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What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: Episode 8

It’s wonderful to see how far Young-joon has come in such a short time. After nine years of mostly thinking of himself, he’s learning to put Mi-so first. It’s no wonder she’s looking at him differently now—all she’s ever wanted was someone who takes care of her like she takes care of them. I’d never have pegged Young-joon as that guy, but as it turns out, in his own way, he’s been taking care of her all along.

 
EPISODE 8 RECAP

Young-joon tries to talk Mi-so out of digging up the past, but she tells him that Oppa comforting her when they were in a terrifying situation is the nicest thing anyone’s ever done for her. She turns to leave, so he calls after her that he’ll let her do everything she wants, and tell her anything she wants to know. He says he’ll bear with it, because he knows he can bear with anything regarding to her.

He holds out an arm and says cutely that this is where she belongs, making her laugh. They head back to the guest house, and she says she has something to ask, so he braces himself confidently. Then she brings up their almost kiss, and he flinches — ha, easier said than done.

She asks why he pushed her away, knowing that he doesn’t do anything without a reason but unable to think of one. Young-joon gathers his courage, then says that sometimes, when he closes his eyes, he sees a ghost. Mi-so asks if it’s related to his nightmare, and he jokes about her calling an exorcist and scares her by yelling that there’s a ghost behind her.

She gets scared and runs back to the house, where everyone is having dinner. Cheol says that he doesn’t drink because he needs to stay alert, and Se-ra, who seems a bit smitten after he saved her from embarrassment, asks about his ideal woman. He says adorably that he likes cute women.

Everyone jumps up when Young-joon and Mi-so return, and Gwi-nam and Team Leader Jung fight over who gets to give him their jacket (ignoring Mi-so, ha). Young-joon says he had a meaningful time, and everyone stares until Mi-so explains that they had a long work-related conversation.

Nobody saved any pork for Young-joon and Mi-so, and the nearest store is an hour away. Mi-so says they can just have some of the instant ramyun, and Young-joon’s face lights up. LOL, Gwi-nam nearly kills himself trying to beat Team Leader Jung to the kitchen to boil water.

Young-joon and Mi-so stay outside to eat, and Mi-so says it’s a shame that Young-joon didn’t get to have grilled meat at his first workshop. She teaches Young-joon how to use his ramyun lid as a cup to cool the noodles, and he asks her to add some kimchi, saying that it tastes better if she does it. OMG he’s so cute, how does she stand it?

The ladies camp out in sleeping bags in the living room, and Young-joon sends Mi-so a goodnight text giving her permission to dream of him. She hides under her blanket to respond her thanks, which makes him smile happily.

In the morning, Mi-so sees Young-joon’s car leaving and calls him. He explains that an important buyer has unexpectedly arrived in Korea, so he wants to try and arrange an exclusive contract with them. Mi-so offers to join him, but he tells her to stay and relax. He hangs up, but a second later he texts her an invitation to hang out at his house that night, adding that he’ll have a gift waiting for her. Okay, that’s a date, he totally just asked her on a date.

She doesn’t answer right away since Se-ra corners her, leaving Young-joon to anxiously check his phone every one-point-three seconds. When she finally accepts, Cheol catches Young-joon beaming ear-to-ear and he has to pretend he’s just stretching his face.

Young-joon lands the new contract, and after the meeting, he asks Yoo-shik to help him do some grocery shopping. They buy enough food for twenty people, so Yoo-shik is surprised when it turns out he’s not invited to a big party after all.

When the team arrive back in town, Mi-so can’t get away fast enough, and Se-ra tells the others that she’s been acting strange lately. She suspects Mi-so has a date, but the other ladies remind her that Mi-so never dates because Young-joon keeps her too buSung-yeon.

As Mi-so gets ready to see Young-joon, she tells herself there’s no need to dress up, then spends the entire afternoon curling her hair and picking the exact right outfit. She rescues Hardworking Cow and Remember Me from under a mountain of discarded clothing then heads to Young-joon’s house.

She finds him on the deck, fighting a losing battle with the grill. When he sees her, he goes slack-jawed, but he manages to say that she looks pretty. He proudly shows her that he’s making the grilled meat she wanted, but he burns the last of the meat — awww, he tried, and at least he admits that there’s something he’s not good at.

They settle for delivery pizza, and as they eat, Mi-so gets something on her lip. Young-joon reaches over to wipe it away and they catch each other’s eye, then Young-joon leans in close … then Young-joon hears a nightmarish voice whispering, “I don’t want to go alone. Let’s go together!” and a little boy screaming.

He starts to shake and his eyes fly open, but this time he fights the instinct to pull away. Mi-so senses that something is wrong so she makes a joke, asking which way he’s going to push her this time. Young-joon tries to explain, but Yoo-shik arrives with perfect timing, and Young-joon and Mi-so jump apart.

They try to act natural, but it’s not easy when Mi-so is standing stiff as a board and Young-joon is leaning awkwardly over a lamp, hee. Yoo-shik isn’t fooled, and he offers to leave them alone, but Mi-so volunteers to go home instead. Poor Yoo-shik sinks to his knees in front of Young-joon to apologize, and Young-joon snarls like he wants to rip his head off.

On her way out, Mi-so thinks about both times Young-joon nearly kissed her. Each time, he stopped at the last second, seeming upset, and she’s sure that there’s something strange going on.

In the morning, Yoo-shik shares an elevator with Mi-so on their way into the office, and he apologizes if he interrupted anything. Mi-so frantically denies that anything was going on, and she’s not sure what he’s thinking, and nothing happened, not at all convincing.

Yoo-shik nearly breaks an ankle stepping out of the elevator, which reminds Mi-so to ask how Young-joon got his scars. Yoo-shik says he’s only seen them once because Young-joon is always careful to change clothes alone – they were playing football, and while leaving the locker room, he glimpsed the scars on Young-joon’s ankles.

He says they were very old, and looked like Young-joon’s ankles were tied to something. He says they reminded him of a dog he once saw that had been tied up with a thin leash for a long time. But he says that Young-joon isn’t the type to tell personal stories, so he never asked.

He mentions Mi-so’s kidnapping, and that he’d originally wondered if Young-joon’s scars had something to do with it, but then she said it was Sung-yeon who was kidnapped. Mi-so thinks about what could possibly cause such severe scarring on both ankles, but all she can come up with is that he was tied, like Yoo-shik suggested.

When Young-joon arrives at work, he notices Mi-so’s upset expression and wonders if it’s because of their second interrupted kiss. He says emphatically that he wants to kiss her, which Ji-ah overhears, so he yells that he wants to have a meeting, ha.

Ma-eum brings cookies for the office team, leaving an extra one for Se-ra, who’s not in yet. She says it’s because she likes her, and at his desk, Cheol’s face lights up with a cute little smile.

Team Leader Jung brings Young-joon his weekly report, including a draft of the poster for an upcoming festival at the amusement park. It’s a couple kissing in front of a sky full of fireworks, reminding him of last night’s near-kiss. He sees that Mi-so still looks worried, and he assumes she’s also thinking about the kiss, and wonders how to explain.

Se-ra gets to work and finds the cookies on her desk, and Team Leader Jung says they were left by someone who likes her. Cheol happens to walk by, and Se-ra remembers his heroic rescue of her falsie. She sends him a text thanking him for the cookies, and she flutters to her coworkers about how awkward it is to have someone crushing on her.

