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Entertainer: Episode 3

As the newly formed band grows, growth leads to growing pains, and the boys aren’t getting along very well. Outed secrets lead to distrust and insecurity, but Seok-ho works hard behind the scenes to give the band a solid start. And if nothing else, the boys have something in common in their love for music, if they can learn to trust each other.

 
EPISODE 3 RECAP

Ha-neul looks up from the microphone to see Geu-rin rush into the audition room, followed shortly by Seok-ho. Bolstered by their support, Ha-neul sings, and his strong, confident voice practically blows the roof off the place. It’s hard to say who looks prouder, Geu-rin or Seok-ho.

Geu-rin leaves right after the audition, saying she has somewhere to go. Ha-neul goes with Seok-ho and the others to eat, and he spends the meal glaring at Seok-ho, and finally asks him if he got those marks on his face from a loan shark. Min-joo tries to correct his tone, but has no effect on the kid.

Geu-rin goes to see Joo-han to ask if there’s a trainee named Lee Ji-young at KTOP. Joo-han says that there are too many trainees for him to know them all, but he promises to look into it for her.

In private, Seok-ho reveals that the boys actually have no chance of making it past this first audition — no agency-represented groups allowed. He only had them go through the motions to gain the trust of Ocean Music, the company that Min-joo works for. He wants her to go back to her boss, Mr. Jeong, and tell him how good they are so he’ll invest in an album. That would actually be smart, if the poor boys had been in on it.

He asks Man-shik’s honest opinion of the boys, and Man-shik says that music is all about sentiment. In his opinion, Ha-neul has it, that Thing that makes someone a star. Plus, both boys are good-looking, so he thinks they can make it, “As long as you don’t cheat.” Yeah, that’s the kicker, innit?

Joo-han calls Seok-ho to spill the beans that he knows about the new band, and also that Geu-rin keeps coming to KTOP. He says ominously for Seok-ho to keep a close watch on his new boys, and the camera pans around to show us Ji-young, sitting right next to Joo-han.

A series of hazy flashbacks show us a bit of whatever happened that night between Ha-neul and Ji-young — the girl cowering in fear, Ha-neul letting himself into her house through an open door, then being led away, protesting, by the police.

Back in the present, Joo-han tells Ji-young that Geu-rin keeps showing up because Ji-young made her upset. Later Ji-young makes an angry phone call to someone, asking if they told anyone that they keep in contact, and she asks them for a favor.

Meanwhile Joo-han reports what he knows about Seok-ho’s plans to CEO Lee. Neither of them see Seok-ho as much of a threat, and Joo-han says that he’ll take care of it.

A young man with a guitar strapped to his back wanders into the Mango office while Seok-ho is wondering what to do about Geu-rin, and he introduces himself as NA YEON-SOO (Lee Tae-sun). He’d been playing in the background once while Seok-ho was entertaining a client, and Seok-ho had defended him when he didn’t want to lend the drunk client his guitar.

Yeon-soo heard that Seok-ho lost Jackson and is starting a new band, and his bright smile and cheerful nature make Seok-ho suspicious, hee. Seok-ho says they already have a guitarist, but Yeon-soo is more than happy to play bass — I have a feeling everything makes this kid happy.

Seok-ho prepares to introduce Yeon-soo to Ha-neul and Kyle, and everyone is shocked when Yeon-soo arrives with his tiny, adorable… son. Oops. Seok-ho grabs Yeon-soo to talk outside, and Ha-neul offers to play with the kid, whose name is Chan-hee. (Shockingly, Ha-neul lights up around the kid, he’s a whole different person!)

Yeon-soo admits that he didn’t mention his son for fear of rejection, and Seok-ho confirms that a young father can’t be a celebrity. He simply can’t have a married man in his band… but Yeon-soo says that’s okay, he’s not married. But but but — that’s not better!

Yeon-soo apologizes for not mentioning Chan-hee sooner, and starts to slink off like a whipped puppy, but he turns back to thank Seok-ho for standing up for him that once. He goes back into the office to collect Chan-hee while Seok-ho struggles with his conscience.

Kyle is happy to see Yeon-soo go, but Ha-neul doesn’t think it’s fair that ex-cons are allowed, but single fathers aren’t. He’s got a point. He gets a little revenge on Seok-ho, following him around singing the children’s song that Chan-hee was singing, trying to wear Seok-ho down the same way he wore Ha-neul down.

Unable to get Ha-neul’s words out of his head, Seok-ho soon finds himself pacing outside the bar where Yeon-soo works, furious with himself for even being here. He finally goes inside and witnesses Yeon-soo being yelled at by a patron, yet still keeping that cheerful smile on his face.

Seok-ho barges into the room and without a word, just gives Yeon-soo a “let’s go” nod. Yeon-soo smiles gratefully, and they collect Chan-hee where he’s sleeping in an upstairs room and head out together. Seok-ho tells Yeon-soo to find a bass guitar and come to the office tomorrow, and as he walks away, he complains that he’ll regret this. Maybe, but you did the right thing. The Tin Man may yet have a heart.

Kyle is comically horrified when he hears Chan-hee’s bright little voice in the morning, but Seok-ho warns him to chill and start writing some songs. Yeon-soo is surprised to hear that they only practice on the weekends because the lead vocalist is a high school student, so they decide to go down to Busan to practice during the week.

At one point, Kyle slaps Chan-hee’s hand away from some snacks, and finds himself on the receiving end of identical glare-hisses from both father and son. I’m going to love those two, I can tell already. Then they figure out that Yeon-soo is the hyung, and he relishes speaking banmal to the ever-more-irritated Kyle.

Ha-neul and Chan-hee are already thick as thieves, and the four boys sit down to finally make some serious music. They disagree on which of Kyle’s songs to use, and conversation turns to dating, which Ha-neul nervously swears he has not done. But they figure out that he must like someone, and the immediate cut to Geu-rin can’t be an accident.

She’s thinking about Ha-neul too, and calls him to see how the band member meeting is going. When she hears that one of them has a child, she invites the whole band to stay at their place.

But on her way home Geu-rin finds a group of Ha-neul’s classmates vandalizing their street, writing hateful words about Ha-neul on the walls. She chases them off and calls Ha-neul, trying to warn him not to bring his friends here, but his phone is off. She frantically tries to wash it all off before the guys arrive, but she’s not fast enough.

