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Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: Episode 14

There’s loads of development when it comes to our two lovebirds this hour, even if it comes wrapped in bittersweet packaging. It’s great to have two people who know how to be honest with each other, though there’s the inevitable trial and error as they face issues that can’t be easily ignored. And while Su may have found more of a place in a world that’s growing less and less new to her by the year, that same world always seems to want her dead. Good times in Goryeo.

 
EPISODE 14 RECAP

It’s the year 945, the second year of King Hyejong’s (formerly Crown Prince Mu’s) reign, and two years after the events of the last episode. Su is now sanggung, the highest attainable rank for a court lady, and rules over Damiwon like Court Lady Oh once did.

She’s also turned much more serious according to her rank, and writes down notes about the king’s somewhat ailing health in Hangul, which wasn’t an invention of that time. Chae-ryung, now a court lady as well, cheerily gives Su a pouch she can use on her injured knee. It’s Su’s birthday after all, though Su says the best gift is having Chae-ryung in Damiwon with her.

Chae-ryung said she was only freed from her servitude to Wook’s household on Su’s behalf, which causes Su to lose the small smile she had.

Thirteenth prince Baek-ah gives Su scented oil from Bulgaria, much to So’s ire. He apparently brought nothing back for Su from whatever journey they were on, which he claims is how it should be—the gift of his return should be enough for a court lady.

Later that night, Su hears the sound of a very ill dog howling, but it turns out to be So. Hah, he claims he made sure to not make the sound too realistic so she wouldn’t be fooled. Sure. He tries again in front of her, causing Su to fight the smile threatening to break out from his antics.

He takes her to an outdoor spot where they can best see the stars, and the two bicker over how much they each know about astronomy. After Su tells him the sad story of the Cassiopeia constellation, he tells her about how long ago, he’d seen his younger brother Jung in his mother’s lap and wished desperately for him to just disappear.

His mother had seen the look on his face and hid Jung, causing So to muse, “Perhaps she already knew that I would become a person who would kill my own brother.” Su tells him that it’s normal to think that of one’s younger siblings, and describes how she used to wish for her own sibling to disappear.

So smiles, “Are you trying to make me give up on you, or do you want me to only have eyes for you?” He describes how all his problems seem to go away whenever he sees her, so he can’t very well live without her now. “If you’re not going to come to me, don’t leave me with hope. It’s torture.”

He leans in for a kiss, but Su quickly puts a hand to his lips to stop him. Didn’t he say he would get her permission first? So chances a smile as he asks for her permission now, but he’s denied. He’s also denied from stealing a kiss, which Su preempts before he even has a chance. Aw.

So says that the king will marry her off to an old man at this rate, but Su’s not worried, since the king holds her in high regard. Foiled, So lies back to look at the stars before asking her to spend her upcoming day off with him. He has something he’ll tell her then.

Wook claims to speak for the ailing King Hyejong as he calls for a restructuring of the military at the next assembly, but So calls him out for using the king’s illness in order to become regent. Despite Wook being a high-ranking official now, So warns him against making up orders from the king, since he’ll start to make people angry.

His half-brother laughs, claiming to be impressed by how So’s handling politics now. So says he only got into politics to be able to go against Wook, since he still suspects him. Wook says he’ll heed the warning, but adds that he went a little further than he would have because it was something he couldn’t get done as “just” a high-ranking official.

King Hyejong’s health is failing him, and Chae-ryung acts suspiciously as she’s left in charge of adding herbs to the king’s bath. Ninth prince Won waits for her outside the bath, and makes a not-so-cryptic comment about having more mercury delivered for the palace’s mirrors. Whatever the scheme is, Chae-ryung seems to be in on it with him.

The king complains of his unease and inability to sleep to Wook, who looks on dispassionately as the king wraps himself in a blanket. Wook coldly advises the king to abdicate the throne to him, promising to help the king live in comfort if he does so.

Hyejong stars behaving even more erratically the next day as he sends his very young daughter off to be married. She can’t even have reached puberty at the age she’s at, and cries for her father not to send her away—and to the Khitan, no less.

In the king’s warped mind, he believes the marriage will provide a useful alliance for him in the future, so he won’t hear his daughter’s pleas. So does, however, since her cries remind him of himself when he was that age, and how he’d cried for his mother when she’d tied him to the top of the palace gates and… had archers use him for flaming arrow target practice? What the hell, lady?

So tries to step in on the little girl’s behalf, but the king has gone stark raving mad. That’s when he turns to So and asks if he’ll marry the princess and protect him. Oh no.

As promised, Su waits for So on her day off, adorned in silk clothes and the hairpin he once gifted her. So notices the hairpin immediately, and carefully masks his inner turmoil as he puts on a smile for her. But when Su reminds him that he said he had something to say to her, So plays dumb and says he can’t remember what it was.

He pokes fun at her for having high expectations for what he was going to say, and Su does her best to hide her disappointment. Since So feels bad, he promises to make it up to her, which includes a boat ride out on the water. Noticing her tight grip on the boat’s edges, he tips the boat to and fro as a joke, unaware of just how much Su fears falling into the water.

She asks him if this is his boat, and he claims he brought it to the palace when he was younger. She scoffs a bit at him saying the boat is his favorite thing in the palace since she never sees him in it, to which he replies, “Because I like it too much.” Afraid that he’d come to like it too much and not want to leave the palace because of it, he didn’t use the boat on purpose. I’m guessing this is less about the boat and more about a metaphor for their relationship.

Su looks thoughtful for a moment before she says, “I was thinking about what it must be like to turn away from something you like. I also thought that it’s a relief you don’t have to do that anymore.” The meaning behind her words has So feeling guilty, and he apologizes for “forgetting” what he wanted to say to her.

We find out later that So has made the decision to marry the king’s young daughter in order to help protect his older brother. That way, he’ll make his evil mother and the Shinju clan believe he’s next in line for the throne, which will enable him to deflect some of the attacks aimed at the king.

Astronomer Choi praises him for his political calculations on this one, even though So’s not happy about the decision. “Am I back to being a dog on a leash to protect my brother?” he asks. “Is this my destiny? I am sick and tired of having to turn my back on the things I like.”

When he asks how he can free himself from such a situation, Astronomer Choi seems to jokingly imply that he could revolt. But in the end, he can only thank So for helping to protect the king in his hour of need.

The king, back to being sane for the moment, knows that Wook is only reading him appeals for the fourth prince to leave the palace because Wook wants to clear his own path to the throne. Wook claims that he only said what he said out of loyalty, but the king knows better than to buy it—he does plan on sharing his burden with one of his brothers, but it’s clear it won’t be Wook.

It’s So who comes to visit, which is when the king declares that So will be marrying his daughter. But since she’s too young to have children, he’s agreed that So can make her his second wife only. The king tells Wook that he plans on giving the throne to So, who is not only his brother, but also his son-in-law.

