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Misty: Episodes 7-8 (Open Thread)

mary: How is the pantsuit screenshot collection going?

odilettante: I still love Hye-ran’s pantsuits almost as much as life itself (that baby blue one was especially lovely), but I’m now falling in love with her coat collection. Is that cheating on my pantsuit love? Honestly, I think I just want to live in Hye-ran’s closet.

mary: Let’s wait until we can confirm if she’ll still have a closet after this week’s events.

EPISODES 7-8 WEECAP

Eun-joo kicks off her revenge plan by hiring Tae-wook as her lawyer in the Hwanil Steel breach of contract case. Her endgame seems to be breaking Hye-ran’s marriage by exposing Tae-wook to the possibility that his wife cheated on him, which is what the “breach of contract” is about: Kevin Lee’s rumored affair with Go Hye-ran.

Eun-joo also keeps Tae-wook away at odd hours, running all sorts of non-lawyer-y errands like driving her to the OB/GYN and back. Even Hye-ran starts to feel lonely at home, imagining her friend and husband having fun together.

Meanwhile, Myung-woo beats the cops to the punch (literally) and catches Kevin Lee’s blackmailing manager before his rendezvous with Hye-ran. No one is more surprised than her when Myung-woo shows up instead of the manager, stealthily passes her the original pictures with Kevin, and vanishes right under the cops’ noses — like he’s Hye-ran’s personal ninja, or something.

Hye-ran also starts to warm up a lot to her ex-enemy-now-cherished hoobae Ji-won. She encourages her to dig into a construction-related corruption case which involves subsidiaries of Hwanil Steel. This gets Hye-ran in trouble with her boss who wants her to live a long, healthy life as an ignored careerwoman and stop doing risky things. Like blackmailing her rival anchor for the Press Secretary role into declining the Blue House’s offer.

As Hye-ran’s life becomes easier, Eun-joo becomes nastier, using her knowledge of Hye-ran’s past to trick Tae-wook into playing a song that triggers Hye-ran’s PTSD and memories of the murder (and attempted sexual assault?) from twenty years ago. But Eun-joo finds it hard to stir actual trouble between the couple because Tae-wook refuses to be affected by the gossip that Eun-joo exposes him to. His loyalty annoys Eun-joo so much that she wipes her fake tears and makes barbed comments about his ignorance of his wife’s past.

Since Eun-joo can’t get to Tae-wook, she confronts Hye-ran directly about the contents of the black box chip. It’s scandalous, but it shows where she’s been and proves that she didn’t kill Kevin Lee. Eun-joo is holding on to it and deciding which one Hye-ran would hate more: losing her husband due to the affair, or having her past dug up by the pending investigation? Hye-ran is floored for a moment but refuses to beg. She tells Eun-joo the truth: she has no feelings for Kevin, but she sold her soul that night to stop him from ruining her career. She then leaves Eun-joo to choose whatever she wants to do.

Tae-wook initially shakes off his doubts, but the break in Eun-joo’s sweet act finally makes him curious. So he takes a detour from congratulating his wife on getting the Press Secretary role and sneaks into Eun-joo’s house, where he finds the video of Hye-ran and Kevin playing on a laptop.

Meanwhile, Eun-joo meets up with the detective in charge of Kevin’s case to tell him that Hye-ran was the last person to meet with Kevin the night he died. The meeting coincides with Hye-ran’s broadcast on Hwanil Steel conspiring with a corrupt congressman, and we see her defenses fall one by one: from Tae-wook looking devastated after watching the black box video, to her main backer for the Press Secretary role talking to the enraged corrupt congressman, to the jealous prosecutor being assigned to Kevin Lee’s case.

Just when Hye-ran is at her happiest, enjoying the farewell party with her news team, the cops walk in to arrest her for the murder of Kevin Lee.

COMMENTS

mary: What a bleak ending to this week. But in the interest of being fair and impartial, how about we highlight some disappointing things Hye-ran has done lately? Like when she used the CCTV footage from the tall hoobae to blackmail her rival for the Press Secretary role. Even when tall hoobae begged her with puppy eyes not to use the footage for weird things.

odilettante: Well, yes, she’s admittedly ruthless (as she’s said so herself), but she’s also doing it because she knows her rival won’t be the best person for the job. He’s easily bought by the highest bidder, which goes against every journalistic bone in her body. “News is facts!”

mary: B-but… we’re supposed to be listing her faults. Not defending them! How about when she suddenly mentors Ji-won and inspires her to chase after Hwanil Steel? Doesn’t it seem convenient that she’s acting like a good sunbae now that Ji-won is digging up dirt on a corporation Hye-ran wants to attack?

odilettante: While we can discuss all the manipulative things Hye-ran does, she sincerely believes in revealing the truth. Which is, admittedly, ironic considering her half-truths to Tae-wook. But she refuses to be bullied into submission and stands up for herself and her journalistic integrity. She’ll even sell out her own boss if it proves that he’s involved with corruption.

mary: So you’re saying she’s Machiavellian, but not hateful?

odilettante: I guess I just struggle with fully accepting Hye-ran’s actions as truly horrible when I compare them to, say, Eun-joo, who is not only the fakiest faker that ever faked, but also ruining people’s lives just for revenge — not in order to make society better. I’m still furious at the way she’s trying to sidle up to Tae-wook like she’s the perfect housewife he’s always wanted, but could never have with Hye-ran.

mary: Oh, I’m not scared she’ll steal Tae-wook’s affection. The guy is a master at denying impulses, abstaining from his beloved wife for years. Eun-joo can keep throwing home-cooked meals and baby pictures at him and he’ll just zap them with his Laser Eyes of Angst. I’m more worried that Eun-joo will use Hye-ran’s half-truths as a wedge to pry our power couple apart. That black box chip recording of sekshi Kevin Lee times? A very strong wedge, that.

odilettante: That whole “Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door” thing was beyond cruel, especially if she knew that Hye-ran has PTSD from those events.

mary: That song thing was genius. I know I keep saying this, but Eun-joo is the perfect enemy for our girl. On the surface, she’s plain and innocent and has nothing to gain from bringing Hye-ran down, so no one questions her motives at all. She’s very shrewd too. Look at how she holds on to the chip until she figures out which will hurt Hye-ran more. I love a good enemy. *tips my hat to Eun-joo*

odilettante: To be fair, I don’t know if Eun-joo is aware that Hye-ran actually killed a man (or had a hand in killing a man), but based on the clues, she knows that Hye-ran hated that song. Which makes it interesting because she’s now the main suspect for Kevin’s murder. I’m still of the belief that Hye-ran didn’t kill Kevin, but I wonder if there will be some guilt from sending her high school boyfriend to jail for taking the blame for the murder she did commit.

mary: Look, guilt is not transferable! That logic leads to Noble Idiocy! She can make it up to Jail Oppa somehow without taking the blame for Kevin’s murder. That shocked and longing look she had when they were suddenly face to face has got to be enough proof that Hye-ran never forgot Jail Oppa’s sacrifice. Isn’t that why she’s working hard to reach the top? To make sure people like them don’t suffer injustices anymore? It’s just that it’s super hard to reach the top.

