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Temperature of Love: Episodes 27-28

I knew that our lovers were due to have a disagreement eventually, and while I can’t say I’m entirely surprised by the source of the conflict, it comes about in a way that I definitely wasn’t expecting. For a couple who has been pretty good about communication, it makes sense that, no matter the actual subject, what comes between them ultimately boils down to a lack of honesty.

 
EPISODE 27 RECAP

Hyun-soo rushes to Jung-sun’s place after hearing him sobbing over the phone, but he seems to be fine by the time she gets there. He offers to make tea, and Hyun-soo wraps her arms around him and says, “Let’s live together.”

Jung-sun wordlessly turns to face her. He takes her in his arms, and a while later, they find themselves walking by the river. Hyun-soo is hesitant, but she finally asks why he was crying, and all he says is that he faced a reality that he couldn’t change.

Hyun-soo says that crying is cleansing, but Jung-sun just says that she sounds like someone who was raised with a lot of love. Hyun-soo brings up living together again, and Jung-sun seems skeptical that she was serious.

Later, Jung-sun confesses that he didn’t own a cell phone when they met because he was running away from his mother, and Hyun-soo surprises him by saying that she’s accepted his mother. He asks why, when her own son doesn’t want to accept her, and she just says, “Because I love you.”

Jung-sun warns Hyun-soo that letting his mother in means putting her own life on hold. Hyun-soo accuses him of being swayed in their relationship, but she says that she’ll just hold tight to him. Jung-sun replies that when someone is drowning, you have to wait until all their strength has been exhausted to grab hold of them, otherwise you’ll both die.

He walks Hyun-soo home, watching until she’s safely inside. He sits on the swings in the park for a long time, until her lights go out for the night.

The next day, Jung-woo finds Joon-ha and Hong-ah yelling at each other over her script. Joon-ha thinks some of the events in the script make no sense, while Hong-ah insists that these are scenes from her life. Joon-ha says that he can’t direct this drama and storms out.

Jung-woo tells Hong-ah that this is why he wanted her to work with Director Min. Hong-ah argues that if she does, then her drama won’t air right away on a major network. Frustrated, she demands that Jung-woo buy her lunch, and uses the excuse of helping a friend in need to get him to take her to Good Soup.

While at lunch, Hong-ah wonders why Jung-woo doesn’t just hire a personal chef, which would be cheaper than bankrolling a whole restaurant. Jung-woo tells her that Jung-sun is buying him out, just as Jung-sun approaches their table.

Two men agree to meet on the terrace to talk after lunch. Jung-woo arrives first, fondly remembering the day that he and Jung-sun decided to buy this place. When Jung-sun joins him, Jung-woo says that he only came to eat today, and Jung-sun asks if he has nothing to say to him.

He asks how much money Jung-woo gave to his mother, and why he never mentioned it. Jung-woo just asks where she would have gone for money if he hadn’t given it to her. When Jung-woo calls it a favor, Jung-sun retorts that his favors cause problems for him, and that it’s up to him to handle his mother’s money issues.

Jung-sun goes back into the kitchen and experiences his own memory of the day they bought the restaurant. He smiles wistfully as he remembers how he’d said he was glad they were doing this together, and Jung-woo had predicted that the ending would be as good as the beginning, because that’s how he liked things to be.

In the dining room, Hong-ah pretends to play on her phone while she scowls at Won-joon and Soo-jung making flower arrangements. When Jung-sun asks why she’s still there, she snarls that she’s watching Won-joon act childish. Ha, Won-joon just admits it.

Hong-ah snaps at him for ignoring her, but Jung-sun says that she’s been too mean to Won-joon. Hong-ah says that Jung-sun was even meaner to her, and that compared to the two guys, she’s being downright pleasant. She stomps out, declaring that she’s never coming back and glaring at Won-joon when he quips that she says that, but always comes back.

In private, Soo-jung tells Won-joon that you can’t control love, so she supports his love (for Hong-ah). But she asks if he fell for her just a little, and when he admits that he did, she smiles and says that’s enough for her. After she leaves, Won-joon calls himself an idiot, saying that he should have fallen for someone like Soo-jung. It’s not too late!

Hyun-soo brings coffee to her mother’s school, to talk about asking Jung-sun to live with her. She sighs that she was rejected, and that he told her not to sacrifice for him. Mom says that it’s good that he’s being responsible, and that she likes him a lot more, hearing this.

Hyun-soo says that she wants to be responsible, too, though she doesn’t go into detail. Mom says that love isn’t about pitying someone, because it never ends well, but Hyun-soo argues that not everyone is the same.

Mom wonders where the old super-picky Hyun-soo went, the one that coldly analyzed the men she dated. Hyun-soo just says that she thinks she fell for Jung-sun when he asked her to date, back when they first met. When Mom reminds her that she used to be strict about dating, she says that being cold-hearted didn’t hurt so much back then.

She joins her parents for lunch, where she learns that they received a gift from Jung-woo when the news broke about the co-writer for Unruly Detectives. Mom says that she only accepted it because she thought he and Hyun-soo would end up dating, but now she wants to know if she should give it back.

