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Grandpas Over Flowers in Spain: Episode 4

EPISODE 4. Broadcast on March 28, 2014.

girlfriday: We return to the train sleeper car from hell, where four grown men are supposed to spend the night packed in like sardines.

javabeans: All I can say is: Thank god for liquor. Because if not for the bar car, I’m pretty sure Il-sub halbae would have exploded.

girlfriday: It’s pretty funny to watch Seo-jin when we rewind a bit to their arrival, because his way of dealing with the halbaes’ anger is to… not deal. He sticks his head in a book and avoids eye contact, and then finds a dining car to run away to, all because he can’t face it.

javabeans: We see the two men silently sipping their drinks, and then Seo-jin suggests a second round, and the show tells us this is the second time they’ve talked in half an hour. It’s funny how later, Seo-jin interviews that he’s pretty comfortable with Il-sub halbae because they’ve got a familiar father-son vibe, and Na PD asks a little incredulously whether he isn’t frustrated at all the silence. Seo-jin just says matter-of-factly that he was raised to be quiet anyway, so it all works for him. Haha. I love that Na PD can’t wrap his head around that concept.

girlfriday: Yeah Seo-jin is really old-school that way, whereas Na PD is more like, How do I fix this? With jokes? Do I beg? I can beg.

javabeans: Like, Na PD is watching this happen while feeling stress, while Seo-jin is thinking, Ahh, this is nice.

girlfriday: Seo-jin thinks this is perfectly normal because this is how he is with his father, which I totally get from having watched plenty of Korean fathers and sons interact, but I’m with Na PD here. It makes ME uncomfortable.

javabeans: Oh, see I feel like Seo-jin. It’s calm and familiar. I don’t have that stress. At least, not in this instance when I know Seo-jin and Il-sub halbae aren’t stressed about it. I love how later Seo-jin is amazed at how much he drank and says, “I don’t remember how I got into bed.” Thankfully the show has footage to show us how he clumsily shoved himself into the top compartment.

girlfriday: Seo-jinnie’s drunk face is priceless. I want it on a t-shirt.

javabeans: Aw, it’s sweet how you see Il-sub halbae tucking Seo-jin in a few minutes later, and then a little while after that Gu halbae takes off Il-sub halbae’s socks for him. Then in the morning it’s the earlybirds, Soon-jae halbae and Geun-hyung halbae, who are up in the breakfast car. Hearing that their dongsaengs were up late drinking, Geun-hyung halbae jokes that they should be cut from the show, and that on the next trip he and Soon-jae hyungnim can go with two ladies. Haha.

girlfriday: After a bleary-eyed morning on the train, they finally arrive in Granada and Seo-jin guides them to their hotel in no time. He gets a little worried about the place judging from the exterior, and we’re reminded of his traumatic experience with that Rainbow place on their first trip.

javabeans: He keeps his calm face on as he checks into their two rooms (one double, one triple) and ushers the halbaes into the elevator… and then sprints like a madman up the stairs to check first. Run, Seo-jinnie, run!

girlfriday: It cracks me up that he races up there to beat them. He opens the door, and eep, it’s a tiny room with three beds crammed in wall-to-wall. It’s basically the exact same setup as Rainbow. Seo-jin gets hilariously avoidy again, and hurriedly runs off before the halbaes can get upset.

javabeans: He ushers them down to breakfast before it ends, then lingers behind with Na PD. After a while, Na PD tells him to go up and rest, and Seo-jin quips, “Do you think going TO the room is resting?”

girlfriday: He decides crashing on the tiny sofa is better, and naps in the breakfast room. A few hours later they head out to the Alhambra, and already Na PD is asking Seo-jin for money because they pre-paid for tickets. Seo-jin just turns to Soon-jae halbae, “Shall we not go inside, teacher?” Pre-paying for tickets was your first mistake, Na PD.

javabeans: Ha, the writer prods Seo-jin to explain “for the viewers” what Alhambra is, and what the palace is like. He retorts, “What do I know? They can look it up on the internet.” The PD tries to prod him for a reaction, saying, “Wow, the palace is really beautiful.” Seo-jin just sighs to himself, “Where are we going to sleep tomorrow? Augh.”

girlfriday: She keeps trying to tell him stuff about the history of the place to get a reaction, but he just keeps asking about their next destination and muttering to himself about the drive and where they’ll eat. Finally she’s like, “Are you listening to me?” He doesn’t even answer. Lol, and then the same thing is happening over in Il-sub halbae’s corner, where another writer is explaining things to him and he’s clearly giving obligatory nods and not listening.