Of course, Ha-neul is more concerned with Geu-rin being so upset, and he rushes over to stop her. Kyle reads the word “rapist” and immediately knows that this is what Ha-neul meant by mentioning convicts, and Ha-neul sends them away and pulls Geu-rin inside.

Joo-han attempts to cajole Min-joo’s boss, Mr. Jeong, away from his commitment to invest in an album for Seok-ho’s new band, promising him an chance to get in on Jackson’s next album. And, seeing as how one of their members is finishing his army duty soon and plans to do a solo album, this could be a big opportunity.

Ha-neul silently fumes while Geu-rin tries and fails to cheer him up, and a commotion outside has him storming to the front door. Awww, it’s Yeon-soo and Chan-hee, painting over the vicious graffiti with an adorable mural. I can’t even deal with these two. Ha-neul looks like he’s fighting tears, and Geu-rin doesn’t bother to fight.

Back in Seoul, everything in the Mango office is covered in red repossession stickers when Min-joo next visits. She and Seok-ho go to talk to her boss, but he’s gone for the day, and Seok-ho instinctively knows that he’s avoiding them. He wants to go to Mr. Jeong’s house, alone, to speak with him.

Later that night, Yeon-soo tells Ha-neul to stay positive — sometimes things don’t go your way, but he believes in Ha-neul. Ha-neul just sends him back inside to his son and goes for a walk, and Yeon-soo thanks Geu-rin for letting them stay the night.

Seok-ho waits for Mr. Jeong outside his house, which gives him a fantastic view of Joo-han taking him home after they’ve both been drinking. He knows this is why Mr. Jeong will be withdrawing his investment, and his eyes go hard.

He meets with Kyle, who’s furious that he wasn’t told that Ha-neul is a convicted sex offender. Seok-ho is oddly calm, and asks if Kyle has never been falsely accused of anything before, saying that Ha-neul is innocent.

He admits that he was shocked at first, and debated about it, but he decided to trust Ha-neul. Kyle barks that he doesn’t trust anything when they have a sex offender as a lead singer, and says that he won’t stay in the band if Ha-neul stays.

Clearly he’s expecting Seok-ho to dump Ha-neul, and he gapes when that doesn’t happen. Seok-ho says that he doesn’t want to lose Kyle, but if he decides not to be in a band with Ha-neul, then he’ll help him find a different band to play in. He tells Kyle to think about it, and they’ll talk again in a few days.

On his walk home, Seok-ho passes a Jackson poster and stops to take a closer look. He particularly focuses on Jinu, the leader and member he was closest with. He remembers a time when he’d followed Jinu after he ran away from the agency, not content to be someone else’s backup dancer. Seok-ho had asked Jinu to trust him, promising that he’d make him a star.

Min-joo gently breaks the news to Seok-ho that they lost Ocean Music’s investment, so Seok-ho goes to see Joo-han about the issue. He says that he’s feeling a lot of regret about the way he planned to steal Jackson from CEO Lee, now that he’s had them stolen from him by Joo-han.

Joo-han grins that that’s just the way the world works, and Seok-ho loses his temper a bit, demanding to know why Joo-han is doing this. Joo-han smirks that it’s a company secret and Seok-ho doesn’t work for KTOP anymore, so he doesn’t need to know.

He probably should just stop there, but Joo-han is on a power trip, and tells Seok-ho that he should just quit the industry and open that little seaside restaurant he’s thought about. He even offers to invest in it, but Seok-ho declines him smoothly, and leaves.

Seok-ho takes Min-joo some papers for Mr. Jeong, just saying “it’s to get back at Joo-han” when she asks what they are. She delivers the documents, which reduce Mr. Jeong to a screaming mess, and he calls Joo-han to yell at him.

A flashback shows us that Seok-ho and CEO Lee already arranged to produce the returning Jackson member’s solo comeback album with a different investor, which renders Joo-han’s promises to Mr. Jeong worthless. Mr. Jeong is furious, and Joo-han calls Seok-ho to give him credit for getting one over on him.

Min-joo advises Mr. Jeong to lift the property seizures he’s levied on Seok-ho, for fear of professional backlash. With no other choice, Mr. Jeong is forced to let Seok-ho and Mango keep the investment money.

Kyle goes to Min-joo for advice on what to do, and since Ha-neul is coming to Seoul to practice, she asks Kyle not to say anything for now. He agrees, but gives Ha-neul the stink-eye when he shows up, saying that he wrote a great song but he’s not sure whether he can trust it to Ha-neul.

Still complaining, Kyle plays the song for everyone, and it’s pretty good. Seok-ho grins that Kyle went to Julliard for a reason, and they all nod to the music until Min-joo arrives with her assistant.

It’s the tiniest little cameo by Park Shin-hye, and she barely gets to set the drinks down and say hello before Min-joo dismisses her. HA, that was hilarious. Man-shik joins the group and starts at the sight of Chan-hee, surprised to see a kid here, and mutters that their band sure is getting interesting.

Min-joo pulls Seok-ho aside to ask what he plans to do about Ha-neul’s conviction, not accepting his “kids will be kids” brush-off. She tells him that Kyle’s concerned and wants them to remove both Ha-neul and Yeon-soo and find new members. She thinks they can be okay with the single father, but Ha-neul has to go.

Min-joo doesn’t care if Ha-naul was framed — what matters is that this conviction will follow him for the rest of his life. If someone discovers this, it won’t just be Ha-neul who’s destroyed, it will be all of them. Seok-ho just argues that they can say they’re looking for the real culprit, and even says he’ll actually do it, though it’s obviously not something he’s thought about.

Min-joo thinks this is just a terrible idea from any angle, and she warns Seok-ho to get his head on straight. And from the doorway nearby, we see that Ha-neul has come outside and heard their entire conversation. Oof. He wanders the streets, remembering the few happy moments he’s had since this whole band thing started, devastated to think of these people he’s growing to care for being hurt because of him.

Seok-ho tries to call Ha-neul, but Ha-neul declines his calls (and interestingly, Seok-ho is saved in Ha-neul’s phone as “Caramel” — Seok-ho is always giving caramels to Jinu in flashbacks, did he used to give Ha-neul caramels too?). Ha-neul literally collapses in the street, leaning against a wall, paralyzed with indecision.