The papers are signed for Jung-sun to buy Jung-woo’s shares of Good Soup. Jung-woo offers Jung-sun one last chance to back out, saying that it’s not good to make business decisions for emotional reasons. But Jung-sun declines, preferring to do things his way.

Jung-woo holds out a hand, but Jung-sun says he doesn’t want to shake it, because he’s being swayed right now. He also promises to pay back his mother’s debt and asks for the amount.

On his way out, he takes a call from Hyun-soo, who notices that his voice sounds strange. She says she called because of how they ended things the other night, and when Jung-sun just apologizes, she complains that it makes her feel distant. She says he should ask where she is, then playfully refuses to tell him, but he just says, “Okay,” in a sad voice.

Joon-ha goes to see CP Yoo about quitting Hong-ah’s drama, and begs him to let him work with Hyun-soo as he wanted. Joon-ha promises to treat him well when his career outlasts CP Yoo’s, which irritates him.

After the restaurant closes that evening, Won-joon tells Soo-jung that he thinks Hong-ah is a habit for him, but that he thinks Soo-jung is a great person. She interrupts to suggest that they see each other for a month and then see what happens, and the smile that breaks out on Won-joon’s face is absolutely gorgeous.

He asks if that’s okay with her, and Soo-jung says that since the chase can often give you more butterflies than being in an official relationship, then a month should be enough to clarify their feelings one way or the other. She leaves, and Won-joon watches her go, looking positively giddy.

Alone in his family’s old house, Jung-woo thinks about his mother, who seems like a loving woman who doted on her young son. Jung-woo mutters that he’s coming here often these days, calling himself weak.

After a morning jog, Hong-ah calls Jung-woo to tell him to set up a meeting with Director Min. With a grimace, he agrees, and then tells Joon-ha (who’s there with him) that Hong-ah is a nutjob. They’re about to have a meeting with Hyun-soo, and Joon-ha stops to use the restroom on the way.

Steeling himself, Jung-woo goes into the meeting room first, and seeing Hyun-soo reminds him of something that happened earlier this year. Kyung had called him to Hyun-soo’s apartment because she was very sick and unresponsive after a stressful meeting with Director Min. He’d piggybacked her to his car and rushed her to the hospital.

Now he informs Hyun-soo that she and Joon-ha will be working together as originally planned. Joon-ha is thrilled, particularly at the idea of working with Kyung again, and he pouts when Hyun-soo says Kyung is probably doing interviews at Good Soup again. Hyun-soo tells him that if he likes Kyung, then he should just tell her and treat her nicely.

The three go out to eat together, but while they’re eating, Hyun-soo gets a call from Jung-sun. He’s feeling badly about the way he’s acted lately, and he says he wants to drive her home, so she begs off lunch to see him. Jung-woo lets her go, and Joon-ha notices that he seems preoccupied.

Things seem more relaxed between Hyun-soo and Jung-sun on the drive, and she asks to see his tattoo again. She rolls up his sleeve while they’re stopped at a red light, and she touches the tattoo and says she likes it, admitting that she likes everything about Jung-sun.

When he pulls up to her house, Jung-sun unhooks his seatbelt and grabs Hyun-soo in a tight hug. He tells her that he’s not going anywhere, so she doesn’t need to be nervous.

Kyung knows about Joon-ha being back on their show, having gotten a call from him about it. Noting her over-excitement, Hyun-soo asks Kyung if she likes Joon-ha, but Kyung warns that if Hyun-soo teases her, then she’ll tease Hyun-soo about what just happened in Jung-sun’s car. HAHA.

But Hyun-soo is uneasy about something, though she can’t quite put her finger on it. She says that Jung-sun makes her both relieved and nervous, and she wonders what exactly she’s feeling.

 
EPISODE 28 RECAP

Now that Jung-sun owns Good Soup outright, he tells the chefs that he has a new goal. He says that he needs a Michelin star to continue doing what he wants to do, and Won-joon reveals that apparently, Michelin inspectors have shown up in a few other restaurants lately.

They’re supposed to work in secret, but chef Kyung-soo says that they usually give themselves away somehow. Jung-sun says that they may have been here already, but regardless, they should all be at their best.

As she works, Hyun-soo worries over whether she should call Jung-sun, then decides to just go see him. She sneaks up behind him as he’s sharpening his knives (is that wise?), and she tells him that she was outside Good Soup when she called him before.

Jung-sun lifts her up to sit on the counter, looking deep into her eyes as he says a heartfelt “Thank you.” Hyun-soo tells him that she’s on his side, and he ducks his head to her shoulder and stays there for a long time.

They spend the afternoon working on Jung-sun’s terrace, building new planter boxes for more plants. They stop to eat, and when Jung-sun’s mom calls Hyun-soo, Jung-sun asks her not to answer it. He says that his mom has no reason to call her, but Hyun-soo waves off his concern and answers anyway.

Jung-sun’s mom asks if Hyun-soo and Jung-sun are still dating, and Hyun-soo confirms it. In a sad, pitiful voice, his mother asks Hyun-soo to be nice to him on her behalf, and to call her if anything happens to him. Hyun-soo agrees, and after hanging up, she tells Jung-sun that his mother is worried about him.

