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Mi-rae’s Choice: Episode 10

These two are just adorable together, aren’t they? Just when I was about to chuck some darts at my frustration board, the show reels me back in with earnest feelings. We finally get a peek into Ajumma Mi-rae’s life, which of course, adds more questions than it solves. Then the reminder to follow your heart solidifies why I love our heroine in the first place with yes, a long overdue haircut.

The ratings report: Mi-rae’s Choice is still pulling in single-digit ratings with a 5.9% and a 5.4% this week.

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EPISODE 10 RECAP

Shin is shocked to see Mi-rae dine at the same table as Chairman Lee and whom he now knows to be her grandson, Se-joo, who returns a tiny smirk.

He’s still trying to piece it all together when Se-joo calls to confirm his family lineage and apologize for keeping him in the dark. Shin asks if Mi-rae knows this truth as well, to which Se-joo smiles, amused to hear Shin suddenly speak to him in jondaemal. He asks that Shin keep it under wraps for now.

Shin tears into Ajumma Mi-rae afterward—is his future demise due to being fired by Se-joo and therefore blacklisted from the industry? He accuses her of working with Se-joo to orchestrate this scenario tonight, saying she could have just told him, but why did she let him be humiliated like this?

“Would you have believed me if I told you?” Ajumma retorts. She cries that Shin always took her for a crazy lady and that she didn’t want to have to go this far, but Shin has no sympathy for her tears as a victim of circumstance.

He asks point-blank what he did wrong to her in particular and what else he doesn’t know about.

Meanwhile the dinner continues inside as Chairman Lee makes small talk, casually tossing in that someone of her age might want to marry into a rich family where money gives her a freedom to do whatever she likes.

But that isn’t what Mi-rae wants, and she surprises the Chairman Lee by asking if she is content with her life, adding politely that becoming rich doesn’t seem like the chairman’s original dream and not every girl dreams of being wealthy. And that’s why we love you, Mi-rae.

Shin keeps pinning the blame on Ajumma until she tells him that there are many things that Shin doesn’t remember. He of course has no idea what those are, but thankfully a series of flashbacks enlightens us: Shin rebuffing Mi-rae’s attempts to cheer him up; Mi-rae coming home to see Shin sitting on the couch.

The last one in particular provides a bit more insight: A sound of a car crash, Shin running towards it, and Mi-rae falling to the ground in shock. Whoa. All I can safely gather from that is that neither Shin nor Mi-rae were injured in the aforementioned car accident.

Ajumma Mi-rae blinks back tears at the memories as Shin sighs, saying that there must be something Ajumma hopes to gain through all this. She’ll soon be met with the consequences for her actions, and Shin begs her to leave him alone.

But Ajumma calls out to him before he leaves, asking what he plans to do now. She urges him to keep his head down this time because he won’t be able to win this fight against Se-joo. He tells her that he’ll decide whether to back down or not for himself.

Seeing their friendly rapport together, Chairman Lee takes the opportunity to gauge Mi-rae’s interest in Se-joo. She casts a suspicious eye at her grandson when Mi-rae says they’re just friends.

So she asks if Mi-rae likes someone else, but Mi-rae hem and haws at the question before changing the subject. But that’s enough reason for Grandma Lee to give her grandson what-for afterwards, lecturing him for liking someone who clearly has feelings for someone else.

But she’s caught off guard when Se-joo asks her what her childhood dream was, and she barks back that she did want to become rich, so what? Ha, their bickering relationship is hilarious and adorable.

Yoo-kyung is still reading the diary when she hears footsteps approaching. She tears out a page and stuff it into her pocket before getting caught red-handed by Ajumma Mi-rae with the diary in hand.

She’s oddly confident about the details written inside and notes that the supposedly new diary looks rather worn. After reading its contents, it almost feels like her future spouse is being taken away from her, Yoo-kyung adds.

Ajumma insists that it’s just a work of fiction, but Yoo-kyung says they’ll find out soon enough.

Mi-rae cheerily tells her brother about her dinner with Se-joo and his patron Chairman Lee, but gets caught in the lie that she was told to stay on the team because she was doing such a great job. Heh, it was worth a shot.

She promises to work hard and build her experience to become a writer her brother is proud of. But Oppa asks what specific area she plans to pursue: variety, documentary, current events, or something else? She doesn’t have an answer to that, and Oppa sighs.

So Mi-rae spends the evening pondering that very question. She was so sure that she wanted to work in variety, but covering the subway incident had changed all of that, and now she doesn’t know.

Yoo-kyung finds herself alone in the office at work, so she takes the opportunity to search Mi-rae’s desk where lo and behold, Mi-rae’s diary lies, looking new.

She flips through the pages and immediately notes the discrepancies between the two diaries, like how Mi-rae narrowly escaped a car accident on the same day as hers… with Shin.

The following entries only further her confusion, so she sends a photo to a professor to compare the handwriting between the two entries along with how old the torn paper is. Ooh, that’s smart thinking.

As for Mi-rae, she’s busy researching new topics for their show Pandora’s Box, and comes across a headline about the sale and production of fake liquor.

Her informant points to a nightclub in an affluent neighborhood, and she sets off to acquire spy gear and phone and presents herself to work at said bar (which looks likes it’s run by the mafia) in her disguise, complete with a country accent. Oy, I’m not getting a good feeling about this.

She pitches the idea during their team meeting, volunteering to document the scandal via hidden camera. Then she pulls off her cap to reveal her new short haircut, to everyone’s surprise. Oh thank goodness, the new look is super cute.

The hot issue is a good pitch, but both Oppa and Se-joo worry for her safety—what if she gets caught? Oppa drags his sister outside to give her a talking-to, asking if she’s figured out what writer she wants to be and how she’ll achieve the show’s aim to instill hope through the feature.

It’s actually pretty funny how Jokey PD shakes in fear to learn that the two are siblings, but Shin needs only two seconds to hear about Mi-rae’s involvement before turning on his heel.

Mi-rae’s tendency to act before she thinks is the issue here, Oppa tells her. Being ambitious is a good thing, but she needs a plan. That’s when Se-joo joins in to suggest that they also showcase respectable establishments, and he’ll work there too to keep an eye out on her.

Oppa is still reluctant, but he warms to the idea once he hears about Se-joo’s totally awesome fighting skills in taekwondo, kendo, and the like. He swings an arm around Se-joo, impressed, a sight that Shin sees at a distance, having arrived just a tad too late.

It’s a good thing that Mi-rae has Se-joo to help her, because he asks whether she knows how to properly film with a hidden camera and she has no idea. They practice somewhere nearby, but Mi-rae’s attempt comes out too shaky to edit properly, so Se-joo teaches her how.

She sends off Se-joo with a smile at her house later, and then lingers outside, wondering why she hasn’t heard a peep from Shin. Then the camera turns to reveal Shin sitting in his car parked nearby. Eep!

The camera continuously pans over their one-sided conversation with each other, as Mi-rae curses Shin while Shin sighs that at least Se-joo is there to look after her. Aw.

Chairman Lee seeks Ajumma Mi-rae out for more information, and when Ajumma asks if she can stop working for her now, she replies that her work has just begun. She offers to set up a space where Ajumma can comfortably “dream” to find out who Mi-rae likes and more about the future of the company. HA.

But Ajumma says she can’t readily see into the future and is busy enough as it is, but the chairman dangles the threatening carrot in her eyes that if she doesn’t, she’ll be responsible for her own expensive medical treatment.

It makes me wonder if it’s really an effective tactic if we assume that Ajumma Mi-rae could return to the future and technically not be responsible for the sum. But it works, and Ajumma leaves with a heavy heart. As she drives off, Yoo-kyung gapes in awe, wondering how Ajumma knows the chairman and follows.

Ajumma asks the driver to drop her off by the street, and literally takes a walk down memory lane as her happy memories with Shin come alive before her (and our) eyes. She follows her imagined manifestations to a bar they once frequented, listening to classical music. It’s both wonderful and sad at how adorable they look together.

Tears well up in Ajumma’s eyes as she sits alone, thinking back to Shin and Mi-rae’s words. She buries her face in her arms… as the Black Man look on by the doorway, pouting. Aww, do you feel sorry for your target?

Yoo-kyung comes walking down the stairs just then, wondering who this random ajusshi is. Hilariously, she pokes him to ask and the Black Man freaks out and runs. Puhahaha.

She chases him down the streets as the Black Man runs to avoid confrontation. I especially love how he throws leaves at her, telling her to stay away. Hee.

He eventually loses her in a restaurant and puts in a frantic call to his boss, whining that the people in “this generation” are too scary. Aww, there, there.

