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Tomorrow With You: Episode 10

Oof. Grab a box of tissues before you watch this episode because this story is about to throw you into a whirlwind of emotions. Not only do our characters ask the right kind of questions, they’re also accompanied by honest, genuine answers we’ve been waiting to hear. Living the life of a time traveler often has its perks, but no one could have ever prepared us for the kind of consequences it could also bring.

 
EPISODE 10 RECAP

At So-joon’s admission of being a time traveler, Ma-rin laughs in disbelief and checks to see if he’s been drinking or wonders if today is some special occasion. She isn’t impressed by what he considers as proof, since it’s easy enough to search for news headlines on the internet or make lucky guesses on people’s immediate actions.

She puts aside her headache to follow his logic—if So-joon did foresee this moment in the future, what does she say next? He replies that they didn’t originally come here, but right now, he dragged her to this spot.

Ma-rin is plenty spooked and walks off, but she’s still curious about what he means by being able to see the future: “Then what about ours? What does our future look like?” So-joon says nothing, and she walks off.

Ma-rin asks more questions about time travel in the car—does he take a Delorean like Back to the Future? Or use incense sticks like Nine? She doesn’t want to stop to talk, but wonders why his fallback excuse is time travel and why he supposedly only travels to the future: “Is the future already determined? Does that make any sense?”

He can tell that she’s on the verge of tears, but Ma-rin replies that she’s laughing at the absurdity of it all, then sighs at the idea of being married to a time traveler: “Then does that make me a time traveler’s wife?”

At home, Ma-rin realizes that all of the odd items from the ramyun to the sneakers are all from the future. She joins So-joon in the living room and declares that she’ll do her best to accept the idea that he can time travel. She commands him to do it now and even gives him to the count of three to disappear.

And when he doesn’t, Ma-rin takes that as proof that he can’t travel to the future. So-joon says it doesn’t work like that, and she wonders how elaborate a lie this is. She even considers the possibility that So-joon believes in a different subjective reality and suggests that he gets help.

She’s even willing to hear the upcoming lottery numbers, but So-joon says he won the jackpot three times already. His serious and matter-of-fact tone gives her an even bigger headache, and So-joon walks up to her and wraps his arms around her.

“You knew that there was something strange about me,” he explains. He turns her around to ask, “How do you think an ordinary man could be this successful?” He asks her to think how someone could possibly run a thriving company when he barely shows up to work, and admits that the objects in their home aren’t from “this world.”

She still finds everything hard to believe, and So-joon says that he didn’t live his life a particularly special way; he may own many possessions, but at the end of the day, “I’m still just me.”

Hearing that Ki-doong is the only other person who knows about his ability to time travel, Ma-rin realizes that’s why So-joon would be over at his place so often. She then asks the burning question in our heads: “But why tell me now? Just so I’d quit my job at Happiness?”

“To protect you,” So-joon answers. “Even if you get confused or feel burdened, that’s better than putting you in danger.” Those words make her question whether something might happen to her in the future, and So-joon sits next to her and takes her hand before telling her what will happen next: “There will be an accident that involves Happiness.”

Nothing good will come from her knowing more than that, he says, so he needs her to trust him and to do what he says. She says she’ll think about it because it’s impossible for her to believe everything and yet nothing.

So-joon jots down everything he knows about the events of October 27th, and hides his notes when Ki-doong informs him that he’s made arrangements per So-joon’s request so that the construction site will be empty on that particular day. But, wasn’t the construction site practically empty in the future?

Knowing that something’s up, he asks what So-joon saw in the future to prompt everyone not to work that day. So-joon says he’ll explain later and divulges that he finally told Ma-rin the truth.

They relocate to continue this conversation outside, where Ki-doong praises So-joon for doing the right thing, but asks why he chose to do it now. He guesses the news must’ve come as a shock for Ma-rin, and jokingly asks if she asked for a divorce, chuckling at the idea of her getting divorced from a man claiming to be a time traveler and scientists experimenting on his brain.

So-joon says he’s no alien, but hopes Ma-rin doesn’t see him as one. As someone who knows So-joon’s secret, Ki-doong can relate to Ma-rin, who might be going through the same emotional stages he did—disbelief followed by cynicism, and then rage. His advice? Understand that this is a tough time for Ma-rin, and So-joon needs to be there for her.

So-joon thinks Ma-rin is stronger than that, but we see her going through those same emotions on the street, not even caring that she looks like a crazy lady in public.

Ma-rin arrives at work to learn that So-joon has anonymously arranged for a company-wide overnight trip on the 27th. She’s invited out to have coffee with Se-young, who confirms that she’s leaving that same day. Se-young asks if So-joon has an ulterior motive because he’s arranged her father to leave with her.

Ma-rin sweetly says So-joon may have thought people at Happiness would be saddened by her departure. At the mention that Se-young’s family was there for him during the toughest of times, Se-young laughs that it feels strange to be sharing secrets that only she and So-joon used to have with someone else.

They have a good chuckle about that, and Ma-rin says she can’t take those memories away from Se-young, so it shouldn’t matter if she knows or not. Se-young asks Ma-rin to look after her father, teasing that she needs to constantly keep him grounded. Aw, it’s sweet that they’re friends now.

Ma-rin calls her friend So-ri to take her to a fortuneteller, who says that Ma-rin’s forecast calls for blessings, not misfortune (and So-ri mutters that she wishes the guru could give her a happy fortune, ha). She then asks the fortuneteller’s opinion on people who believe they can time travel, and the latter says those people are attention-seekers who should get help.

But after they’re gone, the fortuneteller is bothered by how she couldn’t see anything into Ma-rin and her husband’s futures: “It’s like they’re neither dead nor alive.”

Seeing Director Kim so wound up makes Secretary Hwang wonder if his boss is headed for disaster. Turns out he’d eavesdropped in on the conversation about Director Kim possibly selling some smaller buildings to the businessman, but he pushes that thought out of his head.

He takes the executive who was whispering about Director Kim’s suspicious activities out to coffee, and asks him for insight under the guise that his movie director friend wants to make a movie about the real estate business.

He’s told that a payment on a sale of a commercial building can take up to a year, and there have been several cases of people who run off with the deposit before everything in the contract is squared away–of course those people ended up in prison or hiding out of the country.

Ki-doong wonders what could be so important that So-joon wants to talk about it at his place. He guesses that it’s something bad and asks if it’s okay if he doesn’t hear what it is. Yet as much as So-joon wants to keep Ki-doong out of it, he needs his help: “There’s something we need to take care of together.”

Director Kim catches the tail-end of that conversation, and the three of them take the elevator down together. So-joon notes that he’s heard how busy Director Kim has been lately that it prevents him from attending meetings, and the director says he shows up more often than So-joon does.

“You should,” So-joon says gravely, “because you aren’t me.” Still avoiding his gaze, Director Kim says it was only a joke.

So-joon shares the upsetting news about Se-young’s father dying in the future once he and Ki-doong are alone. While So-joon believes it’s still preventable, Ki-doong angrily kicks his furniture and asks what So-joon plans to do about it.

Ki-doong thinks it won’t be enough sending Se-young’s father away to Japan since it’s possible he’s still meant to die on the 27th. But So-joon says all they need to do is prevent the workplace accident from taking place at all regardless of whether it was deliberate on someone’s part or not.

“What do you mean, deliberate?” Ki-doong asks. So-joon admits that he does suspect someone, thinking of Doo-shik, but he can’t be certain since that person would have no reason to harm Se-young’s father.

Ki-doong grows frustrated at So-joon speaking in vague terms, but he’s told to show up at the construction site on the 27th in case there is a culprit who shows up there. He asks if So-joon can’t travel to the future to be completely sure, and So-joon discloses, “The person I suspect… is also a time traveler.”

His plans could go awry if that time traveler finds out what he’s up to, but So-joon has to consider all the possibilities. Emotions welling up in him, Ki-doong says he has nothing to worry about when his friend can see the future.

Much to their surprise, Ma-rin shows up moments later, and Ki-doong slips away to get some air. She peruses So-joon’s office and futuristic electronics, commenting that he is leading two lives.

She pokes her head around, half-hoping that there’s a door leading to another dimension, then concedes to the idea that So-joon really can time travel because she can’t deny all the things she’s seen.

They go for a walk, and Ma-rin says she went to see a fortuneteller who told her that their futures look bright. So-joon asks how talking to spirits could help foresee the future, to which Ma-rin counters, “Then can only time travelers see the future?” Touche.

She gives him a talisman for protection, explaining that this is her way of expressing her concern for him. That’s enough for So-joon, though Ma-rin asks, “Can’t you ask more of me?”

She confesses that his admission still doesn’t feel real, and while knowing the future could be more useful than winning the lottery, she doesn’t see it that way, “because it feels like you’re living in a different world.”

So-joon understands that Ma-rin still has trouble wrapping her head around the idea that her husband is a time traveler, though he remarks that it wouldn’t ever be possible to know someone inside and out anyway. “We’ll be living together for at least 70 years. Wouldn’t it be boring if we knew everything about one another?”

He tells her not to like him too much, and then conducts a fake interview, asking her how she feels about being a time traveler’s wife. Ma-rin: “Feels like crap.” So-joon: “Isn’t he so charming?” Ma-rin: “Not really.” Hah.

She asks if the terrible thing he’s dreading will happen on October 27th, wanting to know what it is. So-joon tells her that Se-young’s father will be in what he thinks is a preventable accident. Still, this impending incident is why he wanted Ma-rin to quit her job.

