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The Time I’ve Loved You: Episode 3

Our two best friends branch off to find romance this hour with some glaringly differing results, though their trials and tribulations just go to show how unshakable their bond is and how necessary they are to one another. And that in itself isn’t always a good thing, at least for Won’s game—it’s hard to impress the lady you’re with when you’re constantly worried about the lady you love… as a friend. Just as a friend. Because that’s totally what they are. Orrrrr is it?

No really, it is. For now. Kinda. It’s complicated.

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EPISODE 3 RECAP

We hear Hana in voiceover as she flashes back to recent memories with Sung-jae. She thinks back to a book she read that claimed special moments can begin as something simple, like when Sung-jae brought her sandals after a painful day spent in heels.

Similarly, we see Sung-jae holding his umbrella to protect Hana from the rain, shortly before he grabs her around the waist and spins her to protect her from getting splashed by an oncoming car.

Hana thinks that this is that special moment—the moment someone makes her feel protected. Her heart beats wildly as she wonders, “Does love have a sound?”

Cue Won giving his two cents on her irregular heartbeat while hanging out on their rooftop: “It’s a disease.” Hah. Hana disagrees, comparing the thrill of being with Sung-jae to the thrill of finding that right pair of heels in the shoe store.

Won asks sarcastically if she’s told Sung-jae that he’s just as special as a pair of shoes to her, but Hana says that’s beside the point—shouldn’t she grab him before the chance slips away? To that, Won gives her a firm no. She’s overreacting over an umbrella, and should wait until Sung-jae makes a move before she jumps right in.

Hana wonders if maybe she was overreacting until she finds a hot cup of coffee and a note from Sung-jae waiting for her in her office. “How can I not misunderstand when he acts like this?” she thinks.

Her gift-giver soon arrives, and Hana finds her heart racing again when Sung-jae has to lean over her to show her sales stats on her computer. She shuffles out awkwardly after, reminding herself not to overreact this time.

But she’s swiftly brought back down to earth when she’s reminded, none too kindly, that others in the company have been able to get ahold of actress Gu Yeon-jung while she’s still had no luck.

Won ends up saving So-eun from another distraught passenger and her distraught dog, though she later ends up getting reamed by her superior for almost giving into the passenger’s demands to let the dog out of its carrier.

He comforts her after by saying that regulations are regulations, but So-eun isn’t that bothered—how else is she going to learn if not through trial and error? Besides, her mother always told her that when you’re scolded, it’s because the person doing the scolding cares for you.

Won just shakes his head as he comments on her optimism, which he’s mentioned positively before. So-eun brightens up and follows after him, “That was a compliment just now, right? Did you just give me a compliment?” Simmer down now.

After following up on a possible lead for Actress Gu, Hana gets a call from her old high school buddy who we’ve seen in multiple flashbacks, KANG NA-YOUNG. Though they haven’t seen each other in almost five years, Hana gets a brief update on her life: Na-young cavalierly divorced her husband after three months of marriage, explaining simply that she did it because “I didn’t know why I got married.”

But Na-young quickly puts the kibosh on talking about her past, instead asking Hana if she keeps in touch with their old friends—she’s ready to start a new life, after all. Something about Na-young strikes me as, I dunno, psychotic? Hana’s comments about her in voiceover are much tamer, comparing Na-young’s unpredictability to that of a bouncing ball.

Flash back to the evening of the group blind date, where Na-young had accused Hana of lying to her about Won—she clearly saw them go out on a date. She also accused her of conspiring with Won so that he’d pick her scrunchie instead of Na-young’s.

Hana had maintained her innocence, so Na-young put it to the test by putting Hana and Won before God and a tape recorder. She’d grilled them both about whether Hana passed on her gift to Won, and whether he refused it because he and Hana were already dating.

Won ends up being the one to break the girls’ bickering over who was truthful and who wasn’t: “I… like someone else.” He won’t say who, but gives a pointed look to Hana before leaving. Hana and Na-young discussed who they thought he liked later, with neither of them guessing that it could be Hana.

In the present, Na-young reveals that she’s becoming an insurance agent to be able to scope out rich men from poor, since they have to write down their income levels when filling out a form. When Hana expresses disapproval, Na-young just calls her uptight.

Hana tells Won about Na-young’s reappearance at dinner that evening, even though he doesn’t remember her until Hana mentions the church interrogation incident. After all, if Won hadn’t said he liked someone else then, Na-young and her would’ve ceased to be friends.

But now that she’s thinking of it, Hana asks him who he liked back then. When Won shrugs that he doesn’t remember, Hana accuses him of keeping it a secret because it was probably a one-sided crush.

Won looks at her pointedly for a brief moment before defending that he isn’t the type to have a one-sided crush—and has proof in the form of So-eun calling him after work. At first he tells So-eun that he’s having dinner with a friend, but Hana seems to be repaying So-eun for calling Won “Oppa” when she says loud enough for her to hear, “Tell her to come over!”

She does, and Hana immediately eyes her up and down to size her up before putting on a bright, if not somewhat forced, smile. Whenever So-eun does something cute for Won, Hana seems to take a drink.

Similarly, when Won and Hana start to bicker about him eating green onions all their lives just because Hana hated them (when even he never liked them), So-eun takes a drink. By the end of the night she’s drunk and has her head resting on Won’s shoulder.

Since she’s got some liquid courage in her, So-eun wonders if Hana doesn’t have a boyfriend because she looks like the type who hold work and friendship above love. Hana seems to look at Won to back her up when she grits out, “Do I look that way?”

Won doesn’t help her out, and So-eun continues, “Men find you to be the really difficult type, don’t they?” She looks to Won to back her up, and he replies noncommittally. Finally Hana says in as sweet a tone as she can manage, “Well, isn’t that better than looking too easy?” Oooh.

Afterward, Won has a drunk So-eun hanging on his arm that he needs to take home. He offers to come back for Hana after dropping her off, but Hana replies with a smile that she’s already got someone to take her home.

Enter Sung-jae, causing Won to shoot a glance at Hana that she seems all-too-happy to meet. She’s one-upping him and she knows it, but gets herself into a situation when So-eun asks if Sung-jae is her boyfriend and Sung-jae replies in the affirmative by taking Hana’s hand in his.

Won shakes his head almost imperceptibly at Hana as So-eun comments on how handsome a couple they are. But she oversteps her boundaries when she accuses Hana of playing coy when she said she didn’t have a boyfriend earlier, and Hana takes her to task her for it—that’s the kind of talk reserved for much closer friends, is it not?

So-eun immediately backs down, and Sung-jae helps diffuse the situation by thanking So-eun for giving him an opportunity for Hana to call him, since he’d just been following her around like a puppy until now. Won comes as close to rolling his eyes as he can.

At least Hana apologizes to So-eun for being terse with her before leaving with Sung-jae, and Won sounds a bit pitiful calling out to Hana, “Call me when you get home!” Aww.

Sung-jae asks who Won is to Hana, being smart enough to guess that he was used to incite jealousy. Even though Hana defends that Won is just a friend, Sung-jae says it doesn’t matter anyway. “If you call me, I’ll run to you any time.”

But someone watches the two of them part angrily—it’s Hana’s unfriendly coworker, who can’t believe what she’s seeing.

So-eun invites Won to have drinks in her front yard, which leads to a rather lavish house. (Does everyone in this show have inordinately nice houses?) She explains that she came to live with her grandma in middle school when her parents passed away, but that she grew up happily nonetheless.

When Won wonders if her grandmother also passed, So-eun just laughs that she’s on vacation. However, she ends up inviting Won inside when he spills some makgulli on his jeans. Dun dun dun.