javabeans: They’re explaining to the halbaes that the courtyard space is designed for concerts and was acoustically engineered so you could hear from one end to the other. Cue random scream from Gu halbae, who’s testing it out, only nobody else was expecting it so they all jump and an employee has to tell him not to shout.

girlfriday: I love that Soon-jae halbae discreetly backs away, embarrassed. Then everyone else gets curious and gathers in the center spot, and Il-sub halbae suggests farting to see how that’ll carry. Pfft. Then they gather for a group picture, where Seo-jinnie tries to get away with not making heart hands over his head, and gets ratted out for it. All it takes is one silent look from Soon-jae halbae and he complies sheepishly.

javabeans: They head inside for more sightseeing, and I’m cracking up every time the camera goes to Seo-jin and he’s still fixated on how they’ll make it to Lisbon tomorrow and how the drive will be and where they’ll stop to eat.

girlfriday: Na PD tells Seo-jin that he’ll like visiting the harem’s quarters, and Seo-jin insists that he doesn’t and would never step foot inside a place like that. Na PD: “It’s only one woman for you?” Seo-jin: “Of course.” Na PD: “You’re going to get struck by lightning.”

javabeans: Seo-jin wanders to one of those photo op walls where you stick your head in and take a funny photo, and it’s funny that the show is all, Surely he wouldn’t find this interesting… SURELY and then is incredulous when he gives them the funny photo op anyway.

girlfriday: He’s clearly not above doing things for a laugh, because he keeps asking, “Is it funny? Is it?”

javabeans: Then he sits with Il-sub halbae who requests a bottle of wine for later, and he’s all, “Maybe two bottles would be better,” and then one sentence later says, “I’ll buy three then.”

girlfriday: Il-sub halbae says he needs to cut down on the liquor, and the writer points out that they’re buying wine. Il-sub halbae: “Wine isn’t liquor.” Hahaha. Well if wine doesn’t count then I’ll be on the no-liquor diet too. Gu halbae is extra eager today, and wants to see every inch of the palace and even climbs up the tower for the view.

javabeans: As they all head out after seeing the palace, they head to the cars, which is when our scary thriller music starts and portends ominous things. For now the group settles in a cafe to detail tomorrow’s plans, which are packed: first a two-and-a-half-hour train ride to Seville, then a five-hour car ride to Lisbon. Eek.

girlfriday: It gets worse when the group splits on what they want to do. Even if it’s a tough trip, Soon-jae halbae and Gu halbae want to go, while Geun-hyung halbae and Il-sub halbae are vehemently opposed to an entire day spent in a car.

javabeans: They also don’t want to force Seo-jin to drive all day, since they don’t know the roads and it could be dangerous. Seo-jin says he’s fine to drive, but the conversation gets more and more involved as the group argues the pros and cons. Na PD suggests that Soon-jae halbae make the executive decision because either way they’ll have to make reservations for the night somewhere, and he decides no. Aw, he’s operating on the principle that if one person is uncomfortable with it, it’s better not to do it.

girlfriday: He does the leader thing, which is smart, but poor Gu halbae is clearly sad about not going. He was especially interested in Lisbon when they were planning the trip, so it’s especially disappointing for him.

javabeans: We even get this whole extended sad music video montage of him basically saying goodbye to the idea of going to Lisbon. Haha, I love how Seo-jin heads out to find a supermarket and wonders laughingly, “Despite knowing this is how things are going to end up, why do you suppose I didn’t learn how to cook?”

girlfriday: Lol, probably to keep Na PD happy?

javabeans: He finds a grocery store and starts shopping. “This is lettuce, right?” Caption: “CABBAGE (which he thinks is lettuce).”

girlfriday: He stands in the produce section just scratching his head and wondering what goes in soybean paste soup, and asks what time it is in Korea. When he hears it’s two in the morning, he sighs. PD: “Were you going to call your mom?” Seo-jin sighs yes.

javabeans: Na PD pesters, “Hyung, what if you try making some pumpkin pancakes? I wanna eat them all of a sudden.” Seo-jin: “Imma kick you.”

girlfriday: I just love Seo-jinnie’s market questions. “Is tofu refrigerated?” “What would happen if I put hamburger in soybean paste?”

