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Bride of the Water God 2017: Episode 14

Finally, some answers! Everything makes so much more sense with a little backstory, though knowing the truth only makes the gods’ current problems that much more complicated. And So-ah has her own struggles to deal with—with a handsome, charming water god in the house, it was only a matter of time before she started feeling the effects of his presence.


 
EPISODE 14 RECAP

Hu-ye stands shocked, staring at Jin-geon lying unconscious on the ground after shielding Bi-ryum from his dark power. Bi-ryum asks angrily if Hu-ye remembers who he killed now. Mura and Ha-baek materialize, and Mura asks what he means by that.

Having been left behind at the hotel, So-ah recalls what Bi-ryum said about her knowing who Hu-ye really is. She starts putting the clues together, between vague things that Ha-baek has said and the time she saw Hu-ye’s instantly healing wound.

Mura asks Bi-ryum, “Was it Mo-myung? Did he kill Mo-myung??” Bi-ryum says that he’s killed Hu-ye countless times in his imagination, even wishing their powers were swapped. Then he thought about how Hu-ye had to live through endless life cycles locked up in that cave, and he decided it was a good revenge.

But he says that seeing Hu-ye outside and living well infuriated him, and he pulls back a fist to punch him again. Ha-baek stops him with a soft word, and Bi-ryum disappears.

They take Jin-geon back to Bi-ryum’s house to recover, and Mura tells Ha-baek that she thinks Hu-ye pulled his power back at the last second, otherwise Jin-geon would be dead. She asks Ha-baek when Bi-ryum first met Hu-ye and what he meant about a cave, and he in turn asks her who Mo-myung is.

Mura tells him that Mo-myung was Jin-geon’s twin brother, and that he and Bi-ryum were very close. She tells Ha-baek that it took her a long time to realize that Mo-myung hadn’t been around for a while. She wonders why Bi-ryum never told her, remembering how he said he couldn’t tell her because she was the one asking.

Meanwhile, Hu-ye is still in a state of shock, his ugly past having been brought to the forefront of his mind by his actions today. He’s haunted by Bi-ryum’s words that he doesn’t deserve freedom, and he huddles alone in an abandoned building, shaking and crying.

So-ah is back home when Ha-baek returns, and she asks if Hu-ye is from the Realm of the Gods. She can see the truth in his face and asks why Ha-baek never told her, and he answers that she never asked, and that Hu-ye is not like them.

She guesses that the gods were the ones who told Hu-ye he shouldn’t have been born, and Ha-baek demands to know when they talked of such things. He asks jealously if they started talking after he left, or even earlier, then something in his voice turns vulnerable as he asks So-ah if she was hoping he would leave.

He gets angry again and asks if she broke down in tears after he left instead of enduring, and if she gave her heart away so easily because of that. So-ah gapes incredulously as Ha-baek darkly reminds her that he is a very jealous and irrational god.

He storms up to his rooftop room and collapses on the couch, then he remembers a conversation he once had with Bi-ryum in the Realm of the Gods. Ha-baek had told Bi-ryum that Nak-bin, the woman who’d betrayed him, was hiding in the Sky Realm, in a cave owned by the king. Ha-baek had asked him to go there as a favor.

He’d assured Bi-ryum that he wasn’t trying to save Nak-bin, he just wanted to know what he was to her. Now Ha-baek realizes that that cave must be where Bi-ryum first met Hu-ye.

So-ah calls Yeom-mi for advice, asking “for a friend” why someone would suddenly get angry in the middle of a conversation. Yeom-mi barks, “Break up with him!” HA. So-ah shoots down Yeom-mi’s guesses that the guy has anger issues or is a jerk, but Yeom-mi nails it when she says that he probably feels guilty about something.

Mura finds Bi-ryum moping on the roof of a skyscraper, and Ha-baek goes to speak to him. He asks if Bi-ryum met Hu-ye in that cave so long ago, and if that’s when Mo-myung died. Bi-ryum doesn’t answer and Hu-ye grows upset, asking why he lied and said he never went there.

We see in flashback that Bi-ryum had refused to go look for Nak-bin, angry at Ha-baek for falling for a human woman and making Mura sad. In the present, Bi-ryum admits that he changed his mind and decided to do Ha-baek a favor, and that he’s regretted it ever since.

Bi-ryum tells Ha-baek that Nak-bin hid in the same cave where Hu-ye had been locked up, and another flashback shows him and Mo-myung finding Nak-bin and Hu-ye, who was still a small child. Mo-myung had stepped towards Nak-bin, and little Hu-ye had weakly attacked the minor god. They’d all been surprised when the king’s soldiers arrived to take Nak-bin away, and Hu-ye had been knocked to the ground in the struggle.

Seeing the one person who’d been kind to him being taken away, Hu-ye had lost control of his powers, and a blast of black smoke and fire had engulfed everyone he thought was attacking Nak-bin. The soldiers and Mo-myung had fallen dead, leaving Bi-ryum staring at the young boy who radiated dark power.

Bi-ryum saw that Mo-myung was dead, but before he could do anything but scream in grief, Jin-geon had arrived and dragged Bi-ryum away. He’d only stopped for a moment to glance back at his twin brother’s body.

Distraught, Ha-baek asks why Bi-ryum kept this from him. Another voice says, “It was the king’s order,” and he sees a recovered Jin-geon standing nearby with Mura. Ha-baek says that Mo-myung died because of him, because he asked Bi-ryum to find Nak-bin, but Jin-geon says that it’s nobody’s fault.

He tells Ha-baek that, as twins, he and Mo-myung shared the same fate and that one of them was going to die eventually. But Mura goes to Ha-baek and says that it was his fault, then she punches him in the face.

She takes Bi-ryum’s hand and leads him away. Mura takes Bi-ryum home and says that she knows he’s carrying around a lot of hatred and anger, especially for himself, and she asks him to let it go. She says she knows he feels guilty for running away, as if he abandoned Mo-myung, but he just scowls at her and turns to walk away.

Mura calls after Bi-ryum that she’s sorry, which stops him in his tracks. She recalls when the High Priest told them about half-gods, and how she’d told Bi-ryum to run away if he ever saw one, and she asks if her words pushed him to run that day.

She tells Bi-ryum that he didn’t run away—Jin-geon pulled him away. She puts a hand over Bi-ryum’s heart and says that she knows part of him wanted to run and was grateful that Jin-geon forced him, and asks if that’s what he really feels guilty for.

Bi-ryum turns his grief-filled eyes to Mura, and she knows she’s right. She tells him that what he did actually saved Jin-geon’s life, because if something had happened to Bi-ryum, the Sky Realm would have had Jin-geon killed.

Mura tells Bi-ryum not to listen to her anymore, because when he does, there are always consequences. She says, “This is the greatest comfort I can give you,” and she takes his face in her hands and kisses him softly. She pulls back and asks if he’s all better now, and Bi-ryum scoffs, “Are you kidding me?” and pulls her closer to kiss her again.

Hu-ye is still huddled in the abandoned building when the little blind girl Min comes looking for him. She says that she can feel that he’s there, but Hu-ye doesn’t respond to her, not even when she trips and falls, though it nearly kills him not to help her.

Eventually Min leaves, and as soon as she’s gone, Hu-ye’s anger and self-hatred explode. He screams and throws things until he runs out of steam, then sinks to his knees, sobbing.

So-ah tries to figure out what Ha-baek meant when he said that Hu-ye isn’t one of them. She remembers Hu-ye saying that he didn’t know his mother, and his father treated him like a monster and kept him locked up so others wouldn’t find out about him.

She also recalls that Ha-baek once said that in the Realm of the Gods, the concept of family is very different. Something occurs to her, and she asks herself what she plans to do when she sees Hu-ye again.

Ha-baek comes home, and he wraps So-ah in a hug and apologizes for what he said. She starts to ask him something, but she sees his troubled expression and changes her mind. She teasingly asks if he was out begging his friends for money, making him smile, then she says, “Food!” to his stomach just to listen to it growl.

She goes out to get the ingredients for curry, leaving Ha-baek behind to peel potatoes. He sees a cute picture of So-ah on a beach and decides to take it out of the frame to straighten it. The whole thing falls apart, and when he picks it up, he sees that there was another photo behind the first. It’s a picture of So-ah as a child with her father. Ha-baek puts the pictures back like he found them.

On her way home, So-ah is distracted looking up curry recipes on her phone. Someone grabs her from behind, and when Ha-baek goes outside to meet her, all he finds is the groceries and So-ah’s phone lying on the ground.

Luckily, it’s only Geol-rin who took So-ah, but she still screams bloody murder and tries to escape once he stops the car. He grabs her and yells that he just wants her to see Hu-ye, so she stops fighting.

She finds Hu-ye in the abandoned building, still curled up in a ball of misery. He tries to leave when he sees her, yelling at her to leave, but she grabs him in a backhug and orders him to be still. She says soothingly that it’s okay, and Hu-ye heaves a big sigh and relaxes.

Ha-baek paces at Bi-ryum’s penthouse with Mura watching, until So-ah calls him to say she’s okay. He knows she’s with Hu-ye and orders her back, but she says that she knows what Hu-ye is and that he won’t harm her.

When they hang up, Mura agrees that Hu-ye wouldn’t hurt So-ah, and she tells Ha-baek to give up So-ah and let Hu-ye have her. She reminds Ha-baek that Hu-ye is rich and can do more for So-ah than he can, refusing to help him teleport to her.