Seok-ho ends up sending Ha-neul the file of Kyle’s song, and despite his conflicted feelings, Ha-neul works late into the night composing lyrics. Geu-rin also can’t sleep and she calls Seok-ho, asking him to come to Busan so they can have a chat.

He does, and she tells him that she didn’t know Ha-neul could sing quite that well. She wants him to have a better support system, but Seok-ho still thinks she’s going behind his back to KTOP, and snarks that she can do whatever she wants, as long as she doesn’t go to KTOP.

Geu-rin defends that she wasn’t there for the reason that he thinks — it was something for Ha-neul’s case. Seok-ho immediately goes from snarling pit bull to meek puppy, heh, and says that he’ll trust her, then.

He’s shocked into silence when Geu-rin says she wants to be Ha-neul’s manager, then has the nerve to ask him to teach her how to do that. Seok-ho argues that it’s not easy — a manager can’t ever leave the client, doesn’t get personal time, and doesn’t even have time to date. Geu-rin says that all that matters is Ha-neul, and she’s willing to sacrifice all of those things for him.

Ha-neul finally calls Seok-ho after he’s back in Seoul, and says that he’s in town too, having left school early just to bring Seok-ho the song he wrote. Seok-ho laughs but his face falls as he reads the lyrics, recognizing that they’re actually very good. But something in Ha-neul’s expression reminds me of before he met Seok-ho, and I’m worried.

Seok-ho gets starry-eyed thinking of his new band’s talent, but Ha-neul came in person for a reason — to tell Seok-ho that he’s quitting the band. In fact, he plans to quit singing entirely. Seok-ho’s first reaction is anger, that he went through all this and even formed a band for Ha-neul, and now he’s just going to quit?

Ha-neul says, still in that dead voice, that he naively thought that people would believe him if he said he was falsely convicted. But he never thought the people around him would get hurt, and now that he knows, he can’t go forward.

He sincerely thanks Seok-ho for letting him live his dream, even if only for a little while. He slides Seok-ho a box of those caramels he’s always eating, and a Nirvana Nevermind album that we previously saw in the box where Ha-neul kept the photo of Seok-ho, and leaves.

Seok-ho reaches for the box and the album with shaking hands, and his face crumples as the sound of Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit” swells. He goes running after Ha-neul, but he’s already gone.

With the album and caramel box still in hand, Seok-ho finds his way to Ha-neul’s family crypt, and stand in front of the photo of his parents and brother with tears in his eyes. Now he remembers Ha-neul: “Sung-hyun, is Ha-neul your younger brother?” There, next to the photo of Ha-neul and his family, is a box of the same brand of caramels that Seok-ho holds in his hand.

While Seok-ho cries at the realization of who Ha-neul really is, Ha-neul rides the train home to Busan, shedding tears of his own.

COMMENTS

This episode definitely felt a lot smoother, editing-wise, and a lot more purposeful with doling out information. Whether that’s because all the initial groundwork has already been laid, or whether the show learned from its first-week mistakes, or both, it made events and characters a lot easier to follow. I’m still skeptical of, and confused by, all the Seoul/Busan hopping (I’m pretty sure that Ha-neul’s family crypt is in Busan, for example, and many of the in-person conversations could be held over the phone without ten hours on a train being necessary), but it’s the least of the show’s continuity problems so I’m willing to overlook it as long as the other issues are being addressed. But as far as the story goes, I actually find myself liking the raw, emotional tack the show is taking with Ha-neul and his family background (and whatever is going on with his conviction) because, even though it’s not what I was expecting, it’s giving the characters a lot more to work with than just “Whee, let’s form a band!”

For instance, I really like how the show explores the grittier side of the entertainment industry — the wheeling and dealing, the promises and lies, and more than anything, how it uses young people and their talent and their dreams for its own ends. Our band isn’t even fully-formed and yet we have a single father and a convicted sex offender (whether or not it’s true), and with the atmosphere of the kpop industry as it is now, either one of these things would be career-ending for a n established band, much less one just starting out. But Min-joo is correct, and whether or not it’s right, to have both in one group is professional suicide. So I’m curious why Seok-ho is so determined to go through with this when he knows full well that they’ll have more anti-fans than fans, and this band will almost certainly never even get off the ground.

Speaking of which, I really wish we were privy to more of Seok-ho’s thoughts at this point. He’s a really closed book when it comes to his motivations, and we aren’t even given a good narrative reason for him to keep his plans so close to the vest. I want to think he does have a good reason, and it’s not just that his character hasn’t been fleshed-out enough, but we’re three episodes in and I still know very little about him or what he’s thinking. I’m still willing to wait and see if that changes and we get a chance to know what he’s cooking up, but if we don’t find out soon, it’s getting chalked up as a narrative flaw.

And what’s worse, as I feared, it seems that Seok-ho hasn’t turned over a new leaf with his recent bad fortune, merely seeing it as something to be endured until he gets back on top again. The fact that he’s already lying to Ha-neul and Kyle (about the audition being valid) is despicable, and he doesn’t even seem all that sorry about it. He’s not even that interested in them, really… they’re just the group that will propel him back to success. I have no doubt that, if nothing changed for Seok-ho, and if he does become successful again, “Ddanddara Band” will be the first thing he dumps for the next, bigger, better group. But then there are moments when Seok-hoo seems to be a very caring person, and even though I said last week that I want Seok-ho to just be this horrible, terrible person so that his redemption story is satisfying, after this episode I feel more confused about him than anything.

Ha-neul is really my favorite character so far, and I think Kang Min-hyuk is nailing this role. He’s a great foil for Seok-ho, never letting him get away with anything. I especially loves how Ha-neul uses Seok-ho’s own words against him — Seok-ho says and does things just to get his own way, but Ha-neul keeps managing to twist them around so that they have a better meaning, and get a better result. He uses the fact that Seok-ho allowed him in the band because it suited him even though he’s an ex-convict, to put a burr in his saddle about Yeon-soo being a good man and father, yet he’s not allowed to be one of them. Seok-ho may have only bent the rules for nefarious reasons, but when it comes down to it, he can’t argue with Ha-neul’s logic.