He tells Hyun-soo that he’s not on good terms with his mother at the moment, and that he doesn’t want Hyun-soo to be some kind of messenger between them. She asks him how he can decline his mother’s call, reminding him that she’s still his mother, but Jung-sun tells her that she doesn’t know everything about his mom and family because it’s still difficult for him to talk about it.

Hyun-soo says that she heard some of it from his mother, and that to her, he and his father are different. You can practically see Jung-sun shrink back emotionally, and he jumps up to make coffee. Hyun-soo watches him, knowing that something is wrong.

Hyun-soo’s mom meets up with Jung-woo to thank him for being good to her and Hyun-soo, and for the gift he gave to her and her husband. She gives him something, but she’s not returning the gift he gave her. It’s a jar of homemade citron tea, and Jung-woo looks incredibly touched.

After Hyun-soo leaves, Jung-sun thinks about what his mother revealed to her about his past. He recalls Jung-woo saying that it’s not a good idea to make decisions when you’re emotional, and he decides to call his mother. She guesses that he’s calling because she spoke to Hyun-soo, and says she’s been avoiding him because she’s scared.

Jung-sun tells her not to call Hyun-soo again, and she drops the caring mother act to spit that he cares more for Hyun-soo than he does for her. Jung-sun just tells her to let him know how much her debt is and hangs up on her.

That night, Kyung finds Hyun-soo staring out the window, thinking about Jung-sun’s promise not to let anyone tear them apart. Hyun-soo asks why she’s feeling so lonely when she’s in love, and Kyung calls her crazy and manages to tease her out of her funk a bit.

It’s the first day of Good Soup’s new menu, and one lunch reservation is a party of two, one of whom is a foreign gentleman. After seating them, Soo-jung tells Jung-sun that she thinks they might be Michelin inspectors. Seeing that all his chefs have frozen solid, Jung-sun reminds them to just focus on doing their best.

Still, Jung-sun can’t help but step out of the kitchen to watch the men’s reactions to their meals. He tells Won-joon that they’re too obvious to be Michelin inspectors, and sure enough, one of the men leaves behind his business card, revealing that they were just investment bankers. Won-joon heads back to the kitchen to tell the guys, who slump in disappointment.

Over in Jung-woo’s office, Hong-ah is annoyed when she shows up for their meeting before Director Min, which she thinks gives him the upper hand. LOL, Jung-woo wipes his face of all reaction, but it’s still clear that he’s thinking she’s a whacko. When Director Min finally arrives, Jung-woo tells the two that he’s not interested in their war and to go somewhere else to talk.

They relocate to a coffee shop, where Hong-ah hands Director Min a contract stating that if he changes her script, she’ll sue him. Director Min is offended, but he does assure Hong-ah that he likes her script.

Hyun-soo takes another call from Jung-sun’s mother, who invites her to lunch. Mom says that she’s seeing Jung-sun soon, and that she’ll be upset afterward, which is why she wants to see Hyun-soo. Hyun-soo agrees, though she doesn’t look happy about it, and when she hangs up, Kyung says that Jung-sun is “super great,” but his mother is “super stupid.”

Jung-sun shows up to meet with his mother looking guarded, and he gets right to the point, asking how much she borrowed from Jung-woo. His mother says it’s not much, only about fifty million won (roughly fifty thousand dollars). She says she’s scared of him when Jung-sun asks the exact amount, and he sighs, supposing that this is the only way she knows how to live.

He leaves and his mother goes to meet up with Hyun-soo next. Mom picks at her lunch, suggesting a drink when Hyun-soo asks what’s wrong. Over a beer, she asks Hyun-soo to listen to her life story, turning on the waterworks as she asks why she was even born, or why Jung-sun had to be born her son and suffer like this. She asks Hyun-soo if she thinks she can change, and Hyun-soo reaches out to take her hand comfortingly.

Later, Hyun-soo waits for Jung-sun to get off work. He’s happy to see her, until she tells him that she saw his mother. Still tipsy from their drinks, Hyun-soo says that she was moved by his mother, and that she wants to be good to her.

Dropping her hand, Jung-sun asks why Hyun-soo didn’t think to tell him before seeing her. He reminds Hyun-soo that things aren’t good between him and his mother, but Hyun-soo argues that she has a relationship with his mother too, and can’t just refuse to see her.

She adds that she can’t very well leave out his mother if she’s to be a part of his life. Jung-sun asks if she’s really just nervous about him, and Hyun-soo admits that she is. She says that she’s nervous because he’s never been unsure before, and that she’s scared he’ll give up on them.

Jung-sun finally speaks, saying, “You don’t trust me.” He turns and walks away, and Hyun-soo calls out to his back that it’s not just fun and games to her. She accuses him of only thinking of himself, and he turns back, a look of disbelief and betrayal on his face.