Hu-ye tells So-ah to go home, even screaming at her, but she refuses to obey. He says that he destroys everything and that he almost killed her once. So-ah calmly asks if he thinks his sin will never go away, and Hu-ye answers yes, and that he could sin again at any time. He growls that he’ll never change, but So-ah tells him that he’s not that kind of a person.

He scoffs at her use of the word “person,” so she asks if he’d rather be a god. She tells him that being a person suits him better, because he helps so many people and supports so many children. She says that the work he does as a human being makes him like a god to those he helps.

She continues that if a god were looking down, they would see a tiny human being, helping other humans in a tiny country on a tiny planet called Earth. She says that the god would be thankful for Hu-ye’s help taking care of his people, and say that he did well. He begins to cry at her words. She reminds Hu-ye that she once said that the trees he plants will become a huge forest, and she assures him that the days he has lived until now will never disappear.

So-ah tells him that if he decides to live as a person, then she’ll be on his side no matter what happens. He stares up at her, unable to believe that she sees so much good in him, as tears stream down his face. Hu-ye starts to say something, but Ha-baek arrives just then and pulls So-ah away.

As Ha-baek drives her home, So-ah tells him that she’s Hu-ye’s therapist. Ha-baek refuses to speak or respond, and So-ah says that jealousy is better than no jealousy, but since she’s never been with a jealous guy before, she can’t tell if Ha-baek is being jealous or not. Ha-baek still doesn’t speak, but he takes her hand in his and squeezes it tightly.

When they get home, So-ah offers to make Ha-baek something to eat. Instead he whirls her around and kisses her hard, and though she’s confused, So-ah kisses him back. Ha-baek walks her backwards up the stairs and pushes her onto the couch, never breaking the kiss, but just as things are getting hot and heavy he suddenly jumps up with his hands in the air.

Somehow in total control, he says they should stop, and So-ah blurts out, “Why?!” Ha-baek sticks his nose in the air and says that candy shouldn’t be eaten all at once, then wishes So-ah a good night. ARGH, your time together is limited, why are you wasting it?

Ha, Ha-baek isn’t as composed as he’d like So-ah to think, and he nearly goes right back to her before getting himself under control and going up to his room. In the morning he does frantic push-ups to work off his excess energy, as So-ah sits on the couch, twitching and trying to chase the thoughts of that searing kiss out of her mind.

Her eyes go round as saucers when Ha-baek enters the room, and she sees him surrounded by a bright light and little sparkly hearts. HAHA, is he actually glistening?? Yep, he’s totally glistening, and So-ah even imagines that his collarbone twinkles.

Ha-baek appears cool as a cucumber as he asks to use So-ah’s shower. He heads upstairs, taking his shirt off as he goes, and the sight of his muscular back actually makes So-ah scream, lol. She collapses on the couch, wondering what Ha-baek did to her last night. I think it’s more what he didn’t do to her.

She gets a text from Hu-ye asking to meet with her today, claiming that she should check on her patient. He seems much better, back at work and taking care of business with Secretary Min.

Jaya comes into Hu-ye’s office, tentatively approaching Hu-ye while sneaking little glances at Secretary Min. She has no real excuse for being there, and just stammers and stares at Secretary Min as Hu-ye tells her he has nothing left to discuss with her regarding the mall project. Finally she asks Secretary Min if he’s busy, and Hu-ye stares at them both incredulously.

Once alone, Jaya demands to know why Secretary Min is ignoring her calls, belatedly remembering to call him oppa. He says that he didn’t want to talk to her, snapping that he didn’t tell her about Hu-ye liking So-ah so that she could have her grandfather kick So-ah out of her office space.

Jaya misunderstands, assuming that Secretary Min likes So-ah too. But he says he doesn’t like anyone; he just wants Jaya to become a decent person. He forbids her to contact him until then, and tells her that her plan has failed before walking away.

When So-ah arrives at Hu-ye’s office, she finds him with little Min, drawing pictures of the flowers they planted. So-ah realizes the girl is blind but she doesn’t say anything about it, and Min precociously asks if this is the Yoon So-ah that she overheard Hu-ye talking to, regarding a promise that had to be kept.

Min says that he was in a really good mood at the time, and HAHA, Hu-ye looks so embarrassed. He tries to interject awkwardly, and then he’s saved by Secretary Min’s return.

After sending Min home, Hu-ye explains to So-ah that Min is his neighbor and his only friend, and that her blindness is his fault. He explains that for the first few years he was in the human world, he struggled to control his powers. He tells So-ah that on his first day at his farm, Min’s grandmother left the infant girl alone for a few moments, and she was attacked by a wild dog.

In his haste, he’d used his power to get the dog off of Min, and his power had killed the dog and damaged Min’s eyes. He says that now he feels responsible for Min and lives his life as if it were hers. When So-ah doesn’t respond, he tells her that he’s just decided something—that it’s not a bad idea to enjoy this regardless of her intentions.

So-ah is confused, but Hu-ye just smiles and says she doesn’t need to know what he means. He says that he feels like they’ve met before, a long time ago, remembering her soothing words when she’d given him the backhug. He’d heard those exact words being said once before, but in a man’s voice.

Namsuri responds to a summons from Yeom-mi and finds her asleep in her shop. She talks in her sleep and Namsuri adorably answers her, then leaps back in a fighting stance when she suddenly cries out, hee.

She’s dreaming about So-ah again, unable to hear what So-ah is saying to her. Dream So-ah looks towards the door and says, “That person… that person is the one who saved me, but…” and then her voice fades again. They both see someone walk into the room, shoes soaking wet, but we still don’t see the other person’s face.

Yeom-mi jerks awake with a shriek, startling poor Namsuri all over again. She says that she was dreaming about So-ah bragging about her boyfriend saving her life, then she perks up and decides that Namsuri must really be good for her powers because having him there enabled her to finally hear So-ah.

So-ah cleans the office in anticipation of the building’s new owner coming to visit, but Sang-yoo gets a call from a sick friend and has to leave. Knowing that Ha-baek is on his way to pick her up, So-ah picks up her phone to call him, and she’s startled when she imagines him posing on the screen.

She shakes it off and face-times Ha-baek, choosing an app that adds little kitten ears and whiskers to her face. Ha-baek’s reaction is funny, but not as funny as So-ah’s when his image morphs into a picture of his broad, bare sexy shoulders. She screams, and Ha-baek screams back, and So-ah quickly hangs up. LOL.

Ha-baek heads out and finds Bi-ryum standing in So-ah’s living room. Bi-ryum grumpily says that Mura made him come and listen to Ha-baek, and Ha-baek says again that Mo-myung died because of him, and that he’s lived all this time without even knowing it.

He apologizes to Bi-ryum, adding that Hu-ye was probably trying to protect Nak-bin. Bi-ryum says that he needs time to process this, but Ha-baek stops him before he leaves.

HA, Bi-ryum tells Mura later that Ha-baek asked for money, even trying to make it a kingly order. Bi-ryum had refused, and Mura warns him never to give Ha-baek money. Bi-ryum grins at her temper tantrum and asks if he can kiss her, but she snarls at him to drive, so he suggests they do something even naughtier at home.

So-ah is about to jump out of her skin as she waits for Ha-baek, so she goes to get drinks for the building owner. Ha-baek arrives before she comes back, and he’s not pleased to find Hu-ye waiting in So-ah’s office.

Hu-ye says that he’s here as the new landlord, then when Ha-baek doesn’t know what that means, Hu-ye smirks that it’s someone that’s sometimes more powerful than a god. Ha-baek tells Hu-ye to get lost, but Hu-ye just reminds Ha-baek that he’ll still be here with So-ah when Ha-baek returns to the Realm of the Gods.

Just as Ha-baek seems about to throw a punch, So-ah returns, and she’s confused as to why Hu-ye is here. Ha-baek orders her not to speak to Hu-ye, tosses Hu-ye the keys, and tells him to lock up on his way out, and pulls So-ah out of the office.

Ha-baek drives like a bat out of hell as So-ah smiles at his obvious display of jealousy. She chirps that he’s charming even when he’s jealous, earning an incredulous look from Ha-baek and completely defusing his anger.

They decide to go see the sunset, and they end up on a rock outcropping looking over the sea. As the sun goes down, So-ah tells Ha-baek that she came here once with her parents, but they argued so much that it just made her anxious.

She asks what Ha-baek is thinking about, and he says, “Tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, and the day after that. A day when I’m no longer here with you.” So-ah tells him to only think of today, and reminds him that he once told her about people who are able to live the rest of their lives with the memories of today, and ha, Ha-baek doesn’t remember saying that.

Darkness falls, and So-ah muses that when something fades in the sun it becomes history, and if it’s bathed in moonlight it becomes a myth. She says that their story will become a myth, and Ha-baek leans over and kisses her, for a very long time.

And then we see So-ah falling into the river, sinking deep underwater.

 
COMMENTS

There was a lot of character growth in this episode, with nearly everyone showing how much they’ve learned and matured recently. Unfortunately, the one piece of information I was most looking forward to didn’t really help me—knowing the truth about why Bi-ryum hates Hu-ye so badly does nothing to make me less sympathetic towards Hu-ye. He’s still being held accountable for something he did as a child, without knowing any better or having been taught how to control his deadly powers. And yet, whenever he accidentally hurts someone, he doesn’t lash out or blame others for provoking him—he turns inward, blaming himself and punishing himself more than Bi-ryum ever could. He truly is a good person, as So-ah says.