Wook pretends to accept this information with a congenial smile, but he can’t resist the pointed barb at So: “I hope there aren’t any girls crying over losing such a good man for a husband.” Oooh.

Su fashions modern face masks for both fourteenth prince Jung and tenth prince Eun’s wife, but afterward, Eun takes issue with how much Jung compliments his wife on her skin. She leaves in a huff after he compares her to Su (again), and Su chastises him for acting that way toward a wife who everyone knows he likes. It’s been three years and he still treats her like she has cooties?

Thanks to Eun’s big mouth, Su finds out about So’s impending marriage and spends the evening brooding. So knows she’s heard the second he sees her face, but he doesn’t attempt to shift the blame. She can hate him all she wants.

He reminds her that he promised to take her out of the palace and set her free, but now, he won’t be able to keep to his word. “Are you not even going to give me an excuse?” Su asks dejectedly. So knows that he can’t give her a reason for breaking her trust, so he’s not going to try. All Su can do is half-heartedly congratulate him, even as tears fall from her eyes.

Baek-ah delivers a letter from So to Su, claiming that this is So’s excuse. The poem reads, “Walking until the water’s edge, I sit and watch as clouds rise up and appear.” It’s from “Villa on Zhongnan Mountain” by Chinese poet Wang Wei, and Su sighs that she didn’t know he could write so well, adding that there’s a lot she doesn’t know about him.

Su tries to parse out the poem excerpt as she remembers what So said about wanting her to experience the same freedom he did when he was an ambassador, and how being king would mean nothing to him if he didn’t have her. The latter part of the voiceover continues as So keeps vigil at his sick brother’s bedside.

She attempts to trace over his characters with her own, mimicking his handwriting as best she can. She repeats the poem over and over with tears in her eyes as So gets married in another part of the palace.

Jung pays a visit to his mother in a nearby temple, only to find her with a bearded and somewhat bedraggled third prince Yo. Of course he’s alive. No one’s ever died from falling off a cliff in sageuk.

The white-haired Queen Sinmyeongsunseong is overjoyed at her son’s re-emergence, though he’s had to stay in hiding because of his current status as a traitor. Jung tells his older brother that he’ll ask the king to pardon and reinstate Yo, but even Yo knows how foolish an idea that is when he’s known for trying to steal the throne.

Yo already knows about the wedding to take place between So and the king’s daughter, which has raised suspicions that the king plans to abdicate to So. Jung admits that he’s against So taking the throne, but he won’t become a traitor to stop him. That’s when Yo claims that it isn’t treason if you win. (Isn’t it?)

Still, Jung says that he’ll stand by the king, despite Yo telling him that the king has gone mad. Does he want to leave Goryeo in the hands of a mad king, or any person a mad king leaves in power?

That night, Jung sneaks into the palace despite the king closing it off to any and all outsiders. So sees this and gives chase with a contingent of guards, eventually ending up at Su’s quarters. They’ve somehow deduced that this is the only room Jung could be in, but Su firmly forbids them from entering, using her high rank as the reason they cannot enter.

When So decides to ignore her order and search the room himself, Su threatens to use her hairpin to pierce her own throat with if he takes one step further. Claiming that she can’t suffer the disgrace of having him enter her room (as she’s unmarried), she’d rather die.

She further adds that if So wants to gain entry, he’ll have to bring an order from the king to do so. So asks if she’s sure that no one’s in her room, and she flatly answers that she’s sure, and scratches her neck with the hairpin for added effect.

So and his men are forced to leave, and Su collapses once she gets back into her room. Jung is hiding there after all, and worries over her scratch—was she really going to stab herself with her hairpin? Su says that she didn’t have much of a choice, since she wants to avoid any conflict between the princes.

Jung asks her which side she’d take if the princes were ever to fight each other, prompting Su to answer that she’d have no reason to take anyone’s side. He reminds her that they can’t go back to the days where they were all friends, and that she’ll have to choose a side soon.

“Even so,” Su replies, “I don’t think I will be able to take anyone’s side, because I do not wish for anyone to get hurt. I’m going to make sure that happens.” Jung can’t help but smile at her when she eventually falls asleep, and even tucks her in just to be adorable.

So confronts Su the next day, and forcefully drags her out of Damiwon to ask her if Jung was in her room. Despite her claiming that didn’t happen, So knows better, and demands an explanation. Su asks him to do some explaining to her then, and he can start with his marriage.

He tells her that he had to save the king’s daughter from becoming a hostage to the Khitan, and marrying her was the only option he had. Su gets teary-eyed as she tells him that he should’ve just said that from the beginning, but says he couldn’t because he didn’t know what he could say to her.

He knows she hates the idea of multiple wives, and all his attempts to avoid that happening have now amounted to nothing. What could he have said to her? At least Su is honest in response, as she admits that Jung was in her room last night, though for reasons she claims are innocuous.

So wants her to make a promise not to lie again, but Su asks what she should do if there’s something neither of them want to admit. In that case, So says, she should just admit she doesn’t want to say whatever it is, because he hates liars the most. In return, he promises not to lie to her either.

“Are you not angry anymore?” he ventures carefully, and Su shakes her head. She asks if he regrets getting married (we only saw a glimpse of the ceremony earlier), and he shakes his head as he replies that he doesn’t. He did what he had to do to protect the king, and the princess was sent away to a temple, just as the king promised.

So still proves that he’s still clueless when it comes to Su’s feelings when he asks if the man she claimed to love before was actually Jung. Hah. She dispels that thought but fails to tell him who it was, and he doesn’t press the issue either.

She confronts him over what he “forgot” to tell her in the boat, knowing that he didn’t actually forget. In answer, he closes the distance between them as he says, “I love you.” Su smiles and closes the distance even further by leaning up to kiss him. “Next time, don’t forget it.”

So smiles, grabs her around the waist, and pulls her in. Holding her face, he leans in for a real kiss, which she finally accepts and reciprocates. Huzzah!

While Baek-ah just so happens to be thinking about Woo-hee, she magically appears before him. “Is this a dream?” he wonders, as Woo-hee admits that she’s thought of him during the time they’ve been apart. He pulls her into an embrace, happy to have her back.

Won arranges a meeting between Wook and Yo, who comes into the palace in disguise. Yo reveals that Wook was the one who ordered Won to use mercury in Damiwon, which is presumably why the king is currently ill, and commends his half-brother for being so coldhearted.

Cut to: Yo bringing an army to the gates of the palace to begin his revolt. (I know.) Jung prepares to go out to face his brother in order to protect the king, but his mother tells him to kill her first—she can’t bear to see her sons fighting against each other. Unless Jung wants to kill his own mother, he can’t leave.

From within the palace, Su and Chae-ryung have a non-reaction to hearing the sound of screaming outside. The king steps out of his bath coughing blood, and Chae-ryung hightails it out of there before Yo’s soldiers can arrive to drag Su away from the ailing king.