odilettante: Hye-ran’s rant about how she hasn’t been promoted despite all her male colleagues who easily move up ranks was excellent. She knows where that glass ceiling is, but she’s determined to break through, no matter what.

mary: She did break the ceiling for like, 10 seconds. But now she’s on a free fall because Ahn Nae-sang is a bad cop who arrests people based on circumstantial evidence and hearsay, and then teams up with prosecutors who have a grudge against his murder suspect just to get a warrant. As a viewer, it sucked all my enjoyment from that farewell party, because you just know they’re going to arrest her in front of the whole team.

odilettante: Oh yeah. But I’m also oddly excited because Tae-wook will have to step it up with his “defend my wife at all costs” code of honor, especially now that Hye-ran is close to losing everything she’s fought so hard for all her life. I can’t wait for them to break down the barriers of the past few years and grow closer as they fight side-by-side against the world.

mary: Are you sure he’s gonna help her? He saw the video! It’s so unfair that Eun-joo chose to destroy Hye-ran’s career and spare her marriage, but Tae-wook watches the video anyway. Now Hye-ran has nothing and no one, except Jail Oppa. Will it be enough? Should I get the Prison Fashion folder ready?

odilettante: Are pantsuits allowed in prison? Doesn’t matter. Hye-ran will make any outfit stunning. I mean, she even makes handcuffs look good.

mary: *whispers* You can collect pretty Tae-wook screenshots in the meantime. Here’s one with flowers, to thank the Misty beanies for the energetic discussion last week. ♥

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I'm so happy you guys are doing this discussion☺️☺️☺️

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I thin you are very kind with Hye-ran, you accept all the things she did but Eun-joo is a bad person ? It doesn't seem fair. If Eun-Joo is acting like that it's because Hye-ran was trying to make her leave Korea as quick as possible by manipulating her.

Hye Ran is against the persons who lies for their own interest but she did the same.

It was really sad when she said to her husband that she will say him the truth and she said that she didn't kill him, he was just like other person she interviewed before. She had the chance to say the truth but she lied...

All the characters took bad decisions and they have to assume them now.

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I like Eun-joo as the villain. Just like I like Hye-ran using dirty tactics to fight dirty people. They all fit together somehow. There's no imbalance (no one is handicapped in this fight) so you get tons of action from both sides.

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exactly! this drama is gripping... everyone is stellar.

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Oh, and regarding Hye-ran's hypocrisy, I also want to know what her limit is. She said that she blackmailed Jung Hyun-sung because he didn't deserve the position, so I wonder IF there was someone who actually deserved it, would she really have backed down?

Right now we can give her the benefit of the doubt because her rival IS corrupt (also in Ji-won's case, she really was incompetent.) But what happens if it's someone who's relatively better? Will she really give way like she says she will or will she invent another excuse to block them? I honestly can't tell.

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Nice! I was thinking the same!!

What kind of person would have been her perfect hoobae? What kind of rival would she really respect?

At the same time, I do think she truly respects her boss and the guy hoobae. I think its really telling how professional she is and how a ton of people working under her (not counting the jealous sunbaes) really like/at least respect her (like make-up artist girls, a lot of the staff). That's pretty impressive and telling: how those she works with most closely think of her.

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Same with you, I think how Hyeran got so much respect from her sunbae and her hobae, even Ji-won, after she sees Hye-ran trully motive againts she takes her anchor position, got so much loyalty from her jurnalist girl friend, and not mention her high school boyfriend who want to go to jail for her and even still wants to help her after he is out of jail. It is telling you something about Hyeran. Trust me you can lie so much about how kind you are, but you can't lie about passion, sincerity, and loyalty. What I like about Hyeran is even passionate about making enemy. Lol. She is not even bother to appear to be kind, says sorry when she doesn't mean to. That's what I call genuine, that is what honesty all about. I think Hyeran is like snake, she bites when people distrub her, and goes all out on that. She will just chill with her self if people just leave her alone. She is the one who says when is her time to quit, not other people.

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LOL that’s the first time I heard snake being used as a compliment but it matches her well.

I think she’s great at her job so even if co-workers hate her attitude, they can’t help but follow her lead at work. It would’ve been great if she mentored the young reporters though and broke the nasty cycle of juniors clawing at their sunbaes to get to the top. But, I mean, that’s not solely Hye-ran’s responsibility.

I just wish I could pierce her thoughts 100%. When she’s being evil I don’t think she’s completely being evil but when she’s being nice I also can’t believe she’s being nice for the sake of it.

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Odilettante I fully agree with your read on Hye Ran. Yes she has flaws but I think a lot of it is a natural reaction (not justification) to her childhood trauma, her loss of innocence then and losing her best friend Myung Woo

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I don’t think Eun Joo was ever innocent. I think she’s used to playing the victim. And Kevin’s sick of it as you can see his last few scenes with her.

For me the most telling line in episode 8 was when Eun Joo told Hye Ran — If I had a husband like Tae Wook I wouldn’t even think of taking a second look at someone like Lee Jae Young. That speaks volumes about her relationship with Jae Young. You think he couldn’t tell she looked down on him/always felt he wasn’t good enough?

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Hmm I don’t think she looked down on Kevin’s background. She came from a poor family too. I think she just said that cos she can’t fathom why Hye-ran is miserable with such a loving husband.

Eun-joo didn’t like Tae-wook for his political connections. She was swooning over how devoted Tae-wook was. Something Kevin was just faking with her.

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I don't think it's about rich or poor. Manners, class, the accoutrements of the upper class--Kevin is positively boorish to Eun Joo. Remember the scene at the hotel in Thailand when she was going on about awesome Tae Wook was? That's definitely not the first time she's put him down. And her constant nagging -
she definitely made Kevin feel like he wasn't "good enough".

I didn't get the miserable part. I think she thinks Hye Ran has everything, the perfect life with a perfect husband, so why would she want someone (who in her mind is a far poorer choice) like Lee Jae Young?

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I don't think she was praising Tae-wook as a dig at Kevin back in the hotel. It seemed to me like she was just impressed what a power couple Hye-ran and Tae-wook are (on the outside). But we'll see later on if she really meant something by it. I'm surprised how many beanies are starting to speculate that Eun-joo's nastiness goes waaaaaaaaay back into the past after this week's episodes. :O

By miserable, I meant Eun-joo was thinking how can Hye-ran be lonely enough to sleep with someone else's husband when she already has Tae-wook by her side.

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Kevin was an alley cat, a skirt chaser. Eun Joo was holding that 'happy marriage' together by sheer willpower. His going after Hye-ran was the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't think she's aware the two dated earlier, is she? All she knows is she met him on the rebound from a bad breakup. Would the prior relationship be considered a mitigating factor or be doubly-damning?

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Hye Ran showed a soft spot when she asked her hubby to help Eun-joo with her lawsuit...unless that's guilt in her eyes. Still a soft spot that I wish she didn't have at that moment.

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I didn't think that was a soft spot. It's just that she didn't have a choice. She can't show to her husband that she has a conflict with Eun Joo. It was to protect herself and to help Eun Joo.

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But her husband was already hesitant to do it. She didn't have to do anything but sit there while he makes his case for not taking it.

