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First? I just want to say I love Mary!

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I love Mary too. She's the best and coolest.

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Lubbbbb you Mary :-***

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Hello! Came here from Twitter! Yes I love Mary too. I look forward to reading her comments on any comment thread here on Dramabeans.

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I love Mary too! She's the best! Giant hugs for Mary!

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I also love Mary!

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Sorry if I may sound new here...but may I ask who is Mary? Is it the beanie Maryofbethany?

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Mary is just Mary. She's the other half of Song Jae-rim.

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I still don't know who you're talking about haha... um...do you have a link to one of Mary's comments or something on DB?

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Oh wow, had no idea Mary is one of the DB staffs here. Great thanks Chingu! :D

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Hi lana,
You ask who mary is? If you search on the tag Song Jae-Rim, and look in comments section, you will see that everyone is looking for mary. She is the biggest fangirl of Song Jae-Rim and ever so funny.She is also known as, mary, high priestess of the cult of rim. By now she is a legend with the beanies. So much so that JB and GF have mentioned her in their posts and she joined the DB staff not long ago.

If you want to read about the awesomeness that is mary, I looked up two very funny comment sections from last year. And there was an article about SJR this week, which was also very funny. You can have a look at that one too.

http://www.dramabeans.com/2015/01/song-jae-rim-romances-an-unkind-woman/
http://www.dramabeans.com/2015/09/song-jae-rim-added-to-revenge-drama-goodbye-mr-black/

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I love Mary so much

/sacrifices some butts for her

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Mary is the bees' knees and tops in my book. Love ya Mary! ???

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ummm ... who is mary ?

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Haha exactly...I have no idea lol

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Try saying that you love Song Jae Rim. Then you will know who is Mary. You won't have to find her. She'll find you. ?

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Hahahaha! Yes you will!

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Mary is jjang!

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We beanies are bonded by love for Mary? heh

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I guess there's just something about Mary that brings us all closer together :)

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We all love Mary!

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Cookies for all the Mary love! yay!

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More butts for mary! ♥♥♥♥♥♥

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Well duh, everybody loves Mary

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Jo Unnie, *waves* ? Who doesn't love our resident Mrs. SJR? Love ya Mary!

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I love Mary too!!! She's awesome!!! Not just because we have similar names

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Mary needs her own fansite just for fans to profess their love to Mary.

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We're doing pretty well on DB, ha. But mary has her own stuff, kdramalaws.com. My fave is kdrama Bingo. :-)

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Highlight of the Week: Almost everyone were searching for Mary

Love you, dear ❤❤❤

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Love is in the air! We all love mary!

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She is all kinds of awesome <3.

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Thanks to Mary's SJR proselytizing I just watched a few eps of Thumping Spike and it was exactly what I needed. Thanks Mary!!

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I sarang you, friends ♥ ♥ ♥

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Me also pitching in to say "I love thee... Maryyyyy"

From kdramalaws to PotUp to DB you are jjang!

PS:I love all the other wonderful people in DB and PotUp too :)

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I have to agree Mary is great. I'm looking forward to her excitement in August.

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ve love you, mary <3

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hello

I am so mad at my relatives right now. I haven´t gotten a single strawberry this summer. I raise them, then other folks go to Viljandi and pick them when I am away or at work and they keep it all. When I pick something I always share. But they call and say: oh, I gave half the box of strawberries to a friend as a birthday gift, was that alright? NO IT IS NOT! Bastards. And then they complain the ones they bought from the market were bigger and sweeter, can´t I do something about it? Oh, the nerve! I want to kill them. My lazy chain smoking aunt, who never moved a finger in the garden, is the worst. should I just poison them strawberries? Makjang...But I want to poison seletcively, how is that done? I should get advice from a serial killer. Who´s the best man out there? Which method to use? Will they catch on to me? So many things to consider when killing someone

Or I need one of those keep calm and... cards right now. Otherwise, would I get a bald spot like Gong Shim? My life feels like that right now, everyone is just using me and I cannot stop them from going there and pillage. Doesn´t help with the stress that Granny broke a leg and can´t move or go to toilet so dad brought her a toilet chair. That´s why Dear My Friends is on hold for me, too hard to watch when there are real people having problems around me. Granny is talking weird too, like she should break that plaster and her foot shouldnt heal, and how she thinks maybe she doesnt need to eat any more. She sometimes gives me chills and I scold her
sorry for ranting. life is such a drama.

but at least I have friends /colleagues, who are awesome and let me catch the afternoon train instead of staying late for work. Yay!!!!

anyway, been watching Oh Hae Young Again, 38 task force and MotW
OHYA is not as entertaining as it could be, and it misses its chances here and there for more depth about some things. Like, why has Soo Kyung been turned from a tough girl into a "marriage or doom"-kind of woman? they should have gone all the way. That they chicken out of making precedents feels so hopeless...
I keep watching because I just wanted to see if they reach any kind of resolve cause it would have kept bugging me. I can accept whatever ending they give me, cause I am not that invested in the characters or even the romance. I just can´t stand the kind of loose ends where you can see it happens cause they dont know how to tie them rather than on purpose.