King Hyejong recognizes Yo when he struts into the room and begs for his life, but Yo coldly pries his hand away. Yo almost seems to pity his brother, but then he pushes him into the bath.

The king flounders as he drowns in what can only be three feet of water, but Yo just watches dispassionately. Su loses her ability to stand once the king goes still, floating face down in the water. He’s dead.

So and Astronomer Choi arrive too late to save him, but the sight of the king floating in the water fills So with murderous rage. He cuts through the remaining soldiers to reach the bath as Astronomer Choi goes into the water to retrieve the king. He cries for him to open his eyes again as the realization of his death hits him, causing everyone else to stop fighting.

Yo is quick to claim that he didn’t come here in full battle regalia to kill the king—he was already dying from the poison Su was putting in his bath. Su’s eyes widen at this, but Won throws her to the ground as he claims that mercury was discovered in the bathwater, and only she was allowed to administer to the king’s baths.

Yo gives So a choice: He can stay loyal to the dead king and die with Su, or join him and save her life. But he’ll keep Su’s crime of regicide in his back pocket should he ever need it, which seems to be his way of keeping So in check.

So strikes at Yo, and the two lock blades as So demands that he let Su go. Yo has Won hold a sword against Su’s neck as he tells So, “Wolves tend to devote themselves to one female until death. And you are the same as a beast. Choose. Is it Hae Su, or the dead king?”

 
COMMENTS

How is this even a viable choice So has to make? There are few things more annoying than villains providing an ultimatum by using the heroine as bait, but this whole situation is really something else. Considering that Yo’s been branded a traitor for storming the palace with an army to kill the man who was his father, how did he think this was going to work out? He doesn’t honestly think that he can storm the palace again and mystically claim that someone else committed regicide, can he?

The sad thing is, I think he does think that, and he’ll likely get away with it for no other reason than it being in the script. There’s no reason for the mercury plot to have existed at all if the king was going to die of drowning anyway—at that point, Yo could’ve just held him under those three inches of water until he stopped breathing. I can understand that the point was (maybe) to make Su seem culpable, but it’s not as though nobody saw Yo and his army come into the palace. It’d be different if Yo was just paying a friendly visit to his brother, but after being branded a traitor, who would honestly believe that Su was the one who would kill the king, as opposed to the guy who came back from the dead after trying to kill the last king?

Time skips are a given in sageuk when ground needs to be covered, but this is the second time Moon Lovers has been unable to use a time skip effectively—we get the illusion that time has passed, but nothing changes. We resumed exactly where we were before with the character relationships, leaving us to wonder if Su spent two years denying So’s advances, and why that only changed in the span of this single episode. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad that nothing major happened offscreen (aside from Su getting a frankly insane promotion), but it only served to create a disconnect between what we thought we knew about these characters and what was actually happening before us.

It’s not all doom and gloom though, since I found Su and So’s honesty with each other to be quite refreshing, even if the circumstances surrounding their honest conversation were bizarre. We completely rushed through So’s marriage to a child, and though we understood his reasoning behind it, it’s hard to see what impact that had on the story when the king passed so quickly afterward. Also, was no one even remotely concerned about the king going absolutely mad? Was So not even a little suspicious that something horrible was going on behind the scenes to make his previously normal-seeming brother into a lunatic?

I guess we just have to take it on faith that everyone thought this progression of events was normal for the king, which would be easier to buy if we were dealing only with people from this time period. But Su, who could recognize illnesses with one glance and prescribe the perfect ye olde herbs to remedy them, has less of an excuse for standing idly by while the king’s condition went south. She knew he had eczema, which everyone else assumed was a life-threatening condition, but she’d know better than anybody that his skin condition wouldn’t cause madness. Or maybe she wouldn’t, and I’m giving her too much credit. Just throw us a bone, Su—we want to like you, but you’ve got to help us out a little.

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I'm marking this as the episode in which Hae Soo finds her inner stoic bitch face.

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Also I don't think So married the princess yet as his hair isn't in a married man updo yet. Also Moo said she would be a second wife when she was of age. I assume they are merely marked as betrothed.

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yes bethrothed. in modern times, engaged.lol. that's why she will still end up second wife.

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Ahh, that's explains it. I had wondered whether how it is possible to have second wife, but no first wife yet.

Admittedly this surprised me. I thought we will be presented with his marriage to Yeon Hwa first, and the director might forgo the niece because, you know, um, marriage with niece is a very risky subject to venture in family slot drama.

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I'm confused. The subtitles said that Soo and the Child Princess are married not betrothed. Which is it?

Betrothed would be a bit easier to digest. :( Although i understand the circumstances of the marriage but its back to square one with Su again being involved with a married man. Sigh...

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I wonder whether wearing sangtu was a must for married man in Goryeo period?

I'm curious since I saw Lee Bang Won didn't have to wear sangtu right away after his marriage in SFD.

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For Lee Bang Won, I read in a blog called 'bodashiri' where the owner explains a lot of historical backgrounds behind SFD and the reason why he didn't wear sangtu right away after marriage was, "Yi Bang-Won should have tied a topknot way earlier, especially since he married Lady Min. But I guess the SFD writers wanted to make his topknot a symbol for a departure from his childhood (or a separation from his teacher Sambong)". Hope it answers your curiosity.

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Wahh I miss Lee Bang Won!!!

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Ok! Thanks a bunch @honeylime :)

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Mate, I'm still hurt about Bang Won and Boon Yi. I legitimately may never recover.

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I think it's because the princess becomes his 2nd wife, so I guess not his first official wife?

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Yes, I think that's the reason...

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This show is not trying to be authentic. It doesn't follow the actual history or the traditions and customs of this era closely.
A married man would wear his hair up. If he held a government office his hair would be up in a topknot too whether he is married or not.

(In a more traditional sageuk like Shin Don, who was a monk without a wife. He started wearing his hair up in a topknot after King Gongmin entrusted him with the affairs of the state).

I don't think the show cares about displaying proper traditions like we do.

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I think technically Wang So isn't married because his niece is his concubine. A man is not considered married until he marries his first official wife, they can take many concubines as they want before they marry their official wife.

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LOL. I noticed even before, that IU kind of always had that resting btch face.

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Now I am just worried for everyone's lives.. I knew this was coming but man...I was happy to forget the pain of the original with this so far..but now..I know I am going to end up in misery all over again..damn it.

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I feel youuuuuuu!!!!

I don't think that my heart is prepared for this Quit playing games with my heart *singing*

Praying that they will get a happy ending. Whether at that time period or modern time

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"Quit playing games with my heart"
Is that a Kim Possible reference?
(Even if you didn't mean it to be, I'm going to be singing Senior Senior Junior's version for hours, thanks a lot!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR_cWmmG8TU

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I think Anggi is singing Backstreet Boys' Quit Playing Games With My Heart?

I know I was!

