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It’s Okay, It’s Love: Episode 4

This hour is packed with interesting revelations about our hero and his past, two related things you’d think would come in a packaged deal but simply just don’t—at least not in this case study. It makes for a compelling mystery as we delve deeper and deeper into who Jae-yeol really is, especially when the show drops just enough hints to keep us on our toes. I gotta say, it’s both fun and unnerving to have a show like this flex some muscle when it comes to messing with our collective head space, because while plenty of dramas have characters with skewed perceptions of reality, It’s Okay, It’s Love takes it a step further by asking us to reevaluate our notion of what’s real versus what isn’t. Like I said: fun, but also a little unnerving.

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EPISODE 4 RECAP

Jae-yeol keeps the kiss short and sweet, and smirks at Hae-soo after he pulls away before he turns his head ever so slightly to the side, expecting to be slapped. Hah.

Hae-soo doesn’t take the bait, and plays it cool instead by asking how many times Jae-yeol’s been slapped in his life. “I never counted, but maybe thirty times?” he all but shrugs. Hae-soo slaps him: “Now it’s thirty-one.”

When she attempts to storm out, Jae-yeol restrains her and pushes her against the wall before hitting the light switch. Off. On. He takes a step back while still keeping her lightly trapped between his body and the wall, but it’s worth noting that Hae-soo’s not completely freaking out. And he’s not trying anything funny.

Instead, he tells her a strange sort of folk tale about a dark cave where light hadn’t shined in over a thousand years, and how the villagers near the cave feared it: “Just like you.” Off.

He goes on to say how the villagers thought that it would take a thousand years to rid the cave of darkness, “But it only takes one moment for the light to shine into that cave, like this…”

On. Except it’s not the light switch this time, but a lighter Jae-yeol ignites near their faces to reveal that his is only inches from her. Omo. Whoa. Okay, point proven.

As Hae-soo clenches her fist and her lips shut, Jae-yeol laughs as he steps away from her. Off. “Even if you haven’t been able to love for the past thirty years…” On. “And the love you put effort into for three-hundred days has ended… It’s okay.” Off.

“To feel love again,” he continues as he draws nearer to her, “You only need one moment, friend.” On. Again, he’s so close to her she can feel his breath. I love that her reaction is to blow out the lighter as she snorts at his use of the word “friend.”

Surprisingly, she seems much more at ease as she plops down onto his couch to take a swig of her drink. They even sit closer together as he jokes about how moist her lips were—but he doesn’t miss the chance to drive home his point that she should just feel when it comes to love, instead of planning and agonizing over it.

He picks up her phone to find a picture of her with not PD Choi, and she snatches it back while declaring that “He’s my man.” Jae-yeol can’t get any further explanation from her when she suddenly feels nauseous, and it’s hilarious how he runs to stop her from vomiting his bathroom by clamping his hand over her mouth. “Not here! Swallow it!” HAHA.

Jae-yeol drags her down to the lobby to use their bathroom, but is stopped at the sight of Kang-woo standing there all bloody, bruised, and barefoot. Hae-soo seems confused when he asks Kang-woo what happened to him, causing Jae-yeol to remind her that he’s not talking to her.

“Noona, you’re pretty!” Kang-woo declares with a smile. “I’m this author’s friend.” Hae-soo doesn’t pay attention to him (or see him) because she’s too busy trying not to vomit, which has Jae-yeol hastily rushing to the bathroom as he throws back over his shoulder that he’ll meet Kang-woo after.

Back in Jae-yeol’s apartment, Hae-soo tries to drunkenly get herself together so she can go home—she’s afraid to crash at his place after that kiss. Her solution? To set up her phone to record video while she sleeps, so she can be sure nothing untoward happens to her.

Jae-yeol meets Kang-woo outside only to furiously throw money at him and order him to go to the hospital. “I told you to run away. I told you to run away if your dad ever tried to beat you again!”

When Kang-woo meekly protests that he can’t because of his mom, Jae-yeol doesn’t change his stance, adding that Kang-woo should take his mom away with him.

He has little patience when Kang-woo tries broaching the topic of his new novel, because he knows that it’ll either be about him killing Kang-woo or Kang-woo killing him. Kang-woo tries to eke out that it’s not like that as Jae-yeol storms off, but he at least calls Tae-yong up to take care of the kid.

As Jae-yeol returns home to find Hae-soo sleeping on the floor, Tae-yong goes where Jae-yeol ordered him but can’t find Kang-woo anywhere.

The next morning, Hae-soo beelines it out of his apartment with mussed clothes while Jae-yeol watches from the window: “She gets cuter by the day.” He ends finds her battery-dead phone where she left it.

Soo-kwang seems to be the only one concerned that Hae-soo and Jae-yeol didn’t come home last night, whereas her unni and Sunbae Jo would be glad if something happened between them.

He confronts Jae-yeol the second he shows up to the cafe, only for Jae-yeol to surprise him with the honest truth regarding Hae-soo: “We drank together and kissed. Then I got slapped.” Sunbae Jo’s reaction is opposite to Soo-kwang’s, because he wants to hear all the details at dinner. Ha.

Over the phone, Tae-yong tells Jae-yeol about how he couldn’t find whoever-it-was last night and expresses his suspicions about what Kang-woo really wants from him. How does Jae-yeol know he isn’t lying about his family situation?

He almost loses it when Jae-yeol claims that Kang-woo just wants friendship, as he rails against Jae-yeol’s gullibility: “He’s just using you because you have a soft heart!” Jae-yeol: “Like you?” Burn.

Jae-yeol talks to Mama Ok-ja next, worried about her visiting Jae-bum in prison because it could mean she likes his hyung more than him. Of course she’s not going to play favorites, and merely says that Jae-bum has no one else but her.

At the hospital, Hae-soo and Doctor Lee visit a female patient who thinks she’s holding her baby when all she’s holding is air. All the doctors greet the invisible infant, which leaves one of the residents confused—why would they pretend like that? This gets him chastised by his buddy, who tsks that he doesn’t know a thing about psychiatry.

Jae-yeol returns home home to find PD Choi waiting outside, because he wants to get his things from Hae-soo’s room. Just to make sure, Jae-yeol snaps a picture of everything he’s taking for Hae-soo later, and dogs PD Choi’s every step around the house.

He questions why PD Choi is taking Hae-soo’s clothes, only for Choi to growl that they’re his. Which makes it funny when he starts throwing some of her bras into the bag, only for Jae-yeol to remark, “Ah, I guess you must’ve had matching underwear.” HAH.

PD Choi gives Jae-yeol the evil eye when he picks up a call from Hae-soo and familiarly calls her “Hae-soo-ya,” only to become further incensed when Jae-yeol explains that he and Hae-soo use banmal because they’re donggap (same age friends).

Even though Jae-yeol’s tone is friendly, hers is terse as she tells him to send her phone to the hospital stat. Jae-yeol pretends like he’s still talking to her even after she hangs up, all, “I’ll bring your phone!”

PD Choi finally snaps when Jae-yeol asks him about the panties he’s taking, even though Jae-yeol’s confusion at Choi’s sudden outburst makes it seem like he’s missed another important social cue. Was he not trying to make him jealous? Or is he just feigning ignorance this time?

Regardless, Jae-yeol refuses to take any of PD Choi’s soapbox crap about how he won’t let Jae-yeol use and dispose of Hae-soo like he probably does with all his women by asking, “What are you going to do if I keep her for a long time? For a very, very long time?”

Eventually he just disappears into the house to shut out PD Choi’s incessant declarations on how he’s not going to let things with Hae-soo end like this, no matter what Jae-yeol says or does.

Soo-kwang spies a high school student letting herself into the house like she owns it, and we realize that they know each other when she flippantly asks if he’s mad she ignored his calls. (She’s also the student who asked Jae-yeol to buy cigarettes for her.) Whatever her ties to the house are, we’ll come to know her as OH SO-NYEO (Lee Sung-kyung).

During his next therapy session with Sunbae Jo, Jae-bum continues his odd trend of talking about the laws of gravity and physics, which seems to be his way of avoiding anything more serious.

At least Sunbae Jo engages him this time by asking if he dyes his hair, to which Jae-bum replies that his hair turned white after he got locked up. Their talk then turns to a prisoner who Jae-bum claims lied about having schizophrenia in order to gain leniency, causing him to question whether all psychiatrists are hacks.

To Jae-bum’s surprise, Sunbae Jo is able to read the prisoner in a second, and points out proof that he’s lying to Jae-bum. Furthermore, he adds that while prisoners may dream of fooling psychiatrists for reduced sentences, it’s impossible for them to lie when administered sodium amytal (“truth serum”).

