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The Guest: Episode 3

The spooky is dialed down to make way for the mystery — but there’s still a few scares to keep the blood flowing. Now that Hwa-pyung knows Park Il-do is looking for Priest Choi’s brother, Hwa-pyung is determined to find him, too. Except his psychic visions distract him with a new murder case — and only Kil-young can help him track down the killer.

 
EPISODE 3 RECAP

Yoon visits the now demon-free Young-soo, who’s back in his wheelchair and nearly non-verbal state. Yoon asks if Young-soo has experienced strange things since the exorcism, if he still sees scary things. Despite suspiciously staring off in the distance, Young-soo says he doesn’t see anything, and is more concerned about his daughter, Soo-ji (who’s thankfully okay).

As she settles in at her desk, Kil-young’s partner chides her for sleeping in the night-duty room again. He informs her that Young-soo has escaped prosecution for all the crimes he did while possessed. Based on his current state, there’s no way Young-soo could have killed someone, so it makes it seem like the cops didn’t investigate well enough.

Kil-young stops by the hospital to check on Soo-ji, but finds Hwa-pyung already there, reassuring Soo-ji that there’s no reason to be afraid of her father now. Kil-young eavesdrops as Hwa-pyung explains that Soo-ji’s father committed those acts because of the thing that was possessing him — now that her father is back to normal, he won’t act like that again.

Hwa-pyung adds that when he was a child, he was possessed by something similar to the thing that possessed Young-soo and he, too, did terrible things to his family. But he doesn’t remember what he did, just like her father doesn’t remember, either. Hwa-pyung encourages Soo-ji to visit her father later, since he’ll need some reassurance that everything is okay, too.

As soon as he leaves Soo-ji’s hospital room, Kil-young asks if he’s hungry. Aw, at least it’s some kind of gesture. Kil-young buys Hwa-pyung lunch, and he grumbles that it’s just cheap noodles instead of something fancy — so she starts to take his bowl away from him if he’s going to be so ungrateful. Ha!

Hwa-pyung says that her temper must mean she’s still single since any guy would be scared off by her, but Kil-young retorts that she’s got a kid. Hwa-pyung volunteers he’s been divorced twice already, but Kil-young decides the conversation is boring (or perhaps too personal for her liking) so they just continue eating.

Amused, Hwa-pyung watches as she laughs and smiles while playing with a little kid — a very different persona than her tough beat-’em-up detective attitude.

He wonders what will happen to Young-soo, and Kil-young says she’ll reinvestigate and find a way to send him to jail. After all, possessed or not, Young-soo killed someone. Hwa-pyung points out that Young-soo was a victim himself, then sighs that he wished Sohn only possessed bad guys.

She asks him what “Sohn” is, and Hwa-pyung explains his hometown lore regarding Park Il-do. Kil-young asks if that’s what possessed Young-soo, but Hwa-pyung says that Park Il-do controls the weaker spirits, and those are the ones that actually possessed Young-soo. He adds that when he was young, he was possessed by Park Il-do, which is why he has visions from the viewpoint of the possessed people.

He mentions his case file of mysterious deaths, wondering if she’s looked at it yet. Kil-young admits she has, but she’s still not sure about the whole “evil spirit” thing. It’s easier to catch criminals that you can see and touch. Besides, there’s enough evil people in the world already.

Hwa-pyung’s psychic ability kicks in and he senses that Kil-young’s been through a terrible incident in her past. But she refuses to talk about it.

Yoon goes to Priest Han’s home and begins to box up the man’s belongings. He stops when he sees a photo of him with Priest Han, remembering how the older priest was struggling with cancer but refused to go to the hospital. Yoon had stopped by to deliver his medication, but Priest Han dismissed it, saying that pain and suffering is just part of an exorcist’s job.

Yoon was worried, though, and encouraged him to quit exorcism and focus on his health. Sighing, Priest Han said that if he weren’t a priest, he’d want a son like Yoon. Then he warned Yoon that he’s young so he can get out now before he becomes too much like Priest Han. But Yoon stubbornly said he’s looking for someone.

The reverie is broken by a knock at the door, and Yoon is surprised to see Hwa-pyung standing there. He explains that he tracked down Yoon to thank him for everything, but Yoon coolly says he was just doing his job. Hwa-pyung offers to help him pack up the old priest’s belongings, but Yoon curtly refuses his assistance.

Hwa-pyung hesitantly brings up Priest Han’s death, and tells Yoon not to blame himself. Yoon says he’s more likely to blame Hwa-pyung, who affably agrees that he’s a major problem. Hwa-pyung points out that Priest Han would likely forgive him, though, since the both of them have risked their lives fighting the same evil. After all, Hwa-pyung could easily die himself tomorrow.

Yoon retorts that Hwa-pyung is self-centered, only talking about how he’s risking his life to save people. He then demands to know why Hwa-pyung keeps speaking so informally to him, and Hwa-pyung casually says that Yoon can do the same if he’d like. But Yoon’s cold stare makes Hwa-pyung but on a big display of speaking formally as he starts to leave.

Yoon has one more question, though: Did Hwa-pyung have anything to do with the stronger spirit that disappeared when Yoon was performing Young-soo’s exorcism? Hwa-pyung simply says he’s learned from experience that when a strong spirit loses its power, so do the weaker spirits.

Realizing that Hwa-pyung is talking about Park Il-do, Yoon asks where Park Il-do is now. Hwa-pyung says he’s looking for the spirit, too. When he finds it, he’ll let Yoon know. But Yoon can’t stop thinking about how dangerous Park Il-do is, and how Priest Han warned him to stay away from it — and from Hwa-pyung.

Hwa-pyung borrows Yook Kwang’s car (without telling him, ha!) to visit his grandfather. Even though it’s been a long time since Hwa-pyung’s returned to his hometown, he’s determined to learn more about Priest Choi’s “little brother.”