Ha-neul is also a closed-off person, but you’re never left wondering what he’s thinking or feeling, which isn’t an easy thing to pull off. He’s actually extremely sensitive and caring, and it’s obvious that he already feels devastated to think that he has to choose between following his dream, or putting the people he’s already come to care about in harm’s way because of his past. Ha-neul has a choice to make, and it won’t be an easy one, because either way someone gets hurt. And he’s only a kid, without anyone to guide him as to the right thing to do. It’s Ha-neul’s journey that I look forward to watching the most.

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on the real tho, is this drama worth a watch?

i love ji sung but am pretty blehh about everyone else. i'm currently only watching monster so i am open to possibly giving another drama a go (since GBMB is basically a no go for me at this point. i tried so hard but that drama's just a huge mess lol)

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The pace is really slow and sometimes it's downright boring, but it's heartwarming.

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No.

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This is better than a lot of other dramas.

Can understand that some people aren't that interested in (back-handed) business deals or the pace of putting together a band, but this has kept my interest enough.

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Well, if you can swallow Monster I'm pretty sure you can give a second chance to Entertainer too. They are equally bad.

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I totally disagree with you. Monster may not be something new or exceptionally groundbreaking but it sure as hell is much more funny and fast pace and over-all more entertaining at this point. Its typical revenge drama and over the top but one that is totally acceptable as guilty pleasure and you don't get bored or you don't want to fast forward and look at Ji Sung to find reasons to watch it.
@Kayla
I'd say hold on this one and stick to the recaps. Binge watch later because I'm still conflicted about this drama.

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Agreed. Monster is such a fun, campy watch which has greatly exceeded my expectations. Hooked me since the first episode and has only gotten more interesting with subsequent episodes. Especially after I promised myself not to get hooked on another 50 episode drama! Lol. I fell hard for SFD and am liking Monster a lot as well.

I'm sticking with Entertainer primarily because of Ji Sung, although Min hyuk is an added bonus. Ji Sung's great in anything, and I keep expecting this drama to surprise me. So far it hasn't, although it has improved from the first two episodes. Maybe it isn't convincing enough? Still hoping that the drama gets better for Ji Sung's sake.

Hyeri's wide eyed innocent act when she's in scenes with Ji Sung bugs me more than her enunciation. For a guardian of a teen aged boy and a college drop out, she's a little too innocent and unworldly.

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It does not take 10 hours between Busan and Seoul.
With ITS it takes 2.5 hours

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I mean KTX

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This was my first time watching Hyeri besides her small stint on that high school detectives drama, and I didn't watch season three of reply, but I heard enough about it and all the hype in regard to her acting to expect something more than what she's been giving.

Suffice it to say, her acting is the opposite of good. Her expressions are serviceable enough for this type of drama, but her pronunciation is terrible.

She's not lead material.

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I can't figure out a way to ask this without it sounding confrontational, so disclaimer: I'm just genuinely curious, not trying to stir shit or something. Anyway:

What does pronunciation have to do with good acting? Like, is it speaking clearly without mumbling? Or are we talking about some Korean dialectical thing? I know there's, you know, a Seoul dialect that is preferred or... something. Is that it? I see people talk about pronunciation when criticizing Korean actors and I'd love to know what I'm missing.

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I mean, considering the fact that one of the biggest parts of being an actor is to read the lines given to you by a writer while conveying emotions behind the words, I would say pronunciation is a pretty big deal.

In her case, she sounds like she's slurring and her speech just doesn't sound polished imo. I feel like international audiences have a hard time picking up on this since they are not native speakers...but neither am I, and I thought it was glaringly obvious.

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ah, I see, I see. I've just never heard it as a common criticism of english-speaking actors, so I wasn't sure if there was some Korean-specific thing I was missing. I definitely haven't noticed anything strange about the way she talks, but I'm not the sort to pick up on that sort of thing anyway.

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I think english speaking actor get this criticism too,
like the fast furious guy, the batman voice change, the bad accent in age of ultron, too many huh in kristen steward dialogue, the way some character talk, etc
it just it's not a lot of understandable english speaker in western series when you need to think after they talked.

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Hyeri was okay in Answer Me (though the weakest link actingwise) and I thought that the unclear speaking fitted the character well. I agree that her acting is lacking here. A lot. But the slurred speech doesn't bother me here either. I mean, the character isn't even the sophisticated type, so I don't think the unpolished speech is so much of a flaw.
Others, Uee for example, also have different pronounciation. It's just that Hyeri is still very inexperienced and isn't able to pack emotion into narrations all that well yet. I'm sure her pronounciation will be less of a bother when she manages the emotion part better.

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I'll weigh in here: Enunciation is pretty important for a Korean actor, not necessarily for reasons of emoting or acting skill, but because Korean is quite an efficient language and can use very few syllables to get a lot of meaning across (comparatively to other languages). So, bad enunciation and mumbling makes an actor plain hard to understand -- the viewer has to think about what was said for a second after the line is delivered. When an actor has bad pronunciation/enunciation, it's an active impediment to following the story.

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I thought it might be something like that, but thought I'd get some more expert confirmation. Thanks everyone!

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She did sounds unbalance, like fast forwarding speech without clear on what she is saying,
it's kinda like the dominic toretto guy in early series of fast & furious when you kinda guess what he is saying,

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I felt this about Goo Hye Sun in Blood. Like, when even non-speakers can tell that your pronunciation is way off and far too affected, then there really must be a problem. She just came across as strangely incoherent, as if she herself didn't speak the language. Initially I thought it must just be me, since it's not like I understand Korean completely, but then I read the reviews and k-netizen comments and they talked about the same thing.

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I did notice her speech seemed kind of... lispy? Or something. It's so interesting to find out how much of a big deal clear speech is instead of just a minor quirk that might annoy some people but not others.

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Whenever people mention pronunciation, Kwon Sang-woo comes to my mind. People mock his pronunciation like forever (tongue being short? sound), and some think he is bigger star overseas (Japan) maybe because pronunciation is not an issue if you don't speak Korean.

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People also notice when the actor/actress has good pronunciation I think. I remember to read they complimented Kim Myung-min's clear and accurate pronunciation one time. Personally I noticed Park Jin-hee sounds really clear in Memory.

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I think Kwon Sang Woo has a minor lisp (or at least, that's how it sounds to me).

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Lead though? She's seriously barely in the drama.

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Lol

So far, with all the parts she's been given, she doesn't qualify to be called the lead actress. Chae Jung An has way more scenes than Hyeri does at this point. Which is only right as she's the more experienced actress.

