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Open Thread #527

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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I have to say... the Subway themed Black Friday ad is pure genius. I'm trying to decide what to buy. I really want some make up and skincare stuff even though I rarely use any of it.

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Has anyone had any shipping woes yet? I'm hesitant in getting anything else until I get my first order, which I think got lost between Korea and here. Hopefully, it's found soon--my Goblin OST is in it! :(

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Oh no :( Please email shop@dramabeans.com to check on your order.

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"Joseph" is helping me out, I think! I had a problem with my second order too--but I always seem to have the worst luck when it comes to on-line shopping. *fingers crossed!*

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And the delete function is on the fritz again I see? Running a popular blog must be so stressful! "Fighting!" @mary, and all the other DB minions!

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LOL! I was just thinking that the banner sure reminded me of Subway. I wonder if our favorite "truck of doom" is speeding around to deliver what we order? 😄

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Methinks the DB Delivery Truck Of Non-Doom will be replacing St. Nick and 8 tiny reindeer. ;-)

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hmm.. i actually kept missing the ad because my mind automatically thought its a subway ad.. until i read your post and checked again..

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Yes when I saw the Subway style ad I so appreciated it and wanted to come say so too! :D

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Anyone have any luck finding subs for "Smart Prison Living?"

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I hope our beloved Avengers Subbing Club (who did on Buamdong Revenge Club) will voluntarily do the sub for this drama too. I wonder if none of legal sites is doing the sub for this drama though.

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I wonder if Netflix picked it up and is waiting till it ends? I'd assumed someone would sub it somewhere because the Answer Me series is such a big deal, but no luck so far :(

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According to Netflix it'll start on 28 november.
Just google "prison playbook netflix" . Although the synopsis is wrong, cast is the same according to netflix canada ☺

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I was so confused after reading the synopsis. I hope it's the drama we're hoping for and not some random drama with that synopsis.

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Open Thread Week 42. Hi everyone! I hope you all had a great week. I’m writing this from sunny Florida. Spending some R+R time with the family, at the end of the year.

Because this life is our first has me thinking about my “room 19.” It’s from a short story by Doris Lessing that was the theme of one of this week’s episodes. It’s certainly true that married or single, everyone needs their “alone time.” It’s nothing to be ashamed about. For my husband, it’s fishing here in Florida. It’s a time to reset, to hit that ctrl+alt+del and recharge. For me, it’s any alone time; time to watch kdramas, write on an open thread, share my thoughts. Although, I think I have a lot of other things that help me find myself, to not get lost in what I should be to others, to keep me grounded. But I am thankful to have this outlet, like so many of us, it’s highly cathartic and just so much fun to be able to communicate about this thing we love—which may not be that important to the rest of the world—and have a consortium that is likeminded.

Besides for this, I’ve been on a Lee Min Ki binge. Just his movies (For the Emperor, Spellbound, and Very Ordinary Couple), because I can’t commit to another drama right now. So, I’ll probably have to pick up Dal-ja’s Spring after BTLIOF. He’s really amazing. He’s not attractive in an obvious sense, but he just leaps off screen. He’s definitely cut like a model though. (Was he a model? If not, he should have been.) And, apparently, that’s the type of actor I like. It’s just crazy how I gravitate towards them.

Oh, and this happened this week, which tickled me to no end…Background: I received an email from my kids’ school secretary informing me that my daughter had been selected as an alternate for the geography bee, and I had no idea this was a thing.

*While picking my kids up from school, and putting their backpacks in the trunk.*

Me: Daughter! I got an email that you’re in the geo bee. How did that happen?

Son: We all had to take a test—but I didn’t really care about it.

Me: *Walking around to the driver’s side* What kind of questions? Like about countries and stuff like that?

Daughter: There was one about Kpop.

Me: What? *Thinking I must have heard wrong as they were getting into the opposite side of the car.*

Son: Yes! There was one about Kpop and Seoul. Like you had to know that Kpop came from South Korea and that Seoul is in South Korea.

Daughter: Yeah, that was the only one of two questions on the test that I didn’t have to guess about! I remembered Goblin talking about Seoul and the Kpop groups they were watching.

Me: How many questions were there?

Daughter: Seven, and I got six out of the seven. I don’t want to do the geo bee either, though.

Me: Well, it’s a good thing you’re just an alternate then. You don’t have to do it if you don’t want to. *Beaming with pride that my kids got the Kpop question right, and really not caring about the...

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...rest of it*

Moral of the Story: If anyone tells you that kdramas are educational, just tell them this story.

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rest of it*

Moral of the Story: If anyone tells you that kdramas aren’t educational, just tell them this story.

2nd Moral: Everyone needs a ctrl+alt+del to reset themselves.

3rd Moral: My kids are calling me for breakfast, and think I’ll make them omelets, making sure the onions are cooked! #BTLIOF

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You're such a cool mom! Giving your kids the agency to do what they want to do :)

The last time I was in Florida was last year during spring break. We went to Siesta Beach and though there were a lot of tourists/spring break vacationers, we still had a grand time. Hope you and your family will get to enjoy your vacation too :)

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Well, I’m only cool some of the time. We are having a lovely time.

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Moral of the Story: Thank you for your take on alone time in marriage. As a lifelong single I worry about this a lot. I am an introvert with an independent spirit and a hermit lifestyle, but at the same time I do not want to neglect my future partner and his/her needs. You gave me hope that it is not only possible, but also perfectly normal.

2nd Moral: I love reading your weekly updates!

3rd Moral: Sorry for borrowing your catchphrases. Have a nice weekend!

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You made my day! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! Happy weekend to you as well!

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It's possible to be married and be close to one's spouse and still have alone time. It comes with communicating this need with one's spouse. You may be surprised that the spouse feels the same way. 😃

Alone time does not need to be far or long or only once in a while. Like @Ally, I take time out from time to time, throughout each day based on how I feel. It's a nice break between the 'have-to' work times.

The other thing that some may feel strange or paradoxical, is that alone time does not always have to be in isolation. One can choose to remain in a 'room' and to keep the door closed against everyone... but I've found that depending on the other person, it's possible to let them in and to find one's haven, refuge or solace in company.

Being with someone who is warm and comfortable to be with, whether chatting or in silence, is a great way to recharge. That someone can very well be one's spouse. 😂

I hope you get to make your Room 19 where you can, and get to open it up from time to time as you choose. 😄

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It is paradoxical to have alone time in the presence of somebody else, but I kinda see what you mean now that I think about it... thank you for your point of view! I had not considered that before :)

Advantage of still living with the parents = permanent room (19) ;)

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This is something that I've always worried about if I were to get married or have kids. My need for alone time (my parents would tell me that I'm mean when they would come talk to me and I was knee deep in a book or a daydream) is such a vital part of who I am. Being around other people drains me. I worry that it would make me a bad partner if that time were to come. But then, maybe my need for alone time wouldn't be SUCH a need if it were the right person?

