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You Who Forgot Poetry: Episodes 13-14

With so few episodes remaining, I don’t think I want the wind to change. But I do want our characters to go away with some real growth for their pains these last weeks.

As our time runs ever shorter, I wonder if one Shin Min-ho will decide what kind of person he wants to be for keeps. He’s certainly not the only one with growing to do, but when you have the emotional maturity of a peanut, at least the only way is up… right?

 
EPISODES 13-14 WEECAP

Bo-young gets complimented and encouraged by her hero, CHIEF SURGEON KIM (Kim Won-hae). He’s shown to be someone who always has time for others, sacrificing his own wellbeing. he suffers from a sudden stroke, which particularly saddens Bo-young and Jae-wook, who also has a warm relationship with him.

Seeing how sad Bo-young is, Min-ho delays his confession again. He ends up taking Nam-woo to the confession buffet instead, practising his lines on him. (Min-ho: “I really like you, will you accept my feelings?” Nam-woo: “But I don’t want to!”)

After some weeks, Chief Kim improves enough to go down to the physio department for treatment, but the notice of the other patients—who know him well as a doctor—sends him straight back to his bed. Once he’s alone, he crumbles into heartbroken sobs. Overhearing, Bo-young grows even sadder.

Bo-young and Jae-wook have still been meeting quietly. They’re meant to have their first real date that night, but Jae-wook postpones. Not in the mood to see a musical on her own, she gives the tickets to Min-ho.

Nam-woo ends up being his date again. Still down after his bad news, Nam-woo tells Min-ho that he ought to prepare for the worst, because life’s a jerk like that. And if you thought things just couldn’t get any worse… Joo-yong calls up to say that his alligator shirt has disappeared. Say it isn’t sooo!

Bo-young returns to the hospital to see Chief Kim again, but to her surprise, Jae-wook is already in his room, treating him privately. Staying out of sight, she leaves quietly.

He meets Bo-young afterwards and takes her home. They share a parting embrace, and it’s none other than Min-ho who happens to spy them.

After Jae-wook leaves, he asks if she’s dating him, which she happily admits once she realizes he saw them together. Furious and upset, he yells at her. Hey man, your feelings aren’t her fault.

His bad temper continues as the team goes on a weekend MT, and he keeps inserting himself between the couple.

They go quad-biking, and Min-ho forces Bo-young to ride with him. He storms down the trail with Jae-wook close behind, ignoring Bo-young’s pleas to slow down. He’s equally aggressive in a game of dodgeball later, pounding the ball at Jae-wook, who pounds it back.

Meanwhile, Nam-woo’s spirits are still rock-bottom. When the others try to cheer him up, his only response is a listless, “What meaning does it have?”

When Shi-won gets the unexpected bad news that his rent has shot up, it’s such a blow that he goes as numb as Nam-woo. The two of them lurch through the day, questioning the meaning of it all. Aw. They are so pathetic and lovable.

In the radiology department, a patient Dae-bang was close to dies and Joo-yong has to break the news to him. Dae-bang insists that he’s fine and carries on with his day, telling Joo-yong that they see countless patients and they can’t cry over each one.

But when he goes home that night, he thinks back to his first patient death. He had made a mistake and truthfully admitted it to her. She was a former radiologist herself and appreciated his honesty so much that she wrote him a compliment card, which he cherished.

When he went to visit her again, she passed away right in front of him, and he was so shaken that he couldn’t treat his next patient properly. His senior took him to task for it, pointing out that his feelings has interfered with the care of his other patients.

Back on the MT, Bo-young confronts Min-ho about his behavior, and he tells her that he’s mad at her for wasting his time on comforting her, when she went to Jae-wook anyway.

But then he whacks her with the car door and knocks her down. Wow, okay Min-ho. Don’t be an asshole because your feelings got hurt, she doesn’t owe you anything. Far from being sorry, he tells her it’s her own fault.

Jae-wook catches the tail-end of the encounter and privately tells Min-ho to show some respect to Bo-young as his senior, but Min-ho reveals that he likes her and has no intention of seeing her with Jae-wook.

That evening, Nam-woo gets a supportive message from his mother, while Shi-won’s mom sends him a video of his twins, reminding them both what exactly is the meaning of it all. They’re suddenly galvanized and hug each other hopefully.

But soon after, Shi-won’s wife calls and tells him she’s been fired. Oh no.

Meanwhile, Bo-young and Jae-wook snatch a few private moments. She’s thrilled when he gifts her with a bracelet he’d seen her admire, but after they part, it slips from her hand and rolls down… to Min-ho’s feet.

When he hears it was from Jae-wook, he hurls it into the lake. Angered, she asks why it’s such a sin for her to date Jae-wook. She berates herself for thinking they were friends and turns heel, away from him.

He trudges alone into the night, reliving his happier memories of her. Finally, he sinks down and cries his heart out.

 
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Min-ho sure does sink his own ship, huh? Though I can’t decide if he’s been character-assassinated by the writer, or if this is the “real” Min-ho. It’s hard to tell at this point what they intend with his character, but I hope his development doesn’t get shortchanged for the couple’s sake.

I’ve changed my mind about Jae-wook, by the way. Min-ho swayed me last week but here’s a fact: Jae-wook has been consistently good to Bo-young from day one, and has always quietly supported her.

He’s as flawed a human as any, but his introversion gives him depth and constancy, creating a quieter, more understated kind of hero. Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but if I had to choose between constant goodness and fiery passion, I’d probably choose the former. (I think! I haven’t been offered the option in real life yet!)

Like Bo-young, I feel surprised and gratified that Jae-wook consistently turns out to be a better person than we think—the rare case of someone whose private actions are better than his public. Even better, it doesn’t feel contrived, but instead rings very true to his nature. But perhaps the thing that is most compelling is how Bo-young’s relationship and interactions with Jae-wook bring her to her most womanly, with the maturity gap that I felt before contracting to a point.

I admit that I still feel there’s something of a visual incongruity for me between tiny chibi-like Lee Yubi and rugged Lee Joon-hyuk of the chiseled jaw, which leads to something of a chemical mismatch that my brain hasn’t fully reconciled, but I maintain that a good guy is better than an exciting one, and that’s a large part of the reason I love them together so much.

Not only does their connection begin from mutual respect and admiration, but as it deepens, their attachment to each other increases based on the worthy qualities they continue to find in each other. That’s a very lovely thing to watch unfold, and I find it difficult to conceive that their bond can be shaken in the remaining two episodes.

I guess we can say Min-ho’s been pretty consistent as well, when it comes to how he treats Bo-young: either very well, or very poorly. His growth is like a pendulum more than anything else, swinging for a while to mature, before regressing back to childishness.

What worries me about his immaturity is that oft-present streak of real cruelty, where he doesn’t really seem to have boundaries when it comes to the object of his anger. When he struck Bo-young down, he wasn’t assailed by a drop of contrition. That’s scary, and a dangerous road for him as a human being.

We see the same instinct in the quad-biking and bracelet incidents. When he’s hurt, he wants to hurt in return, and instantly actualizes those wishes. He both blames and punishes her for his own pain, and that is as problematic as the way he physically lashes out. (If that isn’t where rape culture begins…)

He brought up the fact that Jae-wook had also rejected Bo-young the first time, but there’s a crucial difference in the two’s rejections. Min-ho rejected her because he didn’t like her, and he went on to continue hurting her, their misunderstandings notwithstanding.

On the other hand, Jae-wook rejected her because he was scared of starting a relationship, not because he didn’t like her. For Jae-wook, his actual feelings for Bo-young overcame his fears and he was able to make a save of that, and didn’t let the timing get away from him. I do want Min-ho to redeem himself, but he sure as hell ain’t ready to be in a relationship with anyone right now but a therapist.

In other relationship dramatics, I just loved this week’s pairing of poor hapless Nam-woo with equally hapless Shi-won. Shi-won’s probably the character it took me the longest to like (and stop resenting) but he’s kind of like a spaniel, always yapping and nipping at your ankles—annoying, pitiful and somehow lovable. I feel like his character represents the “everyhuman” in the broadest possible way, with so much to dislike about him at first, but then when you come to understand him, somehow those things don’t seem as bad and you end up rooting for him, too.

While got a lot of relationship development, most of this week’s poignancy came from our patients. Though our friends aren’t constantly on the razor-edge of life and death, they still come face to face with mortality on a regular basis. People die, they grieve, and then they have to find a way to carry on.

Our radiologists in particular showed us how in their care of the living, they honor the people they’ve lost, in scenes that are as painful as they are touching. With the physios and Chief Surgeon Kim, we feel how thin the line is between caregiver and patient, and how hard it is to become the latter.

The tenderness with which our team cares for them sends a message of love and hope, despite the suffering that illness brings. It’s this show at its best, transcending the screen as warmth seeps out of every pore.