javabeans: Writer: “Aren’t you feeling ambitious? Like suddenly you want to do a really good job?” Seo-jin shakes his head no: “I dislike myself for asking these things.” He makes it back to the hotel, where he at least has the stash of food his mother sent. She has these instructions written on it too, which is cute. “Do a good job!”

girlfriday: I find it more entertaining when Seo-jin has to cook in a hotel bathroom. It just adds to the ridiculous factor.

javabeans: Meanwhile, the crew is rifling through the food stash swiping containers. Ack!

girlfriday: They’re full-on having a picnic with all his mom’s food, while Seo-jin is crying over the onion he’s cutting in the bathroom sink.

javabeans: This is the saddest cooking sequence I’ve ever seen. I mean, he’s doing a good job with what he’s got, but he’s got so little to work with.

girlfriday: Na PD watches as Seo-jin dumps an entire potato in boiling water and complains that it’s potato stew now, so then Seo-jin starts scooping them back out. Then he puts them back. And then two seconds later, he scoops them out again. I have no idea what he’s doing. He looks up at Na PD with this serious look and asks if he puts the soybean paste in now, and Na PD swears he doesn’t know either.

javabeans: He asks the VJ for directions, because the VJ seems to marginally know more about jjigae-cooking, but not a whole lot, so ultimately it really just feels like the blind leading the blind here.

girlfriday: Ha, the VJ just watches as Seo-jin puts way too much paste in, and quietly whispers to Na PD that it’s too much. Tell the guy making the jjigae!

javabeans: Even so, they mock him for his “soybean water” because it’s somehow not right yet, and Seo-jin adds even more paste. But suddenly something magically happens because he tastes it and looks surprised: “It’s okay.” Na PD is skeptical, but even he concedes that it tastes decent.

girlfriday: The halbaes come and they eat on the floor, which always makes food more delicious for some reason. It’s like a camp picnic, complete with wine in styrofoam cups.

javabeans: Meanwhile, the staffer who stole most of Seo-jin’s food (the show nicknames him “Hyena Bong”) takes the huge bag to share with the staffers, and on the way he heaps Seo-jin’s mother with praise (speaking to the camera), thanking her for the food and saying that he has to walk a lot and keep up his energy and therefore needs to eat. Then the staffers have their own picnic party with most of Seo-jin’s food.

girlfriday: Once dinner ends Seo-jinnie just collapses and starts whining to Na PD not to make him cook anymore

javabeans: The next morning they head out in the rain to take their train to Seville, and Na PD pesters Seo-jin during the ride to make him some kimchi pancakes. Seo-jin sticks to the “I don’t know how” line, while Na PD tells him how eeeeeasy it is and how all you need to do is mix a little flour with kimchi, and Seo-jin retorts, “I don’t even know what flour looks like!” Na PD: “Flour is white.” Seo-jin: “I don’t know, I can’t buy it, what if I buy baking soda instead? Nope.” Na PD: “Don’t you know what flour is in English?” Seo-jin: “Nope!”

girlfriday: THIS is why Seo-jin doesn’t learn how to cook. The less you know, the more you can deny.

javabeans: So then Na PD decides he’ll have to ask the halbaes if they want kimchi pancakes, and I think Seo-jin just slapped him. Ha. His hand flies offscreen but you hear a smack, haha.

girlfriday: I can’t believe we didn’t get a full shot of that. Make them reenact it!

javabeans: He tells them they’re sleeping, and when Na PD rises to go ask them Seo-jin shoves him back into his seat. The writer is totally being the devil on his shoulder, saying she wants to do their next variety show together about Seo-jinnie cooking. He barks that there’s no way he’d do that, and she points out, “But it’s fun because it wouldn’t be a program where the participant enjoys cooking!” He orders her not to mention this to his agent and sits back in resignation when she jokingly tells Na PD that they’ve all agreed to do it. He grumbles, “I’m gonna work really hard to ruin your show! I’ll make sure it’s no fun at all!”

girlfriday: If only he knew how that just makes it fun for everyone else.

javabeans: The problem is, he can totally tank the idea Na PD sells to him, but Na PD will just take that and turn it into something else that’s more brilliant.

girlfriday: He sits there writing the theme song already: “King of cooking, king of cooking, Seo-jinnie is the king of cooking~!” Lol.

