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What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: Episode 15

Just because Young-joon and Mi-so are in love, doesn’t mean their struggles are over, because romance is tricky enough to navigate when you don’t also work together. And Young-joon still hasn’t achieved his goal of convincing Mi-so to marry him — he’s still trying to get an answer after four failed proposals. He’s going to have to make this last one count, but he’s all out of ideas, and this might be his last chance.

 
EPISODE 15 RECAP

After telling Young-joon that she’s decided to continue working for him, Mi-so takes him inside for ramyun. She says it’s always been her dream to spend the evening with her husband after work, and Young-joon tells her that he wants to be her husband and make that dream come true.

They don’t know that Mi-so’s father is in her bed under the covers, listening to Young-joon’s impromptu proposal. When Young-joon moves in to kiss Mi-so, Dad jumps up screaming at the top of his lungs: “I object!!”

Mi-so asks why Dad isn’t at the hospital, and he says that he was released but there’s no water at his house. He wants to talk to Young-joon man-to-man, and Young-joon looks back at Mi-so in desperation as he’s literally dragged outside.

Dad takes him to a pojangmacha, then tells him that he’s very disappointed in Young-joon’s unromantic proposal (he said he’d eat ramyun with her every day even if it filled his body with MSG). Young-joon says he only meant they should live simply and happily. Dad orders him to propose again, and not to skimp on the romance this time, warning Young-joon that he’ll be watching him carefully.

Dad starts pouring the drinks, and soon Young-joon is blearily thanking him for bringing Mi-so into the world. Young-joon impresses Dad with how much detail he knows about Mi-so, like that she loves mackerel but doesn’t eat it ever since she got a bone stuck in her throat, or that she no longer eats spicy food when she’s stressed. Ha, I’m dying at the way Young-joon’s eyes are blinking at different rates of speed.

When Young-joon reveals that he knows the details of Dad’s failed business and ill-advised personal loan, Dad slurs that his family is poorer than Young-joon imagined. Dad asks if Young-joon still likes Mi-so, and if he’s confident his feelings won’t change, and Young-joon reassures him that that will never happen. Dad yells that he passes and officially appoints Young-joon his son-in-law — if he proposes to Mi-so properly.

Mi-so worries when she can’t reach Young-joon by phone, so she goes out to wait in front of her building. She’s shocked to see Dad and Young-joon shuffling home arm-in-arm, crooning their love for each other. Mi-so overhears Dad say that he doesn’t care if Young-joon is rich as long as he treats her well, though it’s nice that he happens to be rich, hee.

She reels at the stench of alcohol accompanying them, but when she snaps at Dad for drinking at his age, Young-joon barks at her not to speak to his father-in-law that way. It’s a mistake, as she turns on him to retort that he’s got a meeting tomorrow.

Dad stage-whispers that Mi-so scares him sometimes, and Young-joon answers that she scares him all the time. They suffer a fit of giggles, then Dad says he’s going inside, leaving it to Mi-so to call a cab for his son-in-law.

Mi-so parks Young-joon on a bench and calls Yoo-shik to pick him up, then chastises him for drinking so much with his low alcohol tolerance. Barely conscious, Young-joon tells Mi-so sweetly that he loves her, melting her anger instantly.

He says that he was so happy when he saw her nine years ago, even though she didn’t recognize him, and that he thinks he’s loved her ever since then. Softly petting her hair, he adds with a smile that he will make her happy for the rest of her life, and that because of her, he’ll be happy for the rest of his life.

He says again that he loves her, then falls asleep and topples over onto her shoulder. Smiling, Mi-so hugs him and pats him while he sleeps.

Young-joon wakes in his own bed the next morning, mostly dressed and wondering what happened last night. He frantically hopes he didn’t embarrass himself in front of Mi-so’s father, but even his brilliant brain can’t remember much. He’s feeling pretty hung over and nauseated on the ride to work, and he begs his upset stomach not to ruin the dignified image he’s so carefully cultivated.

The office team look like sad little puppies when Mi-so arrives at work. They have a little ceremony to wish her goodbye, singing a song and giving her a plaque to show their appreciation for her years of hard work. Feeling terrible, Mi-so tells them that she’s not leaving after all, and they burst into excited screams and make her pinky swear that she’ll never quit again.

Ji-ah belatedly realizes that if Mi-so isn’t leaving, that might leave her without a job, since she was to be Mi-so’s replacement. Mi-so says that it’s because Ji-ah lightened her workload that she was able to get some of her own time back, so she doesn’t want anything to change. When reminded that Ji-ah and Se-ra defended her against gossiping coworkers, Mi-so invites the two ladies to dinner tonight.

Mi-so brings Young-joon some hangover soup, though she shoots eye-daggers at him for getting drunk in the first place. He wisely avoids eye contact, and meekly claims that he sometimes worries that his perfection might be intimidating to others. Mi-so accuses him of saying this just because he got so drunk, but he insists he got drunk on purpose to showcase his flaws, hee.