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Yes, whatever sympathy I had for Min-ho evaporated in episode 14. He was downright cruel and almost abusive. The worst was when he opened the door and made her fall down. Physical abuse is a bright red line for me. Jae-wook is different from the typical Kdrama hero, and I think that's a good thing. He's would actually make a great partner IRL.

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I agree completely. Min-ho had a massive regression to childishness in Episode 14. Not only did he cause her to fall down, he walked away while she was lying on the ground. He certainly seemed to be having a major pity party with himself. I can only hope that he doesn't turn out to be the H in this drama, especially given the Episode 15 preview which seemed to imply he was making a case that he was a better fit for Bo Young than Dr. Ye. He has a long way to grow before he can even be equal to Dr Ye let alone better.

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Min-ho is the immature neglected chaebol who used to be the 1st lead in classic kdramas... on the other hand Dr Ye is the nice guy who used to give us the 2nd lead syndrom in classic kdramas...

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Seriously couldn’t agree with you more; typically it would be one step forward, two steps back, but with min-ho it’s like one step forward, 10 steps back!!

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When he opened the door and she was knocked down you could see he from his expression he was shocked. He didn't TRY to knock her down, it just happened, then he struggled with his wounded pride over his natural impulse to rush to her side to comfort her.

Sure, he's an immature brat but at that age love genuinely hurts, like a wound. His story arc was never going to be the 'love match', it was going to be 'the young cad who learns what rejected love feels like'.

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Thank for the weecap! I appreciate it!

Weirdly enough, I get a sense that it isn't totally over for Min-ho, ......though i can't imagine how they'll make it happen.

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*cough* The only way that could happen is with an open ending, namely:

Ye Liner runs into Iceberg of Noble Idiocy or Truck of Doom. Time skip. Min Ho reforms and meets Bo Young at a poetry slam. The end.

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I love it and Min-ho has already been hit by the Motorcycle of Doom.

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I don't know, Min Ho seems to resort to cruelty whenever he's offended, even to the person of his affection. His actions to Bo Young now are the same as when he sneered her when he disliked her. It makes me shudder for Bo Young if ever they are in a relationship. Physical abuse, verbal threatening and manipulation or even more can easily come out from him easily if ever they are in disagreement and or differences of opinion.

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Can MH be any more immature? Hitting her with the door and not apologizing, throwing away her gift...seriously. He is not even a friend not to talk about attempting a relationship with BY. He needs to grow up in last 2 episodes for his character to be redeemable.

I really really like BY and JW together (Yeliner forever). Despite the age difference, Lee Yubi and Lee Joon Hyuk look good together (maybe its just me). She doesn't look too young for him which is something I worry about when the male leads are in the different age group. Despite liking Gong Yoo and Kim Go-eun individually, I cringed at the Goblin OTP or Chae Soo Bin and Um Ki Joon (second lead) in I'm not a robot which was a jarring pairing for me.

Shi-won and Nam-woo had me laughing out loud in this episode. As much as I related to their difficulties, their spiritless reactions were priceless. One more week to go. Hope the show stays good to the end.

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lol Lee Yubi and Lee Joon Hyuk's age gap is only 6 years, it's just that he looks really manly and her looks are cute.

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I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings but I think the writer woke up and realized there just isn't enough story to tell with the OTP finally together and decided to make MH the antagonist instead of a character in his own right and I'm just so terribly disappointed
This is why I hate love triangles, it keeps characters in boxes and never just lets them do their own thing cause they're busy either scoring or being an obstacle to keep the story interesting.
Well, I'm out.

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I'm not asking for your permission lmao if I think a story is bad I'm gonna say it
I'm not mad Minho didn't get the girl, I'm annoyed cause half the drama is narratively worthless.

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I'm a Ye Liner, and I'm mad about how the writing went down. It makes no sense narratively for turn Minho took, and so much potential character growth has been missing and/or wasted with almost the whole bunch of them. Oh well, on to the next drama.

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Why do people think we're bitter Min Ho didn't get the girl when we've explained why we have issues with Dr. Ye?
Why do people take personal offense when Woo Bo Young, Ye Jae Wook, and Shin Min Ho are fictional characters?
How is this any different from people saying they don't like Min Ho, yet we are vilified for saying we don't like Dr. Ye? I don't even NOT like him; I just don't KNOW him.

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Try not to get caught up in troll-warfare, guys, we can all better than that. This is such a friendly fandom, let's not ruin it now! <3

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*do better, dammit

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Nah, they're not trolling, they're just rude. A lot of people get defensive over this drama. I get it, to a degree.

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basically my point. defensive fine, offensive not.

I guess I really *am* old fashioned, because the troll I meant is the grumpy kind living under bridges trying to eat humans XD

Let's not savage each other in our disagreements, friends.

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Thanks @saya for all the recaps.
With this show coming to an end maybe this is a good place to revisit one of my favorite scenes in the series when everyone was sort of getting along: THE SHINSUN HOSPITAL FLASHMOB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYAv6Lozpv4

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Also my favourite!

And after watching it for the 4540698th time, the more upset I am about the way Min-ho's character's been treated. Sigh. I liked Good Min-ho so much.

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The OTP pairing is really the side-show.
The true heart of the series is the struggles of everyday service industry employees. Long hours, mismatched workplace personalities, poverty, job insecurity, hopelessness. We were given a romance because every K-drama needs a romance. Same thing happened with 'Strongest Deliveryman' and 'Revolutionary Love' which in their best moments were about everything BUT the central romance.

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This show started to lose me last week and then this week’s episodes were sort of the nail in the coffin. I was bored, Min-ho’s character trajectory angered me, and Nam-woo was too sad for too long. And I’m still not feeling the OTP, which is funny because I was so on the Ye Line before I realized I felt nothing in my heart for Dr. Ye even though, on paper, he’s a character I should love.

Will I watch finale week? Probably, just for the sake of completion. But I don’t really care what happens anymore, sadly.

I still like my ending idea more than where I see the show going. Oh well. I should write my own drama, then. 😛

But I will stop here so I don’t bog down the thread with my negativity, and I hope the Beanies who love this show will love it until the end. Sorry for being such a killjoy!

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Are there any Beanies who still love this show? Because Show has clearly taken a downward spiral.

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I loved it until ep. 12. I feel like this week's episodes were filler, but then again I've been dropping dramas after ep. 12 lately: there is a slump in energy and the story spins in circles for me after the OTP gets together. That's why I try to avoid dramas with a mainly romantic premise - fortunately I have the Radiology Department Guys and Nam Woo to care enough to finish this drama.

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Wow, they butchered Min Ho's character. They undid all of his character growth in one episode. Bo Young should have slapped him for throwing her bracelet in the pond. Congrats, Min Ho, whatever little chance you had with her (which was zero, basically) has now flown out the window along with her bracelet. Was he crying at the pond where he threw her bracelet? 'Cause that boy better be diving into the pond and fishing out her bracelet, and he better not come back until he finds it, or else he's walking back to Seoul. I wanted to drop-kick him when he hit Bo Young with the car door and knocked her to the ground and didn't even apologize or help her up. This is supposed to be the girl you like!? Then when Min Ho went off on Dr. Ye about rejecting Bo Young at first and how hurt she was, I gaped, "Do you even hear yourself right now!?"

I dedicate the title of Episode 13 to my puppies: "Go. Home." No more depressed, FML, Debbie Downer puppy, and certainly no more depressed, FYL, Bitter Betty puppy. Forget Candy Mi Rae and focus on your own mirae (future) like Min Ho said; study hard, pass the exam, and find a full-time job (or work at your family's hospital in Min Ho's case) like Nam Woo said. Grrr at the disappearing note. Rip off the band-aid off already; break his heart, and get it over with. I breathed a sigh of relief when Min Ho finally discovered their relationship.

I am honestly invested only in the trio. And by "trio," I don't mean Dad & his two rowdy kids (even though I adore Joo Yong-Joo Yong); I mean our college friends trio. Ignoring Episode 14, Bo Young is perfect with Min Ho and Nam Woo in a purely platonic way. They have the most comfortable camaraderie. She sasses them, hits them, confides in them, and cries in front of them. Even after everything that happened today, can't Bo Young and Min Ho at least stay friends? The trio can hang out when Bo Young visits her mother and half-brother in Anseong.

I feel Bo Young has lost her spark, and as a result, this show has lost its spark. Where is the girl who danced Nayana at noraebang and sang Mujogeon in the hospital stairwell? What happened to her over-the-top reactions that Min Ho loved to tease her about and wild imaginations?

