Scholar Who Walks the Night: Episode 2
by girlfriday
I like! Scholar Who Walks the Night is a fun mix of fantasy and romance that’s well executed and sticks to the basics — a strong central character who’s more than human but struggles to be more human than anyone. I’m also happy to say that I like our heroine, who has the harder job of establishing herself in the second episode after that heartbreaking backstory we got yesterday. But she’s spunky and wily and even a bit of a fangirl, which grounds all of the fantasy in a perspective that we can relate to. Not that heart palpitations at the beautiful vampire scholar’s closeness needs explaining. Pretty sure that feeling is just universal.
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EPISODE 2 RECAP
We rewind to our crossdressing bookseller Yang-sun happily running into the gibang in search of the book-loving scholar. She’s a little hesitant when she comes upon a man sketching a portrait of a half-dressed gisaeng, but is relieved to learn that this isn’t the scholar she’s here to meet—he wouldn’t be doing such low-brow things, she decides.
Only she catches an eyeful of the sketch and her eyes bug out at the artistic skill. She runs inside and asks if this is really his own work, exclaiming at the realism and air-squeezing at boobs for emphasis. Well that’s one way to pass as a boy. She entreats him to consider illustrating books for her.
The artist is taken aback, but he seems mostly fixated on Yang-sun’s face. Does he recognize her? He asks for her name and gives his: LEE YOON (Changmin), and waits expectantly for her to answer. But then she’s called for her appointment with the scholar.
Again, the events in this scene are slightly varied from the one that closed out the last episode: Our vampire scholar Sung-yeol is hidden behind a privacy screen and requests the bookseller to track down Prince Jeonghyeon’s private diary.
Yang-sun’s runaway chipmunk sends her pawing all over Sung-yeol to catch it, and once she’s close up, she gapes at his beauty and Sung-yeol quickly raises his arm to cover his face. Of course the mutinous chipmunk bites her finger, and Sung-yeol immediately reacts to the smell of blood.
The gisaeng next to him is alarmed and calls an end to the meeting (so she must know he’s a vampire), but Sung-yeol tamps down his bloodlust and says it’s okay. Yang-sun is still staring at his pretty face and says aloud that he’s truly handsome. He tells her to get treated for her wound and walks out, and the gisaeng SU-HYANG (Jang Hee-jin) hands her the list of books to track down.
Yang-sun is thrilled to get the scholar as a client after months of legwork, and wonders about the prince’s diary on the list—there’s no Joseon prince named Jeonghyeon, so is it a work of fiction? Oh, so he’s been wiped from history altogether? Innnteresting.
Sung-yeol’s inner circle includes gisaeng Su-hyang and scholar Ho-jin, and they ask if Sung-yeol really believes that Prince Jeonghyeon’s diary might survive after he was wiped from the history books by evil vampire Gwi.
But Sung-yeol says it’s possible that the book was just in someone else’s hands this whole time, and he takes out two recently published novels under Prince Jeonghyeon’s pen name Eumlan Seosaeng.
Ho-jin wonders if someone plagiarized the prince’s work, but the others point out that every record of the prince’s existence has been erased. This is the reason why Sung-yeol has come to Hanyang, because these books first appeared here. The only thing he’s sure of is that this new Eumlan Seosaeng either knows of Prince Jeonghyeon, or has his original works.
Ha, and who should be distributing said books in the streets but our very own bookseller Yang-sun, who is quite the talented salesman. She reads enticing bits of the story with flair to a small crowd, then offers up copies to find out what happens next. The crowd gets dispersed when a pair of officers tromp over suspecting the distribution of forbidden literature, and Yang-sun hurriedly packs up her books and makes a run for it.
Our artist from the gibang Yoon has his friend look into Yang-sun’s identity, but is disappointed to learn that he isn’t Seo Jin, the person he was looking for. The friend says that it’s already been ten years, and even if Jin were alive, being the child of a traitor would mean living in hiding.
Yoon refuses to believe that Jin might not be alive, and says with determination that he’ll continue searching and believing as always.
Yang-sun returns home to her parents—a father who copies books, which is where she must’ve learned her trade, and a mother who’s prickly towards her for being her husband’s child out of wedlock.
Her half-sister Dam-yi is an illustrator, and she sketches as she asks Yang-sun about the beautiful scholar she saw. Yang-sun swoons as she says that he looked just like the night scholar she imagined, and was so beautiful she wanted to kiss him right then and there. She says that as soon as she laid eyes on him, the night scholar novel she’d been stuck on started to write itself in her head.
Dam-yi asks if unni really believes that vampires exist, and Yang-sun says that the night scholar isn’t just any vampire—he’s a good vampire who saves innocents and fights evil—and she swears that she heard a story directly from someone who saw him.
Yang-sun animatedly tells the tale of a group of human traffickers who were about to rape and sell a group of women and children, when the night scholar busted into their camp to save the day. I love that her story is punctuated with a comic book superhero entrance for The Night Scholar, complete with god-lighting.
Yang-sun stops her story just as the night scholar turns red-eyed and gets ready to chomp down on the baddies… and asks if that doesn’t make Dam-yi want to read her book. Yes! Hurry up and write it!
Dam-yi swoons and says that whether or not he’s real, the night scholar in unni’s novel is wonderful. Yang-sun insists that he’s real, and even hopes that someday he’ll read her novel and want to meet her. Yang-sun says that as soon as she makes enough money, they’ll fix Dam-yi’s leg.
Yang-sun’s story turns out to be true, because we see Sung-yeol standing over the human trafficker’s dead body as Su-hyang tells him that the women and children are safe and will never go hungry again.
She also reports that nothing shady came up in her background search on Yang-sun the bookseller, but she asks what happened to make him react that way earlier. He must be way more in control of his bloodlust than the average vamp if she’s surprised, but Sung-yeol says that he smelled a scent he couldn’t withstand—any longer and he would’ve ripped into Yang-sun’s throat.
He sighs that he’s a beast who could turn and eat people alive at any point. Su-hyang argues that Sung-yeol is better than any person she’s ever met, and says that if he gave her eternal life, she’d serve him forever.
Sung-yeol: “I crave the blood of the woman I love and sink my teeth into her neck as I make love to her—because that is a vampire’s true nature.” He asks angrily if she’s tempting him to turn her into a vampire, if she really thinks she wants to live that way.
He continues, “My heart is still human but my body craves the blood of the living. I resist and resist, but once a month I have to drink blood to survive. Do you know how many I have killed that way?”
He yanks out a dagger and stabs the corpse in front of him (ignoring Su-hyang’s warning about the moon), and the trafficker’s eyes flash red and he bares his fangs just before he dies. The moon gets covered in dark clouds as Sung-yeol kills him, and he lights the body on fire.
Evil vampire Gwi darts his eyes open at that moment, almost as if he can feel that vampire’s death. He stands on rooftops overlooking the city and muses that Sung-yeol is good at hiding just like Hae-seo before him, and wonders what he’s been up to for the last 120 years.
Sung-yeol lets Gwi chase him over rooftops, letting his presence be known but never letting him get too close. Gwi calls out to him and asks if killing all those vampires will do any good to relieve the anguish of his beloved giving up her life to save him.