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I mean, everyone's horrible. It's why I had a problem with the show at first. But Hye Ran really nailed it for me this episode. I finally got where she's coming from. I finally got *her*. It made me empathise with her for the first time, right as Eun-joo was tumbling downhill.

I think the reason why people defend Hye-ran and criticise Eun-joo is that Eun-joo is just lashing out at Hye-ran because her real target - her husband - isn't there for her to do so. She already knew her marriage was a fake and her husband was dirt but he's gone so she's targeting Hye-ran instead.

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****whispers**** I think I like the back and forth discussion better than the recaps.

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I really, REALLY don’t like Ahn Nae Sang ahjussi and I usually do. Despite loving Hye ran (maybe not as much as Tae-wook) I’ve tried to be objective about every situation. Like, Eun Joo - I don’t hate her. In fact, I’m on her side.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Hye-ran and I want her crush it in every way possible but Unnie had it coming. This is not just about the sleeping with my husband thing. Eun Joo first went to Hye-ran when Han Ji Won told her Kevin Lee was having an affair with Hye-ran. Hye-ran, like the beautiful, lying two-faced snake she is, twisted the truth and made it out like she was absolutely innocent and Kevin Lee, the certified hot creep, was the only perpetrator.
Then Eun Joo finds the chip, and then realizes every effort Hye-ran has made to get Eun-Joo to leave the country was not for her own sake but for Hye-ran’s. THEN to add insult to injury, Tae Wook is RIDE OR DIE. Nah, Hye-ran had it coming.
So, yeah, I don’t hate Eun Joo, I’m with her on it. I was just worried about her game plan during that her ‘seduce Taewook’ phase.

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Oh, I remember this last week, some comments say Eun-joo was being too much. But I totally agree with you on what set her off on her revenge spree.

She gave Hye-ran a chance to come clean, but Hye-ran only told her part-truths to bolster her story. So she trusts her friend and follows her advice -- until she's confronted with physical evidence that's VERY contrary to the picture Hye-ran painted. Suddenly, everything Hye-ran said since that night at the cafe becomes malicious and demeaning. Hye-ran totally underestimated Eun-joo, now she's paying for it. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!

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Plus, I have a feeling that Eun-joo was probably always a little jealous of Hye-ran. She was showing off her sexy, successful husband hard when they first returned to Korea to the point I wondered if she knew about Kevin Lee and Hye-ran's past. But it appears she learned about that from the video, and it's another blow.

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I'm wondering if we're going to get some kind of flashback showing Eun-joo secretly obsessed with Hye-ran in high school, and she purposefully went after Kevin (before he was a pro golfer) since she knew Hye-ran was in love with him at one time, just so she could flaunt that she was married to him. Honestly I need more high school flashbacks because it's clear some serious stuff went down then. I mean Hye-ran was like "yeah, Eun-joo is an acquaintance from high school" when they were introduced at the airport, whereas Eun-joo is like "zomg you are my ONLY FRIEND in Korea!"

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O, again I agree with you! The dynamics of their friendship - Eun Joo the weak, helpless victim, Hye Ran the smart and brilliant friend, I think it's been like that since high school. And perhaps it's Eun Joo that's lying that they were good friends, because something happened after the murder that destroyed their friendship.

But according to the official Misty page, Kevin and Eun Joo met randomly when he walked into her restaurant and she wondered, who was this miserable guy?

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yes. I am willing to bet cold hard cash high school flashbacks will be important at some point. its TOO coincidental otherwise. and ALL of these characters have a high potential for long-term manipulation.

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my gawd that man is so dayum handsome...
*swoons*

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His Laser Eyes of Angst have already killed my poor heart!

Or that smile when Hye-ran said she wanted to hear his congratulations the most! Ahh, my heart...

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lol @ Laser Eyes of Angst

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Taewook is indeed so lovely. Hyeran really has great taste in men. Even Jail Oppa is not so bad.

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I'm still behind on the episodes -- I haven't watched 7 and 8 yet. I thought I could binge my way through by I'm having difficulty. It's a heavy show, like a rich feast, that I can only consume slowly. I'm not sure how to explain it. I really enjoy the show -- it's intricate, well-acted, etc. -- but it's unrelenting. I really regret not watching it from the first week it premiered because I'm not sure if I can catch up to the rest of you. Yikes. Am I the only one with this problem?

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It is a bit heavy on the heart. But, I watch it in between Waikiki hahaha

Maybe you can catch up in a week or two :) At least you won't be biting your nails waiting for the next episodes.

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Maybe I should follow your example and alternate it with something lighthearted. Mystery Queen starts up this week. But you're right, Misty is heavy on my poor, poor heart. Strangely, I'm tempted hide my face behind my fingers, except it's not a horror film ... or is it?!!

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Mystery Queeeeeeen please be as fun as S1, that's all we ask, Drama Gods!

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Yessss! Mystery Queen was honestly in my top 3 from last year. Cannot wait!!!!

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If you're not recapping it, maybe it can be an open thread like Misty? That is, if S2 isn't a dud. I say, watch the first two episodes and decide.

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Please drama god, let there be a love line between the 2 leads!😍
They are gonna be an awesome and fun crime -solving couple!

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That’s because it requires so much concentration. Blink and you’ll miss it! Every scene and every line has meaning.

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I never blink, and I still don’t understand 50% of the char’s motivations 😂 they’re just so layered that it drives you a bit crazy, suspecting everything.

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you know @sisyphus, I agree. it's heavy. lovely, but heavy. and having caught up with 6 episodes within the last 24hrs, I'm kinda wondering: should I wait until later for the rest? iss so much!
*dramaqueen flail*

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Still haven't watched this week's episodes (so busy 😢), and I'd kinda forgotten about this Open Thread thingy.... but this is giving me newfound motivation to finish all my other stuff and free up 2h for Misty!

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Watch it and drop by with your thoughts! I'm just starving for more Misty talk T___T

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I shall, I shall!
I haven't been active on any recaps since BTLIOF, and I miss the awesomeness of Beanies and just dissecting dramas.

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I’m not even watching this and am wildly entertained. I’m not much of a pantsuit person, but those coats! 😍

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She rocks the pantsuits. She’s gonna convert you into a pantsuit person!

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I'm also obsessed with Hyeran's red eye makeup.

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I love it when the characters have visual consistency in their outfits. Makes their character so much more meaningful and strengthens their presence onscreen as well.

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Eun joo has been one of my favorite drama "villains." Her use of the Dylan sin as psychological warfare was genius.

Also although I love and adore Hye Ran, any sadness or heartbreak she has coming. She should have told Tae-Wook what happened. The first time when they were in Thailand( or somewhere else), that was sexual assault. The second time was choice. She has hurt her husband enough. That being said I hope in the end she takes all her enemies down.

I also like the turnaround with Ji- Won, it was nice to show that women can get along too, just like the boys even if at first they hated each other.

I just love this drama!!!!

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*Dylan song

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I love Ji-won and Hye-ran's new relationship too. I just hope it's not as fragile/dependent on Hye-ran's need to stay as the anchor.

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I knoww! I really didn't like Ji-won at all earlier, but her earnest desire to please/get approval from Hye-ran kills me. You can have multiple motives, right Hye-ran? You meant it...right?