Yoo-kyung overhears the last bit of the conversation, but before she can dwell on it, she gets a call from the professor confirming that the handwriting belongs to the same person. And it looks like Oppa made good on those hairs, asking his friend why the DNA test results haven’t come out yet.

Yoo-kyung immediately goes to Se-joo to parse the information, adding that the torn diary page is twenty-five years old. What’s strange is that the two diaries’ contents diverge starting from the day of the Fated Accident, and even Mi-rae wrote that the crazy ajumma from the future is carrying the same diary as hers.

She insists it makes sense if they buy the bit that Ajumma Mi-rae is from the future. Se-joo laughs at that and asks what else was written there. Yoo-kyung answers hesitantly, “That… you and I… would get married.”

He laughs again in disbelief, which oof—that’s got to hurt. He attributes everything to a series of coincidences, and says that he’s working with Ajumma Mi-rae because they both want the same thing.

That’s when they’re interrupted to the sound of cheers—their team has just won an award for the subway arson incident.

Shin and the rest of the team is presented with an award for journalism, and they celebrate with cake. Then Writer Bae accidentally kills the mood to ask why only the full-timers also received a monetary award.

Oppa decides that they’ll use the funds to go on a trip, but it’s not enough to go overseas, so they settle for a MT (an overnight retreat to play games and be merry).

The team play games in the bus, all except for Shin, who follows behind in his car, grumbling that they really did take him seriously when he said he’d come alone. Heh.

Shin peers out of his solo room at the sounds of laughter and enjoyment from the team playing games outside. He remains his usual prickly self when Oppa asks if he’s playing or not a bit later, choosing to sit it out.

But their current game requires the team members to break into groups of whatever number is called, and Shin immediately gets up with a lame excuse to join in. Hee, you just don’t want to see Mi-rae get too close to Se-joo.

He misses his chance to pair up with Mi-rae in the next round, and then we see Jokey PD dramatically run into his arms. Shin motions at him to get lost. HA.

Oppa smiles to see Mi-rae and Se-joo washing veggies together. Se-joo sends her off to rest once they’re done, citing that she’ll lose a lot of sleep when she starts her assignment.

She heads out to fetch some more wood, where Shin is hilariously failing at chopping and kicks the pile. Shin says he’s heard about her undercover mission and tells her to give it up because it’s too dangerous.

Mi-rae tells him that she’s learned a lot through working on the pilot, even though most of her work was never aired. She asks what might have happened if she never pushed to write the narration, and he says she’d do what she’s always done before that.

But she means what might have happened if she never became a television writer. He asks if she’s wondering if she’s destined to become a writer, but Mi-rae answers no—she doesn’t believe in destiny.

She believes that there are a lot of Mi-raes in this world: one who works at a dead-end call center, one who gets married because her brother told her to, and one who never tried anything and gave up. But she’s proud of herself because she at least got to choose her career.

“So I plan to keep living this way,” she explains. “Whatever I want, whatever I want to do, whoever I like…” Mi-rae cuts herself off, then continues, “To choose whatever my heart tells me to do.”

She hopes that Shin will do the same. She doesn’t know the reason why Shin is keeping her at a distance, but if it’s not because he hates her, then she hopes he’ll be bolder than he is now.

As Yoo-kyung helps Se-joo out in the bus, she teases that Mi-rae doesn’t help him out at a time like this. But she frowns at the mention that Chairman Lee has met Mi-rae, since that means Grandma knows about her grandson’s feelings towards Mi-rae.

So when Se-joo asks her to put in a good word about Mi-rae to Grandma, Yoo-kyung agrees to do so like a good wingwoman, although she’s clearly hurt.

But then Se-joo pushes her last button when he also asks her to call Mi-rae over for him, which dude—couldn’t you just call her? Regardless of whether there is a signal, Yoo-kyung does an about-face, having had enough of playing messenger. Does he consider her a pushover?

Se-joo answers that he’s never thought of her as one: “Because you’re a really good friend.” Well that certainly drives the final nail into the friendzoned coffin.

He says there’s no one else he can talk to about Mi-rae, and Yoo-kyung finally bursts to ask why she should have to listen to his woes when they’re coming from her crush. Omo.

On the brink of tears, Yoo-kyung asks if he even knows how miserable she’s been feeling all this time and leaves. Good for you, girl.

We get a merry-go-round montage of saddened looks in our love square during dinner and the bonfire as they reflect on the words spoken to them from each other.

Shin in particular thinks of Mi-rae’s encouragement for him to be bolder. So when Oppa asks for each team member for a few words, Shin volunteers to go first.

He confesses, “I… like Mi-rae.” OMO. Then he looks directly at Mi-rae: “How do you feel?”

COMMENTS

Eeeeee! *indiscernible high-pitched noises* That’s how I feel! But since I need some more coherent words from this point on, here they are: A great, awesome cliffhanger for Shin, who’s finally truthy to his feelings about Mi-rae to everyone and himself. What I love most about this confession is that there was a quick turnaround from the encouragement to be bold about his feelings and to follow his heart and actually say the words. And then directly ask how Mi-rae feels.

As for Mi-rae, she really has been coming into her own since the onset of the series, hasn’t she? This isn’t to say she hasn’t had her own bumps in the road, but we’re seeing how she handles her struggles differently now, facing them head-on instead of wallowing in self-pity. Sure, she still doesn’t know what kind of writer she wants to be, but she knows that she got the chance to decide her career for herself. Her current situation in life is a culmination of all of those small decisions, and that in order to be happy, she needs to choose her own destiny and make her own dream come true.

Not only that, I love how she doesn’t shy away from Shin because he’s placed an invisible barrier between them, and though I still adore her interactions with Se-joo, it becomes increasingly apparent what will drive a wedge between them for romance. Se-joo’s worry that Mi-rae will run away because of his wealthy background has become almost a fixation, and even though Mi-rae already knows (but may not believe) it, the longer he puts it off, the more elaborate the scheme is to keep her in the dark.

Thank goodness for Grandma Lee to knock a little sense into Se-joo for liking someone who already has feelings for someone else. But this is dramaland, where the second lead will continue to fight for the heroine’s heart regardless of what anyone says. And to Mi-rae’s credit, she’s a girl worth fighting for.

Yoo-kyung really drives the conflict and episode forward this hour with her discovery of the two diaries. I love that she dares to question the strangeness about it all, and is legitimately confused about the clues before her because the truth sounds so far-fetched. She also earns a bucketful of brownie points when it comes to Se-joo, refusing to play Cupid anymore to his feelings. I’m still interested in what she’ll actually do with all of this information, which leaves a question mark for her character. Yet at this point, I still appreciate how she isn’t your typical, malicious second lead, and can sympathize with the hurtful feelings of rejection from a crush.

This episode also gave us a peek into Ajumma Mi-rae’s memories, to which I can only say finally. These flashforwards of the future triggered reactions I expected: a sense of aww with a longing for what seems like a lost dream. We see that things unfurled just as Ajumma Mi-rae had previously said, and the big question of the hour is who was in that car crash. I could sit here and pick apart the pieces to bits, but what overwhelms me is just how happy Shin and Mi-rae actually were. Because goddamnit, they’re plain adorable together. Then I wish that we had gotten these glimpses sooner because it’s as if the show is hoping to strike some sympathy heartstrings for a victim of circumstance far too late. But with six episodes to go, who knows what the show will throw at us next and I can only hope that things will continue to look up.

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I don't understand why she's suddenly telling everyone she's from the future? Oppa... I get. But the rest...

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I think is because telling about her being from the future was the only way she found to make them listen to her.

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She is getting desperate as it is seems that nobody listen to her anymore. Or that she begins to doubt her own reasons.

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i agree with you. Partly cos now everyone either sees her as a sham shaman or juz another mad woman.

Plus, her plans are all coming apart. especially wrt her "past" mi-rae, ahjumma probably didn't foresee that her appearance will cause a change to her (past) self and since ahjumma didn't have the benefit of having a future self knock sense into her, she had basically continued on the wallow-in-self-pity trajectory, and blames all her predicaments on a third party. So instead of coming back to change herself, she took the "easy" way by changing husband.

But when she actually sees Mi-rae getting stronger and challenging her "solution", she begins to doubt that her plan will work...

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Also, thank for the recap :)

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Thank you hair god!!! But I had given up on it already.shows way too good for trivial stuff. But thank you hair god.

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Thanks for the recap, Gummi.

I haven't watched episode 10 but darn, Yoo-kyung. As if I need another reason to like you. I love that she doesn't beat around the bush and not being another as-long-as-you're-happy character and crying while no one's looking.