Regrettably, Dr. Ye's character is still not fleshed out enough, and it is entirely due to the fact that he has no family, no friends, and no home. Today I learned Chief Yang's high school son Jin Sung speaks fluent English, studied abroad, and underage drinks behind his father's back. Today I also learned Dr. Ye is... a good doctor. Which I've known since Episode 1. His work is literally his life. As Section Chief Kim's doctor, why didn't Bo Young continue his bedside PT as soon as he admitted he was embarrassed in front of the patients in the rehabilitation center? It doesn't take a yenius to come up with that plan.

No matter what happens next week, I've already written the ending in my...

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(cont.)

No matter what happens next week, I've already written the ending in my head, so my fanfic may have to become canon. Many thanks for the weecap, @Saya!

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Seriously, do you really know any juvenile screw-ups with were transformed within weeks because they fell for a girl? Min-ho is what Min-ho always was because that's how things work. His 'character growth' involved living the pain of unrequited love when he started the series oblivious to the pain he caused.

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Oh, yes. Everything you said times 100! You said everything I was thinking but didn’t feel like typing out. Because I just don’t care much anymore.

I would upvote this 100 times if I could!

Especially the part about Bo-young, which just makes me sad. I used to be so excited to gif her and she was such a fun character, but now... I don’t know what happened. You’re right, she lost her spark. She doesn’t light up my screen anymore. You can have a character enter a mature relationship while still being fun!

But part of the problem was that she spent all of episode 14 just being treated poorly by Min-ho. Ugh. Where’s the fun, show?! This isn’t fun! Or satisfying!

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Is it time to change your profile pic? Bo Young was a-freaking-dorable in Episode 1. I mourn what could have been.

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I made a new My Ajusshi Ji-an icon (she is turning into my favorite drama character ever after BTLIOF’s Nam Se-hee) but didn’t like how it looked when it was so small next to my posts lol. So I changed it back right away. I need to find another good screencap to use for her.

Maybe another awesome heroine will pop up soon who I can make my icon.

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I rewatched episodes 1 and 2 last week (because there was something I wanted to check) and I was struck by how much more fun Bo-young was in those episodes! She also seemed a much stronger person, upbeat and determined however much rubbish life was throwing at her.

It made me sad.

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"He has no family, no friends, and no home." YES this is perfect. It's not like he's a bad or an inconsistent character, he's just barely a character. After 14 episodes I should be able to say "yeah, he's about to do this now because of that thing" but I can't with Ye.
And this isn't about him being an introvert, BTIOFL Se-hee was an introvert but he had plenty of scenes where he was just himself, outside of Ji-ho's context, and I understood him perfectly.

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Your description of Dr. Ye as a character is exactly what I was trying to tell someone else today, but you said it much better than I feel like I was able to.

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Better late than never, I'm glad I gave this drama a second chance. I'm still on ep 6 but I'm already all in for the Ye Line ! 😄

I came into the drama for Lee Joon Hyuk, but I found myself enjoying the overall vibe from the drama. It feels so familiar because I also work in a hospital, and I can relate to almost every scenes on personal level, especially the scenes between healthcare professional.

While I was watching, I couldn't stop thinking : "Ah.. There's always that one (or two) annoying senior(s) around the workplace, and the outcasted people too."

"Oh, I have met with that kind of patient too.."

"Aah.. I understand why he/she wants to help the patient.."

"Oh ! That's how I felt when I have an uncomfortable conflict with a doctor or a nurse, it's so ridiculously accurate, it hurts.."

The only different is that there's no someone like Ye Jae Wook around me 😂

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I just have this feeling that we may be doomed to the kdrama penchant for the bad boy getting the girl. I think she and her sunbae are SO adorably lovable and sweet together, but I dread the cliche of 'the past catching up with him' or some other such random, nonsensical reason he will be forced to end their relationship.

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I also hope that this isn't where the drama plans to go since as it relates to Min-ho the accent is on the "boy" portion of "bad boy." As we saw in Episode 15 Min-ho is still a child and not yet ready for a mature relationship.

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If Jae Wook were forced to end their relationship, it would be over a work matter because the writers have given him no life outside of work.

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except for the previous 'affair' and that woman who keeps showing up...

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I thought so too until this episode. So I feel bad for the Min Ho Cruise Ship but actually feel the writing is better than I thought it was going to be. Mileage varies, especially while negotiating Island reefs.

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Hmm, I was never in this one for the romance, so I'm OK with the show still.

My biggest complaint was that the romance stuff took up more time, so there was less of the other stuff I like. Namwoo, the radiology dept (sniff, tear, peach juice), and what happened to Chief Kim in the end?

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Poor Chief Kim, forgotten just as the poetry in the title.

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Yes, I wish they took up some minutes to show how dear and memorable patients are doing by the finale (including chief Kim).
I am also here for these other characters and not only the romance (or the love triangle). The problem is: must be difficult for the writer to be balanced. If he had focused more in the otp, like giving us more info about dr. Ye and his past, family, etc... his life outside the hospital, then people would complain he forgot about the other characters, if he had not focused in Min ho (even when his arc became worse) people would have complain that he wasted his character as the second lead; if he would have developed Dae bang's ship with divorced dr. Kim then there would have been not enough time for Bo young or Nam woo, and so on and so on...
If he would have made bo young and jae wook get into a fight just for the sake of differences or excitement, then people would have complain they never knew how they get along in their dating time...
There is no end for possibilities what could have been worse, what could have been better. Because they have a big cast and only 16 episodes with music, poetry and pace... There is not enough time for a neat story for everyone, and I wouldn't be surprised there will be loose ends at the end. As good as a writer can be, he won't have time for everything he had imagined or everything we had wanted.
It sucks, but it is like that.
At least, let's wait our bo young to be happy with the man she likes, get a permanent job, min ho grows upa little bit, Nam woo finds his alligator shirt again and the rest of the cast simply carry on with their lives with courage.

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I also feel like some of the patient stories are done superbly well (like the peach juice guy, the boy who couldn't play basketball etc) and is linked with character growth in our main chcs but sometimes the stories are awkwardly inserted and don't give the desired emotional impact. Ex. They suddenly introduced Chief Kim and how he was Bo Young's role model, proceeded to injure him and then show how Dr. Ye helped him out, reinforcing BY's love for him. But like I felt they took so much time on a character who (conveniently) wasn't even around before? And then they dropped him after that ep and never revisited him again. The time should've spent exploring something else or maybe the Chief should've been their department's one so that the writer could show how everyone in the department (Dr. Park , Dr. Ye, BY, NW, gossip girls etc) came together to rehabilitate him and become a stronger team and that would've been more emotional.

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The writer is too good at making a drama that would have been one of the top 5 of my favourites list settle at the very top of my WTH list , another show that had the potential to be a great drama but got screwed up towards the end :(

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I was upset the way MH turned out. I watch these dramas to see character growth and development in 16-20 episodes. I get that anger and resentment and normal, human flaws, an that they cannot be easily overcome but I see enough of it in real life, do I really need to see it in dramas too?

While BY and JW don't really exude that much "excitement" like it the beginning, I actually still think they're adorable. They are the calm peace I want in a relationship, based on genuine, mutual respect for each other. Enough of boys who pull on girls pigtails because "he likes you". It's 2018, people. I also disagree with PreviewMH saying that BY isn't comfortable with JW. I actually feel that they are. The whole "secret relationship" is bound to be known soon, anyway. They're only starting their relationship and there's plenty of time to get to know each other.

The impact for other storylines, while great at first, is starting to die down. I feel like they had potential, even the radiology department stories, but the delivery was juuuuustt lacking a bit.

I still like the show overall. As it gave me the boost I needed to awaken from my slump. But I fear it may not be enough to prevent me from relapse once it ends.

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Would just like to agree with this - Bo Young is NOT not comfortable around Ye Jae Wook. As stated on another thread, she looks plenty comfy to me. ^^ I bet all that will happen is Bo Young will tell him, "I'm plenty comfy! So back off."

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I agree with you. Also in ep 12 or 13, when BY and JW both attended to Chief Kim, it struck me how similar and made for each other they are. Without saying anything, they both took care of him and cancel their dates to go to his room.

They share similar values and love for their jobs. Minho doesn't even like physical therapy.

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You’ve said it all. When I watch, I want to see character development as well. I wanted to see Min-Ho puppy 🐶 grow up, but he’s regressing again. I don’t know if I’ll continue watching as I missed this week’s episodes, bit will enjoy the recaps nonetheless!

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Episode 13 was very sweet. I just loved the song at the end, Bo-young and Dr. Ye had some really adorable moments, and mopey Nam-woo getting stuck as Min-ho's date was hilarious. The story with Chief Kim would have been a lot more emotional though, had they introduced him earlier (I think I had some trouble getting into it too because seeing Kim Won-hae as a patient again brought back memories of SWDBS's horrible gangster scenes lol *shudders*) Episode 14...yikes. The radiology story was lovely though and I teared up a few times.
Min-ho isn't my fav and it's not out of character for him to act like an immature brat again because unrequited love plus your crush dating someone else has got to hurt, but the writer did him dirty this episode. He really crossed a line, and two more eps isn't enough for all the growing up he has to do to come back from this.