38 task force is like a spider web which starts from such thin threads you can´t imagine how flies can be caught with it, and then it grows circle by circle. there is a lot of mystery at this point, and while that´s usually a good thing, I am not sure whether it is the calculated kind of mystery or just careless in this case. hopefully calculated but I like the dramas boldness to point out privileged peoples´ attitudes and behavior.

MotW is still very confusing to me, those mechanisms behind the curses seem a...

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MotW is still very confusing to me, those mechanisms behind the curses seem a bit too complicated. I lose track all the time just what happens why. but her activated mode hair is so pretty, can´t it stay like that? Like Sophie in Howl´s Moving Castle...

mm, question for you... are there any loose ends from dramas that kept bugging you to no end, that you have perhaps been trying ti tie in your mind repeatedly?

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@redfox, I'm curious...I keep seeing mentions of Howl's Moving Castle everytime MotW is mentioned. What drama is that and how it is related to each other? As in similar plotlines or is MotW and an inspired adaption of Howl's Moving Castle?

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I've not watched MotW, but Howl's Moving Castle is a Japanese anime directed by Hayao Miyazaki, same director as other well known anime like Spirited Away, Tonari no Totoro, etc.

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I think witchcraft / magic, gray hair, transformations and curses that affect the body physically, maybe those things seem similar. otherwise the story is completely different.... but yeah, the general feel of it is also very similar to a fantasy anime somehow, I suppose

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Hey Superfox ~

I was sure that if anyone could follow MotW it was you, but even you think it's confusing. There are just too many step-royalty running around with big, big black magic issues that it's a fairy tale mash-up greater than any Grimm Brothers' character dilemma. But Yoon Shi Yoon, I watch it for him and am hoping for a glimpse of that amazing tiger again~

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yeah, even though I am trying my damnedest. But it is as confusing as Britain voting to leave the EU. Still it is so prettily shot that I kind of don´t care. Maybe turn of the subs and sound, put on a song and enjoy it as a very long music video?

oh, and it is like a fairy tale and fairy tales are sometimes nonsensical, unlinear and fragmented.

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I find I'm having to rely on the recaps to follow some things, especially all the magic signs appearing on their bodies!

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Hi Redfox! I'd like to offer you a virtual hug ? for your awful sounding week. It's the weekend! Hope it gets better. Virtual ??? for you too, and hang in there with your grandma, it's very tough when old people break a leg, but I hope she recovers fast and stays healthy!

I like your spider web analogy for Task force 38. Very apt and well said!
And sorry for splitting up your comments!

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Ignore the last part. Thought my comment interrupted your comment.

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thank you ! *om nom nom*
well when I go to pick blackberries I won´t give them any! HAA!

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calm down Redfox, you secured one more ticket for Heaven. :) There is always bright side to things.

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And about loose ends from dramas, I have watched too many dramas over the years, so that does not bother me, I just move on. Talking about bothering part, I was bothered watching the scene KRW and PSH eating ice cream together in their school in 'Doctors' (WTH with the title?)

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I was WTF at the title "Doctors" too until I saw that Dramafever called it "Doctor Crush" and thought "You know what, Doctors is not such a bad title after all"...

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Thanks for sharing us your story, I believe the strawberry you planted taste sweeter and sincere ^^
And I hope you'll find closure for your problem and sharing is already a step forward imo

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Hi Redfox, good to see that your post is back in full force, you're always so remarkably candid about things, making your post a good read!

Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, fruits of summer which I like, can't wait for the wet and cold winter to be over here..

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Ggggrrrrrrr, how could they took away your strawberry? I'll offer you mango if you're nearby, dear redfox, to console you.. *hugs*

As the best and the most charismatic serial killer, hmmm... Lee Joon Young/Lee Joon Ho and Jung Sun Ho come to mind first. I could come with you to meet them if you need company and support.. Lemme know.. ^^

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I love mangoes! Thanks!

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I will meet the serial killers on my own, now that I have a mango and not afraid to use it. all fear me and despair.

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...that's the spirit! ^^

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Your strawberry story makes me so mad. :< I hate inconsiderate relatives.

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maybe I should turn it into a SECRET garden.
bhahahaaaaa

lame pun inserted, I am off to check the damage. I´ll report on the number of casualties and stuff. Bye-bye!

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So sorry to hear about your greedy and inconsiderate relatives, redfox! I can't believe they had the cheek to take all your stravberries and then tell you that the ones you grov are not like the supermarket ones. Jerks! (and if you vere nearby I vould send some lychees over - they look almost like stravberries from a distance but the texture of their flesh is closer to grape)

(apologies for my veird spelling, my keyboard is refusing to type out 'a' and the letter after v so it ends up becoming a v instead)

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I thought you were Vampiring.

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We love you and your act-up keyboard, Pogo... no need to apologize. ^^

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Hihi it crossed my mind that maybe you can type 2 Vs to make it looks like W. Temporary solution...
Anyway, we still can understand ur comment clearly.;-)

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taht spelling is almost like estonian.

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I do know how to make the thorns of a live rose bush poisonous. (daughter wanted a book of poisons-since I want to live I said no - but we did skim it)

I would just tell them there sour and bake them in a pie for myself.

Loved Howl's Moving Castle! I like most of her books.