He says he doesn’t want her to go near the construction site either, and Ma-rin realizes that’s where the accident is supposed to take place. So-joon assures her that nothing will happen and considers giving the talisman to Se-young’s father before deciding to keep it for himself.

Elsewhere, Director Kim gets the businessman to pay a larger deposit than they originally agreed to. He says the rest of the payment can be finalized in a year’s time, and asks that this deal remains completely confidential.

Later that night, Director Kim tells Gun-sook that they’ll be able to leave the country in a few months. He plans on moving them to Vietnam and instructs her to get her affairs in order. He says she mustn’t breathe a word of this to Ma-rin, and she isn’t in any position to have a say in the matter. Gun-sook refuses to leave, which only gets Director Kim more worked up.

Ma-rin is still worried when they return home, but So-joon assures her that everything will be fine. He asks if she remembers when they first met on the street and he saved her from that truck.

He says he knew about that accident ahead of time, and Ma-rin says she thought So-joon had fallen for her. “I saved you,” So-joon responds. “Isn’t that moving? Just like in the movies.”

He’s bringing that up because he thinks they’ll also be able to save Se-young’s father. She asks if he really saved her, and when he says he did, she smiles and says, “You’re a fascinating man.” She pokes his cheek to check that he’s human, and So-joon moves and talks like a robot, which makes her laugh.

Ki-doong meets Se-young as she leaves her job. He offers to carry her things and drive her anywhere she needs to go, but that only makes her feel more uncomfortable. He tells her to give it a rest already because he doesn’t intend on trying anything with her—all he wanted was to say his goodbye because he can’t see her off tomorrow.

His voice shaking, he encourages her to live well and helps her take a call from her father, who passes by Director Kim outside the MyReits building. Se-young’s father sits down with So-joon to thank him for the company trip and for thinking of him and the rest of the Happiness employees. So-joon gets choked up and wishes him well.

So-joon insists on seeing Se-young’s father out, and ajusshi mentions that his former schoolmate—the businessman whom Director Kim struck a deal with—was bragging about a building he recently bought. So-joon finds that odd since none of their companies’ buildings are up for sale, and Director Kim overhears the entire exchange just around the corner. Gah, put two and two together!

Ki-doong arrives at the office just as Se-young’s father leaves. Unable to face him now, he plans on seeing him after they save the man’s life. He’s amazed at how So-joon could carry such a huge burden of knowing the future for so long, but knows this is for Se-young’s sake.

So-joon says this is an opportunity that they won’t have again and encourages Ki-doong that they can get through it together.

October 27, 2016. Ki-doong arrives at the Happiness construction site with a camera in hand. Ma-rin insists on helping by heading out to the airport to make sure Se-young’s father gets on that plane.

Little do they know that Se-young’s father plans on making a detour to see the Happiness employees before meeting his daughter at the airport. Director Kim nervously watches Se-young’s father sending off the bus while thinking back to how the businessman heard that MyReits wasn’t even considering selling the building the director said was up for sale.

He runs up to Se-young’s father to introduce himself and explains that he too is on his way to the airport. Uh oh.

Meanwhile, Doo-shik sneaks into Ki-doong’s apartment (seriously, does he not have a lock on that door?) just as So-joon had seen him do. But this time, So-joon is there waiting for him and asks if he’s here to steal his journal. He asks what Doo-shik intends on doing with it, wondering why he is so fixated on So-joon’s life.

He knows Doo-shik plans on stealing the journal to cover up a future event, and Doo-shik doesn’t deny it, arguing that ignorance is bliss. “What exactly should I not know about?” So-joon asks. “Today’s accident?”

He knows Doo-shik plans on heading to the construction site afterward, saying that he’d already see it happen in the future. Doo-shik argues that he’s being accused of doing something he hasn’t even done yet.

But So-joon is in no mood to kid around—all he knows is that he has to get Doo-shik far away from that construction site. Doo-shik asks if So-joon suspects him, which only proves that he knows what will happen to Se-young’s father.

He’s reminded of Doo-shik’s words about trusting him, but that doesn’t explain why Doo-shik would head to the scene of the accident and hide that incident from him.

So-joon: “I really hope you aren’t the culprit.” Doo-shik asks So-joon to look him in the eye: “It isn’t me, is it?” He has no time to waste, but that’s when So-joon reveals that he sent Se-young’s father away to Japan with his daughter. From the look on Doo-shik’s face, that’s a variable he didn’t account for.

So-joon says with determination that Se-young’s father won’t die because he’ll be on that plane today. Ack, you don’t know for sure yet! Doo-shik asks if he’s completely certain. So-joon orders Doo-shik to do exactly as he says because he can’t trust him—nothing may happen today, but he needs to be thorough.

They take the subway at Namyeong Station, and Doo-shik asks if So-joon really thinks he can prevent today’s incident from taking place by dropping him off in the future. So-joon handcuffs himself to Doo-shik, whom he declares is guilty until proven innocent.

Doo-shik agrees, thinking to himself that it won’t be a bad idea to keep So-joon away from the construction site because it’s most important that he doesn’t know that Director Kim is the culprit. And then they both disappear.

Ma-rin and Se-young nervously wait for Se-young’s father at the airport. She tries calling, but it goes unanswered. In the car, Director Kim tells Se-young’s father to ignore his calls. As they pass the airport exit, Director Kim brings up how Se-young’s father has been in contact with his potential business partner.

Realizing what this conversation is about, Se-young’s father asks to be dropped off. He isn’t interested in being paid off and confirms that Director Kim did con his schoolmate into buying a building. But Director Kim is beyond reason now, screaming that he’s had enough already.

Ma-rin sends Se-young off first while she stays behind to look for Se-young’s father. She leaves a message for So-joon, and she’s so distracted that she’s nearly hit by an oncoming car.

So-joon and Doo-shik travel to Winter 2016, after Ki-doong’s place is long abandoned. Again he asks why Doo-shik went to the construction site. Doo-shik replies that he didn’t want to get So-joon involved for fear that would only lead to a darker future for him.

So-joon doesn’t understand what that means but knows that Doo-shik doesn’t have to worry about him. “It’s because I feel like you’re my son,” Doo-shik says. So-joon tells him to be good to the daughter he previously mentioned, and tears fill Doo-shik’s eyes as he asks, “Do you think I’m someone who would do something so horrific?”

“No,” So-joon honestly replies. He guesses that the news headlines will change if Se-young’s father survives, and if that happens, they can talk then. But everything remains the same.

Back in the present, Ma-rin arrives at the construction site and runs past Director Kim’s car as it’s leaving. He wonders what she’s doing here and yells into the trunk—which now contains Se-young’s father—to keep it down.

Ki-doong pops out of his hiding place to warn Ma-rin that she can’t be here, and is shocked to hear that Se-young’s father never made it to the airport. In the future, So-joon watches the headline disappear and then reappear again… still with an accidental death, just in a different location.

Doo-shik stops So-joon from leaving right away, explaining that there isn’t anything So-joon can do now because a person’s death falls under the category of things that time travelers cannot control. But So-joon says there’s still time and runs out.

Director Kim pulls up to the other construction site and removes the tape from Se-young’s father’s mouth. He can’t possibly trust the man’s word on staying silent now, and blames Se-young’s father for ruining everything: “Do I have to kill you?”

As soon as So-joon returns to the present, he calls Ki-doong to let him know of the location change. Ma-rin confirms that Happiness has another construction site and they hurry on over… and find Se-young’s father lying unconscious and bleeding out.

They cry for help, and So-joon arrives soon afterward, remembering how Ma-rin from the future was crying for him. She sees him and runs into his arms, sobbing.

After Director Kim returns home in silence, Gun-sook wonders where all the dirt on his dress shoes came from. In a dark corner, Doo-shik speaks into his voice recorder, recounting how Director Kim was fated to kill Se-young’s father, who found out about the director’s embezzlement activity.

He tried and failed to get Director Kim to leave So-joon’s company, and though some details may have changed, the director ultimately became a murderer. “But I can’t tell So-joon of this truth… ” Doo-shik gravely says, “because that would endanger our Ma-rin and So-joon.”

At Se-young’s father’s funeral, So-joon grieves in a corner, remembering all the fond memories he shared with him. Ma-rin offers him some water, and when he tells her to go rest, she replies that she can’t, not when she knows how hard this is for him.

He heads out for some air, and she finds him sitting alone outside. “How did it make you feel when you traveled through time for the first time?” she ventures. He says it made him happy, like he had the whole world.

He regrets sending all the Happiness employees away because that meant all the construction sites were empty, and he can’t help but think that he’s somehow responsible for what happened.

Ma-rin tells him not to think that, but rather that Se-young’s father’s death was something they couldn’t do anything about. He takes in a slow breath and wonders how he wasn’t able to do anything when he knew what would happen. She says she and Ki-doong were in the same position, but they couldn’t do anything about it.

So-joon doesn’t believe that things were completely out of their hands, and starts crying over how he knew what would happen. Seeing him in such grief, Ma-rin can’t help but cry with him. She hugs him and says they should think that nothing could’ve been done.

But he asks her not to say those words and completes the thought in his head: If nothing truly could’ve been done, then that means we don’t have that much time left either.

Ma-rin caresses his face and lets him cry into her shoulder.