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There are all kinds of married people. I’m surprised at the couples I’ve met in my own life. The man who says two words to anyone all night with the woman who I can’t get a word in edge-wise. The couple who says nothing to anyone at all. The couple who are on separate sides of the room, each the life of their own party. We are all differently crafted, and if we were not, this world would be so dull, would it not? My brother is introverted, says little, and his interactions are even rarer. But even he has a girlfriend—nevermind that she’s 1000 miles away. I joke that they’re better strangers than real strangers, but it works for them. I don’t know how, but it does. So if even he can find someone, I’m convinced anyone can.

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You know that thing that in BTLIOF where Ho Rang says she groomed Won Seok into a great boyfriend and was going to groom him into a husband next? Not to the extent that it's dramatically done or meant, but in RL, when 2 people communicate deeply enough about what they need, then each party is able to understand what triggers joy or frustration in each other. Sort of grooming each other for good relationship.

Then as in all 'group' effort, there is also compromise.

I also take time to see things from the other person's point of view, and tell him mine.

I consider how much he is giving to me even as I think I'm giving so much. I find that in the give and take, it pretty much balances out.

Plus, there is actually the joy of giving.

And remember to just enjoy being with each other. Do nothing, just be and appreciate the being. Win-win. 😁

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Actually, if you end up with someone like yourself it can work pretty well. I'm pretty introverted and need my alone time; my husband has lots of hobbies and interests that he works on alone, so we can be together but doing our own thing.

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Does anybody have certain actors who are regarded as really good but they just don't care for them? I always wonder if I'm just a weirdo lol. For me, it's Yoo Seung Ho and Kim So Hyun. It's not that I think they're bad, but I never thought either of them was really special so the hype over them throws me off.

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Yes, although I won't say who, because he's so dearly loved and is the face of Korean tourism.

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I adore Kim So Hyun but I do agree with you a bit with Yoo Seung Ho- sometimes I think he’s incredible and sometimes...not so much.

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Yes, I couldn't stand Song Joong Ki in DOTS. Also don't get all the praise for Ha Ji Won and Jun Ji Hun.

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Ditto on Ha Ji Won. She always looks too artificial and unnatural to me. And her North Korean accent in K2H was horrible to my ears.

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There are some actors that I find boring to watch no matter how good their acting is, they just lack that thing that keeps me excited for their screen time. Actors like Park Seo-joon, Park Hyung-sik, and Joo Won.

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I actually adore PHS but I do agree on the other two. To each their own.

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of the ones this year, my no.1 would be the guy in signal and tomorrow with you (with shin minah).. i don't... he fell flat in the romantic drama for me.. so so so off..but he is a good actor

lee min ho
chang wook - healer is still a mystery.. good actor..but meh!
kim so hyun
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the guy from Circle

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I have a long list which I will prudently refrain from sharing 😄

But I have often thought that as actors have more chemistry with some of their costars than some others, they also have more chemistry with some of the audience more than others.

This is a very strong factor in the effect they make on every individual audience, completely apart from how good an actor they are or aren't.

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The Yoo Seung-ho hype goes back to his childhood. He hasn't done anything to earn it in a very long time.

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I have Jo Jung-seok and Lee Jong-seok on that list, though I'll admit it's for superficial reasons. I'm indifferent towards Yeo Jin-goo as well. I also don't care for Ji Chang-wook, Lee Min-ho and Kim Soo-hyun, but I don't think any of them are regarded as really good actors. I've never finished any dramas these actors have starred in except School 2013. My least favourite actor out of the Dramabeans favs is Ji Soo, but he's a terrible actor so I guess that doesn't count.

Now I think I've offended almost everyone on this site.

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Ji Chang-wook and Kim Soo-hyun are considered good actors but I'm not entirely sure about Lee Min-ho. I first saw Ji Soo in Sassy Go Go and I loved him there but Strong Woman Do Bong-soon came along and I was floored at how terrible his acting was. His eyes kept wondering off the screen like he was waiting for someone to hold up a cue card and remind him of his lines. Actually, I have a strong hate for Strong Woman Do Bong-soon in general but he was so terrible in that show.

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Alas, I never recovered from the Sideburns of Hell.

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With all due respect to him and his fans, for me I have to say it's actor Jang Geun-suk. Nice guy, I'm sure, but for reasons that to this day I still can't figure out, I find him extremely boring. ..... Because I realize that oftentimes it's the show and not the actor, I have given most of his shows a try. I watch them and sometimes I even get through a couple of episodes! But it always ends the same way. I stop watching because I'm bored to death with him. Needless to say I've never understood the hype about him.

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Same. I just don't get it.

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For me are KSH and Lee Min Ho. But I'm afraid to say it cause they have fangirls in every corner of the internet, evenn the hidden ones.

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Yeah, I've got quite a few, tbh. For me, it's Lee Min Ho, Park Shin Hye, Yoo Seung Ho and Park Hae Jin. I don't know, I've just never been that impressed by any of them, whether it be by charisma or acting skills, and you really gotta have at least one or the other.

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was looking back on my old comments, and I am so confused about what on earth 2017 me was smoking. YSH, I sincerely apologise. Please forgive me for my insolence.

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Good to see two of the actors mentioned in these comments are in my top five favorite actors. They would be Joo Won and Yoo Seung Ho. I do want to defend them but I'll just respect your views :)

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Absolutely. Agree with most of the list mentioned so far. You can throw in Suzy and IU in there too. Honestly, sometimes I just mix them up.

Was having a similar conversation with a friend about how much we think 95% of the actresses are just clones of each other. Need more Kim Seul Gi's and Gong Hyo Jin's. Even some Hwang Jung Eum types. I know she comes off 'wacky' but at least she's different.

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Hi Everyone!

I hope you are all doing well today. I also hope that all the Beanies who celebrated Thanksgiving had a wonderful holiday.

Sending a big Thank You to all the Beanies for being such wonderful drama companions throughout the year! Many thanks also go out to the entire Dramabeans Team for giving us this space to communicate with one another and to have so much fun in! All of you make watching dramas all that more enjoyable!

This week:

Temperature of Love - I'm up to the part where the parents just met and Jung-woo has decided to bully Jung-sun.

Witch's Court - Watching Ma Yi-deum and her "seduction" attempt at the bar ...... you just have to both cringe and laugh!

Mad Dog - Oh, Min-joon ..... you and your tease moves!

While You Were Sleeping - Four more episodes to go. ...... Can someone please disbar Yoo-bum before I reach the last episode?

That's all for now. ...... Take care everyone and have a great Friday!

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Hello Beanies!

Jo Jung-Seok's new drama is around the corner, and I keep wondering about something related to him. Can anyone explain me the full Earnest Bot story? I know that it refers to his beloved character in ''The King 2 Hearts", but that's all. Probably because it is an older drama and I am a Rookie Beanie. Please teach me Jo Jung-Seok! :p

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I think it just refers to his character in ‘King 2 Hearts’ (but I could be wrong). His character was sort of like a robot who learns to love. I’m not sure if there’s more to the name or not...

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Yes it is in reference to his character in The King 2 Hearts. His character was very serious, almost expressionless, but he was such an earnest and loving guy. His bromance with Lee Seung-gi was straight-up adorable and I think that's what earned him the nickname.

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I fell deep for BTLIOF. I'm pretty sure that after a while I'll nitpick the show's flaws, but no drama has made me feel a lot of ~~feelings~~ like this so far (save for WFKBJ, but it's a different category for me).