I really do enjoy this show, but I get the feeling that sometimes the writer doesn't really know what they want to do and misses opportunities. Like why not focus more on Min-ho's training instead of having his development just be about Bo-young. Same with my sons Nam-woo and Joo-yong, it'd be nice to see some serious scenes with them working towards their goals but the writer mostly goes for laughs instead. It just doesn't feel like a whole lot happened even though it's been 14 episodes already.

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Concerning Min-ho in episode 14 I kind of agree with your comment "but the writer did him dirty this episode". A reversion to the old Min-ho. Towards the end of the episode I think the writer tried to balance things a bit.
I replayed it. After Min-ho throws the bracelet into the lake (asked why, "Because I felt like it.") Bo-young lays into him
but good ending with calling him a bast..d. MH never said a word while BY vented. He starts walking in a daze recalling happy memories and then for several minutes while he slowly walks MH gives a soulful recitation of the poem "Lily Magnolia" by Do Jong-wan. It is a beautifully filmed sequence and poem. Near the end of the poem are the words "It's like watching yourself become a cruel person." The scene ends with him sobbing.
I think he knows he messed up big time.
Replay the last 10 minutes of the episode.
Both poems in the series that Min-ho has recited have been beautiful.
(I am currently also watching SUITS so I guess I am trying to give MH a little bit of a defense.)
(PS I think an argument could be made that Min-ho was written in this episode to match this poem. In other words the poem came first, Min-ho second.)

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Agree. Also, if I don't remember wrong, it is the only poem in this episode. If he would turn over by the finale, I would understand his arc and the poem. But if not, I will think it was lazy writing, even around a poem.

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Actually that line "watching yourself become a cruel person" was about the only thing that redeemed the episode for me, and I say that not as someone who hates what MH did- honestly I was just rolling my eyes through it all- but more because they linked it back to Poetry, and made it less of a awkwardly written character scene and more of a human error ... if that last sentence made sense at all.

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It makes perfect sense. Lol but his character trajectory was still hella awkward, this ep!! It’s like the writers can’t settle for the lesser of two extremes so they give us someone who’s consistently very swoon worthy vs someone who’s pretty much been a consistent ass aside from a couple of eps.

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Oh for sure, if you see my bellow comment, I'm not really keen on the direction of any of the characters right now to be honest, and Minho's was undoubtedly the worst.

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I think that for a lot of this drama the writer found the poem first and then wrote the scenes to match. But this show has given me a new appreciation for poetry.

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I do agree that realizes he messed up. His crying at the end seemed like it was less out of how unfair he thinks his situation is and more because he's upset with himself for how he's dealing with it. I think they went too far with his lashing out though. If they were gonna go this route it would've been better a few episodes ago to allow more time for some satisfying character development.

I think so too, about his character being written around this episode's poem. Some of the other poems felt like that too.

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It was a bit awkward, I hear you. We all become petty when we realize our crush is unrequited but throwing the bracelet in the water was a dick move. Him walking on the bridge while reading the poem made me feel for him a bit. Minho is so used to being rejected (by his family) while expecting BY to be around that it must have hurt even more when he discovered she had moved on to Dr. Ye.

I hope the next two episodes focus on Minho letting go of BY and learning to love his new profession.

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Yes yes yes to this. I think some people forgot that Minho is consistenly getting ditched for his better, older brother, to find out that the girl you have serious feeling for and thought was in your order did the same thing, had got to be a huge blow to him. Enough for him to act out. I mean he didn't even have a complete day to process. That being said, I think the writers did may have went a bit far with the car door scene. That did not sit well with me, but everything else felt in character to someone with low maturity and confidence being rejected by the one person he trusted to be on his side. Even the bracelet scene. And that ending scene with him being remorseful and pathetic was beautiful. So I wasn't completely upset at this episode...just some of the scenes.

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No worries. :D I completely agree with you. I thought the episode was fairly consistent to what we had been shown about his character so far.

The car door scene was too much though, but I think he regretted immediately. Even he seemed surprised when she fell.

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Frankly, I find the Min-ho story line refreshing. K-dramas are notorious for telling young women 'Date the jerk because you'll be able to change him!' This drama is saying 'Date the nice guy because jerks are going to remain jerks.'

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Thanks, @saya, for the wee-cap!

I've been pretty silent on this drama even though I've been watching it to shave off my impatience waiting for My Ajusshi episodes. It's such a lovely, breezy drama to watch. I especially love the poetry, which, before the drama aired, didn't interest me much. But, it's just wonderful how they have incorporated it in the story telling.

I know there have been a lot of shipping wars, and while I'm not on the Island of Neutrality, I was rather disappointed in this week's episodes because there didn't seem to be much character growth. I was always on the Ye Line, although as many commentators have noted, the character seems a bit two-dimensional. But, I thought Min Ho was the end game.

However, after this week, I have to wonder if the writer has enough episodes to change our minds about Min Ho, because as Saya said, he has SO MUCH growing up to do. It's not just that he's childish, but he's downright cruel with no remorse or even an inkling that his behavior is WAY out of line.

Also, I don't see much growth in our supporting characters. I'm particularly disappointed in Kim Yoon Joo. I thought she was starting to have a really good character arc and narrative, and then it all just disappeared!

But, I'm still in it for the poetry, and Dr. Ye (flat as he is)! In the end, I think we just want to see Bo Young happy. So, I guess I'm ultimately on the happiness ship, whoever that ends up being.

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This show was the highlight of my week and I'm glad that it held my interest for a long time unlike some shows which die down after 8. I admit I kind of fast forwarded some scenes in Ep 14 and wasn't really interested in the other characters except when the main two came on(I do this with a lot of shows) and the character butchering really didn't do the show any justice because I thought both male leads were awesome from the start each had their own character trajectory. The slice of life feel of this show was the biggest draw of this show so I'm only gonna leave with good feelings because it's finishing anyway.
(If it were longer I probably would have been bored out of my mind because I can see it going nowhere 🙃)

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Wow! I wonder why the writers decided to give Min Hon such a nasty incorrigible 'almost ending'! And this is coming from a Ye Liner! I literally yelled 'NO baby NO' seeing his antics this week. If and how the writers will be able to give his character some redemption - is something that I will be looking forward to.

I am miffed as to why they are still not exploring Dr Ye's life outside the hospital. Do Bo Young and him talk about their families? Has she been to his place? Or just seen the inside of his house? Does he have brothers? Sisters? Friends? Neighbours? Anything? We have two more episodes left and I will be left so unsatisfied if we are kept in the dark.

But that being said, I was happy with their budding romance this week. Clearly they have similar values (treating the chief), there is mutual respect, there is the awkward adorableness, care and love. To me personally mutual respect is a huge marker for the sustainability of a long term relationship. If there is no respect there cannot be any passion. Respect is something Min Ho lost from Bo Young this week. I can only wait to see how it will pan out in the last two episodes.

I laughed out aloud at Dr Park and Nam Woo's poetry reciting hugging it out scenes. They are hilariously pitiful and funny and the same time. I hope they find some hope in the later episodes.

Seeing how they have made Min Ho a real jerk this week I wonder in which direction this drama will end next week. Will there be the separation trope? The huge time jump trope? Amnesia? Meddling in laws? Haha. It is a waiting game, I guess.

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Do Bo Young and him talk about their families? Has she been to his place? Or just seen the inside of his house? Does he have brothers? Sisters? Friends? Neighbours? Anything?

Will they ever stop calling each other "Ye seonsaengnim" and "Woo seonsaengnim"?

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I know right!!! Argh!! I am just waiting for him to call her Bo Youngie and for her to call him Oppa!!!

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"Oppa" is pushing it for someone like Dr. Ye (even though Lee Yubi calls Lee Joon Hyuk "Oppa"). I would settle for "Jae Wook-ssi," which was what his ex-girlfriend called him.

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You are right! Haha!

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Will they ever stop calling each other "Ye seonsaengnim" and "Woo seonsaengnim"?

Asking the right questions 👏😂. Their relationship seems really formal and cutesy but if they are endgame I hope to see some personal development so it isn't so detached.

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When I read this comment I was like: yes, I feel the same. I wish these episodes would have shown more cute bo young and jae wook talking about their lives outside the hospital, but I suppose the writer wants to be fair with other characters as well. Here you have an ensemble, it is difficult to give more details, although many could be said instead of shown. Take a little less of praise (jae wook to bo young) and give a little bit more of information.
But their screen time still very cute.
Min ho going back to immature kid, careless and even cruel 😖😑😖.