She nearly chokes when they tell her the cookies were from Ma-eum. Embarrassed, she leaves the office to calm down, and runs right into Cheol. He asks her what her text means, and she snaps that she’s just thankful, okay?? But once she’s alone, she remembers him saying he likes cute women, and gets an impish glint in her eye.

Young-joon can’t stop replaying The Almost Kiss in his mind. He keeps trying to text Mi-so about it but everything sounds embarrassing or too revealing.

Mi-so sends a reluctant Ji-ah to give Gwi-nam his prize for the ribbon game then takes advantage of her solitude to indulge in one of the caramels that remind her of Oppa. Young-joon wanders over, looking like he wants to talk, and he sees the caramel in her hand and snatches it away to cover his nerves.

Awww, it was her last piece. Gathering his courage, Young-joon tells Mi-so, “I’ll overcome it. I, Lee Young-joon, can overcome anything.”

Ji-ah takes Gwi-nam his tablet, and he sneers that she must be very grateful since he found two ribbons while she only found one. He says she’s getting a whole tablet because he’s such a gentleman, and even let her get away with stranding him in a tree. Because of that, he warns her never to tell his secret.

He asks when she’s moving into his building, since whenever someone orders food delivered, it’s usually more than one person can eat. Ji-ah snarls that he’d better not be suggesting they eat together, but Gwi-nam says that actually, he expects her to give him half her food whenever she orders in. Wow, he really is tight-fisted.

Se-ra shows up at Cheol’s desk, having suddenly acquired a lisp and girlish braids. They guys make fun of her, and even Cheol can’t hold in a snort, making Se-ra pout and storm off.

Sung-yeon reads Mi-so’s diary to Oppa over and over, and he goes to talk to his mom about it. Mom didn’t know there was a girl with him when he was kidnapped, and Sung-yeon tells her that they escaped together. He seems happy that he wasn’t alone, and that the girl was Mi-so, but Mom says she has a bad feeling and advises Sung-yeon not to believe everything he’s told.

Mom calls Mi-so to visit, and when Mi-so arrives, Mom says that Sung-yeon told her that they were kidnapped together. Mi-so confirms that it’s true, and tells Mom that she was taken to a small, cold room, where there was a boy who had been kidnapped before her. She remembers that the boy called her dumb at first, but then he felt bad for her and comforted her.

Crying, Mom asks if her son was okay. Mi-so says he was okay, and that he even walked her home after they escaped and promised they would meet again. She remembers that Oppa was brave and considerate, and tried his hardest to protect her.

Mi-so describes Oppa as wearing a blue shirt and a jacket, but Mom says it was a cardigan, which she remembers because it was made for him by a designer. She tells Mi-so that she remembers worrying for the four days he was gone that he didn’t have a jacket, because he’s always hated the cold.

She says that her family has been tortured daily since that incident, because any time her sons were together, Sung-yeon would attack Young-joon. Mi-so asks why Young-joon lost his memories, and Mom tells her that Young-joon fainted one day, and when he woke, he’d forgotten everything. After that the family seemed to go back to normal, though she admits that things were still wrong under the surface.

She starts, “But Mi-so-yah…” but Sung-yeon walks in and interrupts. He invites Mi-so to stay for dinner, but she declines, so he asks her to wait and he’ll walk her out. As he goes to change, Mi-so notices that his ankles have no scars.

Sung-yeon brings up the art center opening tomorrow. He says he regretted agreeing to the book concert, but now he thinks he made the right decision, and that he’s glad they met again because of it. He sighs that he hopes the hot summer ends soon because he prefers winter weather, and Mi-so frowns. She says she thought he got cold easily, but Sung-yeon says that’s not true.

Mi-so is even more confused on the way home, since Mom said that Oppa gets cold easily but Sung-yeon said he likes the cold. She recalls being caught in the rain with Young-joon and how he’d worried about catching a cold. She starts to think, maybe… but she tells herself it’s impossible.

Meanwhile, Young-joon finds Mi-so’s diary, and his hands shake as he gathers the courage to read it. He remembers dropping her off at her house that morning long ago, and how tiny Mi-so had said she wanted to marry him.

He’d refused, saying that people should marry someone they love when they grow up, but she’d just said, “Then you can love me when I grow up!” Unable to withstand her cuteness, little Young-joon had sighed and relented. He’d pinky-sworn and promised to see her again.

Lost in thought, Young-joon doesn’t hear Sung-yeon come in until he orders him not to touch the diary. He carefully puts down the diary and starts to leave, and Sung-yeon thanks him for abandoning him that day and for hiring Mi-so.

Young-joon turns to his brother with cold eyes, and says, “Sure, don’t stop thanking me. Thanks to me, you will be able to keep seeing Mi-so. Mi-so will always be beside me.” Consider that gauntlet thrown.

Young-joon finds his mother, and he asks her, very nicely, to please not call Mi-so anymore. He says he’ll see her tomorrow at the art center opening, and leaves Mom looking thoughtful.

He goes for drinks with Yoo-shik, who asks if he’s looking troubled because of Mi-so. He tells Young-joon that dating someone is like looking at them naked (Young-joon: “Pervert…”), meaning that you should be completely honest with each other.

He says that if one person is naked and the other still has clothes on, it makes the naked person feel embarrassed and betrayed. He tells Young-joon to stop wearing underwear in his mind (I swear it makes sense in context) and to tell Mi-so whatever he’s hiding.

He says that lies only grow and will jeopardize the relationship, which is how his own marriage ended, even though he only lied once and never did it again. Young-joon says it’s not that simple, because some truths are too painful.

That night, Mi-so suffers a nightmare of the kidnapping from her point of view. She hears her own voice calling for Oppa, then he takes her hand and tells her it’s just a spider. She jerks awake, and she thinks that she’d hoped she would remember everything once she found Oppa, but she’s only more confused.

She gets a text from Young-joon asking if she’s asleep. She answers that she just woke up, and he replies that he saw her light come on. Mi-so looks out the window to find him downstairs, and she runs out to see him. He gives her a gift — a box full of caramels. This sweet guy, I can’t.

He says it’s an apology for eating hers earlier, and an excuse to see her. He tells her to go back to sleep, and before he goes, he turns back to look at her wistfully one more time. Mi-so smiles, but she wonders why she feels like crying.

The art center opening goes well the next morning, and Young-joon and Mi-so check on the preparations for Sung-yeon’s book concert. Young-joon tells Mi-so that she did well planning everything, and Sung-yeon walks in to see them smiling at each other.

He goes to the waiting room and calls Mi-so in to go over his lecture, claiming to be nervous about public speaking. She reads over it and pronounces it good, but when she rises to go, Sung-yeon stops her with a wrist-grab.

He looks over, and there stands Young-joon, staring at their hands, until Mi-so twists her arm free. Young-joon tells Sung-yeon coldly that he shouldn’t be speaking if he needs Mi-so’s approval, and orders her to follow him, but he’s called away before she can explain.

Mom is in the audience with Mi-so during the book concert, still surprised that Sung-yeon finally decided to show himself to the public, and she thanks Mi-so for making it possible. Mi-so excuses herself when she spots Young-joon, just as Sung-yeon is being asked about his first love.

He says he recently found her, and tells about them having been trapped together. Mi-so looks stricken as Sung-yeon says that he won’t let her go this time, and will risk everything to protect her.

Mi-so glances over to Young-joon, who just gives her an emotionless stare then walks out. She follows him, catching up in the lobby, and she takes him outside to speak privately.