But I don’t believe that Bi-ryum is a villain either; he’s just someone who lost a friend in a tragic accident and is dealing with a lot of leftover grief and guilt. I’m glad to know that he didn’t go after Hu-ye in the first place as I’d feared, and that what happened truly was an unexpected accident. I do feel bad for Bi-ryum that even after over a thousand years, his own self-blame is strong enough that he can’t get over the way Mo-myung died. While it’s no excuse for the way he’s treated Hu-ye, I can understand why he’s angry, and that seeing his friend’s killer walking around, free and successful, brings all that fury and hatred back to the surface. I honestly don’t think he means to unfairly persecute Hu-ye—in Bi-ryum’s mind, he’s punishing a murderer.

One positive angle on the whole situation is that the conflict between Hu-ye and Bi-ryum does serve a purpose, and that’s that it highlighted why Ha-baek will make a good king. He intervened in their fight without losing his temper or taking sides, then held Bi-ryum accountable for his heinous actions towards another living being, regardless of the fact that Hu-ye is a half-god with the power to kill gods. Not to say that Ha-baek was on Hu-ye’s side—far from it—but he was able to be neutral when neutrality was needed, which is a great quality for a future king.

And I loved how Hu-ye’s distress allowed So-ah to show how much she’s grown emotionally. She used to barely care about her patients, and now she’s willing to put herself in danger to help Hu-ye when he needs her, even in the face of Ha-baek’s disapproval. What she said about Hu-ye’s good works making him like a god to others was beautiful, and the way she said that his deeds would spread like a forest and live forever was exactly what Hu-ye needed to hear. He’s only ever been told that he brings death and destruction, and he needed someone to tell him that regardless of his past accidents, his sum total is that he’s a good man who makes a difference in people’s lives. The fact that it was So-ah who helped him see that just proves how much she’s changed.

But I’m worried about So-ah’s promise to be on Hu-ye’s side, and if it will conflict with Ha-baek’s belief that Hu-ye is an evil that shouldn’t exist. I’m afraid that she’ll have to take sides, and neither decision can have positive consequences. If she takes Hu-ye’s side, Ha-baek will see it as another betrayal and may decide that as the gods’ servant, So-ah deserves to be punished. But if she sides with Ha-baek, it could be the final push that sends Hu-ye to fully embrace his dark side.

The last mystery we have to solve is that of So-ah’s father, and where he’s been all these years. I believe that it was So-ah’s father who rescued Hu-ye, based on how familiar So-ah’s words sounded to him and how he seemed to remember them being said by a man. Plus, if I remember correctly, So-ah’s father disappeared ten years ago, which is when Hu-ye came to the human realm. I have a feeling that when So-ah finds her father, a lot of loose ends are going to come together, though I still can’t predict exactly how things will end. Will Ha-baek and So-ah be able to stay together? Will Ha-baek go back to the Realm of the Gods and become king, or will he choose to stay in the human world for So-ah? Despite all of this show’s flaws, I do still find the central love story beautiful and tragic, and I’m looking forward to seeing how Ha-baek and So-ah choose to live their futures.

 
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FINALLY! The episode I’ve been waiting for! Good pace, good reveals, good conflict, good monologues and interesting to boot!

I’m so much happier now that both Habaek & Hu-Ye’s back stories are finally converging in a meaningful way that affects their relationships in the present.

The ladies got the amazing monologues this episode - YAY!
When did Mura become so wise and awesome?! Her analysis of Bi Ryeom’s complex swirling nexus of unresolved torment, self-hatred and unforgiveness was spot on. I liked how she advised him to let it go. #boom

So-Ah’s speech not only assuaged the crushing weight of anguish Hu-Ye has been living under, but she broke through the despair brought on by the broken image he held of himself = a demigod trapped not only in a cyclical life pattern, but a cyclical behavior pattern that (he presumes) never could become better regardless of effort.

So-Ah so perfectly encapsulated all he is in her speech: describing his acts as divine to those he saved, all the while supporting (even directing) him to live as a human. While true he is neither fully god or fully human, yet she explains somehow he is able to be both in his choices and actions, which sweetly reflects and affirms his true nature.

The So-Ah + Hu-Ye ship will never sail. And frankly, a warm friendship would suffice. But, the greenhouse scene argues well for why Hu-Ye would switch from being content to be her friend to wanting to become her lover: he’s finally seen for who he truly is and acknowledged to have worth.

Healing and Love as Conflict
While I still don’t find Habaek & So-Ah love story compelling on its own, I am VERY SOLD on how Habaek’s love for So-Ah has healed her. This allows her to become who she is meant to be (so similar to her own father): someone really loving, kind-hearted, and giving/generous to a fault! This becomes apparent with how she helps Hu-Ye. Interestingly, Habaek’s love and So-Ah’s healing simultaneously sets up the ultimate conflict between Habaek and Hu-Ye.

Divine Showdown
Habaek’s jealous outbursts are interesting because they are tied to a real problem: the prejudice against Hu-Ye. Why? Because So-Ah will never share his same prejudice. Firstly, she knows Hu-Ye through his generosity towards her. Secondly, it is unlikely (now that she is healing) for So-Ah to abandon anyone in need. She’s already sworn allegiance to him if he chooses to be a human. This provides a real challenge for Habaek: as king of the divine realm, can he rule justly without prejudice?

Habaek’s prejudice (and fear) brings him into direct conflict not only with Hu-Ye but also So-Ah, and while he would be willing to jettison Hu-Ye, his love for So-Ah forces him to confront this issue. THIS is good conflict.

Can’t wait for next week!

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I have yet to watch ep 14, but LollyPip always provides such clarity with her recaps. Thanks for all your efforts.
Pineapplegongzhu, I love reading your analysis of each episode, you break things down to the aspects I also find most intriguing.
This was the first time I could actually visualize So-Ah as a therapist. I watched that scene with her and Hu-Ye raw, but just from the tone of her voice and her calmness you can see why she was effective.

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Awesome comment echoing like-minded thoughts! The empowering Soah/Huye scene was what I have been rooting for the whole time in this drama. You have done SSK & IJH such a good service! Thank you!

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Am a little late to the party, but yes! -- lovely analysis, @pineapplegongzhu!

This is by far my favorite episode in the series to date. And you've enumerated really well the points that make this episode great. (Finally! Yay!)

Am especially happy about So Ah and Hu Ye's respective growths and healing. Am happy for each of them. ?

And wow, So Ah's speech!!! I wanted to give her an emotional slow clap for all the good things she said to Hu Ye. Plus I, (and I think I can safely say, I, together with many other beanies here ?) was living vicariously through So Ah when she gave him that back hug. The poor man soooo needed a hug from a friend, from someone, anyone, who cares about him, and I'm glad for him that he received that embrace. (And yay for So Ah, too, for breaking down her own walls herself and opening herself to truly helping another person)

Good episode overall!!

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I was honestly getting tired of the amount of wrist grabbing and So Ah getting dragged away in this episode.
But on a positive note, IJH acting was always on point but he really outdid himself in this episode. His just so good at taking you with him as his character go through these deep dark emotions. I always feel like I'm going for a ride when I watch him. Glad he's in this.
And SSK just delivered the best scene throughout this whole drama when she's trying to get through HuYe. She managed to get in that moment with her character and delivered those lines with so much sincerity in her voice. I commend her for that.

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I never knew Nam Joo Hyuk could kiss like that.. Reminded me of Lee Jong Suk ??

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Lol those were my thoughts as well

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He got a lot of practice with Lee Sungkyung lol

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Correction* delivered her best acting scene in this episode*
On the other hand, I was extremely annoyed with Habaek here. He was over the top jealous, arrogant and immature and NJH's acting lacked that much needed nuance to emphatize with his character

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The wrist grabbing and dragging around was a bit much in this episode. At one point when they were in So-ah's office and Ha-baek wrist grabbed her out, I thought to myself, is she really allowing this right now?!

Regarding NJH's acting. As much as I hate to admit it, he is lacking in some areas to be able to fully capture Ha-baek. Ha-baek is a really complex character in my opinion, and I do think NJH is capable of nuance, just not that wide a range. That is to say that there are some moment where I think he's doing a brilliant job, and others where is kinda glaring that he either has some improvement to do still, or certain things just aren't in his wheelhouse.

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Perhaps my statement didn't give NJH the credit he's due. He's done well in some areas, especially in the first episodes. He's got great comedic timing and does the fish out of the water scenes really well but I now understand why I am more invested with HuYe's story. It's a combination of good writing and layered acting by IJH that makes you feel with him whenever he does an emotional scene.

Habaek's character has a lot of potential that NJH's experience can't do justice just yet. While Huye's struggle between good and evil presents high stakes that can pottentially have grave consequences depending on the outcome, I see just as much potential in Habaek's story that realy needs to be explored here. I want to see him struggle and question the notion of predetermined fate. What would it mean to follow his heart? Can he risk it all to gain something else? What are the consequences of doing so? So far all he's done he's done is toy with SoAh's feelings with "i will love you then leave you but let's live in the moment" preposition and he doesn't make life easier for SoAh either, quite the oposite actually. The latter part can be blamed on poor writing but I find that good acting can always save that. I hope to see NJH get better with experience though as he is young and has potential.