javabeans: Then we get this whole mock teaser for the show, done up all sleek and professional-like, with (old footage of) Seo-jin announcing on tvN News that he’s doing a new cooking show, and cut together to look like he’s a real reality show contestant.

girlfriday: Hahaha. This is hilarious. It looks real. The group arrives in Seville and Seo-jin goes to get a rental car, and is told that they only have manual available. Uh-oh, remember what happened last time?

javabeans: Ack! This gives me flashbacks to being in France with my dad trying to drive a stick (which he learned once, like, twenty years prior) and sliding backwards down hills at red lights.

girlfriday: Seo-jin pulls out all the stops (dimples, compliments, the works), but the clerk can’t find him an automatic car. Suffering it is.

javabeans: From the looks of it, next week will have plenty of that. There’ll be lots of police, dead batteries, and wandering in store for us with “The Rental Car From Hell.”

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Uuuu,, Fun!

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Anyone tell me where i can see the series! This looks so much fun and i love the granpas.

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You can watch for free on Hulu subbed. This and Noonas Over Flowers :)

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Thanks !

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thanks!

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Does anyone know how to watch this on Hulu when a video ad, with sound, is playing at the same time? How do you listen to two things at once? Is there a way to turn off the sound on the ad? Thx.

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I've been asking that since the first season TT.TT

Actually, Hulu might sub it later. They subbed some of the earlier seasons.

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That last picture of him. It kills me. LOLLL

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Yeah, like he's looking down The Road To Hell! so funny

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"Your English is very good" won't get you an automatic car, Seo-jinnie! HAHAHA

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I was vastly amused when he started flashing his dimples and poured in the compliments.. :)

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Wow, this series is fun!
I fully recommend this series. Also, NOF.
Actually anything from Na PD is bound to be funny. Lol.

Now I would request you all to help me.
Can any kind soul suggest me where to watch it with eng subs?
Hulu isn't available in my country.

I would be really grateful if someone helped me out.
Thank you :)

PS - I want season 1 n 2 too!

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you can install a browser attachment that can go around the location barrier. I use Media Hint.

That's how I've been having my GOF fix..

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OMG, it actually works, thanks so much!

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The tucking in by Il Sub Halbae for Seo Jinnie is just too sweet for words! That is so father-son relationship.

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I'm enjoying this from your recaps. How much more if it were in action. Unfortunately, no geographic access to it. Can you imagine Seo jinnie as a husband? That'll be one reality show he'll probably excel at.

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i'll be first in cue to0 watch for PD Na and Seo Jin cooking show....hmmmmm since its a cooking show can they make Seung gi the taster so that all foods will really seem delicious...even if it is actually not good...

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"... and Il-sub halbae suggests farting to see how that’ll carry. Pfft."

Was the sound effect intentional or a Freudian slip? :D

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Poor Seo-jinnie, I think he couldn't enjoy the trip properly because of the constant worrying over food, lodging and transportation. I feel like he's capable of arranging everything that the halbaes just depend on him on that.

Also, I wonder why they get such small rooms. In NOF, the acommodations are spacious and scenic that I was surprised they could stay in those places and not blow their budget. Also, in GoF season 1, they stayed in a pretty nice Swiss hotel (which looks quite pricey). Does GoF get their budget reduced this time?

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Does GoF get their budget reduced this time?

Yes.

Refer to episode 1 wherein Na PD cons the elderly.

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Yeah while I like this season so far, it's really all about Seo Jin trying to find food and accommodations. I want to see more of Spain and less of the staffers stealing his food, or Na PD trying to screw Seo Jin over (I mean a little is funny, but we're missing out on things! Lisbon!)

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That's LETTUCE! Seo jin is right TT.TT this episode and the last one with the captions making fun of him and it's clearly lettuce. We bought it (in Spain) in that form sometimes and the cabbage not.

Suchc a rant but i was watching the episode and I was like " not with the cabbage vs lettuce again, he is totally right and not the staff"

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Il-sub halbae: “Wine isn’t liquor.”

This man's a genius! It's like saying: it's not chocolate if it's dark chocolate!

They should publish a pocket (travel guide) book of the halbaes' words of wisdom. Complete with pictures of how to distinguish cabbage from lettuce.

As for Seo-jinnie, he really is a genie with food. How does he manage to make it taste good despite not knowing what the heck he's doing?

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That's so funny. He doesn't know how flour looks like but can compare it to baking soda....:D

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I think he's just trying to establish plausible deniability in case of a cooking fail. And the comment about baking soda was a shot across Na PD's bow.