Jae-bum makes sure to memorize the name of the substance, and muses about how he’d like to inject his mom and his little brother with it… before mimicking how he’d stab them right in the neck. Great job, Sunbae Jo.

Outside the prison, Mama Ok-ja thanks Sunbae Jo for all his help with her son before rushing inside as soon as Tae-yong tells her that Jae-bum actually wants to see her this time. He won’t talk to her, but Mama Ok-ja doesn’t care—she’s just thankful to be able to see his face.

After counseling the genitalia-drawing patient’s mother now that her son is being released, Hae-soo reassures the woman’s nervous son that he’s not incurable as long as he has the determination to get better. Plus, he has a psychiatrist like her on his side.

Hae-soo then gets a call from Jae-yeol (on one of the residents’ phones) that she can come get her phone from the broadcast station, prompting the resident to wonder if the two of them are an item.

While Jae-bum starts doing extra work in prison to secure an early release, Hae-soo works with a patient so afraid of germs that he wears gloves and washes the skin off his hands by having him touch garbage.

When he expresses his fear, Hae-soo urges him to just try it… lightly. She catches herself using the same words that Jae-yeol said to her before the kiss, and even uses the same logic and tactics Jae-yeol used to help her with her patient. (Minus the romantic aspect, obviously.)

Hae-soo gets her first chance to go to the broadcasting station for her phone later that night, only to find Jae-yeol’s DJ booth surrounded by adoring fangirls. She scoffs when he talks about “real love” in his oh-so-soothing radio voice as she wonders whether a player like him even knows what love is.

Jae-yeol catches her gaze through the glass walls, and just smiles at her as she makes the universal hand signal for “phone.” All the girls near her scream when that million watt smile is sent their way.

He has her phone sent out to her, where she finds a text from PD Choi asking for some of her time. But she can’t help but smile when Jae-yeol makes a few crowd-pleasing gestures, nor can she stop herself from staring. Who can blame her?

Just then, Sunbae Jo calls her to talk about how he heard that she and Jae-yeol kissed, and how using desensitization methods like that on her makes Jae-yeol almost as good as a doctor.

Even though he thinks it’s a good thing for Hae-soo to keep at it (kissing) until she’s no longer afraid, Hae-soo’s expression grows dark. She is NOT happy that Jae-yeol kissed and told, and texts him as much: “Is my anxiety disorder funny to you? Don’t live like that. Touch me again like you did last night, and you’re dead!”

“Still, my heart fluttered when you were sleeping last night… Understood,” the cheeky bastard texts back. She reads it and mutters to herself that he must be itching for a beating as she locks gazes with Jae-yeol through the glass.

He seems mildly surprised when the man from Hae-soo’s cellphone background shows up to collect her, YOON-CHUL, the one she described as “her man.” As she leaves with him, Jae-yeol muses that she has quite the interesting life with PD Choi and “her man.”

After Yoon-chul drops Hae-soo off at her parents’ restaurant, she’s faced with prying questions about her love life—after all, her unni told them she and Jae-yeol were an item. She flatly denies any romantic involvement with him.

You can tell Hae-soo is uncomfortable when Mom dotes on her impaired father so lovingly, but it gets even worse for her when she has to field questions about her intimacy phobia.

Apparently, this is the first time Mom is hearing about it, and she seems genuinely concerned that her daughter is still a virgin as she urges her to just do it with anyone. Because that’s the kind of advice that never backfires.

While busing home, Hae-soo watches the recording from last night, wondering how she started on the floor but woke up on the bed. Then she sees Jae-yeol entering the room while she was passed out…

…Only to watch as he cleaned her up, carried her to bed, tucked her in, and kept watch at her bedside while DJ-ing her dreams. She almost seems disappointed when watching him disappear into the bathroom to spend the night there. (Or does he spend every night there?)

Hae-soo gets home to find Sunbae Jo, Soo-kwang, and the high school student who just walked into their house and pilfered Hae-soo’s bracelet earlier, So-nyeo. Apparently she’s got a bit of a social disorder and is a counseling patient of Sunbae Jo’s, and if one thing’s clear, it’s that Soo-kwang doesn’t like her one bit.

But when Hae-soo asks how So-nyeo got into their house, she answers that the door was open… and then claims it was because Jae-yeol told her she was pretty and invited her.

I love how he looks legitimately bewildered when they all turn on him, but answers honestly that yes, he did call her pretty. Hae-soo orders So-nyeo to stay while she gives him a talking-to, but not before Soo-kwang tears into him for hitting on a minor. Jae-yeol’s not in the mood to take his crap today.

“I told her she was pretty because she was,” Jae-yeol tells Hae-soo. “I never asked her to come over, and you got your bracelet back.” He doesn’t see what problem—can’t they just send her on her way?

“You’re the problem,” Hae-soo stresses. She spouts the same point that Soo-kwang did about So-nyeo being a minor, and asks if he hits on anything with a skirt and kisses whoever he wants.

“You slapped me on the face for that one, so we’re even,” he counter-argues. But he won’t take her accusation that he treats minors as anything but minors, and proves it by calling the police to report a bracelet thief in their house.

He grabs Hae-soo by the wrist when she tries to stop him, and isn’t gentle when he lets go, either: “Believe people when they’re trying to say something! Are you relieved now that she’s going to get picked up by the cops?” “I am!” Hae-soo replies defiantly.

After calling the police to say that the last call was a prank call, Hae-soo guesses what Sunbae Jo is going to say before he says it and pre-answers: “No.” She doesn’t want to play doctor to So-nyeo, she just wants her, Sunbae Jo, and Soo-kwang to go to Yoon-chul’s concert tomorrow and have a nice time.

While Sunbae Jo heads to the prison on an emergency(ish) call about Jae-bum’s emotional state, Hae-soo watches as Jae-yeol bolts from the house like there’s a fire—but he didn’t get the same call as Sunbae Jo. It was Kang-woo who called.

Kang-woo’s knuckles are bloody even though his smile couldn’t be any bigger as he tells Jae-yeol that he finally hit his father to protect his mother. “Like a man, without fear. My father was so shocked, he left the house… because his nose started bleeding.”

This last bit rids Kang-woo of his smile, so Jae-yeol pulls him into a hug and pats him on the back. “Now he won’t be able to look down on me,” Kang-woo says into his shoulder. “I did it… without fear. Father…”

Jae-yeol’s eyes well with tears as he stops Kang-woo before he can finish his sentence: “You didn’t attack your father. You defended yourself. You just defended yourself from his attack.”

Sunbae Jo and Jae-bum sit down for their session as they normally do, even though it’s the dead of night. “My dreams… are reality,” Jae-bum begins, as a hazy flashback shows a young boy holding out something sharp as a man falls onto it and him.

But then we find out who it was when Jae-bum says: “My dongsaeng killed our stepfather. Even my mom saw it. She definitely saw it.” In flashback, we see the unintentional murder scene play out, and then a court scene where a young Jae-bum was on trial for his stepfather’s murder.

He’d told the prosecutors that Mama Ok-ja saw Jae-yeol stab their stepfather, but in court, Mama Ok-ja pleaded ignorance even as she looked at Jae-bum in tears. She knew what she was doing, but why?

Back in the present, Jae-bum continues, “Even after I wake up, I go back to bed and dream about the same thing. My dongsaeng killed him. My dongsaeng killed our stepfather!” He turns just a little more desperate as he begs Sunbae Jo to give his mother and brother that truth serum he talked about. “Promise me! Promise me!”

Jae-yeol tries to lend Kang-woo a hand when it comes to the girl he likes, since he’s too afraid to say anything even though they followed her all the way home. Kang-woo knows enough about the girl’s schedule to know when she turns on the lights, when he can see her shadow as she changes clothes…

The two of them laugh about it, at least until Jae-yeol throws a rock at the house to get the girl to open the window. “His name is Kang-woo, and he said that he likes you!” Jae-yeol calls up to her. “Make sure to say hi next time you see him!”

Kang-woo runs off in embarrassment, and Jae-yeol follows, all the while laughing like a schoolboy. He and Kang-woo are on a high after that as they run through the streets, with Jae-yeol exclaiming excitedly that she’ll know who Kang-woo is now.

While Hae-soo watches the video from her drunken night with a smile on her face, Jae-yeol keeps running and smiling… only Kang-woo’s not there. There’s no one with him.

 
COMMENTS

SO CREEPY. Oh, so creepy. Though I can’t quite pinpoint when I became sure that Kang-woo was a figment of Jae-yeol’s imagination, I didn’t think we’d get the big reveal so soon. And the sequence of events leading up to it were so perfect in that they could not have been more unsettling if they tried. I thought I was prepared for this, but I’m still cringing in my seat.