Sung-yeol remembers the horror of drinking Myung-hee’s blood to live, and cries as he looks up at the sky and talks to her now: “I killed you. It’s gruesome and painful, but I will endure… so that I can kill him. So that I can end this beastly life.”
Yang-sun takes the time to teach peasant children how to read and write, and says that soon they’ll be able to read all their favorite stories about Jeon Woo-chi and Hong Gil-dong all on their own. A little boy says that he’s more eager to read about the night scholar by Moonlight Rebellion (Yang-sun’s pen name), and she promises to let them read for free.
That’s when a pair of loan sharks crashes her lesson to shove her around and ask how she’ll ever repay her debt if she’s letting people borrow books for free. She borrowed a large sum to pay for her father’s medicine, which has more than doubled now because of the shady loan shark.
Yang-sun assures them that she’s snagged an important book collector client and will repay them in no time, but the loan shark gives her three days to pay it all back or he’ll sell off her entire family.
Sung-yeol and his sidekick Ho-jin head to a house where Eumlan Seosaeng’s novels are said to have originated, but all they find is blank paper being made, and a trough full of fresh dead bodies. Sung-yeol says this isn’t Gwi’s handiwork—they died by the sword, which means that they aren’t the only ones looking for the same writer.
Elsewhere, a minion reports to an older man hidden behind a screen that everyone was dead by the time he arrived, but he couldn’t find the son. The older man tells him to find the son, who knows their faces, and to move up the timetable for their plan by distributing flyers tonight.
Yang-sun tries to sell her night scholar story to a group of gisaengs, who all prefer Eumlan Seosaeng’s works. She makes a pretty penny distributing those, and she overhears the gisaengs gossiping about “the scholar” and how no one can seem to land him in their beds, not even Su-hyang.
Yang-sun learns that they’re talking about Sung-yeol, and swoons a little to hear that he keeps women at a distance because he’s still heartbroken over the death of his first love. The others chime in with different rumors too, like maybe he’s broken down there, or prefers men.
They have fun teasing Yang-sun to be careful around Sung-yeol because he might like a man who’s pretty like a girl, but Yang-sun says that rumors must just follow Sung-yeol around because he’s so handsome.
Yoon bursts into the room and asks if she’s talking about him, and takes Yang-sun aside to show off his latest drawing. Hahaha, she just turns the book every which way with eyes bugged out while muttering, “That position… is it… possible?” Yoon brags that he doesn’t draw things he hasn’t experienced firsthand, and Yang-sun takes another appreciative look before declaring him amazing.
She feels Yoon staring at her and asks why, and he says that she just reminds him of a very good friend he lost ten years ago. He says that the friend ran away and left him behind, and took one half of something he treasured. He takes out a small brush case.
A flashback sends us to the palace, where a young Yoon is the prince. He asks his father if he can give his friend Jin half of the brush case that his father has passed down to him. His father and his advisor, Jin’s father, smile to each other at their sons’ friendship and watch happily as the boys each take half.
Yoon purposely watches Yang-sun’s face as she marvels at the brush case, and notes that she doesn’t seem to recognize it. He makes plans to meet her the next day to pick up some books, and she gets up to go meet Sung-yeol for a delivery.
Yoon’s friend runs up to tell him to flee, just as a large group of palace guards bursts through the gibang’s doors and starts tearing the place apart. They drag everyone who isn’t a gisaeng outside for inspection, and Yang-sun runs nervously from room to room trying to avoid getting caught with illegal books.
She tries every room and runs to Sung-yeol’s room at the very end, and thinks it’s empty because she doesn’t see him changing behind a screen. She flails nervously as the guards move closer, and opens a dresser to stash her books inside. Thinking quickly, she grabs the women’s hanbok tucked in there, and begins to undress.
Sung-yeol peers out over his screen and watches her curiously (she has a scar on her shoulder, which I’m pretty sure he sees), at first surprised when she undresses, and then amused. He notably doesn’t look away, either. The way he just stands there leisurely watching her change is making me a little woozy.
He finally decides to make his presence known, and says that she missed something important as he picks up the cloth that she had been using to bind her chest. Yang-sun’s heart leaps to her throat, but Sung-yeol picks now of all times to ask if she found the books he asked for. He’s impressed that she located the rare books, though she still hasn’t found the prince’s diary.
The guards get closer, and Yang-sun asks with pleading eyes for Sung-yeol to help her. He asks why he should, when she’s breaking the law masquerading as a man to sell books and could get him in trouble by association.
She fights tears as she says that she’s the breadwinner responsible for her family, and begs for his help just once, promising that she will never forget to repay the favor.
He reaches behind her to snap her headband off, and her topknot falls in a slow-motion cascade of hair. He takes a step closer and leans in until he’s right in her face: “How do you know what favor I will ask of you?”
Su-hyang stands at Sung-yeol’s door and warns the guards that they can’t disturb the very important guest staying here, but they ignore her and bust in anyway… to Sung-yeol half-dressed, lying on top of Yang-sun. Su-hyang is more surprised than anyone, and once the guards take a good look at Sung-yeol’s face, they’re convinced he’s just a patron and move along.
Sung-yeol laughs to hear that the guards have been sent to track down a prince who frequents the gibang, and he gets up abruptly, leaving Su-hyang to peer curiously at Yang-sun’s sudden transformation.
Yoon’s trusted friend sighs over the close call, wondering why the prince risked going to the gibang. Yoon just says breezily that at the gibang there are women and booze, and someone who looks like his friend.
But once they arrive at home, Yoon’s grandfather the king (Lee Soon-jae) is waiting for him. The king angrily tosses a scroll at him and says that there are flyers all over the city and demands from scholars that the prince be dethroned.
Yang-sun walks home in a daze, and finds the streets littered with that same flyer. One of her patrons runs up and asks if she knew who Eumlan Seosaeng was when she was selling those books, and whispers that it’s all from the diary of the late Prince Sadong (Yoon’s father).
Yoon is made to read the flyer aloud before the king, which says that Prince Sadong was framed as a traitor and put to death by a conspiracy between the power-hungry Norons and the king (hm, familiar much?). It also says that the same thing happened 120 years ago.
The king asks if Yoon really believes that he killed his son for power, and Yoon’s expression grows dark as he flashes back to his father, trapped in a dried-up well to starve to his death. It’s an overt Crown Prince Sado parallel, with little Yoon crying for the king to reconsider as he watches his father die a slow death.
Back in the present, Yoon says that Prince Sadong was not his father—he’s never forgotten that the king put a knife to his throat and told him so—and asks to be stripped of his position if he’s causing the king harm. But the king refuses to let the royal line end with him.
Sung-yeol is impressed by the flyer that’s been spread all over the city, since it would require a network of rebels with someone powerful behind them. He says they’re wrong though—it wasn’t the Norons or the king who killed Prince Sadong, but Gwi. He remembers seeing it himself as Gwi dragged Sadong out of the well and fed on him.
Sung-yeol decides that he needs to find Eumlan Seosaeng first, and figure out whether this person made the connection between princes Jeonghyeon and Sadong because he knows about Gwi.