 
COMMENTS

Oh Hyun-soo, why?? I know she wants to help, and to be an active part of her relationship with Jung-sun, but her first and most important responsibility as a partner is to respect her partner’s wishes. Jung-sun may not have given her the embarrassing details, but he made it quite clear that he wants as little as possible to do with his mother, and that he doesn’t want Hyun-soo to get involved with her, either. But Hyun-soo is letting herself be manipulated by his mother despite Jung-sun’s asking her repeatedly to stay away, and I knew it wasn’t going to go over well.

Hyun-soo may be naïve about Jung-sun’s mother’s ability to twist the truth because she came from a family who is open and honest, and I can even understand her frustration at how closed-off Jung-sun can be about why he wants her to keep her distance. But trying to get closer to him through his mother is the wrong tactic—even if his mom were the nicest person on Earth, Hyun-soo’s primary loyalty should be to Jung-sun. If I were Jung-sun, I think I’d be furious with Hyun-soo. He specifically asked her to stay away from his mother and she ignores his request, then reveals that his mother has told her some very personal and sensitive things about his past. Those things were nobody’s but Jung-sun’s to reveal, in his own time and in his own way. And then, after he asks her again not to see his mother, she goes and does exactly that.

To learn that his mother betrayed his trust, and then to have Hyun-soo flat-out refuse to honor his request not to speak to the mother whom he’s spent years trying to get away from—that would hurt anyone, much less an intensely private person like Jung-sun. And now his mother has gotten to Hyun-soo again, and I’m certain that her version of her life story is very different than the one that Jung-sun would tell, if Hyun-soo had simply respected his wishes and he’d been given the chance to tell her in his own time. He said he wasn’t going anywhere, but after learning that Hyun-soo and his mother have been violating his privacy, I won’t be surprised if he breaks that promise, nor will I blame him.

On a happier note, I’m so excited for Won-joon and Soo-jung, because even though their beginning is tentative and careful, it’s still a beginning. They have so much chemistry, and the smile that breaks out on Won-joon’s face whenever he talks to Soo-jung is pretty telling. I think he likes her more than he realizes; it’s just that he’s been “in love” with Hong-ah for so long that like he said, it’s become a habit. It’s going to take him some time to break that habit, but luckily he’s found a woman who’s willing to go slow and give him time. And it helps that Won-joon is aware that while Hong-ah is a habit, she’s a bad habit, one that needs breaking. He’s also fully aware that Soo-jung is a good woman, the kind he should be falling for, so I think that he’s going to do exactly that. I can’t wait to see it.

As for Jung-woo, he continues to defy understanding, though now he’s swinging in the opposite direction. After all that posturing about how he’s going to see this to the end and do his best to get between Jung-sun and Hyun-soo, now he seems to be backing off and letting them both off the hook. He didn’t fight Jung-sun about his buying him out of Good Soup, nor did he use his loans to Jung-sun’s mother to put pressure on him. And he’s giving Hyun-soo everything she wants for her next drama with hardly a word. He admits to himself that he’s weakening, but I just wish we knew why, and what caused this change in his behavior. Not that I’m not glad that he seems to be backing down, but when I don’t know why he’s acting like he is, it worries me that he’s going to bounce back worse than ever.

 
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Mothers!!!

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That should be printed on tee-shirts lol

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So many different interpretations that could be had. I would buy a "poor son/daughter-in-law" tee.

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@mephaleph

/dramatically throws paper works- or dishes, depending where you are right now/

OMG the intense emotion I had in me when my brain read this XD so dramatic, indeed

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A few weeks ago, I would have given this drama a 5/5, easily. The one fly in the ointment was Hong-ah and she served her purposed as a plot device for helping to get our OTP together. Little did I know that this fly was carrying the plague or something cause so many other characters have been affected by lord knows what. I get that the point is to show how outside agents can affect a relationship, and this is true to life. However, the way it's playing out is really frustrating for this viewer to watch.

What was once a drama that was a joy to watch is now one that I labour through for the sake of loving this show so much in the beginning. I guess I'm like so many of these characters in love who don't know when to quit. My instinct during these hard times is to think, why couldn’t they just____(insert whatever idyllic idea I can up up with here). If I’m being honest, it’s becoming almost a knee jerk reaction to many different setups and situations in other dramas as well. I think many a drama have now ruined me. Argh.

Lastly, Jung-woo. Oh Jung-woo. Just like Hong-ah, the damage has been done. While there is a separation of personal and business, he crossed the line bringing his personal issues into business and now wants to admonish Jung-sun for being emotional and parting ways!? Just like Hong-ah, Jung-woo does not deserve a happy ever after ending. IRL, relationships like this take time to repair, and lots of it too. If it ever does repair, it's often never the same again.

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oh dear. What has happened to this drama?? I think I’m watching this just for the sake of loyalty towards Seo Hyun Jin. But seriously, if the leads weren’t these actors, I think I would have already dropped it.

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IKR. I'm wondering the same. I can remember some beanies said that the writer tends to have a solid start and everything goes down hill after than. I should have headed those warnings but it was too late. I was already ensnared.