The thing about it isn’t so much that we found out Kang-woo isn’t real, because it’s been fairly clear from the beginning that there’s something not quite right about Jae-yeol. But since most drama heroes tends to be at least a little crazy, I took it with a grain of salt that Jae-yeol might legitimately be off-center, since this show’s world is populated by the mentally unsettled. So, even if he had an imaginary friend in Kang-woo, I really thought it couldn’t be all bad if Kang-woo was just a hallucination that popped up every now and then—disregarding the fact that no hallucination is truly harmless, anyway. But Kang-woo’s not just an imaginary friend, is he? He could be the personification of Jae-yeol’s guilt, the ghost of his former self, his alter-ego, maybe even a mixture of all or still possibly none.

What blurs the line with what he is to Jae-yeol is the fact that he’s clearly living a separate life—which, by extension, means that Jae-yeol is completely unaware that he spends some of his time AS Kang-woo. From what we’ve been given, which is unreliable at best, Kang-woo isn’t just some harmless, ghost-like illusion. Not if Jae-yeol, living as Kang-woo, has been following a girl (maybe not even the first) home so frequently that he knows her schedule down to the second.

So… that’s horrifying, isn’t it? Even if there’s some magical turnaround later, or maybe even some reveal that would undo this one, the idea that there’s a part of Jae-yeol that follows girls home is really awful to consider. It’d be different, but not necessarily better, if the scene played out the way Jae-yeol really thinks it did except with the added twist that he’s really alone. But because Kang-woo is all in his head, the information he knows could only have come from Jae-yeol—which means Jae-yeol knew that girl’s schedule because he, not Kang-woo, had been there before. It adds a different color to all the fuss that was made about him complimenting So-nyeo too, even if it doesn’t necessarily excuse Hae-soo’s tendency to fly off the handle.

But here’s something I never thought I’d find myself saying: There might just be a silver lining to Jae-yeol’s stalking. Not just because he’s an unreliable narrator or because he’s crazy and doesn’t know what he’s doing, but because there were two versions of the girl inside that house. In one shot she’s a young student, and in the other she’s a young woman. It’s so slight that I have to grudgingly hand it to the director, but it’s certainly enough to keep us guessing—even if the outcome still doesn’t change all that much. Or does it? I give up until next week. You guys have fun hashing this one out.

 
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The last scene was so heartbreaking. If Kang-woo is really Jae-yul's past reflection, he's been going through too much pain and scar. How much hurt he is.. Really..

I love all the songs, esp the one that starting to play around 42:00 ~~

Anyway, thanks for the recap, Heads! Such a beautiful show! I learned alot from this drama :')

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I love this episode. Many have guessed that KangWoo is just a pigment of JaeYul imagination, but the execution of the scene was just chilling and very creepy, and I love it. And I feel so sad bout it. Poor JaeYul.

The girl is probably a girl that JaeYul used to like when he was younger. Like his high school crush or something.

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The girl can be seen by his housemates, so she can't be imaginary like KW.
But I'm intrigued by her as well. Hope she turns out to be just as cracked as they r and just as interesting.

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Sorry, I thought you were talking about the other girl, the one who wants JY to buy her cigarettes.

Ya, the one at the window. Is she real? Or is it his imagination too, like KW at his side?

If she is real, n JY has been following her home 'after school', then it's super creepy. But if it's in his imagination like KW, then it's probably sth connected w his past trauma that he is trying to work thru.

Seeing JY running with such joy and innocence on his face, talking and gesturing animatedly to sb who isn't there just breaks my heart! Esp. given how pulled together he makes a pt to be in front of ppl.

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i was thinking if the girl (not oh sonyeo) was perhaps jaeyul's crush when he was in high school? thats why he was able to portray her face and knew her address. but the girl in his memory would still be a teenager, whereas currently the girl had of course grown up, thus it was the woman who showed up..

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I was thinking that when JY was young a girl used to live there that he liked and followed home. Back then he didn't have the courage to do anything but look at her through the window. Now, in the present day, goes to the house, and experiences it as an outsider with his younger self if that makes any sense. Because the two parts of him are separate, yet one, the older "adult" person wants to help his younger self somehow, by having the courage to actually act on the feelings the younger self used to have for the girl the way his adult self does now with women. This is expressed by him throwing the stone at the window. In support of this theory, we have the "older" woman at the window (who may be the girl of the past grown up, or some random woman who now lives at the house). In any case, she looks very puzzled by what she sees out the window. (Presumable some random guy throwing stones at her window).

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That girl (that he followed home with Kang woo) hasn't been seen by the housemates. The girl with pink hair is someone else.

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Yeah I think the girl at the window was Jae Yeol's high school crush because when kang woo was with him, it was one girl but after he ran away, it was a totally different girl who couldn't see kang woo

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Yes! I thought that she looked different (maybe older?) when she opened the window.

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the music is just fabulous. where can i get info about all the songs being played as background score? the peppy theme song is so perfect. perhaps because he works as a writer and a DJ too, the lyrics to all the songs played have a special significance to the story and the characters. i'm loving it.

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If you look up It's Okay, It's Love BGM on Youtube, you should find a playlist of a lot of the background songs they played ;) I'm still looking for that duet they were playing when Jae Yeol was watching Hae Soo sleep though haha.

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awww. thank you.

thanks to benevolent creatures like you and whoever it was that made that playlist, now i know what my favourite song of the moment is called.

cheers to cross my mind by twin forks! :)

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Haha I wasn't the the savvy fan who made the playlist, but I thought I should promote it so everyone knows the great music in the drama :)

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I love that song too!!
Though it's kinda weird, but I don't feel the song out of place at all for each scene it played ^^

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Hi, thank you for telling people about my playlist! ^^

I think the duet song will be released later as an OST~
Seriously, the music in this drama couldn't be any more perfect /dying/

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perfectfiasco, you're a rock! spreading love and joy and awesome music in the lives of others. kamsamida!

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perfectfiasco! Just wanted to say a BIG thank you for your playlist! I've taken the liberty of creating a spotify playlist based on your youtube collection. There are a few gaps (spotify is lacking korean music) but this hits some of the highlights, and hopefully introduces people to some more great music! Find it here: http://open.spotify.com/user/ellkoe/playlist/6PBgE2MBGP6m7ra8rvJUrD

I'm not sure how to make this a collaborative AND public playlist, but hopefully other spotify users can enjoy the good vibes!

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what an awesome hearing you had! *run to the playlist*

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Yep the duet is out :D

Search:

[괜찮아 사랑이야 OST Part 3] 크러쉬 (Crush) - 잠 못드는 밤 (Feat.펀치 (Punch)) (Sleepless Night)

Btw I love your playlist ;)

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Hey, I love the music too and I shazam-ed them.
Here are the English songs:
Sunboat- Little Suns
Cross My Mind- Twin Forks
Hero- Family of the Year

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THANK YOU -- have already downloaded and am enjoying :-)

Looks like Hero is also on the soundtrack of that new film getting all the critics' attention, Boyhood.

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i know the heartbreaking situation in the show doesn't warrant all this happiness, but guys, i am so happy right now. it's like my indie-folk dream soundtrack come true.

and all this while, i'd made a little medley of sunboat and cross my mind and thought they were the same song. no wonder i was having trouble finding them.

enjoy!

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It was the most heartbreaking revelation. I think the girl is perhaps someone in Jae-yeol's past, with perhaps a different face and name to fit Kang-soo's life. Maybe there was this girl he liked when he was a teenager who he could only look at from afar. Less stalking and more pining, I guess.

I'm just loving everything about this drama. I like how they did not try to keep away a twist many people had already realized. It was well-timed, and as HeadsNo2 said, had a good build-up throughout the episode.

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The younger girl who appeared in the window is imaginary. perhaps she was JY childhood crush. I think the window was not opened yet before they left. Then just right after they turned their back, the window opened and we see the grown up girl...

Anwyay, the last part of the ep was so heartbreaking. In real life we may get scared of these people but after knowing their story it is so pitiful... TT TT

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Especially how kangwoo's laughs turned into sobs. Tears filling his eyes and all

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i aslo loved the song that staring to play around 42:00, if anyone knows whats the name of the song please tell me :) thank you ^^

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This episode made me giggle a lot and a little weepy. They are shockingly handling mental illness with a complex mix of humor and thoughtfulness that does not insult. I was suprised by the ending but it made me love JY's character even more. I'm hooked.

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Does anyone know the song that plays in the beginning of the episode? During the Kiss Kiss Slap Slap scene? ;p

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only 4 episodes so far and am loving it like crazy!!!!

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>… only Kang-woo’s not there. There’s no one with him.