Kudos to Shin, also. Yes, guys. Let's put everything on the table now.

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Yoo Kyung is just awesome. She's very defined in her feelings and goals and acts on them. There's no wishy-washiness with her. I was so happy that armed with the knowledge from the diary, she went straight to Se Joo and was honest about what she thought of it, instead of manipulating things around or even threatening FMR. Then she didn't even take long to confess her own feelings. You go, girl.

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Yes I really appreciate the second lead. She's pretty decent how she behaved towards mirae after knowing sejoos feelings. And she isn't the twisted types. At least until now.

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I was about to say that too. I'm glad they didn't make her into the catty, bitchy type (though, she was a little in the beginning). She's more like your typically second male lead. I actually feel sorry for her for being friendzoned by her crush, and hiding her hurt.

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Yes, SYK fight for her love and future!

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I was so excited to see a girl character actually be able to run!! And in heels no less! I really like Yoo-kyung and I'm glade they are making her a really well rounded character. The conflict is between her and Se-joo. No petty female rivalry fighting over the same guy.

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YK is a welcome change from the all too common "you're my rival so I am going murder your or worse" cliché. I feel sorry for her, always trying to be nice and polite yet getting nowhere.

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And that's why, seeing that she was getting nowhere, she stepped up her game and confessed outright to Se Joo despite knowing she was walking straight into rejection. This girl's not going to spend her time pining secretly. In a way, her bold confession may have been spurred on by the notion of FMR having changed the past and stolen what was rightfully hers, but I like to think that it's her own inner strength that made her step up to the plate instead.

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The thing is, Yoo Kyung initially flirted with Se-joo to annoy Mi-Rae.

And then she only ended up "liking" him because he's rich.

So I'm not really sympathetic to her character at all.

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I am also very glad that Yoo Kyung not only stood up for her own feelings but is also pretty sharp. (Brownies with fudge icing!) Actually, in this episode it seemed like they were all open with how they felt toward their romantic interest. Obviously, Mi Rae knows how Se Joo feels.

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The reimagining of the second leading lady as a human being with feelings instead of Standard Hateful Bitch/Standard Hero-Clingy Doormat has got to be my favourite kdrama trend of 2013.

I Hear Your Voice, Master's Sun and now Mirae's Choice have all done it really well. And to a lesser extent, there was Gu Family Book, though that was more thanks to a fantastic performance by Lee Yubi triumphing over the writer trying to turn her into a standard pining doormat. But I do like this trend and hope it continues - it helps that all of them were played by very competent actresses, too.

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Exactly. I'm also loving this trend. It also gives the bonus of having two love stories for the price of one. That in my books is always a great thing.

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I was just thinking this the other day, I've complained countless times about silly bitchy second leads and now finally kdrama gods heard my prayers! The only problem is when show doesn't deliver them I'll miss them even more!

Not only I get very happy feeling the writer respects my intelligence giving me a full fledged character but the story becomes so much better and it also means the writing is confident enough that I don't need to hate second lead to like the main and the story can evolve much more naturally.

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I agree. After seeing so many dramas in the past where the 2nd lead is just some pathetic evil bitch harpy from hell it is nice to see one that is actually a decent person. I find myself rooting more for YK than MR.

I seem to be seeing several new trends, though some have not totally caught on yet, such as the chairman always being an ass, but I do see some hope for more rounded characters in dramas - perhaps a lesson that US dramas could learn from.

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pathetic evil bitch harpy from hell is a very accurate description. :P

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Yeah I first saw this trend with "Protect The Boss". It was a surprise for a lot of viewers to see a drama where there were no vipers. Then to later watch "Rooftop Prince" where the second leads were from Hell.

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No doubt about it. FMR is definitely Mirae. And now we have confirmation that it wasn't Shin who died nor was it something metaphorical that died (ie, hopes, dreams, etc). I am mostly sticking to this drama just to find out who that person was.

Anyone else thought YEH looked like our resident Hard Candy (Hwang Jung Eum from Secret) in the future-flashback scene when she was in the bar with Shin? For a moment, I thought I was watching the wrong drama, lol.

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Didn't we hear from middle-aged Mirae, that Shin was somehow responsible for Oppa's death (back in an early episode)?

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I don't recall that....if it is as you say, could you share what episode it was?

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YEH and LDG really look good together. I used to be KJK-YEH shipper but after seeing YEH with LDG, I jumped ship.

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me too...this episode made me jump ship...they are CUTE together...

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I agree (1 million times), they look so adorable together! #teamShinMirae

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Shin - Mirae's ship forever!! Kim Shin - MiRae is the end game!

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Thank goodness that awful hairdo is gone! The flashforward dating scene was just too cute.

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I want to jump ship too. But I'll hold it. Still want KJK-YEH. It's gonna be wretched-love or fate-is-something-you-can't-messed-up-with-no-matter-what.

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I agree with what MR said near the end - your fate is not fixed, so I can still see this going in different directions, or at least with different outcomes.

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i love this series :D Yonghwa ><

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First things first: the hair! Finally :) I was waiting for a more dramatic/significant makeover, but i'll take it. Took years off of her face.

Secondly, whatever doubt i had that Yong Hwa was headed toward the second lead territory is almost gone now. I think it's safe to say that he's there. Sure, FMR took the chance to go back to the past to try and change it, but i guess like the train station arson, they can't stop the act itself but can somewhat turn things for the better. They weren't able to stop the man from setting the fire, but they were able to save those people from dying. Apply Shin and Mi-Rae getting married here. They can't stop it, but this time around, maybe no one dies and Shin will not hit rock bottom. Too bad for Se-Joo. What was the point of having the to meet so dramatically in the beginning? Was the supposed to be Yoo-Kyung who tried to drown herself but ended up playing with a bunch of Nemos instead of Mi-Rae?

Thirdly, i do like that Mi-Rae has evolved from the insecure call centre agent to a person who goes after what she wants. I don't know if she'll be like that when it comes to choosing the guy, but i guess it doesn't help that Shin goes back and forth bring a robot, and being all sweet and gentle.

Fourth: i thought that glimpses from FMR's life would at least shed some light to some of the questions that i actually discuss with people in real life, but it just raised more questions.

Also, why aren't there rules to this whole time-traveling thing? I mean, if Mi-Rae burned herself, shouldn't FMR have a scar on her leg, too? Oh well, 6 more episodes and we find out :)

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4. Unless she already changed her future self. Then FMR is no longer the same Mi Rae of the past. ??? Meaning she already changed her destiny. It makes sense in my head.

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Not just Mirae, but from the flashforward/back we can see that Kim Shin had taken FMR for granted. Now we all can see that he has to fight his own feelings esp jealousy and helpless-ness when it comes to Mirae and Se Joo. So he can respect her more.

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"What was the point of having the to meet so dramatically in the beginning? Was the supposed to be Yoo-Kyung who tried to drown herself but ended up playing with a bunch of Nemos instead of Mi-Rae?"

I keep asking that question as well! Based upon Mi-Rae's constant attraction and pull toward Kim Shin. I am not at the point where I can easily overlook some of Shin's actions just because he is fated to be with Mi-rae.

So far, and probably till the end, the message will be that you can't or won't change your choice or destined love even if it is ill-fated.

It still bothers me that we are suppose to overlook or justify Shin as someone with a "hot and cold" persona full of ego and jerk tendencies.

For example:
-Throwing water in Mi-rae's face but never really having to apologize specifically for this.
-Some of his harsh below the belt words to Mi-rae after Se-joo's confession.
-Bragging to Seo Yoo-Kyung after their ride in the elevator about getting revenge on Mi-rae.
-Yippy, all Shin had to do for Mi-rae was treat Mi-rae's ankle burn and tell her he was jealous of her and Se-joo together.

With each episode, it's hard to get on the bandwagon of the kdrama cliche of "Oh, he starts out as a jerk, then realizes or doesn't realize his feelings yet, but deep down he loves the heroine and is best for her...Suck it up...Can't you see?"

This is not to say that Shin has not expressed or had caring moments with Mi-rae. (For example: Giving her chances at YBS; Lessons (Actual Dates); Subway moments together; Reading her final narration for the haunted house and etc.

I have made it through some crappy kdramas. Why did I waste my time watching this? I have wasted hours and can't get them back!

However, this drama is on another level and has almost broken my addiction to and excitement for watching kdramas. All of the actors are doing a great job and I support them. There are aspects of the drama that I am enjoying. Mi-rae receiving a jolt from FMR and trying to better her life/career. The different layers and workplace issues spotlighted with Writer Bae and Seo Yoo-Kyung. A different spin on the Chaebol - this time with a heart -trying to learn or experience the company from the ground up, balance human interest vs. profit, and with a grandmother so far that's not evil.

