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Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: Episode 15

Our heroine finally does some stepping up this hour, and it couldn’t come at a more welcome time. Just when we thought we’d lost our eyes and ears into this strange world of princes and transparent political machinations, we get a semblance of that back with the resurgence of Su as a thinking, decision-making human being. All this action will probably end in high stakes death threats for her, but what else is new?

 
EPISODE 15 RECAP

Given the choice between saving Su or remaining faithful to the late King Hyejong, So drops his sword and drops to his knees before Yo. With tears in his eyes, So grits out his allegiance to the new KING JEONGJONG, third monarch of Goryeo.

We get a flashback of a young Crown Prince Mu, an equally young Astronomer Choi, and a tiny So (before he was scarred). Astronomer Choi had reassured Mu that he had the star of a king, but he’d asked Mu what he would do if his lifeline didn’t last very long.

The young prince had claimed that the length of his life wasn’t as important as who he spent his final days with, proving that he had a good temperament even as a child. That’s when So Lite chimed in to say that he wanted to become king too, and Astronomer Choi told him not to worry—he would also become king.

In the present, Astronomer Choi looks down at the pitiful corpse of King Hyejong and calls upon the other princes to respectfully see to his remains. Elsewhere in the room, Su whispers for So to rise to his feet, claiming that all of this happened because of her.

In answer, So drags her out of the palace, only to be stopped by ninth prince Won. Won delightfully informs him that under the new king’s command, if Su were to somehow disappear from Damiwon, then he’d spread the news throughout Goryeo that she poisoned the late King Hyejong.

There’s turmoil over at tenth prince Eun’s home as King Jeongjong seeks to solidify his power by ridding himself of his pesky brother. Eun and his wife have already escaped though, so the king returns to the palace to commend Wook on his evil deeds. Apparently, it was Wook who advised him to use Su to keep So in check.

The king’s uncle, Minister of the Left Wang Shik-ryeom, bids Wook to kneel before his new king. Wook keeps his poker face on as he does so, repeating the same chants of “Manseh!” as So did earlier.

King Jeongjong sits on the throne he coveted for so long, decreeing that Eun must be found in order for their plot (of making Eun’s grandfather seem as though he was planning a revolt, or something) to work. I love how Wook is all, “If only we knew a hunting dog skilled in matters like these…”

Eun’s grandfather Wang Gyu is caught and executed, along with other members of Eun’s family. Queen Sinmyeongsunseong watches the butchery and smiles her biggest smile yet, since she couldn’t be any prouder of her son. I’m officially convinced that this woman is the devil.

However, what King Jeongjong says next takes her by surprise: He wants her out of palace affairs, which he’ll take care of from now on. She can just live comfortably, which is not what the new Queen Mother wants.

She’s especially incensed that King Jeongjong is even entertaining the idea of keeping So around, despite Jeongjong’s claims that So saved his life by holding back when he stabbed him on the edge of the cliff. He gives So the mission Wook not-so-subtly hinted at: Find Eun and kill him. If he doesn’t, then he’ll be putting Baek-ah, Astronomer Choi, and even Su in danger.

After So’s gone, the king proves that he’s not grateful at all to So for saving his life, and finds the sympathy So showed him upsetting. As to why he’s keeping him around, he tells his mother that it’s more fun to try taming him for now.

So tells Grand General Park and Astronomer Choi of the new mission the king’s given him, but leaves out the part about killing both Eun and his wife. Since Soon-deok is General Park’s daughter, he warns So that he won’t stand by and let his daughter get caught up in a fight amongst princes.

Later, So pulls Su aside to tell her that it’s now common knowledge that the king died from mercury poisoning, but no one knows who the culprit is. He wants her to lay low for the time he’ll be out of the palace, and tells her to go to Astronomer Choi if she’s in danger.

Su knows enough to guess that she’s been used against So for the mission he has to go on, but he simply pats her on the head and tells her not to worry about it before he pulls her into a farewell embrace.

Despite knowing that only she and Chae-ryung attended to the king, and despite Chae-ryung’s immediately suspicious protestations that it most definitely wasn’t her, Su doesn’t suspect her in the slightest. There goes that.

But when Chae-ryung tells her that Eun’s entire family was killed, Su has a dramatic flashback to what So just told her about having to leave the palace to hunt down a traitor. She knows now that he was talking about Eun and panics.

She shuffles around listlessly afterward, only seeming to come back to reality when Soon-deok approaches her, disguised as a court lady. Since Eun trusts Su, they tell her that they only need to hide in her room until they can prepare safe passage out. Su promises to do what she can to help them.

Poor Eun still thinks that he can get help from his brothers, but it’s Su who puts a stop to that line of thinking when she reveals that So’s been sent to find him. She carefully sidesteps around telling him what’s happened to his family, and thankfully, he’s blissful in his ignorance. Soon-deok seems to know much more, but of course, she’d be mad to tell him now.

Evil minister Park Young-gyu is in attendance as Woo-hee tries to broker a deal with the new king for the benefit of the starving people of the Later Baekje region. King Jeongjong seems wary of her claims that she no longer has revenge on her mind, and proposes a different deal, one that would be more beneficial to him. (We don’t get to hear what it is.)

While at a tavern with So, Baek-ah makes it clear that he doesn’t trust or respect their new king, and worries whether So actually plans to capture Eun and take him back. “You don’t trust me either,” So says ruefully, causing Baek-ah to backpedal quickly. He’s managed to track down four boats that Eun and his wife could take, but he doesn’t know which of them they will take yet.

Woo-hee finds the two half-brothers and exchanges pleasant greetings with So, who knows that Su will be happy to see her. But it’s when Woo-hee says that she’ll return to the gyobang that Baek-ah sputters, and he doesn’t seem soothed when she tells him that she won’t be a gisaeng, but just a dance instructor. As they talk, the sinister Minister Park watches.

So confronts Wook over the very suspicious events surrounding their late brother’s death, explaining that the plot to poison him with mercury for two years was much too detailed for someone like Won to come up with. It could’ve only been Wook, and the fact that the king hasn’t killed him means that he’s working with Jeongjong.

Wook forces a smile as he claims that So has always been suspicious of him, and throws back So’s accusation that he killed their brother with one of his own: “How about you? Are you going to become the king’s dog and kill Eun?”

He claims that they’re both just struggling to survive, causing So to ask what changed him. “I did not poison the late king,” Wook finally says. It doesn’t seem like So believes him.

Since Su’s been called to tend to him, Jeongjong asks her what she would do if she were tortured for a confession about the mercury in the bathwater, which she denies having any part of. Su manages to win some points when she says that she would blame it on him, even if she died doing so.

Impressed, King Jeongjong interestingly notes that she’s the same as she used to be when she was younger (interesting because no one seems to mention that the actual Su had a past), and assures her that he won’t get rid of the only leverage he has over his brothers.