Called it! Your point about whether Jae Yeol spends part of his time as Kang Woo is a good one (and one that seriously gives me the creeping heebie-jeebies - imagine that your brain turns you off and someone else on without your knowledge. ::shudder::)

I'm completely captivated by these complicated, dangerous characters. Can't wait for next week's episodes!

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What u describe in parenthesis is Multiple personalities, as in the Faces of Eve. But JY doesn't seen to be like that.

He is very present, only WITH an imaginary personality. It's less dangerous than being 'taken over' bcos he can be snapped out of such imaginary conversations, I suppose. Unless of course, later on the show presents us with KW being on screen by himself, w/o our author present.

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agreed this is more of A beautiful Mind's situation than Tell Me Your Dreams

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i actually think its similar to tell me your dreams,the personalities have actually gotten to know each other an spend time together,one has taken over the writing for 3 years ever since the stabbing where we first saw him.
kang woo dark stuff,JY used to do romance.
i think there is another personality hat guy from talk show n maybe the bedroom guy.
not familiar with the other book though i'll be sure to check it out.
tell me your dreams blew my mind out of all his books especially because my young naive mind never knew such a condition exists .

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I agree with you in that with dissociative identity disorder only one personality can be present at a given time. The fact that there are many scenes showing both Kang Woo and Jae Yeol interacting with each other seems to eliminate the possibility of DID.

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Complicated and dangerous characters for gods sake... this is dramaland on cinema you can feel horror like Oldboy or the chaser men with hammers in their hands.
K dramas respect to big screen is like Disneyland not for soft hearted girls

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>Complicated and dangerous characters for gods sake… this is dramaland on cinema you can feel horror

Actually, for those of us with relatives who suffer from mental illness, this is plenty terrifying. Because sometimes those who seem fine, really really aren't. And while having them erupt into violence is scary (as my schizophrenic cousin is wont to do when he slacks on his meds - most recently, an armed standoff with police), it's not as scary in the long term as the emotional damage that can be caused by relationships with those who are seriously ill.

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Thanks for the recap, Heads!

You're right, so creepy. And heartbreaking, too, that last still of him running alone, because he's so happy and carefree, and yet the situation is so very, very wrong. It's a disturbing echo of his exhilarating run through the streets with Hae-soo the night before - but this time instead of running from a drunken fistfight, he's running from his past.

I had a feeling that Jae-bum was wrongly imprisoned, however unpleasant he is. I suspected this before and that Jae-yeol was lying about it, but I wonder now if the change in JY's writing and the manifestation of Kang-woo is his subconscious mind dealing with his guilt, and that he doesn't consciously know that he was the one who killed his stepfather (even by accident).

Either way, brave show for going there with its hero. Awesome and unsettling, as you said.

And nice catch with the two girls in the window! ...I'm even more confused now, lol.

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I believe Jae-bum is actually responsible for the father's death. He's currently in denial, blaming Jae-yeol instead for the death, with the mother complicit in his imprisonment. So firm is his belief that he sought out Jae-yeol for pay-back immediately after his prison release, in the first episode and has refused, until recently to see his mother.

If Jae-bum's beliefs are actually true, there wouldn't be any reason for Tae-yong to ask Sunbae Jo to meet (and treat) Jae-bum, would there? It's likely that Sunbae Jo's 'task' is to make Jae-bum admit to his own actions and stop blaming Jae-yeol and mom for his current situation. Perhaps that's why 'truth serum' has been brought up in this episode.

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I don't think anyone has a clear handle on what happened the night the stepfather died. There was the chaos of abuse-in-progress, it happened fast, and everyone involved was in survival mode.

My supported hunch is that JB had the knife out, prepared to use it in self-defense or in defense of his mother and brother if he had to, but most likely trying to scare the stepfather away. JY hit/pushed stepfather, leading him to careen into the knife JB held. Nothing went the way anyone planned. My guess is that it happened so fast, as the memory clip shows that the mother (knocked around a bit beforehand) really doesn't know what happened, and is still traumatized into confused-terror-freeze in the witness stand. Since JB held the knife, he got the blame without a clear story otherwise.

If there was a call from Kang-woo that sent JY tearing out of the house to meet KW near the end of the episode, I missed seeing the call entirely. I thought it was an aha realization that sent him running, his own words "I treat a minor as a minor," showing him he was being inappropriate with this beat up kid, having coldly yelled that Kang-Woo should have had the foresight and abilities of an adult, knowing how to make his mom run away with him, taking himself to the hospital when he was traumatized. I think he saw "in a moment" that he had been berating a kid for not being a man. His own words corrected him, and he rushed back to see KW. When the kid then out and out said he had hit his father like a man, with that heartbreakingly overwhelmed expression, JY this time acted the way a healthy adult would act with a terrorized kid - he grabbed him to his chest, comforted him and told him it was not his fault.

It was so heartwrenching for me because it LOOKS to us like a step backward into insanity because we have mostly seen JY as calm, rational, and pulled together for all his OCD - the healthier one in the house. But as the truth is revealed, we see the depth of his disconnect AT THE SAME TIME there is a glint of what MAY (or may not) be a huge step forward in resolving and dare-we-hope reintegrating the part of himself that he has disowned. Is he getting worse or better?

(I don't see this as MPD so far, but as delusion.)

I think the characters all open a window toward more health for each other, but it's going to hurt like hell if one or more gets slammed fingers (re-traumatized) when trying to climb through.

Sheee, so life-like.

I ship our leads so hard despite the dangers and hope they will be able to lean on each other, but I'm cringing in fear myself because I already love them so much. Can either of them really do anything lightly? I don't think either is capable of that, so it's all very high stakes.

I think the girl at the window scene FELT creepy but probably was not creepy. We don't even reliably know whether the light/shadow part was real or part of a delusion. So ambiguous.

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Incredibly masterful all the way around, and the episode hit me so hard in all my emotions - so sad, so funny, and hopeful and (disturbingly?) sexy at the same time. The anticipation is killing me, in a good way.

It could all explode and harm all the characters, or it could be a walk through the fire to more health for everyone, or some of this, some of that. It will take such courage and trust all around.

I suddenly felt such pity for JB in his last scene of the episode, and the uncharacteristically serious stunned look on Sunbae Jo's face made my heart melt for him too.

I don't think the "we see the baby" case was random. Will the story go Lars and the Real Girl on us? It's going to make me cry when that moment comes.

I trust the writers, cast, and crew implicitly wherever they take us. Can't help it, I am crushing on this drama so hard. Everything about it, every detail, just slays me.

Oh, and did anyone catch the way Kang-Woo's t-shirt echoed the leopard prince of Hae-Soo's shirt early in the first episode - at the book signing? I think it's a clue that the flesh and blood Hae-Soo could transition to providing some of the functions imaginary Kang-Woo has served.

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sorry, wrote too much for one comment...

Incredibly masterful all the way around, and the episode hit me so hard in all my emotions - so sad, so funny, and hopeful and (disturbingly?) sexy at the same time. The anticipation is killing me, in a good way.

It could all explode and harm all the characters, or it could be a walk through the fire to more health for everyone, or some of this, some of that. It will take such courage and trust all around.

I suddenly felt such pity for JB in his last scene of the episode, and the uncharacteristically serious stunned look on Sunbae Jo's face made my heart melt for him too.

I don't think the "we see the baby" case was random. Will the story go Lars and the Real Girl on us? It's going to make me cry when that moment comes.

I trust the writers, cast, and crew implicitly wherever they take us. Can't help it, I am crushing on this drama so hard. Everything about it, every detail, just slays me.

Did you notice that Kang Woo's t-shirt early in the episode (book signing scene) echoed Hae-soo's leopard print shirt? A clue she may eventually be able to provide some of the functions Kang Woo has served? What do you think?

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Now I juuust need to know, why it was JY who fought with his father and not his hyung. How come Hyung didn't protect his mother and brother from his abusive father? I think the Show will tell us at some point, since it keeps on stripping layers off the individual characters episode by episode.

And a thought crossed my mind: if StalkerKid is not real, then who is to say that any of the characters are? JY may just as well be imagining everything (and/or writing a story on everything that's going on) from a closed institution, if you know what I mean ...

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That flashback was hyung's flashback. Just as Stalkerkid is real to JY but non-existent to others, that flashback is not necessarily the truth as to what actually transpired. It's what hyung believed happened. At this point in time, a lot of things are mere speculation.

More must be revealed. I want to know why JY was so forgiving of his hyung; he actually smiled after being stabbed by Jae-bum!

Regardless, thanks for the recap HeadsNo2!