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I don't trust that they won't throw each other under the bus, but Ji-won showed this week that she has what it takes to be a good reporter, and I have hope that she will continue down that route (with a few bumps in the road; she did have an affair with Kevin Lee after all) and be a pursuer of the truth.

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I want Ji-won to become a mini Hye-ran and continue the legacy. But she first has to go through Hye-ran bootcamp.

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Where do I sign up for classes? Though I might drop out after finishing the Pantsuits Primer class.

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Your comments took the words out of my mouth!!

I really, really, really wish she had come clean on that sexual assault...

Oh Hye-rana--you had it sort of coming, but I want you to win so bad!! I didn't understand what other Beanies meant when they wrote stuff like this earlier...but after binge-watching I get it, I get this conflicted (dare I say, "Painful Love") love for her character!

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Mwahaha she’s definitely Captain of our Moral Dilemma ship *welcomes you aboard*

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Damn is Misty awesome! This drama wasn't even in my radar but it is love and I want to watch it forever! Also pantsuits for lifeee!!

Regarding Hye-ran arrest can I just say Ahn Nae-Sung sucks! I mean you arrest her just because Eun Joo said she THINKS she called that night?! I sort of think it could be past influence as well because he was on her harassment case before so. But I've realised its actually the elites now pulling the strings because she outed Hanil Steel so now Tae-Wook and Hye-ran are actually on their own! They got this!

Arghhh Tae-wook saw the video! I mean we all know he thought something happened but actually CONFIRMING now must be heart-breaking! But I know he loves Hye-ran so theyll sort it out right?! They have to theyre the power couple.

This show is awesome not much more needs to be said but Eun Joo can go back to the USA now - shes sly and honestly theres more than meets the eye with her!

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Re: Ahn Nae-sang, I don't remember hating him in other shows haha it's a new feeling in Misty. You're right though, I think it's more of the higher-ups pulling the strings now. Plus the biased prosecutor working on the case. Nae-sang's problem is he's fixated on Hye-ran as the suspect. But I'm holding on hope that if he'll find evidence to the contrary, he'll pursue that lead too. It's just annoying right now because he thinks he's being a righteous avenger when in truth, he's just a tool being used by selfish people at the top.

Re: Eunjoo, I wonder if Eun-joo killed Kevin for various reasons, but partially because she believed what Hye-ran said, and now she's extra pissed because Hye-ran lied to her. "I was gonna murder my husband and escape to the US but now you pissed me off so I'm gonna pin his murder on you too."

And re: Tae-wook watching naughty videos of Hye-ran: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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You put a finger on exactly what I didn't like: It's just annoying right now because he thinks he's being a righteous avenger when in truth, he's just a tool being used by selfish people at the top.

On top of that, does Nae-sang hate her so much that he can't wait until after she's had her champaign? I mean really, can't you arrest her like, 30 min later? What did she do to you?

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I also think part of his fixation with her is because he thinks of himself as the non-corruptible cop who chases after those in power, and Hye-ran ticks all the boxes: high-profile, has a powerful family, and backed by a powerful law firm. He's probably thinking "how dare these rich people party and have fun when they killed a poor guy and left his unborn child without a father?"

He reminds me of Eun-soo (Shin Hye-sun's character) in Forest of Secrets. Where, yes, the person she's chasing did some bad things, but her obsession with catching that person is eating into her impartiality. And she starts pinning all the bad things that are happening to that one person.

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Yeah, I agree with tour assessment about Ahn Nae Sang's characters. He really believes that he, a veteran police with years of experience, is an excellent police with excellent guts. And his guts says that Hyeran is the killer, so he run for it.

The scary part is, I think almost all the characters I saw in Misty believes they are the right one, thus the justification of their actions.

Hyeran of course the primary example. Eunjoo also the same. We may know Hyeran's motivation because we saw as audience, but Eunjoo didn't. What she knows is her friend cheats with her husbands and has the audacity to lie about the fact. Salt to injury, that friend has everything that she wants, loving husband. Hath no fury like a woman scorned, Eunjoo, if not in misty definitely is the lead of makjang drama.

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@yasminsatria "I think almost all the characters I saw in Misty believes they are the right one, thus the justification of their actions."

I love how you put it. :) That's why we're all being pulled this way and that with every reveal.

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my money is on Eun-joo for the murder. and, for what it's worth, i'm thinking that the black box chip shows something more than an affair (if even an affair. im undecided on that. i have a hard time believing HR lied when she told TW point blank that she hadnt slept with Kevin). but anyway, even if there was an affair, i don't think Eun-joo ever liked HR enough to be more bothered by that affair than, say, the Ji-won affair. I think the video has something else more damning or shocking or something. I think something happened way back when, and Eun-joo has set a lot of tiny gears in motion to either get revenge on HR or Kevin. I wonder if she was somehow connected to the person who was murdered in high school...like, how does she know about the Dylan song anyway? HR called her up and said, "hey i just saw someone killed and this song was playing?"

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Good points!! It's been really bothering me why Eun Joo acts as if she's so hurt: like HR is her sister who slept with her husband or something, not a friend she lost contact with for like 15 years (even if they were super close in high school)...

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I don't really even think they could've been that close, to begin with. Eun Joo seems a little sociopathic to me in that she says conflicting things to TW while in the car with him, but is happy to smile at Hye Ran's face and praise her for what a success she's become. It kinda feels like she spent her high school career chasing after Hye Ran, who was popular and couldn't care less about their so-called friendship. You don't find it fishy that she was all smiley and things when they met at the airport, but as soon as she finds out about the affair, she starts blurting things about Hye Ran's past? She's resented Hye Ran for much longer than she's letting on. Might have been her motive for going after Kevin and marrying him after Hye Ran had broken up with him

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I'll bet the murderer comes entirely out of left field. Something weird, like that young editor who seem to have a workplace crush on HR or that guy (producer?) who was pushing to have his protege replace HR on the news.

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Laser Eyes of Angst: best name evaarrrr!! I knew uri Tae-wook was a super hero somehow!!

I am of the personal opinion that this pair of episodes highlighted more clearly why in the Misty-world-verse, Hey-ran is flawed, but not cruel and how truly different (in a cool and badass way) she is from all of those around her. At first I was skeptical when she brought her rival in the Blue House down, but then she didn't let me down when she explained that she brought the dude down because he didn't deserve it not because she thought she had a shot left--pure awesome.

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I'm trying to remember the last drama where we were in the POV of a selfish narcissist. Was it Miss Ripley? I am not going to differentiate between personal pride and humble pride. Because wow, Hye Ran is so narcissistic. And she has all these enablers around who are loving her. She is that charismatic? Or is it some kind of phermones only beautiful driven women give off? If she ends up loving her husband simply because he loves her, then she's still selfish. And wow, my head is spinning because of having to differentiate between her need to tell the truth (as a journalist) and her need to not tell the truth (as a regular person.) This is the kind of drama where I'll get annoyed if anyone starts defending her as a strong powerful driven woman character.

Hye Ran is definitely larger than life. Her redemption arc better be believable.