With that in mind, Su asks him to divulge who the real culprit was just to sate her curiosity—she won’t be able to tell anyone anyway, since all Jeongjong would have to do is accuse her of killing the king to make her disappear.

Before he can answer, Wook’s entrance is announced, and Jeongjong smiles wickedly as he says that Wook arrived right on time. Su just got her answer, and she can’t control her expression as she turns to look at Wook. Jeongjong just fans the flames by telling Wook that Su is simply dying to know who poisoned the king, and gets a kick out of Wook falsely claiming that the king died of an illness.

Once they’re outside, Su seems to already know the answer when she asks Wook whether he had any hand in the poisoning. It seems like she’s testing to see whether he’d lie to her directly, but the scene abruptly cuts to Queen Sinjeong tearing into Wook for his latest string of traitorous decisions.

“Is it because of Hae Su?” the queen asks. Much to her dismay, Wook answers, “Yes. I did think of her. It is because of her. Su said I tried to have everything for myself, and that that was wrong. But what of it? I tried to protect my family and my heart. What’s so wrong about that? Mother, you told me to live a proper life, and I lived my life that way. So… why am I still lonely?”

With tears in his eyes and on his cheeks, Wook claims that he’s already chosen the path he has to follow. He will get what he wants even if it means taking a different path than what he once intended: “I will no longer lose what I desire like a fool.”

Cut back to him and Su (oh, it was a flashback) as he flatly tells her, “I have done nothing wrong.”

So finds Su after hearing about her meeting with the king, though she assuages his fears by telling him that the king has no plans to kill her or kick her out of the palace. So knows it’s because the king plans to use her to manipulate him, but he’s just happy she’s safe for now.

In stark contrast to Wook, So comes clean to Su about being sent to hunt Eun down when she broaches the topic. Even though the king wants Eun dead, So says he’ll do whatever he can to help Eun escape, though that doesn’t jive with the premonition Su had about So cutting Eun down in cold blood.

So wonders whether he can keep trusting Astronomer Choi, since he didn’t even know that Yo would become king. Choi admits as much, but claims that Yo was born with the star of a traitor, so there must have been some deviation along the way that caused him to change course and become king. They’re not going to try and blame this on Su, are they?

Wook keeps repeating the words of warning Su once gave him about So, since he now feels like her prophecy is coming true—everything is becoming So’s, and Wook can’t stop him. “What should I do?” he wonders.

Despite Soon-deok’s best(?) efforts to blend in as a court lady, Jung is able to recognize her by her quick reflexes. Luckily, he’s Team Eun, and joins in on their plans to get Eun and his wife safely out of the palace. Since all the ways out are closed, Su remembers the secret tunnel beneath the palace.

Soon-deok wants to see her father before she leaves, but Su doesn’t think that’s a good idea—it’d put her too close to So. Soon-deok asks why Su doesn’t trust So considering the relationship they have, seeming to trust So more than Su does.

Her words, along with King Taejo’s “Do not get so hung up on the future that you lose what you have now” advice causes Su to admit that Soon-deok is right about trusting So. She volunteers to fetch Astronomer Choi herself, which she was reluctant to do before because of his ties to So, and ends up leaving him a note when he isn’t in his tower. That’s safe.

Jung and Soon-deok work together to clear the rocks blocking the secret tunnel, and he seems mildly discomfited by her constantly brushing her sweat-soaked hair away. He gives her a hairpin of Su’s to hold her hair back, causing her to wonder if the pin belongs to the woman he loves.

He smiles as he admits that the hairpin’s owner risked her life for him, specifically remembering the time Su saved him from those thugs in the forest by waving a stick around. Admitting that he fell in love with her when he saw her sing, he now admits that he hopes that she’ll only sing for him one day. Aww.

Soon-deok can relate to him, having felt the same feelings once herself. She describes her childhood (as we see it in flashback), claiming that she was always different from the other girls because she didn’t like the same girly things. That’s when Eun Lite offered her a ring made of flowers, which she happily accepted.

In the present, Soon-deok tells Jung to have courage when it comes to the woman he loves. She’ll be cheering him on, but Jung gives himself his own cheer: “Fighting!” Cute.

Princess Yeonhwa pays a formal visit to the new King Jeongjong, deliberately showing off the ring he once gave her. Jeongjong laughs at the sight of it, and tells her that he’ll be sending her off to the Khitan to be married. “Congratulations on your marriage, Yeonhwa-ya.”

Yeonhwa can’t help but wonder why it is that everyone who sits on that throne tries to control her through marriage: “You must believe there is no better way to control a woman other than marriage. I’m disappointed in you.” But Jeongjong reminds her that her brother betrayed him, so he can’t very well accept her as his queen.

Now that the Jeongjong avenue is closed, Yeonhwa thinks about So, and how he already proclaimed to love someone else. Left with no other options, all she can do is cry.

Because Eun is suffering from cabin fever so badly, Soon-deok allows him one excursion to the baths, since those aren’t occupied at night. Eun tries to get some while he’s at it, but Soon-deok avoids his grasps for her clothes.

She’s wowed when Eun makes her a rabbit out of a towel, so he decides to make all sorts of things for them to play with, which includes two toy boats that they use to race against each other. When Eun wins (because she let him), he prepares to give her a smack on the inside of her wrist, only to notice that her wrist is already reddened from him doing that too much. Yikes. At least he refrains this time.

Soon-deok then gifts him with his favorite slingshot, which she managed to take with them despite all the chaos. Eun admits that he never wanted to be a prince, and Soon-deok says that they’ll be able to live out their dreams freely once they move to the island of Tamra.

Eun returns the favor by giving his wife an ornament to wear, though at first, she thinks he’s gotten it for Su. Embarrassed, he says that it was for her, and repeats the same words he’d said when he gave her the flower ring as children about “all pretty girls” liking such things.

Of course, Eun is quick to say that she’s just okay and not necessarily pretty, but Soon-deok is so overcome with happiness that she kisses him. Then, she suddenly grows paranoid that kissing could make her pregnant, causing Eun to maturely note that they should’ve lived happily like this from the very beginning. But now, it’s business time.

Yeonhwa comes to the baths looking for Su the next day, and like Chae-ryung, she takes notice of all the homemade toys suddenly lying about. She orders Su to leave So immediately, and claims that she can get Su married out to a decent family.

Su says that the reason she wants to marry So (and not just into any good family) is because he makes her feel like she’s worth something, adding that she has no reason to leave him as long as he stays true to her.

“Now I know why I’ve always hated you,” Yeonhwa grits out. “Feelings and marriage are just silly games to you. It isn’t life and death for you like it is for me.” After promising to make Su pay for her refusal to bend to her wishes, Yeonhwa storms off.