I am at a point where I really don't feel like and know if -- I want to sit through another kdrama where the nice male second lead provides the emotional support at the right moments; says all the right things to the heroine; champions, defends and looks out for the heroine; in this drama actually confesses his feelings and is still friendzoned; doesn't badmouth the heroine or mistreat her even if they experience misunderstandings, and still it never registers on the heroine's love radar.

What the heroine feels a connection with, is that although he can be a jerk, he loves me underneath it all!

To top it all off, just pair up the 2nd male and female leads with each other. This will make everything alright.

I really want to stop now, because I can sense where this storyline is headed and how it will end.

Be careful for falling for what many upcoming kdramas present in their promos, often they market something new, but it ends up being the same product just a different package.

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But isn't that how real life is sometimes? The person who is perfect for you on paper, who is a great friend, is really nice, is just that? A great friend? We have to have friends, too. Sometimes there's just a connection, and you can't force love and attraction, though I guess you can marriage--and still to good results if that's what you're seeking. And just because you are really nice to a girl and treat her well, doesn't mean that she is also obligated to love you back (not to say that that is what you mean, either, just a general comment about "nice guys" in that vein).

I guess though I am not seeing Kim Shin as jerky as maybe some others are, though. Like initially he was, but he's been at most, I think, a little prickly but not like in a way that can't bee seen through by the characters. He's trusted Mirae, challenged her, helped her, and been perhaps more honest with her than Se-Joo. He also sees her as she really is and not as this perfect, naive creature I think Se-Joo sort of still sees her as, and that's a better basis for a relationship, too, because how can anyone live to an ideal?

However, all that said, it would be nice to see more dramas where the two lead romantic characters are really good to one another and understanding and end up together. It's rare, though. One show I thought did that well though, and recently, was "Ad Genius Lee Tae Baek." It didn't do great in the ratings, but the two leads formed a friendship first, there was very little bickering, and they worked together as a team and friends as they slowly began to fall for one another.

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Yeah, like you said, Ad Genius Lee Tae Baek had the two leads forming a friendship first, working together as a team, and then slowly progressing toward feelings for one another.

At the moment, I am disillusioned with kdrama heroines willingly or being obligated to love the jerk, egotistical, or prickly male lead. I sway back and forth with accepting Mi-rae's Choice as it is and what I think it should be... And, that's on me.

I admit that I was looking for something different with Mi-rae's Choice.

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I think that "obligation" trope is one of the reasons I get so mad at dramas like Heirs and many other previous dramas (you know who you are). I don't see that quite so much in Mi Rae, but the same feeling is still there, just not so blatant.

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But the difference here is that Future Mi-rae (with 20/20 hindsight and life experience already lived) came back to warn Present Mi-rae not to make the same mistakes. Future Mi-rae helped Present Mi-rae win a vacation she always wanted, jolted Present Mi-rae into bettering her job/career choices, become somewhat independent from her brother, and even suggested a better marriage partner/relationship to avoid future heartache.

My future self doesn't have to visit me, for me to realize that some of the choices/decisions that I have made in life, I should have done differently. Even now in the present, reflection upon past and future choices and decisions happens.

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You took the words out of my mouth. I'm still not buying the "fated lovers" premise. I'm not (yet) sold on the OTPs attraction, emotional connection or whatsoever yet.

This may sound superficial but MR's new haircut (pretty pretty) made KS look so much older to her in comparison.

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I don't see Mi Rae and Shin as "fated lovers", but more of…the heart wants what it wants. I agree with @opheliadrowning, even if on paper this certain person seems perfect for us, but what if our hearts just don't incline to that person?

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Far be it for us to take sage advice and wisdom from those who have traveled down the path we are taking and lived to tell the tale of what to do and what not to do.

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That was kind of my fate--the heart wants what it wants, and fate can still be changed, you just have to look differently at what "fate" means here--because even if Mirae and Kim Shin end up getting married and staying together, who says that based on how they have changed that they would end up with the same "ill fate"? I think that's part of the choice, too--to see the situation and act in a different way. Like, this Mirae, if she were to marry KS and then he were to get laid off and sit on the couch all day, I think present Mirae would push harder to make him do something productive, or else she would leave him. She's a lot stronger now, I think, and she's already made a lot of different decisions than FMR did.

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the love may be predestined but personality isn't destined, i think. That's why we fall in love...so we can change them or they can change us. But it seems that in this drama there is something super-important about changing before the marriage versus changing after the marriage, or maybe winning the girl and changing/wooing her before the marriage versus after.

I kinda wish we didn't all have to fall in line with the "the first lead girl gets the guy she wants" trope. Why can't the second lead ever get what he wants? But it's pretty sealed. Since Yoo-kyung exists, there really is no real "choice" for the main character. Because there is that pesky "destroying another fated marriage" issue. If Se-joo had no woman longing for him, this drama would really be honestly true to its theme.

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Seju isn't even that nice. He's just as much as a jerk as Shin, but in a different way. He's consistently deceiving her about who he is. Lies to her about meeting his grandma for no real reason. So, really is Shin not apologizing that huge of a deal? They are both pretty flawed individuals and both are not perfect for her. It's just silly to be upset about her not liking him when he's never been honest to her from the start.

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I totally agree with that. He has a unattractive side (to me at least) too. The continued subterfuge about who he is, the conspiring with FMR to sort of preen his dominance over Kim Shin. The chaebol-y jerkiness that makes him think he is allowed to have his way one way or another because of who he is. He's made a good faith effort to get to know the business from the ground up, but he's also used his position to try to smack KS down.

At least he hasn't started forcing himself on Mirae, though, in a sort of "I deserve this because I've been nice to you!" way.

Both of them are interesting male leads though, and complicated, and I like that. But I think I like the idea of Mirae with Kim Shin better because 1) they are both mutually attracted to one another, 2) they challenge each other, which then leads to 3) both of them to grow as people, and change for the better.

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Shin did the same thing, to try to show dominance, but the thing is Shin never had a big speech about everyone being equal like Seju did. I guess everyone is equal until someone below you tries to one up you and steal the girl you like? Ehh...

They are both interesting, but thinking Shin is getting a pass and Seju is not is pretty laughable. Because Seju is a "nice guy" he gets a pass for some of the things he does the same way Shin gets a pass for some things.

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That's true. What is going to happen when Mirae realizes she's been lied to by Seju all along? She is going to be the last to know his real identity and that does not make good fodder for a relationship.

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My issue is with the writer.

By the way, I was not bothered by Mi-rae spending time with either Shin or Se-joo to access her feelings.

As viewers, we have entered this repetitive cycle of alternating between odd and even episodes spotlighting scenes with either Shin or Se-joo and "supposedly" an undecided Mi-rae. However, once it became apparent that with Shin it was attraction/feelings of love and with Se-joo it was a platonic friendship, the writer should have ceased with the false illusion of undecidedness by Mi-rae.

We the viewers are not hamsters and should not be subjected to continuously spinning/running on wheels.

It's simply prolonging a false illusion of choice. Like the two men are really romantically equivalent to each other in Mi-rae's eyes and heart.

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The leg burn happened AFTER FMR had come from the future, so she would not have it.

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Also, she removed her shoulder scar in the future which is why she couldn't show it to her brother.

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The flash forward scenes were adorable, but the ones of the daily life and Shin just sitting at home all day really did make me think. Dating and romance is sweet, but when the reality of life hits, frustrations and drudgery can easily drive a wedge between a couple until the good memories are overtaken by impatience and anger. I sympathise with both. Let's hope there's enough changing in this timeline for this not to happen (ie all four of our main leads respect each other in the end, if not having cute couple dates hee.)

Shin's confession was very in character, but man, it's just as bad as Sejoo's tbh. So much pressure for her to be stuck in between her whole workplace team, and adding to that a brother and another love interest ....... That wasn't good of you, dude. But still, in character and rife for conflict.

I hope they don't overdo the new Pandora Box theme. I'm just getting flashbacks of BOF with the chair scene urgh. Although Lee Dong Gun in Sweet 16 had a case involving drugs in a garage too haha.

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Again, who does a confession in front of witnesses without at least 'dating'?! I like that he took her words to heart and stepped up, but after reading your comment I realize he really did just stick her in the middle of 'drama' land.

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Yes, I think that FMR's meddling has got all 4 leads thinking about their future and actively changing, so FMR has probably, in my opinion, done enough to at least ensure that her marriage with Shin wouldn't end up the same. I'm more worrried about the big ticket "ill fate" events, like who's involved in that future car accident , just like Shin and Mirae couldn't avoid the car crash with each other.