 
COMMENTS

Do you hear that? That’s the sound of my heart shattering into a million pieces. Even though we didn’t get to see much of Se-young’s father in this series leading up to his death, he was always an important figure in our hero’s life. I can’t even begin to imagine So-joon’s heartache of losing another parent in his lifetime, along with the guilt that he feels thinking that he could’ve done something else to prevent it.

But at the end of the day, our time traveler is only human and trying to protect the people he holds dear. Even if he tries to think of every possibility, there’s always a chance for someone to make a different choice, and in this case, leading to an end result that both So-joon and Doo-shik had already foreseen. In a way, it’s frightening to think that the characters in this world are subject to certain futures despite doing their damnedest to try and change the circumstances. Not being able to prevent Se-young’s father’s death does paint a bleaker forecast for our lovebirds, and we can already see the emotional toll that it’s taking on So-joon.

Yet I do love how incredibly honest So-joon was with Ma-rin following his admission. He laid his cards on the table and kept her in the loop, something Ma-rin had always wanted from him. I loved how she and Ki-doong asked all the important questions from So-joon today, and thought it was a beautiful touch on the director’s part that most of her heart-to-heart conversations with So-joon were one continuous shot. That allowed us to follow their conversation topics as they unfolded and to be with them in the moment as they faced some of the most trying times to date.

When it came to Director Kim, we could see his growing agitation and frustration build in these last few episodes. As desperation took hold of him, his inner demons rose to the surface, making him more vulnerable to make emotionally volatile judgment calls. Neither So-joon nor Ki-doong paid him much attention, even when they were given subtle clues about the changes in Director Kim’s behavior. Even Doo-shik underestimated his unstable behavior, though I still don’t fully know how he thought that preventing So-joon from knowing about Se-young’s father’s death could have protected his daughter and son-in-law.

But what we know now is that the secrets Doo-shik is keeping from So-joon are driving a wedge between them. We’re fast approaching the date when So-joon allegedly disappeared as well, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Se-young’s father’s death was a major factor that led to that consequence. Yet what I know right now is that So-joon needs someone who loves him by his side, and I’m so relieved that the literal shoulder he can cry on belongs to Ma-rin.

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It hurts so good

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It's both my stress and stress reliever.

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can not agree more

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It's a very painful time

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Finally out! I've been waiting since this morning waiting recaps eps 10! Thanks gummimochi !

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I want to officially apologize to Beautiful Mind's fans.
I finally understand how y'all were feeling. I am a slave to this drama... and the fact that other people are not loving it as much as I do is really hitting me in my feelings >_>... I openly apologize for all snark comments I made in my head about BM's fandom.
I am now wearing your shoes TT

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Lol! Hahaha! I feel you; I'm totally hooked as well @[email protected]

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i love this drama & don't care much about ratings. still i'm relief that it aired on tvN & pre-produced. if it on major channel, they may have cut down the eps.

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Unfortunately, neither of those things (preproduced and tvN) are a guarantee that a show won't be messed with. Shy Boss is also tvN, has higher ratings than Tomorrow with You (admittedly not by much), and it still got neutered and hacked. Scarlet Heart and Tamra the Island were both preproduced, and they were both heavily re-edited mid run. Tamra was even cut.

Luckily TWY has been safe so far. Fingers crossed for the rest of the run!

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tvN will not mess with TWY and risk damaging the relationship they have with it's star who has already produced (or been one of an ensemble to produce) a hit drama for the network. TWY is getting pretty much (or a bit better?) the same numbers as Entourage which was also reproduced and started another 'Signal' alum in Choi Jin Woog, and tvN didn't mess with that one and let it run it's natural full course. They better do the same with Lee Je Hoon and TWY or I will rage!

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I've been said it since episode two. Now i know BM and Weightlifting's fans feeling...

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Hahaha, i am one of BM fans.

I dropped this drama after episode 4, I didn't feel like watching don't know why! although i love both leads. But I still read the comments here and there and check the recaps.

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I didn't watch Beautiful Mind but I felt the same way with I Remember You. It's so sad when a drama you love just isn't getting the attention it deserves.

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Awww. It's all right. Well you're entitled to your opinion after all. Let's just all enjoy watch this heartbreaking drama after all. ?

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I still blame doo-shik for not being honest with so joon. if he knew this was going to happen, this could have been prevented. too much misunderstandings and secrets

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doo shik manipulated so joon to marry ma rin, he lure then drive director kim crazy & he also stole so joon's journal to keep about director kim relation with se young's dad death from so joon. so he involving so joon, director kim & se young's dad just to protect ma rin?

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i'm kind of unclear of what doo shik plan actually.

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Right? I've been confused why would he not want SJ to know Director Kim is the culprit, but he hints at some impending doom in the future if he does know so okay

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I think Doo Shik is trying to prevent something concerning our main couple, maybe something that will lead to their mis-fortune in the future.

It's so painful to see the only father-figure in his life's die, while he watches helplessly, doing nothing about it despite knowing before hand.
Somehow, i feel like So Joon played a part in that incident, if i remember correctly, i watched another time travelling movie sometime back, in that movie someone said that "time travelling can not show you the future. No one know what tomorrow will be because the future is not set yet." in short, time machines can show you a future that's not set, trying to set it right will eventually lead you to the very thing you're trying to prevent.

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If So Joon finds out about Director Kim's embezzling, DK might kill SJ just like he did to Se Young's father.

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@Martin J Simwaba "in short, time machines can show you a future that’s not set, trying to set it right will eventually lead you to the very thing you’re trying to prevent." I think you are so right! I remember seeing a movie which starts in a hotel room, with a woman who shots in self defence her boyfriend who attacked her. A friend of the woman comes, she tells him everything, then he takes the gun away from her and they go to the elevator. While in the elevator, she prays for a chance to relive the last year and to avoid meeting this abusive man. Her prayer is answered and, when the elevator stops, she is at the party for the previous New Year Eve. She is the only one who knows that this year is repeated. Later she avoids going to the party where she met him the first time, she goes somewhere else, only to meet him there, because he also decided to skip that party. Whatever she does to avoid them, things that had happened before happen again. At the end she is again with him in a room, he attacks her again, but she doesn't have the gun. She thinks that everything is lost, but then the friend who had taken the gun from her in the beginning appears and shoots the attacker. The only thing that changed in the repeated year was who shot. I remember I was very impressed because of this gloom perspective. Let's hope in this drama they'll find a way to avoid their deaths, maybe by learning a certain lesson.

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isn't the murder ultimately his fault? i thought that the point was if doo-shik pulled out of this project then director kim has no money to pay back the other investors, which is why he defrauds that guy into buying a building... therefore giving him motive to kill se-young's dad!

i wish the writers would have explained to us what was dangerous because we established 2 weeks ago that doo-shik didn't want so-joon to know it was director kim's fault. now that it's already happened, what else have we learned about it? "he didn't want so-joon to know because it's dangerous for him & ma-rin" uh...thanks for the additional info LOL

maybe they want us to be just as frustrated as so-joon...

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I agree. Even though I am only reading the recaps, I feel like Doo-shik indirectly caused the death by pulling out of the deal with Director Kim.

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Hmmmm. I was actually thinking it was So-joon's fault. Partly for the same reason that So-joon said it was his fault--emptying out the construction site so there'd be nobody around to intervene. Also, for not taking the man to the airport himself. Seriously, why go through the trouble of sending him and all the employees away on the same day and not personally escort him to the airport. It's consistent with So-joon's half-assed investigative techniques--like why not look up information on who Doo-shik is--but it's still one of the things in the story line that irks me.

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exactly my thoughts. imo SJ is at fault. knowing the impending death, he should have escorted ahjussi all the way to the airport instead of going to the future just to check if indeed that accident did not happen.

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This show goes to show how dangerous it is to play god, as Doo-shik and So Joon have been doing. And how arrogant and reckless it is to think that you can. They're too preoccupied with what their limited mind can work with, and forget that there could be a million variables in "the future", or just about any situation at any point in time.

I agree that probably both of them have a hand in creating all these incidents. First of all, without Doo-shik putting ideas into his head, would Director Kim every try to betray So Joon and started his con? Then, if you knew something would happen somewhere where there were nobody around, would you make it so that nobody is around? You were supposed to not let the place be so quiet! And, unless you were stalking him all day that day, how would you know he'd avoid all the things you wanted to keep him away from? You think you know everything just because you know some information about the future?

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Hmmm...quite a lot of people saying that So Joon could have saved Se Young’s dad by simply accompanying him to the airport himself.
However, let’s not forget that SY’s father’s death was not the only problematic incident that SJ had foreseen. Doo Shik would also steal SJ’s journal on the 27th and SJ couldn’t plan to intercept Doo Shik and be with SY’s father at the same time. He believed he had set up enough measures to prevent the foreseen death(albeit not so good ones, so maybe arguments against his faulty methods still stand).
And as some comments have pointed out, the events that led up to SY’s father’s death involved the intentions of others, which SJ can simply not foresee.After all, he’s a time-traveler not a mind-reader.

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Dooshik trying to prevent So joon from knowing that director Kim is the one who kill seyong's appa. Dooshik has clearly mention in his voice recording that he tried to protect sojoon & marin maybe coz he alrd know/afraid that sojoon will revenge to director kim later and harm both sojoon &marin future. Dooshik tried his for early stage to stop the murder by giving lots of money to director kim and ask him to leave the company but its failed. He also try to go on d murder scene to prevent it but was stopped by sojoon. so his last resort is just to prevent sojoon from knowing the culprit coz i believe that is the source of sojoon (n marin) messy future.