Grandpa’s made a life as a farmer and fisherman, and he and Hwa-pyung take a lunch break together. The TV playing in the background is the same one that Hwa-pyung used to watch when he was a kid, and Hwa-pyung marvels that it still works.

Grandpa gets a visitor, who quickly balks at staying when he sees that Hwa-pyung is there. The neighborhood is still spooked by Hwa-pyung and what happened twenty years ago.

That night, Grandpa watches as Hwa-pyung sleeps, remembering when Hwa-pyung was a boy, covered in bruises during his possession by Park Il-do. Grandpa carefully lifts Hwa-pyung’s shirt, sighing in relief to see that it’s bruise-free.

Hwa-pyung wakes up, wondering why Grandpa isn’t asleep. He tells Grandpa that Dad isn’t coming back, but Grandpa is still worried about his son, who’s only contacted him once in twenty years. Hwa-pyung tells Grandpa not to wait for Dad, and then falls back asleep.

He wakes up later, and sees a man dragging his blood-covered grandfather in a plastic bag through the farm field. But it’s not just any man — it’s Priest Choi, who creepily grins at Hwa-pyung as Grandpa screams from the plastic bag for Hwa-pyung to run.

But it was just a dream, and Hwa-pyung wakes up in relief to find Grandpa, uninjured, sleeping peacefully — and no Priest Choi.

Hwa-pyung heads out in the early morning. Aw, Grandpa tries to give him some pocket money, but Hwa-pyung refuses it. After Hwa-pyung leaves, Grandpa finds a brand new flat screen TV on his porch. It’s a sweet gift, but Grandpa grumbles that Hwa-pyung could have at least taken it out of the box and set it up for him.

Hwa-pyung stops by Priest Choi’s old residence. He cautiously approaches the entrance, noting that it’s now a pottery studio. The new owner directs him to a local orphanage, but the orphanage owner explains that the person Hwa-pyung is looking for stayed with them until high school, at which point a relative took him. They haven’t heard from the boy since.

Hwa-pyung asks if the boy had any close friends, and the woman says that he kept to himself. He didn’t talk to anyone, almost like he was mute. She assumes that it was from some trauma that he endured, and adds that he even attempted to commit suicide.

Hwa-pyung then shows her a photo of Priest Choi, asking if she’s ever seen him. But the woman hasn’t. It does remind her that the boy used to have an older brother that was a priest, and wonders if that’s why he killed his parents.

She admits that she and the other children used to find him a little creepy. They used to have a dog at the orphanage, and when it died, everyone cried — except for the boy who just stared at it, emotionless.

Later that night, when he returns home, Hwa-pyung has another vision. It’s of a taxi with a monkey hanging from the review mirror, and a woman is bound and gagged, then dragged and put into the taxi’s trunk where there’s another dead body of a woman.

In the morning, Hwa-pyung rushes to the police station, begging Kil-young to investigate. She doesn’t believe his “vision” claim, but Hwa-pyung reminds her of everything that happened with the Young-soo case. He pleads with her to check the missing persons list for a woman with a flower tattoo on her shoulder.

When Detective Go starts to tease Hwa-pyung for showing up at the police station just because he likes Kil-young, Kil-young sighs and tells Hwa-pyung she’ll look into it just so he can go home and leave her alone.

But there’s no missing persons report for anyone that fits the description Hwa-pyung gave her of the woman. Kil-young’s ready to give up, but just then a report comes in — eerily exact to Hwa-pyung’s description.

Hwa-pyung investigates all the taxis and taxi drivers in the area, looking for one with a monkey hanging from the mirror, but to no avail. Meanwhile, Kil-young’s trying to track down CCTV of the woman and the moment she disappeared.

The catch, though, is “missing persons” isn’t exactly a “violent crimes” case. Hwa-pyung reassures her that he’ll help. That’s what Kil-young was afraid of, though, and she threatens him to keep his nose out of it. He totally lies that he won’t do anything as he’s continuing to track down the monkey taxi.

Kil-young is persona non grata with her boss, since she found Soo-ji alive (when he had insisted she was already dead), which ultimately means she was right and he was wrong. Kil-young has no desire to appease her boss’s pride at a team dinner that night, since she’s determined to figure out what happened with the missing woman. Not that she’s the type to appease anyone, anyway.

Hwa-pyung’s been out all night, trying to track down the monkey taxi (while driving his own taxi, too). He stops for a moment, turning on the radio to an old trot song. It’s the same song playing in the monkey taxi. In the backseat of the monkey taxi is a young, pretty woman.

The driver’s face is shrouded in darkness, but the woman seems uncomfortable, sensing there’s something strange in the way he keeps glancing at her. A delivery scooter zips by, its horn tooting, causing the monkey taxi to slam on the brakes. Then the taxi driver suddenly turns the opposite way from where the woman is going, much to her concern.

Hwa-pyung’s lost in his vision, only shaken out of it when his passenger demands to know why he’s going the wrong way. When the delivery scooter zooms by his taxi, Hwa-pyung realizes that he’s not far from the monkey taxi, so he kicks his passenger out so he can figure out where the monkey taxi is.

Despite driving down the street he saw in his vision, Hwa-pyung doesn’t find the monkey taxi, and gives up in frustration. Just then, a taxi passes by — playing the trot song. Hwa-pyung speeds after it, following it down the road — but the windows are too tinted for Hwa-pyung to see in.

Hwa-pyung cuts the driver off, getting out of the car as he explains that it was an accident. He’s still trying to peer in to see who’s driving, but the monkey driver backs up and then suddenly speeds forward — right at Hwa-pyung, who narrowly avoids being road kill.