Mi-so reminds him that he’s a company owner, but he says that first, he’s a man who will soon be a husband, so it was only right that he obey his father-in-law-to-be. She asks curiously what they talked about, but Young-joon smirks that it’s a secret.

That doesn’t stop him from running to Yoo-shik to tell him that he has to propose to Mi-so. Yoo-shik says that all he has to do is rent a restaurant and buy fancy champagne, but Young-joon says he already did that once and failed.

Ditto for Yoo-shik’s idea of renting the amusement park, so Yoo-shik suggests he just fire off a proposal in an unguarded moment. Yep, already been done.

Young-joon asks Yoo-shik how he proposed to his wife, hoping for inspiration. Yoo-shik tells him that he staged a proposal under the Eiffel Tower in Paris, but Young-joon doesn’t like that idea since the marriage didn’t last.

Still, it’s the best idea he’s got, so he tries to think of another romantic spot for a proposal. He decides on Las Vegas, and plans the whole trip himself.

While Se-ra is making copies, Cheol sends the copy machine a command to print “I love you.” Se-ra loudly announces that she’s going to the roof for fresh air, and Cheol escapes to follow her with an excuse that he’s calling his mother. They think they’re so sneaky, but the whole office knows they’re “secretly” dating, ha

They notice that Gwi-nam is the only one uninterested in the office scandal and ask if he’s dating anyone. Ji-ah looks dismayed when he says that he’s dating… his work. Of course.

Young-joon tells Mi-so to cancel his appointments next week, because he’s taking her to Vegas. She says firmly that there’s no way he can leave work now, plus it would only make the gossip about them worse. When she tells him she’s going out with the girls tonight, Young-joon gets huffy but says he doesn’t care, when he obviously cares very much that his proposal plans just got shot down.

Over drinks, Ji-ah and Se-ra push Mi-so for details about her relationship with Young-joon. They scream excitedly when she tells them that Young-joon fell in love first, then Mi-so changes the subject to ask about Se-ra’s hero. Se-ra simpers that they’ve gotten very physical, but Mi-so stops her to ask Ji-ah if she’s seeing anyone.

Ji-ah admits sadly that there’s someone she likes, but he’s only interested in working. Se-ra advises her to be more aggressive and make him notice her.

Young-joon turns to the internet for proposal ideas, but he deems the path-of-candles idea too childish, and the Love Actually-inspired proposals too wasteful of time and paper. He checks his phone for a message from Mi-so, and wonders what she’s up to.

The ladies are getting pretty drunk, though Mi-so tries her best to hold onto her composure. She staggers off to the restroom in a cloud of wobbly dignity, and when her phone rings with a call from Young-joon, Ji-ah and Se-ra decide to answer it. They scream at him that Mi-so is completely drunk so he needs to pick her up.

She’s soooo adorably happy to see him when he shows up, and invites him to join them. Se-ra decides that since he’s here as Mi-so’s boyfriend, they’ll just go ahead and call him by name, and the look on his face (and Mi-so’s!) is priceless.

They ask him what he likes about Mi-so, and he says she’s pretty. They steal his watch and wallet so he can’t leave, and Young-joon turns to Mi-so for help, but she’s laughing too hard to be of any assistance.

Se-ra asks Young-joon when they’re getting married, guessing that it will be the most romantic proposal ever. Young-joon looks cornered, but as Se-ra and Ji-ah start guessing at proposal tactics, he gets some ideas — until Mi-so cringes that renting a jet and a private island would be a waste of money.

Young-joon practically carries Mi-so home as she cheerfully admits she’s never been this drunk before. Then she decides she’s mad that in all the years she’s poured him drinks, he’s never offered her one and just made her drive him home. But she grins that she still likes him, and thanks him for picking her up.

He tells her to be impressed by his face instead, and she sighs that he’s toootally handsome, and a good singer, too. She bellows in his ear that when he sang her that lullaby, she was very moved and slept like a baby.

She wakes in the morning with the mother of all hangovers, and unfortunately she remembers a lot of her silly behavior last night. When she gets to work, Se-ra and Ji-ah run over, worried about the way they acted with Young-joon at the bar. LOL, they still have his wallet and watch.

They head upstairs to return his things, but he’s not as angry as they expect, although he does say he hopes never to see that again. He dismisses them and summons Mi-so by crooking a finger at her and smirking evilly. He keeps his “angry boss” face on as he tells her to sit and offers her some hangover soup.

Mi-so nervously gives him the same “I’m just too perfect” excuse he tried on her, but he just sneers and tells her not to do it again — but not because she’s his secretary, “Because you’re my woman.” He relaxes and admits he’s worried about her health, though he does say she’s awfully cute when she’s drunk. True, that.