MoTW is half about magic and the rest is lies mixed with truth which tests trust.

Does a cliffhanger for the last Vampire Prosecuter count? Ugh!

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Oooh Diana Wynne Jones fan! :D *waves* I remember getting Howl's Moving Castle as a gift and saving up for months just to buy another DWJ book. Every time I mention HMC, it's usually the movie that folks are familiar with. I liked the book better and found the JP movie so disappointing because it was so different from the book. But I'm glad I gave his other movies a try because Miyazaki is magic.

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I know right? Howl was so different in the movie. Like a too cool to emote drama hero instead of the charming, mysterious boy with issues whom I loved in the book. And what the hell was that half crow transformation? Just...why? But most people really like the movie so I keep my bitterness hidden.

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I liked Castle in the Air (the same people as Howl's Moving Castle--kind of. I'm not going to post a spoiler. But I recommend the book.) And all the Crestimanci (sp?) stories are super.
Miazaki is excellent, but don't think you're going to know what the book is about AT ALL after watching the animation.

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I think both had their charm, the book was a bit more serious, while the anime, I think, was aiming for, um, some irony in the humor department. I did cringe at some bits of the anime, but I loved the moments of irony. there is a bit of irony in MotW as well, sort of what goes around comes around and a boomerang will some day hit you. there is this boomerang flying and we are yet to see all who fall.

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*sends cyberhug to redfox*

Try siccing Master of Noodle on your no-good, strawberry-swiping kin... but cover your tracks well! Otherwise we'll have to send Jin Sang to bail you out of the hoosegow. ;-)

Sorry to hear of Granny's broken leg. My family has had similar experiences. Is it possible to get her outdoors in the sunshine and fresh air? It might help perk her up. The poor dear sounds depressed... If her physician, hopefully a gerontologist, doesn't know about it, s/he should. (My Mom became delirious because of an undetected urinary tract infection. Once the underlying infection was treated, her mind cleared up, too.) It is heartbreaking to witness elders enduring such experiences. Thanks to you, she is not going through it alone. ;-)

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thanks all! I was off to Viljandi to see what I can save. there were still strawberries but since there have been heavy rains and then an unbelievable heat they were pretty much all fermented. still, I picked whatever I could and had some to eat ( and I don´t mind any quality or shape or size as long as they are MY strawberries!) and to bring home.
maybe it is a good thing that those relatives picked them. at least they didnt rot. bUt they still could have told me. let´s not fret over things that pass, like Do Kyung. I have hands that can get rough from work and feet that can hurt. I can see the flowers, I can hear the birds...

but the weather was seriously... 33C in the shadow, which to many of you is not much, but add record humidity and physical work under hot sun. then we get back to Tallinn with the sea winds and stuff and Dad says it was pretty warm... commence evil laughter. so no wonder everything was ripe at the same time

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Thanks to Carole, Voice and Am for recommending Japanese movie Orange in last week’s OT. In return, I'm sharing three versions of Orange's original ost Mirai (Future) which I found on Japanese Youtube. This song sung by Kobukuro is so beautifully emotive, listening to it could easily evoke both fond and sad memories, and remind us of people from our past whom we missed.

The first one is manga "romance" version from the perspective of Naho, the colored full screen manga drawings at the end of the video are really beautiful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4rg15tsWHs

The second one is manga "bromance" version from the perspective of Suwa, Naho’s future husband. The tears that Suwa (light-haired guy) shed while concealing his own feelings for Naho in order to bring Kakeru (black-haired guy) and Naho together is so touching, this is what we don't get to see in the movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCDrUhPgoU

The third one is the movie version, it is quite interesting to compare the manga versions and movie version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwhkIfS8b6E

I had been through a similar experience as Kakeru, it had been so hard for an adult to handle the grief and self-reproach, what’s there to say for a 17 year old teenager. In retrospect, there were things I desperately wanted to handle differently no matter what it takes if I could go back in time, but regrets can only remain as regrets.

There are lots of movies/dramas with this theme, if only we knew that certain actions of ours would lead to regrettable outcomes, we would definitely want to act differently if given a second chance, Orange, Proposal Daisakusen, and even Oh Hae Young Again all shared this same theme.

In Beautiful Gong Shim, I do not quite understand why Dan Tae rejected GS, he could have kept her by his side while he unravels his life's mystery. But still, kudos to the producers for having GS declared her strong resolve to continue to love DT to her heart’s desire, at least, I don't want to see GS's friendship with Yoon Soo being misunderstood and used to fuel DT's jealously, which is a typical kdrama trope.

Probably a new trend is emerging in kdramas, gender roles are being switched, the girls are getting very courageous and forward in expressing their love, as in BGS. And also in OHYA, Hae Young always said to Do Kyung she is an easy woman who is too eager to please him and always comes running at his beck and call.

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Dan Tae´s change and rejection were so not in accordance with the character. if they had to make him change, why change so drastically. it is not that easy to just flip a person inside out no matter what the circumstances. It aint realistic. the change is too drastical

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That's right, DT' was flipped inside out, I don't quite like it, it defies logic. I just saw BGS preview for tonight's ep, there is a scene with DT witnessing Yoon Soo leaning on GS's shoulder, so DT is getting jealous in this way after all, as in so many kdramas, what a let down. For once, the quirkiness of DT & GS made me think that BGS would be a refreshingly different rom-com, but here we see the same trope again. urgh!