I was with my friend yesterday who had his Netflix open and I was amazed that it had so many shows, even k-dramas! I thought it would be nice to subscribe... But I'm the type of person who can watch (and keeps re-watching) only one series at a time, so I doubt I can make the most of a month's worth of subscription. Lol.

I also got a copy of Spellbound -- but I have an odd feeling that I've seen it before yet didn't pay attention? It's weird. I rarely watch anything tagged as horror (it's a horror-rom-com) so I'm sure my friends forced me to watch along with them. I don't remember watching it with my 3 college friends, so the next likely people I would have watched it with would be my high school clique.

Either way, it bothers me how some of my memories are a little hazy, to the point where I sometimes am not sure if an event happened or not. When I was in high school, I remember feeling so confused that my parents can't remember some of their classmates (lol). I'd be like, "I can still name ALL of my first grade classmates!" (lolol) Now I'm a decade older and wow, even events in the past two years can get vague for me. Is this one of the prices we pay for growing older? Lol

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Netflix was what introduced me to kdramas. I hope their content gets even better. I was so impressed they had Train to Busan relatively shortly after the movie came out. Now, if they would keep the same names of the original dramas, it would be easier to figure out what they had. Forest of secrets is on there under the name of Stranger, I believe. Strong Woman is also there now, as well as Man to Man.

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It's so strange that some of the shows they put on there retain their original title (like Misaeng) but others are changed to radically different titles that weren't even the "official" English titles when it originally aired. Like, "Listen to Love" instead of "This Week, My Wife Will Have an Affair"? Sure, the title of that show is long, but I loved it and it told you straight-up what the show was about. "Listen to Love" tells me NOTHING and makes it impossible to find! Once a month or so I take time to browse through their Korean TV Shows category to make sure I don't miss any new additions because of silly title changes.

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Ha, I didn't catch the Listen to Love when we browsed. What a bummer to swap TWMWWHAF's quirky, memorable title for such a bland one!

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@Astrojoy,

Your post resonated surprisingly strongly with me.

When I was in high school, I remember feeling so confused that my parents can't remember some of their classmates (lol). I'd be like, "I can still name ALL of my first grade classmates!" (lolol) Now I'm a decade older and wow, even events in the past two years can get vague for me. Is this one of the prices we pay for growing older?

Memory is one of those tricky things that is highly subjective.

I've often sensed that my formerly lightning-quick Random Access Memory has bogged down as my mind has accumulated scads of trivia. I've gone from being capable of instantly retrieving exactly the right word and arcane factoids out of the midden heaps of my mind to bemoaning the need to defrag my brain and update my BIOS and reboot. Years of insomnia have taken their toll, as has my melancholic temperament.

There are other factors affecting memory. As a Baby Boomer who came of age before the advent of PCs, let alone smartphones and 24/7 codependency on social media, I suspect that attention fragmented by incessant interruption is a bigger cause of memory issues than aging, especially for someone as young as yourself. I grew up when it was still possible to follow my own train of thought without the derailment facilitated by inescapable telecommunications. There was no “real time.” Reality was not virtual. It was just “life.” I feel sad for folks younger than myself who have never had the luxury of hearing themselves think unless they purposely unplug. I grew up in an analog world in which people conversed in person without technological intermediaries, and am grateful for it. Nowadays it seems you have to be a committed Luddite to live that way. I'm aware of the irony of posting this on an online forum. ;-)

The technology that was supposed to serve humanity has rendered much of the world's population slaves bemused by shiny digital ephemera mainlined straight into our brains around the clock. It has hijacked our consciousness and attention spans. We are barraged with information overload, much of it worthless.

The multitasking endemic to certain professions is another source of memory disruption. I'm a recovering former secretary. Despite the fact that my corpus callosum allegedly allowed me to juggle multiple tasks better than males of the species, at the end of the day I literally all too often wondered exactly what I had accomplished. Perhaps in the future some expert will put 2+2 together and proclaim that human consciousness cannot multitask 24/7 for years and decades on end and go unscathed.

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Memory has muscles just like our physical bodies. With data at our fingertips 24/7/365, we're becoming mentally flabby. Writing may ultimately be to blame. People no longer commit as much to memory as my parents' and grandparents' generations did, let alone Confucian scholars back in Joseon days, or the pre-literate Irish bards and judges of antiquity, or the Hawaiians who orally preserved and transmitted their pedigrees for dozens of generations encoded in chants and hula. Use it or lose it.

Re: not remembering SPELLBOUND, did you fast-foward through it, or do household chores at the same time? I have to read subtitles, so I cannot do anything else (except eat!) while viewing. I never fast-forward through scenes that seem boring because I don't want to miss exposition. But I rewind like crazy when I can't read quickly enough, or dialogue is dense or convoluted. Here's hoping you find ways to improve your recall, Astrojoy. ;-)

A couple of final thoughts on aging. Even if you're 28 (guessing from your comment that it's been a decade since high school), "aging" is not the word to use when you yourself have not yet finished maturing. Your bone ends may have fused, but your facial structure likely has a ways to go. You're still a young person to me. I say that as someone who's theoretically old enough to have a 40-year-old kid, or a 20-year-old grandchild. Boy, do I feel old when I put it that way. ;-)

One of my pet peeves: Comments that such-and-such a 20-something flower boy is "aging like fine wine." Nope. That's what you say about hotties in their 40s and 50s like Cha Seung-won, Han Suk-kyu (ROMANTIC DOCTOR, TEACHER KIM), Yoo Ji-tae and Jung Bo-suk (MAD DOG), Song Seung-heon (BLACK), and dudes on the cusp of ahjussihood like Jang Hyuk (MONEY FLOWER) and Gong Yoo (GOBLIN) who have filled out into magnificent full growth and charisma. I don't just mean military abs, as nice as they are to ogle. I mean the self-assured vibe of having come into one's own as a human being. I can only tell you that some things in life are impossible to understand until you've lived long enough to experience them firsthand. You have no way of knowing just how appealing an “ahjussi fatale” can be until you reach a similar stage of development yourself. Look forward to it. ;-)

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My memory is terrible as well, especially with names and dates. I haven’t memorized a phone number in God knows when. I’ve taken both French and Japanese and remember being pretty fluent in high school and in college, understanding at least half of most conversations in foreign films, but that’s totally gone now. One of the reasons I don’t watch jdramas is the fact I’m ashamed I’ve lost so much of that ability, and have no right to bemoan it. I actually just had this conversation with my SIL and daughter. My daughter, ever the optimist, just said, it’s because you had so much new information going in that you had to make room for. Which is also true, but it’s still a waste. I read a quote from Sarah Chang, the violin prodigy, once. She said the thing she missed the most about her playing when she was younger was that she could memorize entire concertos in 1-2 hours when she was 5-6 years old, and now it takes her weeks. Basically, playing it once and knowing it. Now, this is an extreme example, but shows us how pliable and efficient a child’s brain is. Those neuron pathways get built and they don’t budge at that age. So @astrojoy, you’re right about memory and aging. Just know that it gets worse, if you don’t actively keep learning, reading, experiencing. Those pathways are harder to build and get slow and stagnant otherwise.