The chase is on as the two taxis race down the highway, swerving in and out of lanes and between other cars. A large truck causes the monkey taxi to suddenly turn on a long stretch of empty road, and Hwa-pyung races behind it. Hwa-pyung gets close enough to bump the monkey taxi, causing it to veer off into a construction site and crash — but Hwa-pyung’s vehicle crashes, too.

Hwa-pyung’s momentarily knocked out, and when he comes to, the driver of the other taxi is long gone. Hwa-pyung opens the trunk of the monkey taxi and finds the body of a woman. Hwa-pyung calls Kil-young, letting her know he’s found the car.

But the mysterious driver hits Hwa-pyung over the head with a pipe. Dazed by the blow to his head. Hwa-pyung grabs the man’s leg, demanding to know how he’s connected to Park Il-do. The mysterious driver continues to beat Hwa-pyung with the pipe until a truck drives up — then the man gets in his monkey taxi and speeds away.

Hwa-pyung wakes up in the hospital. Despite some bumps and bruises, he seems intact. He hears Yook Kwang weeping by the bed of the bandaged man next to him, thinking it’s Hwa-pyung. Opening his curtains, Hwa-pyung snarkily asks if Yook Kwang knows the guy. Ha!

Yook Kwang is just relieved that Hwa-pyung isn’t as badly injured as he thought, but warns Hwa-pyung (who checks himself out of the hospital early, despite protests from the doctors) that he’s not totally invincible. If he keeps this up, Hwa-pyung might actually die.

Kil-young might kill him first, though, since she barges into the hospital, demanding to know what he was saying about finding the culprit. Aw, she at least pauses for moment when she sees the bandage on Hwa-pyung’s head, wondering if he’s hurt.

Hwa-pyung shows her the blackbox footage from his taxi. They can’t see the guy’s face, but at least it shows the taxi the guy was using. Except Kil-young knows it’s a fake taxi. Hwa-pyung pleads with her to look into it, anyway, since if he could have found the car sooner, the woman in the trunk might have still been alive.

Kil-young says that there’s no proof a woman was murdered and kidnapped. Hwa-pyung passionately bursts out that Kil-young just doesn’t want to get involved in a difficult case. Those are fighting words, and Yook Kwang nearly has to intervene as Hwa-pyung continues to insist to the offended Kil-young that she needs to make sure more women aren’t killed.

Even if there’s no hard evidence, Kil-young can’t resist trying to prevent someone from being senselessly murdered. She looks into the license plate on the taxi, which leads her to a junk yard. The junk yard owner says that the vehicle they’re looking for has already been scrapped by his brother, Min-gu.

Kil-young notices the car that was used for the taxi and peers inside it, then notices a young man carefully watching her. He starts to run when she turns towards him, so Kil-young and Detective Go chase him through the junk yard. He’s finally stopped when Kil-young surprises him with a car door to the face.

She tackles him and slaps the handcuffs on, but he starts to frantically scream. His brother runs up to comfort him — it’s clear that Min-gu has some developmental disorder.

At the police station, Kil-young tries to get a statement from him, but he can’t look at her and chatters to himself about soccer instead.

Annoyed, Kil-young realizes that this interrogation isn’t working, but Min-gu suddenly bursts that it’s because he called his mother yesterday that “that bastard” came. Kil-young shows him a photo of a young woman, and Min-gu freezes as he stares at it.

Detective Go asks to speak to Kil-young privately, demanding to know what she’s doing. According to Min-gu’s brother, Min-gu can’t drive, so he couldn’t have been the one in the illegal taxi. Sighing, Kil-young admits that this isn’t about tracking down an illegal taxi — it’s about women who have gone missing.

She tells him about Hwa-pyung finding a body in the trunk, although they haven’t found proof of this yet. Detective Go warns her the boss won’t be happy that she’s taking on an additional case without okaying it with the higher ups, especially since they’ve already been assigned other cases. But Detective Go does admit something doesn’t feel right — Min-gu reminds him of how Young-soo used to act.

Hwa-pyung rests at Yook Kwang’s, only to wake up and realize he can’t move his body. He can’t even call out to tell Yook Kwang — happily lost in a game of Go Stop — that he can’t move. Hwa-pyung looks up and gasps when he sees Priest Choi looming over his helpless body.

Hwa-pyung struggles to sit up and sees a spirit in the corner, a body that crawls like a spider and hisses at him as water flows on the ground. Hwa-pyung starts to yell at the spirit, but instead he suddenly sits up as though waking from a dream, startling Yook Kwang from his happy, carefree game.

Hwa-pyung gasps out that there was a spirit in the corner, and even though Hwa-pyung doesn’t see anything now, Yook Kwang immediately grabs a bowl of salt and performs a ritual, cleansing the room of spirits. He then tells Hwa-pyung to sleep somewhere else if he’s going to bring evil spirits into Yook Kwang’s home and place of business.

Hwa-pyung gets a call from Kil-young, who asks to meet. She demands to know the last thing he saw in his vision, peppering him with questions about what the woman looked like. She refuses to tell him who the culprit is, insisting that it’s not something a civilian needs to know. She warns him not to interfere with police business — y’know, like he did last time.

But Hwa-pyung insists more women will die if he doesn’t do something. Kil-young says there’s no way that he’ll find the car on his own. Finally Hwa-pyung admits defeat and tells her the road he saw in his vision where the monkey taxi picked up the woman. In return, Kil-young reluctantly tells him the name of the junk yard where the car came from.

He heads there in the morning, with Yook Kwang tagging along to help him sense if someone is possessed. Hwa-pyung bluffs that he needs a part for his taxi, which gives them access to look around. But really they’re searching for anyone that looks suspicious.

They find Min-gu working on a car — and scratching the back of his neck. Uh-oh. He’s also talking to himself — and not in a sensical way. Double uh-oh.

Hwa-pyung approaches, and Min-gu immediately drops into a defensive posture, holding his wrench like a weapon. Hwa-pyung can hear the music coming from Min-gu’s earbuds, and recognizes the trot song. Min-gu: “It’s you, isn’t it, you bastard?”

