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One Spring Night: Episodes 17-18

Most of the secrets are cleared away at last, allowing our pharmacist and librarian to start to kindle their love slowly but surely. And this slow burn is going from kindling to a steady blaze in the best way possible. But while Ji-ho and Jung-in get a chance to make some progress at last, the world around them starts to take sides. While Jung-in will always have her sisters and mothers on her side, everyone else seems to be stockpiling objections to the new love in her life, and Ji-ho’s parents have worries of their own about their son’s new relationship.

 
EPISODE 17

Ji-ho pulls up to his apartment, Ki-seok’s car waiting for him and Young-joo spying from above and reporting to Jung-in via text. Ki-seok calls out for Ji-ho to follow him to a different location, and Ji-ho returns to his car and follows. Jung-in finally calls Young-joo for a status update, and Young-joo worries that the two men are brawling in an empty parking lot somewhere.

Jung-in’s sisters see how distracted she is, and Seo-in tells Jae-in to stay with Jung-in for now and take care of her. Seo-in promises to call Jung-in, regardless of the results of her pregnancy test, and the two hug it out. Seo-in tells her sister to trust her heart and Jung-in nods, and then Seo-in swaps out Jung-in for baby sister Jae-in for a hug.

Elsewhere, Hyun-soo and Young-jae are drinking and worrying about Ji-ho. Hyun-soo demands that Young-jae call Jae-in for updates, while Young-jae retorts that Hyun-soo should have just gone with Ji-ho if he was going to worry this much. Hyun-soo is certain that Ki-seok will be driven to anger due to the circumstances, while Young-jae points out that Ki-seok’s relationship with Jung-in couldn’t have been that good to begin with if it broke apart this easily. “I know Ji-ho always had good grades, but was he any good at fighting?” Hyun-soo asks.

Cut to a park, where Ji-ho and Ki-seok sit side by side on different benches. No punches have been thrown yet, and instead Ki-seok tries to stop Ji-ho from giving him any details, as if he wants to pretend that nothing happened.

But Ji-ho proceeds to tell the story from the start, how he and Jung-in met, and how he told her from the start that he couldn’t agree to be just friends. “Did you think our relationship was a joke?” Ki-seok asks, and Ji-ho answers very seriously, “If I had thought that even once, I wouldn’t deliberately gotten caught.”

Ki-seok asks why Ji-ho did give it away eventually, and Ji-ho tells him it’s because Ki-seok looked down on him, and that his attitude towards Ji-ho is wrong, and that Jung-in isn’t right for someone with that kind of attitude.

As the men talk, Jung-in and Jae-in make their way back to their apartment, and Jung-in’s stomach is upset from all the stress. Jae-in retrieves medicine for her and Jung-in laments that she has turned into a big loser. “I hope you don’t feel as if you’ve committed a big sin,” Jae-in tells her. “It’s okay to be selfish.”

Back in the park, Ki-seok turns things around and lets Ji-ho know that he’s staying in this to protect Jung-in from making a bad mistake, and to prevent a guy like Ji-ho from destroying her life. Ki-seok asks if Ji-ho understands, and Ji-ho responds that he’s worried, since he can clearly see which one of them is going to cause more problems for Jung-in.

“Are you saying that’s me?” Ki-seok asks, and Ji-ho responds, “I know it won’t be me.”

Ji-ho lets Ki-seok know that he’s been holding himself back as Ki-seok treated him poorly, and Ki-seok gets in closer and cocks his head aggressively. “What if you hadn’t? You would’ve punched me?”

“I would have made you get on your knees,” Ji-ho says.

And now Ji-ho says it clearly, that this isn’t so much about Jung-in, but about him, and about his son. Ji-ho says that Ki-seok may judge him for that, but that he gets strength from his son. Ji-ho walks away with confidence, and Ki-seok scuttles behind him to catch up and then pass him as he lurches for his car. Ji-ho sits in his own car, taking a breath.