Later that night, Hana wonders if she wasn’t too harsh to So-eun and calls Won—but when she hears So-eun near him and discovers that he’s at her house, she bristles and just tells him to call her when he gets home. She’s concerned enough about it that she puts her phone on the pillow next to her to wait for his call.

So-eun guesses that it’s Hana who called, and an awkward silence passes before a sultry look overcomes her. So-eun sidles up to him seductively, running her fingers along his jaw and chest before pushing him toward the wall…

…But it was just a daydream on Won’s part. He worries he must’ve drank too much and leaves, hesitating on whether to call Hana despite seeing her bedroom light still on. He eventually decides not to.

Hana’s making some headway on arranging a meeting with the elusive Actress Gu, only to be stopped by Ho-joon, who says word has spread everywhere about her fooling around with the new intern.

Hana uses his full and formal name as she tells him to live his own life without worrying about others (translation: butt out). He has the gall to claim some authority to tell her what’s what as her ex, but Hana doesn’t stick around to hear it.

Instead, she has to overhear it from all the other female employees as they gossip about her. Hana fights back by being overly loud when telling Sung-jae that he’ll be coming with her on a business trip to meet with Actress Gu tomorrow.

So-eun scores points with Mi-hyang by bringing her food that her idol Mir is sure to like, which she knows because a friend of hers works on variety shows. Her mission to integrate herself into Won’s life whether he has a say in it or not is accomplished when Mi-hyang suggests that they switch to an unni/dongsaeng relationship, which will undoubtedly get her closer to Won.

When the subject of Hana is brought up, So-eun admits to Mi-hyang that she felt jealous at seeing how close the two of them are, but Mi-hyang tells her she has nothing to worry about—they’ve always been that way.

Won returns to his house from Hana’s house with her little brother, who takes his report on So-eun back to his parents. She’s pretty much perfect, Dae-bok argues, so they’ll have a tough time trying to beat her by setting Hana up with Won. What gives them the idea that this’ll work after so many years spent platonically anyway?

Mi-hyang asks Won about So-eun later, but when he opts to keep his love life private, her only advice to him is that he not lead her on if he doesn’t plan to date her. It gives him pause when So-eun texts him to ask him out for dinner later, and he doesn’t respond.

Sung-jae drops in on Hana as she’s practicing the speech she’ll give to Actress Gu about breaching her contract—if she can even manage to meet her face-to-face, that is. He helps her along by giving her information that Actress Gu will be walking the red carpet for a film festival, which may give them an opportunity.

In return for him agreeing to an unheard favor from Hana, Sung-jae suggests that they go see the sunrise over the beach if all goes well with Actress Gu tomorrow.

After chasing Won through a store for suggesting she get a much smaller bra than the one she’d already had her eyes on, Won takes issue with the idea that Hana will be going on an overnight trip with Sung-jae.

She’s quick to bring up that he spent the night at So-eun’s place (since he never called her to say he was home), but Won presses back that she needs to be more careful—she can’t just fall for Sung-jae if all he’s doing is tolerating her.

Hana takes issue with the fact that Won’s been acting as though she’s so lacking lately, and argues that she’s not just an okay catch, but a great catch. Won vomits in his mouth a little as Hana goes on that love is simple… and he better get that five million won in bet money ready.

Won ends up eating with Hana’s family that night, since her mother’s prepared an undoubtedly expensive lobster dish just for him. Her parents couldn’t be any more obvious about wanting Hana and Won together, enough to where they’re practically selling themselves on how awesome they’ll be as his in-laws—after all, they’ve been treating him like family since high school.

Even if Won realizes what they’re doing, he still readily agrees with Mom that she’s always been like a real mother to him. Dae-bok can’t help but roll his eyes at his parents’ antics, and Hana pulls a reluctant Won away from the lobster-laden table to take him upstairs. Her parents whoop like they’re going to the make out closet at a party.

Hana complains that her parents still haven’t given up on them even though it’s been seventeen years, but when she turns around, she finds herself almost face to face (at her height more like face-to-chest) with Won. He breaks the bit of tension by being all, Well, I am pretty awesome.

He looks at one of her old photos and then its likeness in his house—only his version is hand drawn. But when So-eun texts him, he closes the sketchbook before replying.

Hana picks up Sung-jae for their work trip, and he asks her all the usual simple things she claimed she liked to be asked about, like what she ate. When she mentions that her breakfast was bread and milk, Sung-jae remembers what happened the last time she ate that combo, and scratches his finger along the seat to replicate the sound of a fart.

“Do you remember?” he asks teasingly. Fart. She claims she doesn’t. “You really don’t remember?” Fart, fart, fart. She grabs him by the throat and threatens to give him one if he keeps on the way he is, and he meekly bows his head in apology…

…But that’s only how Hana wishes she could handle the situation. In reality she just asks him to stop, and he apologizes through laughter. “I’m really sorry. I’m sorry, Noona!” Aww. Who can stay mad at that?

At long last, Hana gets a meeting with Actress Gu (played by Shin Eun-kyung), who couldn’t seem to care less that she’s bowed out of her endorsement deal with Hana’s company.

Hana tries to play hardball like she’d practiced, but when that backfires, she’s ready with another solution: a dress and PPL shoe combo that she can wear to the red carpet of an upcoming film festival. That’s the favor she asked Sung-jae for, and it works when the actress agrees to wear the shoes.

Now that the work is done, Hana and Sung-jae get to play the rest of the day. It’s a montage of scenes from an ideal date that can only exist in the movies, but darn if it doesn’t look like they’re having all the fun.

At the end of the day, Sung-jae takes Hana’s hand in his as they overlook the waves crashing over the beach. Since the day went well, he reminds her, will she go to the beach with him tomorrow morning? Hana thinks briefly about Won’s dating advice later that night, but still decides to join Sung-jae.

Speaking of Won, we find him cooking a meal for Mi-hyang and So-eun that reminds So-eun of the spaghetti she ate when she was first accepted into college. It’s a bit of a strange thing to reminisce about, but it only makes Mi-hyang like her more—it must be a talent to be able to eat all those carbs and still have a body like Australian supermodel Miranda Kerr, she claims.

Hana gets dressed up that night to pay a visit to Sung-jae, and ends up just walking into his hotel room when a staff member leaves it open. She overhears him having a phone conversation with someone whose hospital bills he’s promising to pay for after he becomes a full-time employee.

“I’m getting close to the Team Leader,” he tells the mystery person. “She’ll definitely take care of me. Don’t worry, I’ll make sure it happens—…” He cuts himself off when he turns around to see Hana standing there. Oh no.

Hana recovers from her shock quickly enough to defend herself: “How can you be so certain that we’re close? Did I seem like a woman who would take care of you if I became close to you?” Sung-jae tries to step in, but there’s no room.

“By smiling and doing me favors, the thing you wanted to gain by using someone’s heart was just a full-time position?” she adds a little incredulously. “How urgent must your situation be? How low did you have to be to act like this?”

Sung-jae returns that no one would know as well as her—she knew what it was to feel low when her boyfriend left her for a hoobae. “Weren’t you happy when I appeared?” he counters. “How urgent must it have been for you to hold my hand so easily—…”

She stops him there. And as for seeing the sunrise on the beach, she won’t be joining him.

Hana’s much less composed as she leaves, unable to deny to herself that she thought those moments when Sung-jae treated her well were sincere. And what she can’t stand more than the idea that all those moments were fake is the idea that she let herself get swept up in them. She drops to her knees then, sobbing.