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I wouldn't out it as Habaek is "toying" with So Ah's feelings. From the get-go, both of them know they can't be together. Both of them acknowledges that fact. From the first kiss under the tree, HB kept saying he's leaving all the while kissing SA. SA even admitted that to her psychic friend - "He's here now bec he misses me but he'll leave soon." Despite all the odds being against them, they choose to be together (YOLO it may be) but I think that's the beauty (and anguish) of this star-crossed fantasy love stories.

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I actually wish I could upvote this comment more than once D':

I think you're absolutely right that there is much more development that could be given Ha-baek's character, and in a way, it would have served to make him more compelling, at least for me. Predetermination is a pretty interesting--and heavy--concept to play with, and how characters react to that, when done well, can be absurdly fascinating.

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Completely agreeing with you, too! Well said!!

And re Ha Baek's (missed) potential, I agree that it is partly to be blamed on writing. I think his character was given less than the express and overt material given to Hu Ye. By this I mean, Hu Ye's drama was apparent and clear and ongoing from the get-go, whereas Ha Baek's issues were written In such a way that it was up to the viewer to catch these issues in between many scenes and piece them all together. Most recent example, we are expressly told of the possible threat to Ha Baek's existence only during the preview for episode 15.

Of course all this doesn't take way anything from the excellent talent of IJH, who continues to make Hu Ye so three dimensional. I also agree that NJH has his brilliant moments, and is doing good overall. But I also agree with you that some flaws in the writing of Ha Baek's character may have been better saved by more nuanced acting.

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I actually got pissed with Habaek when he dragges So Ah away after her heartfelt speech with Huye. Gaaah, I criiiied.

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I know I cried tooooo ;_;
I was really angry; I wanted to hear what hu ye had to say too

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Know what I'd love to hear what Huye says, too.. But IJH's incredible acting got me sold even with no spoken words. The guy is seriously under-appreciated.

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Yes! Justice for IJH. After Tamra i don't know why he was relegated to supporting roles when he's got the chops to carry a drama on his own :(

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If I ever rewatch, I'll take a shot* everytime So-ah gets dragged away and a wrist grab happens!

*Of tomato juice, because alcohol poisoning is a terrible way to go.

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Keonbae! ? Pineapple juice for me

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I'll joint in that drinking game (I'll use cranberry juice)....

But, let's drink whenever IJH is stealing the scene and the show..... ;)

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That's a brighter idea! But aren't drinks usually reserved for exasperating moments? But anything for Im Joohwan. ? That guy can slaaaay any role

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Hahaha, a much better idea indeed! :D I'd drink to that!

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I agree with you folks. While So Ah's treatment toward Hoo Ye was commendable, I wished she would have been there for him even a little bit more. Habaek lost his shimmer for me with his "I cannot tolerate friendships of the opposite sex!"

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For Habaek its a bit more than not tolerating So Ah's guy-friends. He's civil with Nurse Yoo. His jealousy is not totally not uncalled-for. HB knows HY wants So Ah - He even said he'll take her when HB's gone. Also, HB knows what HY is capable of. Though even Mura was there to point out that no matter what HY is capable of, he will not hurt SA. Still I wouls have really liked for So Ah to stay and comfort Huye, Habaek's godly stinkface-jealousy be damned.

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Finally, another acknowledgement confirming SSK is a very polished actress contrary to all the negative remarks about her. Thank you.

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While this episode finally confirms most of the theories we've been speculating, I'm too invested on that SS Huye + Happiness ship and thankful for Soah as the co-captain of that ship--finally lessening the burden of Captain Geol-rin.

I knew there is a reason why I liked Mura despite all her flaws. And Soah too. For putting her hard-earned degree to use, helping the most damaged demi-god ever to exist in that world.

Side note, for the love of all gods and beautiful costumes, everyone from the Realm of Gods needs to get your shit together. We only have two episodes left.

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For putting her hard-earned degree to use, helping the most damaged demi-god ever to exist in that world. +100000 Finally we find the reason why the writer made her a psychiatrist... Thouugh with all the character growth that So ah has shown, she is the perfect person to alleviate Huye's anguish

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For awhile, I wondered why SoAh's character was a psychiatrist when it was obvious that she was quite bad at it. It maybe that the uncaring facade she put up so well prevented her from genuinely connecting with her patients and others but we slowly see her growth and that scene with HuYe was incredibly done. Sometimes there are no words that could ever take away someone's pain and despair but this scene was a beautiful exception.

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Last two mysteries left:
1. Was the king HuYe's dad?
2. How will we get a happy ending?

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I hope they answer what happened to So Ah's father. Is he the one who found Hu Ye?

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I would think so. And I think he's one of the victims of Huye's inability to control his powers when he first arrived in the human world. ? Ironic how in other dramas, the you-killed-my-dad-i-should-hate-you troupe is usually reserved for the OTP... Goes to show how the writer is gaga over her Huye creation. Wouldn't blame her. The guy's fascinating to the last bit of nuanced acting

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1. the king of sky land, i suppose. he plotted betrayal against habaek once. he's supposed to be a terrible father haha.
2. So-ah would end her life one year after habaek's leave. Her fated would get twisted somehow and she could live with habaek haha

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BR and HY are half-bros. Perhaps also another reason why BR didn't go after HY for 1200 yrs.

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Huye and Biryeom are half brothers. Another reason why BR didn't go after him in 1200 yrs. First reason is BR blames himself first. And he's grieving.

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We still don't know why the fish and everything are dying! Or why Ha-baek lost his powers! Or what's going on with So-ah and the river in the first shot! And probably a bunch other questions I'm forgetting!

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I think it's too late for logic. Let's just enjoy the non-sensical ride..........and Im Joo Hwan ;)

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As a biologist major I am ashamed to admit I've totally forgotten that bit! But obviously so did the writers.. ? I won't be surprise if it comes up next week as the final urge for Habaek to be back to the Water Realm.. The ecological balance will be ruined (Acc to the preview he will die too if doesn't come back but knowing HB he prolly cares about the fishes more than his life.. Or he should if he is king-to-be)

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I keep having this weird theory that So-ah jumped into the river as a sort of sacrifice (echoing Nak-bin; I think the back-story mentioned there was some kind of ecological disaster back then too? Gotta check that episode again...)

My less weird random idea is that it reminds me for no reason of the Venetian ceremony by which the doge wedded the sea (even though no ring is being dropped here.) Maybe that's how she marries Ha-baek, lol!

Person who rescues So-ah: "I rescued her, but I accidentally disrupted her wedding and now the Head Honcho of the Gods, Ha-baek is super-mad at me and he has his 1337 powers back, you got a bunker for me to hide in?"

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Hmm based from what I remember on ep 1 when this scene was first shown and this recent ep.. I would think So Ah jumped bec she wanted to be with Habaek.. Like to call him somehow. I think someone mentioned this before. I like your idea of So Ah being underwater to marry Habaek! (Who needs rings?!) Then being disrupted
somehow bec people thought she was suicidal (forget the sacrificial other theory) ?

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@kayedrama Definitely plausible - in the opening scene, she carried a white rose, though I'm not sure I caught it here. IIRC, those are the ones used at weddings, right?

(I'm not super sure on this, lol, my Asian background screams that white is for funerals which would put a whole different layer of meaning on that act of jumping in...)

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I understood it as the fish are dying because of climate change and pollution. They're dying because of the actions of humans, and the gods have been merciful by putting bandaids on the problem. That's why Biryeom also said that the air is not fine.

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This episode just put me in kiss-heaven. I don't think I've ever seen so many kisses in one Korean drama episode before. Props to IJH for giving such a compelling performance as HY. His tortured shudders and cries in the greenhouse on the farm felt so realistic and raw.

I feel like this episode finally, FINALLY gave me some answers, and ouch - now I don't even know who to feel bad for any more.
- I can't blame BR for hating HY because he killed one of his best buddies even if it was unintentional (it would be heartless to tell BR to forgive and forget, because he watched his friend die right in front of him).
- I can't blame HY for killing the people because he was just a frightened child who couldn't control himself.
- I can't blame HB for being the one to send them to that cave because... how could he have known? And HB was so stricken and guilty to know that in a way, it had been his fault. His love for Nakbin had caused MR to be upset, and cost BR his friend.

What a huge mess of emotions, ugh. For HY, I just think what a waste of a precious life just because of the gods' deep-rooted disgust for halflings. If only someone had been there to nurture him and teach him how to control and use his powers, none of that would have happened. He could have gone on to live in the human world, be a good person, and help humans. Perhaps the one person to shoulder the blame should have been the Sky King. (Assumably, he fathered HY, freaked out that he created an abomination, and then decided to abuse him. Way to go.)

I know HB was angry because he was jealous that SA seemed very close to HY, but I wonder if it was because he was angry with himself, and angry at the truth of the matter, and he didn't know where else to direct the anger (just like Yeonmi said). I'm not really a fan of those wrist-grabs-and-drags though.

Anybody thinks that HY was the one who'd saved SA from drowning? I don't recognize those sneakers in YM's dream, and the way HY asked if they'd met before makes me wonder if he'd been the one to save her.

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Interesting take on Habaek's behaviour as a way of deflecting the anger he feels towards himself. It's not an excuse to lash out on SoAh but that's the best reason why he's acting like a complete [email protected]& this episode. I pretend slapped him a few times while watching.

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Ikr! The kiss was inapt imo (though its hot). It almost feels like Habaek marking his territory, so to speak. I was so upset when right after that very heart tugging scene with Huye, Habaek wrist grabs poor So ah away. ?