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I sort of am inclined to blame him as well. I don't care how much he knows or why he did it like that, but his knowledge concerned both So-joon and Ma-rin and yet he kept toying with So-joon. Very frustrating indeed.

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Let's not only blame Doo Shik, what about So joon? If he didn't give the day off to all the workers, maybe Se Young's father would still be alive. He went to So Joon to thank him and that's where it all started. It may look like So Joon was trying to prevent that ill-future, but he undeniably fulfilled it.

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Perhaps. But I think the point that this drama and many time-travel dramas try to make is that events in the future are very hard to offset no matter how hard one tries, or lack thereof. I think in this context, doing nothing would have somehow resulted in Se-young's abeoji's death anyway, perhaps by some coincidence where all the workers left together for lunch.

And if we feel hard pressed to blame So-joon anyway, then I want to quote what is said often in this season of The Flash (a CW network show about the DC superhero): none of these players are God, much less So-joon. They can try to manipulate or dodge events events they think will happen in the future, but they can't "decide" or "create" what happens, because they would have already done so if they could have.

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And to clarify, I think why I feel inclined to blame Doo-shik over So-joon is because So-joon tried his damnedest to fix this: he looked at the situation from every angle and even kept his loved ones the loop about this one.

Doo-shik on the otherhand, in my opinion, appeared to half-ass this. And if not half-assed, he was extremely disorganized and overemotional about the whole affair. This is why I want to hold him accountable.

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DooShik is so stupid. D.Kim was the problem. D. Kim was in the process of committing a crime. Problem is solved when D.Kim disappears = just (plot to) put Director Kim in jail.

And SoJoon ah. You don't even know how SeYoung's father dies. Why not escort him yourself on that important day????? OH LE SIGH.

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I think in the end everyone is stupid. Trying to play god is stupid.

I have a love-hate relationship with this drama. It's like I can't not watch it, but when I do I keep cursing it.

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What Doo-shik is doing to So-joon and what So-joon is doing to Ma-rin are not that different IMHO. Both think they know what best for the other party, hold some important information for said party's own good (at least that's what they think), make plans on their own and work alone without involving the other party.

The only different is we know So-joon's motivations and where he comes from, while Doo-shik motivations and real intentions aren't that clear yet.

It's so funny how So-joon always asks everyone around him to believe in his decisions without giving much explanation (he does this to Ma-rin and people who work for him in MyReits), yet when he is put in the same situation, he can't help feeling frustrated as well and demanding explanation. LOL.

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I'm just so frustrated that the conflicts in this drama has very little to no explanations. i just dont understand the significance of the mystery anymore because the writers offer us no good explanation so far. it's one thing to keep things vague and intriguing, but having no good answers for 10 episodes just makes me think that the story is going no where.

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I blame him too. Even though I don't think they can change the future (and I like that because I like the message that there are things in life simply beyond our control. We humans are not omnipresent gods. Live in and enjoy your now and let what will come/be, come and be) I don't understand why the man is keeping and still keeping the secret of being Ma Rin's dad (or even why he abandoned his family and staying doing so) or even why he wouldn't tell him that director Kim is the culprit. Doesn't he (and So Joon as well) see that in doing these things he is bringing about self-fulling prophesies. Just, ugh can't they just leave the future be?

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From what I can tell the reason for So-joon and Ma-rin's death in the future is related to Director Kim. My guess is they found out he is the murderer of Se-young's father and that is why he kills them which would make sense why Doo-shik is trying so hard to prevent the murder and then also from them finding out Director Kim is the culprit. He even says it would be dangerous if they found out who the real culprit is.

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This is exactly what I was thinking!

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No, I actually want So-Joon know who Doo-Shik is. Find Doo-Shik journal too. I hope next episode will reveal Doo-Shik part to us. He travelling time prior to So-Joon, so he is the key for revealing So-Joon and Ma-Rin future.

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Thanks for the recap gummimochi! You've pretty much summed up most of my thoughts on this episode.

Also, I'm one of the top comments, I think! That's a first!

This episode has kind of been a climax of sorts. I like where we are at this point in the show, though I know s*** is going to go down next week. Can't wait though.

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Ahhh. I'm so sad for ajusshi who had been so fatherly to sojoon and to some extent to Marin too. I wish there were a lot of things sojoon et al could have done differently to save him but at the very least, I'm glad sojoon had a chance to thank him earnestly for all he's done for him in his office.

Please don't die lovebirds! But if you really are going to, please at least stay together happily til then

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I didn't realize how much I loved Se Young's dad until now and when he died, I bawled. After So Joon's last convo with Se Young's dad and Se Young asking Marin to look after her dad, I knew he was a goner and my heart just broke. With so much focus on SJ and MR, I didn't realize how attached I had gotten to the Happiness director who cared so much for his family and who treated his staff like his famiy. :*(

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Actually I blame this on DS, because he wasn't clear with SJ and he's hiding things from him. If only he was honest from the beginning, SY's father's death could've been prevented. But SJ was left to figure everything out on his own, while still trying to save SY's father, and detain DS because he thinks that DS is the culprit... this is 90% DS's fault. I also don't understand why DS wants to keep chief Kim's involvement and crime a secret? I think it is because he doesn't want SJ to know that he is Marin's father? But I think there must be something more, because that reason alone is not convincing.

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My working theory is that finding out about Director Kim's involvement is what leads to So Joon's disappearance. If SJ finds out that he was the who killed Se Young's father, he'll inevitably confront him. Director Kim is already super paranoid thinking that So Joon knows about his illegal business deals. My fear is that during one of So Joon's visits to the future, he'll find out that Director Kim was the murderer and Director Kim will kill him. Thus, causing him to disappear from the present.

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But if DS had told SJ about Director Kim from the beginning, then they could've both worked together to gather information and get proof about director Kim's illegal activities, and then given that proof to the police. In that way things would've have become this bad or this complicated. They could've even given director Kim enough rope to hang himself, with their collaboration. Heck SJ by himself could've taken care of it, if he had known the details and facts before, and had time to plan. This is why I find DS to blame so far. However if DS had just recently found out about director Kim, then maybe there wasn't enough time?

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I don't think DS knew about Director Kim killing Se Young's father until more recently. He saw that article about him going independent/becoming the new CEO of MyReits(?) in the future so he knew that Kim was gunning for SJ's position and set up the fake investment deal to prevent it. However, I think it was Do Shik's dismissal of Director Kim when he refused to leave MyReits and him basically leaving him in the position to be arrested or become bankrupt that pushed him in to becoming a killer. So really the blame lies with DS, but DS couldn't go back to the past to reverse it. I think one of the most interesting things about how the time travel works in this show is that the more that time passes, the less future they have to go to.

I think for DS to reveal what he knows, he would have to admit to even worse/more invasive interventions that he's made in SJ & MR's lives, but he doesn't want to do that.

DS might be on the heros' side, but he's becoming more of a big bad than Director Kim with all the manipulation he's doing.

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Exactly what I was thinking the whole time watching the events slowly become what we already knew was gonna happen. It seemed like a pretty easy thing to prevent, uh just keep an eye on him for the day would have been sufficient? Or change the flight to the day before maybe? I also wondered why he never thought about the advice that future Marin told him about keeping Se Young from leaving for Japan.. a key element in retrospect (if retrospect still exists).

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I believe that Seyoung's father was going to die no matter how much So Joon or Do Shik tried to prevent it (just as Do Shik couldn't prevent director Kim from not leaving myRetis. I think the show has been pretty clear from the get go, that neither men are changing the future -much as they like to think they are- more so they are creating a different path to the same future/destined outcome. At the same time, the plan to try and prevent Se Young's father's death was...weak as get all.

I still can't wrap my head around the fact that So Joon didn't heed to the many warnings of the future and "try to prevent Se Young from leaving." That was the one thing he was supposed to do, told to do, but didn't even try to do. The key was to keep her in Korea (perhaps had she been there she would have been with her father that day and prevented the whole thing). Again as much as I think the father still would have died (because they are not god and something things are meant to happen and will happen) the show isn't selling that fate message strong enough because our hero and his mater/traveling sidekick are incompetent idiots imho.

It would have been bomb af if So Joon had tried to stop Se Young as warned and still ahjussi died but this time Se Young dies with him because she was there too. You know some twist of fate where the destined action happens and then there are fateful consequences for their interference. But the show isn't doing this and that is it's weakness and why it just can't seem to grip the audience. When one thinks on it, there aren't any real stakes. Which is why for the sake of my entertainment, I choose to believe So Joon is living self fulfilling prophesies.

In this case Ma Rin being at the accident site. If So Joon never went to the future and saw Ma Rin there and then came into the present and told Ma Rin and this thus leading her to go there, would she still have gone? This whole show is like the big question of "which came first? The chicken or the egg?" for me. I am not sure which is influencing the other. The future or the present? Were these things always going to happen? Or did So Joon seeing these happen lead him to making choices that makes these things happen?

These things were always going to happen and have already happen and will happen...So Joon is basically just living and seeing fragments of his life. The whole time travel is....there is no weight. It's like we are given snapshot of a time to come and then simply shown the journey there. But did he get there because he's seen it and thus making choices to be there? Or was he always going to get there?

And yes, I have given myself a headache LOL. Curse Lee Je Hoon and his lies and my inability to resist him. This is not a happy rom-com you dunce! You really can't stay away from these deep intense roles and dramas can you bb?