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They say a younger mind is like a sponge, so we absorbed info much faster. It also helps I guess that we didn't have other stuff in the background to deal with, like bills and work and society.

In the film Before Sunset, there's a scene where Ethan Hawke's 30-year-old character Jesse says: "Now I'm older and my problems are deeper, but I'm more equipped to handle them." Well I'm not as self-confident about it as he is, but I suppose we learn about "adulting" along the way. This life is our first!

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Ah the irony of technology. It has helped us to do things faster or talk to people easier. At the same time...not so much. It also took me a while to realize that I spend so much time online that my attention span has slowly (?) changed, and shortened, that I barely read books anymore. (I tend to give books to my friends' kids for their birthdays, quietly begging them to please please read while their minds are still like sponges, instead of playing app games about guns. Haha).

Another thing is taking pictures while traveling, or meeting with friends! I used to buy the idea that I'd remember a trip better if I document it... But I got to the point where I looked at the photos on my phone and couldn't remember what I felt when I saw that landmark, what I heard or smelled or what I thought of it at that time. What I had now was simply visual proof that I was there. Not sure if I'm still making sense here...

Re: Spellbound -- maybe I was just zoning out? Haha! I was never a fan of anything horror so maybe at the time I subconsciously decided that I was not gonna like it, lol. (I'm facepalm-ing over my younger self; it was Lee Min-ki for heaven's sake!)

I also do like to rewind like crazy! Which means it usually takes me twice as long to finish a good drama episode. Hee.

Re: aging like fine wine - hear, hear! Especially with Cha Seung-won and Gong Yoo. Also, aside from the confident vibe, I think one of the things that make older people look better (not necessarily ahjussi fatales, haha) for me is their eyes. I dunno. Like the sparkle in Richard Gere's or Ian McKellen's eyes for example makes them look younger to me.

Whew. Thank you for taking time to reply btw! <3

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Oh, and Gong Yoo, I can’t let a comment about him go by without fangirling, if not for just a second! Not only has he become more physically attractive, but I also think age has mellowed him and made him more patient, kind, and just plain lovely. ☺️

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You're most welcome, @Astrojoy!

I was an inveterate reader from the time I was a kid. The kind of bookworm Mom would attempt to shoo outdoors with the admonition that I'd ruin my eyesight. Well, presbyopia has set in. Alas, all the 20-something graphic designers seem to be oblivious to what a PITA it is for some of us to read puny dim 6-point sans serif typeface. A pox upon their houses. Grrr.

Re: taking pictures while traveling. You're still making plenty of sense. I, too, have missed the bigger (or more subtle?) picture by spending too much time looking through a viewfinder instead of with my naked eyes. Eventually I wised up and started taking pictures with my mind's eye and tucked them away in my heart. After all, photos are not much good if you don't label them while you can still recall the places, people, occasions, etc. I shot tons of slides when I studied in Germany, but did I label them? There's hardly any space on them for captions!

I can see how loathing horror movies would make it hard to recall SPELLBOUND. Maybe you just weren't ready to meet Lee Min-ki at that time. LOL! (Now I'll have to check it out. Har.) I got scared out of my skin as a kid while watching FRANKENSTEIN on TV, and have had an aversion to horror movies ever since. I cannot abide terror-inducing amusement park rides, either. But somehow I could read H.P. Lovecraft.

The thing that was interesting about TRAIN TO BUSAN was that it didn't freak me out, even with wall-to-wall zombies. The vibe was different from blood-and-guts American horror flicks. To me, it felt more like a study of various characters and how they react to the zombies – who used to be people just like themselves. We see how some of them became zombified. The film had numerous heartbreaking interludes, which were done well. The closing scene hit me right between the eyes when I recognized the song.

I know what you mean about taking twice as long to get through a drama episode because of rewinding. It beats misunderstanding the plot. ;-)

Re: The Eyes Have It. The eyes are called the “windows of the soul” for a reason. One look at them can tell you a lot about a person – unless they're a great eye actor who's giving you a snow job. ;-) Come to think of it, it's not only a twinkle in the eye that is attractive, but a calm, steady gaze as well.

One of the most remarkable non-verbal performances I've seen to date was in my second Kdrama, THE KING'S DAUGHTER, SOO BAEK HYANG. Yoon Tae-young was fantastic in the role of heroine Seo Hyun-jin's deaf mute father. In the course of 108 episodes, he did only 2-3 voice overs. The rest of the time, he flawlessly communicated solely with his eyes and body language. I'd give my eyeteeth to see him in another Three Kingdoms sageuk.

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I think it was Jang Hyuk who first grabbed my attention with his ocular expressiveness in the segment “His Concern” in the omnibus film FIVE SENSES OF EROS. It was a touching and deftly nuanced performance. Not to mention steamy.

Shortly after that I watched Ryu Deok-hwan (who should be returning from military service very soon) and Cha Seung-won in the movie MY SON, and was blown away by their expressiveness. I'd been impressed with RDH's turn as King Gongmin in FAITH. He had a riveting presence for a person of such slight stature (5'5”) compared to his Woodalchi guards. Even playing a high school student in the film, he held his own with Cha Seung-won, who literally towered over him at 6'2”. CSW played a prisoner serving a life sentenced for murder who was given a 24-hour pass to visit his mother and son after 15 years of good behavior. His quiet humility was touching as he struggled to talk with his son after so many years. I was stunned to learn later that he excels at romantic comedy. He's fabulous in sageuk.

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For @Ally & @AstroJoy & Gong Yoo Fans:
My comments on a dandy English-subtitled 2011 interview with Gong Yoo on DOGANI / SILENCED, acting, etc.

http://www.dramabeans.com/2016/04/open-thread-444/#comment-2156337

Enjoy! ;-)

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This is the interview I had seen prior as well and what solidified my opinion of him! So grounded and thoughtful. That’s a great head on his shoulders and a noble heart in his chest.

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I have nothing to watch on Wednesdays/Thursdays now - can you please recommend something?

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Smart Prison Living just premiered!

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Thanks. I just found out that it should be available via Netflix from Nov. 28 as "Prison Playbook" - I will definitely give it a try.

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Ever since I’ve got into K-Drama whenever I read/watch something really good I now imagine it as a K-Drama. I’ve been re-reading Fruits Basket and thinking what an awesome drama it would make, and going totally nuts on my dream casting =P

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I was so lost without Go Back Spouses today that I just kept replaying episodes of China's Sound of My Dream Season 1. OH. MAI. GAHD. Loving all the "teachers" there, especially JJ Lin and Jam Hsiao. JJ's incredible.

Then I went on to Season 2 but there was just that little bit of magic lost - lesser camaraderie and cheekiness between the pro singers, 6 hours of preparation instead of just 3 and pre-fixed songs and so on... well. JJ was still incredible though. How did such a guy appear in the music industry. That "Walking CD", hahaha.

WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITHOUT BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS MY FIRST AFTER NEXT WEEK?!?!?! *Crying and sobbing*

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Hey actually I am new here. Just started watching kdramas a year ago. I am a student and a Indian. My kdrama journey started when descendants of the sun was launched on Indian television. From there on I have been a great fan of kdramas and dramabeans have provided me a great support. Not many people watch kdramas here so I have no one to talk to about them. Just using this platform to do so

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Welcome to DB! 😊 I'm pretty new to the blog as well (even though I've lurked around the site years before making an account) I'm having a good time interacting with the beanies I've encountered so far. Enjoy the drama recaps and news :)

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Welcome!

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I was going to go on a shopping spree for Thanksgiving, but my card got blocked because it's "abnormal spending". I mean, I'm fine with the fraud detection mechanisms, but people are bound to spend more during the holiday season aren't they?

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[Kpop related]
- 'Exo Planet 4 – The EℓyXiOn' started today! Yeah, I'm a fan.
- I just heard that they are going to hold GOLDEN DISC AWARDS in my country next year. It's going to be a two-day event set on weekdays @.@ I'm still waiting for the lineup to check if it'll be worth the work leave and money, because the ticket prices are crazy expensive!!! The golden ticket (two-day pass) costs about 500USD /gasssppp/ Yeah, I'm okay with getting the cheapest access XD I'll just save the best seat when EXO have their solo concert in April <3

[Kdrama related]
- I'm avoiding the last four episodes of Temperature of Love ;; I don't want to say goodbye to Jung-sun yet :(
- BTIOFL is still fun! LMK's angles on screen are just... mabushiii *A* While I find LMK to be visually attractive, I'm emotionally attached to CEO Ma! I need my own Ma Sang-goo in real life ;; Seriously though, he's too precious <3
- Need to catch up with Witch's Court and the last episode of Go Back Couple (NoOoo. I'm excited to see what happened to our adorable second lead ;;)

That would be all!
Have an awesome weekend, everyone!

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Are you going to be attending The ElyXiOn? So lucky!!!!
On BTIOFL, Sang-goo and Su-ji are the reason I'm still watching this show frankly. I started for Jung So-min, but I'm slowly losing interest in her love-life and I just want to focus on Sang-goo and Su-ji. I also like the possibility of a Won-seok/Bomi pairing.

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Hopefully, yes! I really want to see them all together again before a member (Suho? Xiumin?) enters the military service ;; I was lucky enough to attend Exo'luxion and Exo'rdium, so I'm going to try my best to see them the third time. Come here~ let's go to the concert together and flail nonstop!

And YESSS, please. I need Won-seok with Bomi! I think they'd make a great pair. Won-seok and Ho-rang both need to go out and explore the world... separately.

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It'd probably be Xiumin (he's my bias so I'm literally going to cry a flood of tears), maybe if SM wants to kill two birds with one stone, they'll send Suho at the same time. Baekhyun, Chen, and Kyungsoo might be among the last to go. I can't imagine a day will come when my babies have to enlist. They're still just babies in my eyes.
Also, where is here? Are you in Seoul?

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I'm a Baekhyun biased but yeah, I adore all members so I'm going to be shedding tears for all of them ;;

Ah, how I wish I'm in Seoul, or just anywhere in South Korea, really. I'm from the Philippines and Kpop is really popular over here so we get a lot of concerts every year (hoooray for me) XD

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I wish they would come to US again. I live in Cincinnati, but I'm not above buying a plane or bus ticket to whichever city they want to come to, as long as they come.

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Hi Everyone,
Happy OT and Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it!

I'm already anticipating and even feeling the withdrawal symptoms of the endwatch of another really good show. I recall how we spazzed in Healer days about how we were spoilt by it, how we'd never again be able to enjoy another show, and here I am, enjoying another show ... and feeling just the same over the end of Because This Life is Our First.

Even when I'm supposed to be doing a whole bunch of other things, I find myself re-watching the earlier episodes of this show, again and yet again. Even the OSTs and show-related MVs are played on repeat.

So, in anticipation of a hollow feeling that will come after the finale next week, I'm just hanging out here on DB and attacking YouTube for any new clips.

Still it's all good. There'll be another show to love. I just have to practise the difficult virtue of patience while on the work-front, trying to also practise the other virtue of diligence. 😆 Cheers everyone!

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Anyone else feeling disconnected from draws lately? I've dropped Revolutionary Love. I find my mind wandering while watching Because This Life Is Our First and my eyes practically glaze over when Ho-rang is on screen. The only show I'm actively in love with is 20th Century Boy and Girl. Also, I wish the acting in Andante was a whole lot better, I'm still enjoying the show though. I do like Shi-kyung and Bom together, they're super adorable. I also ship Ga-ram and Shi-young even though Shi-young is so dense she cannot tell that Ga-ram is totally in love with her. None of the new shows interest me. At this rate, I might have to take a break from kdramas.

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I think it really depends on the season and your personal preferences. There's not much going on for me either (I prefer revenge dramas lol) but I'm looking forward to Smart Prison Living. Maybe try an older drama or even check out an american show? Cleanse your palate a little.

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find something else..young sheldon? .. drama lovers.. its always about content..as long as you find something when in slump.. to sustain the love.. and then come back to dramas..

i am waiting for hwayugi.. more for hongki i guess.. enjoying his diva tantrums on night goblin so much

That's an idea.. get into variety show.. so much..so many..

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I hate Sheldon as a character so much, I don't think I could watch a show about him as a child. I'm not much for American shows, the last one I watched was Pretty Little Liars. I'm probably going to have to start watching Blackish. It has been on my to-watch list since forever. Or maybe I should just take a break from watching anything and actually accomplish things in my life. Lol.

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I loved the first two seasons of Black-ish. Haven't had time to catch up with the others.

I also think The Good Place is essential viewing and a great palette cleanser. But don't read anything about it and avoid spoilers at all costs. You can watch it from Season 1 on Netflix. Season 2 is on Hulu but they're only keeping the last five of 7 episodes so far. (It comes back in January.)

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The Good Place is great! I haven't seen season 2 but I just watched all of season 1 in a day a couple of weeks ago. Totally agree that you should avoid any and all spoilers. The finale shocked me!

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i watched . binged it yesterday after seeing your comment.. first mystery is predictable from the very beginning.. the second one.. is alright..

i was hoping for something truly awesome based on your comment :(

thanks though.. the english accent and the pastries and the pink noddy world setup is healing :)

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Blackish is funny, so is The Good Place. I really like The Goldbergs and Fresh Off the Boat.

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you are awesome. goldbergs is gold.. this has to be my catnip..

50 s: Happy family
60s: Jeannie and bewitched
70s: that 70s show
80s: goldbergs, answer me 88
90s: friends and full house
Wonder years

everyday family life, neighbourhood life.. this formula can not go wrong!!!

and its directed by seth gordon!.. and those real clippings at the end.. are pure love

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I agree with everyone on the love for The Good Place (its really forking awesome) and I'm enjoying this season just as much as the last season. I'll throw in my love for Brooklyn 99. That show is just out and out hilarious but it has a lot of really sweet moments. I love found families and thats totally what the 99 is.
As for an actual drama: Crazy Ex Girlfriend. Its a really, really good show. This season they are really delivering on the "dark" side of the dark comedy premise. This is definitely one where if you watch it (particularly this season) you need to follow it up with something less heavy.
But if Kdramas are leaving you in a slump--the Asian entertainment market is a vast one. I FLOVE AoMike in Kiss Me and Full House (thai). They are precious, chemistry scorching bunnies and I want to squish their faces off. I really want them to do another drama together. Actually, I really want them to do ALL the dramas together. ALL OF THEM.