Wook advises King Jeongjong to get rid of So as soon as possible, but even the king has enough sense to know that it’s too soon for him to act without arousing suspicion. In that case, Wook claims his only chance is to drive a wedge between So’s two biggest allies: General Park and Astronomer Choi.

Yeonhwa barges in unannounced and intent on making a deal: If they like what she has to say, then she doesn’t have to be married off. It’s only revealed in a scene with her and So that Yeonhwa revealed Eun’s hiding place, having recognized the towel-animals in the Damiwon bath as his doing.

Su sees Eun and Soon-deok to the secret entrance of the cave and tells them that Jung will be waiting for them on the other side. Soon-deok thanks her, and Eun says he’ll see her when he returns, which seem like some famous last words if there ever were any.

Before they can enter the tunnel, Jung comes rushing out to tell them to run—there are guards everywhere. He’ll hold them off for as long as he can.

Su tries to find another escape route, but they’re surrounded by the sounds of swords and screams. Soon-deok tells Su to take Eun, assuring him that they won’t dare to kill her, a general’s daughter. I don’t think she honestly believes it, but she wants Eun to so that he can escape.

Despite Su’s best efforts to drag him away, Eun refuses to leave his wife. “What can I do?” he sighs. “I am all she has.”

And then, he pulls himself from Su’s grasp. She can only look after him with tears in her eyes.

 
COMMENTS

Huzzah, Su did something! It’s amazing what a difference a little proactivity makes, since I suddenly found myself invested in her story this episode. And all it took was for her to have things she wanted to accomplish! How hard was that?

But in all seriousness, it really did feel like she was wandering around without goals or anything she necessarily wanted, which made it intensely difficult for me to get on board with pretty much anything she was doing. And on a much larger scale, I still don’t know what she wants out of her time here in Goryeo, and found it somewhat confusing that she suddenly reverted back to fearing So based on her still unexplained premonition. And then she reverted back to not fearing him based on other people’s advice, which was a bit disappointing—I would’ve liked for her own feelings about So to dictate how she felt about him, rather than other people having to remind her that she should trust him based off her feelings.

On a smaller episodic scale though, I was just happy that I could finally follow her, though I’m wary of trusting the show to keep delivering on the Su front after they let us down following that epic Court Lady Oh episode. Still, we’re at that stage in the game where we have to take what we can get, so I’ll take Su finally thinking for herself and even (gasp) defending herself. Against a king, no less! And I could completely buy that she’d do whatever she could to save Eun because he was her first friend in Goryeo, so giving her that common goal with both Eun and Jung went such a long way toward making her more relatable to us.

Even without Su’s premonition, dramas have taught us that hope is bad, and too much of it will kill you. So when we started spending a disproportionate amount of time with Eun and Soon-deok while they planned their escape, we pretty much knew that they were doomed. The show only cemented that fact by suddenly giving tons of screen time to the couple, which for once, was actually bearable. Most of that credit belongs to Soon-deok, who’s simply way too good for Eun—and the tragedy is that he didn’t realize what a saint of a wife he had until it was too late.

And though Jung’s been pretty low on the princely totem pole up until now, his role’s been increasing these past few weeks, and I actually like where we’ve ended up with him. His one-sided crush on Su is likely going to bite him and us in the behind later, but the show was smart to use its one remaining and uncommitted prince (Baek-ah’s sort of been decommissioned with whatever it is Woo-hee’s still around for) to help move the plot along. Even though everyone’s pretty much had a crush on Su by now, I really felt for Jung and his innocent, pure love for our heroine in ways that I never felt for Eun when he was in the throes of his one-sided love. Maybe it’s easier because we know what’ll happen to Eun even if I’m dreading whatever Su-related reasons the show might cook up to justify it, but not knowing what’ll happen to Jung is much more frightening.

At least Yo is making for a more entertaining king than his predecessor, though I couldn’t be more disinterested with the political machinations in this show. It feels like they’re checking the boxes for the basic requirements needed to make a fight for the throne seem appealing, but the story’s been so erratic when it comes to the succession of kings that it’s hard to really drum up interest when everyone on the throne or hovering directly around it is terrible. Yes, that means you too, Wook.

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Ok after seeing the episode and the next week's preview im sure im gonna die of anticipation!!!
Each and every time these guys are doing the same thing...
On each odd number episodes they are showing the most interesting episode preview!!!

Even though i started to hate Yeon Hwa in the earlier episodes this episodes made it that
i won't give her any other chance to watch the scenes where she was in!!!
Seriously girl if you want to be loved by a prince select a single one don't try to take all the princes to yourself!!!

Wook how come you say to your brother that he is a dog???
Seriously you are making it harder for me to watch you in the episodes!!!
And for all the idiotic you made how can you blame HaeSoo???

Why cant Soo belive in So!!! she sould have told him that she have Eun and the bride!!!
If he had known he would have done something from the begining!!! you are complicating things to So!!!
Seriously girl you are from the future!!! eventhough the previous king said you to do nothing and watch you shouldn't do that!!!

In chinese version isn't only the 10th prince got the happy ending???
So why change it now? Eventhoough i didn't like him in the earlier episodes..... this is not right to kill him :(

When i saw the next week's preview i felt so sad to So!!!
Can't these people see that he is starting to break down!!!
How come no one seeing that??? Why is every one trying to break him???
Poor So!!! I hate all of them who is trying to break my prince!!!
And the expression in Jung's face!!!

I CANT WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEKKKKK!!! YOU GUYS ARE KILLING US WITH YOUR SUSPENCES!!!

And thank you for the recap!!!

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Yeon Hwa...make up your mind! You want to date your brothers, kill your brothers, marry your brothers, betray your brothers?!!! Someone needs to set this girl up on a blind date..stat!

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She wants to date and marry the throne, that's her problem...

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It changes everytime she gets a hint as to who will take the throne..

She was happy in Wook camp,
Yo came back, so she went after Yo
And then Wook in his pondering mode uttered the words that HS said So would cause trouble and he is making EVERYTHIGN HIS OWN.. darn ran the princess to 4th prince asking him to marry him again :P

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The throne shakes up her sense of security. I actually pity her, from what she said, she hated Su because for Su marriage=love while for her it means life and death. I think she wants love too, and she really likes So not just because of the throne. She's just like Wook they both want love but have to put that aside so that they can live safely. Worse for her since as a woman she doesn't officially have much power but it's admirable how she fights her way through.

I hate both her and Wook but pity them at the same time, if only they have been born as commoners.

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@EZ, I think that scene with YH asking So to marry her was a flashback. She felt devastated being promised to Khitan and thought she couldn't even go to So to save her since he already said he loved someone else. Despite her evil front she is still longing fo someone like So to rescue her.

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I agree, there really is a part that I can't deny but help feel sorry for Yeon Hwa and the princes. A lot of the problems within the palace should be handled by the grown ups, however, no one really fits the bill in this case.