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THAT WOULD BE SO AWESOME !!!!
wow ur mind *slow clap*
he could be the one in the asylum thinking everyone in there is crazy but him,and the audience US taking pity and so forth as he described during the radio programme talking about flying over the cuckoo's nest or something like that .
anyway it would be a daebak ending that would cause an uproar in dramaland MUAHAHA. I'm already imagining peoples reactions after 20 hrs of watching weekly waits and discussions and all along we were trying to rationalise a psychos irrational mind tkhihihi.

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Someone on Soompi suggests both brothers killed dad and each blames the other. Mom kept silent so only one son would go to jail. That would be pretty fascinating.

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How sexy was Jo In Sung in that DJ Booth!? I died watching him.

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So so hot.

And in the bedroom while HS slept. Why is a baseball hat sexy alla sudden?

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Definitely sexy... more so that he's so mysterious and we have no idea how crazy he is. ooof!

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I think the Yankees cap was actually to look more sexy. And he succeeded!!!

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His intense stares and subtle facial expressions make me blush like a school girl..!!

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i thought i was the one that blushing looking that scene.. really... seriously how could he so charm in every gesture.. i love his act..
i love this drama..even its kinda weird

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How sexy was he with the lighter in the dark? He's a walking sex god. The way he looks at gong hyo jin, well. He clearly wants her. i think he has better onscreen chemistry with gong hyo jin here than when he did TWTWB.

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I am so with you... when I watched TWTWB, at first I didn't see his attraction, but by the end of the show I was won over. But in this show, oh my, the hotness factor has been turned way up. And I agree that the chemistry is palpable, and much better than in TWTWB - and I thought that was pretty darn good! That scene in the DJ booth with the horde of girls outside just made me all warm inside and wishing that I was the one that he was looking at like that!

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Tell me about it - by the time I finished watching TWTWB, I thought he was sexy, but I couldn't figure out why. I figured that it was because of his chemistry with his costar. But in this, his hotness is off the charts, and the chemistry is even greater. And I gotta tell you, her issues with sexuality must be pretty great, because if I were in that situation with him, I would have blown the lighter out, and gone to town with the kisses! Between that and the DJ scene with the horde of girls outside, my insides were hot mush and I'm not afraid to admit it! *fans self vigorously*

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Anyone know of the song playing around 42:50? (aka the scene where Jae Yeol is watching Hae Soo sleep)

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I haven't found it yet..please..please..if someone know it *blink blink*
The female voice sounds like IU, but I can't remember the song (as well as lookin for it in my collection)...if someone know it, please do tell. Thank you

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Omg I am continuously loving this drama. The storyline just got super good not thatI wasn't before but seriously I am enjoying myself.

Jo in sung and gong hyo Jin are perfect together, I ship <3

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I hope that this drama continues this trajectory because it is so refreshing and different in a way I can't really explain. Not to mention, 4 episodes in and we've learned and seen so much already yet there's so much more we don't know.

I really hope that everything will be better then it seems once Jae Yeol's past is revealed. I do wonder about his hung though, bease as an older sibling if my younger brother was being abused I wouldn't stand for it. So I'm just wondering about how he plays out in this whole thing besides the fact that he's seemingly innocent right now but who knows? Maybe this drama will throw another twist?

I really can't write enough about how much I'm loving this show so far and the cast is just oh so lovely from you to bottom.

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This show keeps on getting interesting. Sometimes I forget that there's something wrong with Jae-yul just because he's hot. No, super hot. Hahaha.

I can't wait for the next episodes!!! I really like this drama~~ :)

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Oh man that last scene really screwed me over..

My sister and I knew something was up when we first saw KW - A high schooler at the night club when he first got stabbed. then again when someone wearing the exact same shirt was in KW's place where JY & HS were recording the tv show.

But I don't think JY is living a separate life AS KW - I think what KW is is a coping mechanism. He isn't living through KW (as in living KW's life) but living WITH him. I think KW is a personification of JY's past. The problem with the whole thing is that JY doesn't realize that he's not real.

KYAAA this drama is messing with my head.... and heart.

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I think Kang Woo is Jae Yeol in the past. The girl they were following was someone Jae Yeol liked in the past but until now he still follows her and perceives her as a girl but in reality she's already a grown woman, probably as old as Jae Yeol in the present. This means that he's been doing this for a long time and thus his illness has been going on for some time too. Jae Yeol is still trapped within his past through Kang Woo.

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Since it's been going on for a while, i wonder how none of the people around him have caught onto it. Esp considering all those times he hallucinated kang woo in public.

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We don't really know if he's hallucinated Kang Woo in public, though, do we? All the times, he's interacted with Kang Woo, he's been alone, like in the bathroom and the park. And the times he pointed at him or winked at him during the talk show or the signing, there were a lot of other people there, so it could be taken as him winking or waving at one of them...the only time he spoke to Kang Woo in front of someone was when he was trying to get Hae Soo to the restroom in the lobby and she was a bit preoccupied to notice then....I'm looking forward to what happens when she remembers that.
I liked this show when I saw the first two episodes last week and I didn't really think of Kang Woo as imaginary until I was surfing some forums online...the end of this episode is why I've legitimately fallen in love with this show now. So unsettling, but so heartbreaking. I knew in the back of my head that if Kang Woo was imaginary it meant Jae Yeol has some deep-seated issues but when the reveal came, it didn't make me back away from him like I thought it would when it was finally laid out. I still feel as strongly about the character as I did before, only now, I also want to know what the hell happened that damaged him so much.
And contrary to what Heads thinks about the music, I actually like the BGM during the fight scenes and other such scenes in the show. I feel like if they went with traditional music cues, the show would become something a lot more serious and...conventional, for lack of a better word. Since the premise itself is so out of the ordinary and the characters that populate that world are themselves so off-centre, it makes sense that the music they wouldn't be the same that we are used to either. Besides, weird or not, it fits.

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It honestly wasn't that big of a shocker because we already guessed it since episode 1. When they were running down the street, I was just waiting for the camera to pan back and reveal him running by himself. I felt like they were going for a "The Sixth Sense" plot twist but didn't quite get there. I wish Hae Soo would have played exposition fairy instead, like "Who are you talking to? There's no one there." Dun dun dun. So she can start noticing signs of schizophrenia as a psychiatrist; although, she is being very unprofessional divulging cases to him to get his feedback on treatment. It's like he's the psychiatrist instead. What happened to doctor-patient confidentiality, especially if her "hypothetical" situations give him ideas for his next book? Heck, I think Sunbae Jo is being unprofessional, too, telling Jae Bum about sodium amytal.

HeadsNo2, did you not recap that part about Kang Woo's crush turning into a woman after they ran away? My theory is she is Jae Yeol's childhood crush, so he still sees her as a schoolgirl, but in reality, she is an adult the same age as Jae Yeol (who apparently lives in the same house she grew up in?). I wonder if there was some significance of Jae Yeol wearing a Yankees baseball cap to bed. Why did he put on that hat after he got home? Who wears hats to sleep?

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I'm not sure about South Korea, but here in the States, patient confidentiality means not revealing any personal health information (PHI). In Hae Soo's case, she didn't reveal any identifiable information. I think this can be a murky area sometimes, but more often than not, just discussing the patient's afflictions without divulging things like age, ID, employment, etc. (things that could be definitively traced back to the patient) is fine.

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But I'm still confused how an imaginary friend like KW can actually call JY by phone? in the 3rd episode

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Easy. He just imagined the phone ringing and the following conversation. If he can imagine people, why not situations?

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but he actually got his phone ringing while HS was in his room before?

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i'm firmly of the opinion he has Multiple personality disorder, kang woo is a personalty based on JY the traumatized kid who became more frequent after the stabbing and has taken over the writing hence the darker stuff.
i believe there maybe another personality within JY -the guy with the hat at the talk show and it could be the same personality that was with hae soo listening to music, completely different from JY who changed ,cleaned her up and put her too bed.
hat personality could also be the one that killed the step dad.
jy and kang woo might not know about it, but explains
why kang woo thought it was jy.
i don't trust hyung though ,i still think he did it

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Yes I also thought their was a break in his personalities. What gave it away was when he changed and put on that cap.
What was also a RED flag was if JY is indeed hallucinating KW then why is he receiving manuscripts unless he wrote them. Your comment has really put things into more perspective. Glad that someone has also come to the same conclusion as me.
I wonder what the story is behind the bathtub?

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I suspect that he does actually sleep in the bathtub, and that it has been going on since he was an (apparently abused) child. Perhaps he and his mother hid from his father in the bathroom because they could lock the door (as opposed to many bedrooms which don't have locks). Maybe it's where he feels safest and relaxed. It would also explain the massive security that he has on his bathroom doors. I still believe that Kang-woo is his childhood self that he hasn't come to grips with yet, perhaps because of his father's death. I can't wait to see how this develops.... I LOVE this show!