Maybe this drama will do a 180 and pull a Coffee House on us, then Ji Sung and Chae Jung An's characters would end up together? It might be a tall order since I haven't seen any apparent chemistry between them, though.

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Thanks for the recap!

This show has a lot of hearts and potentials so I'll keep watching it for now. I also looove the way the boys interact with each other. Can't wait for the next episode to find out what was the relationship between Ha-neul's hyung and Seok-Ho.

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i wanted to like this show, and i thought i would. love ji sung, love hyeri. but so far it's painfully boring and why does it feel so slow? i have a whole pailful of complaints, and in the end i want to blame the directing.

i mean, there's something lacking with the directing when you recognize that the actor is good (ji sung), but somehow you just aren't sucked in and your eyelids are drooping while watching. i think hyeri's all right, though the courtroom scene in episode 1 wasn't very good and showed that her enunciation needs a little work. but i love her voice (so unique and fresh sounding) and though she isn't as charming as she was as deok-sun, i feel like a better director would have been able to play her up a little better. same for ji sung.

and i think chae jung-ahn is actually just bad in this role. she doesn't suit it. and kang min-hyuk just looks too old to be a high schooler, let alone younger than hyeri.

ayiyiyiyi. i'll still be watching for the time being, just to see if anything changes, but definitely a huge disappointment.

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Based on the teasers, I thought it would be a laugh-until-your-guys-burst-all-the-time kind of drama. But this isn't. What it is, doesn't matter, as long as I'm entertained.

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I'm really enjoying this show despite it not being as zany (yet, hopefully) as the treaser promised. I see Ji Sung brings a little of that over exuberance (very little so far) - like the time he literally startled Ha Neul as he walked away muttering to himself (can I call it "muttering" when some of it is loud enough to startle a person 25 feet away? )

And this is why I don't like trailers. I would be totally lost in enjoying this show AS IS, but I keeping waiting for the type of show I saw in the trailer.

I'll get over it though because I'm liking it even without the madcap excitement.

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Blehh such a boring boring boring drama, Ji Sung looks so old and what the ell he's doing in this drama and Hyeri with such bland acting, hmmm just not my cup of tea

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<Ji Sung looks so old

He looks his age and there's nothing wrong with that.

Nor would it make sense if he were younger/younger looking – he's playing an experienced music producer. You can't cast a 20 year old (or anyone under 30 really) in that role because, guess what, in reality people in that position in the business (unless they are total newbies) are going to be 30, 40, 50, 60....

Seriously, it's good he's somewhat age-appropriate for this role because we get too many 20-somethings veteran doctors/lawyers/you name in kdramas as it is.

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Amen to that @alua! Lee Jong-Suk drove me crazy in Doctor Stranger....even if he's supposed to play a boy genius doctor, he just looks too young and...fragile? Can't come up with the right description. What a mess that drama was!

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Has anyone made a good joke in the vein of "Entertainer? More like Snoozefest" yet? My own attempts are all terrible, but I feel like someone funnier than I am could be sitting on a gold mine here.

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so I am confused is min-hyuk in love with hyeri isn't she his sister??!!

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I thought it was more like he used to have feelings for Ji Sung until she went all crazy. But if he does have feelings for Hyeri's character I don't think it's a problem, they have different famillynames, so there's a good chance they're not actually related.

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They're not related, but more on that in the next episode...

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REALLY? they arent related? this explained why hyeri doesn't in the family photos at the brother tomb...

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Park shin hye brief appearance was just to deliver coffee ? what kind of cameo is that ?

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Think she did it for her own promotion- she got a drama coming soon. This cameo is the easiest- no lines to memorize, no need to act too

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It was not a pre-planned cameo by Park Shin Hye. She had visited the set with a truck load of coffee and snacks to cheer and support everyone....

She knew lot of people ...... script writer Yoo Young Ah from “Miracle of Room 7"...director Hong Sung Chang from “You’re Beautiful"..... Kang Min Hyuk from CNBlue, heartstrings, Heirs and ....also her very good friend... actress Chae Jung Ahn.

When the PD suddenly suggested that she appear in cameo, Shinhye agreed out of loyalty and friendship. There was no script or anything. It was all very spontaneous.

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Yess ... Park Shinhye is one of CNBLUE's best pal, especially with Yonghwa and Minhyuk. She even called Minhyuk "my son" on Jung Yonghwa's Hologram episode 1, which is very very very adorable.

But Park Shinhye is everybody's friend and everybody wants to be her friend, lol. It's understandable that PD wanted her to make cameo no no matter what, and even if it's unscripted.

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I actually love the slow pace of this drama. Those little poignant moments that the characters are able to bring. Like Seok Ho telling off the drunk director about an instrument being precious to an entertainer, Yeon soo and Chan Hee painting over the words on Hanuel's walls and gate, Ji nu holding onto the caramel pack and remembering at the same time Hanuel was handing over the caramel pack as a gift to Seok Ho. The significance of that moment, showing that Seok Ho might be a jerk but somewhere deep down, he's a lost boy who goes around connecting with other lost boys, I felt a pang.

I don't think Entertainer is everyone's cup of tea, but so far, it's mine and I'm loving it.

Oh, and did anyone else catch the whole Ji Young calling a friend and at about the same time her and Hanuel's classmates show up to spray slurs on Hanuel's walls? So not only did she ruin his life, she also wants him to become a pariah and relocate? All so she can debut with a group that might not be all that successful? Show, I hope she gets what is coming to her. Urgh!

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I'm loving this show so far and really enjoying those little moments and interactions between the characters. I loved it when Ha-neul offered to play with Chan-hee and how bright and happy he looked. His decision to quit the band and singing is heartbreaking yet understandable. He's not yet attached to the people in his band but he started to care and later when everything becomes known not only he himself but everyone around him will be affected. It's sad but the entertainment industry is really scary.

It reminded me of Tablo. I know those two are two different cases -way too different- but he and his whole family suffered a lot because some guy woke up one day and decided to dig up Tablo's academic background and accuse him for lying about it! News about this was everywhere and people went all crazy calling names and demanding THE TRUTH! and this was only because of his academic record, what if it's something bigger? sexual assault?! Even if it's a false accusation you're doomed!

Anyway, Kang Min Hyuk is doing an amazing job bringing so much emotions to Ha-neul, I thought Ji sung would have to carry this show but everyone is putting their share of efforts and I'm glad!