I suspect she was wounded because we are trained to believe people are selfish only if they are wounded. I myself have been wounded in life but this degree of cruelty and selfishness is not something most wounded people do. And most wounded people are not so charismatically powerful or scheming or selfish to damage so many people, esp someone who was a best friend. So while her past may explain her actions, no present evil cam forgiven because of past wounds.

The men who love Hye Ran always sacrifice for her. As Eun Joo says, beautiful and smart women get away with a lot. I wonder about the husband's personality that he could be so devoted to someone who has never said she loved him. What's his backstory? She will love him in the end because he loves her. That would still be all about her. He will have done everything for her as other men have. So of course she will fall in love with him at last. I want to see her do something for someone else. I want to see her consciously lose for his sake.

Other than that, I am on Eun Joo's side in this. We all have revenge fantasies but Eunjoo is like the rest of us. Even if we try to be avengers, we can't take it to the extreme end. This is how one separates the human from the lmonsters. E

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Very intersting perspective!

I feel like I am like all of Hye-ran's lovers: I still love her even though I know she's bad ahhh.

Though seriously, she has, so far, defined the lives of 3 men that loved her. That's crazy

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Don't you just wish she'd get pregnant and not have the heart to abort her baby again? That'll slow her down. At least a baby for TW's sake. Poor guy

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Wow! I agree with you on so many levels. I mean we have all seen how selfish, cunning and scheming Hyeran can be. She is even unprincipled in all her 'principality'(Yes, you're allowed to roll your eyes at that word but you get what I mean)

But why do we still love her? Is it really a kind of pheromones?

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I do find her super charismatic and I'm not a guy haha. She is ruthless and selfish but in that cut-throat environment being an angel isn't gonna get you anywhere. Even if she uses underhanded methods to get ahead, her rivals are thoughtless/careless enough to have committed errors in the first place. I mean, car sex with the hottest celebrity of the day?
Not the best judgment. Nothing remains a secret forever (including Hyeran's own wrongdoings) so everyone in this drama is lying in the bed that they made. Eun Joo knows very well her husband is a cheating liar (as made clear by her conversation with Jiwon at the coffee shop) but chooses to stay with him all these years.

Like you I also want to see Hyeran choosing to sacrifice something dear to her for Taewook and I think the drama will likely head in that direction.

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Lets recall the first episode. EVERY reporter/news reader had an agenda, EVERYONE was hungry for advancement. The women especially because opportunities drop off so sharply the higher women get in the organization (explicitly stated in these two episodes). Hye Ran isn't a shark swimming among guppies, she's a shark among sharks. She works in a business where door mats get trod on.

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I swear in episode 7 I forgot (momentarilly) about Tae-wook and shipped Hye-ran with Jail Oppa, guy is just so devoted and loyal to her.😍 I love Hye-ran and I root for her character but I understand Eun-joo too and what she’s doing, and I think she really considered Hye-ran her friend prior to her husband’s death.

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Oooh that moment when he dropped off the chip. That scene was so LOADED with feelings. I can’t wait until they actually meet in a place with no spies so they can talk freely and just check on each other huhuhuhu

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I like the conversation more than the weecap. Keep it up DB team!

I was really pissed by the way that detective arrested HR. He's very keen on sending her to jail. I'm waiting for that backstory of his especially after that flashback.

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Yes, that brief flasback. I’m not sure if he was in-charge of Myung-woo’s case but I think he knows about Hye-ran’s past and her involvement in that case which is why he’s fixated on the idea of her being Kevin’s murderer.

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Ohh! That makes a lot of sense!

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He was just silent when his hoobae asked him why he’s sure HR killed KL so I think there’s something we are not told yet.

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right?!?! something is up with him. he's TOO eager to pin it on her.

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So glad to have another place to discuss Misty!!! Friday is a long time away! Lol. Another long time beanie here (>10 years and counting) who’s finally signed up for an account just to discuss this show.

I’m totally with Hye Ran. 101%. It’s so rare to find such strong, ambitious female characters in K drama who can give it as good as she gets. She really doesn’t give a F about anyone but that’s because she knows that’s what it takes to get to the top and that’s what she needs to achieve her aims. And she hasn’t wavered at all from those principles: uncovering the truth and taking down who abuse their power. That’s exactly what draws people around her to her: her conviction, her professionalism, despite of, in spite of her flaws.

Jeon Hye Jin is just killing it in the show! Her Eun Joo made my skin crawl especially whenever that song played! As I said elsewhere who knew Lee Seon Gyun (also one of my favorite actors) was hiding such a gem at home all these years!

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True! I even dig up an ooooold article here in db when Lee Seon Kyun announced his marriage to his sweetheart. I remember thinking 'who is this lucky girl??' who can wake up to his hot voice every morning! And she never appeared in any dramas that I'd watch so my interest was piqued. Turned out she's the lucky girl. And super talented too. I hate her Eun Joo character. Only because I'm on team Hye Ran all the way.

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Haha I had the exact same thoughts! I even remember looking at their wedding pics and thinking oh, nice and kind looking lady lol....yes, his voice is a dream -swoon-

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I can relate to the unapologetic attitude Hye-ran held in front of Eun Joo. I believe Hye-ran's words when she said to Eun Joo that what she did with Kevin in the car was to appease him. Previously, She characterized those steaming pictures as "sexual assault" from Kevin. The black-box images showed she wiped her mouth with shame after her kissing with Kevin in the car. All of the above scenes make out a logical line: she did not like Kevin's aggression, but with those incriminating photos, she had to face Kevin in a way that could "appease" him for a moment. Facing Eun-joo, she knew she could not explain it clearly and asked her to wait until the whole mess settled. I am rooting for Hye-ran. To reach her mighty goal, she said that she could "sell her soul". Faking kisses should be one of her dirty means......

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I also understand why she refused to apologize and so indirectly confirm Eunjoo’s slightly incorrect suspicions. Eun-joo is just in too much pain to notice those small details that will prove Hye-ran’s real story. Right now the bigger picture is her husband died and her bestfriend was the last woman he was with.

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I suspect that Eun Joo might not know fore sure the last person who called Kevin was Hye-ran. Why she made up this point to incriminate Hye-ran, rather than giving the black-box chip to the detective, is something intriguing.

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Could it be... if she reveals the affair, she'll also stand to lose something (the 3x contract breach fee with Hwanil Steel?)

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Good point! What she did after much deliberation has two effects: one is to alienate Tae-wook from Hyde-ran, the other is to make Hye-ran a murder suspect even though she has the evidence showing otherwise. Eun Joo is not innocent as her initial image........

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Black box could not prove Hye Ran's innocence as it was already in Kevin's pocket when he ran out to his death after receiving that call. Hye Ran did not know that the chip was stolen then. She thought it was stolen after Kevin was killed.

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Yes he's inlove with here and i think the feeling is mutual. I guess he refused the visits because like the prison guard said, maybe he wouldn't want someone he likes see him in that state.

I have this notion before that he's creating "issues" just to stay in jail. And i believe that he finally went out because HR was suspected of murdering KL and he really wants to help her.