Ji-ah heads to the break room to guzzle water, and Gwi-nam notes that she drank a lot last night. She asks how he knows, and he’s surprised that she forgot… something. He says he even has it on video, so she grabs his phone, and she’s horrified to see herself drunkenly begging him to date her.

Gwi-nam gallantly says that she was obviously joking because she drank so much, but Ji-ah groans that it wasn’t a joke. She bravely confesses to having feelings for him since he brought her those tomatoes and helped her glue her shredded notes, or maybe since he told her his sad life story.

She looks up at him hopefully, but he says they’ll talk later, making her think that he’s going to accept her confession since he could have just rejected her quickly.

When they do have time to talk, Gwi-nam says that Ji-ah is a nice person who keeps secrets, and has helped him a lot. But he says he can’t return her feelings because of his plan to work hard and buy a house, so he can’t afford to be distracted.

He adds that if she dated him, she’d have to give up a lot of the nice things she enjoys like her daily caramel macchiato. But when she says she’s be fine with that, Gwi-nam says that he doesn’t want to make her live like that.

Ji-ah retreats to the stairwell to cry a little, so she doesn’t know that Gwi-nam sits on that bench for a long time, sighing regretfully.

Young-joon’s dad finds his mom wearing an expensive face mask from France, claiming that it will make her look like she’s in her 20s again. He laughs, saying that she’d have to travel back forty years in time, and calls her greedy. Mom snaps that if she were greedy she’d never have married him.

Young-joon is back in Yoo-shik’s office, upset that he still hasn’t thought of a good proposal because he’s so stressed about it. He forbids Yoo-shik to even say the word “proposal” to him, so Yoo-shik has fun calling him a pro…fessional who like pro…baseball until Young-joon threatens to fire him.

Having heard the news through an employee, Mom calls Young-joon to the house to ask if it’s true that he’s dating Mi-so. He apologizes for not telling her sooner and says that he wants to marry Mi-so. Mom nods seriously, but when Young-joon reminds her that she likes Mi-so, she says that she’s worried because Sung-yeon likes her, too.

After so many years of hatred, and with their reconciliation so new, Mom is scared that jealousy over Mi-so could tear the brothers apart again. Young-joon hangs his head, but Sung-yeon, who was listening, tells Mom that she doesn’t need to worry. He explains that he was drawn to Mi-so because he thought they shared the kidnapping trauma, but that Mi-so was actually with Young-joon, so this is the natural conclusion.

Later, Sung-yeon tells Young-joon that he’s seeing a therapist, and that it’s really helping. He asks if Young-joon has proposed to Mi-so yet, guessing from Young-joon’s expression that he hasn’t. He warns him not to copy others or show off when he does it, but says to focus on Mi-so and what she likes, and what he wants to give her.

Young-joon gives it some thought that night, then calls Mi-so to ask her to come over right now. When she arrives (OMG that dress!), she finds a path of candles guiding her to a table full of caramels, then on to another table where a stuffed dog and mini Hardworking Cow sit beside a notepad that says, “Mi-so-yah, I prepared a classic proposal, because I am a classical man. Who prepared it? I did (he’s making a cow pun). I am willing to become childish for you. Come in, My Woman.”

An arrow points Mi-so inside, where Young-joon is playing piano in front of a beautiful water wall. When he sees her, he sings her a song about how she makes him feel: “My darling, come into my arms and close your eyes, and share a love dream with me.”

Mi-so is crying by the time his song is over (so am I, and so are you, admit it), and Young-joon says that if his lullaby made her sleep so well, then he plans to sing to her for the rest of his life. He says that he never asks anyone’s permission, but now he’s asking her permission, as politely and romantically as he can.

He kneels in front of her and holds out a music box with a ring inside, asking simply, “Will you marry me?” Mi-so nods, unable to speak. Young-joon stands to put the ring on her finger, then jokes that it only took five proposals to get an answer out of her, ha.

Mi-so reminds him that she proposed first, when she was five, making them both laugh. Young-joon looks at her like she’s the only important thing in his universe and tells her he loves her, and when Mi-so returns his love, he finally kisses her.

Some time later, Yoo-shik opens his front door to find Young-joon standing there, looking thunderous. Yoo-shik asks what Young-joon is doing here, and Young-joon says darkly, “Why do you think? Kim Mi-so… what’s wrong with her??” We cut to Mi-so, who says in frustration to both her family and Young-joon’s, “I can’t get married like this!”

COMMENTS

Oh no, they can’t break up now! Actually, I can’t wait to see what goes wrong as Young-joon and Mi-so grow closer to getting married, because I have a feeling it’s going to be a blowout of epic proportions. I’m guessing here, but there are still a few power dynamic issues when it comes to Mi-so and Young-joon figuring out how their relationship works at the office, and an impending wedding is only going to make those issues stand out more. I’m betting Mi-so has something to put her foot down about, and Young-joon isn’t going to like it one bit. But he’ll give her what she wants in the end, because he’s a smart man who loves his lady, and ultimately he knows what’s good for him.

