :(

And I think at the last scene when Oppa didn't bring his car and said we can walk, is kinda a metaphore of their relationship (and definietly of his own slowness), but I really liked this lets just take it slow feeling. I think it compeletly fits with the series and the slice of life genre.
While some people say it might be a sign that they won't last since they already got together, I disagree. While I don't think it means that they will definietly endgame either, but people should renember it is not a melodrama, not a romcom. It's so much more than just a ove triangle or who the husband is.
So lets walk, and enjoy that slow place.
There is a poem (I can't translate it is hard to do so prettily), that is about how people who go on cars only concentrating at the destination, don't notice that small flower, etc at the side of the road, that people who walk do. So lets enjoy the ride, because as long as it is good the destination will be satisfyng no matter what.

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beautiful comment! :)

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I have this feeling that if it was not YYS playing him with so much passion, his character is basically non existent. He is just there so Oppa can realize his feelings and after that, not much screen time. We know he has gotten closer to everyone and Appa loves him. But we haven't seen his moments with boarders or his storyline besides baseball (again, NJ-centric completely). Even his bromance with BG is on the minimum.

He was introduced as an outsider and somewhat kept like that in the drama.. I thought he was going to be besties with country bumpkins. I know he did, but I would've liked to see it.

I feel the writers didn't put much effort in him.. unless of course they kick into gear in the last 8 episodes.

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Brilliant comment ghanima! I agree.. looking at Oppa and how's his relationships in the past, he sees him and NJ as a serious one... hence this time.. he's taking it slow.

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I'm probably the only one, but Chilbongie is hella creepy. Maybe I've taken one too many social justice-type class, but his initial attraction to Na-Jung seems predicated on exoticism and fetishization of her cultural background and if you replaced him with an unattractive (based on beauty norms, etc.) actor his actions would seem more clingy/weird than swoon-worthy.

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Er.
Chilbongie is great.
I think perhaps taken the class has made you a bit suspicious, but it's just a show.. And i don't think the writer intends to portray any underlying fetishization.
Some of what you say is true in a general sense, but i don't think it can be accurately applied to their situation.

If anything, trash is the one that comes off as almost a creep -- and i love trash. I wouldn't want anyone making finger daggers at my eyes or a neck scratch while calling out to me like im a dog (all of things which i personally find goofy and cute. to others, maybe not so much)

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Trash is a creep. But it doesn't feel creepy to me because of the de facto sibling/childhood friend super tight nature of their relationship.

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Haha, I don't find Oppa creepy at all. Weird, yes, cringey, yes, but that's just his character. If we replaced him with someone else, they wouldn't be able to pull of Jung Woo's take on Oppa lol.

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Yes. Jung woo's take on oppa is what keeps it from veering into creepy territory. He's such an amazing actor who slips into his characters seamlessly and naturally.
I cannot imagine anyone else taking on the role of trash after this.

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what part of his attraction to her is based on exoticism and fetishization? i'm genuinely curious. the way i read the situation was that he was hanging out at his cousin's hasukjib and became interested in the owner's pretty daughter. are you thinking of it in a certain way because he thought some of the things she did were cute? exoticism and fetishization are seriously problematic, but thinking that an individual's quirks and habits are cute is not the same thing at alll. i'm really curious to hear your thoughts on this :)

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I was under the impression that his initial intrigue stemmed from cultural differences rather than character-specific traits, like adding "is that right?" to the end of sentences, that whole exchange on phrasing and such where he made some comment about her being really interesting. It's not a huge thing, but it certainly makes me think twice.

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to say that it stems purely from cultural differences would be to say that it isn't na-jung that he likes, but any girl from the countryside. he didn't show any such inclination towards yoon-jin, which suggests that he likes na-jung and verious things about her. further, he has made comments on his like/interest for everyone's mannerisms, such as their practice of calling their friend's parents "mom" and "dad." so idk, to me, he likes na-jung specifically. one who exoticizes/fetishicizes romantic interests would see all girls of a certain background as interchangeable, because that person would be interested in their background before being interested in them as a person. since chilbong hasn't shown inclination for other girls from the country (na-jung being his first love and all), i read the situation as him being interested in her as a person first and foremost. idk, that's just how i read it from the beginning.

this, of course, is my own interpretation. it might irritate some viewers how he pays so much attention to her (i've seen some use words like "suffocating" and "clingy") but that's a completely different problem, which more likely stems from the fact that na-jung seems to be his first major crush (since he's stated that before meeting her, his whole life was all baseball all the time). the first time i had a major crush on a guy i was a mess. like seriously cringe-worthy. i'd get all nervous talking to him and stare at him throughout entire classes (God, I'm legit cringing just writing this haha)... which is kinda similar to how Chilbong is, but I think thats just how first crushes are... (or at least i hope so, so that i can keep telling myself that i'm not just some big freak lol).

i think it's great to use the knowledge you're getting from your class (i think it's really important for more people to be aware of problematic behaviors like exoticism and fetishization and objectification and appropriation etc, especially when they're interested in cultures that aren't their own, or even when they're learning about their own cultures) but be sure to be careful of using terms too liberally. even if a character has a false/idealized image of a specific other person that they're romantically interested in, it isn't automatically exoticism, you know? like, there's a difference between saying "I like girls from Masan" and "I like this girl from Masan." one is problematic because it lumps a large group of people into one category and assumes they're all the same, whereas the other is about one specific person. eeeek i just noticed how much i've written;;; sorry~ i like having these kinds of discussions, and wish i saw them pop up more in these threads. this, to me, is much more interesting than just talking about who ships who (though those discussions can be fun, too, haha)

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I get there's a big difference between something like yellow fever and being attracted to an Asian person as an individual. He isn't some countryophile, but there's something about the way that he immerses himself in this country family and revels in the foreignness of it that makes me a little uncomfortable. I also don't think Na-Jung is interchangeable right now, but supposing he was a real person and so on and so forth, I don't think it's that much of a leap to think that he'd fall for a different pretty Masan girl (who is not drastically aloof like Yoon-Jin).

First love/big crushes make people do creepy things. Like the photo in the hat thing was simultaneously sweet and uncomfortable. What's really interesting to me about Chilbongie's case is thinking about how reactions would change if he were played by a different actor. What if Samcheonpo was the one pining for Na-Jung, what if it was Yoon-Jin? How would these actions be interpreted differently if at all? This is all tangental but whatever :).

On another tangent, I've graduated, but I'm still a far left ethnic studies student at heart. My first instinct (as sick as that may be) is to break down what I consume.

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