So-eun manipulates Won into promising to cook her another meal before he’s pulled away from the table when Hana calls. Mi-hyang reassures So-eun that they’re just close and not to take it seriously, but it’s obvious by Won’s stance and voice that he’s worried about Hana.

“You were right,” a tearful Hana tells Won. “I shouldn’t have overreacted. Those moments that made my heart race… I thought I was at an age where I knew that they don’t amount to much. Like an idiot, I forgot about that. All that talk about how I felt with someone saving and protecting me… I guess I was just desperate to be loved like that.”

If Won speaks past asking her where she is, his voice isn’t heard as Hana continues on about how she no longer has confidence in herself. She ends up on a beach with tear-streaked mascara, but even that pity party gets rained out. Hana has to watch as all the couples take shelter while she’s left alone and miserable.

Suddenly, she finds herself under some sort of cover—it’s Won, getting soaked himself as he holds his jacket over Hana’s head. “I found you, Oh Hana,” he says with his trademark smile.

He pulls her closer and warns her that she better not get sick after being out in the rain, or she’ll really get it from him. He grins then, and even Hana can’t resist a small smile.

 
COMMENTS

And that’s what friends are for. Hana’s had a pretty rough time with relationships as of late, so it goes without saying that this most recent development with Sung-jae would hit her as hard as it did. Even without having her ex-boyfriend leave her abruptly and uncaringly for his other girlfriend, finding out that the person she’d decided to open her heart to was just manipulating her for a job would be enough to send anyone into mascara-streaking territory.

It doesn’t help that Hana’s having to fight to earn her keep at work every day, and that she was already the subject of gossip because of Ho-joon leaving her to marry Min-ji. Though that’s the kind of scoop that would spread through an office like wildfire, it’s somewhat disconcerting that Hana’s bearing the brunt of the shame when she wasn’t the one who cheated or even the one who got pregnant out of wedlock with a cheater. She was the one who was tricked, so to see her be made a pariah when Ho-joon and his new wife are practically exalted either says everything about modern society or nothing at all.

Her efforts to try and change how others perceive her were then made much more integral to her existence not just on a personal level, but on a professional one as well. This whole bizarre idea that she “lost” her man the same way she “lost” Actress Gu’s endorsement put extra pressure on Hana to prove herself, as if doing so would change her standing around the company water cooler. But as important as that was to her, she was willing to put her already dwindling reputation on the line for what she felt mattered to her—which, in this case, was Sung-jae.

But it’s good to see that despite her somewhat bumbling nature, Hana possesses enough shrewd business sense to prove that she’s earned her title at the office, even if no one there seems to respect it. Unfortunately for her, what happened with Sung-jae didn’t happen in a vacuum, and if she thought they were the talk of the office before… well, if work didn’t already suck for her, Hana’s got some dark days lying ahead.

Won still remains something of a mystery, though there’s a delineation to be made between being somewhat of a mystery and being a frustratingly opaque cipher. He falls on the good end of that spectrum with what little has been revealed of his past, but more and more it seems like his family is left out of any discussion deliberately. It makes me wonder—especially with his cousin mentioning that Won learned to cook for himself from a young age this episode—whether Won’s presumably fractured family life is what caused his “I’ll never love you” proclamations toward Hana. Because if whatever this is isn’t love, then I don’t know what is.

 
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I'm mad Show refused to go there with Sung Jae's character. His resolution was so abrupt, I would've been confused had I not watched the original version.

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Exactly! I was expecting his character to be like Nic's character in the original version but oh well, I really think they'd do that to L. LOL

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*don't think they'd really do that to L

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Isn't Taiwan alot more accepting of homosexuality though, so maybe that's why they had no problem portraying that in the original. I'd have been extremely surprised if a public channel like SBS went there.

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what???? Is that the ultimate spoiler? (I'm not complaining, I love spoilers). OMG OMG

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OMG! For a minute there I thought you were talking about Won! THAT'd be the ultimate Spoiler!

Pls, PLS, PLS, those of you who have seen the TW original, pls pls, PLS, Don't tell us why Won can't ever love Hana even if they are on a deserted island. That is the $ 6M question that we are watching this show to find out. TQ very much.

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Nooooo! It was about L's character. Someone posted the spoiler in a post about casting for the drama (I was upset to read it at the time). I have not watched the original on purpose so I'm just as in the dark as you are.

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Hi there,
It was my own misreading of your post. ?

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Well in the Taiwanese drama it was kinda obvious why he said he couldn't love her. This version makes it seem more...mysterious than it ought to be.

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As someone who didn't watch the original, I don't know how the character's homosexuality played out overall. However, I think L's character was fittingly resolved and added a nice beat to Hana's personality.

The fact that he wasn't gay is a harder blow for a person's ego to take, perhaps. Like even a guy who likes girls didn't find Hana desirable, you know?

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Agree! And I'm glad they didn't go the homosexuality route.

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Truth be told it was SJ's betrayal that hurt Hana deep. His sexual orientation was an afterthought and in fact him being straight had more of an impact imo.

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I haven't seen the original in a long time, but I remember the character being angrier in the hotel confrontation. He was basically saying, she had no idea what it was like to be gay and try to get ahead, so not to judge him for doing what he thought was necessary. Those who have seen it, am I remembering correctly?
Huh, I'm realizing now that in the original drama, every character, no matter how good or how "bad" has a moment of total honesty, except for the two leads. Everyone, ex-boyfriends, old school friends, family members, were very human.

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I didnt watch the original and I wasnt confused.

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Same here, I wasnt confused either

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Oh, I thought the opposite. It's far more likely for the Korean scenario to happen than for the Taiwanese scenario. Not only was it far fetched, what he did in the Taiwanese version was an OTT jerkish thing for a person to do.

At the time I thought that element of the story was so far fetched, that putting it in seemed more like token quota-filling. If the topic is going to be used, it shouldn't be done that way. It's demeaning.

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Finally! Omg I've been waiting for this recap. Thanks HeadsNo2!
"It makes me wonder—especially with his cousin mentioning that Won learned to cook for himself from a young age this episode—whether Won’s presumably fractured family life is what caused his “I’ll never love you” proclamations toward Hana."
I think you've got a point there. Maybe the writers wanted a more "solid" reason as to why Won keeps on saying that he'll never love Hana instead of the same old reason that he's scared that their friendship will be ruined if he speaks of his true feelings (which is the case in the original version).
Episode 4's somewhat more eventful than this episode tho and I'm looking forward to your recap!
Can't wait for this week's episodes!

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Won always brings to mind that old song Wicked Game by Chris Isaacs.

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Much awaited! Thank you so much for recapping <3
Reading now :)

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I finished watching episode 3 and 4. So far I like it. It is the only drama that I watch in 2015.

Ha Ji Won is pretty and her clothes are awesome.

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I felt so bad for Hana when the harsh truth came. Her breakdown. Loved the moment when Won was there for her.

I noticed that they both rake their hair often.... and they have similar hairstyles with their bangs. xD

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Won-ah!!!!!!!!!!!! How you simultaneously frustrate me and then make me swoon.
The whole workplace situation really bothers me and it pissed me off when Hana caught her co-workers gossiping about her in the bathroom and then they had the gall to walk out and laugh that she scared them. -_-
Apart from that, I could watch another two hours of Hana and Won together. Going into this, I thought the romance would be the best part of this show for me but I think it might just be their friendship. (I still want romance though, lots of it!)

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I could watch them for days...seriously, when they're not on screen together, I just multitask and wait.