Regarding Shin's confession, I agree, it's pretty embarrassing to be put on the spot like that before the whole team, but both Mirae and her Oppa have been challenging Shin to make a decision about his feelings and intentions towards her, so I see it as primarily a confession, but also a declaration to everyone that he likes and supports Mirae both as a girl and as a valued colleague

(I think there's some double standards going on here, btw - why does Shin have no right to worry about Mirae unless he's contemplating marrying her, but Sejoo gets brownie points with Oppa just because he offers to protect her while on assignment?)

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Gahh I feel bad for Kim SHin.. Anyone keep tell Mi Rae they should stay away from Kim Shin like he is get contagion or something..

I know he is someone who is unable to get along with his environment easily... But Future Mirae need to realise Kim SHin is a person who has capable of changing...

please don't look down on him and keep blame him for something he hasn't done yet!

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Thanks for the recap!

Really like the series so far, it deserves a two digit ratings!

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I have to get back to my stupid research paper so I can't leave a long comment, but I just want to say - I loved this episode, it makes up for the frustration of the last three, and I'm making the same high-pitched noise you are! Totally agree with all your comments. Great recap as usual.

My favourite moment was Mirae's quiet, resolute, honest confession by the woodpile. This is why she is a great heroine.

I'm loving all four leads now and I can even sympathize with Future Mirae. Can't wait for next week! (How will we wait?!)

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Thanks so much for the recap.

I love Shin so much...even if he'll turn out to be depressed way-too-principled layabout.

I don't think it's oppa who died. If FMR told him of his death-because-of-Shin, he would take care of himself. Oppa doesn't need Shin's money. And oppa wouldn't be merely angry with Shin. That's not to say oppa didn't die for some other cause ..but if he died, Shin's money had nothing to do with it.

Time-cop's and Future Mirae's aging thingey is really annoying me with their plot convenience. I'm trying to think of the time dynamics. FMR ages a year for each month she's in current time. Is it that Future Mirae really is "aging" or is it that she has really only been away from the future for maybe five or so hours but in current Mirae's time it reads like a couple of weeks? If that's the case, does she have anyone in the future looking for her? Dead or not, where is Shin? Won't he be worried?

Other question: About fate and bad choices. We're all wishing Mirae happiness and we're hoping Shin changes because it's obvious they are the Fated Ones. But let's say Shin doesn't change. Let's say Shin and Mirae happens and the same stuff happens again. Isn't it possible to eek some happiness out of the rest of one's life even if one has made wrong love-inspired choices?

It is still quite possible for the Future Current Mirae on the new timeline to have the same horrible time and then have to make her choice in the future...divorce Shin for instance. Or maybe after the divorce or death of Shin to marry SeJoo (Yep, I was always one who believed one could have one's cake and eat it too.)

A bad but loving choice in the present, which leads to a bad life, doesn't mean a person's life is forever over. Even in the future, some little joy and redemption can be had even if healing and restoration don't come. Even if one still loves the cause of one's despair one can choose to divorce for one's own happiness.

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I don't even think about the aging thingy since it's so inconsistent. It's nothing more than a plot device as far as I can tell.

As for fate and bad choices, maybe this time around they can appreciate their love more since they actually had to work for it. It did appear the FMR truly regretted the way their love died.

I'm all for divorce. (I'm much happier and stable.). I told my daughter just this morning that while I have a few things I would do differently before having her, I wouldn't change anything until after she was conceived. Nothing is worth losing her in my life. (Apparently I'm in time travel mode, just finished Nine, so it's been a topic with us.)

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Dang, if aging is a plot device, it should contribute something to the plot. Not just an "oooh, she looks like she has tummy troubles!" vibe. So annoying.

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Lol!

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It's unfortunate but Nine has ruined me for time-travelling cause it was so pitch perfect in being precise and sensible about time travelling. Here, the writer has not done much to explain these things and has only made what could have been a thrilling, suspenseful thing seem childish and silly. I should've known the moment they put a chubby actor with funny styling to act as a Time Cop. What's worse, the writer didn't even define if he was a Time Cop and left us to assume things and fill in the blanks.

I know I sound like a broken record repeating this stuff in just about every recap but it keeps bothering me and that mars my enjoyment of the show. If Mirae got a new scar, then FMR should get one too; if MR wrote new stuff in her diary, then that should have overridden what FMR had in her own diary, giving not a chance to YK for finding the inconsistencies and making it harder for her believe that FMR is in fact future MR.

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Yes, NINE did a good job of changing/adding to the time-travel genre. Very effective. The way it's handled here seems old-fashioned.

I'm really still wondering what all happened to the scar.

This writer seems to have made the mistake of falling into the trap of "saving the best for last." Some great surprises await us no doubt but part of writing suspense is to not leave all the suspenseful goodies til the last two chapters/episodes. You have to know what to tell and what not to and when and where and why. It wouldn't hurt to tell us what powers Time-Cop has, or what the aging Mirae issues might be. But nooooooooo.

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Agreed. Sometimes I get the feeling the show would be much better if it was less com and just rom. I think the writer was afraid of going all the way but sometimes to be good and honest to the story that's what needs to be done. FMR should be a much more dramatic role than she is right now, maybe that's why so many people dislike her. We should be seeing a lot more of FATE interfering just like the car accident in the beginning so her stuborness believing the future would happen the same way would be more logical.

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yes, a whole lot more of fate interfering. Fate seems way picky about when it steps in. It kinda lost some of its magic when it lost some of its magical realism. It's still holding me but I feel the writer didn't play honestly or correctly with the theme.

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Mmm…you make me miss NINE...

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While I agree Nine got the time traveling right (and did a better job), I think it's set up differently. In Nine there was a direct correlation between the future and past by way of what happened in the past was not realized or remembered in the the future until exactly 20 years to the minute had passed. In this, FMR doesn't know half of what her past self is doing let alone thinking. Now if we saw her jump "back to the future" ( I crack myself up :) ) we might be able to see the results of present day Mi Rae's decisions, her new diary entries and the bill for the ankle scar removal. Since she is stuck in the past those changes have not happened to FMR. At least that is what I think the writer intended with FMR.

I have no idea what she's thinking about the aging thingy and Mr. Time cop. I just hope she doesn't save all the explanations for the end or (knock on wood) doesn't explain at all.

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I agree with that. Nine handled time travel best of any drama or movie I have seen, including US made ones. In this drama, far too much is left open or badly explained or handled.

But as for your second paragraph, I totally disagree. Time travel books and movies have been around for at least 150 years, and over that time certain "rules" have developed. One of those rules is that if you go back in time, you are part of NOW, not FUTURE, so things like the burn and the diary would not affect you or any objects (the diary) that you brought back.

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I am bothered by the Time Travel inconsistencies too (also LOVED "Nine" and "Queen In-Hyun's Man").....

-----both diaries can not exist in the same time frame. There is one diary.

The scaring too. These things may seem minor, but if you are creating a world, it has to be consistent - unless it is the extremely cheapo lazy writer's route of "this was all a dream"......

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I disagree, It clicked for me once Present!Mirae started talking about many different Mi-rae's existing in the world.

No one actually knows how time travel is supposed to work. I've seen all sorts of stories where they handled time travel differently. The only thing that matters w/ these stories is if it's consistent. To put my nerd hat on, this is quite similiar to Dragonball Z when Future Trunks went back into the past to try and change that future, but his future was already set.

To get even more nerdier, this show seems to take the multiverse theory of time travel/quantum where there are infinite upon infinite amounts of universes based on possibilities. So Mi-rae either creates a new universe with her meddling or she crosses into another universe. It gets confusing.

Basically there's plenty of legit reasons why Future Mirae isn't affected by Present Mi-rae. I'll just stop 'cause I got way too nerdy here.

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I don't think it's Oppa either. Oppa wouldn't do what he's doing simply to save himself. And he wouldn't do it because Shin becomes a coach potato. Whatever it is, even worst timecop ever feels sorry for her. So it has to be something big. I still think it's probably Shin's death or something that can't be take back and you can't fix without doing some drastic like going into the past.

Sure, it's possible to still have happiness. I don't think in the end we are going to assured everything will be perfect (because even for kdramas that unrealistic), but that Mirae will make the choice to go with it because it's what she wants to do regardless. Even marrying Seju is not a guarantee of a happy life forever. Maybe Seju gets the film making bug now that Mirae inspires him. Maybe YBS goes broke for some reason. He could ends being the poor one by being married to Mirae and not YK. Who knows.