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recent find: push.. watched some remake of 2002 thai drama.. push with lily ruk leh sana ( idon't know just google please.. decent drama.. )

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praying to god!.. please be the only one in this world (ke ke ke.. who hates sheldon)

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genius - it just can not go wrong!

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also, i am totally surprised that you stuck with revolutionary love up until now

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I was waiting for it to get better because I really wanted to like it. But it felt like every week, the writer was trying to see how much more they could make Choi Siwon's character annoying and I couldn't stand it.

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just exploring thai dramas..
I never thought anyone would be able to give korean oppas and unnies a run for their money.. but darn!.. those thai actors and actresses..

So much pretty
So much better fashion sense
So much better English pronunciation
So So So much pretty...

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Just watch TV, and my dearest fellow (south-east) asian cable channel subscribers, The Good Doctor Freddie Highmore ver. is airing on FoxLife Ch. !

*i didn't catch today's pilot show though. Gonna make sure to watch the rerun.

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Freddie Highmore is great in this. 1st episode made me cry.

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Seems the new Wed/Thu drama "Prison Playbook" should be available via Netflix from Nov 28

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Hi everyone!! I'm from india and relatively new to kdrama (only 5 months since 1st drama). I just got sucked into this dramaland with likes of MLFS and healer ..
Thanks to dramabeans i can decide which drama to watch as per my likes nd dislikes. But i would really like to watch some korean movies as well. Are there any good romantic k-movies which you can suggest me?? Pretty please! 🤗
ps: I like haters to lover trope the most. Thank you in advance.

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Oh yes, Healer is a good way to start if one wants to get into Kdramas. Good choice 👍 I don't watch a lot of K-movies though so I'm no help in this area XD

Welcome to DB! Have fun with all the drama recaps and news :)

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Hey thanks!! Same to you😊

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Welcome @gaurijadhav! I've been watching about the same length of time as you!

Korean movies seem to have a different flavor from the television dramas. I can’t say I truly understand what han means, but there’s melancholy that pervades many of these films … Here’s a short list of six movies featuring some version of hate-to-love.

Splish Splash Love (2015) | rom-com movie that was made for web
If you don’t love this movie, your kdrama card will be revoked
*cross-dressing
*hate-to-love
*Josean time-slip
*plucky, adorable heroine melts heart of handsome-emotionally-closed-off-hero

Finding Mr. Destiny (2010) | rom-com
*business relationship-to-love
*fated-to-love
*obsession-with-first-love
*Gong-Woo with two hairstyles

Heaven’s Postman (2009) | fantasy-romance
Admittedly this film is sort of weird and tepid but parts were interesting
*business relationship-to-love
*death-crossing-barriers

The Pirates (2014) | saguek comedy
*Kim Nam-gil with just enough eye-liner to melt your heart
*hate-to-love between Kim Nam-gil’s bandit and Son Ye-jin’s pirate (they starred together in Shark so there’s lots of banked chemistry here)
*forced proximity via handcuffs
*spoiler: Kim Nam-gil does NOT die in this film

Kiss Me, Kill Me (2009) | dark romance
I admit this is a weird movie and will likely not be your cup of tea. Anyway, it’s one of several in the odd hitman-in-love genre.
*love-to-hate
*hitman-falls-in-love-with-target

Masquerade (2012) | drama
Not a romance per se but one of the best Korean dramas of the past decade and Lee Byung-hun is an actor’s actor.
*Prince-and-the-Pauper (where the “pauper” has humor, deep emotional intelligence, and compassion)
*Hate-to-love isn’t technically romantic but still profound. Call it disdain-to-admiration.
*there are some romantic stirrings between the queen and her “husband”

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Kiss Me, Kill Me
*hate-to-love (typo)

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Wow!! Thank you so much.. All of them seem to fit my choice.. Adding them all to my watchlist right away.. 😊

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“The beauty inside” is one of my favorite movies in any language and it’s a great intro to many great oppas as well. It’s about loving a person no matter what they look like.

I also enjoyed The Con Artists (The Technicians) with Kim Woo Bin which is a heist movie in the same vein as Oceans 11.

A couple of of Lee Min Ki movies to get you feet wet as well, Spellbound and Very Ordinary Couple were both very good.

Train to Busan was excellent, but it is a “zombie” movie and I’m surprised I liked it as much as I did.

Other Kmovies do push the sexual and violence envelope quite a bit, so if youre not comfortable with that, read about them before you dive headlong into them. Also, happy endings are not a forgone conclusion. But they will grip you as only Korean entertainment can.

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surprisingly, korean version is somehow more in sync than the original US version.. but i love the concept.. crowdfunding the movie and the videos from real audience at the end (atleast in the US version)..

for the same reason.. i also loved lizzie diaries.. vlog adaptation of pride and prejudice.. it was filmed as real 10 minutes live vlog.. with love story going on

technology :)

real challenge: what new twist can any new adaptation of sherlock bring?
- we have had irene= moriarty, sherlock=moriarty, sherlock-watson love story,

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Finally, a Friday off of work and I can post in real time on the OT! I've been lurking for awhile now since I was always the last to post, and I'm not sure anyone was still reading it. But I have been enjoying all of your comments here.

I just have to mention how much I loved watching The Package. It doesn't seem to have gotten much attention here on DB, or in Korea for that matter, which is a shame, as it was well written, directed and acted. The cinematography was stunning, and it was a pleasure to see a Korean drama filmed in France. I have never been there, so it was like watching a drama and a beautiful travelogue at once, for me. Ensemble shows are my favorite genre too, and I love the way the writer wove in a different mini-story for each couple of travelers on the tour. And the writer did tie every story up with a bow, but it never felt forced or artificial to me. I hope a lot more beanies can have the opportunity to enjoy it as much as I did. Don't turn your nose up at it just because it wasn't popular!

Of course, I'm with everyone else on the BTLIOF bandwagon. It is without a doubt one of the best Kdramas I've seen in my 4+ years of Kdrama watching. Of course, I've been partial to LMK since Dal Ja's Spring, but even if I weren't, I would still love, love, love this show.

A little Kdrama story: A week or so ago, I had to call my soon-to-be new internet service provider to change my appointment time for installation. The customer service rep had to give me her requisite sales pitch:
Me: Do you really have to do this? I mean, I just want to change my appointment time.
Her: Yea, I kind of do.
Me: OK. But let's do it quick; I want to drive home from work and I don't want to hit heavy traffic.
Her: (Starting her spiel) What sort of things do you use your internet service for the most? Playing games? Streaming movies?
Me: Nope. I just mostly watch Kdramas.
Her: OMG, me too! And the girl sitting next to me watches Kdrama too!
Now, instead of spending a few minutes rescheduling my appointment we spent a good twenty minutes discussing Kdramas, our favorites, our recommendations, our favorite stars, what streaming sites we used. I told her about Dramabeans, so maybe I'll see her here. And it turned out the call site she was working from was only a few miles from my sister's house (in another state.) When we finished the business side of the call we said "It was so nice to meet you", even though we were just on the phone. Kdrama fans are the best, and we are everywhere. And best sales pitch interruption ever!