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It was only a preview, so maybe we shouldn't get into conclusions until the episode airs. There is a sneakpeak for episode 13 posted on soompi if you guys want to check it out- and I think you'd like what you see of the development!

I agree that the change is abrupt, but the difference is that he realizes now that they feelings are mutual. The realization hit him at once that it's different now that his one-sided love turns serious, and I think in this state he couldn't handle the relationship. He didn't say "I don't like you," but , "Things have changed now and I can't return your feelings." Maybe there's truth in those words only he know.

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GS told DT in her drunken state that he is broke, messy and cheesy, but despite of all these she still likes him, so couldn't he tell that GS is not expecting much from him, she just wants to be by his side to support him. Since he likes her too, he should also consider how his rejection is hurting her and making her feel uncomfortable in his presence.

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@Pebble,

Thanks to your links, I just finished watching the movie version of ORANGE. I really enjoyed it. And yes, the OST is beautiful.

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Hi @PakalanaPikake, glad that you like this movie. I never get tired of watching high school movies, the appeal of innocent friendships and romance transcends age.

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Happy Friday Beanies! I had a very productive drama watching week. Saw BGS, Police unit 38 (excited for the coming episodes!), started Doctors (Kim Rae Won Oppa ❤️) and Beautiful Mind.
Is anyone else watching 99.9 Keiji Senmon Bengoshi?
I'm hooked and really enjoying this jap drama which is surprisingly funny and offbeat. Loving the quirky characters and am waiting for subs for the last epi.

Also, any Nam Goong Min fans can enlighten me what happened to the show he directed? I know it's complete but what happened to it? I'm fangirling him at the moment and have BGS OST on when I travel on the train.

And finally, and are there any shows with good gal pals/womance? (I don't like the term womance tho...) Esp those still in school, like School 2013 but girl-centric. After watching Doctors I'm reminiscing my school days with my girlfriends and the crazy stuff we used to do.

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please use the term "j-drama".

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Thank you

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Should we explain why too? I find it is easier to remember if I understand the background.

In case you want to know: jap is a racial slur. It became derogatory during WWll. Considering what the Japanese went through with internment camps and relocation, the term brings up bad memories and current racial discrimination.

So while saying jap seems no different than using the short version of Thai, Kor, and more, it very much is. The preferred terms are "j-dramas" or "dorama" (how they say it in Japan, correct? Like Thai - lakorn?)

Also this site is depressing because of all the negative history but pretty eye opening - http://www.rsdb.org/full

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Thank you Owl for explaining! I really really appreciate it. I honestly did not know that I was being rude, and I will be certain to take note from now on.

Sorry to Spazmo, Kreyon and anyone else I have offended, it really was unintentional. I sincerely apologize and I promise not to do it again. I wasn't ignoring your comments, I just didn't really know where you were coming from so I didn't know how to reply.

Recently I have unfortunately seemed to have upset others as well with some of my choice of words, and I do appreciate it when you Beanies try to explain why I'm being corrected so that I may understand, and I don't feel like I'm being misunderstood to be a jerk when really I'm not trying to upset anyone. I just want to share my thoughts, squee over Oppa and chat with fellow drama lovers, and maybe make some new friends?
Have a good week everyone.

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Aww Michykdrama, don't worry too much about it. :D

They were just trying to teach you stuff. It's great that you learn it from DB than elsewhere cos beanies will understand that and try to teach you, while in other places, the internet is toxic. :( (Also thanks spazmo and Kreyon and Purple Owl for your level-headedness!)

I've made a couple of mistakes myself when I was new here. Still make a couple now, but beanies are chill about spreading cultural awareness. Besides, it's better to say a taboo word by mistake than be someone who uses nice words to say nasty things.

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Thanks Mary. ❤️

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Oh! Mary is in a convo thread with me!

Sorry, beanie milestone here. Fangirled a little.

DB is the best place on the Internet to learn. Other communities don't try as hard to be understanding ? (I'm a kpop multi-fandom so...)

I really like what you said about "taboo word by mistake vs. nice words to say nasty things." Great insight!

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Ark I meant Purple Owl. Sorry about that Purple Owl!
I had just woken up, was still half asleep when I opened Dramabeans and got a horrible shock that I somehow managed to insult a whole country of people.
But I do really appreciate you explaining things to me. Thank you! Hope you have a great weekend ?

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No problem, love. I accidentally read ahead and saw spazmo's reply before your original post. So I knew what to look for. I've always been wary of the term (might be from being raised in Cali and vaguely knowing) but I only learned the details when I started watching anime. And this year, awareness has been increasing.

I'm glad I could help. I did a bit of research to phrase my comment and came upon that website. I'll be studying it for the next week, lol. So thank you as well.

If you ever want to connect I live on social media ?
I have 3 public IG: cause.i.am_superwoman (girl/person power)
Chanyeolseemysoul (k-ent, mainly kpop fan account)
The.officialpurpleowl (writing account)
G+: Purple Owl
Pinterest: Purple Owl @cojabrown
Twitter: theofficialpurpleowl @theofficialpo
We Heart It: Chanyeolseeme
Mydramalist: Purple Owl

Wow! When written down I see why my family says I'm always using tech, kekeke.