She tells him that what he just saw and heard are a misunderstanding, and when he says she doesn’t need to explain, she says she wants to make things clear. Young-joon looks wary, but Mi-so says she’s scared they’ll grow apart because of a misunderstanding.

She tells him, “I like you. You confessed your feelings to me many times, and I’m sorry I’m so late. I like you.”

When Young-joon just stares at her, it feels like rejection, and Mi-so turns away, embarrassed. But he grabs her arm and whirls her back to face him, pulling her into his arms. Looking frightened but determined, Young-joon goes to kiss Mi-so, and again, at the last moment, he gasps and jerks away.

But he doesn’t take his eyes off Mi-so, and this time, she reaches up to touch his face. She slowly leans closer and gives him the softest of kisses, then just as slowly backs up to gauge his reaction.

He doesn’t let her get far before he wraps a hand around her neck, and this time, he doesn’t even hesitate. He kisses her, and kisses her, and kisses her, all misunderstandings forgotten.

 
COMMENTS

Oh, I loved that kiss, such a beautiful reversal from the typical drama first kiss. This time it’s the girl who initiated the kiss, and the guy who melted in her arms. Not that Young-joon wasn’t trying his hardest, and I give him all the credit for trying to fight through his mental block, but it was very fitting that Mi-so finally took the reins. Young-joon has done his part in every other way to make this relationship happen, though, and boy, when he decides to turn on the charm for real, he’s practically a force of nature. No wonder Mi-so finally confessed! I doubt many women would be able to hold out for long in the face of Young-joon being openly sweet and caring, and even his trauma adds a bit to his attraction — not the trauma itself, but his determination not to let it run his life.

I definitely believe that Young-joon is the real Oppa… even if it weren’t obvious (this being a Korean drama and all), there are too many clues that Sung-yeon is lying about being the one who was kidnapped. He seems surprised every time Mi-so tells him something about the experience, and at first claimed not to even know she was there, not to mention the fact that it’s Young-joon who has the scars and the nightmares and the lingering agony. And whenever Sung-yeon talks about the kidnapping, he doesn’t seem that upset, despite claiming to be traumatized. But what still confuses me is why Young-joon goes along with the lie — and I do think that the brothers are, for some reason, knowingly perpetuating a lie about which of them was kidnapped.

It’s just too convenient that both brothers claim amnesia of that time, when only one was kidnapped, and Young-joon’s late-onset memory loss seems particularly suspicious. Even Mom seems to feel that something has been terribly wrong since then, and I wonder how much she knows, since she accurately described the cardigan Young-joon was wearing. What I don’t understand is where Sung-yeon was during the four days that Young-joon was missing, and what could convince Young-joon to let Sung-yeon take the victim’s role for so many years. What does Sung-yeon mean when he talks about Young-joon abandoning him? The story is definitely off somehow, and something tells me that the true evil isn’t the kidnapper, but the person who hated his brother so much that he stole the most traumatic experience of his brother’s life, apparently just for sympathy.

As much as I wanted Young-joon to confess the truth to Mi-so first, I’m actually glad that Mi-so is figuring things out on her own. She experienced the trauma too, and working out the truth of Oppa’s identity seems to be helping her process her own issues at the same time. I think that their successful kiss defines their relationship really well — Young-joon is the one carrying the burden of the memories (I don’t believe he’s forgotten a single thing), so he’s torn between wanting to be honest with Mi-so, and wanting to shield her from the truth of what happened. He can only go so far on his own before he’s stopped by his own pain, and he needs Mi-so to close the gap he can’t cross alone and meet him in the middle. Just like with the kiss, once Mi-so closes that gap, I think that something will loosen inside Young-joon and he’ll be able to take over from there.

It’s almost tragic how much I misunderstood Young-joon at first, but to be fair, he’s not the kind of guy to toot his own horn when it comes to things that matter. He’s very vocal about his looks, his money, his brains and competence, but it turns out that he’s been looking after and caring for Mi-so for years now, and he’s never said a word about it. He gave her a good, stable job when she didn’t have the credentials to ever be more than a temp, and he’s made sure she had nice clothes and reliable transportation. Ever since their kidnapping when he took care of her, and even took her home before going to the police himself, he’s been putting Mi-so first but never taking any credit. I wouldn’t be surprised if we learned that it was actually Mi-so who was their kidnapper’s target, and that Young-joon took the brunt of her abuse on his shoulders, giving himself lifelong emotional issues and sparing Mi-so. He first came across as so self-centered, when in reality, he’s probably one of the most self-sacrificing drama heroes ever, even more so because he’s still keeping it all in to spare Mi-so from the pain of knowing what he’s been through for her.

 
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Yay to strong women who take charge!!! I am so so proud of Mi So! And YJ take off that undie from your heart mate, and tell her all you know! Last scene made me go asgdjfkfnbhj!!!

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lol @ "take off that undie from your heart, mate"
hahahahahaha

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Hahaha! Thank you for fixing the comma! They won’t let me fix it!

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Thanks for the recap! Okay, my favorite part of the episode was Young-joon trying to eat normally after Yoo-shik barges in.

I know we all are basically certain that it was Young-joon that was kidnapped with Mi-so and not Sung-yeon, but I’m also getting more and more confused as to Sung-yeon’s motives in insisting it was him. The way I see it, there’s two possibilities: one, that he genuinely has amnesia and his family is going along with him for whatever reason, or two, that he’s doing it on purpose which kind of makes him seem like a sociopath...My only consolation is that Mi-so is smart and isn’t easily fooled.

Regarding the confession and kiss - I’m loving the directness and honesty, but it leaves me a tiny bit worried as to where we will go from here. There’s still quite a bit left in the drama, and one of the bigger hurdles has already been overcome. But despite these concerns, I’m still absolutely loving this drama!

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I think there's a third possibility. I think LYJ is telling the truth when he says SY was kidnapped. SY was kidnapped -- he got there by force. But he got out. LYJ wasn't kidnapped, but he "went missing." He somehow figured out the situation and went to rescue his hyung, and his selfish hyung swapped places with him and went home. LYJ was the one who gave Mi-so the caramel and walked her home. Why was SY so angry with LYJ? Because he was exposed as a coward?

For me, the key was rewatching the conversation between Secretary Kim and Mom. Mom starts out the conversation by using SY's name. But then she drops the name, and we all just assume she's still talking about SY. She's not. The boy who gets cold and the boy who had the sky blue shirt and designer sweater was LYJ. But she doesn't describe him as being kidnapped, she describes him as having gone missing. SY was kidnapped, but I would be surprised if SY was gone for more than an afternoon. He may have walked straight to the police station, but did he tell anyone how to find his little brother?

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I'm thinking along the same line (although I had originally thought mum might have messed up memories due to trauma, but your point of how she's talking about both boys but we assumed it's all SY makes more sense) too, that being outed as the coward made him so angry and embarrassed that he either genuinely or faked his amnesia. But I'm inclined towards faking. His mom mentioned how he used to tear at YJ and YJ also mentioned being picked on by SY and friends (possibly because SY bears a grudge against YJ for outing him), so YJ decided to fake amnesia to get SY off his back and he despises his brother for cowardice and dishonesty plus despicability.

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Watched the conversation again. She started by verifying that MS was kidnapped along with SY, then as she started getting emotional, she slipped and asked "how was my Hyun?" and from thereon, she didn't mention names. That seemed like, she knew it was Hyun who was kidnapped, but because the "surface story" (official being covered up, thus the ambiguity) is that Yeon was kidnapped, so she went along to ask MS about being kidnapped with Yeon.