Gwi has that same flyer in hand as he tells a frightened young girl all about how he killed Prince Sadong because he stole Jeonghyeon’s diary from Gwi and tried to get rid of him. He points up, where Sadong’s body is entombed inside the wall of his lair. Well that’s creepy.
He says that if this Eumlan Seosaeng has the diary, he must be killed too. He carries the little girl into a tub and asks if she wants to stay this young and beautiful forever, then drowns her in the water.
Yang-sun stares at her reflection in the river and thinks back to the night when she was hiding out in Sung-yeol’s room. The favor he asks of her is to find out who Eumlan Seosaeng is, and she hesitates. He lets her stew until the guards are just outside the door, then picks her up in his arms and carries her over to the bed.
He lies on top of her and unties his shirt, and she averts his gaze nervously as he inches ever closer, turning her face to meet his eyes. He leans in like he’s going to kiss her…
Back at the river, Yang-sun scoffs, “A scholar? A scholar among scholars who loves books? Yeah right!” She calls him a playboy and shouts huffily about how he toyed with her when her life was in danger and stomps off into the woods, unaware that someone is following her.
Sung-yeol’s friend hands him a book delivery from Yang-sun, and he’s shocked to find an original copy of Eumlan Seosaeng’s vampire novel, which Prince Jeonghyeon wrote 120 years ago to tell the world about the vampire secretly ruling the palace. All copies were believed to be burned in a fire, but somehow she got her hands on the original.
Yang-sun makes her way through the dark woods in search of Sung-yeol’s house, and feels someone behind her. No one’s there when she turns around, but then suddenly a ghostly young girl wafts toward her. Ack, it’s the little girl Gwi turned into a vampire.
Yang-sun approaches hoping to ask for directions, but then sees the girl’s glowing red eyes up close and takes off in a run. She’s no match for the vampire though, who appears in her path and picks her up with one hand, and tosses her against a tree.
The little vampire girl is about to bite down on her neck when Sung-yeol flies down and flings the little girl off. Gwi can sense what’s happening and smiles: “Kim Sung-yeol, at last you’ve taken my bait.”
Yang-sun looks up at Sung-yeol and gasps, “Who are you? Are you not human?” He turns to her, just as Gwi arrives in the forest.
COMMENTS
I do hope that yesterday’s cliffhanger being rewritten today is a fluke that won’t be happening on a regular basis, because I hate hate hate it when dramas set me up for fakeouts. Doing it the clever way (where the events we see can be interpreted differently) is one thing, but actually changing what happened and erasing events that we saw is confusing and annoying. This time it didn’t much matter that Sung-yeol didn’t vamp out in front of Yang-sun (though it’s totally different to say that he’s that in control of his bloodlust, methinks), but I can see it becoming a problem down the road when the stakes are life and death, if I can’t trust cliffhangers not to rewrite themselves in the next episode. Let’s stick to one version of the story, shall we?
It’s too bad that the crossdressing jig is already up, not that I really would’ve expected a vampire to be fooled by Yang-sun for long. I just liked that she was already an established bookseller who was known as a man throughout town, which made her disguise a little more believable, and gave Sung-yeol less reason to keep her at arm’s length. But perhaps we’ll get the best of both worlds if she continues to be a man to everyone except Sung-yeol, who gets to mess with her because he knows her secret. I like that he still has a cheeky side underneath all that broody exterior, which reminded me of how adorable he was as a human when he was the stray cat sneaking into his fiancée’s room. It still saddens me that he isn’t that guy anymore, but maybe Yang-sun will bring out that dormant romantic in him, and force him to engage with the living as more than just a hero in the shadows, waiting to finish his mission and die.
I’m curious about his penchant for the smell of her blood in particular—is there something supernaturally special about her, or is it just a way that his attraction to her manifests? It’s simultaneously intriguing and disturbing if he finds her extra delicious-smelling because he’s attracted to her, but vampire romances tend to specialize in playing that dangerous sexual tension, where resisting her becomes the ultimate test of willpower or expression of pure love. Sung-yeol is already established as an unusual vampire who can mostly resist his craving for blood and stays away from women so that he doesn’t repeat history with his first love, so the irresistible smell of Yang-sun’s blood will be narratively important—both to weaken his usual resolve and to give him something even harder to overcome. ‘Cause yunno, the tortured hero needs more things to be tortured and heroic about.
So far I like the way that our main players are being set up for the larger story ahead, with Prince Yoon picking up where Prince Jeonghyeon left off because of the unjust death of his father, and Yang-sun’s position in the story as the link between Yoon and Sung-yeol, who won’t want to work together but will need to work together. Not to mention her curious connection to all of Prince Jeonghyeon’s novels. I find her secret life as an author so endearing, with all of the swooning over heroic vampire scholars. It makes me more excited for her knowing that her cute fangirl dreams will come true, though I trust that Sung-yeol will manage to show her exactly how much she shouldn’t want her fantasies to be real. But I think her sunniness will be infectious in a great way. A guy could stand to smile once a century while he’s waiting to save the world, right?
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1 jensredshoes
July 9, 2015 at 8:12 PM
Oh man! I don't want to WANT to watch this show right now. It'll be too hard to wait for the episodes each week so I hoped to watch after it's complete. But LJK is making that impossible! Curse all that pretty and talent!
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2 fantasy
July 9, 2015 at 8:33 PM
is there any rule wed-thurs drama to have good looking sexy villains??? really LSH's voice !!!! omo .... well still the bgm and special effects bothered a little because I have seen special effects better in K dramas :)
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 8:59 PM
+1
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Lilly
July 9, 2015 at 10:59 PM
This show is in hot guys maximum overdrive
Wheeeeee..........
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3 Gidget
July 9, 2015 at 8:35 PM
Loving this show.
In the scene where the prince was looking for his friend Seo Jin, the subs said he'd be living as a slave somewhere. My honest first thought was 'he's in Jeongseon!' Oh how I hope they throw in some meta here!
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4 JuDa
July 9, 2015 at 8:37 PM
this drama looks like it will only get better..but this drama will only topped the wed-thu drama ratings just when Mask ended..both are so fun..
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 8:57 PM
Mask already solid in rating and viewership, which it may difficult to beat it. However, if SWWTN can maintain its momentum, nothing is impossible...
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Kiara
July 9, 2015 at 9:28 PM
I am really looking forward to watching "Assembly" but I am not happy that it is going to compete with Scholar next week. I think it's going to be really good but that doesn't always mean it will have good ratings.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 10:06 PM
the competition for wed-thurs is really tough.
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Sintia
July 10, 2015 at 1:41 AM
Ratings for SWWTN are so low. Why?((
pigsnout
July 10, 2015 at 1:45 AM
Ratings are generally low now, even W&Cozy which aired before SWWTN started with lower ratings than SWWTN has got.
7 percent is actually quite good for a premiere ep now. Hopefully it doesn't fall any more and goes up.