Poor writing like some are pointing out?? Maybe also.
But will it be worthy at the end?? We will find out.
These two episodes were the ones with less poems. Maybe that is why they feel so down and upsetting.

I am happy for my ship but I also feel the writer is missing something important at the end.

I really hope the finale doesn't bring new characters, cameos, or whatever (except for jae wooks' mom) and work with the characters we already have, giving them a decent closure with poetry.

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I still like the drama. Forced conflicts are a way of life in drama land. As long as they are not overtly stupid, I can go along for the ride just for the sake of the story-telling. The only way this drama can be ruined for me is if the writer turns the ending into an illogical set of choices that don't ring true to the to the story we have had up to this point.

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It says alot about a drama when i ship minho with bo young at first but then when dr ye comes around i immediately feel happy for bo young but minho was a real disappointment this week and I hope the writer does him justice cus jang dong yoon has done a good job considering how minho keep swinging back and forth on the spectrum.

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O/T a bit. I wonder when Jang Dong-yoon saw the script for episode 14 if he did not give off an "ugh, here we go again". He has given a fine performance as the character is written.
(I hope JDY gets a totally different role in his next drama. No typecasting please.)

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Ikr he probrably has given up on minho himself XD
But yeah here's hoping he gets a character that truly does him justice, I'm hoping something like Junho in chief kim or Park Hyung Sik in suits

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For JDY's first non-high school, grown-up drama (I know, I know, we can argue about how grown-up Mh is), it was a pretty decent part? At least he got to do lots of emoting: we had smiling, crying, jealousy, anger, and infatuation, and all of them were believable.

So, you know, onwards and upwards. He's got a few dramas to go before he's Junho or Park Hyung Sik...

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I am not sure how I feel about Min-ho. I expected him to have grown a bit more. I'm not sure if this is staying true or if the writer's are doing a character assassination. I hope it is just a bump in the road. Well written character growth is such a treat.
The depressed duo were so fun. Especially slowly riding their quad. I hope 🐊 is reunited with Nam-woo soon or finds a new owner who loves him as much.

OT and will keep it brief but I just finished, not 5 minutes ago, ep 14 of My Ahjussi and EEEP. I hid my face for a minute.
Sorry just had to get that out around others who may understand, but won't hi jack the thread.

Dr. Ye and Bo-Young are special too. I love that she might have to be careful of liking things in front of him because he will get it for her, lol.
And the marinara scene....so sweet.

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Is it bad that I'm team no-one? Min Ho is a disappointment and while Dr. Ye is great, there's just this aspect of him not being well fleshed out enough so much that he comes off as too much fantasy 2D as opposed to a ~real~ awesome catch that he is. Ugh. I was definitely bored in episode 14... but there's only two more episodes to go, so I might as well watch it till the end.

I sorta just wanna see Bo Young have fun with her single, poetry reading adventures honestly with Min Ho and Nam Woo as her side kick friends who occasionally rope Joo young into their misdemeanors, with a dash of Yoon Joo and Dae Bang.

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There is a whole island on Team No One.

Yes, those are the most fun characters in the cast. Our four beach buddies, Dae Bang-Dae Bang, and Yoon Joo. I loved when Min Ho met Dae Bang; let's introduce Dae Bang to Nam Woo too! Yoon Joo may be a bit messy (in both definitions of the word), but she always sticks up for Bo Young. Could Yoon Joo stand being in the same room as Dae Bang, though? 😂

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You know. I think I have a problem with how this writer writes her lead males. The lead in Drinking Solo was an asshole right through that drama and never got better and yet were were somehow supposed to root for him. The only thing being that I think she wrote the secondary characters far better in that, than in this one, because once again, our side characters have gone nowhere for about 4 or more episodes and I've been bored for longer than that.
Minho is a prime example of how NOT to write a lead if you want your viewers to actually like him. There are better ways of writing immature little shits (cough Key's characterr in DS, although I pin a lot of that on his acting tbh), and not have them backtrack to be the most A grade of A Grade petty assholes kindergartners, in episode 14 of all things.
Honestly I was so detached from these episodes I wasn't that annoyed, but in retrospect, if he'd been written differently from the beginning he would have a lot more people rooting for him. Just maybe less of an immature brat in the first place? And none of this selfish stuff? Pls? I want to go back in time and re write this show's endign for Theme of the Month.
As for Dr. Ye... honestly I can't say anything better. I had this thought the other day, and maybe I'm being a bit harsh, but he just has no nice or decent interaction with anyone other than BoYoung and sometimes his patients. He doesn't seem to care about anyone other than BY. And I'm aware that some people write this off as just who he is as a person, but to me it comes off as weak writing, and that he's there to be a love interest and nothing more. I don't feel like his actions are an ingrained part of his character, like I did with Se Hee in BTLIOF, I feel like he's just going through the motions for no reason.
Not to mention his tension with Min Ho is the least interesting thing ever, and is extremely poorly executed.
I'm not even sure if anyone in this drama has any decent character development anymore. Just stagnation.

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I had to drop Drinking Solo because of how much of an asshole the main male lead was. And what blew my mind was that the female lead just threw herself into his arms when he said "hey, I know I was a really cruel mean dude, but I like you now."

He really was a complete dick for like 12 episodes straight and didn't grow or change in anyway before their relationship. Show really ruined that actor for me, because I liked him in 1% Of Anything, where he played a better written version of that character.

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I remember ep 8 of Drinking Solo, when he actually came round a bit and turned up for her livestream event and I thought: oh excellent, now it will all get better. Then it did for 2 episodes before he did a 180 and returned to being a total git and ... I can't even remember how it ended.

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Ironic when you think of what they're doing to Minho in this... hmmm hahaha
They weren't even together in the end. They were maybe gonna start dating again after he pulled some noble idiocy on her and was a dick to her... and then they just ended. Everyone else got a better resolution yeesh.

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You're right, it's exactly the same! Min ho is nice in ep 10 and then we're back to the start...

This writer needs to get some new ideas. But I guess Drinking Solo had high viewing numbers, so she thought she'd just do the same thing all over again?

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Will be very interesting to see what next week brings in light of how DS ended...

The writer needs to realise that what she does well is not even the main parts of her shows, that is, it's her tertiary and secondary characters and camaraderie comedy. And not love triangles and romance. Hmmm

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He played a better written version of that same character in Radiant Office too, and I was quite appalled at how he never once got better in DS. However I watched DS and fell in love with the Noryangjin Trio, and those were the only scenes I actually really paid any attention to. Once I realized I was only invested in their stories, I texted people during most of the OTP scenes haha

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I loved that trio on DS! They were the only reason why I watched the final few episodes.

Like you were saying about Min ho ^^ the writer did this in APAD as well. Our dorm trio. And again, it isn't quite as good. And there was that colleague romance.

Basically APAD is a watered-down version of DS and what was wrong with DS is very wrong with APAD as well. With the Dorm Trio not quite as good as the Noryangjin Trio, and with the main couple brought more to the foreground with the shipping war, those problems are just so much more obvious.

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They were honestly the highlight of that watching experience for me. I wish Key was in more dramas, he's just so good at comedy.
The Trio isn't quite is good no. In fact, I think it would've been better if they'd had the Radiology Duo, and linked them to the PT department in some other way other than being dorm mates, because it sort of took away from the RDuo's scenes and development and they were some of my favourite scenes.
*colleague romance that hasn't come to anything this time round though* Another reason that despite the leads in this being less dicks comparatively, I think DS did a better job overall, and yes, APAD is just a watered down version of DS, albiet with poetry which is a slight plus for me since I love poetry haha. The problems are indeed more obvious and harder to ignore because the side stories and characters aren't as well written, or acted, and in general just less interesting, so you can't even tune out during the main story line, because the sub story lines are only sometimes better.

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The colleague (teachers) romance was beautiful. When she told him she was pregnant and he started crying because "he wouldn't have to be alone anymore?" Wow. And we got to see them happy-ever-aftering, too. As for the main couple; girl, cut that man loose!

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Ah, I did not watch Drinking Solo, but the writing/character forensics skills of the Beanies who watched both comes through. Cause of drama death ? Weak writting ! Writer needs to do time for the crime they’ve committed against the loveable Woo.

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I thought I was on team Ye, but I realized that I'm on team Bo-young. I think Bo-young is super awesome, and I'll accept whoever she wants to be with that makes her happy.

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YES! I think there are a lot of people on team Bo-Young! Paraphrasing Ye, who wouldn't love her?

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I am on board for Ye-line! Say no to Childish Baby Minho!!

I still like Minho but he is being abusive to Boyoung is a no-no! Why would you want to hurt your love one?

Boyoung is being herself whether she is with Jewook or minho. She matches herself according to the opposite person. I think that she is more comfortable with Jaewook than Minho.

I love jewook in love with Boyoung. It is so cute!!