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One does wonder why timecop is hovering around with Future Mirae's guard supposedly about...and why Mirae's guard doesn't just capture him and drag him to Miranda? If YK saw him snooping around, shouldn't the guard be able to spot him as well? So irking the glitches in this drama.

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lol I forgot about her bodyguard... The writer might have too.

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I forgot also!

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Yoo-kyung, you go girl! I'm with ya!
Haha. Thanks for the recap~! :)

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I personally have thought the person that died was future Mi-rae ans Shin's child for a few weeks now. Which while if I'm right makes her slightly less selfish but doesn't make me loathe her any less.

You know it's funny but up to this point Yoo-kyung has reminded me more of the typical second male lead than the second female lead, which I like and hope it stays that way.

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This episode seems to be the climax and how am I glad to see this coming. Finally! Although FMR real aim is still unclear and who the hell is that guy with the funny hair? Is he Yoo Kyoung's son? Why the hell is he scared after seeing her?

Miranda, I like your sharp insight. MR does not even like PSJ so why he pursued her like crazy? And she keeps her cool until the very end. She only blows up after MR is left with the taxi.

SYK I feel you, keep it going. I hope the ripped diary page has an important hidden info and that FMR cannot keep track of it. And something happens.

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Miranda was really good this episode. I would be saying the same things if I were her.

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This episode is actually where all the villain-ish characters shine the most. Yoo Kyeong and Miranda are really pulling their prowess in this ep.

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My favorite part of this episode, I think, had to be FMR's flashback to the happy moments that she had with Shin when they first got married. I feel like that finally breaks a little more into the hardness of her character, and we get to first, feel more sure that this is in fact Mirae in the future, second, that she did really love Shin, so her decision to do this is not one done light. But also, third, that maybe she is beginning to feel some regret or doubt about her mission, especially as she sees before her very eyes Kim Shin changing due to how she's altered the timeline.

I saw someone's comment on Viki about how if Mirae picks Kim Shin and not Se-Joo, then what the story is saying is that "you can't change fate"; but I see it a different way. I think this is still ultimately Mirae's Choice. She's aware of FMR's warnings, and while she can perhaps not choose who she loves, she can choose who she marries, and how she goes about getting there.

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I think it's about changing her own fate. Not necessarily who she loves, but her own dreams, ambitions, and how she deals with those choices. She's not a wallflower anymore.

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Good point! It's easy to think of the choice as Kim Shin or Se-Joo, but it's actually more important to think of "her choice" as her choice about how to live her life and whether or not to pursue her dreams. She talks about the different Miraes in parallel universes, which speaks to this--that different Miraes have made different choices and have lived different lives--and in this one, this is how she has chosen to live it.

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I don't know why people thinking changing fate has to mean picking someone new. Mirae and Shin can change their fate together. Like Plumwine said, Mirae is a lot more ready to take on a depressed husband now and Shin is a lot more willing to bend than he was before. All her picking Shin means is that she loves him regardless of a possible bad future and still loves him despite constant meddling.

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Now that would be true love. Which I think is where this writer wants to take us.

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I don't believe in "fate" at all. I look at life as an infinite number of choices, and every choice we make cannot be taken back. Mi Rae has already made many different choices from FMR, so (at least in theory) what happens now is totally undecided.

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Yes, if/when Mirae chooses Shin, it will definitely be an informed choice! Plus, by then, the Mirae who makes that choice will not be the same person as when FMR originally chose to marry Kim Shin before. The Kim Shin that present Mirae picks will also be different and more self-aware because of FMR's warnings.

As someone commented, I'm also really curious to see what Sejoo and Yookyung's original "destined" meeting was like. There's not many episodes left, so I really want to see SJ and YK end up together as a strong couple.

It also bothers me a bit that Shin and Mirae haven't been having any more "flashback" dreams about each other. If it was just a one-off convenient plot device to ground Shin's romantic feelings for Mirae, then it was a bit "cheap".

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Oh. Regarding the cliffhanger, I hadn't thought it could be Mirae he's asking; thought it was Seju. Anyway Seju pls pls pls don't be an insensitive jerk and chime in with 'I like her too' when someone just confessed to you a while ago... >.<

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I agree. I wasn't squeeing about the confession becuase it felt more like a challenge to Se-Joo than a romantic gesture. If he had told Mirae privately how he felt, I would have liked it better (although I guess that would make for a less dramatic cliffhanger).

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I agree as well. I hope Se-joo avoids acting and responding in the manner that Shin responded after his confession to Mi-rae.

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I also hope Se Joo will not ruin the confession. It's not about pride but heart.

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I agree. When you look at where they're sitting, Kim Shin's sitting across from Mirae and Sejoo, who are sitting next to each other. After he looks straight at Mirae and tells her he likes her, he deliberately looks at the person next to her and addresses them: "How about you?"

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I know people are commenting how cute the dating scenes are but I don't see that. I see MR the only one showing all the affection. Yes KS looks happy but in all of the dates MR the one who links his arm, feeds him, leans on him. I don't doubt KS love for MR but it makes it seem that MR is a greater love than KS. That is why when times turn tuff KS shuts MR out while MR tries harder for KS.

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I don't see the "I'm in love" vibe with KS too... I don't know if it was intended that way by the writer, or if its LDG. Sigh.

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I love your comment, I feel the same. I am a guy so I feel he should reciprocate some of the affection. It hurts me to see the future scenes where Shin wallowed in self-pity while his wife tried to pick him up. It is a great offense for a guy to be mean to his woman and children. Jesus said in Matthew 18:6, "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." I took liberty to equate that to a man with his woman in today's sad society as well. Yes, I admit Shin is cute with MR, but unless he cheers up and change his personality a lot, I won't accept a KS-MR marriage. It sounds like Oppa was opposed to the marriage as well during that first time.

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I love the dating scenes and I agree that KS doesn't seem to be reciprocating.

This is similar to ep 8, i.e. FMR's flashback of their hiking trip when she kissed him on the cheek but he was nonchalant.

Contrast this to the earlier ep 3 & 4 - the 'dreamy' hospital scenes (which I really love and I can watch them over and over again). There, KS seemed to be really smitten and in love with MR. I also note that these were actually Shin's flashbacks; the one where Oppa appeared was dreamt by both KS and MR though.

YEH's really good at displaying of affection scenes. I do like the part in the flashbacks where she 'smells' Shin's shoulder, writes on his palm, feeds him olive (his expression is funny!).

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Imo, the flashbacks are about Ajumma's feelings and from her POV, not Shin's there (like you said, his flashbacks showed him in love) and we are supposed to see how deeply she loves him. Though really, he looked pretty into it to me...

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This show . . .I'm very conflicted about it. It has good elements and actors, but somehow they don't always gel properly. I feel like it wants to be something different, especially in regards to women - note the "I don't care about money" statements from Current Mirae. Yet at heart, it still seems like the same old "two guys fighting over a girl, chaebol involvement, second guy syndrome" story.

I've come to realize that a huge problem, for me, is the character of Current Mirae. I love Yoon Eun-Hye as an actress, and have found something engaging -even if not entirely likeable- about every one of her previous roles. But she leaves me so blah here. Compared to the other characters, she seems so passive. Even her decision to pursue a career was due to Future Mirae pushing her in the beginning.

Why are these guys so crazy about her? The recapper said, "And to Mi-rae’s credit, she’s a girl worth fighting for." But I really don't see why. There's nothing bad about her, but I can't see what makes her so special, either. She just isn't emotionally connecting for me.

Also, at this point I feel like the plot needs to move along more. We're over the halfway point, and we're still getting variations on Shin versus Se-Joo, Yoo-Kyung pursuing Seju, some workplace stuff thrown in on the side, ajumma bumbling around, and some mysterious flashbacks. If more was happening, it might improve the drama - at least for me.

Minor pet peeves - "I'm going to follow my heart" - one of my least favorite phrases and sentiments, ever. Also, confessing your feelings for someone at a work retreat? Really, Shin? That's not why I think they meant by team bonding.

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"Also, confessing your feelings for someone at a work retreat? Really, Shin? That’s not why I think they meant by team bonding."

How is this action from Shin any different from disguising his dates with Mi-rae as "Lessons." In the real world this day and age, with his position, seniority, and ego/jerk like tendencies, not that this was the case mind you, but the way sexual harassment starts and occurs in the workplace was in the back of my mind.

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@August - No difference at all. I had problems with the lessons, too!

Although there are times when I like Mirae and Shin together, I've always been bothered by the fact that Shin's decision to help her professionally seemed to be all about his romantic feelings for her. It bothered me with "MHIYD" because this seems like it was supposed to be more of a "female empowerment" drama.