You have 2 queens, 1 is power hungry and heartless, the other is meek but caring. Both don't really do squat for the people of Goryeo so you'd expect them to be all out motherly to their children, but they fell short in that category too.
Then you have an astronomer who can only do so much as influence by means of astrology. A general that awaits for orders, a previous King that handled most of the political issues but fell short of being a better father, a handful of political advisers and their cronies with their own sets of agendas and a Sanggun that deserved way better treatment. Really, what happened to all the grown ups?
So I can't help but feel sorry that people like Yeon Hwa, Wook, Won, Yo and the rest of Taejo's Brady Bunch turn out that way.

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Then, she should join the game of throne instead... ^^

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I've been meaning to ask....
Even cousin marriage is looked down upon in Korea, right? But isn't Yeon Hwa Yo and So's half-sister? Father side? So how can they propose marriage? Isn't that like... Incest?

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It's common practice in those days for half-siblings to marry each other. To them, it's a practical solution of keeping the power within the family.

I don't think they were thinking about 'genetic mutations' or anything scientific.

It's a political thing. Better to consolidate the power, keep it among themselves than to let outsiders in.

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Oh~okay. Thanks!

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Her mother was cast out for something she didn't do when Yeon-hwa was young, and that had an enormous impact on her. She wants to be in a position where she (feels she) is secure and has power and control, instead of being at the mercy and whims of others. She's a woman in a world where women have no agency and very little, if any, control over their lives. Their value lies entirely in how good a marriage they can make and the number of sons they give birth to. Their entire lives, they're under the control of men. I totally understand her wanting stability, security, power, and control over her position and her life. I don't approve of how she's trying to achieve her goal of (hopefully) marrying power, but I can't blame the woman for wanting to. It's too bad she didn't learn another lesson from her mother being cast out: even queens tumble. There's no such thing as security at the top, and Yeon-hwa would do well to keep that in mind.

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Yeon Hwa is being the brat that she is. That's given

BUT WHY IS SERIOUSLY NO ONE TALKING ABOUT CHAE RYUNG's LYING FACE???!! I swear that girl deserves whatever form of physical torture they got going on in the palace.

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I know. I'm a poor liar, but compared to her I have Loki's silver tongue. As flustered as she was, she may as well have just admitted outright she was the one who put the mercury in the water.

I found it interesting that, last episode, Yo said Moo had been killed by mercury in the water and none of the pro-Moo people said a thing. There is no way he or Won could have known there was mercury in the water unless Won had been instrumental in it being snuck in to be added to the water. Accusing Su was, obviously, a frame-up to keep So on a leash, everyone knew it, so no one needed to comment on that. But not even one comment on Yo saying there was mercury in the bathwater? That's a weakness.

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Im surprised too.. Why Su didnt even suspect chae ryung (not even verbally), where both of them were the only one involved in attending to king bath..

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I'd have to say Soo is pretty unintelligent herself, though. I mean...when there are only TWO people dealing with the king's bath, and you didn't put mercury in, it's only logical that the only other candidate to put mercury is the other guy. Duh!

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Soo is either too naive to suspect that her trusted bff could do such a thing or is in deep denial of the possibility. She's been the victim of the blame game too often so maybe she wants to give Chae Ryung the benefit of "innocent until proven guilty". Then again, doesn't Soo have major trust issues to begin with, why let your guard down now? Didn't her bff from the modern era betray her as well?

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Small detail I caught (I could be wrong) was that YH was wearing the same hanbok when she made her proposal to So and when she flashed that big ol' ruby at Yo. Or at least it was damn near the exact same color.

Home girl needs to retire that outfit/color from her wardrobe lol, it never goes well for her when she wears it. :P

On a more serious note, it's funny isn't it, that even a Princess has basically as much freedom as any regular court lady or slave? Sure she may have a cushier life, but just like everyone she basically lives or dies at the whims of the King. YH at least tries to fight her lot in life (with MUCH collateral damage along the way) but I think unlike Su who is heavily invested in trying to preserve the lives of others as well as her own, for YH, her life is numero uno...with her mother, So and Wook coming distantly or shortly after depending on how desperate she is.

Quite sad really.

But still not forgiving her for ratting on on Eun and Seon Dook. That's like the equivalent of drowning puppies/kittens YH, have a heart? Or resurrect the shriveled up bean that seems to exist in your chest?

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I thought "someone needs to set this girl up on fire" that will be much better.

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I say marry Yeon Hwa off in a less than desirable match - she deserves it for her traitorous machinations!

And Wook - why did you have to turn so evil. ? Characters like him who get so defeated by loss, it is just tears me up.

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In chinese version isn’t only the 10th prince got the happy ending???

but there's never been any talk in the Chinese version of 10th
being dead,
other prince that died as in history as ruoxi remembered all end up the same, died,
so this is consistent, just escalated poorly, very very poorly

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i can't believe this, if Eun dies who else will have their happy ending...

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Yeon Hwa dearest?

She'll get everything she wants: Queen position and So.

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not really So, yes she'd be married to him but she won't ever obtain his heart

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I think she'd rather have the throne than his heart, if she had to choose. I don't think she really loves him, or anyone. Do you think she'll get more twisted and crazy, like a Queen Yoo 2.0?

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yea sometimes i'm confused about yeonhwa, sometimes i think she does love So and sometimes i think she doesn't.

Well one thing is for sure, she only loves herself, and maybe her mom

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I think she loves both.

She wants the throne. desperately.

But she has a soft corner for WS. And now she sees how he is going all out for someone he loves while she is being tossed aside by everyone. So she wants that security.

Bec right now WS has no power. He is treated like a hunting dog. But she still tells HS to forget WS. Why ? She won't benefit from a marriage with him. But she wants his love, his devotion. She wants to have that one person who will go to any lengths to protect her.

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Well if So can give YH 5 / 3 kids 'natural' way..
She pretty much 'got' So

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@EZ

Ugh let's not go there, I don't even want to think about it. T_T

In real history I think So liked Yeonhwa since he's only had kids with her. Funny how like in all dramas, Yeonhwa plays the evil 2nd female lead, eg Shine or Go Crazy..

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If she has to be queen, she must do something..even at least one act that would at least atone for her evil deeds..that way, i can accept her as queen.

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I believe she really does love So as much as her selfish heart could allow... which is not much.

So is never gonna be her first priority, but if she can have him she'd be over the moon.

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I think she's always the villain because she's related to So. It's a taboo for modern times to marry your half sister so I suppose it's why she's shown as the villain.

I'd actually really like to see a drama where yeonhwa is the illegitimate daughter or something and then her story with so, she'd make a really good heroine because she's smart and she got So in the end.

After all she was the only queen he had kids with.