Kiara
July 10, 2015 at 9:40 AM
Current wed/thur shows pilot episode:
1. Scholar who walks the night: 7.7%
2. Mask: 7.5%
3. Masked Prosecutor: 6.8%
Jan
July 10, 2015 at 3:04 PM
The Wed/Thu shows which started in the Spring season also premiered with low ratings:
1. Warm & Cozy: 6.3%
2. Girl Who See Smells: 5.6%
I wonder what's happened to the Korean audience of yesteryears.
fgb4877
July 11, 2015 at 1:06 PM
Dear Sintia, If I can give you my own 2 cents.
Overall the TV shows lately have been mostly subpar. That means almost every show that have been airing in a long time is mediocre at best (in that sense, thanks Healer and Producers to get out of the average). Since there is no quality program being aired (which would tend to get more ratings and monopolize viewership), the ratings are evenly distributed since quality-wise they are almost the same thing, and only thematically different. It is simply a matter of statistics.
Of course I know it is a really hard comment. I apologize if there is someone being indignated about my opinion (wich is only mine and can be wrong). Cheers!.
5 Gidget
July 9, 2015 at 8:42 PM
Loving this show!
In the scene where the prince was looking for his friend Seo Jin, the subs said he'd be living is a slave somewhere. He's in Jeongseon! Oh how I hope the show gives us a meta cameo....
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6 Ek Ladhki Thi
July 9, 2015 at 8:54 PM
I can just imagine Lee Soo-hyuk holding a skull doing his best Hamlet impression. I wonder if he has ever done theatre.
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7 ty
July 9, 2015 at 8:54 PM
It saddens me how much flak Lee Yubi is getting for her Yang Sun by Korean netizens, so I'm glad that some people still like her like me.
And wow, is it just me, or is that one instrumental track really similar to the one in Mask? (I think it's the one with the cello...)
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Kay
July 9, 2015 at 8:59 PM
Really? why? I actually like her alot more in her role. Im not too impress with Kim So eun so far but I see she returns later so we will see how that goes.
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fantasy
July 9, 2015 at 9:09 PM
why??? her cross dressing is bang on!!!! sometimes I feel the role was meant to her only.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 9:14 PM
Korean netizens didnt flak LYB, as far as i know, she loved by many.. and many have positive review for her..but some KSE fans did criticized her, but still its not big. if the flak from Knetz is so much, it might be impossible for LYB to get the role, most likely will be like Jin Se yeon..
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AA
July 9, 2015 at 9:31 PM
I haven't read any negative feedback for LYB or from KSE fans from the thread I've visited (of course I don't visit all threads so i can't speak for all). I think people are over critical so early on. I say, give it time for story to develop.
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 10:02 PM
ikr. thats y i confused why some ppl still wanna talk about how LYB was mistreated, which is not even true.
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pigsnout
July 9, 2015 at 10:25 PM
It's not untrue though. LYB did get mean comments from KSE fans (u can tell from avatar/sig in forums) when she was cast. I hope it stops now.
ty
July 9, 2015 at 11:39 PM
I saw a lot of critical comments on Naver, and like you said, they should give some time for the story to develop.
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Kiara
July 9, 2015 at 10:30 PM
Sera, not everyone is a fan of Yubi and she is going to be criticized. I know that you already know that. It happens to every actor out there even our bias.
Lets not bring up KSE's fans again please. Just let it go and enjoy the show :).
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pigsnout
July 9, 2015 at 10:44 PM
I agree with this, better to not mention any more.
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AA
July 10, 2015 at 9:48 PM
I visited the Soompi thread and I did see these users that you've mentioned that has KSE on their siggy or picture but I haven't read anything ill they've said about LYB. In fact, I've had some private messages from them regarding the drama (once again, I am a lurker and not active on the thread). If anything, these KSE fans you speak of simply just do not mention LYB or her character in most of their posts. And there's nothing wrong with that unless you believe the lack of mentions in their thread is bothersome.
Maybe you should mention specifics of who these KSE fans are from the Soompi thread that are speaking ill of LYB. For the most part, I believe fans of the actors/actresses has been supportive of the drama and of each other. That is why I am surprised that you keep bringing up KSE fans are saying bad things about LYB in the Soompi thread when that is not the case.
⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 11:26 PM
@kiara i'm proudly KSE fan but i wont bash LYB anywhere no matter how much i skip her scenes in her previous drama (im trying my best to see her from another perspective in this drama :)
maybe my words above not rightly delivered and well understood, but i just tried to brief that LYB is not really critized by knetz. but i mistakenly highlight about some of KSE fans.
@pigsnout u're also the one who keep mentioning about LYB get the mean comments from KSE fans. like me who upset with those who keep mentioning about KSE's fans gave a mean comment / bashing towards LYB, you also upset when someone says something unfavourable towards LYB..
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Kiara
July 9, 2015 at 11:43 PM
I'm sorry sera it was meant for Yubi's fans.
civilsecret
July 12, 2015 at 12:06 AM
i like her as well but i do have some issue with her, yeah she is quite spunky but she is really innocent as well, i would have liked more attitude from her especially towards jun ki in the room after he saw her change even though it was his room. idk maybe thats just my preference and it most likely is because of that. for me she is kind of missing a little oomph. a bit too sweet for my taste but i'll wait to see the story progress
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8 Kdr
July 9, 2015 at 8:57 PM
I was so trying hard refreshing the site for new updates. I think LJK looks so cool. Thanks for the fast recaps. :)
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9 wunny
July 9, 2015 at 8:57 PM
Omo I love this show, wow wow wow. I can't wait I want the ep3 nw :'( :'(
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10 Kay
July 9, 2015 at 8:59 PM
May I ask where you guys are watching this? I need to get to ep 2 asap! Im dying watching the ep 3 preview already. =(
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 9:01 PM
dramacool, but not sure it got subs already or not.
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Kiara
July 9, 2015 at 10:34 PM
Viki is the only legal site that has the license to sub it. So even though I hate the constant disconnects and the annoying ads. I want to support their hard work by watching it there.
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Lin_K
July 9, 2015 at 10:47 PM
If you take the Viki pass, you can watch without ads :)
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Kiara
July 10, 2015 at 6:09 AM
I just don't want to pay for another account cause I'm already paying for Netflix, DF etc.
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AJK
July 10, 2015 at 7:04 PM
Just a thought based on my experience -- before I got the Viki pass, I found Viki much more reliable from a tech standpoint than DF. I watched streaming and never downloaded and can't remember the last time I had a problem with it, even with ads. DF drove me nuts; every time it broke for an ad, it seemed to get stuck in an ad loop. So maybe Viki instead of DF?
AA
July 10, 2015 at 9:50 PM
Make sure to buy the VIKI package during the holidays (specifically Christmas) because they are half off. I paid $35 for the VIKI pass.
AA
July 10, 2015 at 9:50 PM
BTW, that's $35 for the year pass. Not sure if they'll raise it this coming holiday.
Kiara
July 10, 2015 at 10:01 PM
Thanks guys :).
civilsecret
July 12, 2015 at 12:09 AM
a lot of people use adblock, you can pretty much watch it without ads from what i read in the comment section while watching eps. so idk
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Lin_K
July 9, 2015 at 10:45 PM
Viki
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fantasy
July 9, 2015 at 11:05 PM
Viki subbed the 2nd episode???