When she mentioned about YJ suddenly losing his memories, the boy shown saying "I can't remember anything" is pretty obviously the same as the one kidnapped (although they half covered the face).

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Interesting theory! Plausible too. Wasn’t SY mean towards LYJ before the kidnapping because LYJ was so smart and skipped two grades? So if SY was kidnapped, for whatever reason, and then genius younger brother shows up to save older brother, I can see SY snap and leave LYJ there in SY’s place. And then when SY turns up with trauma-induced amnesia, the whole family goes along with it (possibly under doctor’s advice) to prevent further trauma. Only, said amnesia ends up lasting forever and the family gets stuck perpetuating the lie. I like it!

My question/concern would be whether SY is faking amnesia or not. If amnesia is real, then SY is not so evil and has a chance of being redeemed - he was a foolish, selfish, jealous kid who did something stupid that got out of hand. But if he is faking the amnesia, then he is evil because he continues to cause harm - he has chosen again and again to torment his younger brother for many years.

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Lol - I should have kept reading before posting - I have echoed the sentiments of other beanies who posted before me down below.

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I think his friend hit it on the head. The big angst is going to be when she finds out he has been lying to her while she is so open.

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Mi-so is a big person, I think she will understand. Especially since, as mom said, the piece in their family was restored after he lost his memory. He has his reasons and they are not selfish.

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I know it was an excuse for Domino's Pizza PPL, but is burnt meat bad for your health? Because damn at all that waste.

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I also cried at the trash can full of meat, but its true that burnt meat is not good.

Exposing protein or fats to extensive dry heat (such as grilling) forms AGE / ALE products which are oxidative and toxic to the body. Therefore it can accelerate aging and if consumed extensively, could cause cancer.

Hope this helps~

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He threw it away because it was not perfect. He admitted that he was not good at it and did not want to present anything less than perfect on his date.

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So he bought her domino's pizza? 😝

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Does anyone know if Domino's pizza is higher quality in Seoul?

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I would totally have eaten the burnt meat, of course.

Did everyone else recognize that he was imitating the famous "Salt Bae"?
https://youtu.be/J5GGG0PaSe4

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I think he was imitating Choi Hyun Seok from Please Take Care of My Refrigerator.

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I don't know if it's just the wooden acting, but I read SY as totally believing his story. Mom & YJ are the ones who seem like they know they are lying...for example, when we see SY reading the diary by himself (not sure which ep) he seems genuinely moved, rather than devious

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I totally believe that SY believes his story too. I'm frustrated that the mom is letting him keep this delusion for so long. That delusion is something that is driving the brothers apart and yet the parents still want them to get along.

The way he stuck to Mi-So and started viewing her as his soulmate after she told him about their connection (even though he was never aware of her existence in his flashbacks) points to someone who very easily deludes himself.

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I have this theory for a couple of weeks (and this may already have come up): they were kidnapped by Mi-So’s father mistress. Therefore, Young Joon does not want to bring up the past.

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I'm confused...when was there mention of Dad cheating on Mom?

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Mi-So’s dad not Young Joon’s (if that’s whose parents you are referring to as Mom and Dad). I am not sure we have heard very much about Mi-So’s mom. Anyway, the comment above is just a hunch!

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That doesn’t make sense when MS’s dad is a musician and not very rich. SY said that it was a rich man’s wife. It makes more sense if it were SY & YJ’s dad’s mistress. Mom said it in episode 6 or 7 that she’d rather wish she never met dad. It was when she commented that whatever SY said sound romantic but not when dad said it.

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Also, not to add to the confusion, but there was a passing reference to Young Joon’s parents having some marriage troubles the first time YJ and MS join them for lunch. But I wasn’t thinking of that when I made this comment.

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@vongole, I'm like, "Uh?" We know Mi-Soo's dad has issues but that's all we know. We know Young Joon's parents have issues as well but I just attributed that YJ's dad coming off as a bit of a jerk. There's a grocery list of reasons for marital problems besides infidelity.

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After that adorbs back story in the latest episode, I am beginning to feel some egg on my face :P

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I didn't want to spoil it but the thing is that Sy isn't lying, but he isn't the Oppa. YJ was kidnapped bcs SY left him alone. SY, out of guilt and most probably frustration at proving his brother better than him, switched the situation in his young mind, he switched the kidnapping and he now genuinely believes that he was kidnapped and that his lack of memory of the kidnapping is due to trauma, and not bcs he wasn't there. Psychologically the switch makes sense, and also why his parents and YJ went along with it, a doctor probably told them that him discovering the truth would most probably break him mentally and the consequences could be great. Which also adds to YJ saying that his brother is one of the ppl in the world who should never call him selfish, he is, even now, protecting an abusive brother, form the guilt he deserves.

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From the way you said, "I didn't want to spoil it," it's hard to tell if this is your theory or if you are really posting spoilers here. If this is a spoiler, please don't confirm or post anything else about it. Even though we're all trying to figure it out, I think we still want to be surprised by the real answer. Thanks.

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Well I never read the webtoon and only those who have can actually spoil it, I meant it more in, this isn't easy to guess since these kinds of psychological issues aren't common discussion. In actuality, I read a book a few years ago that features a similar case and it clicked. I don't actually know why I mentioned the word "spoiler" other than I felt I needed to? Idk if that makes sense. I'm just real sure of my theory that's all.

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I like your theory best.

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Ohhhh, I like your theory, it seems the most legit. Sung Yeon is so firm in his own belief that he's the one kidnapped, I don't think he's faking it. I totally see him altering his own reality of how it happened though. Based on what mom said, I bet he believes so much in his own story about Young Joon abandoning him that he concentrates all his hate on Young Joon. And Young Joon, being that kind soul that he is, decides to feign amnesia for his family to move on from that traumatic incident. I think the parents know Young Joon was the one kidnapped but they decided to go along with Young Joon's amnesia, with relief I dare say, since all that tension and hatred between their sons must cause them so much anguish. I'm curious as to where did Sung Yeon go during the 4 days Young Joon was kidnapped, and did he abandon Young Joon so Young Joon got kidnapped? This episode just emphasized how much I dislike Sung Yeon, how can he hate his brother so much that even after so many years, he still takes jabs at Young Joon about the kidnapping. And the way he put Mi So in the middle, urghh. It's telling how Young Joon is the one that respects her and lets her make the decisions while Sung Yeon is just using her to bait Young Joon. This is why Young Joon gets the girl!

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LollyPip forgot to mention that when Mi So was talking to the mother, mom referred to her son as "our Hyun" when she was inquiring about the boy. (Who dat?) Not gonna spoil it for those who haven't read the webtoon, but it's a really important detail!

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I noticed this, and thus wasn't sure which boy she was talking about when she mentioned the cardigan,

Also, when I looked up the meaning of the name Hyun, I found two definitions: as a personal name it means virtuous, worthy or able; but as a family name it means dark or mysterious. Now that describes both brothers.

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You are probably talking about these two Hyun?
贤 virtuous, worthy or able
玄 dark or mysterious

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Now that you mention it, I remember the capital "yeon" could also mean "smoke" or "(pencil) lead", "black graphite", "ash light". Okay even the brothers' names add up to the whole guessing game.