Thanks for the recap.

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@Itenoria I agree with your comment 100%! <3

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Much better than last week! I really liked this episode, maybe even more so because I decided to throw all musical logic out the window and just forget what I know about music and the industry lol. Also gave up on keeping track of the whole Busan-Seoul thing, hopefully they'll all be in Seoul soon.

I love Yeon Soo. He's just adorable and I love, love, LOVE that he's a young single dad. My first time seeing that in a kdrama and certainly my first time seeing it as a part of a character who'll be struggling to make it big as a musician.

I've begun to appreciate Kang Min Hyuk as an actor, having just started watching Heartstrings. It's tough to portray a character like Ha Neul and not make people feel like you're a boring or wooden actor, but after this ep and after seeing him play a completely different role, I think he's much better than I originally gave him credit for.

Hyeri's acting though.. It's grating. Her delivery of dialogue is exceptionally bad, there's no emotion and it feels monotonous. Someone please give the woman some coaching á la Singin' in the Rain! Her character is also getting on my nerves. She really doesn't take care of Ha Neul all that well and WHY would she be his manager? Ugh, the most annoying plot device ever has reared it's ugly head.

I know I said I threw musical logic out the window, but what is with Kyle's song? Dude. That is not musical gold. That is like the most simple, standard pop/rock song in the history of music. It's virtually impossible to write a song that hasn't pretty much been written before, but there are literally hundreds of thousands of songs like that one. I doubt a real life Seok Ho would go gaga over it, it sounds so familiar that netizens would dig up a million songs to claim plagiarism within five minutes.

The End. (gosh I need to stop writing these novel-long comments that no one reads lol)

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I read it! ☺ know that thoughts and comments here on db are valuable - even if you don't seem to hear others responding to you.

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@Yix, that's a very encouraging thing to say, thanks :) I love to read other people's comments, but always get self-conscious about my own, especially since they're always so long!

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Lol, i read your novel, though I dropped the drama but still reading the comments

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@Rozen, can't believe anyone took the time to read it, let alone more than one person haha, thanks :)

The two first episodes were very shaky, I was really annoyed with them, but I think it has potential and hope that it just hasn't found its feet yet. I get why people would drop it though, especially as its tone is so different from what we all thought it'd be.

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Kinda have to disagree with you about the "genius" song, for a couple of reasons.

1) The show has to establish that there's some sort of talent here so they're naturally going to overhype whatever song the band comes out with. It's a necessary trope.

2) Nothing is less romantic than preaching to your audience about how every last pop song they've jammed out to is basically the same thing. The same four chords over and over again. With a monotony that makes bassists everywhere want to beat their heads into the wall... lol.

3) New, revolutionary music rarely does well. And generally speaking the public has to be eased into the new by someone they're familiar with. Case in point: Rock n Roll. Eventually it caught on, but not until it was marketed in a way that made the middle class more comfortable with it. A newbie band with controversial members isn't exactly an ideal group to introduce anything new into the market. They're better off starting with something more approachable and banking on the shock factor of their history for publicity. Which leads me to...

4) If Seok Ho is going for the "all publicity is good publicity" tactic here, a trumped up plagarism scandal might actually be a good thing. Market the boys as poor, misunderstood artists who are fighting against the world, defeat baseless plagarism accusations, gain a highly devoted following, slowly increase popularity. Seen that forumula used a couple of times.

On a different note: I'm so glad I'm not the only music geek watching this thing! I'm actually really enjoying it. It's dramaland so of course the young boy is going to follow his dreams and everything will just fall into place, but I just love shows that show the darker side to this industry. A darker side that's always been there, contrary to popular opinion. This isn't a new thing. Artists have always been making the choice between money and artistry. People in power have always been able to manipulate and influence what is put out. Simultaneous discovery is a thing because we're all subconciosuly looking for the golden ratio. And pretty much every composer everywhere has plagarised at some point. (Here's looking at you, Mozart.) I hope that they don't shy away from these themes too much.

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Love your in-depth comment (:

1) Agreed, they always do that (and it always bugs me lol), however in this case, I really think it's way too far-fetched. Especially considering that the guy's been to Julliard.

2 & 3) Haha yeah, it might not be romantic, but true nonetheless. I don't want them to reinvent the wheel, just those four chords have produced some amazing songs, that don't all sound alike. In this case the entire song felt like deja-vu. In other musical dramas such as SUFBB, the new songs at least felt like that and still had a distinct feeling.

4) That's true. It could give them some free publicity, however with all the huge scandalous issues with these guys, it probably wouldn't be a good idea. If Seok Ho was scandal-free and the guys' past were of the most "innocent", grade A kind, then plagiarism might actually do some good for them. But as things are they'd probably go down in flames. That aside, it was more meant to illustrate just how generic the song is - Seok Ho looked genuinely impressed (though of course, one never knows with SH) and that is what bothers me.

Me? Music geek? Never! *hides old high school paper on Dylan's transition from acoustic to electric guitar*
The first two episodes I didn't enjoy that much, but I'll watch anything that combines my love for acting and music, 'cause I'm easy like that. I did really enjoy this episode though and I'm right there with you: I love when they show the darker side of the industry. So many people have utopian dreams of being a singer with an amazing life and that's just usually not reality. I don't get why people think it's a new thing. Ever heard of Elvis anyone? And before then, when live performances were all that could be had, it wasn't exactly a glamorous industry either. It's always been cut-throat and starvation. Sad, but true. You can't NOT "plagiarize" (in the copying sense, not the legal, cause that's a whole other ballgame) when it comes to cultural products. Unless you're insane and make fish in a blender a cultural event (yeah, I'd say don't go there. Also, it's already been done, so please don't do it thinking you can be innovative). Music is like storytelling - every story there is to tell has already been told, the only difference is in details and delivery.

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Yes, I like the single dad character (though I don't think the actor is very good. Just so-so.).

Hyeri's character is terribly (well, boringly) written and not well acted. It's one of those cases where you can see the actor thinking of how they should act in the scene. It doesn't feel natural and it's very limited.

<Ugh, the most annoying plot device ever has reared it’s ugly head.

Agree. And agree on the music. All the music so far is so very generic and that's really not helpful in a drama where we're supposed believe that Seok-ho picked these guys off the street for their one-of-kind, genius talent. Shut Up Flower Boy Band, Monstar, etc. all had much much better music (yes, some where covers – but at least those covers conveyed talent and much more compelling singing voices).