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Lin_K
July 9, 2015 at 11:26 PM
91% now. Viki starts subbing as soon as the episode is uploaded. On some days it can be a bit slower but most of the time, the subbing is super fast. If the show is very popular, the subbing will be complete within 3-4 hours of uploading.
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fantasy
July 9, 2015 at 11:40 PM
That's why, cause 1st ep was subbed really fast, for 2nd ep, till now there is no sub
Lin_K
July 9, 2015 at 11:46 PM
@fantasy - Yeah, it was slower today. No sub till now? I was able to watch with some subs before. There were only some scenes missing them.
11 ⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 9:08 PM
still dont watch epi 2 but more excited for epi 3 when present KSE will appear.. :)
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12 Irene
July 9, 2015 at 9:22 PM
Lee Yoo-Bi and Lee Joon-Gi have great chemistry. I am so happy that she is the main actress not the other one.
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pigsnout
July 9, 2015 at 10:08 PM
That scene when he watches her change .......just WOW. They didn't even do anything, he just looked at her but it was so sexy...
I actually started to like her more in the scene where she pleads with him to help her hide. Up to then she was a cute and bright character but suddenly she became pure desperation. LYB did that scene very well.
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Kiara
July 9, 2015 at 10:50 PM
I maybe in the minority here but I don't quite feel that kind of chemistry between them yet. It's going to take a while but it's going to be fun watching them fall for each other. That is if they are going to follow the manwha.
Right now I enjoy their comedic scene together especially when they first met. I hope there is more.
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pigsnout
July 10, 2015 at 1:51 AM
They are not totally lacking though. They are not yet on Yoo Yeon Seok/Kang Sora level but I don't get the kind of flat feeling from them that I do from couples who lack all romantic chemistry, at least they give off a feeling like I want to see their future interactions.
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Kiara
July 10, 2015 at 6:55 AM
I do agree and I'm talking about the romantic chemistry and how it will take time to develop. It doesn't mean that they don't have any chemistry at all.
Sung-yeol and Mung-hee were already in love with each other when they appeared so their lovey dovey moments and skinship were natural and not forced.
I hope this writer will let it happen gradually and naturally. I hate it when it's forced.
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Irene
July 10, 2015 at 8:40 AM
Their first interaction was perfect. I like that kind of comedy-erotic vibe between them.
I also hate it when they force it, as a matter of fact, I did like him with the other actress too, but I felt their relationship a bit unnatural and forced from the lady's side. No idea why and it doesn't matter :) , but I am happy that the new one is different. Will see how it goes later.
pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
July 10, 2015 at 8:59 AM
As long as they don't resort to the old 'falling on top of each other and suddenly realising the other person is a guy/girl' thing, I'm good.
That said, I love how openly Yang-sun crushes on him, and how in two blinks of an eye it can turn to terror as she pleads with him to save her from the palace guards. And we have got a surprising amount of skinship for two episodes in - we already have a bed scene! And undressing!
Jan
July 10, 2015 at 2:49 PM
Actually, the old 'falling on top of each other and suddenly realising the other person is a guy/girl’ trope happened in the manhwa, but it was between Yang Sun and the Hunter, who does not seem to be in the drama adaptation.
pinkerina8
July 10, 2015 at 4:29 PM
@ Jan
i'm sorry i'm new here and not sure how this comment thing works and why there isn't a reply to to your comment but i wanted to ask where i can read the original manhwa. love the drama but i really wanted to see the original manhwa this is based on. is it translated? thanks
Lin_K
July 9, 2015 at 10:50 PM
I really like both the actresses with LJK. KSE and LJK's interactions were cute in ep.1; and the scene of her passing was heartbreaking. LYB and LJK have great chemistry. Loved their scenes together in this episode.
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13 pigsnout
July 9, 2015 at 9:28 PM
@ty - LYB is getting some positive comments after the drama started though, there is a strong bias against her but many people seem to think her acting is natural and her cross dressing is well done.
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Sharon
July 9, 2015 at 11:26 PM
Can you explain why there's a strong bias against her? Is it because Kim So Eun fans feel she deserves the lead more than Lee Yu Bi? Or is it for another reason?
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 11:28 PM
@pigsnout lets see how well u will explain here.
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Lin_K
July 9, 2015 at 11:37 PM
I think it's because LYB's mom is a famous actress. She was in Dae Jang Geum. So there were rumors that she got the role because of her mom's influence. I think she is a good actress and has done her roles well.
KSE is also a good actress. She has more saguek experience than LYB. Maybe that's why some people felt that it was unjust. I was bummed at first that she was not the lead. Not because LYB was bad but because I wanted to see KSE in a lead role :)
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pigsnout
July 9, 2015 at 11:43 PM
@sera I'm not sure why you phrased it that way but I don't want to reply in a similar tone to the one you used here.
@Sharon - ty was talking about some Korean netizens comments about Yoobi which if you look on translation sites like kkuljaem, have been hating on her for a while and saying she got this role only because of nepotism even though other comments say her acting is ok. That has nothing to do with what I mentioned noticing in international drama fan sites.
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Yuki
July 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM
Sad to hear these news. I watched Yu Bi in Gu Family Book and she stole the show, she was the only reason I kept watching, so intense and well acted!! I quickly became a big fan of hers.
She is talented and deserves the role, I hope she will shut up all the critics soon with a great performance :)
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AA
July 10, 2015 at 9:55 PM
There's no bias against KSE fans towards LYB. @pigsnout has been trying to start something against KSE fans since episode 1 caps on DB. It's starting to get really ridiculous.
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Kathia
July 10, 2015 at 1:00 AM
I really like Lee Yoo Bi. I thought she was great in Gu Family Book. But I like her more here as Yang Sun. She is so cute and bright without bein' annoying, her sunny personality makes up for all the darkness that shows in the drama. (and she's the first cross-dressing character that I really like, she's a ray of light, she got skills as a book seller, she's comical, day-dreaming, and she actually writes books. I think her character is awesome).
It isn't meant as a spoiler because I don't know if I'm right or not. But does anyone see the connection between Eumlan Seosaeng and Yang Sun's father? I never seen the manwha nor do I know details of the story, but her father copies books (hence the similar handwriting as dead Crown Prince). Even more, Yoon's father had stolen the diary from Gwi and died because of it, but Gwi didn't find the diary, maybe it's with Yang Sun's father? It will explain why her family was accused of treason, because of Yang Sun's father connection with Yoon's father.
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pigsnout
July 10, 2015 at 1:18 AM
I thought she was great in Gu Family Book, very natural but at the same time emotional and intense. I like her a lot as Yang Sun, she brings a brightness and cute side, but I think that she shines most when she shows emotion. Like the scene where she is half dressed and asking Sung Yeol to help her out, you can feel how desperate she is. I hope she gets to show more sides of her skills rather than just being cute and adorable.
SPOILER FROM PREVIOUS DRAMA INFO
we know Yang Sun is the daughter of a traitor and now living in hiding, but she has no memory of her past life. We don't even know if her dad now is her dad from back then. Maybe he is, and they are all in hiding? Maybe he had a job in the royal library so that's how she can get connections to all those royal books even after he loses his job? But her current mother isn't her biological mother, that is for sure.