 
COMMENTS

I was actually a little surprised that this episode seemed to have no truly scary bits in it — until that scene at Yook Kwang’s. *shiver* Part of me wants to believe it was just thrown in as a “Hey, this is supposed to be a scary drama, but so far people have just been running around trying to solve a case like a normal detective show. What can we do to remind people this is a horror show?” That ghost in the corner certainly worked for me (and the looming Priest Choi was a nice little jump scare, too!).

I do find it amusing that Hwa-pyung is putting in all this effort to track down Priest Choi’s little brother when he’s already (unknowingly) found him. I can’t wait until Hwa-pyung also figures out that Kil-young was the girl from that night, too, and it was her mother who was killed. I get the feeling he’ll see it as a sign that they’re in the right place to find Park Il-do since that was an apparently important night for the spirit (especially if it’s the last time Priest Choi saw his brother, which he — or Park Il-do — is also looking for). With the trio back together, anything could happen! I’m not so sure Yoon or Kil-young will agree, but I don’t think they can avoid being dragged into Hwa-pyung’s schemes any longer. Not that they’d necessarily want to avoid it, since Yoon is also looking for his brother, and I presume Kil-young has probably always been wanting to get her hands on the person who killed her mother.

It does make me worried about Yoon, though. I can understand being traumatized by seeing your older brother beat the hell out your family. But I fear that he’s got a dark side in him, the kind that Park Il-do likes to feed on, the kind that makes the evil spirit thrive, and I can’t help but wonder what would happen if Park Il-do could jump ship from Priest Choi to Yoon. I don’t want it to happen — but there’s a mysterious side to Yoon that makes me worry, nonetheless. Especially now, when the only parental figure he’s had since that brutal night twenty years ago was recently taken from him by the machinations of Park Il-do. Yoon may be a cool cucumber to all appearances, but I get the feeling there’s a deep anger in him — an anger that could either help destroy a spirit or make it stronger.

Thankfully, Kil-young is still a stubborn skeptic, keeping everyone in check. Maybe she doesn’t understand it all, but if it means saving someone’s life, then she’ll get her information from a psychic. She’s skeptical, but intuitive, and I really love that combination, since it seems like it’d be so easy to make her a caricature of the tough policewoman who refuses to believe in any spiritual mumbo-jumbo. She may have doubts, but she also seems willing to accept (albeit reluctantly) that Hwa-pyung knows something and wants to save lives, just like she does.

I also appreciate that, even though a loveline is teased (literally) between Kil-young and Hwa-pyung, neither of them are interested in such distracting nonsense. Kil-young would sooner kill you with her withering glare than let you imply an annoying taxi driver has a crush on her. Not that I think Hwa-pyung does. At least, not yet. He’s simply a charming fellow in general, and his psychic ability no doubt allows him to relate to people in better ways than the constantly angry Kil-young or the frigid Yoon. So while I would normally sigh at the realization that it looks like we can’t escape the inevitable loveline, I’m glad they’re not taking it too seriously. Instead, the characters are allowed to be people first, struggling with their enormous spiritual baggage, and solving mysteries together. Which is as it should be.

 
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I like the interactions between Kil young and Hwa pyung, I really do. I could actually watch them bicker all episode. But then, I also want more KJW instead of the guest appearances he's giving.

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I was happy to have an "light" episode, it's like a breath of fresh air before to dark ones. :p

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Thanks @odilettante
About the horror part, for me the dream at grandpa's was scary. A bloody grandpa being dragged away by smirking killer is literally the stuff of nightmares. The other dream of not being able to move while evil crawls nearer and nearer is also scare-tastic! However, I'm happy enough to not have too much real horror and gore all the time.

I loled when Yook Kwang was throwing salt about and it hit Hwa Pyung in the ear. And especially when he was bawling over a complete stranger in the hospital. I really like the moments of levity. Every horror show needs them.

Already, although we have not seen that much of each of the main characters, they have made their mark in the show. Yoon is kinda scary himself and so inaccessible. He makes me want to know if there's anything else that drives him besides his search for his brother.

Kil Young seems to be hiding different facets of herself and is not as traumatised by the death of her mum as Yoon is. I'd like to know if her having a child is true.

And as you say, Hwa Pyung is so charming and the pivot who will bring the others around him, whether they will or not. I'd like to know what it was about him that got him possessed by Park Il Do, and why Park left him for Priest Choi.

I like how the show is bringing everyone together, partly in what appears to be on a weekly case to solve, while at the same time tracking down the one big bad spirit and Choi. The strife and interactions between the 3 main characters will be fun to watch as they start looking out for each other.

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Re the dream of grandpa being dragged away. I think the smirking killer will be Hwa Pyung's missing dad. At this point I wondered if Hwa Pyung sees what's going to happen, not what's actually happening.

More on this in the ep 4.recap.

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No honey it was priest Choi , and yes I wonder the same .

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@greenfields, @growingbeautifully,

Sheesh! I just flashed on Mo Tae-goo's Saran-Wrapped mummy in VOICE!!! The one-eyed club hostess he stashed in the wardrobe. Yikes!

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@greenfields, @waadmay,

I like the idea that missing Dad may be involved as well as Priest Choi hyung. Now that I think of it, who's to say that Park Il-do cannot go after more than one prey at a time as it is the weaker spirits who do the actual "pre-processing" (initial possession), so to speak. If Dad had been involved, that would explain why Hwa-pyung has no memory of killing Mom or Grandma -- because he didn't do it. Either both women offed themselves, or someone else bigger and stronger than shrimpy little Hwa-pyung "helped" them. Dad strikes me as a likely candidate.