I don't mind "Owl". It's cute. I almost want to use it but as you can see Purple Owl is kinda a brand at this point.

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Warning: language and triggers in that database

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I am trying to think of dramas that are young women friendship centric, while I do that may I recommend some of my 2 favourite female centric coming-of-age films?

Sunny (korean) about a group of friends (all girls) who try to get together again after having parted ways after high school.
80s feels

Now and Then (american) about a group of friends (all girls) growing up in the suburbs in the 1970s

The dramas Ex-Girlfriend Club and One More Happy Ending have great friendships betweem women but it is not set in high school.

The lakorn series Hormones also have some good female friendship in high school (probably the closest one to School 2013) although the female friendships are not always the focus.

Unfortunately, women centric coming-of-age films that focus on friendship and that are not completely depressing seem to be a rare thing (yet we have so many Stand By Me type films and dramas). I absolutely love them too so if anyone has more recommendations ^^

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Thanks for the recs! Yes I totally agree there are too few female centric shows in general, esp those that don't have romance as the main focus. Why are women usually portrayed as bitchy and fighting over some guy?
My fondest memories are from my school days with my girlfriends in our all girl school. Need a drama like that!

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I Need Romance 1-3 and Woman Who Wants To Marry have groups of ladies who are bestfriends as main characters. But I haven't seen any of them so not sure if they're a fun watch.

WWWTM has good reviews from friends though so I guess you can start with that if you want. :D

There was also a jtbc drama, Seonam Girls High School Investigators. But I also didn't watch it so I can't tell if you'll like it. *hangs head shamefully*

Protect The Boss is not female-centric but does have awesome women friendships and frenemy dynamic.

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Thanks Mary!
I will check them out and feedback how they are. Seonam girls High school investigators also sounds awesome, brings me back to my Nancy Drew, Famous Five reading days.

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Matsu Jun is 99.9, nice!!!
For sistership in Kdrama, I can only think of she was pretty and the woman who can't get married (I don't think this is the title but it's the one with kim bum)

For Cdrama, Ode to Joy
Fot Jdrama, many drama tackle that but not as the main as I remember but dear sister is quite good

I am on mobile, will get back after I come to my PC

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Omg Yes I am dying for the last epi! Opened my eyes to a whole new world of Jdramas. Now I wish I understood Japanese ?

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It also wins in rating as 18 % in ep 8, this is really good for Jdrama and leading this weekly rating.
I think they'll get an SP at least if not S2 or movie but it's nice to see nice drama get much appreciation...
Matsujun did really good this time

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yeah I don't like the term 'vomance' either.

The best connection betveen 2 vomen I've ever seen in a kdrama, is probably the female lead and second lead in I Hear Your Voice - they vere bitter rivals but it vas all about THEM, not any rivalry over a guy, and they had mutual, if grudging, respect for each other.

Sassy Go Go also handled its girls really vell - they vere total enemies and hated each other but again, their grudge vas betveen them and not to do vith any boy.

and if you are open to movies, you should definitely try Kamikaze Girls. It's about the reluctant friendship betveen a Yanki and a Lolita, and it is amazing. But it's sad there aren't that many dramas or movies in any country that are actually about female friendship.

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Definitely open to movies, thanks Pogo! Will check out Kamikaze girls.
Yes, I'm very sad bromance seems to be more in vogue than sisterhood! And I've decided I shall use sisterhood or gal pals instead of womance. Sounds better to me.

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oooh, I just got a drama suggestion vhich has the girls as bffs - Can Ve Get Married (2012). It's a great drama and the female lead/second lead are really close friends.

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Woman caper movie- Girl Scouts.

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99.9 is great! Must admit that I picked it up because of M. Jun, hehe... but I recommend it!

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Yay for fellow 99.9 lovers!! Any other Jdramas with similar vibe/story you would recommend?

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with OHYA ending soon ( sad tears TToTT) i watched lucky romance and my heart got stolen by Ryu Jun Yeol ❤ Oh! Boy ! waee so charming and cute waeee ?? ❤

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he's just so....unf

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Anyone heard of the good news. Park Bo Young accepted her role, she'll be returning to dramaland!!!! I'm so excited for her new role :)

Park Bo Young To Make Transformation With JTBC Drama

Park Bo Young will be making a drama comeback!

On June 24, a representative from Park Bo Young’s agency spoke with news outlets and revealed that the actress has been confirmed for JTBC’s upcoming Friday-Saturday drama “Strong Woman Do Bong Soon” (working title).

The representative explained that filming will start in October. Prior to this, Park Bo Young will be learning martial arts to prepare for her role.

“Strong Woman Do Bong Soon” is being planned to air in January 2017. Park Bo Young will be playing the titular role of Do Bong Soon. She will be making a comeback in a year since tvN’s “Oh My Ghostess.”

The drama will be written by Baek Mi Kyung who previously wrote “My Love Eun Dong” and directed by Lee Hyung Min of “Ms. Temper and Nam Jung Gi.”