I agree with what you say about their friendship. It's such a lovely thing to see that a part of me is like "Don't change anything!" for fear of it being ruined. The other, louder part of me is like "Just be together!"

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It sucks that friendships change when you get feelings for the other person, although that's not always the case. I mean, Won's doing a pretty good job of keeping his feelings under wraps while still being just friends with Hana. I'm looking forward to the day though when Won doesn't have to hide his feelings because these prolonged beats where they look just a second too long into each other's eyes are gettting me over here. Whewww!!

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I think the problem likes with the fact that they are such awesome friends and have been there for each other, and neighbours to boot... If Won were to tell her that he loves her and she doesn't reciprocate, it would be very awkward for the both of them to continue their usual camaraderie. They can still be distant friends, but the closeness would be lost...and that's probably what Won is afraid of. Even if Hana would respond positively, but if anything happens to their relationship later and they break up...there goes their warm and close friendship too.

In fact, the question that So-eun asked, "Can a man and woman be just friends?" is a good question. If either one of them were to get married, can their spouses accept their friendship? I know that if my husband was as close to a female friend as Won is to Hana, I would be very jealous and ask him not to see her so often, especially if the relationship went back 17 years. So many shared memories that the spouse would not have been be a part of, unless of course, they were all close friends before.

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They need to ask themselves if they'll be willing to curb or give up on that friendship for their respective spouse, and in their case, I think the answer would be, Hell, No! Or, I can't even if I want to. And No, I really don't want to.

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"Can a man and woman just be friends."

All of my friends used to say 'yes', until they got married. Then everyone realized that the answer had changed to 'no'.

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Been there, done that.
I lost my best "boy" friend when he got married, and then I got married myself. We never met or talked to each other since then. Ever. I guess we're (I'm) trying to respect our respective spouses. We actually had a brief "trial and error" moment and dated for a month before we realized it was too awkward, but we stayed being friends afterwards, although I admit it wasn't the same as before.

Aah, sorry for the story of my life LOL this drama just brings back some old memories :-D

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What does PPL mean?

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Product placement.

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Thanks Heads!!

This is turning out better than expected. It's not just a fluffy show but has some comment to make on people manipulating situations and others to create a relationship. How much is manipulation or engineered and is it right to do that? How much is acceptable in just going with the flow, allowing a relationship to take place?

I am bothered by So En's determination to get Won. I feel that she could have more self-respect. Granted to being with, she can take some initiative and make some moves to show she's interested, but she really ought to see if it is reciprocated instead of pushing on, deliberately reading more into the situation and manipulating a position into Won's family and house. I guess I don't like her style or her character much.

She give us the female version of what Sung Jae does to manipulate Ha Na's feelings for him, knowing that she was at a low point in her life. Is he more reprehensible because he has no feelings for Ha Na but behaved as if he had (deliberate deceit)? So En does not seem as bad as Sung Jae in that sense.

I agree that Na Young seems psychotic or fixated or something. When she gets an idea into her head, she does not let go easily. Getting married without knowing why and divorced within 3 months is deplorable, but she behaves as if it is totally acceptable and wants to find more men with the right credentials. What is wrong with this society???

Even Ha Na's family are a little questionable. It should be enough that they express their willingness to have Won as a son-in-law without further interference.

By contrast Ha Na and Won seem to have the most 'normal' relationship. Mutual affection, steadfastness, loyalty, respect and consideration ... yes that is among other things, definitely love. :)

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I don't want to hate So-eun, and I don't. But I accept all that she's doing (however pushy and forward she seems) simply because Won never said he wasn't interested. He willingly cooks for her and takes her out. And everyone says he and Hana are just friends. So I understand the hope she's holding out for him. He's too nice of a guy to tell her to back off, and I think he is trying to put some effort in dating, but his mind is so preoccupied with Hana, it's pretty much in vain.

Girl's gonna get her heart crushed, that is all.

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@ tapioca pearl

"Girl’s gonna get her heart crushed,..."

I'm not entirely sure her heart is in the right place, so to speak. Meaning... it feels like she decided that she would go after him because he was helpful, and having made up her mind, she is going all out to get what she wants in a rational (cold-blooded?) way rather than because she cares about Won or has strong feelings for him. Somehow, she has not been written to be or shown to have a warmth of heart that goes with falling in love. It seemed like an opportunistic thing rather than a heart thing, and most of her subsequent actions were calculated and even staged.

So I feel, at this stage anyway, her heart will not really suffer. Probably only her pride.

I do agree though that Won has to be really clear and it was Mi Hyang's advice too. If the girl is dandling after him with romantic hopes, he really has to dash them and separate himself from her, or he ends up called a player (when it is actually she who is).

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GB,
I agree with you entirely on this matter, but I think the both of us are a bit old-fashioned in that sense, you know, caring about self-respect, not wanting to be pushy and all that.
I see her being a go-getter to get herself a good husband; I don't see her being crazy in love w Won either.

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I don't hate SE either mostly because Won is sending her mixed messages. But I also think that he's experimenting a little with her which is rather naughty of him. I love him to death but his indecisiveness has got ramifications.

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Rather than sending mixed messages, he is being completely passive in his dealings w her.
He has Never once initiated contact or anything else w her. Can I call you Oppa? Can I sit next to you? Can I buy you dinner? His answer?

Whatever.

Or to put it another way: If push comes to shove, alright then.

Girl got to give the guy a chance to initiate at least once.

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By not rejecting her overtures, he is sending her indirect messages like "I don't mind" He's letting her interpret his comments in the way that it suits her.

I'm not saying she's not setting herself up for disappointment but he's not doing much to discourage her while knowing full well what her personality is like.

I'm sure he's not that dumb that he doesn't understand what she's trying to do.

But hey, let's not get too pedantic here. ;)

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I thought we were interested in discussing her behaviour.
Looks like there are 2 schools of thought:

1 is yours (that Won is responsible for the way she behaves for having sent mixed messages);

the other is What @crazyahjummafan says in 8.2, esp. in (4).

The pt is that By her pushing and manipulating, she makes it hard for the other party to say No, and that is her strategy all along.

Of course in the end, if she plays innocent and go: "Oh, why didn't you say No earlier, then *sob sob*, I wouldn't be getting my heart broken like this", then she gets to lay a guilt trip on her target before she moves along, right to the next one.

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"I am bothered by So Eun’s determination to get Won." Me too!

I.DO.NOT.LIKE.HER!!! For the following reasons:

1) Too coy - "I'm an only child...so I don't have anyone to call Unnie or Oppa...can I call you Oppa?" All said using her big eyes to advantage! Knowing fully well that most guys will fall for the wide-eyed innocent look and pityful situation.

2) A player - Buying drinks ONLY for her male colleagues (with the exception of Mi-hyang)....and gets their choice correct. Seems like she knows men well.

3) A sycophant/ apple-polisher/ bootlicker - pick your choice
Isn't it ironic that as Mi-hyang's fan, she didn't know what drink she would prefer...but got ALL the guys drinks correct? Some fan! Seems like she was only trying to get into Mi-hyang's good books with flattery when she said that she was MH's fan.

4) Manipulative - While she doesn't bother to find out Mi Hyang's drink preferences, she goes all out to find Mir's food preferences to gain Mi-hyang's favour & friendship, to gain entrance into Won's house.
And her "Omo! Omo! I forgot to take a photo of the dish Oppa cooked for me!" with such exaggerated despair...just so that Won will graciously offer to cook another time for her!!!

It's one thing to be honest and lay your heart on your sleeve, it's another to manipulate a situation in such a way that the other party would look bad if he said no.