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Yup. Its entirely possible. Dad did TRY to kill Hwa Pyung, and him being missing is surely a spooky circumstance & not an otherwise normal missing dad circumstance? I mean - this is a horror show. XD

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While I do think it's possible that somewhere along the line, dad got murderous... his trying to strangle Hwa Pyung was shown to be linked to the shaman saying that the boy should be killed. So it's not clear.

What the possessed seem to do is to kill every family member... but grandpa got stabbed by Woong, survived and was not attacked again.

Dad, however, is a suspicious character because he was generally rather anti-Hwa Pyung. It was grandad who took more care of the boy. Dad was not interested in the Shaman ceremony to save HP, he was against the priests as well, he tries to strangle HP and then disappears. If ever there was a good candidate for Park, it's dad,... however maybe he is not mentally ill or deranged enough yet?

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@growingbeautifully - I saw the episode 4 recap before your comment here! Have tagged you there, it's kinda like a response? Partly.

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I wouldn't necessary agree with Kil Young being less traumatized, she acts her trauma different, unlike Hwa Pyung and Yoon she don't know who and why killed her mother so her anger is not as aimed as theirs plus she probably feels guilt about her last interaction with her mother, and I think Hwa Pyung obsessiveness and gung ho attitude in putting himself in dangers way comes from the fact that unlike what he told the daughter, he feels somehow responsible for the death of his mother and grandmother and destroying his family.

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It's certainly possible that Kil Young will manifest her trauma a different way. Right now I like that she's such a kick ass female cop.

That's true about Hwa Pyung. When Priest Yoon said how if he blamed HP for Priest Han's death, HP agreed that he was a big part of it. He's feeling guilty just because the evil spirit moved from him to Choi and from then, ran rampage. He's also probably searching for Choi's younger brother to save or protect him. Yoon accused him of being full of himself as the one going about saving everyone. 😐 😃

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@shach, @growingbeautifully,

I agree with you both that Kil-young may be more affected by her mother's death than she lets on. At this point, we don't know anything about her background, whereas we know that Hwa-pyung comes from a family of shamans and grew up actively involved in a village that communed with the spirit world on a regular basis. We know that young Choi Yoon grew up in a devout but warped Catholic household (as evidenced by the altar, that cruciform window at the end of the hallway, and his hyung the priest).

We haven't heard anything about Kil-young's father yet. Was he even in the picture? Did she end up in an orphanage after her mother was killed in the line of duty? Is she following in her mother's footsteps as a single mother herself? We don't know yet. But she sure is giving me a Scully vibe. ;-)

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Ah! another X-phile. Yes, I had the Scully vibe too, especially against the enthusiastic, running-off-to-do-his-own-investigation Hwa Pyung Mulder. 😆

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@growingbeautifully
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"Ah! another X-phile."

You got that right. "I want to believe." ;-)

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great point, show hasn't addressed why hwa-pyung was chosen by park il do in the first place

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@xhuizini,

I got the impression that Hwa-pyung was targeted by the malign spirit because he was a small, vulnerable child. But perhaps Park Il-do can sense that the small child actually has the makings of a spiritually strong individual who would make an excellent host -- or a future opponent who should be neutralized before he becomes aware of his destiny as a powerful shaman.

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Ughhh, that scene where Grandpa got dragged, my heart broke, I hate seeing old people suffer T__T

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Yeay~ recap is here~
Between Priest Choi looming over HP and bad spirit at corner of the room, PC is scarier to me..
This episode is mainly a setup for them to meet each other and eventually band together. I like HP and KGY light banter but I'm pretty sure that will change the moment she realized who he is. But as much as I like seeing them together, I prefer if this drama is love line free. I want horror not horror/rom com. Give me all the ghosts, bad spirits, exorcism etc, keep away the love line. And can we make Priest Yoon appear in every episode please? Him appearing only on even number episode displease me.

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How is this woman detective still a doubting Hwa-Pyung after all these facts?
Today's episode was considerably tame compared to the previous episodes, not that I am complaining. OCN never fails to deliver.
The dream of Park Il-Do and Hwa-Pyung kind of freaked me out. Kudos to the possessed Priest Choi. The priest looking at him from above was the creepiest, expressionless but with the most creepiest eyes.
I'm curious when and how the three are going to figure out their connection with each other?
I need more of Kim Jae-Wook scenes, 80% of us are here because of Kim Jae-Wook.

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Thank you @odilettante for the recap and for putting up with scary scenes 😘.
Agghh won't it be Wednesday already .

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Yay thanks for the recap odilettante! Is it bad of me to absolutely love a mystery/crime/horror drama yet kinda wish for a love line (or a hint of) between Kil-young and Hwa-pyung? I just love their dynamic so much already. I'm particularly excited for the chemistry between all three of our leads as well.

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No, no love line, please writer, don’t do that.

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Thank you for the recap, @odilettante .. this is the closest to the Guest i can get myself to 😹😹😹 may someday i have enough courage to pick up where i left off 😂

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This episode was more bearable but that dream scene was pretty scary. Missing Kim Jae Wook this episode but like the interactions between hwa pyung and Gil young. The female detective is also growing on me especially her begrudging belief in Hwa Pyung’s seemingly nonsense talk.

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so i might be the only scared cat watcher that thought that this episode was scary albeit less scarier than the first two.

the vision Hwa-Pyung had with his grandfather, is it not the same with the vision he sees with other victims, i mean how could he just leave him alone like that?

also wooried about yoon's character like he might snap or something, hopefully if that ever happens Kil-young and Hwa-pyung should be able to help him.

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I'm guessing that with his grandfather, he was sure it was a normal nightmare or night terror. He probably can tell the difference between a prophetic vision and a dream. He seems to get the visions when he is awake, I think?

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Haha I'm with you that the scariness meter went up this episode. Priest Choi really really scares me. Every time he appears, my pillow also goes up to cover my eyes.