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Okay first of all this drama does not follow the chinese one scene for scene so why people still feel the need to compare then is beyond me, second maybe no one actually watches the episodes but there is a disclaimer before everyone that says the drama is taking a CREATIVE approach to the historical facts. So once again that being said you can surmise that they won't be following history to the letter. Maybe I'll eat my words but I don't think the drama will have So marrying HY, he was already very upset about marrying the tiny princess because Su doesn't want multiple wives. They are already hinting that Su affected history when she said that nonsense to Wook, so by the 4th prince falling in love with her, he may not marry who he naturally would have in history.

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@kdramafanatic: "I think she’s always the villain because she’s related to So. It’s a taboo for modern times to marry your half sister so I suppose it’s why she’s shown as the villain...After all she was the only queen he had kids with."

You know, the same thing happened in the King Arthur story. He had an affair with his half-sister (Morgause or Morgan le Fay), had a child (Mordred), and she is branded as the villain, and their child was supposed to be twisted and evil (probably as a result of their union). Yet somehow Arthur got off scot-free with a reputation as not just a good king, but one of the very best. I don't think he had kids with Guinevere, either.

@bips99:"I think she loves both. She wants the throne. desperately. But she has a soft corner for WS.

I agree she has a soft spot for Wang So, but that's as far as it goes, at this point (in my opinion). She still wants to use him as a chess piece or for her own security.

@nchoe:"I believe she really does love So as much as her selfish heart could allow… which is not much."

Pretty much this!

"So is never gonna be her first priority, but if she can have him she’d be over the moon."

But she could have had him earlier, don't you think? She always just kept him on the shelf as a strategic backup. She is very jealous of Hae Soo, though; Yeon Hwa wants everything and wants Hae Soo to have nothing. It's a zero-sum game for Yeon Hwa, as far as Hae Soo is concerned.

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@hana I hope you're right, I really do

@Jamie Ah... correction: If she can have both throne and So... she'd be over the moon

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Didn't mean to come off so snappish , it just gets annoying that every episode people are saying but the Chinese one did this and the Chinese one does that. Then go watch the Chinese version! I have watched the original and I enjoyed it and I am also enjoying this drama. I'm fairly certain there was a disclaimer at some point saying not to talk about the Chinese version anymore but people still do. We also have to deal with modern audiences and most people don't want the male lead marrying the "villain". I think they will find a way to avoid it, at some point HY will have to pay for her schemes and when she does all the trauma she put Su through would make her So's enemy. He wouldn't marry a woman who tried to have Su murdered as a traitor ( poison cup ). Per historical dramas they could have them married and HY executed when her misdeeds are revealed, hence killing two plot birds with one stone. History is played out she is his wife but So would once again be single to marry Su.

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In Goryeo history, the 10th prince's grandfather plotted to put him on the throne and their whole family were executed. So following Goryeo history, the 10th prince in the kdrama may not get a happy ending unlike the Chinese version.

Since the k version is adapted to Goryeo history, so the drama weaved in the Goryeo historical events cleverly and not poorly!

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I mean the build up in the drama is poorly, very poorly,
it doesn't relate to external info we get from the history,
the drama never makes him has those grandfather plot and anything,

I find, bring the Chinese version as source is not believable since they didn't follow the exact plot for every brother there except the changing heart between 8th, 4th and female lead in the surface look

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I think the build up to the drama is done OK. It does relate to external info from history, and Eun's grandfather's involvement in court politics already started since last episode. If you are not familiar with Goryeo history, you may not have understood what is going on.

The production has already said that this is adapted to Goryeo history, so they will not follow the exact plot for every prince, because Chinese & Goryeo history, kings and princes are not the same in the first place.

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---------If you are not familiar with Goryeo history, you may not have understood what is going on.--------------

that's why it poor, a good drama doesn't need me to do all the background check on them just to realised what logic and what's going on, they need to present it as their part of story, or at least gave enough hint that doesn't need me to google it,

as a casual watcher, it's nice to see some trivia like poem meaning or etc but to fill the blank with speculation than to admit the show has no logic is delusional imo,
why is it so hard to just said that this drama is wrong and not defend it,
because people afraid that enjoyed flaw things degrades them?
every time someone pointed the flaw, no one accept it and said that people are just jealous and a hater, also
"this make a great discussion...."

ps : many saeguk can tell this things and ML can, so why the excuses??
so many excuses

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Will SU marry SO or not?? as per Goryeo History..

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so, there's a big chance that Eun wont die. That'll be better plus, I saw z. hera's photo bts where she's pregnant.

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In the chinese version 10th prince gets the same fate. 14th prince is the one that gets a relatively happy ending.

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what? no, 10th prince had a happy ending, him and his wife were expecting a baby and were happy about their lives. i wouldn't say 14th prince had a happy ending, at least he didn't die unlike most of his brothers

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The story should change since its based on korean history. The 10th prince got killed but im not sure if the 4th prince killed him or not

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which i have been meaning to ask to those who have watched the Ch-drama version..

How close are the two versions?
How much has the Kdrama version deviated from the original?

At the rate things are going I'm preparing myself for a heart break because i see a glimmer of hope for everyone.

I need something to keep me afloat, a little of hope that there will be some happy ending.

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4th prince will kill the 10th prince, that's a given -- perhaps because the king make him choose: either his lover or his half-brother. Or perhaps to test his loyalty?

And 14th prince will be made to watch his childhood playmate die in the hands of his brothers (one literally and the other figuratively). Sadly maybe Hae Soo will witness that too.

Don't expect a happy ending in this show -- Hae Soo does not exist in historical fact. She either dies in the past (like the book originally intended) or dies & returns to the future (the Chinese TV version changed it to lead to the sequel.)

One more spoiler: Yeon Hwa will become queen. My guess is she will shock Hae Soo by reminding her of what she told the 8th prince: "Beware of the 4th prince."

This is crucial because in the Chinese version, the same girl realized that she's the one who pivoted history with this very sentence -- as reminded by the 8th prince's main wife.

Only time will tell if I'm correct :)

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I bet they've given the happy ending to the 13th prince instead. :(

I'm hoping since they deviated from the Chinese version, that Hae Soo and Wang So would have a happy ending. Unfortunately, I don't think they will tho. (T_T)

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Problem is we don't know what deal the 13th prince's girlfriend strikes with the devil to relieve the famine faced by her people. That might come back & bite them both.

In the preview to Ep-16, the 14th prince promises to kill him (I am speculating the king? with whom he shares the same mother) as he is mad with grief.

If 14th prince did, then Wang So becomes king by default -- it seems that will happen in Ep-17. That will be the ultimate karma on the evil Dowager Empress, don't you think? One favorite son kills the other favorite and the son she dislikes becomes king.