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Just replay So doing the cutest WOLF CRY EVER!!! That should be enough to make you feel better ??? awoooo

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Mine is when So was asking Soo's permission to kiss her "Can I do it?"

I never made any gif before but because of thay scene I learned how to make one.

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Our only hope it to not remain in Goryeo. After all, it's a time travel saeguk which leaves the prospect of returning to the future as the way things will end - if anyone is still alive, that is. I'll bet Hae Soo's misery in the 21 C seems like a torn fingernail compare to her current life in hell. I'm guessing that Ji Mong will determine when the next solar eclipse will occur and give Hae Soo the time and place to exit stage right. And So will be close behind.

I am totally annoyed that Hae Soo didn't catch on to the King's worsening condition and be able to identify it as poisoning. Why, then, did the writers make such a big deal that she identified his skin condition and could help? It is if she was set up to follow in Lady Oh's footsteps and Head Court Lady but her effectiveness is nil.

So, are we getting the ff version of king-to-king-to-king down the line since it's episode count down time?

I could so easily fall for So and Soo, there isn't a fairer couple in all of kdramaland, but I want to be made to fall for their story, and not have make do with what we're given pretending it's enough.

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I think Soo was able to identify Mu's skin condition from personal experience. She said her mom suffered from the same condition. She's a cosmetologist, not a pathologist. I doubt most of us are able to identify mercury poisoning if we saw it in front of us. However, I do think she should've been more concerned/alarmed or suspicious of foul play.

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Right, being from the 21 C she definitely should have noticed the King's worsening symptoms and, considering the serious rivalry, foul play - even with her limited recall of history.

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To be fair to Soo, she's a beautician not a doctor, so like most of us in the 21c, she may not be familiar with the symptoms of poisoning, whether mercury or other types. The King was being attended to by the royal physician for his worsening condition, and the doctor diagnosed the King as suffering from stress.

And Lady Oh did say previously that they should leave the doctoring to the doctors.

I think the recapper forgot that Soo is no Dr Jin or Eun Soo.

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Ok so finally they killed the new king!!!

How come the queen never changes???? she always in the side of the third prince!!!
The nineth prince was in contact with the third prince but no one knew it!!! Well done guys!!!
How come he could move in and our of the palace without others known!!!
Is the third and nineth princes are that much powerful???

Thankfuly our prince will not marry the princess!!!!
But the heart broken Soo was so pitiful!!!!

Nice expression in So when BaekHa give the gift to Soo on her birthday!!!
The wolf call!!! That made me crack when i listened!!!

Seriously LJK you don't have to act!!! even if you stand to the screen it is a success!!!
The expressions and the dialog deliverence!!! as usual the best!!!
And the sword fight!!! no need to say anything!!!
Eventhough the story has so many clitches!!! i'm watching this only for LJK!!!

As for HaNeul while in the earlier episodes he was full of life and expressions!!!
But now there were no expressions but it gives a sinister feeling to his character and HaNeul is doing it great!!!
without expressions in his face!!! He is showing expressions with his words!!! Daebakkkk

And thanks for the recap!!!

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That wolf call scene was tacky but cute!

"Wolves tend to devote themselves to one female until death"

I never knew that, is that right? Wolf-dog Wang So ah, how much more agony and torture you would have to undergo and endure before you can be with Su? You kept putting off with getting the only one thing you really wanted so much. With all these external pressures thrust upon him, no wonder he went ballistic and ruthless at the end when he became king.

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with a quick google search cause I believe the myth is broken
this what I found
Wolfe
After Mating, pairs will continue to be affectionate. Although wolves often have long-lasting attachments to their mates,
----if one wolf dies, the widowed mate may breed with another wolf. In addition, some males may bond to different females in different years, destroying the long-held "mate for life" myth.

should have used Goose just like in Chinese and Korean culture
Geese are very loyal. They mate for life and are very protective of their partners and offspring. If a goose's mate or chicks become sick or injured, he or she will often refuse to leave their side, even if winter is approaching and the other geese in the group are flying south.

besides they have pond, lake and boat . . . goose is the perfect symbolism

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Well he wouldn't be so scarry if he was the goose slayer,no? jajaj

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I look it up again
wolf is quite faithful but not for life and they didn't pawn over the one single loves

#5. Wolves – 12 years
Most species of wolves, including gray wolves, will mate for life. Normally, only the alpha wolves in the pack will be allowed to mate, and will “rule” the pack together. However, sometimes the lesser wolves, known as subordinates, will mate as well. After choosing a mate, wolves will usually stay with their mate for life. However, when a wolf’s mate dies, the wolf will search out a new mate, instead of staying alone for the rest of their life.

In Oregairu, the protagonist describe wolfs as social animal cause they makes a pact/community but the real lone animal is a bear

but based on google best picked, the faithful animal are
-Emperor Penguin
-Termite
-Beaver
-French Angelfish
-Bald Eagle
-Black Vulture
-Swan
-Geese

So can be the emperor penguin, the roaring (bald) eagle (or the chinese 4th prince) or the black swan , , ,

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add : sorry if this ruin the flow
I didn't mean to comment but I saw the question about wolf above

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Termite! LOL.

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Beaver? Wang So? OMG ... my stomach's hurting ...

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That's the reason why they chose Wolf because it would've been wimpy if So will be " Emperor Penguin slayer" or "Termite Slayer"..Lol. JK.

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Maybe bald eagle is a good substitute for wolf-dog, but the rest are no-no.. Imagine the regal image of an eagle soaring in solitude, not bad right? Befitting of Wang So's image. This reminded me of the Return Of The Condor Heroes, which also has a lovesick hero who waited 16 years to be reunited with his one and only love.

If it were an eagle, then LJK would have to make that piercing shrill sound of an eagle's call to get Su's attention. Try imagine him doing that, oh gosh!

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Wang So, the termite slayer!

Fear him. He burned 1000 with just one stroke.

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Wang So, the great Fish

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"if one wolf dies, the widowed mate may breed with another wolf.

In addition, some males may bond to different females in different years, destroying the long-held “mate for life” myth"

so not all lived for one mate, some has multiple mate/wives

and when the mate died, they'll find the replacement not like other animal symbol like geese that only has one mate for their entire life span

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omg!!this is so funny...So as termite or a beaver or bald eagle...hahahahaha....it is an insult. I'll stick to wolf...cannot imagine him as a mere bug!

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Everyone mixes two animals and calls him wolf dog, so maybe Termite Beaver?....

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Yes...even Cayote's as well. I am a fan of paranormal romance and this comes across as well. In reality, the bond is usually maintained if the mates get puppies. The 'dad' sticks around to raise them...

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and making a goose honking call would be far less romantic than a wolf cry~

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Errrrr... *scroll down* *look at the other options* I think I'm okay with wolf. Thank you.

Let's ignore Yo. He doesn't know what he's talking about. LOL.