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I don't think I've seen enough of Yeon Soo yet to say whether the actor is good or bad. He's cute though, that's always good ha.

Yep, it really is an unfortunate incident of both bad acting AND writing. A good actor can do wonders with a poorly written character and a bad actor can still be somewhat watchable with a well-written character, but when both sides are bad? Then it becomes unbearable. I'm not even sure acting lessons would help her. Either you have it or you don't. Lots of new actors who aren't perfect but where you can feel the potential is there, but I have a feeling she's the new Suzy and will never get it.

To the drama's defense, in episode 2, Seok Ho did say that he didn't find Ha Neul amazing, but just needed some guys to do a quick album and get things up and running. So I'm fine with them not being geniuses, but yeah, SUFBB for instance had way better music (even Heartstrings have better songs). This OST is just bland and it just feels lazy...

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oh! I see they r not related!!
thanks for the info

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No problem (: It's just a guess though, but most people seem to agree that they're not real siblings based on the "evidence".

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This episode was definitely better than last week. However, I still don't find myself connecting with Hyeri's character and the blame falls squarely on her acting. This is the first time watching her and suffice to say, after all the hype surrounding her last venture, this was very disappointing. Ji Sung needs a better female lead to shine!
And I agree with many of you that the slow pacing is a dampener. I also wish they didn't do the whole Seoul-Busan trip because it seems a little impractical, what with Ha Neul's school & his detention centre. Just how is he fitting everything into his schedule?
What I do like is Ji Sung & Min Hyuk's interactions so far. With the right direction it can lead to a fun mentor-student relationship for sure!

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Ha-neul and Chan-hee playing together: so cute.
Ha-neul smiles more now that he's a part of this band. If he really quits, he's probably going to be a lot less happy again, like how be was right before meeting Seok-ho again. (Maybe spoiler??) I'm looking forward to seeing Seok-ho trying to figure out the truth behind Ha-neul being convicted (as shown in the preview) and hopefully Kyle & Ha-neul & Yeon-su become closer.

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I always thought Kang Min Hyuk was the strongest actor in CNBLUE. This episode proved my stance. Sorry die-hard Jung Yong Hwa and Lee Jong Hyun fans.

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I totally agree. He puts way more depth and nuance into his characters. The lead CN Blue guy who was in your're beautiful and other dramas is pretty flat actor. Pretty smile but that is about it.

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For those who keep saying boring for umpteen times.. you will find it more boring without watching because that mentality has already embedded in your mind.
Now that people mentioning about proper enunciation/pronunciation, I hope Hyeri will take note of that and learn to practice hard I believe practice makes perfect.. luckily it isn't lisp but still needs to be corrected. I think this storyline isn't that common to be predictable.. I have endured epi 1 n 2 lol .. I think the upcoming episodes will be better than before..

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@Clover AGREE 100% I also have seen it being compared to My Girl, Trot Lovers or Dream High and it is totally different. With so many Kdramas, story may have some similarities but that is to be expected

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@lollypip I will disagree on few of your points.

* SukHo is changing for better. He has quit drinking and old SukHo wouldn't have even thought about giving a shot at "single dad" or "ex convict"

* Hyeri is getting better. Her conversation with SukHo is push-pull and I am for one liking that she is starting to show more chemistry with SukHo.

For those Beanies that are trying to get HaNeul-Green or SukHo-Green shipping, I am glad that writers have not really ventured into that. So please I've it a rest for goodness sakes.

Show is progressing at a nice pace and I don't find any "boring" or "snoozing" moment at all. Of course with Kpop background storyline, few scenes are going to be slightly slow pace.

I am just absolutely loving that SukHo is most venerable when in conversation either with HaNeul or Green. Squshmishly adorable!!!

BTW, I had looked up Seoul-Busan mileage after 1st ep and it is mere 325 Km.

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I actually think Geu-rin(/Green) could end up with pretty much anyone (or no one) at this point, it even seemed like they were setting up some potential between her and Yeon Soo. I find it interesting that there's no clear loveline (as of yet anyway) - usually it's pretty clear even from the first or second ep, but here it could go any which way or just never take off at all.

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Epi 4 shows Green is slowly showing her interest in SSH. Love line is showing but not that obvious yet..

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@kaybee @clover also, SukHo talking with his once trusted underling, it was SukHo's dream to open up a beach restaurant. So wondering how he ended up in Kpop? Maybe due to HaNeul's Hyung? So story is just starting to develop and I am loving it so far. Also, JS is my fav Kactor so....?

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wow cool that you even google it.. lol XD I am glad there are people who did not give up ,thinking that it is another typical drama doing with music.. now I finally know why Jisung and Hyeri decided to act in this drama.
Well, I'll respect those who wouldn't want to watch this drama since one size( drama) doesn't fits (satisfies) all(everyone).

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I'd like to chime in re: family crypt. It probably IS located in Seoul, b/c the family moved out to Busan after big brother's death. I don't remember exactly, but I recall in one of the scenes with Ha-Neul fighting with his parents about singing, it was mentioned they'd moved far away to try and get over big brother's death. It made me pause too, but then I remembered they are essentially a Seoul family living in Busan, not your typical story about the sort of non-Seoul people coming to the big city for the first time.

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Still find this show draggy and hitting the FF button at times or getting distracting while watching. Editing doesn't help – two phone call scenes after another (one with a fakish phone call about the sexual assault, another SH calling to say he'll call later after all – second being a completely useless scene).

–I like Ha-neul and the single Dad&sprout as characters, but overall the characters feel all pretty thin to me. Most of them I cannot get invested yet in at all. Which is partially because of how they are written, partially the acting.

–Hyeri isn't delivering and her character is completely uninteresting. Not sure which direction her love line is going, but not digging that they are setting up Haneul as liking her. He gets asked 'Do you have someone you like?' and next scene is Geu-rin calling him. Ummm. Even if they are most likely not bio-sibs, I'm finding this twist off.

–The whole sexual assault thing is very contrived. Especially since the show insists on giving the girl accusing Haneul an actual (minor) storyline – I'm just not buying into her entertainment career and manipulations, it's not remotely interesting and very fake.