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I'd agree with you, @kayedrama that the kiss, while extremely passionate, was possessive. Habaek was marking his territory.

And while it WAS passionate, I'd have to say that the So-Ah and Hu-Ye conversation in the greenhouse held much more depth.

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Agree. Huye might not have So Ah's heart, but they connect in levels beyond the physical - which is good in my book. ?

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I think the writers put all those scenes in to tilt the balance again in favor of the OTP.

So Ah and Hu Ye just had a significant moment. So of course, after that moment, there should be the given lovey (ahem, hot!) and supposed fluttery/jealousy scenes between the real OTP. ?‍♀️

Personally I don't agree with all those jealousy and wrist-grabbing scenes, but maybe the writers took into consideration that viewers' mileages vary?

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I like the MR-BR kiss.
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Think of this as the greatest consolation I can give you *brushes her lips on Biryeom's* Are you okay now?
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That is how you kiss, man.

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He sure was angry with himself after finding out all that and took it on her without wanting and even more when she took Hu Ye side saying "They" said about him those things,i think that triggered more his guilt of what happened and the betrayer he suffered back then,in that second he must have felt she choose Hu Ye and his deep insecurity coming from that incident that left a very big wound in him came out(also being now half human)...Strangely i doubt he hated Hu Ye as much as he hated himself for the sad event(as i think it coud he avoided if those guards sent by the King didn't interfere)

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I don't think I've ever seen so many kisses in one Korean drama episode before. @lezah you should see Fight my Way. One beanie even said the title should be changed to Kiss my Way. ?

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Oh oh, I've actually watched FMW! I watched it actively as it was airing. I don't know why I didn't think of that as having too many kisses! Maybe it was just the hotness of the kisses here or that I'm getting old and my memory is a sieve recently.

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Hu Ye killed her father but saved her from drowning. Those wet shoes are his, soaking wet from the river when he jumped in to save her. Why would Habaek be wearing wet shoes when he saved her? He was the Water God, he wasn't human. So it has to be Hu Ye.

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I like your theory. I'm a bit frustrated that our plot is finally moving and the intertwined relationships between the characters so interesting.......and we have two episodes left.

I wish the writer had made Hu-Ye a better rival against Habaek sooner. It would have been nice for Habaek to have to really WORK for something.

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I think so too, Huye saves So Ah bec (1) Habaek doesn't get wet he prolly will summon his bubble carriage if he'll save her (2) why else would the drama build some sort of tension in revealing the savior's face? (3) Another proof to So Ah that Huye is not bad-bad, the poor puppy's misunderstood and misguided! And she will side with him of course. She already promised that (what a beautiful promise it was!) and also just to raise conflict when King-Habaek will need need to punish the wrongs that abused-child-lost-soul Huye did.

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I think her father saves her. It's only right, she so desperately wanted him to save her ten years ago. I don't imagine they'd conclude the series (I hope) without doing something to address her father and his role in shaping who she was and who she is becoming.

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I'm led to believe So Ah's father is dead, one of the victims of Huye's uncontrolled power. He killed her dad but saves her life.

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TBOWG can be a deathly potion after MLSHR. I learn much on the latter so I am preparing myself for any probabilities things thrown to dungeon. 
Ride, down and rise with this ship. Show, bring it on!

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I do think that HY father is the Sky King. And if ever it is cameo of younger Sky King done by Kang Ha Neul (his name mean as strong sky), I will be much hate it. Because I just recover from hating his guts in MLSHR. Seriously, just don't do it show. I will flung my laptop and crush it to pieces then send it to the manufacturer.

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I just checked on asianwiki about it...and actually Kang Ha Neul is listed as guest starring (cameo) and they don't say the role....so... he might be ending up being who you just described @verybeautifullie

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Yeah it took some time to me too to recover to his latest actions in MLSHR. Oh well...

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I have a few questions:
Could HY be half brother of HB or BR??
Is SA father be dead? If so, is HY is involved? Or HB? Why I ask? 2 reason first HY asked if he had meet SA before and we hear in a man voice same word SA was saying when she was trying to comfort him. Then we have SA friend dreaming about SA talking to her and she is wet, and SA said "That person… that person is the one who saved me, but…", could what she wanted say related to her father?, her friend say SA was talking about her boyfriend in her dream.
What could be "but"?

Also we see same scene from episode one SA in the water wearing the red outfit, like she will meet someone, who?

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The term 'half-brother' needs to be qualified as gods are not procreated; thus it is not really possible for them to be half-siblings. That being said, I would deem it slightly more likely for Hu-ye and Bi-ryum to be 'half-siblings' rather than Hu-ye and Ha-baek, if only because Hu-ye was being held in a cave in the Sky Nation and we know his father (the Sky King, I believe?) had him taken from his mother and incarcerated there. Ha-baek is from the Water Nation, while Bi-ryum is Sky Nation. You do the maths.

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Finally, one part came to light and I am (kind of) thankful for this episode that it all started to make sense. But they should've done this sooner.

This episode is so packed with infos and emotions. And I think the finale episodes will have to be even more loaded than this if the writers want to answer all the questions still left unanswered. Such as Habaek-Soah love line, Habaek being king or not, Soah's family issues, Huye's personal conflict, and God's realm situation (didn't they were in a rush for the coronation, shouldn't the Gods be worried or shouldn't there be some kind of unstable situation because Habaek is not yet the king?). I was hoping that we can discuss those starting these eps, at least start talking about it and give hints or anything, but I guess I have to wait until next week :(

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Ok this episode made me kinda cringe for the storyline which is pretty childish. Is this all the central conflict all about and in a flash we have last 2 episodes left?!
But I'm shallow, I find Habaek hot and boy can he kiss. The director have good shots and timing and the sunset was gorgeous, the stairway scene also thumbs up.
If only the story was better but at this point , I do like the OTP a lot more than I should so I'm finishing this. It's a breezy watch, and one should appreciate good kisses in kdrama land of dead fish kisses haha

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gladly this drama has managed to prove a charismatic sexy man in Nam Joohyuk, and his potential to grow through his so-far acting carreer. Unlike many Beanies, this is the 1st time i've watched him act as a lead (not to mention his forgettable supporting role in Scarlet heart). At the beginning, I had a lowest expectation, so I was amazed to see that he could do more than I assume :)))). Now i'm definitely interested, not really a fan, but i'm looking forward to watching him in the future. :)))

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Oh, @lizzyindizzyworld if I may I'd like to recommend Weightlifting Fairy. I wouldn't wanna try at first too (college sports drama*roll eyes) but man, was it good. It's one of those things you watch and leaves you with feel-good after taste that the world will be better somehow (lol). NJH was so good it that role - the writing helped and his easy camaraderie with his lead LSK.

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My friend urged me to start watching but I felt it wasn't up my alley (I was on mysteries and sageuks then) but this is convincing me to give it a shot, lol.

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Oh please do try watching it, @kaoren! I also thought college sports drama wasn't my thing either. But I was so pleasantly surprised. WFKBJ is such a light, feel-good, and well-written drama. It ranks among my top favorites. ? (And there you can see there that NJH is better-suited (a natural) in playing the charming/teasing boy variety.

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Will do then! I don't have any dramas in my queue after this one, so I'll pick up WFKBJ after this ends next week!

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Oh Hu Ye,such a sad fate he has....His scene with Soo Ah in the garden house was by far my most favorite,such a great and emotional moment,i guess we know long ago her Dad also helped and comforted him,among the very few people who didn't see him as the monster others labeled him...I also think the one who saves Soo Ah and maybe dies is her dad,also thank the Gods for Habaek to actually say that Hu Ye tried to defend Nak Bin back then...It's kinda cute on other note how great Soo Ah handles Habaek and in a second takes away his anger/jealousy,his reactions are so cute when he doesn't know how to act in those moments...Moora is one of my favorite character...I actually found the moment between Moora and Bi-ryum when she comforted him and the kiss so hot and intimate,loved that moment for some reason...Still curious who Hu Ye Dad is,i think they are ambiguous on porpuse not mentioning if it's the Sky King or the King of all of them...I think for something might be the Ultimate King as everyone mentiones just that...

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Am I the only one who thinks that Habaek himself is Hu Ye's father? That Nak Bin was pregnant when taken into the custody of the Sky King, and Habaek had no idea?

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man.. am I the only one kinda bummed that every time so ah and hu ye have a heart to heart talk, habaek just, just has to appear.. ;_;
also I felt that so ah sorta gave hu ye false hope by saying she would be his deity, because afterwards hu ye said he made a decision or something like that.

(also really loved the part where habaek asked bi ryeom to stop)

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The only problem is Bi Ryeom's immaturity.The show is amazing.that's all.

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Since which episode this drama's story revolved around HY? Not that I'm complaining, I'm just wondering when I watched it. More screen time for the wonderful IJH.

Since when the not God neither human HY became more enigmatic and charismatic then the God himself? Kinder, maturer, calmer, smarter and more endearing.

Since when did I lose interest in HB's story and only swooning whenever he was sending moony eyes at SA, but watched intently, scene per scene, for HY whenever he was with or without SA?

...Was the writer changed the story to heavily lean over HY to unfold HB's journey to find the way to be the rightful King? The adaption differed from the original manhwa, I know. But to shift away from HB centrist to HY on the second half of the drama, was it originally planned or....? #SLS

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I think writer fell for Im joo hwan's charm too, so he/she extended Hu-ye's character because he/she couldn't help it! :D

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LOL. Good Lord, save us all from this pensive solemn man...