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Y’know after episode 6 I wouldn’t be sure why he rejected her visits. It’s possible he sacrificed himself but at the same time is aware that his life was destroyed so he just wants to cut ties and forget everything. But after what he did this week I’m 100% sure he’s still fully devoted to Hye-ran and he was rejecting the visits so they can cut ties (cos he’s a noble idiot who thinks Hye-ran’s life will be wasted if half of the time she’s taking care of him in prison.)

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Talking about the Jail Oppa, there is a kind of loop hole in the casting. In the younger version, the Jail Oppa was way a head above Hye Ran. At this age, any height growth would have stopped already. Yet in the adult versions, both Jail Oppa and Hye Ran is almost the same height albeit Hye Ran wearing the high heel.

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I was thinking about the exact same thing hahaha

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Prison really shrinks a man.

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I think jail oppa would have stayed out of HR's life entirely were it not for the alarming news reports about her just before he got out of prison. The reasoning was probably "I didn't sacrifice 25 years of my life just to see her rot in prison anyway."

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Did the husband take away the chip? since Eunjoo didnt notice any different?

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I don’t know! But I’m sure Eun-joo has a copy, if ever.

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I’m still windering how did the chip ended up in Kevin Lee’s coat.

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i am wondering about this too. there is one BRIEF TINY second at the end of the clip (seen when TW is watching) that looked like it showed HR walking off and Kevin opening her driver's door. Does he take it then?

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is he planning to blackmail her even further?

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When they were together or when HR meet up with Eun-joo? I wonder if he followed her that night and took the chip when HR entered the cafe? It’s the only explanation I could think of as to why he had the chip because HR was with EJ the whole time after her meeting with Kevin, and he already had the chip when he went home 10 minutes after HR dropped EJ. If the caller was HR and he’s planning to blackmail her using the chip then he wouldn’t have left the chip behind.

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the moment im talking about is (I think) after their adventures in the car/parking lot. But I'm interested in what you're saying. My memory of the timeline of events is muddle now-- are you saying when she went to meet EJ at the cafe, maybe Kevin followed HR and got it then? (I'm not convinced the caller was HR, but if so, you're right--why leave it behind.)

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I rewatched that scene and no, what Taewook saw (on the laptop) was the scene before the car/kissing scene. He’s probably surprised because she called him by his real name Lee Jae-hyung and not Kevin Lee.
Yes, HR received a call from EJ after that car scene with Kevin and I think he’s following her after she left him.

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@giegie Ah, ok! Thanks for clearing that up :) My brain is (dare I say it) MISTY when it comes to ordering it all. but him following her is VERY interesting to me now. Will be watching with this in mind.

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I'm conflicted, as a feminist and Kim Nam Joo fan, I want her to beat all her enemies. But I'm still hesitant to support a character who (this is still unconfirmed) sent one former lover to jail, fooled another (albeit he was blackmailing her) with seduction (kisses etc)and has betrayed her husband (think KL as the physical and MW/Jail Oppa as the emotional, plus the abortion) as an example of fighting the good fight. And all that becasue I think/hope/feel she is capable of so much more and on less shaky ground. I'm just afraid that though she might win the (legal) battle, she might lose the war, because she's already so compromised.

Hmm, I do wonder if they make orange (sorry, wrong country)/ bluish gray (c'mon, memory of Korean jail wear from various TV dramas is not exactly something I keep in mind LOL) pantsuits in HR's style - Yikes!

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Well, I understand you, but I think this is what makes watching Misty so fun. Go Hye Ran is imperfect, she has very nice traits and others not so nice. I root for her because she is so unapologetically ambitious and so determined to win her fights and never backs off. That's a woman that I would admire and somehow I would like to be, hehe!! She does other things I cannot agree with, but also when I see her motivations I cannot hate her, she seems not evil but rather lost in her blind determination to achieve her goals. And I believe she seeks some kind of justice though becoming a powerful person that can help those in need. But she has gone too far in certain aspects.
By the way, although I don't agree with how she is handling things, I don't think that being reminded of your first love is the same as cheating on your husband. And the kiss with Kevin, since she was being blackmailed and we have seen that she genuinely cares about Tae Wook, I cannot put all the blame on her or label that as cheating either. I don't know, maybe it is also because I ship this couple and want them to end together, I hope they find a way to make it work :)

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@Yuki Agree on the conflict. I'm not so sure about her caring very much about TW. Her motive for marrying him already throws a bit of shade on that, the abortion (presumably a huge contributory factor to why TW has not been able to be intimate with her for such a long time) throws further shade on that. Why I say she's cheating emotionally in terms of first love: that look of longing - guilt I can understand, but longing? If she has any loyalty, rather than just obligation to TW, why longing?

As for Kevin, apparently the blackmail was the result of him ensuring his assistant captured a set up but she kissed him back voluntarily in Bangkok (?).
I want so much to believe that Hyeran is capable of so much more and that is why I'm so conflicted about her. The greater the expectation, the greater the disappointment. Sighz.

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Poor Tae Wook - Usually I dislike stoic, long suffering, perfect guys like him but how can I resist that face and body!
I think he was more hurt by Hye Ran telling Kevin that she needed him(Tae Wook) more than love than by the kiss. Okay, probably both.

Jail Oppa - when he dragged that chair on his way to interrogate Kevin's manager, I half-expected him to leap on top of the seat and belt out a song. Has anyone heard this actor sing? Man!
I don't think teen Hye Ran killed her rapist. If I'm not mistaken, there was no blood on her shirt but there were on Oppa's.

Ahn Nae Sang - I remember a time when I hated him more than this. It was his role in Rebel: Thief Who Stole The People.

Eun Joo - Brilliantly acted. I have mix emotions with regards to this character but mostly deep annoyance, ire and worse. I can reason her behavior, feeling betrayed and all but I'm sure there is more which we do not know and will make her out to be more despicable.
I have a hunch that she knew Kevin and Hye Ran's past and she's somehow involved in Hye Ran being sexually assaulted - maybe she was a witness but did not come forward?

Hye Ran - I actually like that she's flawed. I'm not saying she is right in everything. I still cannot forget how she seemingly aborted her baby because of the promotion. People tell half-truths all the time and not always with selfish or bad intentions. This just shows how it can come back and bite you when it's too late.

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Where can I watch Prison Oppa singing? With that body and look of his, with a voice to boot, i might have a new actor to add up to my looong list of favourite oppa. Haahha

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There's a lot of stuff out there if you search 임태경 on youtube.

But drama fans might enjoy his OST covers:

"My Destiny" (from You From Another Star)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy4WSfVNc4Q

"That Man, That Woman" (from Secret Garden)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF5CNvkmEpE

He's also done a lot of stuff on Immortal Songs 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNUGswxVZf0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQocxgbyndU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMh0JKjOgrw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7zc0q2zZwU

I'm just barely scratching the surface, tbh. There's loads and loads of stuff out there. Happy listening!

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WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY JAIL OPPA GOODIES

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In just a matter of days I've become Jail Oppa's #1 fan. I always seem to fall for the musical boys.

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Jail Oppa sings too???? Okay, I am fan!