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I hear you but i feel that you can't change everything in the world all at once. You have to change your audience little by little and you have to work in a genre your audience knows.

Romance is as old as the hills. A girl trying to figure out which guy she wants is par for the course. So i cut screenwriter-nim some slack.

So so so agreeing with you about the plot moving ahead. If this drama ends with Mirae "choosing Shin" as the final issue, I'll be annoyed. We should see his reactions to his firing and see resolution after the death of X. Not a lot of episodes to do that.

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Believe me, I'm not trying to change the K-drama template. And I love a good rom-com if it's executed well. I think MHIYD is just disappointing me because it seemed like they were heading for something different, but then they chickened out and just went for same old, same old, and not even in a particularly fun or interesting way.

I have a feeling that, as you said, "choosing Shin" will be the final episode - which annoys me greatly. There's so much they could have done with more flashbacks to the future, seeing some consequences of FM's meddling, etc. A lot of wasted potential. Plus, they really need to do something fast if Se-Joo and Yoo-Kyung are endgame. This is episode 10, and Se-Joo is literally laughing at the idea of being with Yoo-Kyung - but they're supposed to be in love by episode 16?

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I agree with you that Mi-rae's Choice is disappointing in a way because it really had so much potential to break the kdrama cliche and be bold with something modern and different.

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I agree 100%. I hope the writers surprise us and:

1. Have Mirae express her like for Shin in the next episode
2. Show us the good, bad, and ugly changes of Future Mirae's meddling
3. Show us who was supposed to die (I am assuming that Shin committed suicide...remember the flash back when he ran after we heard the car crashes and left Mirae who ended up falling on the ground...)
4. Flesh out the time cop's sub-plot
5. And maybe, if the changes Future Mirae made disrupted the world so much. I would be in favor of ending off with the writers showing us current Mirae growing older so that she can go back into the past and undue the changes her future self had once did.......

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Or what if:
1. Mirae express her like for Shin
2. But Mirae get's hurt and dies as a result of her undercover gig
3. Future Mirae goes poof!
4. Current Shin grows older and then comes back in the past to undue all the changes Future Mirae had done and in essence, save Mirae's life
5. Now Shin, having saved Mirae values her more and loves her more deeply so that they can have a balanced and happier marriage.....
end of story....

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OR.....
1. Mirae doesn't tell Shin how she feels
2. But when she get's hurt she whispers "salang" or something along the lines of "I love you" to him
3. And then Shin does the whole grow a bit older then go back in the past etc etc

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Surprises, hmmm...

1. Mi Rae goes to write some human documentary far away (Grandma's doing), deciding that she needs to put her self first before trying to choose to men acting like occasional boys. (That's also a hint for a show on tonight). Shin eventually follows her to discover a whole new world of announcing with his magic dictionary.
2. Time cop decides to do the research he wants and drags paleontologist bodyguard with him and they find a new flying dinosaur.
3.Future Shin comes back to get FMR, apologizing the whole time and buys a winning lotto ticket.
4. Grandma decides to become an actress/painter/lyricist.
5. Yoo Kyung leaves Se Joo who turns to filmmaking, then takes him back when he covers her in shiny silver stickers like the one on his car.

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@PlumWine: I can dig that story line.

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::nodding:: I've gotten used to dramas that chicken out, alas. After ALICE in C, I grew really wary.

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Carole,

What did you want to see happen towards the end with ALICE in C?

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I stopped watching it around episode 13. I felt it veered far from the premise. Usually, i can accept some veering but it really irked me. What happened? Other than the happily ever after part? Should i give it a chance? From what i remember, it was pretty much maddening.

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Park Si-Hoo (as Cha Seung-Jo) did an excellent job with the character and his portrayal.

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Oh gee, i thought Park Shi Hoo's character was not a cohesive whole. Was he suffering? was he pretending? Just very confusing.

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Since you stopped watching at episode 13, you missed some key character information.

After the revelation of Han Se Kyung's true motivation for embarking upon a relationship with him came to the forefront, I liked the examing roots of past behavior, exploration into current behavior, and fallout that his character dealt with.

Literally Park Shi Hoo's character actually juggling being Cha Seung Jo privately and Jean Thierry Cha for business came to the forefront with sudden impact was great plotwise and in terms of delving into his relationships with his father (Cha Il Nam), former fiancee/wife (Seo Yoon-Joo), and current romance with Han Se Kyung.

He needed his best friend/the doctor Park Kwang-Hyun (as Heo Dong-Wook)by his side and in his life.

For me, the romance was 2nd or 3rd to his Mad-Hatter ("Mad as a Hatter") character and the roots of his personality and behavior of those close to him in life.

If you don't want to finish it, just watch the episodes of the reveal and it's aftermath.

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To me, the mad hatter thing felt wrong. I guess i should give it the possibility that it was all well-planned and i missed understanding it. Thanks.

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@ Faye: If Mirae's going undercover with the drug lords and both the boys are concerned about that, then poor Yookyung's not about to get any romantic dates anytime soon.

At this point, I feel like Sejoo's being so obtuse about YK that I wouldn't mind her becoming an evil bitchy second female lead (which she's successfully resisted till now), just so we can shake some sense into the boy!

But now that YK and Oppa know about FMR's identity, are we gonna get EVERYONE running around trying to change each others' destinies?

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Maybe we will have a time skip and a resolution for that. Like I said before, I like this show a lot, maybe even more than it deserves, but I think it would be better if it had decided to go all out romantic and forget the comedy. FMR is a sad character and whenever she pops up things turn a bit darker because of her bitter nature and mystery.

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I actually find YK a lot more special than MR. MR had to be bludgeoned into getting out of her rut, YK made her own choices and own decisions not to be a cubical drone (even though she has been undeservedly badly treated by life in some ways).

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Thanks Gummimochi for the recap.

I really enjoyed that we explored FMR's 'history' a little more. It definitely gave her some much needed depth. I believe she may be regretting a little, but I don't think that will stop her trying to change things. The accident is driving me batty! I have so many theories that.....arghhhh! I'm not sure if she's right to blame him anymore, although oppa seemed to. So I'll eat some brownies to feel better and wait.

I think Shin has changed some. Before I don't believe he would have shared his prize money and gone on the retreat, even if didn't participate much. Baby steps.

Also, he really is turtle time cop! How could he not outrun a woman in high heels? His whining and the security guard wanting to be a paleontologist really cracked me up. :)

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I think Shin's generosity was always there but he was always a bit distant from them. He's always been a fatherly figure to them and thus kinda unable/unwilling to show his weak or human side. So this is kind of like him becoming one of their equals, one of the guys.

I keep thinking Mirae's Choice will be Future Mirae's Choice. I really do. The big choice will be something FMR chooses, not what CMR chooses. Will see.

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Ohh, I like that idea! About it being FMR who will choose. Also, now that I think of it your right about Shin being more fatherly before, now maybe he act like one of the boys. That would be fun to watch.

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I love Se Joo. My heart aches for him, knowing he wouldn't get the girl. </3

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And I do not think other second lead girl is for Se Joo either.

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You're right. The second lead is way too good for Se Joo. She needs someone better not necessarily chaebol as long as he's not in his own imagination world.

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My thoughts exactly. Seju has yet to show he deserves someone as awesome as YK.

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Ahh the more I watched this show the more I convince that there must be two only available possibilities about the identity of the person that died because of Shin according to ajumma.... It's either her oppa (whom I think lil bit make sense since I saw the picture that ajumma post on her window, I mean the picture look very much like the korean reporters post on the newspaper after someone famous found dead, his pose, I meant here) or (brace yourself, beanies) their child..... I think so.

On another note when will we see Yoon Eun Hye appear on Running Man? Please let that happen at least once, as long as Kim Jong Kook still there. I was hoping it'll happen when she'd in Miss You with Park YooChun, but no it didn't. So I'm hoping it'll happen this time around, afterall we've seen so many actors & actresses appears in Running Man to promote their drama/movie... If that happen eventually I believe it will give a boost in the rating number respectively to both show (eventhough I dont think running man can get any bigger than now)... ^^

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Don’t kill me now, but I am really curious why people even ship Seju and Mirae. I mean I am genuinely watching the show from all perspectives. I don’t have an official ship, and I am really trying to understand that loveline, but I only see a platonic relationship, a friendship. There scenes are always the same. Mirae is always thankful for Seju’s support. Seju likes how Mirae is free. Blah, blah. At first they didn’t bother me this much, but now their scenes are such a bore. I always have believed that love is when two people make each other the best version of themselves. With Mirae and Shin, only Shin understands and connects with Mirae at the level of understanding her fears and concerns of the future, as he shares them too. Seju just coddles her and gives her just words of support, while Shin actually makes her dreams come true, like when he read her words at the end of the program. And although we haven’t got much of Yoo Kyung and Seju, he is so much more interesting, honest, admirable, and real when he is around her.