I think it was fair of Mi-so’s father to request that Young-joon give Mi-so a proposal that she deserves. Young-joon’s first (wait, I mean his fourth) proposal was sweet and definitely sincere, but even if he doesn’t know the details of their shared past, I think that Dad could sense that this is the only wedding Mi-so will ever get and wants it to be perfect and romantic for her. And since Young-joon has been known to pull out all the stops before to propose — several times now — it wasn’t too much to ask him to plan a grand proposal that would knock Mi-so off her feet. I mean, technically they’ve been promised since they were kids and pinky-swore on it, and that time it was Mi-so who did the proposing, so it was the least Young-joon could do to give her a fantastically memorable event that would blow her away.

I thought it was wonderful, and a nice tie-up to the brothers’ story, that it was Sung-yeon who inspired Young-joon to the perfect proposal. It makes sense, him being a romance author and all, that he would know that a woman wants a proposal tailored to her love and not just copying what everyone else does. The proposal was perfect, a mashup of cheesy internet proposals intertwined with Mi-so’s favorite things, like caramels and Hardworking Cow and Young-joon’s lovely singing voice. He certainly rose to the occasion, and Mi-so will never forget that moment.

Not that everyone is so happy… I feel so bad for Ji-ah getting rejected by Gwi-nam, though I have to give him credit for doing it kindly and explaining his reasons. I don’t really understand why they can’t date and she just use her own money to buy her own caramel macchiatos like she already does, but at least Gwi-nam was honest that he’s just not in that place in his life right now. But this is a rom-com, and he looked pretty dejected at having to turn her down, so I won’t be surprised if Gwi-nam caves at the prospect of losing Ji-ah for real. I don’t want him to give up his life plans, because it’s a good, responsible plan, but I can see them coming to a compromise if suddenly two incomes are involved.

I don’t want this drama to be over (I never want to see Park Seo-joon go), but I can’t wait for the finale, it’s going to be so fun. I hope we end with a wedding, but I’ll be happy if it ends just with Young-joon and Mi-so together as they should be, both at home and at work, and with everyone’s romances neatly tied up in bright sparkly rainbow-colored ribbons. This is a show that can pull that off without coming across as cheesy or unrealistic, so come on Show, give us what we want!

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What a lovely proposal! I would have cried buckets while walking down and listening to PSJ singing! Is the song part of the OST or an old song?

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I love Park Seo Joon and this proposal was such a treat just to hear him sing :D I sure hope it's part of the OST, I want it on my itunes!

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An old song. You In My Arms by Yoo Jae Ha.

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thank you! But strangely, or not really, I like PSJ's version best! His voice is so sweet and soothing, it's really perfect as a goodnight lullaby!

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I like NCT's Haechan's version best.

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PSJ singing and playing the piano.. Who can say No?

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Puppies and kittens still playing, ho-hum. /s
*fidgeting and drumming fingers*

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Each of them getting drunk was so fun to see. And the mornings after!!! 😂

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Drunken aegyo is the best ♥♥♥

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The more I think about it, the more I don’t buy the main couple of Young Joon and Mi So. Their relationship isn’t based on honesty and respect; they lie to each other and hide their true feelings to ‘protect’ each other. They both come across as being shallow and I still don’t buy that they wouldn’t have mental and physical repercussions of their childhood trauma. I’m gutted saying that because I love Park Seo Joon as an actor but I just can’t like this character or this couple.

Now, Gwi Nam and Ji Ah on the other hand is a great example of the kind of couple I cheer for. They are both honest with each other, even when it’s painful! Ji Ah had the courage to confess her feelings, and Gwi Nam respected her enough to give her confession merit. He was honest and thoughtful in his response even though it hurt. I have a feeling Ji Ah won’t let it go at that however, which is exactly what I would expect for two friends who have grown as close as they have. These two come across as being way more mature than Young Joon and Mi So, I'm sorry to say!

I could easily ditch Young Joon and Mi So just to watch Gwi Nam and Ji Ah. I would love to see more of them; these two will be hard to say goodbye to!

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Gwi Nam never apologized to Ji Ah for being an asshole. "I grew up poor" is not an excuse. The writers redeemed him entirely too fast.

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In that case, Young Joon was redeemed way too early also for lying to his family and Mi So for 9 years :P

Gwi Nam helping Ji Ah with the shredded notes was his apology, in a way. It certainly felt like one to me.

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It is not the childhood trauma that is the real basis for their love. It is the last nine years that they have spent growing together.