Park Bo Young is expected to make a transformation from her usual cute and lovely image with her role in this new drama.

Source http://www.soompi.com/2016/06/24/park-bo-young-make-transformation-jtbc-drama/

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On other news, I've finished watching Entertainer. Despite what people say I actually really love it! It's one of the most warmest dramas I've ever watch. It's so positive and heartwarming. I'm glad there isn't much Romance in the end. Personally I loved this drama :)

Mirror of the Witch is the only other drama I'm hooked on. Oh my god...this drama is very addictive and so good. Words can't describe!

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Entertainer just took so long to get off the ground. I lost interest. i'll get back to it now that it's over.

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I think Entertainer for me is all about character development and the importance of having good people around you who'd believe in you no matter what. It's all about the importance of friendship and family and the support they give each other. That is happiness and success. Once does not need fame to be happy or feel successful. I love the home messages this drama gave. Hope you enjoy it in the end as much as I appreciated this drama :)

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I agree! I thought it was different and I really liked it.

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I loved Entertainer too! I loved their little mismatch family! It was warm and loving with some issues here and there but the ending was just right in my book.

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Always a treat to watch her. I hope her movie career will pick up after this drama. She should have taken the lead role with Ha Jung Woo in With God.

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I loved her in all her movie roles too. But after she did Oh My Ghost, I really wanted her to have more drama roles too so I could see her more on my screen! That's how much I love Park Bo Young, she's such a talented actress :D

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yes, more women + martial arts!

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I finally gave in and watched Reply1988. I read a lot of comments on how it is the best Kdrama of recent times but i found it a little laggy at times. I liked that they included the parents but even with the extended time, it seemed like there was too much of the parents and too little of the kids.

I think they spent like 30 mins on the kids and 1 hour on the parents when it should have been the other way around. So you ended up with having these bunch of extremely close friends who are strangely missing when something huge is happening in one of their's life - Taek's father's heart attack, JH's brother's surgery, DS's grandmom's death - friends all absent. So it became a case of the show telling me they are close, but i'm not really seeing it onscreen.

ofcourse when they are together (taek's loss), they are amazing and heart warming

I ended up dropping it after episode 10. Honestly though, the fact that i knew who the husband was (and that i was still rooting for the other one) probably played a part in it

PS - I watched JH's confession scene on youtube and ended up crying. I watched it for the second time and then cried fresh. Rewatched it and then cried again. At this point i finally gave up and promised not to touch anything related to R88 lest i slip into depression.

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I feel you.

I love PBG from IRY days so I keep trying to continue. Dropped it after 2 episodes, watched some more on the plane (SQ - in case anyone is wondering) and I still cannot feel it. Ended up reading the recaps when my flight ends just to know how did Hyeri ended up choosing PBG.

I still think R88 snubbed Dramabeans best drama award from Healer :p (because this award is more important than any other awards in real life!)

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Haha I think that too but by that time R88 hadn't ended and the whole husband reveal which disappointed some people hadn't happened. Maybe after knowing the end DB would have wanted to give the award back to Healer.

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For me, I feel it repetitive and no longer working is the maximum effect to me.
I loved 1997 and still adore it especially the length,
Got into the mud with with baseball bat in 1994,
But 1988 feels like something I've seen but longer, it just I can't really thinking it that much, in fact I dropped it and just watching it casually

Then tbh I knew from ep 3/4 that it was the tomorrow cantabile that gonna sing at the end.

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I admit Reply1988 a little laggy at times (I blame that airtime is too long and has too many episodes). It needs patience to watch the show. Still I love the show and plan to watch again. And you know on JH's confession scene, Hye-ri cried so much, that she was removed and her scene was filmed later separately.

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Really she cried ?

I don't know why that scene hit me so hard. The dialogues were normal, they were not like iconic .. but the whole scene and how RJY delivers it makes me cry. Every. Single. Time.

Fabulous piece of acting.

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I cried for a week after that scene.

It didn't just hit me hard. It drop kicked me into a flaming volcano.

RJY's delivery was absolute perfection.
I still hear his "Ya Deoksun-ah" in my head.

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Yes RJY shared during many interviews that during that scene, Hye-ri was crying very hard behind the scenes because she felt JH's pain as he said farewell to his love, and it was just a very hard scene to shoot overall.

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Thank god, i wasn't the only one ... i did not find a single negative review of it online. Even people who did not like it were the ones that did not like the ending and not the show as a whole

R1997 remains my favourite.

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R1997 5eva

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R88 over Healer any day.
just because some people made themselves ship a guy who couldnt obviously win for never speaking up, doesnt mean the drama is bad.

I think if you concentrate on the quality of acting instead of the mere who ends up with who, the ensemble in this was more on the same wavelength than the previous Reply series

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I love R88 such a heart warming show. I didn't get why people got so angry over who ended as the husband. It was never about that, the moms stole the show for me made me think about the tough things woman go through and how good friends can help you in tought times.