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Thank you, @Saya, so, so, so much for beautiful recap. I loved your comments.

Who would have thought that in these episodes the radiologists will make me cry? Not Bo young, not Min ho, oh yes, one patient, chief Kim... But Dae bang mostly. It was really touching for me.

My ship: I feel like you, Saya, about Jae wook. I also understand the beanies who complain about he being written two dimensional with no family and friends (until now). In RL I would never ever date a man with no relations... I would be afraid of what of an empty place he would be as a human being.
But with Jae wook, maybe because I am a Yeliner, I don't feel that upset, I just feel the writer is not giving me the info. Whenever he would, we would understand. Now... I suppose, in Asian culture (in general) not having close friends is rather common. I studied with many Chinese, and although they would gather with colleagues a lot, it was for the common sake of surviving in a foreign country, but no because they were friends, they were loners. Back home I ask... also not many close friends, according to what they say. Kind of individualist the environment? I thought, "oh then it is not much different from Germany", but let me back to our story. I will blame the writer and not the character. Jae wook keeps on being nice, processional, care giving and simply growing slowly as a boyfriend. I loved the way he confronted Min ho, telling him to act according to his status, because Bo young is his sunbae at work. It may seem very formal, but till that point, Jae wook didn't know Min ho was attracted to Bo young as a woman, and he was also not aware they were being "friends". It is normal he would defend her position first. But anyway, once he knew, he also said bravely he is the one dating her now and would not let her go, still with a pose of a gentleman. He is a man of composure😅.
A mystery still? I am not sure...
However the writer is highlighting their dating time and working time over their families and friends (Bo young mother was shown only once), I feel it is like that because he doesn't have time to include everything.
Bo young is also presented as a girl with no friends! She is friendly, totally, but the show is not giving her "besties". Her sunbae or the junior interns are not her friends. Min ho was turning into a friend to her, and also the boys, but it was because he was interested in her.

Oh but by the way... I could also talk about Min ho for hours, due to the underdevelopment of his character in ep. 14. Can we blame again the writer for not knowing what to do with the second lead, or for giving our OTP grieve through the second lead, so that there is a conflict? Maybe.
But, on the other hand, I must say I was not so totally surprised Min ho turned out this way. Why? Just like Bo young said, he is like an elementary school. He is totally immature and has been since ep 1. He was changing with her, yeah because he was...

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he was interested. Now that he knows she is with Jae wook, well, now she has to pay for it. He doesn't know how to be genuinely concern for others like Bo young. He is selfish, but not in a mean way, he is simply young and immature. And that is the reason why I didn't ship him with her, because he could no be grown-up enough as a human being in order to "represent" her. Because again, she is emotionally and professionally more mature than him. So, if she would want to have fun with a rich boyfriend, then maybe yeah, he could be a pretty good match once he is nice to her... But that is not her personality. She is not crazy about getting married or anything, but she is also not a silly girl just dating for the sake of fun. She needs something serious enough, loving and professionally in her level. So that is also another reason why Jae wook is better for her.
Min ho has also not shown much growing in the working field, and he is a beginner in poetry.
In conclusion: like Saya said, he is sinking his own ship. And I am sorry for him, but I am upset with him and how his immaturity makes him act, even being cruel with the girl he likes. Suppose you get her, boy... Whenever there is a fight, are you going to hit her, blame her, stop talking to her or leave her laying on the ground where you put her? It makes me remember my ex brother in law, so immature my sister could not take him anymore.

Let's see if the finale gets better. I would like Min ho to grow, and come back to his: "I wish her the best", which would be a decent way to grow up, even if he is forcing himself to say so.

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" In RL I would never ever date a man with no relations... I would be afraid of what of an empty place he would be as a human being." - Wow, that's a bit harsh. While I understand where you're coming from, don't forget that there might be many valid reasons why a person doesn't have any friends and/or doesn't meet with family quite often. My friends left me when I was going through a severe depression where I couldn't leave my house for months. Now that I'm older and healthy it's very hard to make new true friends, not colleagues or acquaintances. Your comment made me think of "what of an empty place I am as a human being"... and I made a conclusion that it's better to be empty that to fake relationships just to fit a standard or be well received by other people. At least that is more comfortable and true to oneself.

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Sorry to hijack this thread, but did Dramabeans forget to post the recap for My Ajusshi episode 13? The little thing at the bottom of the page says that the next recap to be posted is My Ajusshi episode 14. Did I somehow miss the recap and where do I go to find it?

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You're right! I can't find the recap for ep13. It'll probably be posted soon.

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I'm happy for my ship but the writer did Min-ho dirty. I checked Asianwiki to see who's the writer and apparently there are three. They probably fought on what to do with Min-ho and this is the result.

Nam-woo, at first it was funny but they dragged it far too long. Poor puppy!

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This week's episodes were a bit dragging. I guess the writer ran out of plot. But why did you have to throw minho under the bus? He was doing so well. Can't we have a show where the leads are defined by something other than the love interest? Does his life revolve only around boyoung? NO. He had a life without her when they were not in contact. So why did you have to make him regress just because he didn't get the girl? If he's a victim of bad writing, then he has a lot of ground to cover if he has to make up with BY and be her friend again.
But if you're saying that it's his character, then is he really a good match for BY? I don't think so. Just like saya said, he's crosses his limits when he's pissed and that he does only with BY. Who's to say he won't behave like this in the future if he gets together with her?

And the sad thing is- he is a really good friend to NW and JY. He was respectful of dae bang. Heck, he's even a good son! When he said to BY previously that he knows his parents are disappointed with him and know it's because of his shortcomings, I related to him. I'm not saying his parents were right, but in our culture, parents have high expectations from their kids,and when they fail to live up to it, the parents obviously get frustrated. The norm here is that you should be as good as the neighbour's kid. Why? because their pride comes before their children. It's sad. But this is what happens in my country, or atleast the people I've seen. so the children kind of get used to all that negativity which comes with not being able to live upto the parent's expectations and even understand. So it just shows that he's a good kid,despite having been neglected by his parents in favour of his older brother.
That's why I'm disappointed - that he acts like a jerk only to BY. We have seen that he's a good guy and that's not because of his recent interactions with BY. He's a good guy to everyone else, just not to BY.

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As far as JW is concerned- why is everyone so bothered about his life? Is it really a bad thing that we don't know about his family and his friends? In real life, how many of us know about all of our acquaintances and colleagues family? how many of us have met their parents or siblings? Maybe a few close ones but not everybody. Or is it because we've gotten so used to knowing everything about our lead's lives in other dramas that we've such expectations? I know people can't relate to him because they don't know him...but isn't what we know enough? We know he's a nice guy, great at his job, A little standoffish but never outright disrespectful. Most important of all he treats his girl like she deserves to be treated.
Everyone has their own pace in relationships. He's an introvert. obviously it'll take him more time to do what other people would have done before. And I think BY entered into the relationship knowing all that. she's not bothered about it? So why are we? She'll go over to his house when it's the right time, she'll know about his family when it's the right time. Plus even if people want to see the other aspects of his life, it's too late. There's too little time to show us whatever it is we want to see. I know it's a wasted opportunity, But calling him a 2D character just because we're not satisfied with what we know is a bit too harsh IMO.

I apologise if I hurt anyone with my comment.

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I agree with you 1000%

If this is Mh's character, that means he's the kind of guy who's a decent person to everybody else accept for the girl he likes. Where everybody else gets to see his good side, and she only gets to see his good side when she agrees with him.

It's not that there aren't people like that, the abusive bfs and husbands, where everybody around them say: that was such a surprise, I thought he was such a nice guy. And if that's the kind of person Mh is, or could turn out to be, then the poem at the end says it all: it warns him that he is hurting the person he loves and becomes nasty and lashes out when he's around her.

That would be a really dark and very interesting territory for the writer to have veered into.

The problem is: I'm not sure I'm entirely buying that read of the situation. Maybe because he accepted By's hitting him with a pollack and with her bag previously in good grace? A little flash of anger then would have completely turned the story round and would have made this into quite a different story.

So many missed opportunities... sigh

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The thing is- he's always been extreme in his reactions towards BY. when he was hit unfairly in college by her- he didn't say anything because he wasn't bothered to salvage her friendship with her. I'm sure if he had said something, she would've apologised because that's the kind of person she is. He was either indifferent (like in the first 2 eps) or very sweet (when he started liking her) or downright cruel (this ep).whereas his relationships with the other characters is more or less balanced.

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In all seriousness, if the point of the drama turns out to be that BY was lucky not to go out with her college crush because he's got serious jealousy/anger issues, or that Mh identifies those issues in himself, works on them and does better next time round (in his next relationship) then the writer has done a good job.

But...I don't think that's where we're going, so it feels gratuitous and I'm not holding my breath.