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After watching this, Reunited Worlds and Ruler: Master of the Mask, I kind of think that is a general problem with these half-hour episodes in general. Mostly it is just me having bad luck with this kind of series, but so far many of the half-hour dramas I've watched have good beginnings with interesting premise, then just flails around until the very last week where it gives a strong ending. The exceptions for me are The King Loves - which was consistently interesting yet messy all the time - and 20th Century Boy and girl - which don't really HAVE anything really interesting going on except extreme cuteness.

I was nervous about this show when I started with that in mind, but I was really interested to see how they would make an antagonistic second lead when the story thus far had been so mature and grounded, because I love me some antagonistic second leads. But as soon as JW revealed his intentions to the two of them, I lost interest because it felt out of place. Yonsangun in Seven-Days Queen could get away with it because the setting and premise were already unrealistic and the positions of the characters made that their least problem. Not so much in ToL. :P

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With some shows I think it's a matter of too many episodes. Cut a 16-episode show back to 12 from the get-go and tighten it up.

What's interesting to me is that Jung-woo said he'd shake them up, but he punked out. It's become apparent to me that his mommy issues are diametrically-opposed to Jung-sun's. He's got abandonment issues whereas Jung-sun is trying to escape from Narcissistic Mom. Although the Big Boss likes to think that he's Mr. Rational when it comes to business, I got the impression that he was truly surprised by the outcome of his playing chicken with Jung-sun, who has had to learn how to counter his mother's ruthless shenanigans, and basically has adopted a take-no-prisoners approach. Jung-sun is a lot tougher mentally than he gave him credit for.

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"She's still your mother". Nooooo. Noooo! How did Hyun Soo get to her age without having a friend with a narcissistic parent? Step back, lady, you are not the bridge between this woman and her son. He's explained quite carefully that he is on the verge of totally discarding her, and yet you violate his trust by going to see her?

The self-satisfied expression on Hyun Soo's face when she hinted that she'd heard about Jung Sun's past and so understood his mother more made me literally groan at the screen. So bad.

I guess all of us from loving households make this mistake once (I did in college and quite properly lost that friend, who was doing heroic work placing boundaries on a narcissistic parent) but it was painful to watch here. Jung Sun's doing such a good job limiting his mother, and now his girlfriend has gone and co-opted herself even after his warning and falling for all of his mother's tricks. Ouch.

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@Miranda,

You and I are on the same page re: Hyun-soo's collusion with Narcissistic Mom.

I see Hyun-soo's fraterninzing with Jung-sun's mother – against her own initially-better judgement – as a form of people pleasing. This is classic codependent behavior, and she seems to have bought Narcissistic Mom's sob story hook, line, and sinker. When she continues to speak with Mom and meets her at the restaurant, she's exhibiting rescuing behavior, in addition to playing right into Mom's manipulation. How naive is she?! Mom is playing her like a fiddle. Jung-sun has set rigid boundaries against her invasive behavior, but Hyun-soo ignores his requests. He's built the Great Wall of China to keep Mom out, and Hyun-soo has turned into a spy bent on subverting his defenses.

When Jung-sun spoke about rescuers allowing a drowning person to exhaust themselves before attempting to save them, I thought it was an appropriate metaphor. When he told Hyun-soo that everything he has been trying to suppress is in danger of falling apart, I don't think he overstated the case. But she has never seen him falter before, thanks to his stiff upper lip. Hyun-soo was not privy to exactly what is involved, so she doesn't know how to interpret his statement. It alarms her, and she instantly fears that he is going to disappear again. He has not been specifically forthcoming about his screwed-up family and its effects on him, but he has mentioned the bottom line. The way he expresses himself makes me think that he may have spent some time in therapy after all. My sense is that he is more mature and self-aware than she is. He has certainly had the kind of life experiences that typify the phrase “What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.”

When Hyun-soo tells Jung-sun to put himself in her shoes when he asks her why she answered his mother's call despite his having told her not to, I felt like screaming. Why the heck didn't she put herself in his shoes? He's told her that their relationship is strained. In the past she even said that dealing with his mother has made her appreciate him that much more, but it sure seems as if her romance is now with Narcissistic Mom. The look in Yang Se-jong's eyes when she picked up the phone and proceeded to answer Mom's prying questions was right on the money. Betrayal.

As I see it, Hyun-soo is uneducated in the typical ways in which children who grow up in dysfunctional families are compromised. Jung-sun has not yet let down his guard, but it's clear that he wants to. The fact that he allowed her to hear him sobbing rates as a breakthrough in my book. It's also clear that he's not going to relinquish his hard-won survival strategies overnight. The pair of them would do well to have individual as well as joint counseling with an enlightened professional capable of persuading both of them to open up about their private stumbling blocks.

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I fell in love with this drama because it felt so refreshing. Characters, especially leads, were interesting, mature, outspoken and respectful of each other (let's not mention Hong-ah though...). But what happened? Jung-woo and his actions are beyond comprehension, Hong-ah is becoming just more and more annoying and the leads stopped listening and talking to each other. It was so good at the beginning, so what happened?

These days I'm waiting mostly for Won-joon and Soo-jung scenes, because this pairing is beyond amazing (if the writer leaves Won-joon with Hong-ah I'll lose it). Oh, and of course Kyung and Joon-ha too, they are just as awesome.