Clever boy. There's a lot of mischief in him that I hope we get to see.

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4 of us went on a similar itinerary a few years ago. We stayed at Paradores thru out Spain. They r govt run hotels in castles or historical buildings. They are wonderful. It'd have been nice if NaPD had treated them to a stay in one, even for a night, after their having to suffer thru the tiny train cabins and 3 tiny beds to a room in a 2 star hotel! I feel sorry for the old men and for Seo Jin.

And it doesn't make any sense to go directly from Granada to Lisbon. Sevilla has a great deal to offer too. They should definitely go to a flamenco show in the evening.

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I can totally feel the love/hate dynamics between NaPD and Seojin in this episode. The potshots and replies are just classic. I love the pancake goading bit, it's hilarious! I wish NaPD would go on a trip with Seojinnie and Seunggi in tow!

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Oh, I enjoy these recaps. If I'm feeling down, these always cheer me up!

Seo-jinnie is so funny! I just adore him. He makes me laugh all the time!

Thanks for the recap, JB and GF!

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I know Na PD's intentions were to make the show less about sight seeing and more about the travel hardships but I find myself enjoying the Spain one less than season 1 and 2 because of that. One of the reasons it became so popular was because it was so heartwarming seeing the halbaes bond and have a good time and get to travel and see and do things they never got to in their younger years. I'm bias but I could watch them being happy all day and be entertained. As much as Seo Jin cooking and being stressed is entertaining, I can't help but wish they didn't spend half an episode on it and only a small proportion on the sights they went to and their reactions.

My favourite part was Gu halbae climbing the stairs to the top by himself to get a look at the view, these are the moments I watch for.

I also wouldn't mind if Il Sub halbae didn't come back for the next seasons. I think he would be fine with that too. I try and try to understand him but the show really isn't showcasing his best side and it's tiring to watch his indifference and complaints time after time. Seo Jin has an excuse, he doesn't besides his leg. I love him as an actor but in real life, I've travelled with people like him in my family and friends and it's part of the travelling together experience, I understand that but it is also a dampened experience so I can't put away those feelings when I watch him not even try and show interest all the while everyone caters to him. Then he does something like tucking in Seo Jin and makes me melt all over. Damn this addictive show haha

Thanks for the recap girls :)

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The tucking in scene was too cute. And it's heartwarming to see a much younger and more energetic man make extra effort to spend time with him, doing the things he likes...even if its only sitting and drinking.

I've been increasingly sympathetic to Il Sub this series. It seems like he's in a spiral of habits that leave him feeling really lousy most of the time. It explains why he gets tired and annoyed so much...and why he needs so much 'medicine'. Part of me wants to contact his management company and offer to send our poor little baby bear to a good spa to re-set his health. He seems like he'd be loads of fun if he felt well. :-)

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I think the combination of bad leg, bad health, too much drinking, smoking and heavy weight compared to the other halbaes is really dragging his whole enjoyment and experience. It's a shame that it has to drag down the travel aspects for the other halbaes too but I understand why and they understand why so it is sweet.

That being said, it does make him super incompatible with the concept of the show. He seems like he'd be so nice and fun, but only in a bar or restaurant somewhere in Korea, sitting down, drinking soju. Even if his health issues weren't a problem, we've seen that he has little to no interest of the world outside Korea and so this free trip is really wasted on him in that sense. I too feel like it wouldn't be a big loss if he stopped coming, I reckon he'd actually prefer it and just meet up with his hyungs in Korea. I've been wishing they'd get another halbae that has a big personality like Il Sub halbae but is also capable of appreciating the different culture and environment.

I know it is variety and conflicts are needed but I definitely think they can still get that plenty and when it comes down to it, I watch for the halbaes enjoyment and their positive experience is more important to me than created hardships :)

But agree, the tucking Seo Jin in and then Gu halbae taking off Il Sub halbaes shoes and socks was so awwwwww!!

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My problem is that they spend more time with Il Sub halbae's reactions of indifference as opposed to the other halbaes reactions of interest and enjoyment. Gu halbae being super energetic and curious and going all the way up the stairs by himself warmed my cold cold heart.

I also find the Spain trip not doing it for me as much as the other 2, due to the shift in concept to make it harder on everyone. Seo Jin cooking and shopping is fun but half an ep on it last week was a bit much, it seemed like they went out sightseeing for two seconds and came home and I was like already?