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I enjoyed The Package too. The only thing that bothered me was the silly antics the male lead kept getting into. I would have liked to see the lead couple actually together back home but the ending was still good.

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such an underrated show.. it was fantastic.. and truly delivered on each of its "twists".. the very first one was mind blowing :) ..don't know of anyone who got the ex boyfriend right

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Enjoyed your Kdrama story!

Just goes to show that you never know where (or when) you'll meet a fellow kdrama viewer!

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hi, I am kind of on and off today, had to drop by to say I randomly started watching a japanese drama Frankenstein no koi and it is hilarious. concept such a cliche but so cutely done, and it sort of reminds me of Edward Scissorhands (inventor made man, inventor died, man lived alone till a nosy woman let herself in and brouht him home - even the characters´ mannerisms are similar!) the monster part is nonexistent as always but they never played it up anyway and the girl in unfazed ... their reactions are so extra, and then there is, um...

better go to sleep or I too will have mushrooms growing from my neck

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This is the only place for me to let out my frustration with my drama viewing options so...bare with me.

I am pissed that Kocowa came along and messed up everything. Now there are no new dramas on DramaFever. Kocowa only works on phones, tablets and computers. I don't want to watch dramas on a small screen. To make matters worse DramaFever had Samsung to pull their app from devices they no longer support (without notice). I was told by DF that I would need to purchase a device that is supported. Huh? Why would I do that when they would eventually pull the app from that device too. Kocowa is dragging its feet with an app for smart tvs and streaming devices. UGH, frustrated is an understatement.

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That is frustrating. It looks like more companies are trying to milk the kdrama business, but we can't keep up with their changes and it leaves the viewer stranded. :(

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I'm really pissed at Kocowa, too. That whole transition period was such a mess that it destroyed much of my interest in watching kdramas. I thought I was back with the intro of all the new series at the same time in September (was it August?) and even bought the exorbitant $100 Viki prime but much of the thrill is still fizzled out for me. 2017 is a sad kdrama year for me because of kocowa.

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Hi Beanies!

I hope that y'all had a marvelous week. And in the spirit of Thanksgiving (for those who celebrate) I'm awfully thankful for you good people.

Enough with that gross mushy stuff (its really only acceptable when delivered by overly attractive actor types---hello Lee Min Ki). I have questions!

As y'all know from my board freak out that I got the job in OH! (Sometimes I think my oversharing tendencies are going to lead to me getting murdered in the streets and then I think--eh. Its been an interesting life so far. Why not go out with a bang. And then continue to overshare).

I'll be moving to a whole different part of the country where I won't know anyone at all and now I'm wondering: how do adults make friends?! You would think I'd have more of a grasp on it since I *did* just do this in August. But I have spent my entire time in CO basically curled up in an angst ball sobbing my face off. In OH, I'll already have a job (I'll have some stress related sobbing I'm sure as I learn how to DO that job) but thats one stressors I won't have to worry about. I'll meet people at my church but traditionally the people my age at church are already married and have been for a dozen years and have forgotten how to talk about anything other than their kids (and I'm not good at feigning interest) and are somewhat mistrustful of single people (like they think we're all lying in wait to steal their husbands)--a totally sad state, but its true. While I am *excellent* at being alone and crave aloneness and back out of most plans that involve me having to leave my pajamas behind for me the difference between feeling lonely and enjoying aloneness is lonely isn't a choice. You are spending time by yourself because you dont have anyone who wants to spend time with you. I dont want to be lonely in my new place.

So....how do adults make friends? (wander the grocery store singing kpop songs to themselves and latching onto the first person who recognizes them? Yell out random actor names and see if anyone responds?)

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As an adult, I have lived in at least 6 different states, so I feel I have a little experience with it. First, it's not easy; you have to work at it, unlike when you were younger and in school. To find new friends, one of the best ways is to join clubs or activity groups where you can meet others with shared interests; perhaps a hiking group, a bicycling group, or a gourmet dinner club. Let whatever your natural interests tend to be your guide. There is also a national organization in the US called "Newcomers Club" which has branches in almost any small or large city. Many people have made lifelong friends through their activities. Also, don't be afraid to try something new. If you are not particularly athletic, chose a new (easy) sport to try. Or take classes such as painting, cooking, knitting or acting. The point is, just get out there. Don't waste your life thinking of excuses why you can't do this or that! Also, make an effort to follow through with people. I have the hardest time with this, as I am a natural introvert. When people reach out to me, and suggest we do something together my first impulse is to put them off. But I almost always find that after my initial discomfort, I am happy and grateful for their friendship. Good luck in your new home! Keep us posted here on the OT!

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And yes, I can totally relate to that "husband stealer" label scenario, though I have never had ANY interest in anyone else's husband.

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Thanks for the advice @newgirl. I will certainly look for the Newcomers Club when (or before) I move. I'm a slug but I've always wanted to be more active than I am. But I'm also an introvert and I have a social anxiety disorder and things I've always wanted to try I've always shyed away from because I'm not good in social situations. I want to try an adult ballet class. And I want to take up a sport--but an easy one for the grossly out of shape *should probably work on getting in shape before finding a dance class---dance is hard and requires stamina*

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Yes, I understand the social anxiety problem; Do I ever! That's why I like physical activities. You don't really have to talk a lot. You just have to show up and try your hardest. And don't apologize too much for your lack of skill. No one ever got good at anything without practice. You may want to try winter sports like broomball or curling. FUN!

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@isthatacorner, I can relate to your challenges. I like people but I also love my solitude. I'm content to nurture a handful of close relationships and to get along with my colleagues. I live in a university town where wonderful people come and go. It's hard to get attached only to see your bestie leave after completing grad school.

I bet you'll meet a few like-minded people at your new job. I wonder your new library has for professional development or affinity groups (like professionals under 30, etc.)?

About five years ago I seriously started nurturing mentoring relationships with other women colleagues. My mentor and I met twice a month and she was such a great role model. She advised me on my toxic supervisor (he's gone now, thank God), professional development, raising atypical kids. After my mentor left for another campus, I reached out to other colleagues for monthly lunches. Mentoring is a form of leadership from within and benefits both parties.

Per @newgirl's suggestion, I'm trying something new myself—I begin ukulele lessons next month! I haven't played an instrument since 3rd grade but I've harbored a crush on ukuleles for something like five years. Who knows—I might make a new friend! (But it's totally okay if I don't. It might even be preferred that I don't. Ha! Ah, you know how it is.) I think a key difference between introverts and extraverts is that being "on" takes energy out of introverts while extraverts gain energy from other people.

This is kind of exciting and terrifying, right? Connecting with people is like a muscle; being open to new connections takes practice. I'm cheering you on! Fighting!