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I don't think I said that the trauma is the basis for their love, what I mean is they are far too well adjusted for having been through that. And I don't think the 9 years they spent together really count considering Young Joon was lying to Mi So the entire time. That doesn't feel like a healthy basis for love.

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I just gotta say, the sound effects were just spectacular this episode. There could have been just one episode of them with each head turn and eye movement.

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The main OST - It's You - gives amazing depth for each scene. so lovely

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So much cute so much sugar and caramel and coffe macchiato....damn these kids gave me diabetes! I have never been the kind of person to stalk a celebs personal life but can they PLEASE get married in real life! Imagine all the pretty babies they will have *sigh*

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Lots of cute moments! I love all the drunken moments, and especially MS getting drunk after having scolded YJ the day before for getting drunk. I was really alarmed though by YJ's proposal ideas since they did not fit MS at all (come on, dude, you know her better than her father!) and I was finding the "have to come up with a proposal" thing a little too dragged out that by the time the perfect proposal arrived, I was sort of done. I love how the episode ended, and how it woke me up and got me excited for episode 16. I knew it was going to be pretty innocuous, but I enjoy how it sort of bookended the ended up episode 1 (What is wrong with secretary kim?)

Yoo-shik and his use of PRO was gold.

And I'm glad Ji-ah still has a job!

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Dad could sense that this is the only wedding Mi-so will ever get and wants it to be perfect and romantic for her.

If this were America that wouldn't be an issue. Just keep having weddings until you get one right :)

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I love this show so much...

Young Joon and Mi So have come so far with each other, learning to live their own lives while still being able to maintain a life together. I love that Mi So was able to find some girlfriends to be chatty with. And it is a small moment that could easily be missed... but I love how when the three girls are getting drunk and talking about their respective love lives, they don't push the other to a level of discomfort or keep one of another from talking about what they want to talk about. They were completely supportive of one another, which is something that Mi So lacked with her other friends.

And Young Joon, has come leaps and bounds with trying to figure out what Mi So wants instead of what he thinks is best for her. And I love the small moment he had with Sung Yeon and his mom. The second that his mom said she was worried about Sung Yeon's reaction to Young Joon and Mi So dating, you could see Young Joon shrinking back into this "being considerate" state of mind. I loved how up front Sung Yeon was and how quickly he put an end to it. I am also happy that Young Joon was able to have a big bro little bro conversation with Sung Yoon for probably the first time in his life and that Sung Yeon gave great advice.

I also love how the show has addressed mental health, because honestly, all of the conflict in this drama has really stemmed from each of the character's versions of mental drama and how they have chosen to deal with it. I love how Sung Yeon openly said he was getting better at coping through therapy, and that it wasn't some thing he just snapped backed to reality and became better. No... this drama shows that both sides actually have to want to work to make things better and it takes time.

I also have to admit that for a large part of the drama I did not understand the point of Gwi Nam's character, but over the last two weeks I've grown to appreciate him so much more and Ji Ah as well.

And can I just say... everyone in this drama was so adorable when drunk. The proposal and Young Joon's drunk confession was probably the cutest and romantic thing ever.

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So he tells her to come over right away. To his home, I assume. Does his home really have the huge ocean pool that we see in the background of the proposal pics ??

I figure they wanted a dramatic backdrop and rented the best-looking pool in Korea for a night.

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I do not understand this house at all. It's the Secret Garden house, right? The house is at water level, with a pond out front. So I'm primed for that. And yet there is some kind of outdoor stairway somewhere leading down to a random piano-waterfall room we have never seen before in the drama. The rich really are different...

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Thanks to our friends at koreandramaland.com, we know that these buildings are actually all at the same location, Maiim Vision Village, so technically the proposal location is on the same grounds that his house is on, but they're not the same building. https://koreandramaland.com/listings/maiim-vision-village-drama-house/

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This location is like the Home of all k-drama chaebols! LOL.

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Whutt!!! I didn't know Park Seo Joon could sing like so!! *heart palpitations*

We need a HOW TO BE A YOUNG JOON handbook.

Was I the only one who thought after-morning-girls-night-out got treated like impudent students by Principal Lee Young Joon?
This scene reminded me of the Principal Office scene in Captain Underpants. Haha!
I loved how the girls dissed him! Can we take that scene as Mi So's bachelors night? Let's.

Glad someone is getting the treatment he needs, if only they made it that he was seeing MS sister (the psychiatrist) and he fell for her as well ('cause that sister is cute, the other one has a sunny smile).

Annnd we're back where we started. What Is Wrong With Secretary Kim? (Hint: Preview) *floating hearts*

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He’s always sang an ost for his previous dramas

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Ryanglass, please check out PSJ's rendition of OST in A Witch's Romance You'll love it. He also sang for his other kdramas, but I personally like that in AWR.