*now I have to watch these two last episodes after all*

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I’m actually hating on the writers for the way these two eps panned out. Although Jae-wook and bo-young continue to be sweet (that “coz you’re so pretty” line though *swoon*) there’s no real conflict to up the ante for the remaining eps - the love triangle that could have been just fizzled out into nothingness and even the workplace shenanigans/life lessons lacked oomph . First of all:

1. Can’t believe they prolonged min-ho’s heart break right till the end of ep13 - he missed his timing eps ago, but they still did nothing to improve his character

2. I was willing to give him a fair chance until ep14 happened - the dude was being an ass, end of. The “jealousy” or some of the pettiness may have been cute if both the men were still vying for Bo-young’s love, but he behaved that way knowing Bo-young and Jae-wook are together and clearly very happy. His petiteness was nothing but a result of his own selfishness and the fact that he couldn’t stand seeing Bo-young happily in love with another man.

3. The preview, admittedly, is making me a little weary; had things worked out differently, then I’d be all up for the change in direction, but as of now, it’s too late for the winds to change, at least in a way which would retain my love for the show and its characters. What I do want though is for characters like Min-ho to show some real growth, and to change for the better, not as someone who claims to love Bo-young, but as a friend, and as someone who’s yet to prove his worth in the workplace.

Am I being too cynical?! Maybe I need to let the eps sink in more? Anyways, had to get that off my chest before I read the recap, for which I’m very thankful @saya

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I was thinking to myself "No wonder Gong Myung declined the role of Min Ho!" It would be deja vu if he took on this since his character also lost the girl in Drinking Solo.

The reason why I've always been on the Island of Neutrality is because I am not exactly sold on the romance in this show. The character I love most is Bo Young. She's the one who makes me smile and laugh. Those episodes where she fell in love and was so hilariously smitten were the highlights for me. I took a much longer time to warm up to Dr Ye but I am liking him more because of what is shown of him in the last few eps.

As for Min Ho, it's very hard to root for him. Yes, he has a change of heart and has gone to some lengths to do things for Bo Young but that's about all. Both BY and MH may be immature especially in the earlier episodes but Bo Young has never failed to impress me with the other aspects of her character whereas I can't say the same for MH.

It could be boiled down to the writing but there are also people in life like Min Ho. You can see the difference in character when placed in an adverse situation. Look at how Bo Young took the rejection from Dr Ye and compare it to Min Ho. I'm sure Min Ho isn't a bad guy, he just needs to consider others first before himself.

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I'm not as forgiving as BY when it comes to how MH treated her, idk how she let's it slide from the beginning.
When he brought up her past in front of JW, and again in the last ep when he was back to being mean.
Writer destroyed whatever growth he had in between.

JW & BY are getting along just fine, I like the peace.

But ok, there are 2 eps left, might as well finish it. Who knows maybe we'll get a cherry on top conclusion...

Thank you for the recap @saya ^^

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ALL POEMS FROM EPISODES 13-14

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(Ep. 13, Only Poem, 00:09:03)

“Us” by Lee Ji Hyun

You’re spring and I’m the flowers.
That’s why I can’t even see the cherry blossoms.

I’m spring and you’re the flowers.
That’s why you’re all that I can see.

We’re the flower fields
and we’re the spring.

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(Ep 13, Song, 00:52:42)

"Going Home," by Kim Yoon Ah.

On the way back home
I leave my heart to the setting sun.
And I think about the work that you do
and feel sad due to the countless thoughts.

Since there is no way of knowing
what will happen tomorrow
I can only embrace your back
and tell you that everything will be okay.

I feel like there is more that I can do for you
as I grow impatient
I feel sad for your heavy shoulders and long days.
I hope something good
happens to you tomorrow
because you deserve it
I hope you unload your burdens and become happy again
I earnestly pray for it.

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The song is actually longer than what the show uses.

("Going Home" Cont'd)

To you and me
this world is a cruel and a scary place
so come back to this place any time
you have a home, you have me.
I really hope tomorrow
something good is waiting for us
that a new sun will rise
that the thing we want the most will happen
I pray.

(Pop Dramatic/Lyrical Movement, Sangha).

P.S. I find the above cited transcription better than DramaFever's. You can find both the hyperlink for the transcription and video from the episode here. You can find what I assume to be the original MV here.

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(Ep. 14, First Poem, 00:20:20)

"Life is like an Installment Savings Account," by Kim Shi Tak.

Life is like an installment saving account,
Pay the principal, pay the interest
and if you miss the deadline, pay the overdue fees.

An installment savings account can be cancelled if it gets too overwhelming
but when life gets too exhausting, can we cancel it midway?

If we calculate the years we've lived and return the years left to live
are we able to cancel it?
Will we be able to get a cancellation refund?
Life is like a lifelong redeemable bond.

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(Ep. 14, Last Poem, 00:55:16)

"Lily Magnolia," by Do Jong Hwan

I was happy because I met you
and I also suffered because I met you.
When I tossed and turned in bed while hugging a body
that no longer had feelings for me
I felt flower petals falling on my head from above me.

In a garden where lily magnolias bloom
after the white magnolias wither away
The thought of lily magnolias blooming again
pained me a great deal.

As I watched the tree and flowers gradually part ways
it was difficult to stand beside the tree.
It's like watching yourself become a cruel person.

I was happy because I met you
and I also suffered for a long time because of you.

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Some may find this interesting and I hope I am not going to far out on a limb here.
From the little research I have done I believe the
Poet Do Jong-hwan is also the current Minister of Culture, Sports and Tourism for South Korea.
Interesting background. Here is a link at Korea.net where you can learn more about him and read his poem "Ivy":
http://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/Culture/view?articleId=139078

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All poems were transcribed by DramaFever.

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Is transcribed the correct word to use here?

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Yes, I think so. Thanks for sharing the poems. ^^

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Cool.
Np.

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Wakes up and sees 73 comments on the APAD OT 🙌

Eye Roll Worth Moments- Frustrations at all time high

Can't Min Ho at least keep his dignity? He literally did a 180 from being all like "let her be happy with whoever she wants" to throwing out the bracelet she got from Dr.Ye. It was so incredible rude for him to hit Bo Young with the car door accidentally and then not apologize/ worry when she was hurt and then throw the bracelet. It's as if the writers want him to be seen as extremely unhinged. Imagine if he was the second female lead (who usually get the incredibly bratty/selfish/crazy roles) everyone would find "her" such an incorrigible, inexcusable brat. I get he's projecting his anger towards getting sidelined and seemingly rejected onto her but if there's some half-assed redemption towards the end without any genuineness I'm going to regret ever rooting for him. He deserved it when BY lashed out at him for being so mean and call me cold hearted, but I felt nothing during his crying.

Things I like and honestly want more off (because it makes APAD more original) :

Dr.Park bonding with NW was brotherly and hilarious (even if they didn't wash their hands). When he found his solace in his family and twins I was like YESS- character growth done right! I remember hating him so much initially but can see why he's become so jaded.
Nam Woo finally burst out from his sadness bubble and I hope to see him get a full time job soon. When things took a worse turn however, I felt my helplessness rising along with theirs. Unfortunately, real life is not a rose tinted picture. It's filled with pitfalls and Dr.Park's wife getting fired is one such hurdle. It really sucks at your energy when you keep tripping after progress is made. Also, Dae Bang pulled at my heart strings. Death is inevitable in hospitals but when he put those peach juices inside I felt for him. Loosing patients is not easy.

I like how Joo Young is able to empathise with his patients and feel rewarded as a result of that. I feel like he's had the most constant and steady character development because he doesn't switch sides and is genuinely growing.

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Apart from his procrastination (which is having a really bad influence on me) , I like joo yong.
He and dae bang had a positive influence on each other. Even though he's indecisive , he has been a good senior and despite their slight disagreements joo yong respects him. Right now, these two are the only ones who are actually showing us real life hospital issues and how the staff deals with it everyday.

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Yes! I see procrastination as a very relatable flaw and am sure that he'll eventually outgrow it or at least learn to manage it. Joo Young was very boring initially but now I'm looking forward to his scenes which proves great chc growth. He's fun with the dorm trio, is rather quirky and is quick to learn from Daebang as a sunbae- both medically and emotionally (Eg. when he helped that old chief out with the machines). The romance aspect is loosing it's spark and I find the main chcs very bland now 😭. The radiologist stole the show for me because of the emotional peachy goodbye and the way their interacting.

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Joo Yong started out very cocky and egotistical even more so than Mean Ho ever since his first encounter with Bo Young ("Who does she think she is trying to hit on me?"), then to bowling teammates Min Ho and Nam Woo ("Don't acknowledge me at this hospital from now on."), and especially to Dae Bang sunbae ("College sunbae, my ass. His program was only three years, while mine was four."). But Joo Yong has progressively grown to recognize his flaws. Damn if his procrastination isn't relatable. Even though he has lover's spats with Nam Woo, Joo Yong genuinely cares for him. I am so glad the trio lives together, and it will be heartbreaking to see Min Ho and Nam Woo move out of the dorm when their training is over.