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the thing with mpd is that you cannot hallucinate the personalities, interact with the personalities, or even know they exist. when you have mpd the ONLY person who can keep track of those personalities would be your psychologist after years monitoring you. because people with mpd can have 2-100 personalities. what i think he might be suffering from is ptsd and ocd. he obviously went through traumatic abuse as a kid and him being attacked by his brother like that in the first ep triggered KH into existence.

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It's pretty obvious that Kwang Soo likes the Schoolgirl ¡¡¡

maybe future love story from this beautiful drama

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How old is Kwang Soo (Soo Kwang)? I would be repulsed if he is over 18 and has a love line with a high school student after berating Jae Yeol for hitting on a minor.

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ugh no.. i don't want that love line.. kinda creepy, just like what panshel said, he would be a total pervert and hypocrite if he starts something with her.. but i don't think he would anyways.

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In real life

kwang soo it's 29 years old

lee sung kyung aka the schoolgirl it's 24 years old

in the drama

kwang soo 28 years old

the schoolgirl maybe 18 years old

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I have a feeling that she is soo kwang's sister or something like that.

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Thanks for the recap.

Creepy Frightening really frightening how dangerous JW's life just became.

Yes, the young girl morphed into a young woman. My guess is that as a youth, he followed the school girl home, and she grew up to the woman in the window. She knows him from school.

I don't think JY spends time as KW, or we would have already heard about times that he has disappeared and reappeared, and we would have heard his closet full of excuses that he has been telling his manager and sex partner. I think that KW prolly only started appearing after JY killed his dad, and interestingly never noticed that the kid stays the same age. As in another movie with a similar trick, until someone points out the fact that KW hasn't aged in three years, he won't believe it.

Awesome part with the light on and off. Made my heart speed up so much.

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Is there really a movie with that premise?

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Not the same kind of movie, but in A Beautiful Mind John Nash's "college roommate" kept showing up throughout his life but never aging.

If someone in your life keeps showing up year after year without an discernible signs of aging [and they aren't of African descent] chances are they are figments of your imagination. hahaha

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Oh yeah...I can't remember well, but did the college roommate actually exist at some point or was it all made up?

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Its a good thing that his imaginary friend is a boy and he is not living as KW like in most cases of that disorder. Imagine if he is a grown up, equally hot as our hero and living up another personality. Which will leave us with an imaginary second lead syndrome! LOL

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Ha ha ha! That would actually make a great plot twist! Imaginary second lead syndrome - I love it!

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Lol. That's going to take second lead syndrome to a whole new level.

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I personally don't think he's living as Kang Woo. I think Jae Yeol is living believing that there is a fan name Kang Woo that follows him and has his own separate life and problems. From what I'm getting from the drama so far is that he doesn't seem to be living as Kang Woo, moreover I think he's living with Kang Woo because Kang Woo's situation to me looks like a mirror of what happened to Jae Yeol's life. Kang Woo could have created by Jae Yeol as a personification of his anger, pain, sadness, etc. I think at some point he had a severe mental break down and Kang Woo was the result of it as a coping mechanism. All of which is horrifying and tragic because it is only Jae Yeol that doesn't seem to understand that Kang Woo is not real. Can you imagine when he finds out that Kang Woo is not real? Second mental breakdown?

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Can the two girls mean that he doesn't actually follow girls around? I mean for all we know he imagined the younger girl just like he is imagining Kang-woo. The older version of the girl could have already been at the house, he merely remembered his younger self (assuming Kang-woo is a reflection of that) having followed that same girl in his youth.

The stalking thing is still creepy in both scenarios, but I'm trying to find a less creepy version. Because a grown man stalking a young girl is just not right.

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Yeah, I took it to be completely fabricated. I suppose someone at that house may have meant something to him in his past but since he an fabricate a fair number of interacting as part of his delusion, it would be easy to invent that the kid knew the schedule or that he had any idea if there was a woman there at all. (Would have been funny if the school girl had faded into an old man or something instead)

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The last scene was just a stab in the heart.

I'm sure there's a medical term for his illness, but my take on it is that Jae-yul was so traumatized by his experience that he's re-living/objectifying it as an adult in order to deal with it. So it's not that he's living a separate life, but Kang-woo's life that we're seeing actually happened to him a long time ago.

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Kang Woo is a hallucination, right?

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See this is why I must finish a recap in one go cause it gave me the freaking answer!

Now on to who the hell Kang Woo is/was. Was he a friend or is it a version of JY?

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Thanks for the recap! About Jae-Yeol spending part of his time as Kang-Woo, that's a good point, but I don't think that's the case when Jae-Yeol follows the girl home. I think it could easily be someone Jae-Yeol liked and followed as an high-schooler. Jae-Yeol saw her as when he was young, that's why she was still young. The audience is shown the reality when the camera cuts to her being older.
I'm not sure about this theory, but it never occurred to me that it happened any other way, so that's why I felt like sharing my thoughts.
In any case, this is a great watch so far, thought-provoking and funny. I definitely feel like there's still more than meets the eye, so I'm expecting getting the universe these characters live in turned upside down at least a few more times until we get to the final version of the truth.

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Wow, that ending. For me, it actually came out of nowhere, though I should've seen it coming, considering all the hints were there. . . but I'm glad I didn't. I couldn't wish for a better reveal and plot-twist!

So basically, Kang-woo is a split personality, I take it. A reflextion of his past self, the one who was beaten by his step-father, and eventually "manned up" and killed him in the end. Only, Jae-yeol doesn't remember, and honestly believes his brother killed his father instead.

As for the school-girl in the window . . . I'm guessing when Jae-yeol was young, he had a crush on her, but never got the courage to confess. As an adult though, he's no longer powerless and afraid, and is finally able to help "Kang-woo" confront what he himself was never able to do. That's why when *he* sees her, it's as a young student. It's only when the perspective changes that we see she's actually an adult, just like him. Only, she recognizes the strange behavior for what it is - something her young-counterpart couldn't - because she was never really in the window at all. Jae-yeol isn't stalking her. He's simply returning to a place he used to frequent as a young, love-struck teenager.

In any case, it's both thrilling and disturbing. I'm so curious to see where the story goes from here, even if, before that ending, I was kinda neutral about it. Now I'm hooked, good and proper.

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..He’s simply returning to a place he used to frequent as a young, love-struck teenager.

And that's because he is now having the same love-struck feeling with Hae Soo, me think.

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I think you may be overreacting about the stalker thing. My sense from the execution is that this is a girl from Kang Woo's past (given the dual shot of the older woman), whom he probably used to follow but no longer does. Hence why he still recalls her schedule.

No, I doubt we're even a finger within pedophilia territory, so stop overthinking that scene.

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I agree with you. I don't think Jae Yeol is stalking the girl as of now. Knowing the girl's schedule probably refers to back when he used to follow her around when they were both teenagers. Otherwise, the woman would probably have recognized Jae Yeol by now instead of looking as confused as she did. (Or we could argue that she was that clueless and only noticed now that a grown man has been stalking her for what, the last 10 years?)

The writers probably didn't expect it to be interpreted in any pedophilia kind of way. They might have just wanted to juxtapose what Jae Yeol was like when he was younger, and throw in some breadcrumbs here and there about Kang Woo being a figment of his imagination (the baseball cap, the girl turning into a grown woman, etc.) before leading us up to the big reveal at the very end.

For me, I'm more grossed out by the idea that Soo Kwang might develop a crush on the So Nyeo actually..

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Sorry, So Nyeo *** Lol, I kept thinking of it's literal translation -_-

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I got chills watching that last scene. I think the girl is someone younger Jae-yeol used to like and so I didn't really think of it that way, when I was watching it, I didn't really see the connection with that and him complimenting So-nyeo but reading your comments, it is kinda creepy.
I kinda wanna go back and watch Jae-yeol and Kang-woo's scenes again.
During that scene in the hospital when Hae-soo and the doctors were treating the woman with the baby, afterwards when the one doctor was wondering why they pretended to see the baby and the guy answered him by saying as doctors, they have to see from the patient's perspective, it makes me wonder what Hae-soo's reaction will be when she finds out about Kang-woo.
Overall this show is just so GOOD, and AWESOME song of the day pick!

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Thank you for the recap.

Getting to know Jael-yeol's character is like peeling onion, sometime it can make one cry. Wondered what happened in that household that they are still paying for it in adulthood. Still, I like him and most of the characters in the show.

I particularly like Jael-yeol's thoughful side and him telling it like it is, in contrast to the head doctors. I find myself mulling over Jael-yeol's and Hae-soo's exchanges after the show and rooting for them to end up together.

I hope the Show will not make Jael-yeol to be a creepy total psycho, that will be really disappointing.