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That's always been my favorite one, too. Such a pretty song, and his voice isn't strong, but it's got such a sweet soft quality to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXtKEIkA4o

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Oh 🤗 So squeeful!!!❣️

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Unpopular Opinion: I don't think Park Seo Joon can sing. He always sings OSTs for his dramas, but in my opinion, he sings like an average person. To my untrained ear, he sounds out of tune and strains his high notes.

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That is super unpopular with me, all my morning alarms are set with PSJ OST songs 😍

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to be fair to both the commentor and Park Seo Jin : He has an untrained voice, it doesn't drip honey like Hwang Chi Yeul or Sung Si-kyung, BUT he can hold a tune and I think what makes his OST songs work is because he sings with such sincerity and earnestness, you can't help but think of the characters he played in those dramas and swoon. :)

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wish they'd stop hiring singers as actors making actors sing. there's no need for mediocrity when the korean entertainment industry is brimming with talent.

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Ehm! i thought he needed a bit of vocal training as well, it was surprisingly good, but not the best *dodges from @bbstl loaded 🔫*

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Hahaha of course not! His voice timbre (speaking as well) is just right for me, that's all. I do think the proposal song is his weakest effort but that made sense to me as it (and the lullaby) are actually a character singing. Young Joon isn't supposed to be a trained singer. Even if he's perfect in all things, we know he can't grill meat, either 🤣

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Thanks for cracking me up @bbstl.
I miss WWWSK already.
Do you mind me asking, what are you watching next?

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Hey @ryanglass! I'm currently watching Life on Mars and Mr Sunshine and finished Greasy Melo but am not sure about anything else among the latest premieres 🤔 What are you watching next?

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Hi hi @bbstl I'm watching My ID Is Gangnam Beauty which is jaw dropping gorgeous and I'm trying to watch Thirty But Seventeen, not sure I've got enough reasons to stick with the last one till the end...yet.

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In the end it was his older brother who came through for him when he needed help figuring out the proposal. And it makes logical sense- he is, after all, Morpheus, the writer of love stories. Perhaps he will be an even better writer after the psychological journey he has just gone through- his novels will be better grounded and more profound. It would do him a world of good if his parents and his brother would look him straight in the eye and tell him how proud they are to have a great writer in the family, and for his dad to tell him how proud he is of him for becoming a great success on his own- and on his own terms. The praise would in fact be well-deserved- and go a long way towards removing his resentment of his brother. And remember- he has a home in France to go back to. I am picturing a nice, elegant flat in Paris- or maybe a modest chateau out in the French countryside. If this family’s story were to continue a big part of it would have to revolve around the inevitable culture clash when he marries a smart, elegant, cultured French woman.

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I really liked Lee Tae-Hwan this episode. And 😮 they actually mentioned that he’s in therapy and sees a psychiatrist! I’m happy, that’s all I needed. Hopefully, the while family follows suit.

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“Morpheus” what kind of pen name is that really? Sounds dark and mysterious...

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Morpheus is the Greek god of Dreams.

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You just gave me so much insight into the movie The Matrix with that😁

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“Greek god of Dreams”? well now that is really something!

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If all of us could just have writers to make us spout out swoony monologues while drunk! That was so sweet. And my favorite scene was the males bonding over how scared they are of Mi-so! What a fun father-in-law, son-in-law relationship that would be. And the proposal was just cringy enough to be adorable. Loved it. This was my favorite episode so far!

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[1] PSJ played drunk really really well. One of my favourite scenes.
[2] Can someone please tell me how Young-joon was able to prep that proposal in a matter of minutes? He did say for her to come now.
[3] I respect Gwi-nam. As lollypip said, combined incomes can make things much easier.
[4] I don't want this drama to be over either @lollypip!

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Re: your No. 2
I've noticed that this show has an amazingly elastic sense of time after work ends, say maybe after about 7 or so? Like, look at how much happened in ep 14 when MiSo arrived at the dress salon after dark; they had Coffee, an argument, a walk, started a pizza, she had beers and then managed to rassle up the design house to get the dress and accessories, have her hair and makeup done and get on out to YJ's house before his bedtime. Dang!
So it was the same kind of elastic time that got the thousand candles lit and laid, tables up and clothed/candled/flowered, acquired the stuffed toys and caramels, prepared the flip pad, learned the song, changed clothes, while she had plenty of time to change into the best dress yet and haul out to his house.
Super-stretchy time! It made me laugh, definitely.

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I thought that it was ridiculously out of whack time wise, until I realized that just because the scene after his talk with his brother was him calling Mi So and telling her to come over “right now, did not mean the two events immediately followed one another. In retrospect, it was obvious that Young Joon made all the preparations, and only made the phone call to Mi So to immediately come to his house when everything was set up. Actually showing him set everything up would have been tedious, a waste of screen time, and anticlimactic for the actual proposal.