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The official Chinese webtoon translation used 贤 for Hyun and 延 for Yeon. Couldn't find the Hanja definitions for Yeon off of Wiktionary but Hanzi definitions include:
"to prolong
to stretch; to extend
to engage; to send for
to delay; to postpone; to defer"
and just for kicks, Kanji definitions are:
"extend, lengthen
prolong
postpone"
Seems rather fitting to me.

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I just found it was a coincidence that "hyeon" and "yeon" have similar meanings if written in a certain way. I found out that "yeon", if written as 煙 or 鉛 could mean smoke, and lead and black graphite respectively and "hyeon" means black when it's 玄. But of course, the brothers' parents won't name them after darkness, still I was thinking their names might have double meanings in order to fit the romantic comedy and dark, mysterious aspects of the drama.
Like how the heroine of Wok of Love is named Dan Saewoo (Kuruma prawn) to fit the Chinese cuisine theme, but it has a totally different meaning in Chinese characters.

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Thanks for mentioning this because that part confused me, and I even rewound it to see if I had got the name wrong. Yes, I was all, "who dat?", but Mi-so didn't ask about it, so I thought maybe it was supposed to be a nickname.

The plot thickens...

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Miso did pause when Mom said "Hyun," so she definitely heard it. Maybe she didn't ask about it because she figured Mom mispronounced "Yeon."

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My guess is that Mom and Dad chose to change young joon's name after the incident? Since usually Korean siblings would have one character in their name that is the same, and SY and YJ don't. I always thought that was a little odd and didn't expect it to be something that would be important to the drama!

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I noticed that as well and I wondered who Hyun was. I don't speak Korean so I thought it was a typo by the translators, but maybe not. It really did sound like she said Hyun.

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So, this is my theory:

SY does have memory loss and that is probably caused by the guilt he felt by leaving YJ behind. That is the reason YJ hates him and calls him a coward, because despite doing all the bullying and causing YJ to be kidnapped, he can't even own up to his actions. He is weak, because he is hiding behind his amnesia. The family probably went along with this, because before losing his memory, SY was traumatized by guilt and started acting out. They thought it would be easier for SY to go on with his life without the guilt, so they switched the stories, so that SY was the one kidnapped. YJ is (as we know) pretending to have a memory loss so that his brothers memories don't surface.

I think that SY heard the details of the incident from YJ and that is how he "has the memories of the kidnapping". He is also a famous writer, which is kind of fitting, because he is able to imagine himself in that situation and make it sound like he was the one to experience it all.

I'm pretty sure we can expect a lot of angst from SY in the future, as he recalls his past.

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I also have the impression that SY's memory loss is real and that he genuinely believes his fictitious version of the events. You might be right that he repressed memories because of overwhelming guilt, but I wouldn't really blame him for that. Something traumatized him, and he needed therapy. Actually, the whole family needed therapy-- unfortunately, their perpetuating the lie this long has stunted SY's emotional growth. Of course that doesn't mean that he didn't act like a big baby and spoiled brat before the kidnapping-- I just think the family has enabled him in getting stuck in his victimhood.

Little YJ was such a sweetie pie. I think the actor did a good job of giving the impression that YJ had chosen to feign amnesia for the good of the family.

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I agree with your theory too. SY genuinely seems to believe he was the one kidnapped. Otherwise, he wouldn't act all hurt every time he meets YJ (why pretend when it is just the two of them?).

No wonder YJ never dealt with his PTSD though if he has to pretend his brother was the kidnapped one.

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I was also thinking that SY might have already regained his memories while he was abroad and now returned to make amends, but first he needs to make YJ admit that everything is a lie. And by going after Mi So, he knows he can get YJ riled up

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If that's the case, he's a bigger ass than I thought. To publicly use MiSo like that is horrible, worse than anything YJ did.

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Lots of good comments and theories about Oppa and the kidnapping.
I wonder if there is any clue in an earlier scene where tiny Mi so is talking to Oppa (face hidden) inside the courtyard of her house. It seems like YJ remembers parting from her on the steps outside the gate. Did she encounter both boys around the time of the incident?

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With regards to the Oppa mystery, I think it’s pretty obvious that Young Joon is the One True Oppa. My theory is that Sung Yeon was the one who left Young Joon behind, which subsequently led to his kidnapping. He must have caught wind of the incident and stayed away from home out of guilt until Young Joon wandered home on his own. It could be that his guilt over indirectly enabling his brother’s kidnapping, fear of falling further out of favor with his parents and jealousy over the added attention he knew Young Joon would get caused him to distort his own memories of the event and victimize himself instead. One lie and his past bullying behaviors is absolved and a bargaining chip over his perfect brother lands in his hands. It’s no wonder his subconscious has held so tightly to his fantasy over the years. And knowing how self-sacrificial Young Joon is, it’s not a big leap to think that he might have simply gone along with Hyung’s lies just to spare his family the pain of having to relive this nightmare.

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Also, can I have a Yoo-Shik in my life too? Best BFF ever!

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His advice to YJ about being not hiding anything from Mi-so was the kind of BFF nudging that most of us could use, but the way he delivered it with his "take off your mind's underwear" was hilarious.

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He's literally THE best friend EVA!!!! He is honestly my favourite part of this drama right now. So funny, and just such a great friend. He ships what we all ship! Hehehehe.

Really props to Kang Ki-young for being such a scene stealer. He's great.

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Me too.... From the last two episodes he advice have been spot on...

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He's actually the main reason I decided to stay on the drama! I really laugh out loud whenever he and LYJ have a scene together! It really balances out this whole trauma thing.

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Oh my goodness, seriously! When he covered Young Joon's eyes, I nearly died of both laughter and friend envy, lol.

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Can we get him a love interest?

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Omg yes, he's such an awesome BFF and a good friend to Mi So too. He kept mum about what Mi So told him regarding Young Joon even though Young Joon is his best friend. Can we have more scenes of Yoo Shik and Mi So, or even better the three of them together? Pretty please? I hope he doesn't get together with his secretary though, she's so incompetent when it comes to work.

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The brother. THE BROTHER. Oh. My. Gosh. How over him am I? As he stares all intensely, "Yes, I just re-met my first love and I'm not letting her go this time!" But...homie...you DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS THERE. At ALL. So, even if you weren't a lying scum bucket (which you obviously are) Mi-So still isn't your first love as you have and had no idea who she was.

You stink in so many ways. Lame-o.

Thanks for the recap! Yay! For the reawakening of DB!!

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Also, wasn't she like 5 at the time of the kidnapping? YJ was 9, so the brother was 11. An 11 yr old "loving" a 5 yr. old . . . kinda not okay. Kdrama obsession with first love makes me a bit stabby. And don't blur out my knife.

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I hadn't even gotten there yet. MY GOLL this man is problematic.

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I don’t think YJ was in love with Mi So at that time either. Probably thought she was cute and then as they grew older, began to fall for her. As they promised. So the age, doesn’t even matter.

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Since it was 9 year old Young-joon promising to marry Mi-so you do not have to worry about the 11 year old boy. And that 9 year old boy agreed after he had already explained to Mi-so that I is better to wait, grow up and then marry someone you love (pretty solid advice from a 9 year old kid). To which Mi-so responded that he should love her and marry her then (I call that planning ahead). It is clear that when 9 year old boy agreed to this he was just humoring the little girl- to help her feel better after their ordeal. But it obviously planted a seed, so that when they met again he had to take care of her- and that is where their love actually began to grow in reality.

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Lying scum bucket! Hahahha! That he is surely!!!