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Even if he had done that, the result would have been the same... the process might have been different, but Se-young's Dad would have still died. That's what will lead the future So-joon to believe that no matter how hard he tries to prevent Ma-rin and himself from dying, they will end up dying anyway.

I guess everything will happen as So-joon has seen in his future, including the 2019 accident. If this story will end happily then So-joon and Ma-rin will survive the accident and get back together after that, if it's sad ending (nooooooo) then both will die anyway... the only different probably both will have readily accepted their fate and die together without regret (ala Ji Eun-tak).

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Basically all of this. But still the execution of showing us the weight and pull of fate and final destination could have been much much better. So Joon should have tried to prevent Se Young from leaving as warned, been successful in that, and then have twisted things and had Se Young's dad still die and this time Se Young injured, witness the death, and or die as well for having been there instead of in Japan. The show needs to add some stakes to the future and trying to play with it, more so than they have been now. This is it's one glaring weak spot and why I think it can't retain audience (though I for one am enjoying the heck out of it. Still can't deny it's weakness though).

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I had high hope for Show's execution in this episode, but that one you mentioned is indeed one of the weakest spot (which was the first one that I encountered from this show). I wrote this somewhere that I hope there'd be more twists to keep this show still being interesting.

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I just want to say that his episode broke my heart, but I don't want SJ to lose hope. He needs to remember that things already changed, when he and Marin didn't die at that train station, and also when he saved Marin from that accident. So he can change things. Just because this time things didn't change, because he is human, doesn't mean that everything is set in stone. He just needs to not despair, and fight to the end.

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But has he really changed things? Yes, he and Do Shik have altered things (the path is different) but have they changed outcomes? Is the destination any different from what it had always been? What have either men truly changed?

I feel the answers were all in the first episode with Ma Rin's car accident and So Joon "saving her". Fated things still happened. Ma Rin still got into her car "accident". Things be altered but nothing has really changed. Pay attention to the pictures they showed at the end of the first few episodes (not sure if they still doing it now) it tells a story as well...

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Just finished watching this episode and I was so frustrated with So Joon and Doo Shik. All of their behind the scenes manipulation just played into the future's hands. Yes, time is the real villain in this drama. No matter what they do, time catches up to them. I believe Se Young's dad's life would've always been in danger as long as he knew what Director Kim did. If Doo Shik was just honest then So Joon could have been suspicious of Director Kim all along. I don't buy this trying to protect them nonsense. Protect them by telling him who he should be suspicious of!

Though I hate the outcome, I love the writing. No matter how much you try to manipulate fate, time is one step ahead. The way to defeat time is to ignore it. Lesson, stop worrying about tomorrow and live in the moment. Listen to Ki Doong!

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I think that's the problem with visiting the future. While you visit the future, time is still passing normally in the present. You don't get to go back to the moment you disappeared from the present.

So you can't stay in the future for long. There is a limited amount of observations you can make, so what you're essentially getting is a glimpse, a snapshot lacking in complete context. And then with that tidbit of info, you still only get one chance in the present to make a decision to change the future.

Despite my frustration with SJ for getting the wrong bad guy, I cried when So Joon felt he was responsible for Se Young's dad's death. But as you said, Se young's dad's life would be in danger as long as Director Kim knew he would out him for embezzling. The man is desperate.

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Wahh, couldn't agree more. Seems like a cruel way to teach these people a lesson...

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Exactly! They aren't changing anything. They've never been changing anything. From the get go what's meant to happen has happen will happen does happen because he's just living life. The present and the future are influencing one another because it's just a life. He's being and living his life and not really traveling to and from or building and changing things. Just live in the today so you can have your tomorrow So Joon cause it'll come and it'll be if you let it and you are just basically chasing your own tail right now.

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I find this drama so interesting though I can understand why it's not for everyone. This episode seems to confirm that death is one outcome that can't be changed, however I think there are hints that it can and has already in the case of So Joon and Ma Rin. It seems like Doo Shik saved them both on the train by making the camera clicking sound and Final Destination-style, Death is coming back for them 10 years later and in a year ending in 9(important number in kdramas). It's too much of a coincidence that they both die on the same date at the same time. That would also explain why Doo Shik still seems convinced that he and So Joon can save So Joon and Ma Rin's lives in 2019. The fortune teller's comment about them being neither alive nor dead also hints at this.

I wonder if So Joon completely disappears because he gets stuck in the future and can't return to the present. It would make sense to me if that happened to Doo Shik and that's why he vanished completely from his family's lives. It also explains why he's so determined to avoid being seen by his ex-wife and child especially if he looks the same age that he was 20 years ago. It could just be kdrama logic that he hasn't aged a day since the photo was taken or it could be that he really hasn't aged.

Right now, I really want to know if all this has happened before and the characters are in a time loop that keeps repeating until they find a way to survive. If Doo Shik saved So Joon and Ma Rin on the subway, was that the first time or after several failed attempts? Do Shik knew So Joon would get the ability to time travel and would be at the station when they first met. Is he recording those messages for the future him or for other versions of him so he learns what works and what doesn't? I'm not sure this drama has enough episodes left to deal with a repeating time loop but who knows.

Obviously fate and death are the antagonists here but Doo Shik is right to worry about Director Kim. If So Joon and/or Ma Rin catch on to him, they could be in mortal danger.

Lastly, I think it's great that the drama keeps emphasizing how free will sometimes leads to the predestined outcome. So Joon knows Se Young's father will die but none of the changes he made mattered because he couldn't control other people's wills and actions. Even a plane ticket to Japan couldn't stop Se Young's father from deciding to visit his employees and eventually meet Director Kim. Future Ma Rin tells So Joon to stop Se Young from going up Japan but how could he realistically achieve that? She's set on going and aside from leaving Ma Rin and pledging undying love for her, nothing he could do would probably stop her.

I think a happy ending is possible for this show but not very likely. Even if they are saved once more, will they have to cheat death again in 2029? However, the married with 3 kids comment made me wonder if that is a one-time certain outcome that maybe was altered by either So...

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Joon or Doo Shik'a actions.

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I find your theories intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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Count me as subscriber #2! Haha!

Can't help but wonder if So Joon's near-future departure may have been a consequence of being framed for Director Kim's embezzlement and hence the sudden need to run from the law...just a thought...I've come to realise that I'm pretty bad at theory-formulating...

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@ Daine
Oh I really love your theory about the years ending in 9 and the reaper may be looking for them again in 2019. (Good call-back to "Goblin")
If they can survive events of 2019, then every 10 years they will have to cheat death again. Very daunting.

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I think they have to die in 2019, not 2029...
and yes, there should be a happy end. After all, we are in Dramaland... But, on the other hand, there are some dramas which surprises us in the finale... Or they screw it up very badly!! he he... We will find out...

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I really do hope that it ends with a happy ending.

Maybe the name of the drama itself is a hint. It's not called "Tomorrow with you" for nothing, so there will indeed be a tomorrow for our couple.

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I have been having pretty much the same theory of them being in a continuous time loop of cause and action going on and on and that a happy ending that Do Shik saw where his daughter had three kids and living happily is possible and has happened and can still happen but one little thing must happen in the now that has been tried and failed and on looping until that one thing is done that changes everything. I'm so glad to know my conspiracy theories are not that insane and that someone else sees it too. LOL.

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The fortune teller's comment also stood out to me, and it made think that SJ and MR's lives can still be saves despite the fact that SY's father's death seems to suggest otherwise.

Up until now, the thing that bothers me the most is SJ's ignorance towards Director Kim. It's really frustrating that he's ignoring ALL the hints. But then that scene in the elevator where he confronted Director Kim about not attending the meetings made think that it might be a foreshadowing of what's to come...SJ eventually finding out about him.

Also, I'm afraid of how SY's father's death is going to affect SJ. Is it what will cause a rift btn him and MR? After losing his parents, he's also lost the only parent-figure that was left to him, shattering his hope of changing his own future as well. I'm just really glad that in his moment of grief, MR was there for him.

However, my hope for a happy ending is hanging by a thread, by the looks of how things are developing and the number of episodes left, it's seeming more and more likely that this show might get a sad ending :(

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This episode was so hard to watch. We know what's going to happen and yet we pray hard that it won't. It felt like I was there with them as I watch. I was crying with them there at the end.

Still, I was so scared that Kidoon would die too when Sojoon asked him to go to the construction site! Then there was that scene where he's saying goodbye to Seyoung. Ugh. My heart...

Ahhh... I work 6 days a week and my day off starts when I watch this drama's odd episode and it ends once I read the recap of the even episode here. It's going to be a long week ahead. Friday, come fast!

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I finally found my sympathy for Sojoon's obsession with going to the future and trying to change it in the present. We have often questioned why Sojoon doesn't make a better effort at staying in the moment and always mucks things up in the present, but this episode really expounds on the mechanism of his mind.

Unlike Kidoong or Marin, to whom the present is all they have, Sojoon is stuck trying to escape his and Marin's bleak future. His tendency to blame everything on himself after being unable to change the known future, evident in his sense of responsibility for the death of Seyoung's dad, speaks for how much he cares about and treasures the few people he has in his life. My heart was with him this entire episode.

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Yeah, I know that everyone wants to yell at him to just live in the present, but when you really think about the position he's in, how can he not try to change it?

I wonder now if his future self telling him to not try so hard was because it was all futile in the end, or if it was because in retrospect, he could see how trying to prevent it just made the years he had left miserable.