–Sigh with the politics of entertainment. Some of it I can take, but I'm not sure why whenever you get storylines like this it has to be that your rivals want to bully you out of the business for good. Why should Soek-ho quit the business and open a beach restaurant instead? Why do we need "I crush you totally so you are not ever doing anything in this business again"? Isn't it enough to throw him out of KTOP and simply be rivals in the business? Because there is always going to be multiple entertainment agencies, there's always going to be competition and ALL of them have to deal with that. Eliminating SH from that world isn't like magically going to make every band at KTOP successful.

–Not impressed by any of the music so far. Sounds all very generic to me.

Going to watch one more episodes before I decide whether I'll continue or bail...

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Same when it comes to a Hyeri-HaNeul loveline. It would be too klichée and feel weird and it's the only one I don't really want to happen. Any other is fine with me, because as you said, the characters still don't feel so real that you're invested enough to actually care. I think it's gotten better since ep 1 though, so holding onto hope here.

As regards to the politics of entertainment: Oh, but it does happen. And I think in this case it's got to do with pride and fear, more than anything else. Sure they can both be succesful, but SH's old assistant has an ax to grind - he probably wasn't treated very well and was always passed over for promotions. Now he feels he has to prove himself to his old boss (SH) and outdo him, especially since Top Boss is watching. He also knows very well what SH is capable of and willing to do, so there's some insecurity about not being as good and some fear about SH doing better than him or making things difficult for him despite SH's fall from grace. SH's old boss also has a pride-issue with him since SH was going to steal away his biggest boy group (also, that is a tremendous blow to any company, even the big ones). However, I agree with you that the whole rivalry, I-will-crush-you plot is getting a bit old.

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Lee Tae-sun is such a cutie! I love his sunny, smiling character. :)
I tried looking him up, barely found any info on him. Looks like this is his first drama. His agency is Namoo Actors, same as Ji Sung's.

I never really thought about Ha Neul possibly liking Geu Rin..... Ugh, that's weird since she treats him like a brother. I'd rather the show not go in that direction.
But I don't want to see her paired with Suk Ho either.

The scene where Yeon Soo and Chan Hee were repainting the wall made me tear up. Such a sweet moment.

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waw ...I never knew nirvana before but my brother is a metal head and ..he always made me listen to that song , last week after watching ep2 I was talking with my bro and he mentioned this album just by chance XD I mean omg if it was not for him I would be clueless about this song or even the band ...
AND I LOVE THIIIIIS DRAMA ommg ><

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My problem with this drama is that they announce it like it was a romantic comedy between Ji Sung and Hyeri. They just talked about these two characters, but what I see is that Ha Neul a more important character than Geurin's. I know that we are only at episodes 3-4 but I dont see a romantic story coming, its like romance doenst fit on this storyline.
I havent watched episode 3 but by the Recap i saw that they are implying that Ha Neul likes Geun Rin, but common dont do that! Triangle story line (Haneul - Geurin - Sukho) is going to be a pain in the ass and i wont be able to handle it.
Sorry about the english, its not my first language.

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Geu Rin stated that her life purpose is to protect Haneul and be next to him. she didn't need anything else
how awkward will it be for them if Haneul is the one having one sided romantic love and she doesn't feel the same

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Sorry don't really think hyeri is suitable- her teeth and nose too distracting, also she tends to overact
The male actors and storyline still ok

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There are all sorts of faces in this world. I suppose wanting perfection is what has resulted in far too many already attractive Korean actors/actresses having cookie cutter faces. Many of the stars that I was crazy about and LOVED their attractive faces, keep chiseling away and I'm praying "PLEASE STOP NOW! BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Kinda like how we all felt after Michael Jackson's "Off the Wall" album.

So many of them have done away with the very things that I found so attractive or sexy about them in the first place on that quest for the perfectly oval face or "perfect" nose.

All hail Park Shin Hye! (and a few others making it on their original beautiful faces).

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Hyeri's story doesn't really fit. If she's Ha Neul's protector for life, she's should end up with Ha Neul. Makes no sense that in ep 4, you have Ji Sung's face in her's for no real apparent reason. He didn't need to grab her like that to get his point across. Too "forced" for us to believe there could be a ship. Today we're told Chae Jung An is in the typical, I'll be by his side forever, girl for Suk Ho; yet they have no romantic chemistry at all. Maybe this drama will tell us, loyalty to one man doesn't make the boat float?? Ha Ha.. So far I see no romance, just alot of bromances' going on. I'd be perfectly fine without any love lines in this drama. The couples don't match at all.

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I love this show... Guess i am not all that critical if it is entertaining.
I agree it is much more than an let's make a band story and I hope it doesn't decline into just that.
It is built on a misfit band with the misfits being grittier than usual. And the misfit mix of personalities is hilarious and JS facilitating them is hilarious. He nails the role of adult watching the kids interaction with humor. You can see it in his eyes.
Han Neul character is great and the actor playing that is nailing it like you say. I have only seen him in one other drama where he was also great though a less complex character.
The Ji Sook mystery is interesting. I originally thought maybe she was a wannabe singer who got in over her head with a manager-type, and Han Neul rescued her but they bribed her into framing him to save the manager-type. Now I think maybe it is more complicated and they set-up Han Neul because of something to do with his brother. Hmm...

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@Rachel
It's just your own taste your personal opinion , why brings yonghwa down in this? the article not even related to yonghwa or jonghyun!

The fact is Minhyuk can never ever defeat Yonghwa in anything, sorry not sorry ~ Yonghwa acting capability is more better than minhyuk, For sure Yonghwa is the best idol actor among other CN BLUE Members!!!

Plus Yonghwa is Filming Blockbuster High budget, 4D movie, with the Class A list Actors, and actress from china now!!! Even he learn chinese language and learn how to use knife well too, since he play a CHEF in that his first ever movie!! Your Kang Min Hyuk is never ever can Defeat Jung Yong Hwa!!
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Dude.. chill. I think you're taking this too personally. It's just a statement of preference, it's not even hate of any sorts.

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The couple's don't match each others, what is drama whitout any romantic scenesss or even kissseeess

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Kang Min Hyuk never fails to steal my heart. Even though the drama lacks romance (which I thought I wouldn't survive without), the emotional background got me hooked.

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The drama gets slightly better. I will keep on watching, but mostly in order to have the pleasure of commenting with you guys.

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