5) Presumptive - The way she assumes that just because she calls Won, Oppa, that she's on the same level as Hana to evaluate Hana's character so openly. It's her first time seeing Hana, who is older than her...how can she be so rude to make such comments about her? I'm glad Hana put her in her place.

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Woah!! @crazyahjummafan

I am so impressed!!! You got it all down so completely, so on pointe! Yes, it's exactly as you've put it. It's a pity that we over here see it so clearly but Mi Hyang and Won are having the 'wool pulled over their eyes', so to speak. I know it is a necessary plot point to add to the suspense (and our frustration LOL!) but, really... Mi Hyang is smart enough to see that So Eun had engineered getting another invitation to dinner... she should be able to catch on faster and warn Won (inadvertent rhyme LOL). :D

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HAHAHAHA, i have no choice but to agree with u on this.

i never like her character, i think shes trying to act with cutesy while in fact she is not. >,< it looks like shes trying too hard to act cute.

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Okay, after reading the detailed breakdown, I might have to evaluate my current neutral stance towards So-eun.

You've said it very ver well about the presumptive attitude though!

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@crazyahjumma, wow, daebak, what a list, hahaa...

I remember Won has this horror look in his eyes when Hana told him, as loudly as she could, to ask So Eun to join them having dinner...LOL . And the fact that So-eun came right away explains a lot about her character...If it was Hana in her position, I am sure Hana would never come to respect him having a peaceful time with his friend.

What Won did was just trying to prove himself to Hana that he's not "that bad" as a man in her eyes. You see his reaction when Hana said about unrequited love, and he asked her would he be that kind of man and Hana said yes immediately..

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Interesting take on So Eun's character. Normally, with a character like that, I'd say an argument can be made both ways - you either love her, or hate her. But I can see why that might be a tad bit difficult in this version, where for some reason, she's made to come across as being more manipulative as opposed to naive. That wasn't the case in the original...

In the original, her character highlighted an age gap which Ha Na had to contend with, the older she got. Her youthful nature and naive optimism served as a great contrast to Ha na's years of experience and general outlook on life, which changes according to generation.

And whilst the young can be annoying and lack perspective on life due to inexperience or naivety, you can't blame them for taking advantage of opportunities laid out in front of them. That is the case with both SE and SJ, who take advantage of their youth to take bold steps. It's one of the things I really enjoyed about the original - the essence of time, and how that translated into all the various characters, be it young or older, and the decisions they are forced to make as a result.

Yes, So Eun may be a little manipulative, but she's also young, and her perspective on life is made to stand out vastly from both Ha na and Won's (who belong to the same generation). If anything, her character showcases just how in sync Hana and Won are when it comes to life, and how their shared experiences doesn't allow for a third party to enter so easily. In that sense, So Eun also comes across as slightly more pathetic if not sympathetic, as she's of the naive mindset that her ideal vision of love can overcome a friendship of 17 or more years.

It may be frustrating, but she sure ain't fooling anyone.

Won may be too nice a guy to decline her advances, but he sure isn't innocent. Mi Hyang actually gave him very sound advice in not starting something he's not committed to - so he entered this relationship knowingly. And him providing false hope is a lot more blameworthy than So Eun's forthright nature. Doesn't mean I like Won any less, it's just that, it shows he's not perfect - exactly how the Taiwanese version depicts him.

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In regards to So Eun, I think part of it is that yeah she's very forward but I like that about her character. She's nowhere near your typical k-drama possessive, pushy second female lead who will-stop-at-nothing to get the male lead (cough, cough second lead in My Love Eundong), so the bar is very low for a likeable second female lead right now lol. But another part of it is that Won isn't really doing anything to discourage her either, he's just letting her label them this and that, calling it "optimism." So for me, Won is the one who isn't being clear about what they are and what he feels for her and I'm honestly a little frustrated with him. What ARE you feeling Won?!!!! Hahah

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"She’s nowhere near your typical k-drama possessive, pushy second female lead who will-stop-at-nothing to get the male lead."

I disagree as I think she is, only in a more subtle way that comes across so sugary sweet and innocent that some of us are fooled too.

As for Won not being clear about how he feels for her and not telling her 'no', I think its because he sees her initially as a young and helpless hoobae in need of his help (actually, I am certain that that's how So-eun deliberately portrays herself...as most? some guys like that about women...makes them feel protective and macho).
I also think that in most, if not all the situations that So-eun has been with Won, she has so cleverly cornered him that he can't say no, as it would make him look ungracious. It's very similar to the dream he had, where So-eun seductively approached him and he just stood there stunned while she backed him up against the wall.

Take for eg, the way she initated their first dinner. To me, it was so orchestrated. Contrary to what HeadsNo2 wrote, I do not think that Won chose to sit next to So-eun. The fact that he was sitting on the inside seat implies that he sat down first, and she sat next to him. It is a strategy position, cause literally and figuratively, he will find it hard to get out. When she proposed buying him dinner, her reason was because he had helped her out and she wanted to repay him. To turn down her offer would appear ungracious, especially with Hana's coment that he was cold and aloof. Moreover, So-eun looked like she would break into tears if he did not accept her offer. And strategically sitting opposite the other stewards who were pairing them off, would be really look bad for Won, is she had cried.

She had also 'cornered' him when she asked if she could call him Oppa. It clearly took him by surprise, and me too! I went, "Wow! She's good!" her reason was so compelling. I'm an only child. I've never called anyone Unni of Oppa. Not to give her the opportunity to do so, would seem cold and unsympathetic. Then again, there was the way she got Won to cook her another meal. Even Mi-hyang acknowledged that she was crafty. Just that our poor Won doesn't know what to do. He had no choice but to agree to cook for her again as MH had first suggested it.

Won, i think doesn't know how to handle women, except for Hana. It seems as if he has only loved her and all these years and has somewhat closed his heart to any relationship by appearing cold and unapproachable such that he is really awkward and inexperienced when handling a forward woman like So-en.

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you are absolutely right on Won and the second lead girl.

The second lead girl looks somewhat older then she said all those things that sound as if a college or high school girl would say to attract a man .... Can the woman act and behave like a woman of her age without a coy?!

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And that's the key problem. Her character in the original was a lot younger compared to Ha-na and Won, so her antics were a lot more believable, in that it made you think she's young and naive, despite being annoying.

Here, her character looks older than how the original had painted her - so her actions don't quite match up, making her appear a lot more manipulative in the negative sense.

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Loving your comments. Not regretting posting below before I read them. They're spot on.

The only thing I'd wonder about it whether Won's tolerance of So Eun says he doesn't know how to handle women. For some people, its easier to let graciousness and generosity be the default way to respond to the missteps of others. They'll put up soft boundaries when another person has crossed the line, to allow them to gently get the hint. But if the other person doesn't show him the same consideration, he'll shut down. With Hana, this comes in waves.

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Yes, I like your analysis of the situation. Well done.

What could Won have said to her 'request' to call him Oppa outside of work?
"No, don't call me Oppa. Too bad you are an only child. I don't care about that."

Let's not forget that Won's behavior towards this girl is a reaction to Hana's comments about him, more than his feelings towards the girl, cos as far as I can see, he doesn't have any.

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So Eun's duplicity really bugs me. To Won she plays the young innocent, who's optimistic and caring. But in reality, she's conniving (manipulating Won into giving her what she wants and weaseling her way into closeness with his family) and cut-throat (the constant passive-aggressive harassment of Hana). And the fact that she doesn't seem to stop and consider what he might want makes her seem selfish to boot.