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Oh and Jo In-sung's intense stares into the camera do funny things to my stomach.

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There are times Jae Yeol's face has a meanness to it that I really see in a romantic lead.

Two specific moments come to mind, one-when he left Kang-woo in the park and two-when he defended himself against the accusation of hitting on a minor.

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THIS episode is the one that draws me in completely. The dialogue is so well written that I have to pay attention to every single word, just like in TWTWB. I like how the writer isn't hesitant about exploring the "sensitive" topics of sex, self-identity, etc. I applaud the writer.

The last scene is so eerily beautiful and powerful. I can't wait until the housemates begin to notice "Kang-woo". JIS can do NO WRONG!

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I watched a jdrama long ago where the male lead I think has split personalities. It was a good drama but it gave me the creep too. Couldn't recall the title though.
Also noticed how he put on his cap while watching Hae soo sleep? Curious indeed.
Looking forward to these people in that house healing each other.

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Yeah, curious indeed. I notice that the writer has a knack for placing important details, sort of tidbits really that we might miss if we don't pay much attention or if we aren't detail-oriented. I guess, that cap too means something about his identity or his past... I think i'll just rewatch the episodes soon when i have time. Looking forward to the good, warm and healing stuff too :-)

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Yeah, I need to re watch previous eps too. I think kang woo wore that cap in one of the scene before. But I'm not sure.

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I think Kang Woo's cap was opposite colors. And there was also an episode when Kang Woo's t-shirt echoed the animal print of Hae Soo shirt.

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do not know if anyone discussed it before...but the girl he was following wasn't a high school girl..she changed to a grown ups when they left..so maybe its only the girl he used to like?

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Maybe I'm trying too hard but does anyone else think this drama is loosely based on One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? There's a lot of parallels between the characters. If this is the case, it'll be interesting to see how close the writer stays to the book.

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I wouldn't go as far as to say the story is based on One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, but there was the scene when Sunbae Jo and Jae-bum talk about the patient that claims to have faked schizophrenia in order to gain leniency.

In One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Randall McMurphy is sent to a prison farm when accused of statutory rape of a 15-year-old girl. He mistakenly thinks that the mental institution would be a easier ride than the prison farm and is sent to the mental hospital for evaluation.

Now the issue of the girl, Oh So-Nyeo, being a minor pops up.

It's been years since I've read the book, I think a reread is in order.

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JY discussed One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in a radio broadcast, so it's definitely a touchstone, but I don't see this story as being based on that one any further than what has already been directly mentioned.

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I knew he wasn't real, I don't think I can pin point the exact moment but still I knew Kang Woo wasn't real.

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for me its on the bathroom scene after the talkshow

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For me it was when Kang Woo was following Jae Yul around on his bike and suddenly the camera pans away to reveal no one behind Jae Yul!

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Thanks for the recap, I've been waiting for this. This show is getting pretty interesting. And the background tracks are awesome.

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Are we convinced that he actually killed his step-farther? I think there is something fishy about the brother - and not because of his anger/resentment of being falsely accused buuut something is not setting right with me and his story of their stepfather's death.

I was shocked that Mom had no ideal of her daughter's drama! What is that about???? She experienced that type of trauma at such a young age ....and Mom is clueless ....hmmmmm.

I was also wondering what triggers the 'other' persona. He ran out of the house with an urgency - after having a difficult conversation ...but...earlier they were chatting in his apartment - talking - she wants to throw-up ...and the 'other' persona/younger version of himself shows up....hmmmm

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During Jae Bum's flashback of the killing, I was expecting the camera to pan back and show Kang Woo holding the knife. I'm pretty convinced that Jae Yeol killed his stepfather, but he repressed the memory.

My theory: At this point in Kang Woo's (Jae Yeol's) life, his stepfather is still alive and beating his mother. Kang Woo fought back in this episode, just like Jae Yeol fought back at one time. That's why Jae Yeol consoled him by saying, "You were just defending yourself" as he probably consoled himself back then. Later in the drama, Kang Woo will kill his stepfather, just like Jae Yeol, and that is when Jae Yeol will realize he was the one who killed his stepfather and not his hyung. It's like reliving his past through his subconscious.

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Yes, that's a highly probable turn of events... I am so looking forward to more reveals because this show is a master at foreshadowing.. definitely giving hints but never taking away the thrill of discovery. I am so loving it!

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What are your thoughts on what triggers the 'younger version'?

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I think Kang Woo's events are happening in chronological order -- same month, same day, different year. Let's pretend the date Kang Woo came to Jae Yeol all bloodied and barefoot was July 31, 2014. This same incident happened to Jae Yeol (stepfather beating him, him running away from home without his shoes) on the same date (July 31) but different year (say, 2000). I think Kang Woo appears to Jae Yeol on anniversary dates of significant events. (Think "Nine: Nine Time Travels".)

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Omg I have the same thought as you! I legit have chills running down my spine when I read your comment because you literally took words out of my mouth haha :D

Like you, I'm kind of mixed up about the whole murdering-his-stepfather thing. Obviously, the writers want us to think that Jae Yeol murdered his father and it is his way of coping that he conjured up Kang Woo. However, I find it very weird that the camera never panned to Jae Beom at the murder scene even though he claims to know that Jae Yeol stabbed their stepfather and that their mother witnessed everything. I would readily accept/admit that Jae Yeol killed the stepfather if it was clearly portrayed as such, but everything up until now has been circumstantial.

I think it might be that Jae Yeol's stabbing wasn't the fatal blow. Something else must have gone down too. It is just high suspect that the writers would let us in onto the whole murder thing so early in the show. If big, suspenseful reveals are what they're aiming at, I think they have big plans for us down the road lol.

Maybe Jae Beom has some kind of disorder too. Honestly, he seems pretty unhinged to me already. I mean, I would be too if I was falsely accused of a crime I did not commit. The crux of the question is whether he was already like this before his incarceration, or after. Their mother certainly does not look like the type to just protect one son and implicate the other.

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How about Hae-soo's Mom not knowing her dis(connections) regarding her affair? I am having a hard time reconciling her Mom's treatment of her Father and having this ongoing affair - again maybe it is me, but it does not align with her character.

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I don't know - I have sympathy for Hae-soo's mom. She obviously takes devoted care of her disabled husband, but she was at one point taking care of him while still raising her daughters... while I don't condone adultery, this is a situation where her marriage is not a full marriage - she is basically mom to three including the husband, and she may have needed someone to support and love her. I can understand why she might have had a separate relationship.

Also, she doesn't understand how her daughter manages without having a normal sexual/romantic relationship - feels it's not healthy to live without, doesn't want that for her daughter. I think that's a clue to her own psyche.

Complicated situation for a kid to understand, and it's easy for even adults to have an idealized preconception of how a much-less-than-ideal life should be led. But she seems like a good mom, and it may be that she got what she needed to stay vital herself and be able to take care of both her husband and the daughters by having a separate relationship that nourished her - she might not have coped as well without it.

Easy to look down on her until you think through what her life would have been without it.

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This drama stresses me out. I think it's partly to do with the disparity between the tone and subject matter. Because there's definitely a fun romance here, but I don't really wanna go along with it and invest in it, only to have Jae Yeol being committed (for insanity) or imprisoned (for murder) at the end of it.... because that's definitely not fun.

This drama confuses my feels.

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Whoa... Imaginary friend?... Now I'm hooked... & creeped out..

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Oh man. I think I'm in love with this drama. Only 4 eps in and I love it. And i think one of the reasons I love it is because I have the feeling it's going to break my heart. JY is such a complicated character and I adore him!!

That scene at the start with HS. Omo. SO HOT. I may or may not have rewatched that one a few times over. Even though JY is super rich, the drama hasn't written him out to be the typical jackass that you usually get. All of the characters have so many layers to them!

I agree with the other viewers - I think KW is a manifestation of JY past, and not so much an active manifestation that JY acts as. But man this show - totally messes with my head in the best ways.

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Man. That's a creepy ending. I wonder if someone knows Jae Yeol's condition. He really needs help.

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The two different girls in the window, or an older version of the earlier one, was so subtle~ Well done to the director. It's definitely gotten everyone guessing about what it all means, which is one of this drama's strong points.

I think we're in uncharted territory for a drama. It's really refreshing!

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I think the manifestation of Kang Woo started after he killed his dad and it was the only way his brain was able to cope with it without breaking down and never getting back up again.

I also immediately thought the girl kang woo likes is Jae Yeol's high school crush? but now he's old, and she's old but his young self (that stayed the same age as when the incident happened) still thinks of her as the same age.

One thing I thought was weird was him wearing the baseball cap before he went to bed.. i was slightly creeped out by that.