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Oh, his real name is Im Tae Kyung.. Hmm, no wonder it seems like I'd seen him somewhere but can't place where I'd seen him. I must have swoon over him once or twice in Immortal Songs. He looks a lot like Im Chang Jung. I'm gonna have to do some fangirl thing (read : stalking the net)
thanks for the links~

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Totally agree with you on Eun Joo, I understand her behaviour and motives but there is something SO off about her, something really dark and dangerous and totally directed to Hye Ran now.
It is weird I cant really explain why but her character scares me the most..

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I think what's even more scary is that it seems like she's finally unleashing all of that pent up anger and betrayal from 10 years of a difficult marriages with Kevin Lee...

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yes yes yes. i agree so much. there is something shaaaaady going on with her. something is pent up and has been FOR TOO LONG.

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So.. I know this is weird but why do I feel like the killer is Tae-Wook and this is his plan to get his wife to depend on him, rekindle their love, and save their marriage by pointing her as the prime suspect of Kevin's murder. Although, I don't think he knew about all the other guys who want to bury Hye-Ran and her past which includes Prison oppa who is now working for him.

And yes, Ahn Nae-Sang gets on my nerves every time he appears on screen.

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OOOOOOh that would be an excellent plot twist!!!

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It sounded like makjang though XD

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A well-made makjang is welcome anytime. I also think it might be Tae Wook. Because he was there. Because that jerk kissed his wife for starters (then reciprocated, with painful look in her eyes). He might even took EunJoo to obgyn because he was partly feel guilty for the unborn child.

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I don't think its Tae-wook. At least I hope so. Because otherwise that would just be totally out of character for someone as righteous as him to go there. Also, it seemed like he really didn't know that Kevin and Hye-ran were intimate, though he suspected it, and the only time he really for confirmation for his suspicions was after watching the video.

In any case, if we are to have a happily ever after for Hye-ran and Tae-wook, then he cannot be the murderer. I suspect Hye-ran likes that he's is this morally upright, incorruptible guy. And taking that away from him would just make him a lying snake and murderer. Something that I cannot imagine Hye-ran would ever condone regardless of the reasons behind it.

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i agree. i think the show needs Tae-Wook to remain as upright as possible. It's that uprightness that makes his role so hard---having to grovel to the Gold Door people, going back to Kang Yool, etc,--- all things he doesnt believe in (but that arent morally WRONG per se) to try and compromise as best as he can to help Hye Ran. A less upright person would have less of a struggle.

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It just crossed my mind that maybe...MAYBE...Tae Wook killed Kevin Lee. He will certainly defend her wife, I have no doubt on that. His trump card after all the messy and chaotic trials would be admitting that he killed that jerk and shoved that wedgy car cam video as reason of murder.

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But then there won't be a happy ending for our power couple of one of them is serving time in jail..still praying that neither of them on team Hye Ran is the killer. Pleasssseee😓😓
I hope that Eun Joo turns out to be the killer so that i wont feel bad on hating her.

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Haven't watched the 8th episode, although i'm dying to. Just skimming through the episode and my heart breaks knowing that TW heard HR said the she only 'needs him'. He should have heard the previous monologue when she said he's the only one who accept her as she is. I love that Prison Oppa is on her side. Such a strong devotion on his side.
Had been filling time marathoning Prison Playbook and my life is ruined. Everything else is on hold till I'm done with this gem. Started watching that drama because i need distraction to help keep me from waiting for new Misty episodes, but ended up being sucked into the drama. 😣

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Prison Playbook... it’s not a bad drama to ne distracted with. Hye-ran will understand.

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I posted this elsewhere as well, but if you go by what Kevin Lee said in his last phone call, he speaks in a mix of banmal and jondaemal. So it can't be his manager (they speak 100% banmal), probably not Taewook (he would be more formal), not Hanil Steel...who else could it be? He speaks to Hye Ran in banmal when they're alone but jondaemal when they're with other people. But they're actually pretty rude when they speak to each other. He'd answer more with "What's up" than a "It's me." So...judging from the phone call alone, it sounds like Han Ji Won!

But...unlike Eun Joo, I don't necessarily think the last person who called is the killer...so who could it be?? Why is Friday so far away??

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They already took a hit in publicity because of Hye-ran’s feature news on Kam’s case. Maybe they want to cover their tiny scandal with even a bigger scandal. Bonus points if they get oodles of cash from it.

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Mmmm, that would be an interesting twist and in line with what we have seen so far from the characters. All of them are quite grey and flawed, but they do not strike me as killers. I thought all this time that Kevin's death was an unfortunate accident that will be the trigger for all the conflicts between the characters and the big obstacle for Go Hye Ran to achieve her goals.

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I kinda agree with your Hwanil Steel theory. But i'm still curious how did HR's brooch ended up in the crime scene. So, still, my money's on Taewook, HR and Eunjoo (being she's the last person with HR with the brooch still pinned on her )..

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Maybe Eun-joo had the brooch (whether she grabbed it or she just picked it up) and Kevin saw it during their fight at home and picked it up to return it. Then the accident happened?

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Another theory: HR dropped it at the coffee shop. Ji Won returned and found it. Met with KL, gave it to KL. Or JW's with him during the accident and dropped it. Then left KL dying.

LOL. So many theories.

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I could see this happening. Hwanil Steel + the Gold Door Clubbies somehow. I think there's more to that dynamic than we really know. It's a bit too coincidental that all these cases revolve about Hwanil (esp the Kam case, which seems SOOOO out of place still)

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Loving this show, (plus Mother , two awesome shows at the same time to squee about!). A big thank you to the writer, Je-in. I see this show is their debut ( ?), drama. Wah! A jackpot on the first go.

I look forward to learning more about jail oppa & Hye-ran’s past. Our homicide detective is premature with his arrest, imho. He’s going to feel the heat from Tae-wook’s heavyweight law firm. Eun-joo, were you ever Hye-ran’s friend? I can understand Eun-joo’s hurt regarding Kevin/Hye-ran’s affair, but she knew her husband was a player, and it looks like Hye-ran had first dibs on him first back in the day, (waiting for more back story on the Eun-joo,Hye-ran, & Jail Oppa’s teen years).
I like how Tae-wook is using the clout of the law firm, hiring jail oppa as his minion, doing things that upright Tae -wook knows is not above board. Wait until Tae-wook finds out that Jail Oppa and Hye-ran share a deep dark secret! Whew, that’s some 6 degrees of Hye-ran she has going on there. Hye-ran is interesting, she has her haters, yet we see so many that are willing to stick their necks out for her. The characters in this show are so juicy, but not makjang. I enjoy howLee Kyoung-Young, (Ch. 9 News Boss), is torn as to what to do with Hye-ran. At times he needs her, trusts her, backs her. Other times he sees her as a poison pill that will be the ruin of him. The show keeps me on the edge of my seat, the way dramas should. A+

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Why does Tae Wook cry so well!!! Yeah, it hurts. IT HURTS!

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Because he's Ji Jin Hee. Hahaha.

Kidding aside. I fell in love with him on Jewel in the Palace because he have this really expressive eyes. You can just watch his eyes and you'll know what is his current emotion.

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Jewel in the Palace...now I need to add to my Watch list. It's nice to find a good looking, older actor/actress who can emote so well without going over the top. Between Misty and Mother, I've found new appreciation for a new-to-me set of actors.