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Thanks for the recap!
I absolutely agree about Yoon's dark side. Especially during episode 2 at the beginning of that exorcism in the hospital, I personally sensed a deep rage within his character.
I cannot wait when these three truly work together (and ffs, more Kim Jae Wook please!!)

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Omg, I didn't get a loveline sense at all, now I'm kind of horrified it will happen. Not because they don't have chemistry, but because it's weird.

That being said I'm a fan of the writing for Kil-Young. She is no damsel in distress. None of this starting out as a badass and then becoming useless in the end(to be fair we just started, but I believe I'm right on this). She will be a badass to the end, saving the priest and thr psychic, while kicking butt and taking names.

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@kafiyah-bello
About Kil Young remaining brave, in control and able to take care of herself. I certainly hope so!!! 😉

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Thanks for your recap and comments, odilettante!

And thank you for clearing up Hwa-pyung's role in the deaths in his village. It had not been clear to me that he was responsible for the deaths of his mother and grandma. Now I understand why other villagers freak out when they see him. I was under the impression that he may not have done anything to Mom, Grandma, or Grandpa, but that whichever spirit(s) possessed him jumped out and attacked his kin. I didn't imagine that he tossed his mother into the sea, or lynched Grandma, or stabbed Gramps all by himself.

I'm getting a chicken-and-egg vibe as to Park Il-do's possession of weak and vulnerable humans. He seems to be attracted to intellectually vulnerable individuals. Both the shaman, who told him about Park Il-do's coming to their village, and Min-gu, who works at the junkyard, seem to have homing beacons that attract malign spirits to them.

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@pakalanapikake
I was under the impression that Grandpa was stabbed by Woong Jin who was the first to be possessed when he was in the sea.

It was never shown how Hwa Pyung's mother ended up in the sea after she was out looking for Hwa Pyung. Nor was there any link given in the scene of grandma's hanging with Hwa Pyung. I was confused too!

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@growingbeautifully,

You're right -- it was Woong Jin, the guy who told Hwa-pyung the story about Park Il-do, who stabbed Gramps. I'd gotten a faint inkling that he was a little bit simple, but not to the degree that Min-gu in the junkyard is.

Actually, I was confused and thought that it was Hwa-pyung's maternal grandfather who was stabbed and killed; his paternal grandfather and father survived. I couldn't keep track of all the people. The sense I had was that it was Mom's family who were shamans, and Dad's kin were not. I don't know where I got that impression.

The only conclusion I was able to draw when Mom and Grandma died was that Park Il-do was responsible, and that he had first taken over Woong Jin, and then jumped to Hwa-pyung before moving on to attack the others.

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Well here we are in the same boat of mild confusion 😆. At least as we talk it out we may clear up a few things along the way! 😄

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Thank gosh for this!!! Same thing has been bothering me, I was trying to figure out which side was shaman's & thought it was the mother's too !? Don't know why either. Thanks sooo much for this guys! Looking forward. Cheers from Canada in 2023!

I am watching this on Netflix & I JUST found it --- now it is leaving in 3 days... I am only on episode 4 ... Omg I am going to be busy, but this is just so great!

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Yes, about the intellectually vulnerable - I just re-watched the part in Ep 1 where Woong Jin was telling Hwa Pyung about Park Il Do. It was also a man who looked mentally ill who came to the village, and after that, people began to disappear. He was found to be possessed by Park Il Do.

So Priest Choi may have had some other issues besides a weird upbringing?

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@growingbeautifully,

Thanks for clarifying the stabbing in Hwa-pyung's village, and also determining that Park Il-do's original host had been mentally challenged when he arrived in the village.

I have a feeling that compromised free will is a determining factor in the Guest's ability to put a host into thrall.

Priest Choi has issues, but we have not yet seen enough of his back story to determine what they are. He sounded most unhappy about apparently being forced into religious life by his father, who if I recall correctly, had a drinking problem. Growing up in an alcoholic family is more than sufficient to account for vulnerability to a spiritual predator such as Park Il-do or his subordinate spirits. Other family members become spiritually and emotionally warped from living in the presence of an active addict -- but don't have to drink to get that way. That could also account for Yoon's dark side. Birth order influences the ways in which children in such families relate to the situation, with elder siblings often able to recall good times before disease progression completely enveloped the addicted parent. Younger siblings often experience only the bad, and have no good memories to offset it. Plus individual temperament comes into play.

IIRC, there was no mother in the Choi household. I wonder why not. Did she die in childbirth? Is that why Dad drinks? Or did she run away because Dad became alcoholic? Or something else?

I got the impression at that first exorcism that Priest Choi was doing his best to help, but was too empathetic and therefore vulnerable to the malign spirit. His protectiveness towards his little brother may have been the chink in his armor that the Guest sought out. Perhaps Priest Choi realized this on some level, and later purposely ran away to keep Yoon safe. Or I maybe have it all wrong, and there was serious sibling rivalry with his extremely cute little bro. Or anger at him for being the cause of Mom's death and Dad's descent into the bottle?

Now I think I'll have to go back and rewatch from the beginning. I have to keep reminding myself that there's probably a lot of subtext that I'm missing because I'm not Korean. Even if it catches my eye, I can't interpret it the same way a native would.

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@pakalanapikake

LOL ... in my re-watch, I believe I caught sight of someone in the house who looked like Priest Choi's mum. She was in and out of the scene so fast it was easy to miss her. There was a whole lot of dishes of food on the table just before the old folks were beaten to death. There were 2 bloody people lying on the ground. So I believe the mum was another victim.

I did not see any sign or read any subtitles about the father being an alcoholic though.