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I remember what Future So Joon told Present So Joon. That he did all he can but eventually they will still end up dying. My ghad. I really hope Present So Joon realizes this so that he can't end up like the Future SJ.

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Argh this reminds me so much of Signal, where people supposed to die would still die in the end, no matter how much they tried to change things (except the villain did get caught). I have faith that Sojoon and Marin will survive in the end, just like how Detective Lee Jaehan survived, against all odds.

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My heart break for him so bad. I'm one of those that yell at him to stay in the freaking present (he's in a loop of self fulfilling prophesies in my humble opinion) but lords is it a hard thing to do and I myself would be unable to do so. I mean how do you just sit by and do nothing when you know someone you love and cherish and is like the only father figure you have since your own father got taken from you in a tragic accident (oh and he happens to be your father's best friend who took over said father's dreams after they died) is going to die. I too would be jumping in and out of future and present trying to save lives and things.

At the same time you can be smarter about it all. When more than one person says "prevent Se Young from leaving" by gods trying and do that. As much as I think the outcome would still have been the same, So Joon is sometime too caviler about the future. Too "I'm an omnipresent god who can do any and everything". He's sometimes too sure and arrogant in his own weak plans which leads to things happening the way that they do.

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It would make sense if SJ stay by SY's father side assuming it will be just an accident and not assuming another possibility, Doo Shik take apart to the whole accident. you know from episode 9 the show led SJ to believe there is some DS involvement regarding that accident. if it's just another accident, Ki dong will take care of it if SY's father went there. He is so certain if it's not accident, it must be Doo Shik who are the cause of the accident, so the only think he can think of is make DS stay away from Sy's father. . it turn out it's not the case. all his analysis went wrong. the circumstance is still happening. i think from this case, based on SJ char assumption, his action to thr whole accident make perfect sense.

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I'm a long time lurker, but I had to post today because I'm really really loving this show and more than the ratings, I'm so sad that my beloved recappers are less enthusiastic than I am.

My take regarding Ajusshi's death: Accidents may be preventable, but murders are not. If you know the circumstances before an accident, you can prevent it (like Ma-Rin with the Almost-Truck-of-Doom), but you can't account for all the variables when human intentions come into play. Even though So Joon knew Ajusshi would die, all he had to go on was the newspaper article, he didn't get to see it in person because Doo Shik stopped him. So he didn't know that the construction site was empty when the accident happened, etc. Since Director Kim was determined to kill Ajusshi, it would have happened regardless of the circumstances, because he would have just adapted. The only thing that could have prevented Ajusshi's death is stopping Director Kim by arresting him for embezzlement or something.

But, Doo Shik says for some reason that knowing that Director Kim is responsible leads to something bad happening to Ma Rin and So Joon. That's the biggest mystery IMO, more than So-Joon disappearing. I have faith in So Joon's determination to not let things fall apart, because it's the kind of thing I think he has control over. The only thing I can think is that if Kim is responsible somehow for the accident in the future, then wouldn't arresting him be a good thing? Unless the murder can't be proved and the crime of embezzlement would only get him 3 years in prison and the future "accident" is his revenge when he gets out. So maybe the best Doo-Shik could come up with to prevent the accident is to cover up the crimes so Kim never goes to prison? Am I spouting crazy theories that make no sense? Hopefully the show has thought through better than I have. I hate it when a good story is ruined by writers not clever enough to tell it!

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I agree. Murder differs from accidents in such that there's so much human intervention and will in making a murder happen, while accidents are unintentional. Ahjushhi will always be in danger from the hands of Director Kim.

Even if So Joon or Doo Shik managed to stop Director Kim from meeting Ahjusshi at the restaurant, they might still meet in another time because Ahjusshi has a long-established connection to the CEO that Director conned.

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I think we're screwed. I think Ajusshi's death today proves that So Joon and Ma Rin will die on March 25th as planned. Accidents, like Ma Rin's Truck of Doom, may be preventable, but Death will always find you. Even Ki Doong understood this is Final Destination when he countered, "What if he dies in Japan?" Why didn't one of them think to personally take Se Young and her father to the airport? As soon as So Joon found out about the new location, Ki Doong and Ma Rin should have called an ambulance on the way there.

I wonder if Ajusshi would have died had Doo Shik not pull out of the investment deal, since the only reason Director Kim swindled the president is due to a lack of funding. I honestly didn't think Director Kim had it in him to be a murderer. That's a pretty drastic step up from plotting to swallow So Joon's company.

Thanks for the recap, gummimochi!

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I think Ajusshi still would have died. I think that was what Doo Shik was trying to prevent when he approached Director Kim and tried to lure him away from MyReits. Of course, the plan backfired spectacularly, and gave Dir. Kim incentive for murder anyway, but my impression was that Kim killed Ajusshi in the "original" timeline, but for different reasons. Probably similar reasons, but it wouldn't have been Doo Shik pulling his investment.

Unless the timelines get mixed? Like we saw with So Joon seeing his newlywed home and panicking, breaking up with Ma Rin to create a new timeline, then getting back together with her, but still showing up from the past in the new timeline.

Gah! Am making my head hurt.

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Do Shik set up the business deal to lure Director Kim away from So Joon's company which suggests to me that Dir. Kim was already destined in a previous timeline to kill someone either deliberately or by accident. So Do Shik set in motion the current events in the hopes of a different outcome, but it didn't work.
So Joon and Marin are already in danger. Director Kim is super paranoid and he know's that Se Young's father told him about the bogus building sale. Directer Kim saw Marin at the 1st construction site. I don't know if she actually saw him but she did see the car. Dir. Kim will start to look very suspicious to So Joon if Marin did see him and can place him at the site. Since Dir. Kim is going crazy, he will need to stop the couple from figuring out his involvement. They won't be safe unless Dir. Kim skips the country immediately but he won't because that would put him in the spotlight.

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"Directer Kim saw Marin at the 1st construction site. I don’t know if she actually saw him but she did see the car."

And I think..that could be one of the reasons that lead to her death. From the accident we saw in the future, we could see that Ma Rin was the only one getting hit by the car, it just so happens that it also affected other cars that collided to So Joon's car.

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I agree about taking him personally to the airport. Man! That would be the reasonable, logical thing to do. If then, the plane would crash, that would have been another story. But So Joon was really not that clever... trying to catch the culprit instead of protecting the victim in a very plausible possible way...
No wonder he would feel guilty.

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Ahjussi still would have died. There are somethings that are beyond our control (and that's one thing both Do Shik and So Joon need to accept and both have yet to do).

Do Shik had set up the whole money funding deal to prevent director Kim from destroying myRetis and becoming whatever he is that ahjussi had already seen in the future. At some point in episode 9 ahjussi sees/realizes that it's all futile "your fate is your fate' and stops trying. Do Shik stopped trying to prevent the death and changing director Kim's destination future, because he couldn't. We are who we are, who we've been, and who we'll always be.

No matter what was or was not done, ahjussi was going to die (Ki Doong understand with his whole "he could die in Japan"). The execution it all could have been done much better in my humble opinion, but still the message is and continues to be clear. So Joon has to learn that not everything is in his control. Though he alters things, he really changes nothing. The future will be (and imho has already been, he's stuck in a loop) and the more you try to mess with it, the quicker you bring it about and make it happen.

For example, Ma Rin being at the site and finding the body. Was she always going to be there? Or did he see her there (in the future) and she ends up there, because So Joon in the present told her about it and thus she ended up there...however she was always going to be there because it just is...he was always going to see it...tell he it...and have her there...and was always going to be there because it just is....it's a loop of cause and effect and one and the other...it's life...your present affects your future just as your future goals and ambitions affect your present.

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I was also reluctant to accept that Director Kim would eventually become a murderer.

Honestly, I've asked myself what his motive as a villain really is. Why does he really hate SJ so much? Is it just simple jealousy and greed, because he thinks SJ looks down on him and doesn't work hard enough? Or is there a deeper motive?(I don't think there is)

I wish we could explore his character a little more. But the actor does a wonderful job in his performance. Every time he appears, I wanna wring his neck :) I also find that it's a really nice contrast that he kind of has a high-pitched voice and innocent-looking face, but a really dark personality. When I take that into consideration, I can almost understand why SJ is none the wiser about his true nature.

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Agreed. His portrayal of a villainous character is spot on. He's weak more than he is evil. More beta than alpha.

I think his character goes to show a very realistic version of evil in the world. The kind that isn't necessarily motivated by the will to seek revenge, or wreak havoc. The kind that's just trying to save his own ass and has a serious lapse of judgment.

I thought the drama was going to head in a direction of giving him and his wife the role of comic relief, but I was clearly wrong about that.

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It's frustrating for the viewers to watch this episode when all of us has our own way of trying to stop Ajushi's death. Some might think that So Joon and Doo Shik thought poorly and didn't manage it well. Personally, I thought it was a very realistic action from all of them. As a time traveller, So Joon can visit the future as much as he can, but he can only get a single chance to change it in the present without looking overly suspicious or crazy. Evacuating the people involved from the scene of the crime, sending KiDoong over there to make sure nothing happens, Marin escorting them -- I can't blame So Joon from thinking that it might have been enough to change things. He can only do so much.

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There are three things that you can't change in life your birth, your soulmate, and your death. Mark my words: I think both Ma Rin and So Joon are going to died. I just hope that the writer could make their remaining times beautiful and wonderful...

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Sadly, I also believe it, and it is a thrill!!