Actually, Seju’s obsession with Mirae is making him unlikeable in my opinion. Don’t get me wrong, I find him way more interesting compared to the typical boring second lead males. But, he just sees her as a toy, something to win because he does not want to lose. He is acting like a spoiled, entitled brat. This is further highlighted in Seju’s scenes with Shin. After getting rejected by Mirae for Shin, Seju’s pride is hurt, and to “one-up” Shin, he throws his rank around. He seriously clings to his chaebol identity as a back-up plan. And this is kind of making him hypocritical in my opinion, because wasn’t he the one who told Yoo Kyung that everybody is equal? And wasn’t he the person who wanted to understand people, unlike his grandma, and that’s why he became a VJ in the first place? His character is very confusing.

Now, the two characters that make the most sense in this drama are Yoo Kyung and Shin. Besides that one episode where Shin was being unreasonably petty, both Yoo Kyung and Shin are both people who are willing to sacrifice their happiness for the sake of the people they love. Even when they know it is all wrong, even when they know it won’t work out, they have the courage and never stop fighting. The ending of this episode just solidified that for me as both Yoo Kyung and Shin stepped up their game. I mean how epic was that “I like Na Mi Rae. Now what are you going to do about it?” More male leads need to be like him. Yoo Kyung has always been amazing in my opinion. She is fighting for the fate she shares with Seju, and I for one am rooting for the girl to get her happy ending, whether it is with Seju or not.

BTW, I just have to give a special shout out to our troll of a time cop. I was so bored in some parts, and he had me rolling on the floor. I don’t care if he is useless and ridiculous because I find him hilarious. Were my eyes deceiving me or was he actually crying along with FMR? Lol he is such a softie. And not only did FMR the AJHUMMA outrun him, but even Yoo Kyung with heels and a skirt catches up to him. He then resorts to sliding down slides, and throwing leaves and rocks to make his escape. He is all sorts of epic.

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Being madly in love and having a good and happy marriage doesn't always go hand in hand. No matter how much FMR loved FKS and vice versa it couldn't stop them having a difficult married life. He was too selfish to see beyond his own grief. A great marriage has that great love but also a deep friendship. Your spouse should be your best friend. KS is too selfish to have a best friend. That is why people r rooting for SJ. He offers her love and friendship.

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I know he offers her friendship, but I don't even think he understands her. How could you be with someone who doesn't understand you like Shin understands Mirae and Yoo Kyung understands Seju. I think it is nice that he is so supportive of Mirae, but that can be taken as a platonic friendship, and not necessarily as a love interest.

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I think SJ is just as selfish as KS. Just in a different way. He is like his grandmother and will run that company as he sees fit because he is in charge. Not that he is a horrible person or anything but he wants KS to fit into this mold that he sees.

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You wrote: "Being madly in love and having a good and happy marriage doesn’t always go hand in hand. "

Sooooooooo true.

Being madly in love is wonderful but if we accept that most marriages in the western world are built on "love" rather than mental logic or even arranged marriages, we might just have to consider the whole "I am madly in love with you therefore you are the one I should marry." It hasn't worked out for a lot of people. Am not saying Se-Joo is more compatible but when you read that many of the people who divorce still love their spouses but simply cannot live with them, it does make one wonder if "being madly in love" is the proper consideration for marriage. Is it possible that another person -- Aegyo girl, for instance-- could have pulled Shin out of his depression while Mirae (Future Mirae) just couldn't?

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While being "madly in love" is hardly a cure-all, I think it is better than NOT being in love and marrying someone you don't really care for.

Being married is not the same as being together - if it were then none of those evil chaebol chairmen would have so many mistresses and illegitimate kids :D

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But there is a middle ground between "being madly in love" and "being with someone you don't care for." You and I had this debate in the "Heirs" thread, I think. I have what you might call a pseudo-arranged marriage in that our parents set us up initially after extensive background research, which is what most people do in our community. Don't get me wrong -we dated, and I wouldn't have married my husband if I didn't care for him. But the level of love and feeling I have for him now is so much greater than when we married. We've been through some terrible times together, and that only strengthened us, because of the person he is, which I knew before because I made a decision based on what I knew about him, not just feelings.

I'm not trying to push for that system for the general public, and I'm not saying that Mirae should choose Se-Joo if she feels nothing for him. But the idea that marrying based only on what you think is love, or "what the heart wants," is somewhat dubious to me. Look at the incredibly high divorce rate in the West. And there are plenty of people who are not chaebols who have affairs; even people who thought they were in love with the spouse they betrayed.

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Hear, hear, Faye!

Lots of romantic wonderful marriages out there which didn't initially start with folks being madly in love.

And why do so many k-drama characters see fortune-tellers to see if their marriages will work out? And if the fortune-teller nixes the marriage....some couples break up. An old custome yet. But it's certainly a balncing of the "true love is ALL we need."

The important thing is that this passion leads to actual liveability.

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Evil chaebol chairmen are like any kind of greedy men out there. They want everything they set their eyes on. Mistresses can sometimes be love but often they are about some guy satisfying his lust. And those women are mistresses because the chaebol doesn't love them enough to want to give up his kingdom and power for mere passion.

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@ Faye - What you call "pseudo arranged" I think is by far the most common nowadays. And in many ways it is really not much different than the numerous dating sites in the US - the only difference is that in once case the parents get them together, and in the other it is a computer database (I am not so sure that BOTH are no mostly computer data driven actually - except that a 3rd party is between the computer matchmaking).

And I have no objection to that. It is the manufactured tropes in dramas that I am objecting to - they are almost always set up as an "all or nothing" type of scenario. Either the heroine is madly in love, or totally not in love at all, ignoring the thousand shades in between min and max love.

The best series on how marriage based only on "mad love" can end in total disaster was very well covered in an older drama series "Phoenix" (I think a 2008? k-drama, available on Viki and DF).

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@Windsun33 - Really? Almost of all my friends outside my "circle" met their spouses either at college, or at parties or something, or through a very casual connected third party. And they did not consider factors like compatibility, goals, etc. that much. Not saying they all had terrible marriages - just that it was a very different approach.

I will have to check out "Phoenix." Thanks for the recommendation.

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But this version of KS has changed, and I think he is a lot more bendable and amenable to moving away from his strict principles and looking at things on a larger scale.

And this version of Mirae has more of a backbone, is more willing to fight for what she wants.

To combine that with love and friendship (which I do think Mirae and KS have--see their prop room scene, the basketball scene, the scene where they are editing), and throw in some backbone and some pliability, then I think that it works.

And who is to say that future Mirae might have also had an unhappy marriage with Se-Joo? What if she did or said something that made him think that she was not the "free" and "innocent" person that he thinks she is? Clearly FMR is not either of these things, so Mirae now is capable of the same. Would that have ended well, either?

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If she's not happy with KS, who will guarantee she'll be happy with Se Joo. He might have money and one sided love, but he's not perfect. Instead of changing partner, why don't she change herself instead?

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Being unhappy with a poor husband who mopes around and makes you take two jobs and allows someone you love to die is not really like being unhappy just because folks aren't compatible. Kim Shin did something awful, piled upon some pretty atrocious selfish behavior...and death was involved. Not sure the equation is really equal.

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Writer: Seju is there so the OTP (Kim Shin-Mirae) can be a bit more interesting. Seriously, if it weren't for Seju, would Kim Shin ever realise his feelings for Mirae and if he wasn't threatened would he have ever made his confession? The OTP's attraction or emotional connection to each other is something hard for me to understand until now, nor do I feel it.

This is what I feel is happening. It's such a waste though of a really good character.

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Sejoo makes Shin want to fight for Mirae, yes. But Sejoo is a foil for some of the other themes in the drama. Sejoo saves the team as Shin also saves the team. Sejoo/KS both have the power/authority issue to deal with with others in the group. Sejoo/Miranda/Mirae all have/had "dreams" they had to give up (or not give up.) Sejoo hides himself from his friends and coworkers. Shin is learning to share his heart. SeJoo has a grandma (and a whole company), Shin is utterly lonely and isolated with no relatives. Shin is tender and supportive, Shin is tender and supportive in the "role" of one who "teaches" both YK and Mirae. It's a good character, i think.