I also paused scene and looked closely at the side board on which the family had place many religious articles. They looked normal to me. Holy pictures, icons, 2 candles and a crucifix or two but nothing out of the ordinary. So I was wondering about your reference to something that was not quite right on the 'religious' front in that family. 😄

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@growingbeautifully,

Now I have to go back and rewatch. I may have crossed my wires and confused him with a character in another drama. -- Duh, it was Hwa-pyung's father who was hitting the bottle after Mom drowned. Sheesh. I had a hard time keeping the two kids straight in my mind.

Maybe my own life experience is intruding. I can recall getting a subtle but strange look from an older non-Catholic friend from college visiting my home for the first time and getting a gander at the array of statuary and religious art in the living room. It had never occurred to me that it would be out of the ordinary. But when I thought about it later, it did seem to be excessive. Her reaction made me feel as if I were living in a church or something. LOL.

Getting back to the show, the biggest tip-off to me is that Priest Choi sounded as if he didn't have a choice about his vocation. I guess I'm kind of sensitive about that, too, as one of my great-grandfathers was a teaching brother for seven years, but bailed out before taking Holy Orders. His father never spoke to him again. I wouldn't be here if he'd followed through! Hence my excessive interest in free will and issues of conscience. ;-)

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Well, I guess it's maybe how religious articles are displayed that may have interested your friend or friend is just not used to seeing them, except in a church.

I only have a few out here and there, and lots more in a display case. My friends do better with nice prayer table setups and light a candle when they are home.

Regardless of which vocation it might be, there should be a calling and not a 'being forced into it'. The latter actually is probably the opposite of vocation. Well, it's good that your ancestor stood his ground, although a pity the elder was not able to see the wisdom of his choice.

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As I mentioned before, PC looking at Hwa-Pyung was creepy. Other than that, it is pretty good episode. I guess the possessive father is now a caretaker or whatever he is to take care of Lady in Red in Ghost Detective.😱😳 Yes, I watched it last night. It is not that creepy drama so far.

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I am really enjoying the dynamic between Hwa-pyung and Kil-young, and will not be disappointed if the writers keep this romance free. These two have enough on their plates without adding that to it. That said, I cannot wait until our Scooby gang figures out who they are and their connection, and start working together to take down the big bad demon. The cop, the priest, and the previously possessed cabbie all bring their own special skills to the table (at a coffee shop?), and hopefully they will bicker with each other while they hunt for Park Il-do.

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subway.
at the subway.
there is no way subway oppa will not insert itself in this especially after what happened in the ghost detective~
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@superwhopotterlock @pakalanapikake @egads @kafiyah-bello @waadmay @greenfields @xhuizini @inkcityxx @ryunami @loretta-hing @mimu1234 @hanie @kurama

After thinking about the sequence of events, in Episode 1, I'm beginning to question if Hwa Pyung was actually really possessed by Park Il Do or any spirit. He got 'sick', couldn't see through his right eye and he wandered around at night. It was other people who imputed that he was possessed, in particular the shaman who said that he should be killed. What he did say was that there was something in the corner of the room who threatened to kill everyone if he spoke of it. So maybe that's what happened, by speaking of that 'thing', his mother and grandmother were killed.

When the priests came, the exorcist said that HP was not possessed. Priest Choi stayed to listen to HP, and got possessed by Park ie that the evil 'thing' in the corner. Without Park in his home, HP recovered, but he found that in Choi's body, it had gone off to murder families through possession of their family members.

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You're right, i did feel it that way when i watched the starting of ep 1 but just follow the popular vote when most characters in the drama make it sounds like he was possessed.

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Interesting theory. I assume he was possessed because of his eye and what happened to his mother. I thought he pushed her due to his action (around min 12 of ep01). Quite logical too if Park Ildo tried to posses him but young HP can see spirits right? So, he probably saw him coming. But what makes Park Ildo possessed PC tho? Why possessed instead of killing? Because PC has enough resentment that he can latch onto itself?

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If we go by our Beanies' theories... Park latches on to those who are weak in some way, or mentally ill (or both?) Maybe those who already have a great resentment towards family and are likely to be easy to push into murder. PC could have been one such weak person who came into Park's 'territory', so he just possessed him and got him onto a killing rampage. All guesswork of course!!! : ->

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Gosh..This is so true. And based on something in ep 4, I think you've made a very true point.

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I think the opening of ep1 said something similar, so plausible theory. I cant wait for ep4 recap tbh. I want to comment more about the possession but it might become ep4 spoiler if I post it here..

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Honestly, I'm completly lost in the possession part. Between the weak demons and Park Il Do, possessed or not, etc all is very confusing.

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@growingbeautifully,

Thanks for pointing out that the mudang who said Hwa-pyung was possessed and should be killed was wrong. That experience colors Hwa-pyung's approach to dealing with malign spirits as he tries to eject them from their human hosts.

I'm also wondering if his being blind in one eye was a sympathetic response to the possessed host, Woong Jin.

So Park Il-do really did make good on his threat to kill everyone if Hwa-pyung said anything about it. Thus the child had no memory of killing (because he didn't). But he could see that he had been used by the Guest to possess Priest Choi.

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@pakalanapikake
Yes, you could be right. He's definitely more sympathetic towards the possessed, constantly insisting that Yook Gwang be on standby to exorcise, and now adding Priest Yoon to the list of exorcists that he wants to have on call.

One eye turning opaque black or stabbed in seems to be on the 'to do' list of the demon. Also the itchy neck, the thirst... and I'm not sure, but PC had a stiff walk and one sided way of leaning as he walked. I didn't really notice this with the other possessed ones. Young Soo on the contrary was able to abandon wheelchair and bound about. So, maybe the stiff gait is not really part of it. Just thought Woong Jin and PC both exhibited it.

I'm re-watching the first 2 episodes as I FFDed a lot before. Maybe I'll notice something I missed!!!