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Kathia
July 10, 2015 at 6:48 AM
Quite a mystery indeed. I thought at first the long lost friend Lee Yoon is trying to find was her, but it's a boy, and Yang Sun is a girl. I hope that the drama doesn't make her cross-dressing even when she was a child, poor thing.
Does anyone have read the manwha? I'm trying to find with english subtitles but with no luck...
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Kiara
July 10, 2015 at 6:57 AM
There is no English translation yet :(.
pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
July 10, 2015 at 8:29 AM
yeah, I really wonder if the kid Yoon is searching for is someone he knew as a boy or a girl. Going by the childhood flashback, it seems to be a boy but his expression pretty much says it's Yang-sun.....does that mean she was a childhood cross-dresser too? lol the questions, the questions....
AA
July 10, 2015 at 9:53 PM
I am starting to think you have something against KSE and KSE fans. Why do you keep mentioning that KSE fans are saying negative things about LYB especially on the SOOMPI page. For someone who has been regularly visiting the drama's SOOMPI page, this is FALSE INFORMATION.
@pigsnout, please stop spreading hate between LYB and KSE fans. Both sides have been supportive from each other from what I've read especially through the SOOMPI page.
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July 12, 2015 at 12:23 AM
I haven’t read any negative feedback for LYB or from KSE fans from the thread I’ve visited
@pigsnout is right about this much, though, you and @sera are the ones who first mentioned Kim So-eun's fans in relation to alleged criticism of Yubi in the episode 2 recap.
As far as I can see, @pigsnout isn't spreading hate, she's (I presume it's a she) is just responding to your refusal to acknowledge what she was saying and the accompanying implication that she's a liar.
I used to visit the thread myself, and back in April/May when the casting news was on. I don't remember all the names involved, but I do remember anjiwoo being particularly negative and specifically identifying as a Kim So-eun fan. And then the forum went through a temporary migration and reorganisation so a lot of posts from that time were lost or messed up, which may be why you don't see them now. Or maybe you interpreted them a different way, idek.
tl;dr - pigsnout didn't make those things up, and even if there wasn't negativity about Yubi in recent pages on soompi, there was enough in the past that more than one person noticed and has now commented on it.
And I'd suggest dropping the accusations and personal attacks on commenters, especially when they haven't done anything of the sort to you.
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14 susan
July 9, 2015 at 9:44 PM
Hahahahaha! This plot has as many holes as Swiss cheese. But the show is so full of really *pretty* characters and beautiful cinematography, that I don't care at all.
I've decided I'm Team Gwi. He's a totally underdeveloped character, but Lee Soo-hyuk has great screen presence and is clearly having fun with his over-the-top characterization.
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Lin_K
July 9, 2015 at 10:51 PM
What are the plot holes here? I'm curious because I don't see any yet.
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Lilly
July 9, 2015 at 11:07 PM
Maybe the plot holes are behind the smoldering eyes, sexy smiles, and abs somewhere? I don't know.
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Lin_K
July 9, 2015 at 11:39 PM
Hahahaha that made me laugh!
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susan
July 10, 2015 at 8:37 AM
If you look down thread, I've answered with the plot holes from Episode 1. I'll do ep 2 later.
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Dahlia
July 9, 2015 at 11:47 PM
If you don't think about it too deeply, it's great. ;) (I know I personally keep wondering why Sungyeol didn't try to kill Gwi at the end of ep 1--did he figure the boulder killed him, despite the warning of the elder vampire? He was in such a rage and then sorrow and he just... what, cleaned up and went home?) I'm still really enjoying it, mostly because the story is just strong enough despite the holes and the cast is really great. Like you, I've been particularly enjoying LSH chewing the scenery.
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pigsnout
July 10, 2015 at 12:50 AM
Yeah what happened after he drank Myung Hee's blood? I understand if he can't kill Gwi because he doesn't know the method, but did he actually just leave what he thought was Myung Hee's dead body, in the cave with Gwi? Did she actually even die or was there enough life in her for Gwi to wake up and make her a vampire? Or did he take her out and cremate her like the concubine whose funeral Jeonghyeon went to?
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Dahlia
July 10, 2015 at 2:08 AM
I'm assuming we'll see what happened to Myung Hee's body whenever Kim So Eun's new(?) character shows up, but right now I'm definitely wondering the same things you are. Is she definitely dead? Is she a vampire? Is she a North Korean spy?--Wait, wrong drama. I just really wish we'd seen some of the immediate aftermath of that scene, because leaving it open left us with so many questions.
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pigsnout
July 10, 2015 at 4:11 AM
Nooooo please don't let this become Vampire Stranger. ..
osmanthustea
July 10, 2015 at 9:30 AM
No no no. Maybe it'll be more like Gu Family Book?
pogo - sailing HMS Queen of Tears and HMS Sailboat Lovely Runner🍉
July 10, 2015 at 11:04 AM
I can only hope that Sung-yeol doesn't forget about the all-important book the way GFB forgot the, you know, Gu Family Book. Though at least SWWTN doesn't have the book right in its title.
Lin_K
July 10, 2015 at 11:57 PM
@pogo - Hahahha. I really hope it doesn't become like Gu Family Book. Or Doctor Stranger. LJK only comes on screen once a year. I need a good drama from him!
fantasy
July 10, 2015 at 12:52 AM
@dahlia
Seriously what cleaned up and went home???? Ha ha :D and he also drank blood, gained strength still did not attack him, when Gwi was unconscious and weak !!!!
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pigsnout
July 10, 2015 at 1:03 AM
Maybe he didn't see Gwi under the boulder and thought he just got up and walked off? It was a huge boulder lol.
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fantasy
July 10, 2015 at 1:08 AM
Pfffftttttt :P
Dahlia
July 10, 2015 at 2:11 AM
Heehee, I like this idea.
"Well, I flung that guy in a column and I don't see him now so I guess he must have left...."
Jan
July 10, 2015 at 3:41 AM
Maybe he went up in smoke. LOL.
Dahlia
July 10, 2015 at 2:10 AM
Right? I was expecting him to fling that rock off of him and to at least try to rip him apart, like he'd promised, even if it wouldn't be enough to actually kill Gwi. But I guess he just left? lol
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July 10, 2015 at 1:17 AM
maybe later on it will revealed..what happened actually..
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pigsnout
July 10, 2015 at 1:41 AM
I hope they don't keep doing it like the rewind part at the beginning of this ep. Or they should at least write and cut scenes to clearly show that there is something we didn't see/we should see from.a different pov. Not give us what looks like a full scene and then show 'oops that wasn't it! Look there's more!"
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Jan
July 10, 2015 at 2:17 AM
I agree with Sera. I think they deliberately did not show us what happened to keep us in suspense. For instance, I'm wondering what happened to Myung Hee. Did she really die? Purposely leaving the audience in the dark does not equate to plot holes.
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susan
July 10, 2015 at 8:35 AM
Plot Holes Part One
Episode 1:
*Why does the king keeps getting the concubines ready when he knows Gwi will kill them successively?
Ummmm…. if Gwi does this every time there’s a change of king, then wouldn’t the king know he’s going to do this and not bother having concubines readied?