Jung-in sits with her head in her hands when her phone rings, but it’s Ki-seok, not Ji-ho, who wants her attention. She heads downstairs where Ki-seok waits, and he tells her to get in the car so that they can talk.

He drives them to a secluded spot and tells her that he met up with Ji-ho, and Jung-in tells him that she already knows that. Ki-seok tries again to convince her that they can just forget all of this and that nothing will change. He says that Jung-in has put up with all his mistakes, and now he can forgive her one. But Jung-in tells him directly that it wasn’t a mistake and that she has feelings for Ji-ho.

Ki-seok can’t take that confession, and he steps out of the car to get a breath. Jung-in steps out and walks around the car to join him. She reminds Ki-seok that she was trying to break up with him anyway, and now Ki-seok says sure, that might have worked before, but now that Ji-ho is involved, he won’t give up.

Ki-seok continues on that he can’t believe it’s Ji-ho of all people, and that he intends to protect Jung-in from herself and this bad situation. And Jung-in’s response is: “I’m already done with you. If you truly care about me, you shouldn’t ignore me when I say I’m done.”

She calls him out on all of his bad behavior, and tells him that he never considered that they might break up because he looked down on her. But she also tells him that she went along with it, and so she accepts that they’re both equally to blame for their relationship’s dissolution.

Ki-seok is still using Ji-ho as his defensive block, and tells Jung-in that it’s pity she feels for him, not love, and he grabs Jung-in by the shoulders to shake sense into her. And now Jung-in drops the real harsh truth. She apologizes to Ki-seok, and tells him that she pretended to love him for a while, even when her feelings were long gone.” Ki-seok’s arms drop from Jung-in’s shoulders, and then he lifts one back to pat her shoulder and tell her that they should both sleep it off.

“Nothing happened to us, okay?” he says.

“There is no us,” Jung-in responds.

Ji-ho is in his kitchen when his phone rings with Jung-in’s call. She reminds him that he was supposed to call her, and he says that he figured she would give him a call when she was available, a subtle indication that he guessed that Ki-seok would seek her out.

Jung-in notes the calm in Ji-ho’s voice, and asks him if he’s putting on an act. Ji-ho says that this situation means a lot to him, but that he’s not the type to get worked up easily. Jung-in responds that he’s a real adult, and Ji-ho reminds her that he’s been through worse circumstances before.

Jung-in asks how he managed to get through something like that when he was so young, and Ji-ho says that he thinks that time took care of it eventually. And on that note, Ji-ho says that he thinks that he and Jung-in need more time before diving in to their new relationship. He wants to respect the time that her break-up will need, and says that he’s been in that kind of pain and understands that it takes time.

The next day, Seo-in stumbles to her car, so distracted she tries to start the car without the key in the ignition. She fumbles in her bag for her keys, and instead pulls out a sonogram, confirming her pregnancy. She eats alone at home, in thought. And then we see Shi-hoon outside a restaurant, trying to stall with the real estate agent on the phone about the new clinic. Seo-in arrives and leads Shi-hoon in to talk.

Shi-hoon wonders what made Seo-in ask to get together, and Seo-in pushes an envelope of money over to him. She offers him the full amount that she will get for the apartment, if he’ll just agree to the divorce. Shi-hoon’s face drops when she proffers the envelope with the divorce papers and does his best to assure her that he will make her happy again soon. Seo-in asks him to just sign the papers so that she can stop hating him. Shi-hoon picks up the envelope, feigning as if he’ll withdraw the sheets and sign, and instead tosses it all to the floor.

EPISODE 18

Young-jae stops by Ji-ho’s for some food, and comments on how Jung-in’s friend lives in the building and how lucky with women Ji-ho is. Ji-ho gives him some deserved side-eye for that comment, and asks about Jae-in. Ji-ho asks if she was really distracting him from studying, and Young-jae admits that she was actually very thoughtful and kind. Ji-ho takes particular note when Young-jae mentions the vitamins she brought him, finally figuring out where those vitamins meant for Jung-in ended up, ha.