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Makes sense. :)

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Did anyone else notice the ring disappear from her finger a second after Young-joon put it on?? looool

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Yes, that was odd. Where did it go, or is it custom to just bring it back out again at the wedding?
But I liked that they didn't feel it necessary that she have a giant rock that would look dumb on her hand and be awkward to wear in daily life. Surprisingly practical!

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I also noticed YJ’s ankle scar disappeared too. Not that its the most important thing, but I always thought the scar was a pain point in the drama.

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Oh no, did that happen? LOL ooops!

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Me too, in Episode 12 during their foot bath.

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So Young-joon's mother remained horrible to the end. The emotional scars that both of her son's have can be directly attributed to the poor decisions made by the parents. From the flashbacks we were shown, it never seemed that Sung-yeon intentionally abandoned Young-joon (and he certainly never expected him to be kidnapped nor did he assist the kidnapper in any way) so I can understand his mental breakdown when accused of doing so. But at least he is now getting the therapy that he should have received year ago if his parent had approached the problem head-on instead of the pretense that they put both of their sons through.

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“The emotional scars that both of her son's have can be directly attributed to the poor decisions made by the parents.”
Hate to burst your bubble but, there is no perfect parenting anywhere, no handbook, no formula.
Did you notice how young a mom her character was then? Yes they made a not-so-good decision, but ain't that all part of living? (sorta, it's a drama here)
And they apologized repeatedly, some never apologized for any slight whatsoever.

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He most definitely ditched him on purpose. That was made clear when he insisted he stay behind even when he didn't want to go. It was also made clear when the show literally had him stand in the house and cry about intentionally putting his brother in that situation. Then later explain that it was his guilt at intentionally putting his brother in that situation that made him rewrite history. The character had a reason to rewrite history, there's no sane reason for any of us to do so.

Also. Mom's "what about your brother" actually seemed out of character for me.

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<It was also made clear when the show literally had him stand in the house

One of the most non-sensical parts of the drama (admittedly, of quite a few). Which parent / police woud let a minor – preteen at that – visit the scene of a crime? Like even if they needed him as a witness to confirm something (which they didn't, because he didn't actually see anything of the kidnapping), they could have shown him carefully shot photographs that blocked out anything to disturbing. But, no, they were like giving him a tour of a museum or haunted castle, "So this is were X hung herself to hunt the inhabitants of the place for centuries".

In the end I couldn't even hate the brother for anything he did, because he was royally let down by all the adults in his life that it's no wonder he was as messed up as he was...

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She was not horrible at all- and in fact her reaction to the news of their dating was a perfect illustration of the truth that the emotional scars are really still there to some extent, even if the matter has finally been dealt with in a healthier fashion. A parent of adult children still worries about them. Fortunately older brother could step in immediately to assuage her understandable fear. That he does so is the best evidence that his therapy is working.

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I actually thought the unforgivable act the mother committed was to call Young Joon over to express her concern that his relationship with Mi so would be damaging to his brother and their repaired relationship, because his brother also liked her. Knowing what she now knows about the emotional pain his previous sacrifice caused him, the insensitivity and cluelessness of her implication that he might consider setting aside his own happiness, yet again, for his brother’s well being was actually shocking to me, and made me loathe her.

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"He dismisses them and summons Mi-so by crooking a finger at her and smirking evilly. He keeps his 'angry boss' face on as he tells her to sit and offers her some hangover soup.

Mi-so nervously gives him the same 'I’m just too perfect' excuse he tried on her, but he just sneers and tells her not to do it again — but not because she’s his secretary, 'Because you’re my woman.'"

Aargh, THIS is why Mi So should not remain Young Joon's secretary! I cringed *so hard* during this scene. She is not on an equal footing with him.

The show meant to set up parallel scenes of both of them getting drunk and then being scolded by the other - but she was sooo nervous about his reaction, as if he were not her fiance but only her boss (whom she depends on for her livelihood) and he was about to fire her. Why does she not internalize her equal status with him? Is is just too confusing? (I think it is.) And if she can't, she should either not work for him, or not be involved with him romantically.

And why shouldn't she be able to get drunk occasionally? Who is he to tell her not to? She only scolded him in this episode because it was the night before a big meeting he had to attend.

He, on the other hand, is concerned for her health? The one and only time she's been drunk in 9 years?

After all, as she said earlier, there were many nights over the years where she could never drink because she had to be in attendance to his drunken self, as his designated driver. Grrrr...

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Other than this, there were some very cute scenes. (I actually really loved the scene where she got drunk and was laughing so helplessly.) But this morning-after one where she was so nervous stuck out to me like a big sore thumb.

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That scene made me cringe as well. Mi So approached him so timidly as if she's a teenager getting caught coming home late by her dad. Seriously, how old is she? I find her really immature as a character and this scene solidified that. I also think she was too hard on Young Joon for drinking as well, even if he did have a meeting in the morning, he's a grown man and can make his decisions and live with the consequences!