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Hahaha, so funny!

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So based on the research, a more accurate statement would have been:

“Wolves tend to devote themselves to one female until HER death”.

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But goose won't perfectly fit our wolf-dog wang so, would it? XD

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Now that Yo have Su's so-called-traitorous act hanging over So's head, I come to suspect that it was Yo who blackmailed and forced So to do all those killing that Su saw in her premonition. That would explain why So looked so crazy when he killed Eun.

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Completely agree. We'll find out tonight :(

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That is not entirely correct, it might be best to read the works of David Mech for more information. The groups the wolves create in the wild are families. It means each year the parents would breed, and the so called subordinate wolves are just offspring from the previous breeding season. In case of fights and death of the mate, the other partner will seek out another one. But frankly wolf life in the wild is rather short, so the comparison to wolf seems adequate.

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" The nineth prince was in contact with the third prince but no one knew it "

My interpretation was different. I thought 9th was directly working with Wook until 3rd come back. So it was like, all Wook's effort gone to waste because Yo will take the throne instead of him.

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If SO really has to kill any of his brothers, I nominate Won (9th prince) as tribute!

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I second that :)

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I 'third' that. Lol

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It is hard to say since his backstory was never revealed. It could be that Yo was the one that keep him in their circle. Maybe his mother was far from being noble. If it is, it give him a reason to be loyal to his master.

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Won is nothing but a wealthy opportunistic storm trooper. He's smart enough to work in the shadows and support the villainous ploys Yo has against Taejo and now Mu. He knows the risk of him getting caught and killed is far less than being the actual face behind the treasonous acts. In the end, he gets what he needs and also saves his face. So that to me is even worse than Yo. Won is a cowardly leech that knows whose hand to kiss.

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Everybody gets their wish in this instance ;)

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Won is the type who would hedge his bets by supporting both Yo and Wook.

Like Yoyo said, Won works from the shadows. I don't remember seeing him during the failed coup attempt, he let Yo and Wook do all the "frontline" work.

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I almost thought you nicknamed Third Prince Yo, 'Yoyo', then realised it's a beanie's username.

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I couldn't help but ask...dude, why are you shouting at the end of every sentence?

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So and Soo. Soo and So. Oh, what a lovely, mature relationship these two have. Another reason to love the friends to lovers trope.

I loved how they went from being mad at each other to talking things out and kissing in like 5 mins flat.
And poor So is still trying to figure out who Soo said she loved. Like, it's been 2 years already and all you could come up with was Jung?! I think it's because So sees relationships very simply. You're either family or romantic interests. And since he's firmly put Wook in Soo's "family" category, he appears to be incapable of thinking they would be together.

Speaking of So, he appears to be doing everything Wook probably wishes he'd done in his relationship with Soo. He takes responsibility for his actions, he explains and takes advantage of all the chances Soo gives him to explain things. And the best part is that when he does explain things, Soo UNDERSTANDS. I'm like, see Wook, if only you'd explained things to Soo honestly and openly, you wouldn't be getting darker and darker character-wise as the story goes on. Also, notice how So never promises anything he's not sure he'll be able to deliver. He even believes he has broken the unspoken promises he's made to Soo. He owns up to them and doesn't expect her to wait for him by giving her half-hearted promises. I guess having to wait 4 years to even get to kiss the love of your life teaches you things.

As for Yo, shame on you for using Soo to control So. I hope you die as painfully as Wang Mu died.
And you, Won and Chaeryung! You're dead to me! Won was already dead to me after episode 11 but Chaeryung, how could you?!
Wook, Wook, the less said about you the better. Shame on you.

This episode made me wish we really did have more than 20 episodes. The pacing was a bit fast (Soooo much happened in this one episode) and I wish we'd gotten to see So and Soo's relationship during the 2 years timeskip. Doesn't appear to have moved a lot forward, just Soo becoming more comfortable and returning to her old friendship with So but still, I wish we had time to see it.

Oh and before I forget. Jung! What the hell are you doing trying to mack on your elder bro's girl? Quit it, before I approve of So smacking you in the face with his mask.

Lastly, Wang Mu. Goodnight, sweet prince. You were too good and kind for the world. You will be missed.

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Ah! Won the Weasel.

I shouldn't wish you a slow, painful torturous death, but somehow I do. With all my heart.

Kudos to the actor, it's not easy playing such a slimy character but he succeeds very well.

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Chae Ryung is in love with Won so she will do anything that Won tells her to do. If you recall the episode where Chae Ryung was being whipped by Yeon Hwa, CR looked at Won. And it has been mentioned twice that CR can't read and write? Soo will realise that CR lied to her later.

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But wasn't Won mean to CR when she was pleading for Wook to help Su? And CR seemed to be afraid of Won. I'm thinking maybe they backmailed her into doing it for reason to be revealed later in the game. Or maybe they convinced her she was eventually doing it for Su's benefit, which to her maybe scary but believable since she's a very simple girl with submissive personality.

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She wasn't blackmailed in the internet novel. She was in love with the 9th prince and so did it for him. At this point, I doubt they would change the original just to give her a different story line.

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In the Chinese version there was a relationship between them. I just really hope they have a different ending for her than the Chinese version since that was utterly disgusting.

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I'm pretty sure there's something romantic between CR and Won.

When CR was done being whipped, CR and Won's gaze met for a moment and then Won looked away. Plus, when CR was being whipped, Won murmured "I think she's beaten enough" (something like that) but nobody noticed.

I think CR loves Won, yes, despite the fact he treats her poorly. Maybe Won loves her too... as much as his selfish and greedy heart can allow.

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Won the Weasel

It rhymes!

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Won Weasley?

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I feel like 20 episodes are actually enough. it's just that it was to slow on episode 1 - 10, that now they are rushing everything that is left to covered, which make the show jumped to every scenario every 10 seconds.

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Lastly, Wang Mu. Goodnight, sweet prince. You were too good and kind for the world. You will be missed.

:( He was the best, kindest brother of the bunch. Taejo was right when he insisted that Mu be emperor, but it's a pity that he had such a hard time and didn't manage to do more to his full ability. Mu could have been a great ruler, but everyone was ready to step all over him just because he didn't have a noble-enough mother.

Goodbye Mu, thank you for being a sweetheart not just to your brothers, but everyone around you as well. Thank you for being gentle and accommodating to So, who is now returning your love in kind. Thank you for standing up for Su, for your wedding present to Soon-deok, and of course, your friendship with Ji-mong. You will be dearly missed.

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TourmalineMilli Thank you so much for 'saying my thoughts outlaid' but more eloquently.

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Not to sound like a hater, but this was not a good episode...

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Yeah, i thought it was weirdly disjointed and i was having trouble relating to what happen.

I love the development of So and Su though eventhough it felt kind of shallow and rushed. Finally!