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I just saw this , and in my opinion and from what I gathered and understood of what we saw this far PID is a powerful spirit and apparently he controls other spirits too and if you remember, and maybe they move in together unless he wants to stay alone in a host and Young Soo seemed like he was possessed by multiple spirits , although Hwa Pyung himself said he was possessed by PID and I believe he knows what he's talking about but maybe because of his psychic abilities PID couldn't take full control over his tiny body back then hence the illness and bruises because it was a battle over control and that's why he moved to Priest Choi .
Am I making sense guys ,my ideas are all over the place and I can't express it coherently yet 😊

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@waadmay
I'm re-watching Ep 2 and yes, Young Soo had multiple demons (all having a conversation which was quite enlightening). They claimed that they chose him and his family because he was resentful and upset that his wife was desperate over the fate of the family. He had a thought that it would be good to kill his family and commit suicide, so the demons decided to possess him, and get that job done 'for him'.

Hwa Pyung keeps saying he was once possessed, but I'm not entirely convinced. He is definitely of shaman material, used to see spirits and now gets visions. He may be naturally strong enough to inhibit the spirits so that he cannot easily be possessed. You may be right in how he got the bruises and cuts. When HP was sick, he could see (I guess it was), PID in the corner. So he was not possessed by PID, at least not for long, if at all.

PC presented himself as a better vehicle for the demon(s), and got possessed.

The confusion is over whether PID is there together with the other demons or not. All the possessed exhibited similar traits but they were inhabited by more than 1 demon. Young Soo's demons actually conversed with Hwa Pyung as if PID was absent. If he is the controlling spirit, then it's not likely the others would be allowed to reveal much in his presence.

Wild guesses: Either it's when PID is present in the person that all the traits crop up (the thirst, scratching and eye stabbing in particular) or, each trait is related to a separate demon. When they are all present, the possessed person will exhibit all those traits. 😜

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This episode was surprisingly not that scary :). I watched in the evening, and still could sleep soundly that night.

My favourite interaction between Hwa-pyung & Kil-Young:
KY: "My daughter is on the 6th grader."
HW: "I divorced twice."
:))

Oh, I love KDW as Hwa-pyung. He's so playful!

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For some reason, I want to see KY's daughter and HP's ex-wives!!! :D

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Thanks for the recap @odilettante! I thought this episode was scary, shows what a scaredy-cat I am. That dream where grandfather got dragged away scared me and reminded me of the plastic covered corpses in Voice *eeek*. Can't wait for the trio to be on the same page though, I think their vastly different personalities will balance each other out.

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I think there's a correlation between rise in ratings of even-no. ep and kim jae wook's longer appearances in such episodes, but of course that might just be me fancying his char lol 🤣

Also, I'm curious what happened to HP's dad. I think he's chasing demon too like his son..

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Re: Hwa-pyung's nightmare with Priest Choi

I got the impression that he was experiencing sleep paralysis, which is often accompanied by nightmares and the headaches he mentioned having.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

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That is what @waadmay concluded in an off DramaBeans conversation. The way it was set up and filmed, you could feel Hwa-pyung's panic, but when the priest appears over his head.....AAAAAHHHHHH....nope. Next time I experience sleep paralysis myself will be a bit more scary thanks to this show.

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Thanks for the mention egads , but where did you go ???
Whom am I going to discuss episodes with ???😭😭😭😭😭

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The chat was too tempting, and I wasn't getting as much work done as I should, so I need to step away for awhile. We can talk The Guest here.

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You know I tend to forget a lot .
But what you don't know that I tend to forget what I want to say if I waited for more than 5 mins and waiting for the recap will make me loose my line of thinking, thoughts whatever you call it .
And sorry for the distraction , but you should know that I will pm whenever I finish an episode 😀😀😀

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@waadmay
If it's any consolation, there are some of us always be on the recap threads to discuss the episodes. 😃

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Thanks I'll try to always remember that , but as I said while I wait for the recap to come and with my excitement degree I won't be able to hold to my thoughts , thanks anyway @growingbeautifully for the offer I will hold up you to it 😊😀

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@egads, @waadmay,

I'm glad to know I'm in good company re: the sleep paralysis hypothesis. ;-)

I counted my lucky stars last night that I didn't have a nightmare, not that I usually have them, or have had many of them. Or sleep paralysis, that I know of. I can recall having that falling sensation once or twice when stone cold sober. Very disturbing.

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You're welcome 💝💖, hope it will never happen to you .

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yes it was so well done i loved it. although i hope you won't experience sleep paralysis again and not to this level :( i've never had it but it sseems soooo scary

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i understood the dream because he visited the house and his fears of people he knows dying is present. the sleep paralysis part was super well-done, i was about to freak out with him. i always think shows like this or horror (which i didn't know i was of a fan due to my track record until like a month ago) need really tight storylines to be engaging and above campy and i'm not sure if this has it or if i'm just super obsessed with how weird it is but it's still so fun and creepy for me to watch. i need answers to everything. im waiting for the older priest's role in all this (altho im LOL that he didn't age in 20 yrs, even if he was 40 back then that makes him 60 now...)

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also this drama isn't that egregious with it really because it's an equal-opportunity killer but i am really gonna need the serial killer obsession to stop in k-dramas because serial killers are often male in general and god forbid they do a female serial killer (im not a fan of the whole "women can be evil too" line of thought cos that doesn't give us equity but STILL) but i'm really sick of seeing women being killed and in sexually violent or motivated ways. pls stop.

that being said, i love jung eun-chae's character. the whole cop being brutal thing--cops at all--isn't super appealing to me but since it is such a common trope for men (again, not saying this is equity) i'm ok with it. although i do NOT understand how she can witness all this shit and not believe in it until the end of the ep...gorl....that aside she's so beautiful oh my god

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Does anyone know the old trot song that was playing on the radio?

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I can't speak English very well but I want to ask something. In this episode there is one guy. His name is Choi Min Gu. Little brother. What is this actor's real name?

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Thank you very much. :)

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