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I believe someone mentioned in another episode's thread that fate happens regardless of what anyone does. For example although So Joon prevented Ma rin being hit by the car she was still in a car accident, although the car didn't hit her. In the case of Ahjusshi he was going to die regardless. I thought the execution to get there was sloppy(first time being disappointed in the writing). You know he dies in an empty construction lot, why would you send everyone away. However the point is that certain things are inevitable regardless of what you do.

Unfortunately for So Joon I think the only time he can actually affect an event is if it involves himself. The example I gave above of Ma Rin still being in the car accident although she was not injured involved So Joon because he was there. Ahjussi and Do Shik didn't personally involve him so he couldn't prevent it. All the things that involve him personally change, but not things that involve an outside third party. Another example is the his company, it did not exist in the future, he created it and grew it so that it could exist in the future. He changed one future to another possible future. I don't know if I articulated this properly. My point though is that there is still some hope that So Joon and Ma Rin survive because it involves him and his ability to make a harmful incident less harmful.

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I like that you bring up the idea of fatalism and free will, however, when I began thinking about it as it applies to this show I got a headache. lol.

I thought the execution to get there was sloppy(first time being disappointed in the writing). You know he dies in an empty construction lot, why would you send everyone away. However the point is that certain things are inevitable regardless of what you do.

I think you answer your own question here. So Joon may have known that Se-Young's father would be killed but he did not know what was the cause of the accident--Doo-Shik on the other hand did. As a result, in his actions to save Se-young's father, he helped facilitate it. Also, he did not send everyone away as he had asked Ki-Doong to go to what they believed to be the accident site. Ma Rin would also go to the site later to look for Se-Young's father. Since both character knew what So Joon did about the accident, both characters being there changed the future slightly. This predestination paradox has been part of a domino effect that can one might be able to continue tracing back to both So Joon and Doo-Shiks actions to change the present/future. Director Kim may not have put two and two together if it weren't for the meeting So Joon wanted to have with Se-Young's father, and so on and so on.

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Why the dad want two of them got married and have children in the first place, if he knew both of them gonna die and nothing gonna change that?

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My working theory and continued belief is that ahjussi and So Joon are caught in a loop of life. In one life, in one loop, in one destined outcome that ahjussi once saw in one of his future travels, both Ma Rin and So Joon are happily living ever after with 3 children and a dog.

Somewhere along the path of life this all changed (I for one believe it's when ahjussi himself started to mess with time and lives) and ahjussi has been trying to alter and get things back to that first destined outcome he had foreseen. The irony imho, is that all his maneuvering and such is what is causing this ongoing loop and preventing that future from happening. Heck I believe he (and So Joon) and all their time traveling fun the first place is what caused and prevented all this.

I believed So Joon and Ma Rin were always destined to be together. However when people started playing with time and fate, the destination (Ma Rin and So Joon together) wasn't changed, it's just the journey there that was. Things have been altered, new path created. However the outcome and final destination remains the same. So ahjussi set all this up knowing what could be and should be and he has seen be, and now he's just trying to workout the getting there. He (and So Joon) are in a ongoing loop of trying to get there (3 kids and a dog).

However take my theory with a grain of salt. I worked all this out when I once believed ahjussi was future future So Joon. So there's that...

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what make Director Kim change the location? He went to the original location right? then he left and saw marin.

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If you've ever seen the film series Final Destination think about it like that; you can't change the fact that you or another will die in the immediate future. This drama takes it up a notch by using time travel paradoxes. In Se-Young's father's case, it's probably something like the Predestination Paradox and/or Bootstrap Paradox. So Joon goes to the future, finds out about an event he wants to change, goes back to the present (past) to change it, but it still happens anyway, just in a different way.

There are two really cool Vsauce3 YouTube video that talk about these paradoxes. The first one is much shorter and to the point. I've included a link here and the two below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOwRb584r1c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpB3kan4BHQ&t=4s

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I think it is because he saw Ki Doog's car at the site.

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one thing I've had a question about has been why future sojoon does travel to the past and change things too. it future sojoon exist since we know present time line sojoon has spoken to him. or is that something he cant do? like why hasn't future sojoon tried to change his present by changing the past?

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He gave up.
That you can feel in his conversation with So joon from the past came the other day (I think, it was in chapter 7) and called him on the phone. He was even there before Ma rin was hit to death, and he just waited also death to come for him. He was resigned there was nothing he could do, not even taking her out of that spot.
And what it makes me angrier is that actually, she is going to be there, because he made an appointment. He came back from the future, knowing (again) they would die that day, and he tells her to meet him there in the future so that he will tell her everything!
It nerves me!
But, on the other hand, that looked like only then he would tell about time travelling, and yet, he did it in chapter 9 and in this chapter, so... at the end, who knows? maybe really the future will change...
maybe, for the best...
maybe

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Thanks for another fine recap, gummimochi!

This is one show in which being an omniscient observer as a member of the audience is giving me headaches. It isn't helping that the law of unintended consequences is working overtime.

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"Do you hear that? That’s the sound of my heart shattering into a million pieces." that's how I'm feeling!! *sobing* now it's like this damn future isn't going to change and that's hoorifying!! *sobing*

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Hmm, why is it horrifying? As a viewer looking in, I don't see them dying in the end as horrifying. They have been given a second chance to live. For me, so Joon and Ma Rin's long private conversations by the seashore (or on the streets), their intimacy on the bed, and their daily flirtations show they are enjoying every moment of their lives. They are together. They are going thru the ups and downs together. That matters to me. And if they do die in the end, those are the memories I will remember long after the drama is gone.

It's not the end that matters. It's the journey.

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You know what will piss me off. That they live happily ever after. The show is better than that.

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Exactly. I would honestly prefer they die instead of living happily ever after. I don't think that was the moral of the story anyway.

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I feel the same way as you. This is one show where I can truly accept death in the end. Death is a part of life. Death is not always sad an miserable and tragic. It's something that will happen to us all, and depending on how it's done in the show (and going from the narrative thus far I think it can be done well) it can be heart breaking but also beautiful and poignant and resonating.

I want them to die (no I want the accident to happen and whatever outcome that was always going to be come. I never thought they die and feel ahjussi didn't see everything/we weren't shown everything). Somethings in life simply can't be changed and shouldn't be changed. Appreciate the nows that lead to the tomorrows. I feel the show has been pretty clear on it's message/lesson thus far, and hope it sticks with it. Thank gods for it being pre-produced fully so I just trust where it's headed.

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I love the direction of the show, I don't care about the ratings, the show has a cult following.
I believe DS did what he did because it was probably So Joon or Se Young’s dad who had to die. I also, believe he truly wants Ma-rin and SoJoon to be happy, which is something he could not be. Also, death seems to be a theme in a lot of the dramas lately. Death can't be stopped, it can be moved, but it eventually catches up with you. I also, understand that SoJoon can't find out who killed Se Young's father (take revenge), but Director Kim is already going to be suspicious of what Ma-rin was doing at the site. This fact alone puts her in danger. Can't wait for the next episodes.

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"but Director Kim is already going to be suspicious of what Ma-rin was doing at the site. This fact alone puts her in danger."

And I believe it would be one of the reasons Ma Rin might die. Though the predicted year is still far from the present, it is still consider as a variable for that D-Day

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Not sure if it's due to the dramatic nature of this episode but I love how passionate this comment forum is! Whenever I despair at the ratings of this show I become reassured again by the comment forum of these recaps! And I love how this particular episode has theories unleashed abound! It's my first time following the recap of a time-travelling drama and I'm not sure if the comment forums tend to be so passionate and...intellectual; compared to the gushing comments of beautiful characters and outfits in other dramas, I am loving the buzz from the thinking caps of the commenters here!!

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Hear, hear!

Passionate and intellectual at the right words.

I am so grateful for the discussion as well. They are wonderful to read.

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I think it's because this drama has an interesting depth to it that comes from the combination of time travel and deeply flawed characters. The funny thing though is that even though time travel is fantastical, these characters in and of themselves aren't which makes them (annoyingly) relatable.

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I don't want to jinx it, but I think TWY's recaps (or DB in general) by far has the most pleasant and most insightful discussion, beautifully written as well.

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Cheers to that! I'd love to spend TWY'all chatting away about this fascinating drama.

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all aboard the feels train :(((
I knew it!!! things will go down to a tragedy from the first time I saw the poster
not that I regret this though

just feel sad for our cute couple :(
i swear both deserve happyness...

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My heart broke so much for So Joon this episode. Time travel is such a curse especially since life is life and try as you may things somethings are bound to happen, have to happen, and although you may not know it at the moment, there is a reason.

It hurt so much to see him try and fail this episode. Oh lord and that ending. Both of them crying had me crying so hard. I cried for ahjussi, for the hopelessness of it all, for them, and for that soul crushing, "we don't have much time left" Why do you do this to me show.

Ahjussi. Oh poor poor ahjussi. The whole time I"m just screaming at the screen, "please no, don't go...just head to the airport...don't take the ride...please no...Ma Rin, Ki Doong, someone..." Gosh, director Kim has truly lost his ever loving mind and now I fear for Ma Rin's safety since he saw her (though she didn't see him but may remember the car..). Ugh I wonder if So Joon's investigations has director Kim kill him and that's how he "disappears" and if all that is tied into the car accident of 2019.

Thank you for the recap of a truly shattering episode.