*Motivation of Gwi to rule over the humans
This is the single biggest plot hole. What on earth does Gwi get out of the bargain? Eyeliner? Sheer clothing? A weave? More candles? He lives in a damp cave. He’s not enjoying any of the comforts of human habitats - so what does he actually control?
*Why does everyone seem so oblivious in and around the palace?
It’s a palace. Everyone trades in information in the palace. That’s how the power structure works. But this palace seems to be able to keep the enormous secrets of a vampire who orders the king around, dead concubines and burning bodies. I’m pretty sure in a normal palace that they pick through the king’s poop to see if he’s healthy. Pretty hard to hide the really big stuff.
Why does sword boy not recognize the king’s guards? If Sung-yeol is besties with the Prince, shouldn’t he have an inkling about palace matters?
* Why doesn’t the Prince confide in Sung-yeol sooner?
The Prince is out and about writing novels about Gwi and seeking out vampire texts with his closest friend in a lighthearted way (whilst the concubines are being killed) without feeling the need to confide? Wouldn’t this friend be your best support in a crisis? (Please don’t answer that he didn’t want to ruin the friend’s wedding. Vampire problems >> wedding bliss. And these are guys - not girls.)
Why doesn’t the Prince let his friend in on the guardian’s secret plan after he finally learns about vampires? I mean, he takes him all the way to vampire cottage in the woods, but they don’t discuss the plan beyond saying ‘I’ve got it in my diary’ and I’ll send it to you if I’m already dead.
Why is the plan in a book he has but nowhere else? Why no safeguards?
* Is Gwi a secret or not?
How did the first Joseon king know to approach Gwi if he was such a secret?
How come the current king never explained to the Prince to what Gwi could do? Kid’s out and about chatting and writing about secret plans with no concerns about getting caught
Why did the Prince have the motivation to say “Sung-yeol-ah, I want to create a world of hope for people. Will you do it with me?” if he didn’t know about Gwi?
*Hae-seo, the Guardian
How did the Prince meet the Guardian?
What are these mysterious rules surrounding guardianship? Are these also lost to antiquity? Or did Sung-yeol magically get them from the bite?
* Why is Gwi letting Sung-yeol live / why is Sung-yeol letting Gwi live?
Mostly well covered in the thread above.
One thought: Why did Gwi go to so much trouble to save Sung-yeol from the market place (one must assumes he did, because giant...
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susan
July 10, 2015 at 8:36 AM
One thought: Why did Gwi go to so much trouble to save Sung-yeol from the market place (one must assumes he did, because giant hole in plot here) and try to feed him blood?
*Creation of vampires
Why didn’t the fiancee live as a vampire? Not enough full moon?
If it’s this easy to create a vampire, why aren’t there hoards? Do vampires go around burning all their victims? Especially since the one guardian had been in hiding for 200 years. There ought to be some vampire mayhem by the early part of the story.
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fantasy
July 10, 2015 at 10:06 AM
Wow!!!! Seriously why did Gwi let Sung Yeol live??? So that we can see how he get revenge??
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Kiara
July 10, 2015 at 10:41 AM
Gwi should have killed him and end the show at eps 1 lol.
susan
July 10, 2015 at 11:23 AM
@Kiara
That would have made a lot of people sad! This show has a lot of *ahem* visual appeal! :-)
And plot holes aside, it's a really fun show. The plot holes actually make it better - because I can laugh at it and enjoy it at the same time.
Kiara
July 10, 2015 at 11:40 AM
Just playing with ya! <3
susan
July 10, 2015 at 11:41 AM
:-)
Dahlia
July 10, 2015 at 6:29 PM
I agree with all of the plot holes you've pointed out--and that the show is still plenty of fun despite them lol. Good job, cast!
My suspicion with the last one, as to why Gwi had Sungyeol brought to him, was that word got passed through the palace to him (somehow, since as you noted this world has a strange sense of palace gossip) that they'd knocked out a vampire and he got curious. He didn't know what was up with Sungyeol right away and might have been suspicious that there was another vampire roaming around creating new ones, aside himself and the older vampire. But Sungyeol made it pretty clear who he was after that lol.
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susan
July 10, 2015 at 8:27 PM
There also seems to be this unexplained thing where one vampire can sense another that Sung Yeol learned to outwit at some point.
Okay
July 10, 2015 at 1:23 PM
Pretty sure all of your questions/those really long "plot holes" comment(s) you've posted will be answered as the drama progresses. It's no fun if they reveal everything during the pilot episode. Plus it's just the first two episodes! Let's complain about how "the plot of this drama has many holes" when the it is already coming to an end lol
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susan
July 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM
I'm not complaining. I'm answering a question above.
And, yes, they probably will fill a few of those plot holes as we go along. And they'll probably add a bunch more as we go on. It's that kind of fun and breezy drama that doesn't get bogged down with, you know, details!
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Okay
July 10, 2015 at 1:55 PM
I know. Just addressing that small population who are complaining/frustrated at the fact that the audience are kept in the dark (Guys it's only the first two episodes! The questions make you crave for more. Hahaha!)
Anyway, here's to hoping that the episodes next week will be (more?) packed and that the english subs will be released faster! **Still no decent english subs as of now. The one that dramacool uploaded irritated me because it had incomplete dialogues and it just made me confused (that's why I went here to read the recap. Haha! Thanks girlfriday!). Sad that I can't access Viki because of the country restriction thing *sigh*
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susan
July 10, 2015 at 3:28 PM
Viki's subs are incomplete as well. Have you looked at Dramafire?
Btw, you shouldn't be upset at the audience discussing what they like / don't like. :-) It's very helpful!
Dramabeans is a fantastic site - full of amazingly insightful people with a lot to say about what would make Kdramas even better. Which is why I come. You’re all teaching me how to make better entertainment properties. I'm sure I'm not the only person developing properties who comes here to read. (Almost every female producer I know loves Kdramas!)
Kiara
July 11, 2015 at 7:34 AM
Susan, I honestly don't see any of this as plot holes. I can answer them all or have an idea of how it's going to play out in future episodes. If you watch every episodes closely with a mindset in this era it'll become more clear to you. People behave and think differently back then. Having a bit of knowledge of the source material that this drama is based on also helps. This is a fantasy sageuk, let your imagination run wild lol.
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susan
July 11, 2015 at 8:55 AM
You are what we call a fan. Those awesome people who completely ignore the holes in the plot, the mic in the shot, the historical inaccuracies, the silly moments, etc etc.....
You're the best! Keep enjoying!
Kiara
July 11, 2015 at 10:35 AM
My expectation is very low and it's going to stay low with this kind of genre. It's not going to require a lot of thinking and it's not worth nit picking it. It's not even in the same league of"Tree with deep root" or Conspiracy in the court"
I'm a fan of sageuks and Korean history but I do ignore the historical inaccuracies because it's never going to be done right unless the writer is Jung Ha-Yeon. How many sageuks have you seen that are historically accurate?