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I have been trying to name the feeling that I had from So and Soo's relationship and you (Callie) explained it really well for me. "Shallow and rushed".
I think it was really because we saw Wook and Soo's relationship developing and ending for about 13 episodes. And now in the 14th episode with a 2 year jump we see them kiss. What happened in those two years? Were they away from each other? Did she not miss him? Did she not allow him to approach her at all? And then suddenly she decided that it's OK for her to kiss him...Go! I also felt that it was really unfair to watch Wook and Soo"s relationship for 13 episodes now that we have only six episodes left we will be watching, hopefully, So and Soo's relationship. And the writer's expect us to believe that they were meant to be with each other and they were madly crazily in love with each other.
I think that this episode was the worst of all... I am really disappointed and I can't get over it.

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Yep, So and Soo ship sunk before it even really began.

Nothing kills the romance like "hey, i married my baby niece for political reasons and i know you hate multiple wives, but on the bright side, i really love you. Now how about a kiss." Ugh.

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Remember the good ol' DVD player?, then you probably experienced the fast forward button having a mind of its own when you impatiently want to 8x the fast forward speed to the scene you want. Just keep that in mind when you watch this episode. The editors did the exact same thing. This episode would have been perfect had they inserted bits of the past two years to keep us updated on why things are the way they are.
We dídn't even get to see Taejo's goodbye! And where is Princess Yeon Hwa??

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In the international version Wook hid mom and YH during the coup. They had a conversation and from the looks of it it seemed like YH was quietly contented during Mu's reign, not plotting anything, not shaking the boat. But Yo's return would probably agitate her and get her in defensive mode once again.

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Argh.

MUST.DIG.INTERNATIONAL.VERSION.

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Ok, just watched the international version. There are two key scene additions:

1) near the beginning, there's a scene of Chae Ryung mixing up herbs in a suspicious manner. Won comes in, thanks her and gives her a pouch full of coins. Next scene is the one with Mu in the bath complaining to Hae Soo about how tired he feels. CR then puts the bag of poisonous herbs in the bath. So her complicity is clearer here.

2) the scene of Yo storming Damiwon in search of Mu is juxtaposed with Wook explaining to his mother and Yeon Hwa that a rebellion by Yo is taking place. YH can't believe that Wook is placing his trust in Yo while Mom lashes out that she didn't raise a traitor for a son. Wook tells them that his actions are for the protection of his family. When pressed by Mom if it was for Hae Soo's sake, Wook says yes (aargh).

This second scene explains shows Wook's involvement in the revolt and his family's opposition to it.

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Just remembered one more difference.

At the beginning of the episode, the SBS version has CR remarking how it was thanks to Hae Soo that she got emancipated from Wook's household, and it stops there.

But in the international version, CR goes on to say that Wook has never stopped loving Hae Soo, and that scene ends with HS's pensive expression upon hearing that.

It seems like the intl version is hinting more strongly at the love triangle.

At this point, I can only hope we get a director's cut at the end so that we can see ALL the intended story threads.

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At this point, I should just download all the episodes and do the editing myself. ?

Oh this production really wants us to work hard. SMH.

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@Lemon Meringue: Thank you for detailing out those scenes. I really appreciate it

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I personally like it MUCH BETTER than the one year time skips on episode 12/13. The transition seems smoother and the character development for Hae Soo notably, she seems much more stronger now . But of course there's flawed logic evident on the episode. Regardless of that, i have loved this series with all its flaws. I embraced it alll.

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I felt disconnected with what's going on on the screen (I watched the international version). Say what you will about how flawed this show is, but I enjoy the ride immensely, until last night. The time jump's too soon, they should do a proper send off for King Taejo at the beginning

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Sbs version flows of the story is good. You can clearly understand it. For intl version some looks, rushed because of the time limit given to them.

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I watched both version. Most of sbs versions are better than international versions in terms of bgm and story flow. I suggest, if you don't have enough time to watch both version, just watch the international one.

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"So and Su's moments today are so sweet it's really worth the wait. I know we waited 14 episodes but I'm still very happy and contented. The banters were cute and funny at times. I'm kinda worried though when So asked if it was Jung whom Su loved before. It made me wonder how he will react if he found out that it was Wook and to think that they're some sort of rival. But then there was that kiss that she initiated this time so i hope everything will be fine even if he'll find out later.

I feel bad for So because he made one good deed. But it will not play out well on his part. I mean, his only goal was to be love by Su and get her out of the palace. And then he ended up marrying his niece to appease the king and in the process, everybody became worried because the King suddenly announced that he will abdicate and pass the crown to So.

I thought that Wook going to the dark side has not affected me (even if i ship Wook-Su before) until i saw him talking on King's behalf. It was like he was closer to the King than So. And then that mercury thing. He deliberately use Su to poison the King and then put the blame to her. Wook is definitely a smart cookie because the moment 3rd show up. He's back to Plan A. (Help the traitor. Kill him later and be a Hero).

I'm disappointed in Chae Ryung because Su trusted her and i thought she's a loyal servant/friend. Turned out she let her self be used by Wook and Won. I doubt that she didn't know that Su might be put in the bad spot but then i know she did all of it to survive.

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I think the stuff with Wook matters how it's delivered,how So finds out...The worst case is Wook using it as poision

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He deliberately use Su to poison the King and then put the blame to her.

I think Wook didn't use Su, it was Su's minion that was used to poison the king's bath water with mercury, also, it was not Wook's intention to frame Su, but more of Yo's doing in order to subjugate So.

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But given the fact that Soo was the only one who had access to the king, regardless of whoever Wook used to put in the mercury, Soo would be the only one to be blamed over King's poisoning. And I think Wook is not that stupid to not know about this fact. Either he doesn't care about Soo or he's just too absorbed in his "must get the power so I can get Soo back" fantasy that he believes doing so will eventually get him the throne and Soo.

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Wook probably thought that the royal doctors would be blamed, but for some mysterious reason only known to the drama writer, they were MIA, so instead the forever damsel in distress Su took the fall again

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Betcha by golly wow it wasn't Wook that used Su. Though I think he's in on it but it really is that cowardly leech, Prince Won that did by using Chae Ryung as the evil doer and poor Su being the patsy.

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The mercury thing was Wook's idea. Because i remember Yo said that " Won informed me that you allowed mercury and put it n King's bath..blah blah.." So i really thought that It was Wook's initial plan to kill the King and then he'll just say that the Mu wanted him to be the next King.

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i guess the king trusted him more than so to handle political issues because during the coup, wook was the one who informed him the earliest and therefore allowed him to return to the palace fast. and wook was also the smartest and most trained for these political issues.
the king trusted so very much, but so didnt receive as much lessons, so i feel its natural that it seems like the king was pretty close with wook as well. i think he wouldve abdicated the throne to wook, if wook hadn't talked to him that night....

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Oh, you're right. I was wondering somewhere in the back of my mind why Wook was so favored, but he was the one to inform Mu of Yo's plot.