I want moments like the awe of the Strasbourg cathedral, the walking arm in arm and discussing their lives at Champ Elsee, racing down suspended bridges and eating ordering crepes, I want to see more of them imersing themself in the culture. If I wanted to watch them being put through hardships on purpose I could just watch 1 night 2 days or running man where the point IS to have hardships. There are plenty of travel related issues that arise without Na PD forcing it on Seo Jin like the manual car.

More travelling and sightseeing footage please Na PD! I want to live vicariously through these grandpas as I drown in uni work :(

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I see what you mean.

Another thing that I've thought has been a drag on this season is the editorial exposition they've been forcing into the show. Those segments are boring and seem to be done for the sole purpose of re-imagining the past. The theme started to emerge in Noonas and has gotten stronger in this series. Makes me wonder if they accepted a certain type of investor money that had strings attached.

The Grandpas have been around long enough to sense if the emphasis of the show isn't so much about them anymore. They do seem awfully withdrawn since the first episode. :-(

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Agreed. Did I need to see more of Seo Jin struggling to cook Na PD? and the extended shots of the staff stealing the food? I wanted to see more of Soon Jae halbae expecting everything, Geun Hyung halbae taking pictures etc. Did we really have to stay with Seo Jin and Il Sub halbae being uninterested. Yes I get it, it's not like there not uninterested and stressed in Seo Jin's case in every other scene of this show.

The character moments are so important, and that absolutely why I, and I suspect most of Korea loved the first season: Grandpas travelling!! One of my favourite sequences had no words at all, it was in ep 4 on their last day in Strasbourg and they just wandered around, feed animals, watched the boats and waved to people, they were all relaxed and enjoying themselves and I find myself always watching those moments of them being happy and in awe as opposed to the other stuff.

I have really felt the change tonally this season and it's making me sad because I was SO happy when it came back and now I feel like we hardly ever see the halbaes except for Il Sub halbae's petulance. It was so disappointing to see them decide against Lisbon even though it was more practical. I know it was half half and I expected Il Sub halbae to object but noooo Geun Hyun halbae!! That being said it is true Il Sub halbaes personality, health and habits are dragging down his hyungs. I get the sense if he wasn't there then Geun Hyun halbae would have gone with what his hyungs wanted and they wouldn't have regretted it, Lisbon is beautiful!

I too am hoping to get to see more of the halbaes travelling and enjoying, less of Il Sub halbae complaining/Seo Jin cooking/Staff. But they can keep Na PD and Seo Jin bickering in :D

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Oh I wish I could give a thumb-up to each well-made point in your comment. That would make 5 of them! ;-)

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Oh thank you for your comment. I very much share the same feelings. I loved the first two seasons too. The show managed to be both heart-warming and entertaining at the same time, while giving the viewers a vicarious travel experience to some of the most beautiful parts of the world and history.

And I love the show because of the grandpas. They are so good at their jobs but I saw genuine people enjoying the experience and bonding with each together on the trip. They were not acting or posing in front of the cameras but just being themselves. I found myself especially loving and respecting Gu and Soon-jae halbaes for their warm and forgiving personalities. And the cutest & funniest moments are definitely from the halbaes. I found the show and maybe the recaps to be spending a bit too much footage on Seo Jin and his "sufferings". There are certainly memorable moments with Seo Jin, but he is by no means the star of the series.

I also found Il Sub halbae a bit disappointing, and more so in Spain. He (or the show) paid too much attention to his dislike of walking, inconvenient transportation, and touring in general... We don't need to be reminded of how much he's the nagging "baby halbae" all the time..

But still, I love the show and I find myself eagerly checking for new (subbed) episodes.

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ha! They're trekking over to Portugal, but failed to include it in the title. Which makes me wonder...would it be true to Asians 'at night, all cats are black' or 'between dog and wolf' as is the norm for people over here to call everything asian 'chinese'.

Portugal used to be Spain, true. But Conde Duque de Olivares sold it or gifted it to the Bragança family. And ever since then, the portuguese have been quite adamant that they are not spanish- I guess some will be irked as the Ojakkgyo Brother's actor having to use an outdated sleeper train to go down to Granada-when they could've AVE'd it in 4 odd hous Tee hee hee :)

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When Portugal was born as a nation, Spain wasn't even born and there were not even clues of their existence yet. They were different kingdoms ;)

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