Ki-seok is having breakfast with his dad, and insists to the chairman that Jung-in will say yes to his proposal soon. Chairman Kwon looks skeptical though, and tells his son that times have changed and that he can’t force someone to marry him. Ki-seok reassures his father, and promises not to let him down.

Chairman Kwon goes from breakfast to a quick meeting with Jung-in’s dad in his office. Dad is nervous as always, but learns that the chairman is actually quite impressed with Jung-in. Previously so insistent that Ki-seok get married soon, now the chairman asks Dad to give their kids time to figure things out on their own.

Soon after this revelation, Jung-in’s mom runs to the library to ask Jung-in over for dinner. Mom is encouraged by how happy her husband seemed, but Jung-in tells her that things aren’t any better with Ki-seok. Jung-in turns to her mother and says that she may be disappointed with her. Mom asks what she means, and Jung-in doesn’t explain. “Just act on your beliefs,” Mom says, “and I’ll never be disappointed.”

Evening arrives, and Ji-ho rushes to leave the pharmacy. But as he turns the corner, the reason reveals itself: Jung-in waits for him around the corner of the building. He asks why she wasn’t waiting at the cafe, and she says it’s because she wanted everyone to see them together. Jung-in promptly gets her wish, as Pharmacist Wang wheels around the corner, concerned about Ji-ho’s behavior. She smiles at Jung-in as Ji-ho introduces her, and offers to tell Jung-in all sorts of juicy stories about Ji-ho. Ji-ho pushes her back towards the pharmacy door before she can reveal anything, ha.

At the cafe, Ji-ho asks what’s gotten into Jung-in, and she replies that it’s the spring breeze. They tease and talk, and Ji-ho says again that he wants to take things slowly so that he can’t mess anything up. Jung-in tells him that actually, there are things that he doesn’t know about her, and that she’s in big trouble.

Ji-ho’s eyes turn serious as he waits for her confession, and Jung-in takes a big breath and says: “I… love you, Ji-ho.” Ji-ho can’t take it, and he stands up and walks out of the cafe to the street. Jung-in follows behind, and discovers him trying to hold in tears. She pokes and teases him, and soon the two are wrestling in each others arms and smiling.

Meanwhile, Ki-seok agrees to treat the guys at work to some drinks and food. Hyun-soo tries to decline at first, but Ki-seok ropes him in. Once at the restaurant, Ki-seok pulls Hyun-soo away to ask about Hyun-soo’s cagey behavior.

Hyun-soo points out that his awkward position should be obvious, and Ki-seok smiles and says that nothing has changed, not between them or with Ji-ho either. He says that friends are important, but reminds Hyun-soo that he should be important to him too, and that he should know how to show him respect. Ugh, this sounds so ominous and menacing.

And in Shi-hoon’s corner of the world, he’s grabbing dinner with Jung-in’s Dad. Shi-hoon pretends everything is fine, and only startles a little when Dad suggests that he and Seo-in should think about having kids soon. Dad brings up Jae-in, and Shi-hoon lets it slip that Jae-in is back in Korea. Uh oh.

At work the next day, Jung-in is accosted by her mother, who is upset that Dad has discovered that Jae-in is back. Jung-in offers to bring Jae-in over to their house when she comes for dinner as planned. Mom brings up how happy Dad was about Ki-seok and Jung-in, and Jung-in finally drops the news that she has broken up with Ki-seok. This news is big enough that Mom drags Jung-in away from work to talk.

Mom asks for further explanation, and Jung-in admits that she likes someone else. Jung-in starts to suggest that her mom might be disappointed that she cheated, but Mom says immediately that the details are none of her business. Mom wants to know about the new guy, but Jung-in isn’t ready to reveal everything.

The day ends and Ji-ho offers to drive Pharmacist Wang home before he heads over to his parents’ place. Pharmacist Wang recalls the last time that Ji-ho visited them, and she says that she can see Ji-ho’s mom’s concerns. But Ji-ho is determined now to hold his ground, and tells Pharmacist Wang that Jung-in is the last woman in his life. She says that he shouldn’t be so hasty to say that, but Ji-ho doesn’t budge.