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@gaeinalee: episode 8. It was episode 8, with the beginning of Hu-Ye's backstory when I started to lose interest in the OTP, and just fixated on Hu-Ye. <3

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Yup. The second half is correct then. My memory still not fuzzy... ^^

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As a viewer, I'm growing increasingly tired of Habaek dragging So-ah away each time she has a conversation with Hu-ye. I don't know why she let's him do so. Many times her conversations with CEO Shin are based on her role as a tenant or a doctor, and I don't know if it's supposed to come across as romantic - Habaek being a jealous male and all - but mostly it comes across as immature and that Habaek doesn't respect Soah's space or ability to decide who she wants to relate with. CEO Shin is being remarkably patient and good natured with these childish gods - and by childish, I include Moora and Bi Ryeom.

I'm glad we found out what made Bi Ryeom so hurt and prickly over the years, but I would say it is remarkably stupid of him to provoke a being that has the power to destroy or kill him.

I'm also a little frustrated with Habaek's character, apart from looking blank and haughty most of the time, and his romantic scenes with Soah, Habaek seems to be quite a useless character in this drama. He really doesn't seem to do much for anyone and is so reliant and dependent on everyone around him, smh.

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I started watching this drama when I saw the clip of Habaek saving So Ah from falling to her death. I kept waiting for those kind of scenes but with 2 episodes left, I am just watching for Hu Ye story arc.

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Putting aside my immense sympathy for Hu Ye, dang the kisses in this drama are good. Both couples showing others how it's done. The lighting and angles during those scenes are great too.

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The only thing I want to know now, is who's Hu-ye's father! I actually don't care about love lines anymore! :D

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I loved the scene with So-ah and Hu-ye. Her words seemed to have cathartic effect on him, break him out of his misery, even if just a little bit. It was so well acted as well. Seriously, Im Joo-hwan is killing this role.

I'm almost sure the one who saved Hu-ye is So-ah's father. And it's not because the clues the drama gave us, it's the photo and then the voice. This actor has a very distinctive voice, he's been in so many dramas I've watched that I can recognize it (a clear sign that you're addicted btw...).

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I felt that this episode delivered a lot, although I still think some of the earlier longwindedness in prior episodes could've been cut without significantly harming the impact of the relevations here.

-Finally, Bi-ryum makes so much more sense (yes, knowing what exactly made Bi-ryum so angry in the previous episode helped, but this episode did the heavy lifting in making Bi-ryum's emotions understandable/relatable, even though Hu-ye also remains a sympathetic character.

-Ditto on Mu-ra's growth and So-ah's--this is the first time in the entire series where I've been able to bring myself to see So-ah acting as a psychotherapist.

-Hu-ye is as awesome as usual, but I like seeing him finally get past some of his issues. Yes, he does have baggage. But working past them is, after all, part and parcel of character growth, and it looks right now like he's hit rock bottom and can now rise again like the proverbial phoenix from the ashes. (Incidentally, finally we know what's up with Min!)

-Jin-geon did not die, thank goodness; speaking is not a death-sentence :D

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I knew the reason for BR anger wouldn't be enough, it just came too late. Also loved the consultation scene between SA and HY.
I'm irritated with both HY and HB this ep, HY for continuing to be an obstinate fool regarding his "waiting" line, I thought he was smart but I only have the writer to blame to continue to push this flop love triangle this late in the game. As for HB, I have no tolerance for jealous men or interest to placate their egos, and I didnt like how the writer made him a jealous buffoon or how SA even dealt with it. But thinking about the gods and their elements-BR is carefree and reckless like air, HY nurturing and destructive, and how HB can be wildly turbulent and emotionally intense and irrational and at others calm, receptive. Water can be a very temperamental sign.
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Wow. This episode really bugged me. I did not enjoy Haebak's jealousy. He constantly butted in and just grabbed So-ah and took her away. Um, buddy, not up to you to dictate who she speaks and is friends with. He did it twice! On top of that, she never once dug her feet in and said "hey, this is important, you can wait" So frustrating. This was especially true when her and Hu-ye were having a super heartfelt and emotionally important conversation at the farm. It was also created a jarring transition. I understand jealous tendencies, but there is line between what is appropriate and what is not. I am sorry, but I kinda have to agree with her friend - dump him.

Why is no one asking who is Hu-ye's dad? I know I am curious. Is it the sky king? Is he Bi-ryum's half brother? If so that would be kind of important information.

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The show seems to like to borrow from Goblin and as I'm watching this episode I wondered if they're going to end in the same "they're together but not together" route.

Because they seem to be suggesting that if HB chooses to not be king he will cease to exist. Given there is only two episodes left how are they going to solve that dilemma?

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I stilll think So-ah is going to "sacrifice" herself to the water gods and beg to be able to live in the god realm which can be plausible since Habaek will be on top of god totem pole by then. Or Habaek will find his stamp or whatever it's called that allows him to grant her one wish

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Finally some answers.
And now it feels as if the blame has shifted on someone else.
I think Habaek is the one to be blamed in a way and also Hu-ye's father who locked up Hu-ye in the cave.

Love just happens, it doesn't see time and place. So, Habaek is at fault for falling in love with Nak-bin and I resented him until he kissed So-ah senseless. That had me smiling like a freak. His jealousy is cute but I don't know why he still resent Hu-ye so much.

I feel so sad and sorry for Bi-ryum, he looked so sad and forlorn.And he really liked Mo-myeong. And now I don't think he was in the wrong for hating Hu-ye so much even if Hu-ye did that unintentionally. You can't forgive someone who killed your loved one even if it was a mistake.

I felt so sad to see Hu-ye break like that, he didn't decide to be born in such a way. Geol-rin now has some respect in my eyes.

So-ah is a good friend.

And finally Mu-ra kisses Bi-ryum. I was so happy.

And now the dream sequence and that last part of So-ah jumping, what is it? There are only 2 episodes left.

I really don't like Nak-bin and So-ah's dad. Why hasn't her dad still be shown? And he goes about helping other orphans, which I appreciate but my respect for him goes down the drain that he orphaned his own daughter.

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And I feel Mo-ra's anger and resent towards Habaek and So-ah's relationship is justified as she is trying to stop history from repeating. And that slap for Habaek was a well deserved one.

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Agree. Maybe at first it's mixed with jealousy but as the show progresses, you can see how she is just protecting both of the male gods from commiting mistakes or sins that are against the laws of the realm of the gods. Mura is like the neutralizer in this story. I like her charcter so much.

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Still a few mysteries left
Who is Hu-ye's father?
How did Hu-ye gt the earth mark?
Will So-ah's father be shown?

And all the actors are doing a great job, may it be as a hero, villain, sidekick, lover, god etc. Or else atleast I could be feeling the deep emotions of love, hate, resent pity, joy for the characters they are portraying. No hate to the actors.

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?????
After reading a couple of comments I think im the only one in love with NJH's acting. The man isn't doing a terrible job as most feared. Can we cut him some slack? I mean if I wake up tomorrow and Soompi tell me he's the son of Apollo / Poseidon I'll believe it lol
Once again kudos to the writer???

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me too, maybe i will only read LollyPip's recap, so everyone here is in love so deep with IJH.

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Awwww….I hope we’re not spoiling your fun, @korealike234! You have absolutely every right to love NJH. I really like NJH, too! In fact, I started watching this show because he and SSK were in it.

I think NJH is a fine actor, and I’m pleased to see that he’s branching out into roles that require him to play a “man” rather than a pretty, lovesick puppy “boy.”

NJH, like all actors (IJH included), has his strengths and weaknesses as an actor. He has great comedic timing, and arguably comedy is a lot harder to act than despairing sorrow or anger.

I don't think the observations people have made regarding his acting are meant as criticism that he is terrible, only that he has room to grow. If anything, that makes me respect him more because he's willing to GROW as an actor by taking *challenging* and interesting roles.

I think where a lot of us are coming from is that Hu-Ye, as a character, is a lot more engaging and compelling than Habaek, not because of acting skill, but because the writer seems to be writing a lot of depth to Hu-Ye. It's his storyline that is driving the plot for the past 3-4 episodes.

While I'm sure the squeal-worthy, passionate and romantic moments are sure to endear Habaek to many, many fans, there is an isolated element to each of them. They are cute stand-alone moments, but they don't seem to drive the plot or story forward. It doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose outside of fan service. I think for most girls just having a handsome guy do all of these romantic gestures are enough, but for me I'd like deeper meaning, significance and purpose to the romance.

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That is so true. HB has grown as a God, but it's all very subtle, like the scene in the last few episodes where he apologized to NamSuri but then had to just go back to "is this what you thought I'd say" when NSR started groveling.

There is not one big internal struggle like Hu-Ye that makes it interesting to watch and also empathize with. Well there is, the "should I go back or not". But it's coming very late in the game.

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I come for this drama because of the original manhwa then the actors: IJH, NJH and SSK. NJH's acting is way better than the one I watched in disastrous *cough* Moon Lovers *cough*. But truthfully, in my pov, NJH shown better acting in Glamorous Temptation. I didn't watch Weightlifting yet, hence I can't refer to it.