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YAY for that kiss!!!! Like LollyPip mentioned, it’s so very rare to see the woman lead the first kiss so I was really happy to see it here. It was especially sweet considering Mi So had been trying to figure out the reason why Young Joon wasn’t able to kiss her and when it happened for the third time, she simply let it be and kissed him herself, which in turn led to him being able to overcome his trauma to *finally* kiss her.

It’s still confusing as hell as to why Sung Yeon is masquerading as the Oppa but for everyone’s sake I hope it’s because he truly got amnesia and the family went along with him being the victim - for whatever reason. I don’t think I could stomach him being a closet sociopath and willingly painting himself as the victim for book content and sympathy from a pretty girl.

All in all, this was a great couple of episodes! I can’t wait for the romance to truly blossom between the two officially and to hopefully get some closure on the childhood trauma backstory in the coming eps.

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Right now, I want a girl who can make gwi nam spend his money. I hope ji ah is the one. Rather than having an expression of disbelief everytime she talks with him (which is understandable), I want her to start talking back.
Also I really want KKY to have a competent secretary. How he puts up with his current one is a mystery to me. Probably bigger than the other one.
Also,the brother can GTH.

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I think that the secretary and KKY are gonna get together xD

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I can only imagine them as platonic friends. If they get together, there needs to be like a multi-year time-jump.

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I am actively rooting against Gwi Nam ending up with Ji Ah. Everybody in this drama deserves better: Ji Ah, Secretary Yang, Yoo Shik (if he ends up with Ma Eum), and arguably Miso. If anyone needs a new secretary, it's Yoo Shik.

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I think about that every.single.time that secretary is on the screen! He is so awesome! He deserves an awesome secretary! Or at least one that doesnt suck. Or at the very least one who is somewhat concerned about the face that she sucks. This one is all---eh. I'm super bad at my job but my boss is a plush toy and will never fire me so heeeeey let me get that paycheck!

It would be nice if they shoe-horned in a loveline for him. Maybe his ex-wife can find out that he really only ever lied to her once and he's super sorry and they can get back together. I want him to be the lead. He's handsome. He's hilarious. He's charismatic. Come on dramaland. Make that happen, real quick. Oh, and it looks like he has lovely arms. Tangent!

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The lead of *A* drama. Not this drama. PSJ is killing it and it would not be the same without him. But, I'm ready for this guy who's name I've forgotten because I'm terrible with names to be the lead of his own drama and not funny sidekick/best friend. LEAD. Do you know, I think a vehicle like Waikiki would have been great for him to carry a lead romantic role. The drama had a clear main otp but the other characters and lovelines were fairly balanced. There was a heavy emphasis on the humor. Its a shame Waikiki didn't have one more guy. He would have been great.

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Kang ki yong is his name. I think.

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Yeah right, Bok-joo' samchoon deserved a drama with a love story for himself. :D Maybe with Kim Seul Gi again but this time, longer storyline. :))))))

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LOL! What a most satisfying comeuppance for the high-handed but miserly Gwi Nam. I'd like that he ends up spending money which benefits those who are less fortunate than himself!!! 😝

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Actually I don't really like Gwi Nam ending up with Ji An. He's also obsessed with himself and inconsiderate to order Ji An around... :(

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I totally agree! I really want Ji An to stand up to him - once she can get a word in edgewise!

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funny how I didn't like her when she just got hired (and she seemed super ditzy and incompetent) but NOW, ooh! I just want her to ram into Gwinam with a fiery "Get over yourself!!!" speech that will stop him from always hounding her!! aaargh!
totally rooting for her!

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HAHA I love how the drama effectively destroys Gwinam's supposed image at work! I feel it's ironic too how Gwinam is the boss in front of Jiah when she's the one who's keeping his professional life in check. But it looks like Jiah's gonna spill Gwinam's secret one day in an angry rant because he's consistently testimg her patience.

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I'm annoyed at his frugality, it's making me crazy! I mean he has a stable job at an amazing company so why be so thrifty? Anyway, too early to judge. Hopefully there's another reason for his character (other than being a potential love interest for Ji Ah)

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my issue is not that he's frugal. admittedly, having a good job doesn't mean you can afford nice things; there is such a thing called debt, and maybe he has a lot of it.

my issue is how self-important he is and how he hounds Ji Ah all the time about his STUPID secret, like she doesn't have better things to do with her life than to talk about him!! gggrrr!!!

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I want Ji Ah to walk away.

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I think the Kim girl will eventually discover (maybe when she moves to that house, maybe overhearing a phone call or seeing a misplaced paper) that Gwi Nam is saving money and sacrificing himself because he's the only support for an elderly parent or a little sister. And she will start appreciating him then.

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I agree that he's probably sending most of his wages back home but he's such a miser and just down right horrible to Ji Ah that I'm not keen on the idea of them having a relationship.

She deserves better than this miserable scrooge.

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It's actually an interesting parallel -- both Young-joon and Gwi-nam have this perfect image and both are hiding something. Both may even have valid virtuous reasons to be hiding something. But the only person Young-joon is horrible to is his brother, who deserves it. Gwi-nam is horrible to just about everyone so far. To me, it negates whatever good he is doing with his money.

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Gwi Nam can start by letting go of the idea that everyone's obsessed with him, his suits, his work habits and that Ji Ah's most pressing concern is his big secret. Get over yourself! He's a drip.

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I was thinking they were paralleling Miso and Gwi Nam with Miso wearing her blouse like a uniform and when they inevitably reveal Gwi Nam's hard-knock life is due to his family's debt and putting his little sister through college.

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I feel like he's not even worth talking with since he's so one-track minded. Seems like she just wants him to go away.

She was willing to keep his secret, but every time he annoys her, it's like he's asking for her to spill it.

The whole "well I caught twice as many flags as you did but we both got an entire tablet" and the whole "give me half your food because as a single person, you won't be able to finish it" seem so specific and appalling, I'm convinced Gwi-nam's behaviors are based on someone the writer knows in real life.

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Thank you for the recap! I swear, I don’t know what draws me in more with this show: the romance or the mystery. Seriously, WHAT happened? I mean, I think we’re all in agreement that YJ is Oppa, but I am obsessed with the details. Who is the woman? Why does Mom (seemingly) know so little about her own son’s kidnapping? Why does YJ hate SY so much, especially since SY accuses YJ of abandoning him? That last one reminds me a bit of Bridget Jones’s Diary - POSSIBLR SPOILER ALERT!!!!! Where Daniel tells Bridget that he hates Mark because Mark slept with his fiancée. However, throughout the movie, Mark regards Daniel with anger and contempt, while Daniel seems to enjoy baiting Mark and acts quite smugly towards him. Now, I’m no psychiatrist, but one would think their demeanors would be switched, if things happened the way Daniel said. And then Bridget - and we - learn what actually happened, and things make a lot more sense. Sorry that was long, but YJ and SY are the same way: if SY was the victim (at least in terms of YJ’s alleged abandonment), why does YJ seem to be the one holding a grudge? Then again, SY does seem to legitimately believe YJ abandoned him, so I don’t think he’s intentionally making that up …

GAH!! This show is making me nuts and I love it!

Moving on: Someone needs to explain to Gwi-Nam that when a person knows your embarrassing secret, it’s best not to be an arrogant, bossy jackass towards them. Hell, I want someone to explain that to Ji-Ah. At this point, I’d kinda like to see her make GN squirm a bit.