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I will flip a table as well if Won-joon ends up with Hong-ah. TBH, Kung's chirpy disposition is becoming grating. I liked her for a minute, and that minute has passed. Joon-ha pisses me off. I'm trying to think of one prominent character who hasn't/isn't pissing me off. Probably Hyun-soo's dad.

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Well I would like Kyung to be more honest with herself, but I'd still choose her or Joon-ha and his bad moustache (shave it!) over Hong-ah any day. Nobody can beat her in being annoying. So basically, as long as it's not Hong-ah, I'll like the character.
Yup, Hyun-soo's dad seems like the most chill character in this drama. And Soo-jung too.

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I officially decided to drop this show starting this episode (which I think I should've done sooner) but here I am checking the recap confirming to myself that I actually did the right thing.

Ugh, what happened to this show really? I even considered it as my main at one point, such a disappointment.

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It was a top show for me too, but when you compare the dramatic first scene to whole episodes where nothing happens but talk, talk, talk - ugh! The most interesting relationship is between Won Joon and Soo Jung, and they're not even the second leads.

I read the recap, and I feel like I don't need to see it now. Why waste an hour? Temperature of Love is competing for my time against three other more interesting shows on Mondays and Tuesdays, and it's just not making the cut.

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Me too, officially dropped after watching episodes 25-26 and just reading recap to see if anything missed.
I already overstayed for Seo Hyun Jin and Yang Se Jong, but the show is getting really boring even with 2x speed watching.
Seems like the writer has this same problem with both Doctors and Temperature of Love. After episode 8-10, things wil start to get boring till ep 20 with no major changed in between.

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I knew this couple have a lot of problems between them but definitely housing was not one of them 😀one of the most dense k drama that’s been written here and pity that Seo Hyun Jin is playing it ...sigh ....

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k drama **heroine **

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I read on a diff site that although the scriptwriter is the person who wrote the book (Ha Myung Hee), she said to fans that the source book and drama may end differently...

Unless Jung Sun murdered/murders someone, Jung Woo shouldn't get the girl. I'm embarrassed to have even liked the dude as a 2nd lead -.-

Honestly both sets of parents are frustrating at this point. Hyun Soo's mother has that passive look+pointed voice aspect about her that I really hate. I can imagine her being pretty frustrating down the road.

Ultimately I stopped watching this and am only watching Revenge Club this cycle. I'll definitely stick around to read and commend you on sticking with the trainwreck tho. Good luck!!

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Seriously, this drama went back to being weak again. Last Monday’s episode was also frustrating and then it got somewhat better on Tuesday.

If it weren’t for Yang Se Jong and Seo Hyun Jin, I would have dropped this show.

I felt like I barely gained anything from this episode. I get that Hyun Soo wants to be on Mom’s good side and try to maintain an amicable relationship, but she should have listened to Jung Sun first and foremost. With his mature and reasonable traits, I hope he gives her another chance and not try to break away from her.

One good thing: Yang Se Jong’s smoldering eyes. He nearly killed me with all his intense stares.

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Hyun Soo is about to get a rude awakening about moms. It seems like she grew up mostly within the boundaries of what her mother expected, so had a pretty easy ride with a lot of affection and affirmation. But her relationship with Jung Sun is not to Mom's liking, and I think Hyun Soo is going to be shocked when she realizes how manipulative her mom can get.

As for Jung Sun's mom - she's a narcissist. They're awful to be friends with and so much worse to be related to. They absolutely wreck family dynamics by whipping up drama and turning elements of the family against each other, and they excel at exploiting traditional "family values" to force contact.

For a woman who supposedly writes dramas with complex characters, it's kind of unbelievable that Hyun Soo doesn't hear alarm bells ringing when a son says "don't contact my mom, there are issues" and the mom promptly tries to use her to set up a backchannel. And blithely telling him "I heard about your dad" when he hasn't talked about it yet? Why not just stick your hand into an open flame?

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@Miranda,

We're on the same page yet again. For all I know, we could be head-desking in unison. ;-)

When I saw Controlling Mom going to see Jung-woo (after pitching him as a better prospect for Hyun-soo than Chef On), my heart sank. So now both mothers are messing with their kids' personal lives. I was surprised when she admitted that Jung-sun had gone up in her estimation when he declined to move in with her. (After seeing the next episode, it's crystal clear why he would make that decision. I'd forgotten that bit of his family history.) Oh, crap. She brought Jung-woo something homemade. Game over.

Apropos of narcissists, one of the common harmful behaviors is that of replacing a mate with a "surrogate spouse." I had the yucky sensation that Narcissistic Mom has pulled that on Jung-sun, too. It totally creeps me out every time she takes issue that he likes Hyun-soo more than her. Totally nauseating. One more reason for him to try to escape.

Hyun-soo tells her mother that she wants to “take responsibility” for her relationship, and then gets rejected when she tells Jung-sun she wants to live with him. She's getting a taste of her own medicine, but I do not see it as some kind of childish payback on his part. He knows what he needs to do to survive. He's under intense personal and professional pressure at this time. This is an inauspicious time to make such a significant change in both their lives.