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He does everything well. Hahaha

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Just standing there he does it well. That man is so handsome and his face is so expressive without changing much. What more can I say - I just like looking at him.

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So I just started on Misty after reading so many positive comments here on DB. I can’t chime in on recent developments as I’m still on ep. 4, but damn, I’m liking this show a lot. In a way I’m getting a bit of I Have A Lover feels from this (maybe mostly due to Ji Jin Hee and his trademark sad, brooding eyes) except Hye Ran is like Do Hae Kang on steroids, LOL! I love her character despite her obvious flaws and can’t help but root for her. At the same time I’m holding my breath waiting for all hell to break loose.

Also, girl WERKS all those coats and pantsuits!

The only thing that I don’t like is that I started this way too early. I don’t want to have to wait week after week for new episodes to come out.

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I finally caught up with this!

We see Eun-joo now embarking on her revenge trip against Hye-ran, but what we need to see is backstory on those previously mentioned high school years because I think that's really when her jealousy/envy against Hye-ran really began ..... and maybe when she started to make a plan against her.

The same goes for Jail Oppa. While we can now place him at an incident during the high school years, we don't really know the extent of his relationship with Hye-ran, other than being a boyfriend or long-time admirer of hers. We need more info. In addition, what, if any, is his relationship with Eun-joo? Did he know her in school? ..... Also, I found it odd that he was released at nighttime. Was he really released because his sentence ended or because someone made that release possible based on his agreement to fulfill certain conditions?

I've also found interesting how Eager Cop is willing to arrest Hye-ran based on Eun-joo's declaration that it may have been Hye-ran who called him. You'd assume he'd check Kevin Lee's call logs from that night before proceeding, just like he checked the home surveillance video from the night Lee died .... but no, there's been no mention that Eager Cop has done this.

Speaking of the home surveillance video, has Eager Cop checked that the actual video he saw wasn't altered? Again, apparently no. He just took it at face value and proceeded.

The Golden Door people certainly have a hand in more than just cocktail parties. Even before knowing this I had previously mentioned that I would include Hye-ran's father-in-law in the list of suspects in Kevin Lee's death. I still include him in that list because I think he knows more than we're being led to believe thus far.

Great show which keeps you riveted and analyzing! I love it and love that all of you are keeping the discussion interesting! On to the next episodes!

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I'm not sure if Jail Oppa was released at night or very early morning? But in Smart Prison Living, some inmates were released at odd hours (usually early morning) and one of them was released very late at night. That doesn't really mean that's what happens in real life, but in dramaland, it DOES happen a lot!

And, reading your comment, I'm suddenly remembering how Eager Cop/Ahn Nae-sang keeps saying things are getting "interesting" and he's taking note of Eun-joo's tics too. I wonder if he's going along with the Hye-ran route also to put Eun-joo at ease so he can investigate her on the sly?

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How I wish Eager Cop is smart like this! However, I doubt it.

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You're right, it's dramaland ..... odd-hour prison releases shouldn't be, well, odd. Heh!

Regarding Eager Cop, as much as we kind of want him and his arrest warrants 100 miles away from Hye-ran, he has been asking the right questions since Lee's case started. He's questioned whether the death was really an accident, he's questioned how the brooch ended up in Lee's car, he's curious about the extent of Hye-ran and Eun-joo's relationship, and he's asked about Hye-ran's car black box chip. ..... I just wish he'd also investigate other relevant matters such as Lee's car black box chip/navigation system, his phone logs, other acquaintances besides his manager, business dealings if any and the same thing for his wife, among some other things I'd wish he'd do. But who knows, perhaps he and his assistant are investigating these and other things and it's just that we're not shown this, because as you mentioned, he does seem to make mental notes when speaking with Eun-joo and others.

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I just finished episode 8 before coming here as I didn't want any spoilers. Everyone's comments and theories are so interesting. I will admit that I really like badass Go Hye Ran - so much that the other day at work when I was taking my walk, I imagined walking as straight and strong as her because her posture is so ramrod straight!

The acting is top notch, but the editing is something else. When they were showing the scene of the Hye Ran and Eun Joo talking in the conference room and we knew Tae Wan was watching that video I was so tense! Part of me just wanted to stop the video because I didn't want to see his pain.
Now that is good writing and laying out the mood.
I agree about the pantsuits - but I especially love those coats too!
Now off to episode 9.

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This is such a tightly woven drama that it makes the waiting for the next 2 episodes really excruciating.
We are more than half-way through but there are still many clues to unravel.
Great acting, too not just by Kim Nam-joo and Jee Jin-hee but Jeon Hye-jin as well as the other supporting cast.

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I've finally caught up with these episodes... and I can't help but comment on it, bc I totally agree with @mary. I love a good enemy.

My problem with a lot of dramas is that more often than not, "evil" characters are never as well-developed as the morally good ones. They're just assigned the label of evil with the FEEBLEST of motives.

But in the case of Eun-joo, as despicable as she is for a human being (wanting to put others down just because they're doing great when you are not...) she makes for a good villain.
Above anything else, I think the person she is most mad at is herself. For having put up with Kevin Lee for so long despite his cheating ways... only for him to take the easy way out; albeit through being murdered. On top of all that, I think she also has somewhat of an inferiority complex, and it doesn't help that the person she's comparing herself to is Hye-ran who never lets anyone step on her.

I actually do wonder if she really loved Kevin, bc it seems to me that in the end, she cared more about the appearance of a happy marriage and the prestige of being married to him than an actual good relationship.

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What a mesmerizing drama!! Just finished watching all 10 episodes.

Does anyone know the previous works of the scriptwriter or is he/she a newbie (like that of Forest of Secrets)?

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Folks, here’s a link to a talk given by Mr. James Duane, a law professor at Regent Law School and a former defense attorney, who tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
Enjoy.

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Lets not just assume the Eun Joo was naive, to begin with. She was well aware of her husband's affairs, as she pointed out to Han Ji Won when they met. But if you put the circumstances of her situation into account, it's not far-fetched for her to want to blame it all on Hye Ran. Everything that made up her life was taken away in the blink of an eye, and the one person she trusted when she arrived is the same person that caused all the mishaps (by her understanding) in her life. I would want to take revenge too. And that kind of proof falling straight in her lap? Who orchestrated that? There is someone else at play here... unless it was the manager?...

And how stupid is the detective to not see that no one can be arrested without proper due process? Was he just too desperate to pin Go ye Ran down for the crime that he forgot to follow procedure? No, he is just blinded by his wanting the culprit to be her. So much for instinct. Because he is wrong, she didn't kill him. He's fixating, which is more worrying, because he'll dig into her past, and things that were supposed to have been buried are going to come to light. I wonder how all of that is going to play out for Tae Wook.

The poor man, I wonder when his unrelenting love and devotion will take a knock. Maybe around the time he realises that the guy he hired as a shadow showed up intentionally to be closer to Hye Ran.

I wonder how Kang Tae Wook was able to be in a marriage with someone for so long and not ask any questions about her past. I mean, come on! If you love her then you'll want to find out about her. Its a little far-fetched to believe he knows absolutely nothing about her past

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