As I wrote above, I'm questioning the writer because of the story shift that make it seen as HY story instead of HB. I'm still swooning over HB moony eyes though.. ^^

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@korealike234, you are not alone.
Honestly all of the NJH bashing and the "oh my god is IJH is just the greatest" has made this recap comment section kinda suck for me. (Don't get me wrong, I really like IJH, he has range. But NJH isn't doing a bad job.) That, along with the Haebak bashing and HuYe praise in every single recap.

Honestly I always have a problem with some of the double standards on Dramabeans. Everyone is always in an uproar about the wrist grabbing but no one ever mentions how the women slap and kick men other than for self defense. Mu Ra slapped Haebak because she felt it was his fault, why? You are taught as a toddler to keep your hands to yourself. That goes for both men and women.

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So.. If you live in BotWG universe and see a God (usually perfectly beautiful human?bean) run away and don't look back. For Nak-bin and So-ah is already to late, but you still can be saved.

After all this angst and tension it's revealed that BR’s revenge arc basically based on a little kid, trying to save a girl whom he thought is being hurt?
BR has the high status of a god and HY labeled as monstrosity incarnate. Yet, BR lashes out because he is able to, and HY rather than intentionally creating hurt turns inwards and takes it out on himself.
Gods needs to get their st together.
Bt It was really beautiful what SA said to HY.
...I told you already that the trees that you’ve planted will grow up to be a mighty forest. They won’t disappear. The days that you’ve lived thus far. If CEO Shin will become a person, then I will be on your side. Whatever happens, no matter what, I will be on your side. I will become your god...

Haebak's jealousy and wrist grabbing / So-ah dragging was no-no for me, but they look cute together and the cinematography on that sunset was beautiful, breathtaking really.

BotWG is a beautiful disorder.
Thank you @LollyPip for the recap.

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..BotWG is a beautiful disorder..

You have to read the manhwa. It's beautifully written and all in order... ^^

The saving grace of this drama is IJH. He shines and shows us how he can captivated his audience even as 2nd or 3rd lead. OMG is one of his masterpiece.

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1. Will So Ah actually ever become a bride?!
2. Poor Hoo Ye. Claps for Im Joo Hwan. So Ah's words were perfect.
3. Until this episode I have loved and supported Hoo Ye, but was also behind So Ah and Habaek's romance. After this episode, despite So Ah's feelings, I am over Habaek. Yes, the kiss was cool, but he just ruined himself for me when he said he can't tolerate her having friendships with men. NAH-UH! I know she likes that he gets jealous (and it's a desirable thing in Kdramaland) but that's a dealbreaker for me. Ick.

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1. Well, we still have TWO episodes..............I'm going over the past recaps, and I have to admit there was SO MUCH extra filler that we just didn't need.

2. Agreed

3. HAHAHA....jump ship to the ship-that-will-never-sail: Hoo-ye+So-Ah

#TeamHoo-Ye

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It's actually pretty funny because several episodes ago, we were worried that: A) Hu-ye was gonna go evil, B) Hu-ye + Happiness was doomed, let alone Hu-ye + So-ah and yet now, I actually think they* do have a chance*... oh, and C) Hu-ye would become some violently-possessive dude fighting for So-ah.

they* = all ships, and Hu-ye not going dark
chance* = since I don't want to incite ship wars, I'm going to qualify this statement: I'm perfectly happy with them remaining friends (and in fact, I think that's excellent already) and any support I have for a Hu-ye + So-ah ship is in terms of their dynamic, i.e. how they would relate to each other and who they are as characters rather than anything to do with whether So-ah in the current drama is attracted to him. So it's a meta-claim, not a claim about the drama itself.

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OH AND A BIT FAT #4!

At one point I largely misunderstood and thought Hoo Ye was Habaek and Nakbin's son!!!!!!!! My mouth dropped!!!!!

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I thought Nakbin was still alive in the cave!! Then I remembered, oh, she died, or something...did she die? Because if she's still alive, oh, crap!

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I'm pretty sure Nakbin's dead. That's why Habaek has been brooding for 1200 yrs.. Not that we know him to be otherwise ?

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We still have two more episodes left for a "Luke, I AM YOUR FATHER" reveal! It's not too late! :O

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" Will So Ah actually ever become a bride?!" My thoughts exactly!!
The title as with all the descriptions of this drama refer to her being the bride, but it has not once been mentioned once in this drama!! I better see a bride at the end of this!

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I am confused.

The drama has suddenly made a shift toward the story of Hu Ye, making me forget that the drama is about Habaek and his story. IJH is so compelling an actor that he has suddenly become The Guy to Root For. Heck, I don't even care what happens to Habaek anymore. Take that scene at the beginning of the episode, where Habaek appears with Mu Ra and steps in to stop the fight. Habaek was reduced to a pale, insignificant shadow next to the bloodied, shaking, tortured Hu Ye.

I have no idea why the writer has suddenly decided to focus the rest of the story on Hu Ye. The dream of the man in the wet shoes, I think, is Hu Ye...and if I am correct, again, the focus on Hu Ye, the saviour. This thought came to me, watching the scene where she hugged him from behind, said all those things about him, being more human than a God: what if, what if Hu Ye ends up with So Ah?

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Join the club.....

Is the WRITER having #SLS?!

I think it was in episode 8 that suddenly there was a switch where Hu-Ye suddenly became the driving force of the drama.

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That's what I thought, it's so weird....it's like I'm watching Bride of Hu Ye, and Habaek has been pushed into the background. Everything is centred around Hu Ye now. I feel like the plot has fizzled out where Habaek is concerned,like they're not sure what to do with him, so they are concentrating on Hu Ye. But in doing that, they are making me shift my sympathies toward Hu Ye, and making me lose interest in Habaek.

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I don't know, aren't we technically watching 'Friendzone of Hu Ye'? :P

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Plot twist: So Ah will stay "Servant" and Huye will be "Bride"? Now I'm thinking perhaps bride also means something else in God Realm? Hmm I'm getting crazier tryna make sense of the sudden focus on Huye. Don't mind me

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Nice twist. Habaek marries Hu Ye instead *laughing my head off*. After all, we are never told who the bride is, it could be anyone!

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If we're taking bets on the identity of the bride, I'd like to bet on Geol-rin! That dude deserves some happiness too! :P

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@kayedrama, I'm floored laughing with your plot twist idea. *rotfl*

@yyishere, if that happens, will you write a poem or sonnet for HY, the bride? Please do....

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@gaeinalee HY the bride? LOLOL!!!! He would make a beautiful bride, can you imagine him in bridal white, with those rosebud lips and that stunning face?

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@kaoren Imagining Geol-rin as Habaek's bride and laughing my head off!!! He's so cute and adorable he'd make a sweet bald bride!

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Dudettes, Geol-Rin is TOTALLY a legit choice for a bride.

He DID kiss Habaek squarely on the lips.

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@yyishere, @kaoren, @kayedrama:

While I'm on the Hu-Ye & So-Ah ship, the major flaw I see in their relationship is that So-Ah rarely emotionally opens up to Hu-Ye. All of So-Ah's healing has come directly from Habaek.

I'm frustrated that Habaek always seems to interrupt Hu-Ye & So-Ah's interactions when they are just about to go deep or deeper....yet even without the interruption, I'm not certain Hu-Ye and So-Ah can be a couple.

Hu-Ye's too emotionally damaged to be an emotional strength to So-Ah at the moment. I think his scars and struggles are deep enough that he will need a lot of time before he can be a help to someone else, outside of financial help. This is a pity because I like this doomed ship that I'm on.....

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Also, indeed So Ah will be great companion to Huye (even after Habaek leaves hopefully longer than 5 minutes next epv, lol) but not necessarily romantic.

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Well, I wouldn't be surprised if the story ends with Habaek leaving, and So Ah staying back, with Hu Ye by her side, as a good friend. Because I don't see how else this is going to end...and frankly, I've lost interest in what happens to their love story. Every time there's a mandatory kissing scene or love scene, I think, oh, right, they're in love, it's a tragedy. But do I care? Not a tad.

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Maybe their production budget for Habaek's powers requiring CGI got cut so they had to make adjustments. Lucky for us, they turned to Hu Ye's story and a compelling one at that. Oh, but they compensated with a lot of hot kissing scenes, unfortunately its just fluff.

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I am wondering as well where her father is...could it be that HY killed him by mistake as well? He did say it took him a while to get a grip on his powers. A revelation like this could change the dynamic of his relationship with SA. I was also thinking that the little girl could be SA's ancestor but she cannot reincarnate, right?
Mura and BR are so cute together!!!!

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Huh. Usually I'm more definite about my preferences, but in this case, no. While Ha-Baek is kissing So-ah I'm all for it. But as a person(god) I almost prefer Hu-ye. He seems like a good fit for So-ah not because he's rich but because how much he values her. And they both have an incredible drive to help others.

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It’s been frustrating trying to explain WHY I enjoy Hu-Ye’s story arc without people misinterpreting it to mean I’m hating on NJH or our OTP - which, for the record, I am NOT. Far be it for me to actively seek out incurring the #fangirlrage of those who are OTP and NJH supporters, because that’s not my point. I started this drama for NJH and SSK. I’m more than willing to be swept up in the romance of the OTP…...but I find myself not.

I’d also like to avoid sounding like I have this irrational fangirl love for Hu-Ye or Im Joo Hwan because, frankly, I don’t. Although, I think it says something when a second lead is able to draw my attention away.