What does she even mean by responsibility? Does she mean that making him “happy” is taking responsibility? She seems to want to take responsibility for something that is neither any of her business, nor something she could even achieve.

I have to admit that Hyun-soo's Mom did come out with one excellent point regarding pity and responsibility in relationships: “It starts with pity, gets maintained with responsibility, and it all comes to an end with guilt.” Step right up and get your red hot foreshadowing. ;-)

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@loveblossom Yang Se Jong and his intimate gestures to Seo Hyun Jin's character <3 that part when he leaned his head to her shoulder /dreamy sigh/ I feel all tingly whenever he makes skinship with the female lead. He's so good at making the audience feel the warm of his actions.

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Why do i find that reading the drama thread discussions at soompi is more interesting and fun, especially for those who are watching the drama?

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(*sigh, rubs bridge of nose*) Honestly, I want to drop this show, but Yang Se Jong keeps reeling me back in with his wonderful eyes (*swoon*). I am soooooooooooo aggravated with Hyun Soo. Seriously, how many times did Jung Sun ask her to stay away from his mother? Like, seven times? Maybe more? Gah, it's just downright disrespectful on her part to blatantly go against Jung Sun's wishes like that. Argh!!!!
I have lost complete interest in Jung Woo and Hong Ah. I cannot take Hong Ah's bratty attitude (I couldn't stand it in the beginning but I played along just because she's the second female lead, ha, not anymore, sunshine) and Jung Won's high-and-mighty persona. I honestly just skip their parts in favor for the leads (though I've been skipping through their scenes lately too) and the background romances. How cute are Won Joon, Soo Jung, Joon Ha, and Kyung? Can they get any cuter? Ahh!! I want them all to just ditch this drama and go get married and have beautiful children in their happy dramaless lives!!a

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@kathleenrobak Yang Se Jong keeps me going as well. Who knows when I'll get to see him in a drama again?! T___T So I'll definitely see this one through.

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Park Jung Woo's scene in his house seems hella suspicious and a little out of place too. I hope it is not meant to foreshadow his spiral into madness or any other sort of misfortune (accident/suicide)

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I thought it was trying to get us to feel sorry for him later on with some revelation from his childhood. I doubt I'll be affected.

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(Here comes my super, duper biased thoughts):

Hyun Soo, Hyun Soo, dear~ I thought we fell in love with Jung Sun because he always tells it straight, says exactly what he wants/means and is always true to his words? Why are you doubting him now? He said he won't go anywhere and you still question his words and actions. He asked that you limit your contact with his mother and what did you do? You just went ahead and met up with her. Where's the respect and trust you ought to be showing to each other? I know you have the right to make your choices and that you mean well with being polite and accommodating to his mother but just like @lollypip said, your number one responsibility is to uphold your loyalty to Jun-sun and respect his wishes- that's how relationships work (as far as I've observed)

Anyway, despite this melo turn of events, I'm glad we've sort of moved on from the 'love triangle' stuff and moved to a more pressing matter--- parental issues. I look forward to seeing how the writer/s tackle this one big hurdle. I just hope our OTP stays strong till the very end.

Also, Won Joon and Soo Jung, FIGHTING! I'm totally rooting for you, guys!

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Once again we're subjected to random scenes of Hongah being cutesy and innocent with cutesy music in the background.

If they want us to like this character, we need to see her character doing something that is not self-serving and show even the smallest hint of regret about the way she has treated people.

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This is a really tough one. I understand his position completely. My own mother was very much like his; beautiful but manipulative, passive-aggressive, dishonest, self-centered and much more - plus she was an alcoholic. The problem was that she was completely charming to people who didn't know her and she would use that person to get to me before they even realized what was going on. It was awful trying to explain to friends how toxic the relationship was. Everyone in her sphere suffered - and she only apologized for her behavior with her last dying breath. True story - but so sad. He needs to confront her EVEN HARDER to get her to change...but good luck - it sure didn't work with mine. What a waste.

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@lunatic4kd,

I understand Jung-sun's situation with his mother only too well myself. It is a tough case, but also very true to life.

I suspect that many "civilian" viewers are frustrated with this aspect of the plot. That would be in keeping with real life as well.

I'm not sure that confronting Narcissist Mom would prompt her to change. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. What would be healthiest for him is continuing to stay the heck away from her and declining to get involved in her mischigas.

Interestingly, this same tactic is beginning to drive Hong-ah crazy. Her "friends" no longer waste emotional energy on her when she demands their attention out of boredom. She hates not having a live audience. I knew someone like this in college.

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Thanks for your recap and comments, LollyPip. I agree with your assessment that Hyun-soo has repeatedly betrayed Jung-sun by consorting with Narcissistic Mom. She is so blind to the latter's triangulation. (I'm not talking about navigation, but injecting herself into the relationship between the two. Instead of a love triangle, it's more like a dysfunction triangle.) – I take back my comment on being blind to the manipulation. That's part of the mindf'ery of narcissism. To be on the safe side, we could add sociopathy to Mom's list of dubious attributes. Narcissistic Mom has completely outfoxed Hyun-soo.