But I still think the show is doing a good job with the character. She's annoying but not downright irritating. And it's conceivable that Won could overlook the deeper issues and fall for her solely because she's very pretty and willing to stop at nothing to win his affections. So even though So Eun shortcomings are a detractor, she still seems like a credible romantic foil for Hana.

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Nicely put!

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Your sub caption says episode 4 recap. A typo?

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Whoops. Got a bit ahead of myself, I guess!

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I KNEW IT. THAT WON WOULD GO TO HER RESCUE. FROM THE MOMENT HE PICKED UP THE CALL.

I don't hate So-eun (yet) and I'd prefer not to. But she's really a bit too forward for my liking. And I do also see her through Hana's eyes, overdoing the whole 'oppa' and feeding thing in front of her best friend, so I would naturally also think "if you want to overdo the flirting, reserve that for him. Don't expect me to suddenly act like you're my good friend too". I think Hana was sincere about wanting to meet So-eun and was relatively friendly to her at the beginning, but I think the PDA is bound to get to anyone.

By the way, the actress looked very familiar so I went to Google her and... she's supposedly the feisty YGN camera woman from Pinocchio. I'm stunned because the actress in Pinocchio had a fuller face and (for lack of a better phrase) that girl-next-door sort of friendliness. Whereas the actress playing So-eun has sharper features and looks more coy. Does this just come to damn amazing stylists/make-up artists? Or did the Internet somehow mix up two different actors? Anyone? It's a silly thing but I've been wrecking my brain all week over this!

And I love love love how Hana is spirited, but also humble enough to put aside her pride and the actress' rude behaviour to come up with the ingenious idea of offering a red carpet ensemble. Savvy, and thoughtful.

I'm really beginning to like Won too. Mr Prickly all about sacrified his macho ego to appease that dog lady. Hehe. I'd love to see more of his prickly side though, since we've only seen his sweetness to Hana, and his friendliness? gentleness? with So-eun.

I'm slightly surprised though, that Hana was so upset about Sung-jae's 'ambition' to convert to a full-time position. Isn't that quite natural and understandable? I know part of it is mixed with her seeing him through romantic eyes, but it's also not as if it's a major deception (e.g. to steal secrets). How is it being low? Did I miss something in the translation?

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Or did the Internet somehow mix up two different actors?

So Eun is the camerawoman from Pinocchio, both played by Choo Soo Hyun. There is no less than six actors from Pinocchio who are also in The Time I’ve Loved You (Hyung, Maggie, Dad, Little Bro, Mir, and flight attendant colleague).

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Wait wait, I know I've spotted the resident police guy from Pinocchio here as Hana's little brother, and that uppity/selfish mom from Pinocchio is now this incredible noona, and Dad is still Dad... but I can't pick out the rest!

I saw that Hyung is supposed to be here as Cha Seo-Hoo (whom they mentioned at the start of this episode), but we've not seen him yet, right?

I super love Jin Kyung's personality transformation here! It's so different from the previous cold-hearted and aloof character. Not too many people can carry off this idol-chasing thing thing convincingly and without looking silly at that age, but she plays it very cooly!

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"Hyung" oppa has finally appeared in the 4th ep. Contrary to the earlier press releases wherein it was revealed that he will be portraying a chaebol in hiding who is looking for someone to love him for himself and not because of his fortune, his character will now be much closer to the Taiwanese version where he will be playing a reformed (?) playboy ex of Hana's who wants to win her back.

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Yes, yes. Pls try to win her back, whatever he is. I want to see Won climb the walls when he does.

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Sorry for the late reply. And thanks! Finally makes sense now that I've caught up with ep 4. (=

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LOL "climb the walls"!!! Poor Won! As if he hasn't already been the sweetest friend.

Well, 'hyung' has to be the catalyst to get our OTP rowing in unchartered waters.... they've been meandering down stream slowly for too long!!!

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GB my pal,
He's been the sweetest friend. But we want to see him acting like the keenest suitor/contender!

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"He’s been the sweetest friend. But we want to see him acting like the keenest suitor/contender!"

In total agreement to that! And can I add, "The swooniest" too?

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She really is that camera-woman in Pinocchio ;)

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Sung-jae was basically sucking up to her in hopes that his internship would turn into a full-time position. It's one thing to suck up to the boss, but to flirt with the boss and pretend you're into her and manipulate her feelings so that she will "take care" of you is a whole other level of sucking. It's a personal attack, not work-related.

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hmm true, I guess it's more of the flirting/romantic signals than regular boot-licking...

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On Sung-jae:

I guess because she heard him say to the person on the other end of the line that he's close to her boss and he's sure to get his position because of that.

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@ osmanthus tea and Everyone :)

Yup, that actress is good because I'd never have remembered her as being that non-nonsense camera woman from seeing her here. I liked her character in Pinocchio and dislike her character heartily here. A good sign that she is inhabiting her role well! :)

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Yes, I really liked her spunkiness and no-nonsense towards the MSC guy. And So-eun is getting on my nerves, so it does indeed mean she's really throwing herself into the role.

But still can't get over the seeming change in facial structure here haha.

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My favorite scene in Pinocchio was her she shouted "Daebak!" when Dal-Po finally trapped Ro-Sa in the interview.

I think she just got a bit thinner from Pinocchio (and in Pinocchio she wore a lot of heavy winter clothing).

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Waited ALL morning for this recap! Yay!

"She thinks back to a book she read that claimed special moments can begin as something simple, like when Sung-jae brought her sandals after a painful day spent in heels." And her comment about being protected... I think Hana's a little blind? Hello! Who has being looking after you for 17 years? Being your friend and confidant, your shoulder to cry on? Your drinking and chicken feet buddy?

Dear girl, when are you going realise that the man living next door to you is your perfect match?

Wonnie, how can you be any more perfect? I love it that he left So Eun and rushed to Hana's aid...and that smile that can melt the entire North and South pole, the smile that looked so happy to have found her, with soooo much love in it! Even with Hana looking her worst, with mascara running down her cheeks.

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Haha I love your description "that smile that can melt the entire North and South pole". Won-ah really has such a mersmerizing smile !

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I don't doubt that Hana ever liked him. His rejection of her in the past is probably what helps keep her feelings in check, and I think her feelings often resurface, but she's just more practical about them.

Won loves her, but he's already given in to the fact that they can't be together, so he allows his feelings because he will never act on them and has accepted that suffering. Hana thinks he will never love her, allowing her the freedom of moving on with her life in the dating department. I mean, Won hasn't had a girlfriend in three years and is barely dating the second lead right now, while Hana has had three suitors in the drama already!

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This is very much like the American movie called Love Rosie. The main lead for that movie is that guy who played finnick in hunger games.

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I haven't squeed for a drama couple for a while now (last one was Healer!), so I'm loving this, whatever this is.

Won's secret love is already aw-inducing and got me all giddy, and I hope that doesn't turn to frustration. I like that he's not forcing his feelings on her, that despite them, he's supportive of Hana's love life and actually gives good advice. He's a friend first, secret admirer second. And I kind of love that.

I also love that her family is trying to set them up. How many dramas have families bringing our OTP together rather than ripping them apart? I could probably count them on one hand.

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I love friends turned more dramas and this one is amazing. :) It's making me remember when I first watched reply 1997 (I was a little late so I already knew the end game) and I got to squeal over the cute bickering and pining.

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I really liked L's character and was disappointed to see his cameo end that way.

Ugh! Hate the fact i have to wait until Saturday.

Thank you for the recap.