And finally:
“but the other ladies remind her that Mi-so never dates because Young-joon keeps her too buSung-yeon.”
Not sure that was an autocorrect, but I loved it!

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Someone needs to explain to Gwi-Nam that when a person knows your embarrassing secret, it’s best not to be an arrogant, bossy jackass towards them. Hell, I want someone to explain that to Ji-Ah. At this point, I’d kinda like to see her make GN squirm a bit.

Yes, precisely. What a doofus he is to keep baiting her,... the power should be in her hands!!! And what a doofus she is to keep accepting his intolerable treatment of her!

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Sorry, meant to copy and paste your handle @Gaelicmaiden for the comment above.

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It does not surprise me that Gwi-Nam treats's Ji-Ah like that.

She has shown time and again that she cannot read a room and is a bit of a idiot.

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Well, no one else treats her like that.

And he treats everyone else like that except his superiors.

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I don't think Gwi-nam knew enough about Ji-Ah and whether she is an idiot or not. He, himself, does not know how to read a room either. He's treating her like she's someone scheming to bring him down just because she happened to notice he only had one suit. It's pretty sharp of her to notice. Other women fawn over him. It's sort of funny (not for Ji-ah, of course) since she's the opposite of scheming.

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Re: Gwi-Nam:
yes yes yes, dear @Gaelicmaiden ! He annoys me soooo much!

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Maybe brother really has amnesia. That he felt guilty for causing YJ to be kidnapped and his mind couldn't handle it and so remembers himself as the victim. If he is the one to have collapsed or have a break down maybe as a family the others decided to, or were told by a doctor, not to push the real memories on him.
It reminds me of when I watched soaps, lol.

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Thank you for the recap LollyPip. I'm loving Young Joon & Mi So's interactions, they're both so intelligent but deliciously awkward. Their honesty once expressed is so endearing, they'll be able to support each other in a way that each of them has been longing for, since they have an emotional bond and the mutual trauma. As truths get revealed they'll really need each other. I re-watched their inital meeting again. The fact that he knew who she was, had escaped me but makes so much sense. In order to be there for her, he gave her what she needed so as to not experience the burdens of her family. I wondered in earlier episodes why he hadn't fired her and didnt say anything when she had outbursts when she felt wronged. His elevated opinion of himself wouldn't allow room for others to speak to him the way she did, but each time he acted as if it never happened - heroic genius. New found appreciation for the depth of his character. This kidnapping causes me to have so many questions - Did YJ fake loosing his memory and claim the position of youngest son? If he's the oldest, how were both boys in the same grade, SY doesnt appear capable of skipping 2 grades? Is SY so mentally unstable that the whole family feels compelled to continue the identity lies? Was dad the mystery woman's affair, is that why there's tension between the parents? The side office romances are too funny. SeRa and GwiNam are so high strung, their soon to be partners are in for a wild ride, lol.

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It was Young-joon who was the genius and skipped two grades- to his older brother's embarrassment.

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Oh. My. Gawd. Your theory about Mystery Woman being the father’s mistress literally made me gasp! One of the things that has sucked me into this series is the way different details are revisited with varying levels of depth. Like YJ’s “do you know who I am” at their first office dinner meeting: it seemed like part of his comical egotism until it was revealed a second time as being hopeful that she would remember some past between them. What if all this comedic jabbing at Dad (which has already been hinted at as his family not being wholly fond of him) is because HIS AFFAIR caused the kidnapping?! Dun dun dun!

[I like this theory better than the one about MS being the original target, since YJ was obviously held longer than MS. What if SY was kidnapped because he was the older son, YJ was captured while trying to help him, and MS just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?!]

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Yes I agree with your theory on the woman being dad's mistress! Their family has several issues! Perhaps LYJ is narcissistic and to avoid dealing with all the issues in his family

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He has proven that most of his family's comfort lies on his shoulders. That narcissistic side is to cover his insecurities. If you're rewatching the show from the start you can see that he's playing off with his sarcastic words and reassuring himself he's the best he can do anything.

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In one of the flashbacks, Mi-so walks through the doorway into the cold, dark room where the boy is being held. She is holding the hand of a woman whose face we cannot see. I think the buried truth that YJ is afraid will hurt her is this woman's identity. She may be his father's mistress. But she probably is much closer to Mi-so, who walked in there trustingly. What was that woman's story and what happened to her afterward? By any chance, was she the same person who scammed Mi-so's dad and left him in debt?

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@allphryne,

Speaking of the carousel: When Young-joon rented the amusement park for the evening, Mi-so rode the merry-go-round 7 times -- while her boss stood by and watched. I got the impression that Young-joon didn't like riding the carousel.

Mi-so said her family never went to an amusement park because they couldn't afford to go with 3 kids. But perhaps she rode a carousel around the time she was kidnapped, and has lost/suppressed that memory along with the others related to Oppa.

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I loved Mi So’s confessions than Young Joon’s one in the previous episodes. Even though she didn’t have to explain herself everytime she was with the brother I love how she chose to make her feelings clear to him and stop leading him on. I was hoping that Mi So would be the one to kiss Young Joon first seeing as how he couldn’t get over his trauma and this episode did it perfectly. Hopefully next week is filled with lots of cute coz that’s pretty much what I’m watching it for

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I like that precisely said she wanted to avoid any misunderstandings, and insisted on explaining herself. She didn't have to (as you rightly said, Seoul Searcher @inkcityxx ), but she also is very aware of the animosity between the 2 brothers, choosing to make it clear once and for all that she likes HIM and not the brother.

and the way she reached out to kiss HIM? gold! just gold!

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Exactly. I couldn’t have asked for a better confession

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"Why do I keep feeling like crying?" Heck, I'm crying, and I wasn't even kidnapped with him! More than the kiss, this was my favorite scene from today. His nonchalant wave at her in the window. Waiting by the stairs so she wouldn't have to walk all the way to his car. "I missed you." Leaving as soon as he saw her face. If Miso had not woken up from her nightmare, Young Joon would have waited in front of her house all night. The box of caramels was his way of telling her he is Oppa. As for the kiss, I don't like how cold Young Joon treats Miso whenever Sung Yeon is involved. She does not deserve that. It is not her fault he has insecurity issues with his brother.

Mom was scaring the crap out of me relentlessly grilling Miso over what she remembered, but as soon as she said "uri Hyun," it was like an epiphany. Young Joon changed his name from Lee Sung Hyun. That's why we never heard the rest of Oppa's name. I think Young Joon only pretended to lose his memories, since his photographic memory would never let him forget. Is the mistress Dad's mistress? Which would explain why Young Joon's parents have such a strained relationship. Now that we figured out the mystery, Hyung is freaking me out. Is he mentally ill, or did he imagine everything? Because he genuinely believes he was kidnapped.

Yoo Shik's naked analogy makes total sense. I can't stand Gwi Nam. Did he seriously demand Ji Ah to give him half of her food!? I hope Ji Ah does not move into his building. Thanks, @LollyPip, for recapping!

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Ah, "Young Joon changed his name from Lee Sung Hyun. That's why we never heard the rest of Oppa's name" makes a lot of sense.

Yes, those moments when we glimpse YJ being thoughtful, or vulnerably honest are the swooniest for me.