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First off, I must admit the preview shown in episode 9 made me less nervous while watching this episode because I knew what would gonna happen (I should listen to my past-self to stop being curious about the future episode by seeing the preview. ugh). BUT, my heart broke into million pieces when I saw how our OTP's journey would end. I felt like I was cheated by the show's showing the lovey dovey moments first before it threw the storm right in our face.
That aside, I want to know what was the Director Kim's original motive to kill SY's dad in the previous timeline before DooShik intervened the whole thing. Also, I knew SJ knew SY's dad would die, I couldn't help but felt frustrated when he came late to the construction site and didn't seem to call police or ambulance or something (Those might intentionally left unseen, but I was a little bit impatient there lol).
Anyway, I totally love MaRin's and SoJoon's winter coats. And I see that SJ always wears a white shirt in every episode hmmm.

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Hah. Could this be wearing white shirt in almost every episode intentional hints of their future? Or his future? Will he really die along with his beloved wife?
Or maybe he is an angel in disguise?! Goshh all in all I'm digging all his white shirts. He looked so hot in them. Hahahahaha XD

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LOL at 'angel in disguise' comment.
This is out topic but I dig more all the little(?) details that could show SJ's true intention towards Ma-rin. Like how he always does the opposite thing with what he claims (hating being a model, doing it anyway. Telling her the ramyun is difficult to get, doing a bulk buying. etc), how he suddenly and adorably becomes a MR's trash by following her around with that puppy gesture as he walks (don't know how to describe it lmao), how he caresses MR's hands while he explains, how he gives that longing look, and how he has that wedding ring on his finger.

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Poor So Joon. Being a time traveler has made him complacent about the wrong things--most significantly his business--blind siding him about the things he actually want's to change--his and the deaths of his loved ones.

I used to think that Ma Rin and So Joon were the only ones who had a case of the blind leading the blind. After this episode, it seems like this applies to almost everybody. What's worse is the feeling of entitlement that So Joon still seems to have, but the inflated level it's having on Director Kim.

This show reminded me about the seven deadly sins more than any other show I've watched recently because of the way it highlights each sin in certain characters and So Joon. It would be even more interesting to see how he overcomes these sins. He has started already, but progress is a bit slow.

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I like to think of it as "the naked leads the blind"

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I'm still mad that Sabu (Se young's father, and yes, some people just can't forget his other death, *cough*Healer*cough*) had to die. Really. I'm blaming DS and SJ for this. I'm pretty sure if both were honest enough, then they could at least save Sabu from dying... just a few scratches.

Btw, I'm loving the one-shot conversations!

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He was *too nice*, his death was basically inevitable. :'(

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Curious though that the fortune teller cannot see anything on Marin and So Joon.

Could it be that they are meant to die in the train crash? Dooshik did something that day to save his daughter and consequently, So Joon? And borrowing from Goblin, both are missing souls?

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FINALLY some action! Future travelling has always worked for Soo Joon so I'm glad we can see that some things are irreversible.

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It would make sense if SJ stay by SY’s father side assuming it will be just an accident and not assuming another possibility, Doo Shik take apart to the whole accident. you know from episode 9 the show led SJ to believe there is some DS involvement regarding that accident. if it’s just another accident, Ki dong will take care of it if SY’s father went there. He is trusting his friend to avoid the accident happened. He is so certain if it’s not accident, it must be Doo Shik who are the cause of the accident, so the only think he can think of is make DS stay away from Sy’s father. . it turn out it’s not the case. all his analysis went wrong. the circumstance is still happening. i think from this case, based on SJ char assumption, his action to the whole accident make perfect sense. despite from our point of view, he is clumsy how to handle it. he is not thinking anothet possibility another person involved.

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Curious though that the fortune teller cannot see anything on Marin and So Joon.

I think based on that scene, the show tell us they are supposed to be dead, so they are not supposed to be in this world., means they are suposed to be have no future ahead of them. But the fact is they are still alive

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Maybe they are supposed to be dead during that train accident.

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Thanks a lot for the recap gummimochi...!!
I always love reading the comments here because the complexity also all the good theory. (Also the Hwarang thread, because they're all hilarious to boot)

I can't help but write down my frustation here (sigh)
I feel like Seyoung's father death is indeed inevitable, but so wasted, I mean, someone as nice as him has to died that way, and because only he knows something that wasn't even on his radar for danger at all, he happened to Knows one CEO and other CEO! This very information maybe not even special for him (but very important for Dir Kim,yeah).
This may give us big lesson, never take anything for granted, like even knowing something you thought unimportant can lead you to something big (not always death tough) hahah my poor mind, thinking unnecesary.

About Sojoon clumsiness, it's really there, constantly, result of his mighty way of thinking, even tough he changed a bit, with sharing to the closest person he has, but Marin and Kidoong were so kind tough and keep up with him even tough Sojoon always answer vaguely, and not to mention demanding with his order. He just did not take someone advise too well, I dunno maybe he forgot? Or he just doesn't want to follow order from others? Mystery then.

Watching the preview for next week, I bet he will said that Marin should leave him. Greaatt then, another angst.... I just hope he will kindly explain to us the reason (or writer nim, jebal)

Fightingg for the rest of episodes!!

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Im so frustrated. Marin was right when she called Sojoon Dense with a capital D. The man is not learning.

They literally showed you that the obsessions and interference with an event that did not happen is what caused it. I love how the director made sure to show us all the details.

If a murder happened at an empty construction site then my logic would be to make sure the site was filled with potential witnesses.

You saw the headline and instead of calling an ambulance to go while you go, you go there for what? Confirmation. Arghhh im so damn upset. Maybe crazy director was destined to kill the chairman but it didnt have to be then.

Sojoon lacks listening skills! Man ur employee is a rotten egg and you only dismissing it.

Arghhh im so blue over this episode. ????

Damn you i dont want another day with you!!!

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What's with the previews? Wouldn't it be way more intriguing to finish every episode with a "preview" showing the last day of their lifes?
If the direction of their actions in an angoing episode was wrong - death, when right - kids and three dogs...

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How should I compile these...
well.. let me try..

Soo Joon didn't know then, or even now, that uncle was murdered. All he knew were an article from the future telling about accident in construction site and marin bathing in blood calling him for help desperately. With all of that chaos, there was a very suspicious and mysterious time traveler suddenly pop out doing exactly suspicious stuff in crime scene. What do you think he would think at that time?
Would he think there would be a murder? If he thought there would be a murder would he suspect his hard working employee or a shady time traveler? It could have been Marin herself... That's why he was so desperate to cut Marin out of the variable. Because he himself didn't know the full picture of the incident or even everyone's part on it.

He knew there would be an incident, so let's just make everyone out of the crime scene so he wouldn't need to be there in the first place. Let's send him faraway with the daughter to close off any possibility he would be in the crime scene at all. And just to be sure if it was actually a murder, let's kidnap the sole suspect to the future so he wouldn't try to do funny things. In the paper it is not exactly clean, but logically effective. His absent knowledge over director kim's involvement in the variable is the fatal flaw of his plan.

But how would he know?

He is dense, naive, and clumsy with all of his poor choices. But I don't think his choices were irrational. It is within his vision and knowledge.

And about ambulance. I agree with you. But then I remember how could he explain to the police about calling an ambulance before he reach the construction site when he himself couldn't explain how he knew that uncle would be there in bloody pool in the first place. So I forgave him.

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Welp!!

This should be a reply for Kibble!! @[email protected]

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I am way late to the comment game, but I think it's kind of nice to write after reading everyone's robust comments!

One thing I was thinking as we were at Seyoung's dad's funeral, and there was a shot of Seyoung, her mom, Kidoong, and then Seo Joon... all just obviously reeling from his death- was how each of them could potentially blame themselves for his death. Seyoung could blame herself for leaving for Japan on the day her father passed. Thinking if it wasn't for her trip, her dad could have gone on the workshop trip with the rest of the Happiness crew and have been fine. Seyoung's mom could blame herself for not being with Seyoung's dad and instead choosing to go to the workshop. Kidoong blaming himself for knowing that Seyoung's dad was going to die, but being unable to stop it. Same for Seojoon and Marin.
I think there's actually very little difference in the way that Kidoong, Seojoon, and Marin are grieving and the way that those who don't know the future (Seyoung and her mom) are grieving. It's just natural to somehow blame yourself and go through the "what ifs" when someone dies. Of course, Seojoon feels it on a very literal level. But I think that ajussi's death sort of reminded us all that when confronted with death- there's a human reaction that's universal, whether you're a time traveler or not. And it's something I wish Sojoon could see. My heart broke for our hero also because I know he was carrying the weight for Marin and Kidoong who were new to it all. He had been the one who kept reassuring them that all would be well.

Also I loved Kidoong's reaction to Sojoon wanting to tell him about the ominous event. First- the fact that he didn't want to know at all, and second- the fact that he was just so pissed/scared when he learned that ajussi would die. It really resonated with me and felt so human. Of course I'd be terrified and paralyzed and not want to know and then if I did know, I'd just freeze, not knowing what to do with the information.

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Anyone else actually feel sorry for Gun Sook when D. Kim arrived home with his muddy shoes...I don't like GS but I don't think she deserves to end up married to a murderer. Oh the irony of all her boasting about marrying a rich company director. First, he's not too loving. Second, he starts embezzling and tells her they need to skip the country. And now he's killed someone. Poor GS's life is seriously going downhill.

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If So Jun knew that Director Kim was the culprit, Se Young’s father could have been saved. They could’ve followed him and caught him in the act. Doo-shik keeping it a secret was VERY stupid.

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