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I liked 1988, it lagged in places but it vas still better than 1994, even if it couldn't quite live up to 1997. I thought the heart of the drama vas in the vay they actually made Ssangmudong and its families feel like a community - I could live vith the romance but vhat gutted me hardest (seriously, I cried every time I thought of it for a veek) vas the sight of the empty alley after the families had moved avay. (I kind of feel teary even novv just thinking of that final scene vith Deok-sun going back and finding everyone's younger versions in Taek's room).

oh and I sav your comment about The Burning Sky....I think it may have been that same book though the heroine never vent to any vedding there. I should have varned you that the first tvo chapters are quite dry, if you vant to give it a try, then things get interesting only after they reach the school - the setting somehov clicks.

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Thank you. I'll give the burning sky another shot since you recommend it so highly :) ... maybe second time is the charm!

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yeah, some books just take a couple of chapters to really kick in. I nearly gave up on Harry Potter because the first chapter did not make sense at all (my thoughts being 'vhat are these Dursleys, if the book is named Harry Potter then vhere is Harry Potter?') but it vas only the last paragraph of the first chapter that stopped me from giving up then and there.

And even then, it vas slo going until he reached Hogvarts.

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I liked it a lot, but not in the same way as I liked the other Reply shows. Part of it was that I'm the same age as the parents in the show - just seeing the transitions they went through as they were aging, and their feelings as the kids were growing up and moving on with their lives... those things really got to me.

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i loved 1988, but i admit that it took me a few weeks to get into it. i was so busy with moving when the show first started that, while i downloaded all the episodes, i mostly skimmed due to time constraint, exhaustion, and general inability to settle down and focus on kdramas. i don't think it was till the third or fourth week (so basically a month) that i finally had the leisure of mind to get into it... and then of course, i had to go back and re-watch all the episodes. and THEN i loved it.

a lot of people adore the reply series (myself included), but i honestly don't think it's necessarily for everyone. some people find it dull, which i consider to be a valid complaint. depending on where you're coming from, that is. i mean, if you aren't native korean (or familiar with the culture, language, songs, etc.) i can see how it would difficult to get into. there are the common themes of love and friendship, but that's not enough to appeal to absolutely everybody.

i've always found it amazing and fascinating how so many non-koreans can enjoy korean dramas, when they have to watch it via subs. personally i find it difficult to enjoy a movie or tv show that's not created in a language i already understand. i always find myself wondering whether those subs are accurate/well interpreted (having seen some horrible subs on kdramas in my time, but no idea how to create or edit them). i make an exception for miyazaki's gorgeous animations, but i only truly enjoy the japanese versions now after i've watched the english-dubbed versions to death.

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Btw, so many new shows started this week, what are you all watching ?

Squad 38- squee! I want to be a con artist in another life

Doctors - Nice but i'm getting a DOTS vibe (not the good one) where everything looks good onscreen but i end up giving up on it

A beautiful mind - *Chills* I don't want to wait another week. b/w the 2 medical dramas i definitely prefer this one

Wanted - not watched it yet

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Watching all of those. Wanted is looking better than I expected so far, Doctors not quite grabbing me - I like the premise (a sucker for "redeemed" type shows), but not totally grabbing me so far.

But all are worth watching, at least so far. Last season I was almost dormant, only a couple of shows that I followed at all.

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I just watched the first 2 episodes of Squad 38 and I LIKE IT!
(What an exciting car chase--and I don't like car chases usually.)
Good background. Good action! I care about the characters (well, the sympathetic ones. I want the bad guys to be swindled.)
Please show, don't go all great first episodes and then the writer takes crazy pills around the fifth one.

No amnesia, noble love, and I could do without wrist grabbing.

Please. I'm hoping this stays good.

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Happy weekend
I watch Abnormal Summit ep 101 -102 right before they changed all the cast again, except Guillaume and Alberto. There's one particular question about what they feel need to change in South Korea's society.
Among others, there's some answer that intrigued me,
- Korean don't talk to someone like an adult even when they already coming of age, people in 20-s is still referred as aegi (baby) and being older is more preferred (mostly) as the right opinion.
- how they liked a song because other people like it and it ranks high on the chart
- how everyone is abnormally have a lover , like almost no one is single and you get questioned on why you are single at the moment, people who just broke up can have someone immediately even just as some (the some-tada like soyou's song)

and all of this point is also my complaint in Kdrama, what a coincidence.

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Hi, Sancheezy, may I ask where you are watching the episodes? I haven't been able to watch anything past episode 35 or so.

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Sometimes I watch it raw but some random episode after 35 available in kshowonline, like ep 52, ep 101 and others since some fandom also subbed when their favorite come.

There're also some sub in youtube/dailymotion if you want to search by country delegation.

I hope the show will get sub now because they start a new format and the new guy is really funny, esp the India reps (but this is from raw watching review, not 100% on board with what they said)

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Thanks for the reply :). I was watching the show on kshowonline, but as you pointed out, not every episode is uploaded (and with subs). What are some of the countries being represented in the new line up (in addition to India)?

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this is the new line up
India Abhishek Gupta (Lucky)
United States Mark Tetto
France Aurélien Loubert
Canada Guillaume Patry
Italy Alberto Mondi
China Mao Yifeng
Pakistan Zahid Hussain
Switzerland Alex Mazzucchelli
Germany Niklas Klabunde (Nik)

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I couldn't reply directly under your most recent post, so I'll just respond under mine. Thanks for the list :)!

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Dramanice as well as dramacool are subbed til episode 102.

