Who knew "horror rom-com" was the genre I needed?

How to pull off a happy ending?
For those of us who are irked by real life Park Shi-hoo, a happy ending would be Song Ji-hyo falling in love with the second lead Lee Ki-kwang and having a long and joyous life together while leaving Park Shi-hoo pining and regretful for the rest of his life.

I love Song Ji Hyo, but I am not sure how I feel about watching Park Shi Hoo. Can I compartmentalize? Can I not judge someone who was not convicted and watch him act without feeling icky? I still don't know.

I wonder why Song Ji hyo would do a drama with this guy if he's still so toxic. Otherwise I never liked him much as an actor anyway. I can't see myself bothering with this drama at all.

so according to every one here, if Park Yoo Chan ever appeared in a drama no one would watch because of his allegations, I feel so sorry for these guys

These cases are almost always "he said, she said" and extremely hard to prove. It's very suspicious when the "victim" drops the charges. We can think of all kinds of reasons: did the police convince them that they'll lose because of the popularity of the actor? Or did they really try to commit fraud? One thing is sure, never believe what the press says.
We could say that probably 90% of these accusations are real. But which ones are truly not guilty? If it went to a jury trial would you convict without proper evidence?
As far as the drama itself, there's too much on my plate anyway so thankfully I don't need to make a moral decision about whether or not to give it a go.

lmao i was gonna watch this then i saw park si hoo yikes

I read in some news that Korea is one of the worst countries to live in if you are a woman (don’t get me wrong, I live in Brazil, so I live in a country where i'ts one of the worst too) the patriarchal level in the country is still a lot. And it is extremely difficult to say when an accusation is true or false. See the examples of many kdrama who are handling this, Miss Hamuri, Pretty Noona and the latest Your Honor.
In many cases, the woman is encouraged from withdrawing complaints, either by police or by lawyers themselves, otherwise, they make a survey of how many sexual partners she had, how many cases os one night stand she had, was she drunk? How she was dressed? She went into the bedroom because she wanted to? Why she not shouted louder? Or why she did not shouted at all? And we know as that society always judges the victim, and sometimes the humiliation is so much that many do not even charge or when they do, many also withdraw.
And to prove whether is or not sexual harassment is very difficult, and the funniest thing is the all scandals I've seen of Korean celebrities, they've never been guilty. Not one, ever. My moral doesn’t allow me to watch this drama, it may be that he is innocent, of course he can, but also it may be that he’s not, and in a society such as Korean, just like in my country, I know how easy it is to escape, and how easy to forgive men and make them always as victims, then in case of doubt, I avoid watching, as someone said in the comments above, if a company is accused of killing children, you will stop consuming their products, or if a doctor is charged with sexual harassment, you will stop consulting him. So why should not I stop consuming the work of an actor?

This drama sounds like something up my alley and I really like the posters, but I find it difficult to pick up because of Park Shi Hoo, especially since his character is that of a top star whose life is going well. Maybe I'll be able to do it later on...

So...time for another The Master's Sun rewatch.

I don't know if this even appropriate to post here, but alongside these conversations about moral right/supporting and not supporting actors' work because of their wrogng doings, we also should one day have a conversation about whether people are allowed to move past their wrongs, and if they can be anything other than what they did wrong. Because that framing of once wrong always wrong is also problematic AF. Not all wrongs are the same, and after atonement and apology, wrongdoers should be allowed to become better. But low I said, that is another conversation for another day. Because not all wrongdoing is equal. Adultery (eg Lee Byung-heon) and rape (Park Shi-hoo), or even emotional and financial abuse, are all very different wrongdoings and require different redresses.

But we need to talk about it at some point.

Kthxbai

its quite good. ep 1-2 are very nice

It would be awesome if this show was somewhat similar to the movie "Eerie Romance" with Lee Min Ki. Totally loved the vibe of that movie.

Alright, I just going to link the news about PSH's case and I'm going to summarize but also include my opinion while following this case at that time. (there are other news outlets/websites that also reported this case, so if there's a refute or missing info, feel free to add. It's good to hear all sides.)