It seems Hae Soo will marry the Wang So (hence the 8th prince smashes the bracelet he once gave her) and becomes pregnant. But I am guessing she will lose the baby (because Yeon Hwa will traumatise her) and unable to conceive again because of the past hardship she suffers on her body. Is that why Wang So will eventually marry Yeon Hwa to have descendants or is it simply to consolidate power, or both?

Again I am just speculating as I do not write the script.

I simply cannot figure out what would force Wang So to have to give Hae Soo up ultimately. It has to be something which even as king, he cannot defy -- like in the Chinese version.

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In the very 1st episode, when the princes gathered and were laughing merrily, the astronomist suddenly showed a moment sadness as he looks at the carefree young princes. How true, how sad.

Again, I believe there's no happily ever after for any of them, so we'll just have to enjoy what happy moments left and be prepared for a sad ending. Sigh!

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The most frustrating thing in this episode is bloody 10th prince and his romance. They were on the freaking runaway, yet Seon-deok believe that she can just disguise herself and walk around Damiwon like nobody knows who she is? And what with the bath scenes? Shouldn’t they be worried about their lives and stay put in Soo’s room 24/7, not having little date? And if they do have date at the bathhouse, wth leave freaking evidences around without cleaning up? Eun can be stupid, but what happened to the perceptive Seon-deok that put survival before everything else? For a second, I think that their deaths is not that tragic at all, they brought it upon themselves

And Woohee subplot?? Wut? She could have asked Mu to help her people, why would she sudden put on the noble princess show “oh, I care for my people so I should ask Yo to help, coz you know, he might consider our past partnership in killing the king”. I thought her motivation was revenge on the Wangs, not some dealership. And does her part of this deal is that to frame Baek-ah somehow? Or kill him? And also drag So into the mud? And she agreed after all that 3 years romance?

And conveniently, Soo futureish vision return? Coz plot demand? So that she would not trust So enough to tell him about 10th hideout? And can’t she freakin compare that her vision is about So killing, but what actually happened was due to Yo? No? Like the new King death? And gosh, she couldn’t freaking figured out that she been betrayed by Chaeryeong? Even after mentioning that ONLY THE TWO of them can access everything for the Kin bath, wasn’t that a simple deduction? Its not me, it must be her moment?

I really want to call QUIT to this drama now

Probs to Yo in showing how a new King would deal with his political obstacles, either kill them or exile them. Unlike Mu, freaking 2 years and it seemed like no1 were punished for being Yo’s supporter during the 1st revolt. And Yo being King probably has to do with Soo timetravel. My theory is that Jimong timetravel alter some part of history, and with Soo timetravel, history is distorted even more that Yo was able to ascend the throne.

Wook totally consumed by darkness, haunted by Haesoo warning, he was the one told Yo to use Soo so don’t say he loves her. Give kinda give off psycho vibe when he kept repeating Soo warning

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I totally get what you're saying!!! It's so frustrating! we wrote a whole post about it: https://thedramafilesblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/file-no-moon-lovers-scarlet-heart-ryeo-ep-15/

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oh, thanks a lot, I will be reading it now, to let off some steam

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"Wook totally consumed by darkness"

Yes. He even wears black garb now.

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That and his eyeliner game was really strong.

I think it's for our heroine to distinguish between who's good and evil, because let's face it apart from make up Su is clueless about everything.

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Meh, nothing defeat the

JAFAR IS BAACK

style of Yo.

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Hahaha! From Lion King to Jafar, whom will Yo channel next? ^_^

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Hahahahahaha. JAFAR IS BACK. I am dying.

These comments are why I read recaps and watch previews for this show even tho I don't and won't follow it.

I have been side eyeing Yo's guyliner and accessories, but Jafar is accurate.

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Wait, he applies eyeliner too? Totally missed that.

Well, the transformation's complete then.

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That scene with Chae-ryung though:

Hae Soo: You and I were the only people to attend to the King's baths. Who could of possibly added the mercury?
Chae-ryung: It wasn't me!
Hae Soo: huh?

Me: FACEPALMS. IT TAKES TIME TRAVEL TO GET A HEROINE WITH SUCH A POOR SENSE OF LOGICAL DEDUCTION.

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I'm telling you, it's got to be the mercury fumes.

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Hahahah, I totally get you @Ren. At that scene, I too was shaking my head in utter disbelief at Su, because COME ON MY DARLING. The only way Chae-Rung could have looked more guilty is if there had been a giant neon sign blaring it on top of her head. And even then, I am afraid our girl Su would probably just put on her sunglasses and ignore that too haha.

But...I sort of get it though? It's one of Su's greatest strengths/flaws IMO...when this girl trusts you, she's with you till the end, or at least until you you swindle, cheat on her or when you try to use her to murder her problematic, moody, best friend/future boyfriend of a Prince. There are some lines that must not be crossed you know.

It's very similar to how hard it was for her to give up/believe anything bad of Wook. He was there in the beginning when she was dropped into Goryeo and he was basically her support structure and the same goes for Chae Rung and Myung-Hee. I'm actually a little relieved now that Myung-Hee exited so early, when she was still a saint because if she had gone the way of mean princess, that's yet ANOTHER person Hae Su would slap on blinkers for, just because she was there at the worst time of her life. I think that's one of the weakest aspects of the show, IMO. They could have spent more time showing us how utterly terrifying it must have been for Su to be dropped into the past-I mean I love that she was so resilient and she bounced back fairly quickly, but if they had taken a little more time to set up just how much of that was due to help from Myung-Hee, Wook and CR then perhaps this aspect o her higher tolerance of bullshit or refusal to see the bad of people from 8th's home would be easier to understand for others.

At least that is my take on it.

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His black garb is kind-of different. It has some sort of lace on it.

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Maybe it's a metaphor that there is still some space to let the light through.

Lol

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Nice one!

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Or he desperately trying to be sensual and seductive to Soo?

Should've tried disfigurement, work better on Soo.

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@Blargh, @nyllacamphry

You guys are making me laugh, and I totally appreciate it!

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jafar + eyeliner + lace = Kang Ha Neul..

ok i'm picturing different setting now...

hahaha...

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Well Wook was whining about being all alone and JafaI'm, sorry Yo did just refuse to marry Yeonhwa....

Plus the Wook took out his new black lace robes the same time To decided to wear dangly gold earrings..

Not to forget the matching eyeliner....

Am I the only one who is seeing this?

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...aaand now it can't be unseen, lol.

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There’s a lot of ineffable stupidity in this episode. I thought Soon Deok had more survival sense (despite her crush on Eun), but from their precarious hiding place in the Damiwon she says she wants to say goodbye to her father before leaving. What? You want to die? You want your father to die? You want everyone who is helping you and that you care about to die? There’s time for that LATER, girl—get the hell out of Dodge!