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Thanks for the info :)!

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Happy Friday! How do you like new batch of dramas? I am just happy -now we have three serious?(and beautifully filmed) dramas - Beautiful mind, God of Noodles, Wanted. (What ratings?)
How did you like 'Wanted'? I felt like I was watching a movie. Here is what's said in their production press conference. [Sports Seoul, The Fact, Xsports News, OSEN]

EP Park Young-soo said this drama was different. "I think it will be the most realistic chase thriller among Korean dramas. It is different from other dramas in that it will create fear using the realistic events which you can encounter in your daily life, not some supernatural happenings."

Kim Ah-joong said she accepted the project because of the letter written at the end of the scenario by the writer. It said as a person who works in media area, he wondered if it is time to think hard how far current reality show will go. Kim said "I thought the writer was not just thinking about fun watch in genre-wise, his message was clear as to what story he wants to convey."

About watching point, she said "If the viewers watch the drama focusing on how the show plays reality out, how the viewers in the drama respond, and what mission the criminal demands, rather than trying to find the criminal, then show will be more interesting to watch.
About the plot doing a live reality show for an actress to find her son, Kim Ah-joong said "You know in reality you can't get a live broadcast to find her son because an actress's son is kidnapped, but I think it is an instrument to maximize the situation. We all feel real variety show is progressing toward to make it more strong and exciting, so I try to play the role thinking it is not flat out lie and understanding the situation."

She took on the first mother role since she debuted. "I wasn't sure I was the right fit for this role. I will just do my best. Jung Hae-in is the character who fell in despair because she lost her child, but she is not a person appealing to the viewers. This is the drama you don't watch being immersed in one character, but watch how all the characters behave and react as the third person's point of view. I think what is important is how we can process this event with rhythm, staying in the center of the event. The focal point is not how well Kim Ah-joong can play the motherly love in This drama." About her action scenes, she said "Since I play the mother who lost her child, there are scenes looking for her child while not caring about her body. It is not the action shown in big action movies, but there are desperate real realistic action scenes. I got beaten a lot and fell a lot. I have black and blue on my legs and where not shown. I showed director-nim to mean I was working this hard, but there was no particular response."

About Kim, EP Park said "I found that Kim Ah-joong ssi got tons of bruises on the set. Watching her digesting action scenes herself not using double, I believed she could express the...

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I believed she could express the image of a mother who lost her child with her hardest."

Um Tae-woong(Resurrection) trusts KAJ. "I joined because I liked synopsis more than its genre. I am in because of good story. Also there is Kim Ah-joong who is queen of this genre (KAJ did Sign(2011) which got 25.5% ratings and Punch(2015) which got 14.8% and good review). I heard Kim Ah-joong got bruises so much filming on the set. I heard she did without using double. I think she grasped the mother role who lost her child perfectly. So please look forward to the show."

About variety PD Sin Dong-wook character he plays he said, "He is the person who works only to make fun program regardless of methods used. When I checked the synopsis first, I thought it did not make sense but as I read the story, it was so fun that I thought that(event) might be possible. If a parent lose their child, there is nothing they cannot do. So I could understand the situation, and I think the viewers will think that way too. Story is creative."

Ji Hyun-woo (Queen IH's man) said he's never done this genre. "It is first time for me to do this kind of genre. I think I am still at the age to experience various things and I am lacking in many areas. I am working hard to learn from the actors who are familar with this genre. I visit the police station to conduct the interviews and watch related shows to prepare to play my role well. Once I passed 30, I don't get offers for melo projects any more. The last three projects that I've taken are same way. That is not because I wanted, but because they were the ones offered to me. I think I should accept and it is important to face head-on and feel and learn for challenging something different."

Later in other TV show, UTW and JHW said they'd not thought about ratings promise and hesitated to answer. Kim Ah-joong said "if Ji Hyun-woo ssi sings, I will dance to his singing."
Wanted fighting!

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Other stuff:
Sad about Kim Sung-min who tried to kill himself. Do you remember him -He was great as YongGolDae, Qing general in Three Musketeers?

What's with all these bad news lately -Kim Min-hee(Love and Marriage, 2008) scandal after Park Yoo-chun stuff.

I watched Radio Star (latest ep 483) to get Music Commander(of 'King of Mask Singer') fix.
Ha Hyun-woo(=MC) seemed to have enough hardships in his life (including the time he performed in front of only chairs as audience).
He lives with his parents. I was glad to hear that because I read he was kicked out of his home after he quit college to pursue the music. Then again people teased him- what Rocker lives with his parents? (me:and a man in his mid 30's?)
His face belongs to 'Frog' team (on top of it is Park Hae-jin(CITT). heh)-
To me he looks like MC Yoo Jae-suk (cuter version), and remind of NamGoong Min when he talks. He is talkative, witty, weird? interesting.

and how amazing was it -his jaw was dislocated during his singing 'Don't worry'(ep 46 of KoMS, 2nd win) but kept singing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3CrB2I8m0Y

HHW's Mona Liza (when he was in 'I am singer') in youtube
/watch?v=x98m3GwFTXY

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That is such a horrible thing to happen. Your choices lead you down so many paths and sometimes there is no looking back.

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