It’s not that I dislike all the cutesy, romantic moments (and passionate kisses!!) of the OTP, but I want their love to be MEANINGFUL, SUBSTANTIAL and DEEP above all these cutesy moments. Real love is not just jumping from one cute high to another, but it should affirm, encourage, build, deepen, grow, challenge, change….dare I say it, even redeem. Real love has real sacrifices and real consequences.

I think this is why Hu-Ye is such a compelling character, more so than Habaek for most of the series: he’s really the only one in *desperate* need for redemption. Lollypip said it herself in episode 9 recap: with Hu-Ye, you feel there are REAL STAKES involved.

I mean, let’s just take stock of what we know about Habaek’s struggle on his little mission to the human realm:

[1] He needs to get these three guardian god’s stones
[2] He came without his powers, lost the map with coordinates, has no concept of how the world works
[3] He has this tragic love story with ANOTHER human woman that seems to haunt his current love story
[4] His servant (So-Ah) refuses to obey him as he is used to being obeyed in the Divine Realm
[5] If he doesn’t get the stones, he can’t return to the Water Kingdom

These are all nuisances and inconveniences, but do any of the above really *threaten* him? What are the consequences of failure? Okay okay, so in the preview of episode 15, there does seem to be dire consequences for Habaek not returning to the Water Kingdom (#5). Yet, we aren’t TOLD THIS for the past 14 episodes! We are told, in fact, that losing his powers doesn’t make him any less of a deity; that he is fated - born, even - to be king.

By contrast, Hu-Ye is a very interesting character.

[1] He is hated, rejected, neglected, abandoned for most of his existence.
[2] Yet, through it all, he deeply desires to be finally acceptable, “good” if you will. He doesn’t fit in either realm easily, he is the outcast always looking in from the outside.
[3] His struggle is that of his soul.
[4] Not only that, but “half-breed” though he is, he has the unusual power to destroy the deities themselves!! Now, THAT’S is threatening - the very being the gods despise is the very being who cannot be controlled by them, and who has the...

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Whoops, ranted too much. The rest of the rant:

[4] Not only that, but “half-breed” though he is, he has the unusual power to destroy the deities themselves!! Now, THAT’S is threatening - the very being the gods despise is the very being who cannot be controlled by them, and who has the power of death over them.

[5] He is constantly doing good works, going above and beyond what most mortals do to be accommodating, caring, thoughtful, kind and generous…..all as part of his struggle to “become good."

Here’s the deal: I’m motivated by a good and well-written story. But, a story is compelling, a character is compelling when there is movement and tensions to be resolved. The higher the stakes, the more interesting the story.

Honestly, here are the most compelling story arcs that I’m finally starting to see:

[1] So-Ah is this remarkably loving and kind-hearted person, but she’s hampered by the unforgiveness she harbors against her father who has not only given his love to other “orphans” but also ultimately abandoned her for unknown (and frankly, to her, unacceptable) reasons

[2] The deities’ unresolved prejudice and discrimination against "half-breeds" like Hu-Ye

[3] Hu-Ye’s own struggle with his past sins, his desire for redemption and belonging

[4] Habaek’s unresolved pain regarding Nak Bin, her betrayal and unresolvable difficulty in falling in love with mortal women

[5] The consequence for Habaek not to return to the Water Kingdom

The writer left the reveal re: the threat to Habaek's very existence too late. Hu-Ye's story seems to be the driving force. Had we known sooner than this that Habaek would cease to exist if he failed to return to the Water Kingdom would add poignancy, tragedy, and weight to his love for So-Ah.

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I think that Ha Baek’s story arc from the beginning is about his redemption, and growth as a god capable of empathy, in order to be worthy of the kingship. Clearly he was sent into the human world stripped of his godly powers by the high priest so that he could experience life as a mortal, and to get to know and understand mortals, who are his charges.

He needs to learn what it is like to be human so that he can come down from his pedestal of haughtiness and indifference toward humans.

He needs to be redeemed because he let his former lover be punished for eternity. Nothing is worth that, not even betrayal by one you thought loved you, not even humiliation. He needs to learn how it is to take responsibility, feel guilt for his own actions and inactions, and to forgive. He needs to try to set things right (by releasing Nak Bin, for one thing).

He needs to take responsibility both for embarking on a love relationship with So Ah, and for being the king of his realm.

He also needs to learn to overcome his prejudice towards Hu Ye, who did not ask to be born and certainly did not deserve to be trapped in a cave from birth to death for thousands of years, in an un-life of hardship and loneliness. He will need to learn to lead the other gods by example.

From the beginning, Ha Baek has not been a bad person (god), but he has not been a good person (god) either. That needs to change for me to cheer for him as a (the?) hero of the story.

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Great points.

But do we really see these traits of character growth in Habaek? I think not. Either because the writer isn't really focused on showing us that he now has more empathy than he did at the beginning of the drama, or NJH is failing to convey that through his acting, or a combination of both factors.

I love steamy kiss scenes as well as the next person, but I wish they'd tone down the romance and focus more on Habaek's personal growth and fill it with more substance.

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I think we're seeing Ha Baek's character growth, although it is painfully slow and in teeny tiny increments (as well as sometimes even going backward--which is true to life). I don't know how the show will convince us in only a few more episodes, given the slow development. Also, Hu Ye's story is way more dramatic, and thus overshadows Ha Baek's story arc (as written and acted).

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@jamieopso,

Agreed, and you bring up the points I failed to before. And if the Show had explored and developed your points consistently and compellingly, I would find Habaek's story as interesting as Hu-Ye's...but as you said, his character development is painfully slow, and even regressive at times, which, true, is real to life: but not very interesting in a 16 episode drama.....

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@pineapplegongzhu

You’re right, of course! I am also lukewarm about Ha Baek at this point because he does certain things that really bother me in his relationship with So Ah, and I am not sure the show is going to address those things. For instance, I don’t like it that he does not feel the need to ever explain anything to So Ah. When she asked him why he didn’t tell her that Hu Ye was from the Heavenly Realm, he said “Do I need to tell you?”

Granted, he was upset and worried about her safety as well as jealous, and sorry later, but he still didn’t tell her what was going on. He was the same when she was asking about his visit with Mu Ra. And he hasn’t opened up yet about his relationship with Nak Bin. It’s very lordly, and it seems he doesn’t regard her (or anyone) as his equal. That would be difficult in a relationship. Though she doesn’t have his powers, in a relationship, they need to be emotional equals. Or so it seems to me.

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I wouldn't let it get to you too much. On the one hand, it's definitely very frustrating for them to watch an episode, come here to squee with fellow viewers/fans about the main OTP and NJH, only to read either: A. everyone else squeeing about Hu-ye, and/or, B. comments that Ha-baek is boring, So-ah has problems being expressive, and the OTP just lacks chemistry altogether. Goodness knows it used to be pretty frustrating for me to just want to comment with fellow fans on Running Man episodes only to see reams of text on how RM is getting boring and stale and soon to be shut down.

On the other hand, I stop feeling sympathetic when people drag it into "I came here to have fun but no one's talking about my OTP and I feel so attacked" territory. It's nice when people discuss on the aspects of the show you like, but it's hardly obligatory for all of us to make comments on the OTP or NJH. If you do want to comment positively, good for you; even better if people engage for the squee. But I watch this kdrama to cut loose and have fun; I discuss about things that stimulate me--in other words, things that make me happy.

This is not English class. This is not Korean Entertainment class. I am not obligated to discuss things they want discussed, and I will not be guilted into feeling as though I've ruined someone's fun just because I like to talk about things that make me happy.

That's just my view on this. I don't really want to express this so explicitly again.

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I have an issue with the gods, for sure. Bi Ryeom is one of the types of people I find frustrating and very destructive in real life: quick to act without thinking; constantly acting out according to emotions which means temper tantrums; with very little self-reflection, and hence little character growth.

Bi Ryeo feels guilty? Then why not reflect on what he did wrong and try to change himself and his actions? Or figure out why he is actually not to blame for Mo Myeung’s death? Why lash out at others because of guilt?

Bi Ryeom is angry at Hu Ye for being born? Why not think about how ridiculous that is? Who has any say over being born?

Why take everything out on everyone else, all the time?

All the gods bother me because they don’t talk things out, or explain things to others. Too stubborn, too proud. Exhausting, all of them.

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If I were to pick one thing that I truly didn't like about this drama would be the vile hatred over someone for "just being born" and calling him an abomination when it was no fault of his own. I think the anger and hatred towards half-lings really stems from the fear that the other gods have of him. As someone pointed out earlier, he actually has the power to KILL gods. So rather than teach him how to control his powers, they rather psychologically destroy him, so that he would feel too worthless. There must be others around, because the high priest did say that some of them decide to be good and some decide to be bad.

That's another story in itself. Exactly how many are out there? Where are they? How were the gods able to control the bad ones or are they out there constantly providing a threat to them?
Why did the writer write this type of thing in the storyline, as to where it was not in the original manhwa.

Also something to note. In the manhwa, the gods DID procreate. It showed Habaek's parents holding him when he was a baby.
Also in the manhwa, Hu Ye was the son of the Emperor of the gods

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@j9: "I think the anger and hatred towards half-lings really stems from the fear that the other gods have of him. As someone pointed out earlier, he actually has the power to KILL gods." Thank you for this insight! That makes a lot of sense. And death must seem that much more frightening for beings with more to lose (eternal life).

"Exactly how many [demigods] are out there? Where are they? How were the gods able to control the bad ones or are they out there constantly providing a threat to them?" These are really good questions!

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