Man, so many things going on, it' hard to keep track of them all.

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Can I just say, I'm so disappointed at how Su has run Damiwon. Like were you not keeping track of anything at all? The King was literally bathing in mercury under your watch. This never would have happened under Lady Oh.

Also like wtf Chae Ryung. When did you get the balls to poison a King.

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It's so weird. We're talking about the girl who begged Wook to save Hae Soo's life. And now she throws Soo to the same cliff?

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Yeah, me too. I know that in the c-version she did it (they say, I didn't read nor watch that version) because of her relationship with Won. But here I'm doubting if that would also be the case since she strikes me as someone afraid of Won and she seems to still care for Su. Maybe for a different reason?

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@banini I want to think she cares for Soo but why did she leave Soo on her own when Yo came?

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In the cdrama Chaeryung didn't harm Su 'directly', unlike in this Korean version where her actions would have a direct consequence on Su (since Su is the Damiwon head court lady). Chaeryung was sent as a spy in the cdrama, just well-positioned to be near Haesoo to monitor her movements and 'collect intel', as we would have it.

So no idea why they made Chaeryung's character so much more contradictory in this version, but guess we shall just wait and see.

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The upside to that is, its not the infamous cliff of Lee Jun Ki (I heard it's now called "Hiscliff") but still among the betrayals we've seen on this show, this might be the one that hurts the most.

What's the survival rate on that cliff anyways?

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There must be a healer shaman underneath the cliff with resurrection power.

Survival rate has been 100% so far.

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Or a W portal!

Damn. This magical cliff!

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@yoyo @kiara You guys have just given me a good laugh. LOL.

Maybe there's a giant trampoline or safety net down there. People put it there since random characters keep falling from that cliff.

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The cliff is like one of those secret pipes in the Mario game that transports you to a different level! Ha h. No wonder the survival rate is 100%!

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I concur with thy diagnostics, Kiara. This 100% survival rate; crossing dramas; albeit modern or historical dimension (screw timeline, we have portals and eclipse for time travel), is just too baffling. Too many heroes and vilains alike have survived Hiscliff.

We need to visit Hiscliff and research this anomaly.

For scientific purpose, of course.

Absolutely.

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Wow, what an episode of betrayal! I would be totally depressed except for THE LONG AWAITED KISS! YAY!

Some initial thoughts:
[1] Chae Ryung as a mole/co-conspirator makes me so sad. She never had much of a backbone, but this is just such a sad state of affairs. Hae Su is betrayed again by a friend.

[2] Wang So accepting and admitting responsibility (no excuses) for his failure to keep his promises to Hae Su was so moving. Obviously it is meant to be juxtaposed to WW, but I loved what a man of honor Wang So is.

[3] For those of you reading/following @Barbrey and @Jaime’s discussion about the water maid myth - what I find interesting is this false dichotomy set up in Taejo, Wang Wook, and Hae Su’s mind. They all think/fear it will always come down to a choice between “throne or girl”, but going by the myth, the throne does equal the girl. A quote I once heard was “To some men, saving the girl is the same as saving the nation.” Although counter-intuitive, the king must choose the girl, who represents the land/people.

[4] Hae Su’s conversation with Jung solidifies what we already know about her. She’s motivated by love and unity (something associated with the land/nation), which is why she keeps trying to keep the brothers together. She did this with Wang So when Eun asked for his face to be uncovered. She did this asking Wang So to spare Wang Wook.

[5] A lot of people whine about the problems of this production, sometimes citing the writers as the problem. But, I would argue all of Wang So and Hae Su’s conversations would contradict such a criticism.. I’m actually more enamored with their conversations this episode than the actual kiss. I know, strong words, eh?

The analogy between Wang So loving his boat, but having to restrain himself from it and Hae Su was pretty heart-wrenching.

I also love their star-gazing; Wang So is always so vulnerable with Hae Su, and she always finds the right words to bring healing and cover over his wounds.

I love how she wouldn’t accept the poem as an explanation, and demanded one “she could understand.” Again, such a contrast to Wang Wook. She didn’t seek out an explanation then, and didn’t know what he meant. But, with Wang So she does want to understand.

Lastly, I love how Wang So and Hae Su worked out their communication problems, insisting on being truthful always. It KILLED me when Wang So said that he knew Hae Su hated multiple wives. Awww! The depth of their trust in each other, the comfort they feel (even in the midst of misunderstanding, pain, and separation), the honesty they can engage in are just so beautiful. It’s that kind of soul-deep connection from friendship to love that is amazingly powerful! The mature they are dealing with one another are endlessly enjoyable to watch as they grow as characters.

[6] Oh, the hairpin. Such a sweet signal to Wang So. I loved LJG’s...

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I totally agree with you. One of the best episode yet.

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Love the way Hae Soo and So talk to each other, have loved every meet up they have....there's deep deep understanding between them....and it surprises me every time....".it is a mature way to interact" ....I agree.

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The hairpin! I think Jung kept it, as a love token (thinking she would have killed herself for him). He totally believes she would have done it only for him (which is why he asked the question and smiled to himself).

That's gotta cause problems later, right? If only because Jung's misunderstanding...

Lots more water symbolism thanks to @Barbrey! The boat (his favorite thing) for a love tryst on the lake, So's non-explanation poem ("He went to the waterside, but clouds came").

And yes, Chae Ryung: how could you?! Well, I know how you could (threat of death), but still, that's a serious betrayal.

Which brings up Wook again (lol): How could he not realize Hae Soo would be blamed for Mu's poisoning, as the one in charge of his baths? Did he realize? (If he did, that's even more horrifying.) Did he think no one would ever suspect? Couldn't he have picked another method, one that wouldn't implicate Hae Soo?

And this: "I love how she wouldn’t accept the poem as an explanation, and demanded one “she could understand.” Again, such a contrast to Wang Wook. She didn’t seek out an explanation then, and didn’t know what he meant. But, with Wang So she does want to understand." Thank you for pointing that out, PineappleGongzhu! That's totally true, and she was pissed! I don't ever recall her being angry with Wook, so that makes her relationship with So seem much more real and grounded (or as grounded as one can be in which one character has surprise-married a preteen and the other has refused to kiss him for 3 long years).

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'Which brings up Wook again (lol): How could he not realize Hae Soo would be blamed for Mu’s poisoning, as the one in charge of his baths?"

I'm guessing that if Wook becomes king, then it wouldn't matter? They'll just put the blame on some scapegoat, and since the king is all-powerful, Hae Soo wll not be blamed?

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A part of me thinks Wook is aware of the entire "Let's poison the King!" plan and at this point, he's so far into his own agenda that he could care less (?) about who gets the blame for it. On the flip side, if he still is the smart strategist that he is, he probably took the liberty of placing Chae Ryung in Damiwon not only for the sole purpose of extracting their evil plan, but as a patsy if and when Yo gets to a point of using his "Let me blame Su for the King" card.
Which makes a perfect segue into his political aspirations. A win-win for Wook.