And Hae Soo tells her she will contact Ji Mong to relay a goodbye: WHAT? She trusts Ji Mong now, for some reason? And worst of all she writes a freaking incriminating letter and leaves it behind?

Has everyone in the Damson been inhaling mercury fumes? What’s with the impaired thinking process?

(I won’t complain about Eun, because there’s really no expecting sense from him, is there? Poor guy.)

Also, how is plotting possible in a place with paper doors/walls?

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I must have inhaled some mercury fumes, too, because I am still enjoying this show! I am sorry you're not, though, Anh.

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I inhaled some too. I'm still loving this. If anything has changed, i hate Soo for waring Wook and not trusting So. Poor guy.

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That warning Hae Soo gave Wook was a looong time ago, though, right? Years ago: after she had her first batch of terrifying, bloody visions. I don't remember her warning him since, do you?

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Hmm. Will have to rewatch. I could've sworn it was long ago.

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Yes the warning was from long time ago, during eun's wedding. But wook had repeatedly wondered about haesoo's warning...

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I've been poisoned too, and the result is ADDICTION, lol.

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Me too.. never thought I will be soooo looking forward to Monday. Monday is no longer blue until the drama ends.

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Me three.

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same here... i'm in addiction of air borne poisonous mercury...
such a guilty pleasure !!!

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Dem mercury man! That's some good stuff.

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Mercury ain't as effective as LJG! That's some powerfully addictive stuff.

And I will breathe in deep.

They tried to make me go to rehab
But I said no, no no!

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I'm totally poisoned by mercury coz this drama is soo addictive for me.I watch snippets in instagram, behind the scenes and the drama again and again.

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@PineappleGongzhu: "Mercury ain’t as effective as LJG! That’s some powerfully addictive stuff...They tried to make me go to rehab But I said no, no no!"

You know, Amy Winehouse would fit in visually really well with this bunch: eyeliner, big teased-up beehive hair and all. Give her some robes and she could be another crazy concubine/queen!

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The warning was long ago, when she started having visions.

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Oh, this is in response to @endo about Su warning Wook about So.

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Me too, mercury fumes and whatnot. This is still the show I anticipates the most come Monday and Tuesday every week even though common sense is not so common after all in this drama. I just want to have a one-on-one talk with Hae Su or if even possible dissect her thought process.

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For me its Wang So that's causing the addiction... but the show is killing my buzz by turning him into Assassin on leash.

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"how is plotting possible in a place with paper doors/walls?"

- that's what I'm wondering. Like even in the earlier episodes when the Evil Queen was plotting against the throne with Yo and screaming at So, and NO ONE overhears ? Now where are the spies ?

And another thing. Overall, this royal complex has very few guards protecting them. In some other shows (like Faith), at least there is a quiet presence so that you get the feel of a guarded palace. Here, it feels like the royal family is rattling about the palace by themselves except for a few scenes where are a handful of guards.

Btw, I'm new to Kdramas and this is my first ever posting. Enjoying the site, recaps and discussions immensely. You guys are impressively thorough.

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Not to mention, we are supposed to believe that Soon Deok doesn't know where babies come from? Seriously? Does this mean they haven't consummated their marriage?

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it appears that SD was brought up by her father, probably on the battlefield and didn't quite learn about the birds and the bees?

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From the look of it......no. It's been three years and nothing until tonight!

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Wow. Just wow.

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Err, hello, there are those concubine that the king never touch. I mean running away from home and getting chased by soldiers do something to you. Like having one night stand with your wife just to say he won't die a virgin.

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Having gotten through a harrowing experience probably brought them closer and the possibility of either or both of them dying made them appreciate each other, in Eun's case, it made him see Seon Deok.

And, of course you know, like in action movies, being chased and running together is kinda arousing, haha!

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Seon deok is gorgeous! And so cute. Such a lovely couple. Before they're killed of course. Such tragedy.

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I always knew this show had stupid characters and there are so many times I've planned to walk away from it especially since Su gets on my nerves. Yet I'm going to find myself every Monday and Tuesday glued to this show

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Its the lure of WS..

Rather lure of a very intelligent, all rounder man falling for a non achiever average IQ EQ girl...

Lure of perfect man wholeheartedly committing to a girl who is so less deserving of her...

Doe sthat mean those Disney stories are true? WOmen at the end of the day want a rich, charming, eyes only for you, good looking, perfect all rounder of a man .. That;s that?!

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Average? That's putting it mildly. I know I'm being mean but the girl is consistent for having no common sense at all.

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Yep! Pretty much only coming back for WS. I mean, it's intense, but Hae Soon is just getting on my nerve.

She is relying on snippets of visions and is basically a walking moral tale of what she is lacking in truly returning WS's love - trust. She keeps blaming herselfout of pity rather than really admitting that she just makes insanely stupid mistakes.

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Hey, at least Su TRIED to discourage her from contacting her dad - but seriously do we think Yo wouldn't have Park Soo-kyung watched, if it was known his daughter was on the run? Even assuming the General knew enough to give them the slip?

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Yes, and I'm sure Hae Soo is being watched, too.

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I mean, Chae-ryung is RIGHT THERE.

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And perhaps the stupidest part of it all: in hiding, but still leaves around incriminating evidence of their playtime, and saunters around Damiwon without any survival sense or heck, even just basic sense to *try* to pretend to blend in like a regular ol' court lady.

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Actually im ok with her contacting her father.. Whats wrong to say last goodbye before leaving for good probably? Maybe its not suitable timing, but I assume & expect them to be smart also.. Since they are trained in battlefield, i believe its not too much to expect them to shake off all eyes like some secret agent? (they can even enter the palace to hide in damiwon with guards watching and with the burden eun somemore.. isnt that more absurd?? when jung almost got caught while entering/leaving the palace at night last ep..)

Su contacting Ji Mong to contact General Park seems reasonable too.. The astronomer and general park seems to be always together.. It would be even weirder if Su approach General herself.. As for letter, yea some sort of evidence, but we dont know what its in the letter except the recipient, i assume she's smarter than to write everything in the letter?

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I know right. Those two acting like business is like usual, all happy camper, not like people in hiding and try to save their as$e$. Guys, no, they want your heads so before it got cut off from your bodies why dont yáll try to use it for the last time? I wish they just die by the end of this ep but I guess the writers also didnt feel that urgency..meh.

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I think Woohee went to the 3rd Prince because they worked together secretly before; so she feels like he owe her a favor? I don't know. Haha.

I think she's having a flashback of her premonition?

Mu was a generous and good king, and he was kind of weak in my opinion. So I can see how Yo supporters not getting punished.

I think if you aren't enjoying the drama anymore, and you are getting so annoyed, then you should quit... You seem to have a lot of frustration with it. :(

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I am more curious about the stupid deal she made with Evil King (Wang Yo). Nothing good will ever come from where this guy is involved...