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YJ understood very early if he wants to put stop to his family's suffering he needs to sacrifice something, because his brother wouldn't let go ( mom mentioned that SY was all the time attacking YJ after the accident). SY is also a wictim of his own parents and their desire to have a perfect smart children. YJ got all the attention, because he was exceptionally smart as a kid, so SY felt the neglecting and kids react to this with aggressive behaviour, what's SY's case. I think he, as an attention seeker, was mad at YJ because after 4 days all the love and attention went again to YJ. Children are so simple and complicated creatures in the same time so jealousy can make huge scars in their little hearts.

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Your theory about him originally being Lee Sung Hyun makes so much sense! And he probably changed his name after he "fainted." He gave up his name and his past to bring peace to his family.

I'm not afraid of Mi-so being angry for long that he hid the truth from her. I'm more worried that the truth is going to prompt some noble idiocy.

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Wait! When was it mentioned he changed his name?? I must have missed it!

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It wasn't mentioned. It's a deduction that explains why Mom made a reference to our "Hyun."

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Got it!

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Really, the name thing is brilliant!

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I thought it was kind of weird that the brothers were Young Joon and Sung Yeon because it seems like siblings typically share a syllable. Sung Hyun and Sung Yeon make a lot of sense.

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Now I am wondering, did he choose the name Young-joon because Young-joon was some kind of hero alter ego for him? The equivalent of a name like Big Bang Supersonic Andromeda or whatever it was that he named his dog? Is Young-joon the perfect persona? As Young-joon he can face anything and never make any mistakes? Is that persona that he put on so long ago finally cracking now that he has to admit to someone in his life that he is human and that he does make mistakes? Just wondering....

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It just would explain so many things, like why he can flex his arms to create an aura, and why he says to himself (and others), "I, Lee Young-joon, can do anything ....."

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This makes a lot of sense because the official Chinese translation of the webtoon uses 英俊,英 meaning "flower, petal, outstanding, fine, excellent, brave, hero" and 俊 meaning "eminent, handsome" (Hanzi definitions from Wiktionary). Kanji definitions add on "sagacious (keenly discerning), genius, excellence" for 俊. Couldn't find Hanja definitions but I assume they would be pretty much in line.

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This time, at the beginning of the episode Young-joon confesses to Mi-so with words that tell us that now he gets it: He will be there for her and bear things for her sake. And Lollypip is right in noting that he has actually been trying to do that all along.
It was great to watch Mi-so putting together the clues to figure out that Sung-yeon was not her oppa. Seeing that his bare ankles were unscarred, that he had no trouble with the cold – while Young joon does have the scars, etc. I have to say that the memory of Mi-so getting engaged to Young-joon when she was five years old brought a smile to my face- because my son did exactly the same thing when he was five (they broke it off a month later).
The secondary romances got short shrift in this episode. As much as I think that Gwi-nam probably has real hidden virtues his suggestion that Ji-ah should save half of her take-out orders for him was way out of line. It is a miracle that Ji-ah did not kick him in the shins. Watching Se-ra trying to lay the aegyo on Secretary Yang was hilarious in a particularly cringeworthy fashion because she is really bad it it – the first chapter in what should be a very funny romance. But there is still no romance at all for President Park, who really deserves one. I loved the analogy he used to explain the dynamics of the dating relationship to Young-joon- it was actually spot on.
At the end of the episode Mi-so finally confesses back to Young-joon. She apologizes for not responding sooner- which is right as a way of showing that she cares about his feelings, when in fact she actually was right to wait until then, to give Young-soon a chance to get his act together. Smart girl.
We are at the half way point and everything is resolved. Except that it isn’t. There is a longstanding tradition that once our lovers have declared themselves SOMETHING HAPPENS that puts this whole relationship in jeopardy. I have not read the webtoon so I can only suspect that it is connected to the long ago kidnapping.

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Agreed about President Park. He's funny and cute as Young-joon and Mi-so's cupid, but I wish we saw more sides of him than just the "helpful best friend" one. If given a meatier role, Kang Ki-young would definitely rise to the occasion. But most of the side characters haven't been given much depth, so I'm not holding out too much hope, and just enjoying what we have.

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You have basically put into words what I was thinking when I was watching ep 8! President Park is not only hilarious - I died at his forlorn sitting down on the floor when he ‘caught’ YJ and MS 😂- but he is also a great friend. His suggestion to YJ to cut his crap and ‘take it like a man’ was a revelation to YJ. And his ‘undie’ theory made surprising sense. Hell I will be using his sentence in my future conversations with people who would need to hear it!

I cannot stand GN! If the writers are hoping to pair him off with JA I hope they redeem him somewhat in the episodes to come.

My theory is YJ is the older brother. The mystery is deepens the plot thickens

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the way he crumpled on the floor got me laughing soooo hard!

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Oh and how cute of your 5 year old! Maybe you should tell him about this ahjumma who got proposed to at 9 by another 9 year old and ended up getting married at 23 😃

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I like how the show interprets the "childhood friends" trope in its own way. Miso only feels thankful toward her childhood oppa for saving her that day but Sungyeon wants more than that, which is making her noticeably uncomfortable.

I am more than sure that Miso's oppa is Sungjoon because his mom said that "Hyeonnie" would get cold easily and he was wearing a cardigan that time. If it was Sungyeon, his mom would have said "Yeonnie". Korean parents sometimes call their children by the second syllable of their names. I hope Miso would get that extra clue.

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True! She never said out loud Oppa is her first love or anything.
We only know her lovely promise in one of her flashbacks.
And the fact that she's very hesitant and uncomfortable spending time with him when he asks her to review his scripts...
One thing concerns me, Miso thinks she was kidnapped, but none of her sister is aware of that incident. Why?

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I found your second point itching too. Don't the sisters just know about the kidnapping (which is absurd since Miso was away for a night) or they pretend not to know for Miso's convenience? But why would they hide it when Miso's phobia of spiders is directly related to the incident and they were pretty concerned about it?

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I think the sisters are aware Miso is scared of spiders, but they might not know of Miso being kidnapped. Why so, I don't know!

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When Mi-so asked them if they were sure she never disappeared for a day, the way they insisted "that never happened" gave me the impression that they knew about the incident but thought it best to keep the truth from her.

Mi-so's arachnophobia is severe, and even though her sister who is a psychiatrist has told her that she could definitely get over it with exposure therapy, it seems they've made no attempt cure her. So either that's just another of dramaland's plot holes, or they're afraid that trying to cure her arachnophobia will retraumatize her. I think there's a reason the writer made her older sister be a psychiatrist. (And maybe the character chose psychiatry because of Mi-so.)

But like @stuffed (comment 18), I got the impression that Mi-so may be projecting her fear of something else onto spiders, in which case spider exposure therapy probably wouldn't work.

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yes, @sooyi! well said!
I also did notice how uncomfortable Mi-So is with the older brother and thought that it was in part because she likes Young-joon and finds his moves on her to be awkward; and also because he seems a little shady, with details of their kidnapping not being the same etc.

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Going back to my theory in my comment for the previous episode recap, that flashback somehow confirms my suspicion that perhaps what Miso is scared of is not a spider but something else. Or am I overthinking this? Ughh... It's really hard to fight the urge to read the webtoon and I bet it's even harder for @lollypip who has to recap this show.

Wednesday please come fast. I need more of those awkward pizza scenes now that they're together.

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Honestly, don't read the webtoon.
I don't think it's out for all yet, you will still suffer from not knowing the finalee.
On tappytoon, ep 1-3 are free, but ep 4 onwards you have to pay for each episode which is quite costly.
And I read ep 9 webtoon but the story gets to ep 2 drama only.

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