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He made it seem like he genuinely cared about her and manipulated her feelings, while beung aware of her past and her ex. He knew she was vulnerable and that she wanted attentuon from the opposite sex.These gestures (coffee, the umbrella and the slippers) were carefully planned to get a rise out if her. This is as low as one can get.

On the actress, it's really the same one. She just lost some weight. Plus her character in Pinocchio was less "glamorous". She was a VJ, and as such, she was always on the field,. She definitely didn't have time to wear makeup

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I think that was in reply to me. Thanks! The end of episode 4 had a few recap scenes, and there was actually one where Sung-jae said he was falling for her, which pushes it over from mere boot-licking. Oh wells.

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Didn't Hana drive a long way to get to her current location? So how did Won get there so fast in a flash ?

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He didn't get there in a flash. Hehe. There's a whole lot of walking on Ha-na's part plus the stay in the swing before he got to her. The phone call's on voice-over anyway. I guess it just didn't feel like it because of the voice-over. But it's that filming technique where you needn't show exactly how much time passed.

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OIC.. i wish they have emphasised on that part though, to show how long he travelled in order to get to her.

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Well, the fact that they had to stay overnight in a hotel should've been enough to clue people in on the distance.

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In the beginning we saw Won said that Hana doesn't need to spend a night there because that sea-side town is not that far from their place and people can actually drive twice a day to go there.

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But, didn't Won ask Hana why she was goint to stay overnight if the place she was going to was super close to the city? So it'd make sense he'd get there in an hour or two.

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I think my favorite part of this episode was when Ha-na called Won, then his expression immediately changed when he heard her voice. That is one sweet mutual connection I will always swoon about. When that person knows what's wrong just by hearing your voice.

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Won is just so in sync with Hana that unbeknownst to him his entire body reacts to her. His anxious facial expression and his body language just made me swoon. LJW is doing really great as a person who's been in love with his friend since forever. *sigh or sigh*

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I think the acting is great so far. HJW's Hana and Lee Bo-young's Jang Hye-sung are two of the most recent characters in Korean drama that have resonated so much with me. I really felt sorry for Hana when she realized how foolish she was for falling for Sung-jae's trap. Won's expression, upon hearing her voice, was indeed priceless.

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I cannot agree more! The acting's daebak!

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Yes!

I was quite worried it'll be one of those 'he was too busy having fun he didn't notice the phone' angles, but I'm so glad he figured out she was in trouble immediately. (=

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"Whenever So-eun does something cute for Won, Hana seems to take a drink." And similarly, whenever Hana and Won bicker, leaving So-eun out, she takes a drink.....Haha! Well, we all know who Won paid more attention to at that meal!!!

Love that he does all those small things for Hana...helped her with the olives, and picking out the green onions for her. It's really what a loving and caring husband would do for his wife. I know cos my hubby does little things like that for me... shell prawns, crack and de-shell the crab claws for me, eat the stuff I don't like. Hana doesn't know what a lucky girl she is.

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What a lucky girl you are @crazyahjummafan!!! LOL!

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I'm really touched by the seemingly small things that Won does for Hana, like when he mentioned that he doesn't really like scallions but started eating it just because Hana doesn't like it and always gives it to him to eat. Also, in ep 4, when Won tells So Eun that he started getting into artsy stuff just because Hana likes them. And, yeah, I totally swooned when Won rushed to comfort Hana even if he was in a dinner with Mi-hyang and So-eun.

I will really be mad if Won's reason for preventing himself from loving Hana turns out to be too shallow. Ugh.

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Yes, I looved it when he realized the reason he got into art and museums is because of Hana, and I loved it even more when So Eun realized they were in a museum because of HANA. Poor girl, she's doomed to live under Hana's shadow...

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"I will really be mad if Won’s reason for preventing himself from loving Hana turns out to be too shallow. Ugh."

Word. That's why I was shocked and scared when I (mis)read at the top of the thread about homosexuality in the TW version. I thought:

"OMG, No, Won is gay! Hell, sb posted the Ultimate Spoiler."
Thank goodness, that wasn't about Won.

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I love Hana's family! So cute! Glad that they love Won too. That's quite rare in kdramas right?

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me too. Ha Na's family is really supportive. I remember that when they tried to match Won with their 'friend's daughter' which actually referred to Ha Na.

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I am so confused with this show title, here it is "That time i've love you". Some other places its called "The time we were not in love". So is it love or not love?? Makes it hard for me to search for this show.

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It's both. You can find this drama with the titles "The Time I Loved You, 7000 Days" or "The Time We Were Not In Love" because one is the english title and the other is a literal translation. It's really not that hard to search up this drama.

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LOL @prettysup

Since the main protagonists themselves are not sure if they love or don't love each other, I guess the multiple titles reflect the situation correctly!!! :D

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@Growingbeautifully
I am a blessed woman!

Regarding the titles...I personally prefer The Time I loved You cos I strongly believe that they love each and have been doing so the last 7000 days...just that Won can't voice it out and Hana hasn't come to terms with it yet. *cross my fingers, it'll be soon*

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Something else.... we were saying this last recap "it’s somewhat disconcerting that Hana’s bearing the brunt of the shame when she wasn’t the one who cheated or even the one who got pregnant out of wedlock with a cheater. She was the one who was tricked, so to see her be made a pariah when Ho-joon and his new wife are practically exalted either says everything about modern society or nothing at all."

Yes... I found it strange that this unfair treatment of Ha Na is accepted. I guess it is the logic of this drama-verse but what does it say about the values of that group of people in this show? Is it like this where you/we are?

I believe where I am, the ones who would get the disapproval are Ho Joon and wife, and that colleagues would be commiserating with Ha Na and saying what a great thing she did by not being vindictive. Instead of scorn, she deserves so much praise and approval.

With Won as her only true supporter, falling in love with him should happen.

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Where I live it'd be the same way, people would support Hana because she's after all the victim here, but sometimes people can be cruel if they want to for whatever reason and we are seeing how there's, at least, one co-worker of hers that dislikes her, so it isn't that far-fetched to imagine her co-workers criticizing her just...because.

I feel truly bad for her character and I hope she gets through this, especially with a little help from Won >:)

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@Growingbeautifully
It's really ridiculous how Hana is so badly treated by her colleagues when she did no wrong. I really hope that this is not a reflection of Korean society, where just because you're the President's niece, you get away scott free from taking away someone's bf and getting pregnant before marriage, and the man gets applauded because he chose a younger woman? It's amazing that the young bride did not even mind that her husband-to-be was two-timing her. This is not a good start to a marriage, especially when we know that this is not his first time either. To be honest, in my opinion, Hana came out the winner. I've no doubt that in a few years, he'll be probably unfaithful to her.

Also, did anyone feel that Hana's advice to the bride about the shoe design was a kind of warning? Sje said something like, "When I was in my 20s, I liked glittery shoes, but now in my 30s, I'm appreciating shoes that are more comfortable and reliable." Doesn't this sound like a warning about the groom?

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I think Hana and the bride did have a true moment of understanding when Hana, instead of congratulating her, gave her advice on the shoes.

But it all got ruined by the brawl.

I suspect the douchebag pretented that Hana was someone he dated, than someone he was two-timing her with.

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And sorry, forgot to reply to the last bit. I thought of that statement as a warning too. Gee, he might've just married her for the status and money...

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The stylist must be working overtime to make the age gap between the youthful looking HJW appear every time she's onscreen with L (Sung-jae) and Choo Soo-Hyun (So-eun). There's supposed to be an 8 year age difference in their characters (even more in real life) but it just doesn't show. As someone has remarked in a previous comment, So-eun even looks like she's the same age as Hana's. It's probably the reason why the stylist consciously picks out short outfits for So-Eun when she's not working.