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I can't quite blame Mu since he is above all a good person at heart and having said that, we all kind of agree that he never had the "king's qualities" except that he was destined to become one. And during those two years, he was plagued by his illness and not just the plain eczema but he was going mad due to slow mercury poisoning.

Your point about Yo becoming King because of the presence of Haesoo is interesting. I still couldn't figure out why or how? Yo could still manage to snatch the throne without Wook (who turned to the dark side due to Haesoo) for sure and Haesoo definitely not impacting Yo's life and he had wanted the throne even long before Haesoo made an appearance in Goryeo. So, I am really intrigued to what's the explanation behind.

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My theory is that Yo's becoming King was not because of Hae Soo since he's in the history she remembers, i.e. he would have been king even if she did not travel back to Goryeo.

But maybe because of Ji Mong since Yo is not in the history Ji Mong remembers.

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No, HaeSoo only remembered 4th king of Goryeo from her history. She has flashbacks later of WangSo as a king or killing Eun.

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So the king that haesoo remembers is gwangjong which is 4th king. Taejo is 1st king. She should know in between there are two other kings. One is hyejong (mu).

Oh i remembered she once asked jimong, whos the next king after taejo. Jimong said hyejong. Then she asked the next one? And jimong wondered upon gwangjong..

So yeah i guess the history that jimong knows and the one that haesoo knows is slightly different in terms of jeongjong becoming king..

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he supposed to kill his bro by instance, but he the one who spare his life by not fatally injured him... thanks to Soo for that softens heart.. hmmm

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Yes, you are right. Ji Mong only saw the stars of Moo and So being King. So was supposed to inherit the throne after Moo (refer to kids scene of Moo, So and Ji Mong). But because Soo came into So's life and transformed him, So did not kill Yo, the traitor, as was expected of his character. Therefore, Yo disrupted the flow of history. But don't worry, it will go back on track again when Soo is being threatened and So will seize the throne in order to protect her.

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great observation!! I was wondering why ji mong and haesoo didn't see Yo's star when in reality, Yo was the 3rd king (of course, hence the creative disclaimer in the beginning). I was also surprised as to why all the other princes were still alive even after Yo became king.

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Yo becoming king, his star being diverted to become king because of HaeSoo is by the means of Wook. HaeSoo affected Wook and therefore Wook changed, wanted to be king, that helped Yo become king first and then betray Yo.

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Why is the 10th prince a target, apparently i am to research Korean history to get an answer...The script has skipped so may scenarios am even lost in the timeline of the story.
This drama is giving me anxiety issues...i will just wait until the last episode is aired and then get back to it since i luv Wang so...only for him!!

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I'm guessing they expected audience to know that Wang Gyu (10's grandfather) had a great deal in helping Taejo build Goryeo. 10's clan is therefore one of the (if not the) strongest clan in Goryeo. (This part seems to be quite a common knowledge for koreans i guess).

Wang Gyu had been implied to be opposing So (as seen in previous episode when Wook was reading an appeal made by Wang Gyu to send So out of palace because he was brothers with Yo the traitor). Therefore Wang Gyu is obviously opposing to Yo as well.

Since his clan is also the strongest and he has shown disapproval towards Yo, I think it makes sense that Yo would want to banish Eun's clan first

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well, even if you read the history, this drama series took a creative license that means some part of this can be untrue or just myths.

but i read korean history on wiki so far nothing change in terms of who gets to be the king next.

Moo got illed and died then followed by Yo then Wang So.

all prince got killed on history.

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Well in the drama Yo mentions that Eun must be found and killed so that they can pin the king's death on his grandfather.

Its like killing 3 birds with one arrow:

1. Yo isn't responsible for killing the Previous King and is punishing the actual party responsible for it. (Marvelous frame job of the year award. If only they could sell it better).

2. Yo is getting rid of opposition and sending message that anyone who opposes him will be dealt with (Yo suddenly has all the brains possible).

3. Having Wang So do the actually killing in order to drive a wedge between Wang So and the General (Eun's father in law) which will reduce So's power hold. (If the general kills So in revenge then even better for Yo).

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I know. Eun was never very smart, but Seon Deok prided herself in her battle skills and even being raised by a father like that, she also knew how to be a Lady. Hanging around Eun must have melted her survival instinct. Sadly, a part of me thinks they deserve it for their piss poor "hiding" skills and is looking forward to So hysterically laughing as he cuts them down.

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I guess they thought their plan was perfect that they didnt realize them relaxing a bit would end this badly. They were supposed to hide in damiwon for 3-4 days only and had managed to find the hidden and safe passage to the port. Jung would protect them in their journey out. It was their last night in damiwon and they were gonna leave early in the morning. Who would have thought that friggin princess would come and notice ><

But either way they would die anyway. Theres no way they would survive if they still stay within goryeo after their escape..

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Lol I think in a crucial time of life and death, "relaxing a bit" shouldn't really be part of that equation... in any case, if it was only 3-4 days, the logical part of me just keeps thinking, couldn't they have just practiced constant vigilance for that short few days, until they had gotten out safely?

Man, priorities, people. For someone who's been through war, Soon-deok should've known better!

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"piss poor 'hiding' skills"

HAHAHAHA YES INDEED. And not to mention, sauntering around the Damiwon all sulky and not bothering to put up appearences/manners to blend in at all.......... lol

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If you wanna quit a drama that's frustrating you, then... Quit it? Lol I've stopped many dramas that have made me mad or bored, rather than rant on about it and suffer through watching it. Unless it's one of those things where you love/hate it and therefore can't stop watching?

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Yeah...what she said...! Honestly, so much stupidity abounded in this episode, so much shabby writing, haphazard plotting, the usual slice-and-dice editing...the only reason to still watch this show is Lee Jun Ki.

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Don't you get it? The production team had the death ready for Eun x Dok couple. Baekhyun is famous, they HAD to kill him... :/ Exo always dies in their freaking dramas and movies. But that date was cute.
On the other side, it might be that they would have died anyway, thats why the production gave that couple their last sweet moment TT.TT I will miss them!

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Can I just say: HE FREAKING KNEELED FOR HER!! HE KNELEED IN FRONT OF YO!!

If that is not true love, then nothing is.....

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As you said That is true love!!!
Oh poor So!!! Poor poor So!!!

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I never wanted to shake somebody so bad as Soo. The man is being lead around by the balls to keep you safe and you don't know if you trust him??? He shows her time and time again smh

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Seriously, even AFTER that this drama is still trying to tell us she's scared of him because Gwangjong. gtfo with that!

Su's seen firsthand exactly how torn up So was over killing a brother who was out to kill them all, does she seriously believe he'd be laughing manically as he cuts down Eun....come on girl, update your visions a bit. I mean, he cried in your arms over freaking Yo, of all people, you really think he'd kill Eun as happily as your vision implies?

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