18/02/2013 - News reported PSH accused of rape. PSH and his acquaintance, Kim met the woman, A, at a bar in Gangnam district on midnight 14/02/2013 and the rape happened at PSH's home on night 14/02/2013 / morning 15/02/2013 depending on which news reports and sources.
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/02/19/2013021900962.html?related_all
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130218001051&ACE_SEARCH=1

20/02/2013 - Based on the bar's CCTV, the bar owner said (he's not present when the three drank on 14/02/2013) the woman did not appear drunk while walking out.
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130220000745&ACE_SEARCH=1
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130220000745&ACE_SEARCH=1

21/02/2013 - Police were investigating CCTV footage in the parking lot of PSH's apartment. PSH's acquaintance, Kim was seen in CCTV carrying the drunk unconcious A to PSH's home. A said to the police she's surprised that she got drunk so fast in the span of 10-minutes ride to PSH's place.
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/02/21/2013022101281.html?related_all

25/02/2013 - PSH repeatedly failed to attend the scheduled questioning by police (19/02/2013, 24/02/2013). Police also stated on Friday (22/02/2017) due to suspicion of the drink being spiked, they obtained blood and urine sample from the victim. (My take: A quick google shows that drug especially date rape drug will flushed out of
the system within 12-72 hours after ingestion, the rape was night 14/02/2013 / morning 15/02/2013, that's pretty much gone already.)
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/02/25/2013022500675.html?related_all
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130222000734&ACE_SEARCH=1

26/02/2013 - Police said they will seek an arrest warrant if PSH failed to appear by March 1. PSH's attorney complained and wanted to change the precinct that handled the case (which is near to victim's house) due to dissatisfaction on how the case being handled. The precinct declined.
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/02/25/2013022500675.html?related_all
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130225000711&ACE_SEARCH=1

28/02/2013 - Police obtained messages exchanged between A and Kim. At this point, the public started to doubt A because why would she contacted Kim but she said it's because she wanted to protest of what had happened.(me at that time: If you're following this at that time, it's mind-boggling at how fast the knetz and public switched side, they started to label the victim as sly/ slut/ gold-digger and was faking the whole thing). The forensic team stated they unable to trace...

His smiling face and healthy career.
After all of that. The rage. I hope the victim is okay.... Hopefully she left the country tbh.... and live as well as possible elsewhere.

Update:
1. I checked out ep 1 earlier in the day. And nope, compartmentalisation fail I think. Though I would like to not pass judgement on the actor, I can't help but question his character in the drama - as a direct result of the actor.

2. Thanks @cloggie for sharing the insightful podcast. There were definitely new ideas there that I haven't come across earlier. :) {People are so amazing!} My views on what I consider a 'trial by media' are unchanged, but there's a lot of food for thought in there. It'll probably take me a week to settle my thoughts.

On the narrow topic of this drama, I gotta say I'm not impressed by this dude so far. This is my first time watching a drama in which he has a role, but I like Gi-kwang and Song Ji-hyo waaaaaay waaaay more than I like him.

On the broader topic, I confess to being of two minds. I'm a law student. I've worked pro bono cases involving sexual assault, both on behalf of the accused and on behalf of of the complainant (not as the prosecuting lawyer; I've worked family law cases in which there are concurrent criminal law issues). My experience has been that my outlook on this topic has changed radically. Having seen the effect false accusations have on accuseds and failures to prosecute have on complainants, I confess to now being pretty casuistic about sexual assault. It may be that complainants are statistically unlikely to make false accusations**, but making a determination based on this alone would be sensible only when there is a general dearth of information. In practice, a lot of information is typically available, even to the public, in these cases such that it's not as simple as computing P(X has committed sexual assault|X has been accused of committing sexual assault) because P(X is guilty) will be conditioned on a lot of other facts in addition to to the fact that X has been accused. This is just a long way of saying that extrapolating from a general pattern to specific instances is tricky.

**I've had to write about the statistical evidence in this area before, and boy is it confusing. But one thing that is definitely true is the fact that extrapolating American statistics to the South Korean context probably paints a misleading picture (I suspect in SK the likelihood that a person is lying about being sexually assaulted are loweer than in the US).

I hate negative comments about PSH, it happened long time ago. Please look to the present and future. Lovely Horribly good film with him and all the casts.

Now that a ton of people said they won't watch this, I surely will.