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@tsutsuloo,

Since you're an afficionada of the "jumping flea," you might enjoy this excerpt from Peter Moon's instructional video. It's Beethoven's "Für Elise" seamlessly segued into slack key master Gabby Pahinui's "Hi'ilawe," named for the waterfall that drops into Waipio Valley on the Big Island. Sublime. ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kkv729XBJY

In a more irreverent vein, check out "Itty Bitty Bladder Club" by the inimitable Bernice Lewis (lead vocals) of The Ladies Auxiliary Ukulele Orchestra. All of those funny-sounding place names are real locations in upstate New York. I've posted the link on my fan wall. Enjoy!

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Auwe!!! “Hi’ilawe” was actually composed by fiddler Sam Li`a. Gabby Pahinui recorded it more than once, IIRC.

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@isa,

If you'd like to get some exercise and enjoy live music, why not give contradance a whirl? It's basically square dancing, but instead of 4 couples arrayed in a self-contained square, dancers form up in two lines facing each other (that's where "contra" comes in), and work their way up and down the line to the instructions of a caller with live musical accompaniment. I belonged to a 4-H square dance club when I was a kid, so many of the moves were familiar.

At the contradances I used to attend, there was a beginner's lesson half an hour before the main event started. Also, before each individual dance begins, the caller walks the group through the movements so everyone can get the hang of it before the band starts. I found that folks were friendly and fun to be around, and looked forward to dancing with some of the regulars.

You don't need to bring a partner, which was a good thing for me as my husband does not like to dance. (Too bad, as an inordinate number of callers are computer programmers like him. They just write routines for humans instead of CPUs. LOL!) In the course of a dance, you'll get to interact with everyone on the floor in one way or another. When you get tired, take a break until you're ready to go again. It was customary to include an international folk dance, and to end the night with a waltz.

This ought to help you find a contradance near your new home. College campuses are a good bet, too.

http://www.contradancelinks.com/schedule_OH.html

I also used to participate in Scandinavian folk dancing. Fell in love at first sight with the graceful Swedish hambo, but never quite got the hang of it. The timing of Norwegian Hardanger fiddle music also eluded me. Even so, I enjoyed Scandinavian dancing while I worked in the area. Then I changed jobs, and that was that.

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There's a lot of overlap between folk dancing and folk music circles. Eventually I got around to Sacred Harp singing. The “sacred harp” is the human voice. It's also the title of a tunebook that has been in print ever since 1844. Also known as "fasola," it is a truly American a cappella art form that developed from the "shape note" method of teaching employed by itinerant New England singing masters in colonial days. I've never gotten the hang of sight reading music. But not to worry. Fasola has 4 notes instead of the more modern 7-note scale, and each has a head with a different shape. The scale is fa-so-la-fa-so-la-mi-fa rather than do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do.

Sacred Harp singing found its way to the South, where it was preserved in rural areas. Pioneers brought it west with them as they settled the frontier. I'm also pretty certain that Protestant missionaries from Boston introduced the style of singing to Hawaiian and possibly other Pacific Islanders they Christianized. Some of them are noted to this day for stunningly beautiful multi-part harmonies in their church music.

Sacred Harp is not a performance art for formally trained singers, but a communal activity for “just folks” who love to “make a joyful noise” with other kindred spirits. Although the traditional songs have a Biblical flavor, singings are nonsectarian, and all are welcome to participate. Everyone who participates, including young children, gets the opportunity to select a tune and lead it while standing in the center of the hollow square where the wall of sound converges from all sides. For this reason, Sacred Harp singings are often held at Quaker meeting houses where the benches can be easily reconfigured.

YouTube has many recordings of Sacred Harp singings and conventions, including ones held overseas. There's also a trailer for the documentary AWAKE MY SOUL: THE STORY OF THE SACRED HARP.

The subject matter is spiritually uplifting, often melancholic, but also deeply stirring. The 4-part harmonies are visceral, and hit me where I live, the way blue notes do. Maybe this is because I'm a native New Englander. Or maybe it's because my mom's paternal kin were from Virginia by way of Kentucky and Tennessee. I feel connected to my ancestors when I sing it.

I just checked the Shape Note Resource Guide by Steven L. Sabol, which lists Singing Schedules, Newsletters, and Websites of Regional Groups. I'm thrilled to see that there are even singings in Seoul and Busan, in addition to Ohio! The plaintive quality of many traditional shape note tunes is Early American han at its finest.

http://home.olemiss.edu/~mudws/resource/chap03.html

Hoping these suggestions help you make new friends when you move to the Buckeye State. ;-)

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So I've been thinking about sageuk time-travel fusion dramas and I realized there hasn't been a girl from the past traveling to the present and a man from the present traveling to the past. I would love for a Joseon girl being like, "Wait. Women can be in power?" Maybe there is a drama like that out there and I just haven't come across it yet. If there is, can someone let me know? Thanks!

Also, the ad totally looks like a Subway one, I was very confused.

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So many things to be thankful for this year!

Found out I was pregnant during the first quarter of the year.

The husband was then offered work here in South Korea in the second uarter

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Didn't know this comment went through. Yikes! Was gonna add, spent the third quarter packing and being pretty much busy. And finally for our early fourth quarter, we made our big move and shortly after, our second little boy arrived. Not everything is smooth sailing but I am still grateful for all the good things that came our way. I hope everyone a good rest of their weekend!

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All social media network sites are currently blocked in my country due to security reasons. Internet is so slow none of the K-drama sites are opening either :(
Missing my k-dramas already (it has not even been a day yet lol).

I miss Lee Min Ho. He might not be the best or the most good looking actor out there but I have a special place in my heart for him since he brought me to k-dramas. Also I feel like he has a a very strong presence on screen.

Also I'm sad that not all tvn shows are easily available with subs the way they used to be before. I'm happy if more people can watch k-dramas via Netflix but I'm annoyed that it comes in the way of our timely subs and access to those shows. Not everyone can access Netlfix.

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So I went out last night to a Korean restaurant with some friends ( not easy to find one where I live in Spain ) Tried Soju for the first time and loved it. Ended up speaking a few korean words with the owner and singing in a karaoke with my friends 😂 Now they realized how serious my kdrama addiction is..
Great night out kdrama style 😄

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Hello guys have any of y'all bought the beanie watch more dramas coffee tumbler? Is it good? I've wanted to get it for really long but it seems like it can't hold much liquid so I'm in a dilemma .-. I do hope they make a bigger one soon!

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I use Viki and Dramafever to watch my dramas, but there doesn't seem to be too many currently airing dramas that are being featured there. Am I just looking in the wrong place or am I missing something?

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Yup @mary, preparing to soothe our shattered or elated souls after the Just Between Lovers finale.

We're going to camp out to commiserate or celebrate with each other over the end of the show, so might as well have some party-therapy! You're very welcome to join us!!! :)

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tomato 🍅
coconut 🥥
avocado 🥑
hot pepper 🌶
cucumber 🥒
croissant 🥐
baguette 🥖
pretzel 🥨
pancakes 🥞
cheese wedge 🧀
bacon 🥓
sandwich 🥪
taco 🌮
burrito 🌯
stuffed bread 🥙
green salad 🥗
popcorn 🍿
dumpling 🥟
cookie 🍪
pie 🥧
sparkling wine 🍾
tropical drink 🍹
liquor 🥃

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