I chalk up Hyun-soo's collusion with Narcissistic Mom to two things: hubris and naïveté, in that order. Hyun-soo has reverted to her earlier high-handed, I-know-better-than-you attitude from five years ago. She sounds just like her own mother when she was throwing her hissy fit at Good Soup, and when she decreed that children of divorce are persona non-grata as spouses.

Hyun-soo is also naive. So much so that it makes me wonder how she can actually be a drama writer. Her statement to Jung-sun that crying leaves one feeling refreshed is for the birds. While catharsis might be a useful short-term emotional release, it does not entail the necessary reprogramming of one's psyche needed to live well in the long term. In response, Jung-sun notes that she must have grown up in a loving family, but that his experience is different.

Hyun-soo claims she wants to live with Jung-sun to “make him happy.” This is naive balderdash. You cannot make someone else happy. You can only make yourself happy, and if you're lucky, spend quality time with other folks who are doing likewise.

The background music in these episodes has been interesting. I've posted the pieces I could identify on my fan wall.

"If I Die Young" echoes Narcissist Mom's asking Hyun-soo to inform her if anything happens to Jung-sun. (So she can collect on a life insurance policy?!) I'm aware that folks who grew up in families with alcoholism are at greater risk of developing the disease themselves, although I don't recall the statistics. How that might translate to families affected by narcissism I don't know.

I had to laugh at Hong-ah's citing Eric Carmen's “All By Myself” in her post on running alone. She seems to conveniently forget the negative part of the refrain.

All by myself
Don't want to be all by myself anymore...

Jung-woo's memories of his mom at home go a long way to explaining his mindset. “My Everything” by 98 Degrees sounds like a paean to his mother, making him diametrically-opposed to Jung-sun when it comes to Mom issues. Sure enough, he's falling for Hyun-soo's Mom.

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The following interview with the late Alice Miller is a fascinating introduction to the “poisonous pedagogy” of inhumane child-rearing practices that are overlooked as socially-acceptable child abuse. It also explains why Jung-sun tries to minimize contact with his mother.

Diane Connors: The Roots of Violence: Interview with Alice Miller, in: OMNI Magazine, March 1987.
http://www.dramabeans.com/members/pakalanapikake/activity/268821/

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@pakalanapikake I think because Korea is a society that’s belives in confucius filial piety. it’s hard for people like Hyun-Soo to understand a son not wanting to be close to his mother because of her narcissistic behavior. People in most societies expect you to put up with emotional abusive parents especially mothers because their placed on this pedistal in the eyes of most people the child becomes a bad person for abandoning his own mother. That’s why you’ll see often in kdrama,parents who sell out children by leaving them their debt to run off to another country are often forgiven once they come back even if the child had to suffer to pay a debt they didn’t create.This show is realistic in that couples do go through these struggles it can make or break a relationship if boundaries are not understood.

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@Riverwho,

Thank you for mentioning Confucian filial piety. It is the elephant in the room, particularly when reciprocity is left out of the equation.

Alice Miller wrote about abusive Western child-rearing practices, some of which developed during and after the Enlightenment, which wasn't as enlightened as we might nowadays wish. ;-)

When I thought about it, I realized that there is a Western Judeo-Christian analog to filial piety, and that is the 4th (or 5th) of the 10 Commandments, depending on who is counting:

"Honor thy father and thy mother."

(It means to cheerfully provide food, drink, clothing, and shelter to one's parents.)

There is also the Golden Rule:

"Do unto others as you would have done unto you."

Thanks for your post. ;-)

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I don’t know what went wrong, but this show lost its spark.. with CITT at least I know what went wrong, but here... uhh.. suddenly I lost interest.. when did the heart fluttering moment left me??

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For a moment I thought It was Gong Yoo on the cover photo for the recap..

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this drama has gotten so boring and feels like we're going around in circles lol..

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Dramabeans and everyone else who watched this drama, did you like it, love it or hate it and why?

I felt that it was a good drama. Of course, not without flaws but hey no drama is perfect. ^^ thanks for your responses in advance.
Kdrama addict LaShawn

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Nevermind, as I now see all the earlier replies.

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I feel I'm the only one that can't hate Jung woo not because I don't think he didn't do wrong. He has and deserves to feel pain. But I kind of see his love in a weird way. He's being selfish by forcing our leads hands but he's not lying when he tells Jung seon he is weak. He doesn't try hard enough; he hides his emotions and swears the world is not a bad place. He is young at heart and it's sweet but it's also very naive of him to think this way this late in age. Obviously this could be the fault of his childhood.

The scene where he finally lashed out shows he has to try to let his feelings loose before he loses everything he built. Jungwoo is purposely being his obstacle not because he loves hyun soo only (this is my opinion obviously) but because he wants Jung seon to be him but even stronger and prouder. I knew this because who says this after being hit by their best friend "this is the first time I seen you act like a human being." He wants Jung seon out of his comfort zone. Whether he is being vindictive or he is doing this for less mean reason I guess we will have to see. Either way I still like him enough. Lol

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