I'm watching this for pure entertainment, eye candy and all but mostly for actors that I've grown to love from their past projects. Lee Jun-ki, Lee Hyun-Woo, Jang Hee-Jin and grandpa Lee Soon-Jae. I'd love to see Lee Yubi do well and grow as an actor.
English is my 3rd language and my grammar is all over the place so I can't really express or explain my thoughts clearly so I don't seems to make any sense I do have an excuse LOL.
Thanks for the sarcastic reply too <3.
susan
July 11, 2015 at 12:37 PM
Wait! I really wasn't being sarcastic! Fans are great people!
It's exactly what you are saying: you're just here to enjoy the show. And that's perfect.
The reason I analyze is for professional reasons - I'm a producer. I always look for what can improve a show and what's already great about it. Someone asked my thoughts and I shared them.
And, btw, your English rocks for a third language! :-)
15 crazedlu
July 9, 2015 at 9:49 PM
Eeeeee!! That is all.
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16 prettysup
July 9, 2015 at 9:50 PM
Just curious, do you recappers understand Korean ?
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alua
July 9, 2015 at 10:14 PM
Javabeans and girlfriday though.
I think most of the rest of the recappers on Dramabeans don't.
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alua
July 9, 2015 at 10:15 PM
do, not though!!!
sorry, it's early yet, pre-breakfast and pre-coffee!
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snickers
July 9, 2015 at 10:48 PM
Last year, DB put out a "recapper wanted" post. Recappers who can understand Korean are preferred. Of course, there are varying levels of "understanding Korean." Not to mention history, classical literature and such.
Here is the link to that post:
http://www.dramabeans.com/2014/01/minion-tryouts-recap-for-dramabeans/
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prettysup
July 9, 2015 at 11:13 PM
OIC, no wonder they can recap so fast!
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17 Beez
July 9, 2015 at 9:55 PM
As to this: "An invisible force grabs him by the ankle, dragging him inside the hut, where he finds a badly injured Hae-se"
I think it was the severed arm that dragged him into the hut. lol
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kpearl8
July 15, 2015 at 9:55 PM
Yep. Mmm, gore.
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18 Beez
July 9, 2015 at 9:56 PM
Oops, I just realized that quote is from recap 1, not this one.
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19 ⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 10:00 PM
LSH is so damn hot. the hottest villain vampire, his voice is so sexy. LJK
the presence of KSE later (in present time) hopefully will make it more interesting. have a feel that the presence of supporting characters make this drama more interesting.
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20 yayaya
July 9, 2015 at 10:01 PM
As a KSE fan, it's really bothering to see comment like this. Like really, everyone can criticize someone's acting and it's not always KSE fans who do all the works. We are pretty much happy to see KSE get the role and don't really see a problem about Yubi being the lead at least everything has happened and both are made for each other's character. I will cheer for this drama and the casts also the crew! ☺
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 10:04 PM
+1
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pigsnout
July 9, 2015 at 10:36 PM
It bothers you as a KSE fan to hear that some fellow fans said bad things about LYB, imagine how LYB fans must have felt seeing those bad comments in the first place.
That was all I wanted to point out but it keeps being denied.
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AA
July 10, 2015 at 10:00 PM
@pigsnout, her you go again. Will you STOP spreading your hate? You keep mentioning that KSE fans are saying ill things about LYB. It seems that YOU are the one who are spreading false lies about KSE fans. There's no war between LYB and KSE fans so stop starting something. It's annoying reading you comment the same thing over and over. There's no bias against LYB.
If anything, you have a bias against KSE fans. Get over yourself and move on. Grab a popcorn and enjoy the drama...and avoid starting drama among fans!
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pigsnout
July 9, 2015 at 10:39 PM
Please don't misunderstand, we don't want to have fights with anyone, just discuss the drama and cheer it on, including KSE and LYB both.
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yayaya
July 9, 2015 at 10:52 PM
Just because we are bitter with someone doesn't mean we have to reply it with bitterness. But that's only me who says. Opinions are yours and ours.
I only state that there might not only KSE fans who criticize and criticism can be from non fans so I wish people don't always jump into conclusion that it's always us. But yeah, that's their opinions so I also only say mine. No prob. Just saying it's bothering.
I know that it must hurt Yubi if she reads the negative comments though so I won't throw hatred. And if in case I also say something that bothers you, let's say peace and cheer for the drama. I'm sure that both of our actresses are friends so why the fans can't?
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⭐ Sera The Ms Temper ⭐
July 9, 2015 at 11:31 PM
+1
frankly, i found Pigsnout sometimes being over protective for LYB which i understood very well, coz i have the tendency to over protective for KSE.
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pigsnout
July 10, 2015 at 12:00 AM
All I was saying was the criticism I noticed of Yoobi from people with KSE in their icons/sigs and whose comment history showed they were KSEfans. I did not make that up or jump to conclusions. Yes, every single person who criticised LYB in soompi is not necessarily a KSE fan but it's just that I mention clear signs that some of them are, only to see it being denied and said it's untrue/I jumped to conclusions...
I am not even the one who first brought up the KSE fan issue in this thread, that was @sera and @AA. I only replied to clarify. And I never said anything bad about KSE, only mentioned that SOME of her fans showed this problematic behaviour. Not all. Obviously it's upsetting to hear that some of your fandom did wrong, but it is not criticism of you personally as a fan and most certainly not of So Eun!
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AA
July 10, 2015 at 10:08 PM
@pigsnout, excuse you but since when did I ever bring up the issue about KSE fans? NEVER. I've only replied to your nonsense because it is YOU who keeps bringing up that there's some 'bias against LYB from KSE fans' especially from the drama's SOOMPI page. I've actually been a lurker almost regularly before the drama started and I have not seen anything ill being said about LYB especially from these so called KSE fans that you continue to mention.
Maybe it is YOU who have a bias against KSE and KSE fans? There's a thought. Whatever it is, shake it off and just enjoy the show. Why spread negativity or hate among KSE and LYB fans? Even I am annoyed continually reading it from you because it is you who continues to mention it.
pigsnout
July 10, 2015 at 12:04 AM
Anyway I hope we can have peace after this. I like both girls and want the drama to do well but I only clarified because I don't want misunderstanding.
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Kiara
July 9, 2015 at 11:53 PM
As a fan of Jun-ki and both girls, it bothers me too so lets all stop this please. We should be discussion the show or squeeeing over Lee Soo-Hyuk's perfect abs.
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pigsnout
July 10, 2015 at 12:28 AM
@Kiara I agree with you. I didn't even bring up the issue first, only wanted to clarify. Now that clarification may not be accepted but I don't have any more to say other than enjoying the drama.
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AA
July 10, 2015 at 10:10 PM
+100 to that!!!
Forget his abs, I'm still at awe at LJK's beautiful face! ... sigh ...
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genuinecity
July 10, 2015 at 11:10 PM
Yes, when drama gives you abs, the least you can do is squeal about them! And caress your screen! What? Just me?
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21 Angela
July 9, 2015 at 10:13 PM
Holy shit, I love this drama so much!!!
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22 fantasy
July 9, 2015 at 10:36 PM
Is it the probable love line
LJK loves KSE. KSE loves Changmin. Changmin loves LYB. LYB loves LJK????
troublesome !!!!