ALSO, WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT LITTLE DANCE HE DID? OMG SO ADORABLE <3

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Now a few people have mentioned it!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have seen this in dramas before: a guy puts on a cap before sleeping. And I always assumed it had something to do with their hair being smooth in the morning. No?

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i think kang woo came after the club stabbing and thus change in his writing which became darker.
i think the baseball cap Jy could be ...wait for it....another personality.
EXHIBIT A dude changed at first without it ,then again puts it on just to listen to music while watching her sleep...hmm
EXHIBIT B the guy at the talk show with cap when they asked about actually killing someone replacing kang woo who raised his hand for wanting to kill someone.
EXHIBIT C the law of kdrama states that the guy wearing a cap is the bad guy springing into action to do very bad things ,all except the city hunter.

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So, there will be a new personality added for JY? The one who is so lovingly with HS in the preview of episode 5? Interesting...

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But KW was there when he was stabbed by his brother. That would have been a very fast coping mechanism.

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Yes!! That jiggy dance was adorable! Plus his little moves in the DJ box!

At any rate, I'm glad that he dances better than he did in that wacky promo dance video before the start of this show!

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Hae-soo thinks so too - she was trying to imitate it at the very end when she watches/rewatches the video of him watching her sleep. It was cute...

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I hope the mother didn't falsely testify against Jae-bum. If she did, I don't know how she can look him in the eye. You don't throw one son under the bus to protect the other.
Nobody deserves to be imprisoned when they didn't commit a crime.

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I was wondering about the mother's testimony too. Why would his brother go to jail if she just testified that she didn't see Jae-Yeol do it? Man I feel like I need to rewatch some of these scenes...which is a good thing in my book! You can't be a passive watcher.

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And - to be completely callous - particularly if Jae Yeol was a minor at the time, as he wouldn't have received as harsh a sentence.

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The final scene with an exhilarated Jael-yeol running and the camera panning to show no-one is beside him is just wonderful. So cinematic and creepy! I do wonder just when Kang-woo showed up in his life though. I think it might be fairly recently.

Hae-soo's sister says that she is a fan of Jael-yeol's work but Hae-soo herself stopped liking his books when they changed. He's now writing about serial killers and women being victims. Kang-woo is also writing novels in which either he dies or Jael-yeol does.

Something awful happened when Jael-yeol was in his mid-teens probably as the culmination of years of violence and abuse. His brother says that he is responsible for the death of their abusive (step?) father but just because he says it doesn't make it true. Jael-yeol says he suffers from something like OCD but it seems as if it is just a coping mechanism to escape the chaos of his inner life and the trauma of his past.

Everything in Jael-yeol's life has to be rigidly compartmentalized. His plagiarizing ex-girlfriend complains that he put their relationship in the strictly sex partners' box. He lives in multiple boxes and the strain of keeping everything in his life separated is getting too much. So Kang-woo, as the unacknowledged manifestation of his chaotic past, shows up with his novel(s) saying either he or Jael-yeol will have to die.

I don't think Jael-yeol is a stalker exactly in that he is stalking a specific young teenaged girl he liked in his past who is now a grown woman. He is seeing things through the eyes of the darkness and chaos that Kang-woo represents so any young woman will do. But this behaviour is going to get him into big trouble none the less as he's the one who will be recognized for engaging in inappropriate behaviour.

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I am still debating whether Jae-yeol loses time/lives a double life as Kang-woo. As HeadsNo2 mentioned, Jae-yeol is an unreliable narrator. Did he really invite the student (OH SO-NYEO) in? or was it "Kang-woo"?
He seemed happy to see his brother even after he was stabbed. Almost like he wasn't in the moment nor did he seem to understand why his brother would be upset.
He puts on that baseball cap and dances around then walked into the bathroom (for the night?) after talking with Kang-woo too.
With each encounter it seems like he drops everything, meets with Kang-woo/shares a moment with him, then separates from reality.
Or maybe I'm reading too much into it again...

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Thanks for the recap.

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Creepy indeed. I never thought that they will reveal it this early but I like it. I am always fond of these kinds of stories like Secret Window and Identity. I'm glad that his mom is not a figment of his imagination because it will be depressing.

I'm excited to see when Hae-soo finds out about Jae-yeol's imaginary friend.

Thanks for the recap!

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Hi! Ive been a fan of this site, lurking and all. This is my first comment to show hiw much i love the premise of this drama.

This is so great man, i love love this drama. Not to mention how hot JIS is and GHJ cool portrayal of annoying attending of psychiatry teehee.
But somehow, my guess is that Jae yeol is reliving his brother early life instead of reliving his own life. His brother might have a case of persecution complex and keep blaming his brother and mother for his action, he keeps looking for a crack to explain how he is being framed, that desperate as to turn to Amytal. As some crazy does run in genes, it could be said young Jae Yeol was prone to mental illness as well and while being unable to save his beloved brother, his guilt increase and personized into kang woo, to atone his guilt he tries to nurture and console his young brother. Which explain why he said, kang woo only wants friendship. Because he longs for his brother friendship.

Well this may be a crazy theory, but the next week promo does leave this to be possible. Dont want to spoil as some choose not to watch that part. Hehe

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Loved this episode. I'm also surprised we learned Kang Woo was a figment of his imagination/hallucination so early on.

Side Note: I'm if the NY hats mean anything. In the first episode Kang Woo wears a white NY hat. In this episode, Jae-yeol wears a black NY hat.

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So he is KW while watching HS sleep? He might say something later and then HS show the video and the secret will come out?

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Loved this episode. I'm also surprised we learned Kang Woo was a figment of his imagination/hallucination so early on.

Side Note: I'm curious if the NY hats mean anything. In the first episode Kang Woo wears a white NY hat. In this episode, Jae-yeol wears a black NY hat.

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I don't think that JY has a double life as KW. I think he just have a hallucination. I just re-watched the first episode and found this out.

When HS and JY was in the talk show, JY asked people to raise their hand if they were ever think to hurt or kill someone, as you can see, KW raised his hand wearing the 88 T-shirt, besides the short-hair-ed- girl with grey shirt.

But in the last scene of the talk show, where HS giving her last word about "no matter how hard live is, there must be a way out", there is a scene, with a 'different' guy not KW, but wearing the same 88 T-shirt with the same seat beside the same short-hair-ed-girl with grey shirt.

Wah it's very detailed, thumbs up for this drama, I don't even realise that.

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Jae-Yeol's schizophrenic pathology was a given so the ending did not come as a surprise nor a creepy thing. Just a confirmation that he needs therapy. No less, no more.

HOWEVER... I find it curious that no theory has appeared regarding Hae-Soo's "man", although I might read too much into the writer's writing style. Wouldn't he be Hae-Soo's first love and another figment of Jae-Yeol's imagination, as a potential rival for Hae-Soo's affection or a younger brother/friend? Any other ideas?

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I don't think so, I think HS man is real, because the next episode shown that HS and friends are going to watch his concert. It just HS long lost friend imo :3 But I do agree, it's a Schizophrenia instead of multiple personality disorder.

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I think Jae Yeol wearing the baseball cap creeped me out because that is the main part of a Kdrama killer's uniform. Caps like that are usually tugged low so the culprits features will be in shadow and he can carry out his nefarious plans without his face being captured on CCTV. He was being filmed unknowingly. But the writers are playing with drama tropes and our unfamiliarity with his character. They want us to be suspicious but slightly excited at the same time just like Hae Soo. It's working because JY in that baseball cap was weird but hot at the same time.

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The cap part is very interesting. I don't know why he would put that on... And you mentioning that it being a part of a killers uniform is even creepier. And then jy goes to the bathroom to sleep... The idea of him sleeping there every night is very creepy too
Hs's man isn't jy's imaginary friend... He was seen by her family and was definetly on her phone.
Btw! I found the scene when Hs's ex came over and started taking stuff with jy's bickering was hilarious. Him mentioning the shirt he was taking off the rack was worn by hs was so funny.

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I think if he sleeps in the bathtub as an adult, it is probably because he used to hide from his stepdad in the bathtub as a kid. Sad but not creepy to me.

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Good thought; I'm inclined to believe that.

What is the reason why he's living with the housemates again? At first, I misunderstood that his old bathroom was being remodeled, but then after rewatching that part in episode 2, is it actually because reporters were gathered at his apartment to grill him about the plagiarism incident? Now that that's resolved, why doesn't he just move back home?

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Jo In Sung playing that scene with a straight face while asking him about red panties made it funnier. But how the hell do these people get into their house? Hae Soo's ex-boyfriend rang the doorbell but let himself in before Jae Yeol got to the door. Then So Nyeo was just wandering around helping herself to their things. They really ought to lock their door.

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