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You're right, they're both grown people, so why the scolding? I think these scenes are supposed to demonstrate the K-drama trope that if you are worrying about someone of another gender outside your family, you have romantic feelings for them. (Otherwise you'd be indifferent.)

But to me, the scene where Mi So scolded Young Joon was cute because in their drunken state these two grown men were confessing to being frightened of her, which is clearly absurd on multiple levels in a patriarchal and Confucian society. (It's so absurd they're both giggling about it.) They're both her elders, and one is her father, the other is her husband-to-be and her boss.

And that's why the other scene seemed so tone deaf to me: Young Joon is literally the boss of Mi So, and she was so apprehensive when she approached him. It didn't read as "cute" to me. :(

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I saw that scene differently, I saw as her being too embarrassed to face him after she had scolded him for the very same behavior the day before.

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Wow, thanks for your reply! That had not occurred to me and would be a big improvement, for sure. I did see a bit of embarrassment, but also more timidity.

So you think it was pure embarrassment, and not a confusion of roles (secretary/boss vs. two people in a more equal love relationship)?

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Exactly. She basically got so drunk she had a black out, woke up in bed wondering how she got there, on a work night, just as he had. Each scolded the other. Really, it was a mirror image, although he had the excuse of trying to keep up with/impress his future father in law.

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I really love the girls night out scene! I love Ji Ah and Ms Bong's reactions when they're talking about guys. I laughed so bad when they called their Vice President, Young Joon-ssi. HAHAH

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There was only one question on my mind for this episode: where can i get the dress pmy wore for the proposal scene? That is one gorgeous dress.

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Ah, such a cute episode. Honestly, after the resolution of our lead's childhood trauma, I'm mostly watching for my regular intake of sugary feels lol I can't get enough of PSJ and PMY. (If there's a Song-song couple, why can't we get a Park-park one? Ah, my heart.) Anyway, my attention actually shifted to Gwi Nam and Ji Ah. Both are adorable as well! (And props to Chansung, who I think acts really well in this drama. Hope he gets to be an lead MC in a romcom later on.) My heart just broke for Ji-Ah but my respect for Gwi-nam climbed up to the top of the ladder. I cheer for these two!

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Thank you for your recap and comments, LollyPip.

Yet another sweet proposal (after Mi-so shoots down a bunch of them before Young-joon can implement them), this time at the behest of Dad the Romantic Rocker.

I found myself twiddling my thumbs during the interminable drunken shenanigans and their aftermath as the clock ran out dragged on and on. For the first time, I got a sense that Show was running short of material. But I was glad that the fraternal mending of fences took place. That was a nice touch.

I loved the sound effects as Young-joon awoke with a hangover at the start of the episode.

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i don't think i cried at all over the course of this drama, but Gwi-nam and Ji-ah's scene made me cry so :( maybe it was how he ever-so sweetly and gently tried to let her go (and down), and how he was just so respectful to a fault. my heart really ached for Ji-ah.

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Am I the only one who spotted that the diamond ring was not on her finger when they kissed?!! Seriously! Who's the one in charge of details?! HA!

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I don't deserve this show, it's so good, I can't imagine my life without this drama now, missing all the characters already T.T Park Min Young and Park Seo Jun have never looked so fine. I mean, they are live shooting yet they still seem to glow, especially Park Min Young. The drunken scenes were so cute, Young-joon's drunken confession made me melt more than his normal ones, if you still confess under influence, you must really love her, and his confession though, awwww, you'll be happy because of her, that was shooo cuteeee <3 Drunk Mi-so was equally cute, her complaint about not being able to get drunk, Young-joon's cute way of carrying her bag, Young-joon's hands around her waist made me squeal like a pig! The proposal <3 (dang that black dress!) I swear girls won't be able to find partners in life if dramaland keeps introducing leads like this. Young-joon really took his brother's advice to heart and tailored his proposal to them. Each proposal is different and while you can reference it from somewhere, it will never be as touching and moving as your own, with your own touches and memories. His little touches (the caramel, Hardworking Cow and Memorable Dog, that singing!) was what made it such a lovely proposal. I think he added singing cause Mi-so said she was touched by his lullaby, doesn't hurt the man can sing!

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It was a great proposal! They really shouldn't prolong whatever issue that wouldn't make them get married.

Dad is adorable.

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QUESTION: This episode stated that this is the 5th Proposal right? Can anyone enumerate what eps the other proposals occurred? Specifically the ‘Daily Proposals’. I can’t seem to find the scenes for those last two proposals before the actual final proposal.

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when propose he put the ring (left).
But when they kiss after that, no ring.

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I seriously couldn't help crying at the part where Gwi-nam just rejected Ji-ah but for a surprisingly good reason. I have this grudge on 'some' guys because one actually had feelings for me in kinder. (#Gross)

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