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But Hana shows a maturity that So-eun hasn't.

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Something I'm loving about the show is how we begin with Hana's memory of a certain event that, according to her, proves Won has never been interested in her. Then, at the end of the episode, we get Won's version of the same event, where we see he actually feels something for Hana.

It's a great narrative technique, because it makes us feel like we are coming to a full circle each episode and it fills in the spaces in their relationship.

Now I wonder, when is Won going to confess all these things to Hana?

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One of things I loved about the TW version was the little thoughts or mental notes You Qing makes about 'turning 30' at the end of each episode. We don't get that in this version. But what they give us here instead is the flashback scenes in Won's point-of-view, like @Alex Haruko mentioned. :) I, too, find it a great narrative technique and gives a nice touch to help us see things full circle. So far I'm pretty happy with how this remake is turning out. I like the timing with the music used here, too, but I haven't heard THE song yet. The original had such a lovely OST which made the viewing experience that much better.

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I thought betrayal in the Taiwanese original's treatment was harsher. In the K- version, Ha Na could hope for a kernel of truth that Sung Jae found her attractive.

SPOILER for the Taiwanese original: Nic was gay and thus the heroine was just totally being used.

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I love how Won's parents are desperately trying to set him and HN up because they're so unsubtle, and so bad at it. And then we have HN's dongsaeng making sardonic comments in the sidelines as he's dragged into one scheme after the next. Heh.

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I didn't know that Nic's character was gay. haha! I even watched that episode again a couple of days back. I'm loving this remake that I ended up watching ITWY again to fill gaps till next weekend.

I love the small things that this drama recreated like, the brand of bag (LV) that the lady was using on that rainy day, and the outfits of Ariel Lin.

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I'm wondering what "brand of bag (LV) that the lady was using on that rainy day" were you talking about? Hehe

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Poor Ha Na, I cried when she cried. It felt like being betrayed especially when you thought someone really love you. Maybe she desperately wanted to be love.

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The scene where she sat on the swing and CW coming to the rescue was really sweet. Even the mascara running down, HN still looks pretty. If me, maybe like a kungfu panda..hahaha..

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The drama seems to be worth watching... through comments i realize that it should be in my drama list... :)

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Wow. That mascara running in the rain shot all by itself makes me want to watch this series. That's the power of a good director and an expressive actress.

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@Quiet Thought
Remember me from TK2H days?

Since then, I have not found a drama that has stolen my heart so completely ....not even Healer (sorry Healer fans), but this drama has done that! I just hope it continues to be good. Crossing my fingers.

So go watch it!
Would love to read your comments.

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"(Does everyone in this show have inordinately nice houses?)"

If you want a ballpark as to how nice these houses are, they've been filming all the neighborhood scenes across the street from my house. That side of the street (as opposed to my side haha) is a neighborhood that is full of houses that are anywhere from 700,000,000 won to around 2,000,000,000 won (about $700,000 to $2 million). They're not necessarily big by American standards, but for Korea they're definitely large.

Ahem.

I haven't been watching this (why is my life so busy??) but it seems cute, and I'm always a sucker for the friends-turned-lovers trope. Maybe when time frees up I'll have to start, but for now I'm enjoying the recaps.

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OMG! Lee Jinwook...a stone's throw from your house! How do you sleep at night? I'll cancel my schedules and take leave, then make camp on the street... or get myself a powerful telescope!

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Haha! Well, already being married helps with those urges...

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I'm happily married with 4 children... but I'll still do it... if I can get him to flash me one of his twinkling, warm smiles. I know I don't have any hopes of an intense, ice-berg melting one, so I'll take a warm one. My elder daughter would most definitely want to come along too!

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Haha I like that thinking!

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Imagine visiting the set, meeting LJW and, and him throwing one oh "his smiles" your way!!! *heart eyes*, lol

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Have you seen them in person? Any input...? :)

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This episode is daebak! Thanks for the recap!

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Every episodes is really sweet and cute. Love the cinematography and songs. Great chemistry between HJW and LJW.

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Thanks for the recap. I love to read the recap and the comments because it gives me clear picture and the storyline.

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I've tried for three episodes now to like this remake, I've failed, and now I give up.

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How much do flight attendants make in Korea? I doubt if a couple of US flight attendants could afford to live in a $700,000-$2,000,000 house.

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The house seems like parental house mostly since they've been neighbours since childhood so it appears they have been living in the house since childhood... Hana's parents has some shop/ business so I am assuming the brother-sister's parents too had some lucrative job/ business before they died...

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According to globalpost -
"A new flight attendant at a large Korean airline earns around $3,500 a month, with flexible hours and perks."

According to careerbliss-
"Korean Air Flight Attendants earn $30,000 annually, or $14 per hour, which is 24% lower than the national average for all Flight Attendants at $38,000 annually and 68% lower than the national salary average for ​all working Americans. The highest paid Flight Attendants work for Aloha Airlines at $80,000 annually and the lowest paid Flight Attendants work for Lynx Aviation at $26,000 annually. "

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Are you serious? Geez......
In case you forget, that house was already there since Won was still in high school.

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agree with you..

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the episodes are just getting better and better.. Ha Ji Won's acting is awesome.

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I think I'm finally on board with the OTP at this episode. Prior to this, I felt the chemistry was "too" forced. Ha Ji Won was a tad bit over-acting for me, and I wasn't feeling the forlorness with Wonnie that Bolin conveyed quiet easily in the Taiwanese version.

I think this episode sealed the deal. Won's physical reaction to Ha Na's break up really put across all the feelings he's bee suppressing thus far. LJW is doing a great job and I think Ha Ji Won is finally coming into her own with this character.

I think I loved episode 4 even more!

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I agree that it’s bad that the office seemed to gang up on Hana, when in the grand scheme of things there was far worse behavior elsewhere.

But it seems to me that the root of Hana’s problems is that she tends to get so focused on the meta idea of what she wants, that she loses sight of more important realities.

She’s so focused on advancing her career through competitiveness, skill and self reliance, that she doesn’t bother building relationships in the office. (Hence, their petty human nature response, of ostracizing her).

She was so focused on getting married that she didn’t notice her boyfriend was having an affair with another co-worker.

She criticized her intern for using her for personal reasons, while she (the one in power) was using him for personal reasons.

She told Won “All that talk about how I felt with someone saving and protecting me… I guess I was just desperate to be loved like that.” But then when Won immediately drops everything and drives three hours from Seoul to YangYang/Sokcho, simply to rescue her from having to spend a heartbroken night alone - she doesn’t seem to notice that what he’s actually doing is virtually shouting “I always have loved you like that”.

She needs to learn to take her eyes off herself, look beyond the surface of things, and see the things that are deeper and more important.

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And BTW, good news... that dream date doesn't have to be one that can only happen in dramas.

What they showed was an easy day of wandering around in Sokcho. The place they were staying at is a little way down the coast, at the Sol Beach Hotel. Their saltwater spa is a lovely, refreshing way to end the day. :-)

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@Gidget,
I think you've nailed it re Hana's char flaws. She has her strengths and her blind spots. The girl is a lot more focused on doing a good job while interpersonal relationships are not her strong suit. She is not in touch w her own feelings and those of the guy who has spent 17 years next to her, caring for her.
She does need to learn to be more sensitive to the feelings of those she interacts with or else she keep losing out, on opportunities, on relationships.

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@Gidget
Good observation! Let's hope Hana takes her eyes off herself soon!!!
I'm loving these discussions!

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Waiting for episode 4 recap. Fighting!

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