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I'm confused as to why Wook wouldn't kill Yo on the spot and pull a coup himself by holding Su hostage through So. I mean he's vicariously doing that through Yo anyway. I supposed it's because Wook is so keen on legitimacy and not being seen a traitor that he hesitates to pull a public move.

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He totally believes she would have done it only for him

aaaagh I hope not, given that she explicitly stated that she'd have done it for any of his brothers. But poor Jung has had a crush on Su since the day she saved him in the forest (funny how when that scene was in the trailers, everyone thought HE saved HER instead of being the one who was saved), and I wonder how he's going to deal with it going forward.

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Agree with u Pogo..

I strongly believe, Jung knows that its his one-sided and Su doesnt like him and treats him the same manner as she would treat the other princes and like a brother to her..

If not he wouldnt even ask that question, and he doesnt seem surprise at her answer when Su answered him..

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Of course Haesoo would want a clear explanation. She has already been screwed over by a poem she didn't understand. My thought would be "Not another damn poem! Just tell me how it is."

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It's kind of hard not to trust how cowardly Chae Ryung behave. First of all, as far as her relationship with Soo in the beginning, it seemed as if they're not really in a friendship level with Chae Ryung being very cautious at first. Second they hadn't spend time together that much, after Lady Hae died that's it, they never really together until Soo became Damiwon's chief. It is easy for us the audience to connect them since it's only been couple of weeks but it's been years for them. Especially when Soo and her don't have that bff vibe anymore (added to the point that she kept pushing Soo to be with Wook, if she's a bff material, she won't do that)

Wook's character had become a writer's dream. So much layering, not just that 2 dimensional second lead who do everything to support the heroine yet being left in the dust. A great balance to the main lead.

Holy moly, I had a major whiplash watching two version of the subbed. At one version, it shown more that Chae-Ryung most probably will be the backup black goat because she got bribe money from Won, on the other version (b) she is just there to pour the mercury down. b version showed the So and Wook polite barb after Wook ordered the noble families to volunteer their male sires. I mean there are small things such as Soo inspecting the facility that they omit on B, but it add the meeting between Wook and her mother and sister.

THIS IS QUITE BIG. He explained that he squirreled the two of them away so no harm would come to them. But Yeon Hwa adamantly rebuke him for doing so because Yo will for sure rid of them afterwards. Although Wook don't think so they could still use each other, as long as So's not the next in line. Mother of course pissed, for having her only son become a traitor. Which of course, Wook dear has to throw blame on. Such as pressuring him so that now they cannot live with honor and declaring to his mother that Hae Soo is the reason of his action. HOT DAMN! What a 180 degree after that decision he took to leave Soo in the rain.

In all the second version had a better flow. If you guys want to rewatch it. Even the preview had a better edit.

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Another way to look at it about Soo's respond, is because Soo might felt burdened for taking Wook's affection away from Lady Hae. That relationship never sprout in a steady ground. Soo was the parasite that suck Wook's love and knowing her, that will always be in the back of her mind. Wook and her relationship will never be as solid.

With So, she is so used to him being crude and honest that it angers her when he kept secret away from her. Also maybe because it reminded her of her past relationship of lack of thereof with Wook. Their connection was build from a small seed. Two years might be long, but you know what years ago that's how relationships were. Also we don't know, perhaps So had been in and out of palace for Moo dear. you can definitely see their growth by just listening to Soo talking smack in front of So regarding her birthday.

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I'm half as curious to know what Chae Ryung was bribed with before I make any assumptions that she needs more thn a hundred whips and several slaps on the face for such a an unforgivable betrayal.

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I really like your seeds/sprouts analogy, Blargh. I have just been semi-annoyed with Soo keeping So at arm's length all this time. Like he said, don't give him hope if she's just going to reject him! I didn't think he or anyone else would wait around forever*, and sure enough, she was shocked enough to kiss him after he married someone else.

So seeds/sprouts takes some of the annoyance out of it.

(*I take it back: this show is full of people who wait around forever/years and years of unrequited love.)

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I started watching the international version, but then the player wasn't working and I changed for the sbs one and it was so different. and now I'm reading your comment.

I know we're on episode 14, but it's still bizarre to me how many changes they're making from their first finish product. what a mess re: planning....

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Totally. I think putting this in less than 20 episodes made the editor scratching their head till bald. There's so much scenes that was too good to be cut so maybe they are trying to put as much in different version as possible.

I suggest another way to do it. Make it so that it was told in different POV. The first POV should be the Monday and the second should be Tuesday. That way they could fit the marvelous scenes and we got more LJG oppa, WIN WIN!!!

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What do u mean?

sbs version of ep1 on monday
international version of ep2 on tuesday?

or sbs versionof ep1 on monday?
then international version of ep1 on tues?

that wouldnt be really helpful.. (im not saying now is good, but its not going be any better..) since having more in one means less in that too, scene added means some scenes are removed or shorten.. (so unless u watched both version or compile it on ur own, if not u wouldnt get the full picture anyway)

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"....such as pressuring him so that now they
cannot live with honor and declaring to his mother
that Hae Soo is the reason of his action...."

Can I please call bullshit on Wook's reason for his actions. I don't understand why he keeps deceiving himself that Hae soo is the reason for his actions. Dude, c'mon. You know very well about the revolt and that Hae soo is in charge of the kings bath and that will be framed for the whole mess, now you show your face and say Hae soo is the reason for your action. B*tch please!!!!!!!

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It’s that kind of soul-deep connection from friendship to love that is amazingly powerful!

This summarized it all, well said, @pineappleGongzhu

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I’m actually more enamored with their conversations this episode than the actual kiss.

Hasn't it always been like that, though? And that speaks to how strong their connection is before they even realised they were attracted to each other, because that was a great kiss.

And it's time to revisit our old friend the emoji:
\^0^/ \^0^/ \^0^/ \^0^/ \^0^/

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Pogo LOL...Emoji we missed u.

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\^0^/

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Fully agree with your point #5. I was more taken with their conversation and the refreshing honesty between them, than the kiss itself (which to be honest, looked kinda awkward lol I couldn't help thinking, this must be So's first *proper* kiss...... lmao).

Their honesty, and desire for the truth no matter how ugly the truth may be, sets up nicely as a foil to Wook and Haesu's previous relationship. HaeWook's rlsp was fluffy and sweet while it lasted, a dream that was made all the more beautiful because it was built upon empty promises in an idealised world disconnected from the pulls of harsh reality.

I love the emphasis on truthfulness/being transparent with one another here, because it ties in so beautifully with the recurrent theme of vulnerability in the HaeSo relationship.

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Wang So was adopting quite a passive stance when he wrote this poem as a reply to Su about his marriage.

行到水窮處 坐看雲起時
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