The radiologists never fail to tug at my heartstrings. I bawled my eyes out when Joo Yong left sticky notes on the X-ray machine for the chief. Dae Bang is too pure for this world, cleaning Harabeoji's house and refrigerating peach juice despite having a peach allergy. Today's memorable patient story was a bit pointless, though. Did Joo Yong ever end up remembering that woman?

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I didn't get the point of the "memorable patients" - it didn't have an emotional impact on me.

But Joo Yong has progressively grown to recognize his flaws. Damn if his procrastination isn't relatable. Even though he has lover's spats with Nam Woo, Joo Yong genuinely cares for him.
👏👏

Whilst Min Ho goes one step forward, 2 steps back *shakes head*

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Hi @panshel. That is a nice review of the character arc of Joo-yong.
(Great quotes, you would probably be a excellent witness in court!)
As you point out JY has shown a lot of personal growth. Remember early on when the writer stated looking into the characters' backstory JY's father was brought into the story. Often times that can be a mess but it turned out to be really sweet.
I can relate with his Dad in being a tech dinosaur myself. I remember laughing when JY tried to pooh pooh Dad's effort to get on instagram or something by saying "that's for young people" and I thought, right!

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Let's hope Joo Yong's procrastinating is a sign that he actually doesn't want to leave his radiologist job and become a professor - because otherwise it's a seriously bad influence on me too!

Like in Drinking Solo, I've come to like secondary characters more than the romance, i.e.: Rad Department guys and Nam Woo. I'm surprised to say I even like weasly Dr. Park now - despite knowing his flaws I can also see his good and funny side, and appreciate him for that.

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I was totally grossed out when Dr Park hadn't washed his hands and touched Nam Woo's mouth to stop him from talking.

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Yes it was so eww I would have slapped that hand away and washed my face repeatedly.

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Me too! Urgh!!

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I was just about to write that @cloggie thank you 😂

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I still love it. I understand the complains... the losing sparkle, MH being a jerk and how it bothers us, etc... I would have loved more gossip or patients or the possibility for Bo young to go abroad and dr. Ye saying: you should go. But still, even though what the writers are doing (mostly in ep 14) has been rather upsetting, I still love this show. Let's say it is different, and that is ok (in comparison with other shows). I hope they can keep up in the finale. Although there is the awful possibility that they destroy the rest of it... In dramaland it is not over until it's over.

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Saya, thank you for the recap. Argh! The writer should be sued for malpractice. Don’t even think of redeeming Min-ho. After the ATV ride, throwing her bracelet, and knocking her down, 😠😤🙄.
Just curious, what about Nam-woo’s girl, has she already fallen by the wayside? Give us some sort of closure. Somehow the writer used up all the magic when they wrote Bo-young’s character. Show could have been so much more with better writing.

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I'm pretty sure Park Cho Rong was a cameo, so Nam-woo’s girl is gone.

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Thank you for the weecap! Here goes my long winded rant about the show, so beware.

MEH.

The end.

Could've ended the show at 12 episodes once they go together. There is no real conflict or progression of story.

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😂😂😂

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Wow, I somehow missed this weecap and it's already at 100 comments. Thank you @saya! I was nodding along as I read. Ye Liner is also ok for me, slightly boring but totally RL goals.

For the finale: I wish to see Min Ho show a spark of maturity. He was at his lowest this episode - he sunk his own ship and character for me. So I hope he will at least finish the drama with the realisation that he can't lash out when things don't go his way. Unfortunately I know people like him in real life... but dramas are fiction, reality be danged. Show me character growth!

A cheer for the Radiology Department guys, who kept the show real this episode. JOO YONG - KIM DAE BANG, FIGHTING!! :)

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Thanks for the recap I agree on many things. One of the things I've always liked about Jae-wook and Bo-young is the respect and admiration that exists between them, and I appreciated more the respect that he showed to her from the beginning, both professionally and personally, because seeing him as he’s with people, distant and little awkward, I thought that this would come later, because generally that attitude is the rule in dramas. Initially he began to notice her for her good work, he recognized her and told her, he listens to her suggestions and opinions about work, and not enough, he rewards her, I really liked how he took her to eat, and he told her he had learned a lot from her and that he admired her, if that doesn’t motivate you to keep working well, I don’t know what it will do. And on a personal level, he’s a true gentleman, he’s so affectionate and attentive to her, always aware of the details and what she likes, he’s also very protective. He's really a darling, that's why I think she's the man she deserves. Maybe I'm the only one, but I don’t have any problems with their chemistry, I think they're adorable together, I don’t think the age gap between them is a big deal, he looks more mature than her, but the truth is that she looks really young, but if I'm not wrong she's going to turn 28 this year, so she's already close to 30, and he's 34, but I understand if someone has a problem with how they look together.

Random comment: I love Lee Joon-hyuk hands, I think he has beautiful hands, whenever he’s on the screen, I think, can they show his hands?, I hope this is not a sign of something strange in my personality...even so, I love his hands.

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About Min Ho, that boy is wrong in many things. He has absolutely nothing to do with BY love life. If he doesn’t want to accept that she likes Dr. Ye, it's his problem, but he doesn’t have to be bothering them or meddling in their relationship. She never gave the slightest sign that she liked him again, she never said that she didn’t like Dr. Ye anymore, any hope that he could have was created only in her mind, so he doesn’t have nothing to complain to her, he doesn’t have that right. If he wants to get angry with someone, he has to get angry with himself (for not having accepted her in the past, or at least confessing her feelings now to see if there was any opportunity), instead of tormenting others with his visceral and spoiled behavior. He can’t justify his rude attitude towards BY by saying that it's because she likes another person, this is a disturbing thought, I mean, if a person does’t like you, you're going to mistreat that person verbally and physically for this reason, that is simply wrong. And to be honest, that's not the only reason he acts like that, he's always bothered her, in the past, even before he realized that she really liked her, as Saya says he needs therapy, especially, because as it was proven, he can get physical when things bother him. Many people were surprised by his attitude in this episode, but this is not the first time he uses a kind of physical violence with her, he did it before, but in a different way, for fun maybe, in one of the first episodes, he made her fall down in front of Dr. Ye to embarrass her, so he wasn’t only aggressive with her because his feelings were hurt, but he was also aggressive with her because things were not going the way he wanted, that moment I thought, wow that's too low, I know that the whole scene was done with a funny touch, but I was transported to reality, and I told myself she could have been hurt, there were chairs there, she could hit her head, break a tooth, that was dangerous, who wants to be near a person who does that?. Again, as Saya said, I don’t know what were the intentions of the writer with this character, what is happening with him is bad writing?, Is he just like that ?, The truth is that he has been consistent in his attitude during the drama, he behaved better with her, but when things didn’t turn out the way he expected, he retreated back to the starting line. Maybe, the message they want to send with him is that being in love with a person is not enough to change your bad behavior, that you have to reconcile a lot of things to be able to change your attitude and be a better person, or if you are not a good person things will go wrong, I don’t know…:S...but I would like to know.

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Love your comment. True, so true. He made her fall not only once but twice, also when he took those pictures of her that he showed to dr. Ye at the museum. What are people thinking when shipping them?? This is a guy who would be nice to her only if things go well. He has never respected her.And respect and care go together.I have said it before, he was nice to her only when he realised he liked her. But that reason alone is not enough.

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Yes, that's right, he also made her fall at that moment. I've never found the reason why he bothered her so much when he can behave well with other people. I mean, if she likes him he annoys her, if she doesn't like him he annoys her too, what did she do to deserve that?, nothing, that's why I dislike her being treated that way. I was happy when Jae-wook asked him to treat her with respect, when he asked him to have manners, he expressed my wishes, for that, I loved him more.

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Right? Because he's not saying, 'as my girlfriend you have to treat her better,' he's saying that as an individual and as a workplace senior who is more experienced and knowledgeable than him, she ought to command his respect -- at the same time highlighting how the way Min-ho treated her was a reflection of the failure of his own manners. (Although at this point, I don't know if it's actually even fair to blame Min-ho for the way he's written, but if we're taking it at face value at least, that's how it is.)

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Exactly, as you say, he wasn’t like a tough boyfriend that demands respect for his girlfriend, but politely, as a person with good manners, and a workplace senior, he asked him to have manners and stop being disrespectful to her, who is also a workplace senior. And yes, the issue of the writing brings the question: who do we blame for his behavior?

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it's really hard to care lol just incredibly boring and kinda dumb (the couple and getting mad a girl doesnt like him back??)

it's hard to continue when the romance makes me want to sleep and almost every person is so dumb

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