Ki-seok calls Jung-in while driving home. He knows it’s her day off and wants to grab food. Jung-in asks why he’s even calling her, and tells him that she’s on her way to her parents to tell them that they’ve broken up. Ki-seok pulls the car over, and his voice rises as he asks if she’s going to tell her parents all about Ji-ho too. Jung-in asks if he’s threatening her, and Ki-seok tells her to think of it as a threat if she wants.

Jung-in hangs up on him, while Ki-seok bangs his head against the wheel in frustration. Jae-in, at her sister’s side, offers to go to their parents’ alone, and says she’s worried that Jung-in will admit everything and rile their dad up even more. Jung-in promises though that she won’t and the two head in to do battle together.

At their house, Jung-in and Jae-in sit with their heads cast down while Dad berates them. The topic quickly shifts from Jae-in’s deception to Jung-in and her meeting with Chairman Kwon. Jung-in clarifies to Dad that she told the chairman she has no intention of marrying Ki-seok specifically, and also that she’s ending things with Ki-seok. Dad rages on, especially when Jung-in says she’s looking for someone with a warm heart. Dad says that she’ll never find such a thing, and Jung-in pleads, “If at least one person understands me, will you approve of it?” Dad hesitates, and Jung-in admits that there’s someone else that she likes.

Other at another family meeting, Ji-ho’s mom fusses over her son before bringing up the woman she wants to set him up with again. Mom resists again, saying that she’s doing this for Eun-woo’s sake. As their voices rise, Eun-woo wakes up and interrupts the discussion.

Ji-ho tucks his son back into bed and follows his dad out to the store for a drink. Dad asks Ji-ho to forgive them, and says they can only think of Eun-woo’s best interests. Ji-ho says that he’s been thinking of that too, and Dad asks Ji-ho what it is about this woman that he likes so much. Ji-ho replies that Jung-in was the first person to see him just as himself. Dad smiles at that.

Jung-in’s phone rings as she arrives home, and she leaves Jae-in at the door as she rushes back downstairs. Standing outside is Ji-ho, and she jumps into his arms. Ji-ho’s eyes widen in surprise at first, and then his whole face relaxes into a happy smile as he holds her tightly.

They make their way to the park and sit on the bench, holding hands tightly. Ji-ho says that he’s wondering why he didn’t hold her hand sooner. Jung-in tells him that she likes the way they are right now, and Ji-ho says that he’s not satisfied with it. After a look, he leans in and gives Jung-in a sweet kiss on the lips.

Jung-in looks into his eyes and teases him a bit, about him taking her hug and jumping right to hand-holding and kisses. But she’s smiling, and now she’s prepared to return his kiss as they both lean in again for a deeper, longer kiss.

All that making out has lead to carb-cravings, so it’s off for bread and jazz. The pair tease and flirt, and Jung-in makes as if to eat all of their dessert alone. But it’s really just a ploy to lure Ji-ho to her side of the table, and now they sit together side by side, Ji-ho’s arms around her as they easily talk and laugh together. But the jazz band includes some of Ki-seok’s old band friends, and Ki-seok soon parks outside the restaurant.

Ji-ho and Jung-in hold hands as they exit together, but their smiles fade away when they spot Ki-seok approaching. Jung-in moves to take care of the situation, but Ji-ho takes her arm to stop her, and he approaches Ki-seok instead.

 
COMMENTS

Ack, there’s so much willful pride sloshing around in these episodes! Ki-seok is hurting and flailing, and this final moment outside the restaurant is proof that there are others that will take his side in this whole mess along the way.

It’s as if Ki-seok has already taken a look at how him holding on desperately looks, and he’s managed to dig himself a real nice hole of denial to live in. He’s cast off that blame onto Ji-ho, and it’s going to be sadly easy for him to convince so many others that he’s right. He’s been denying Jung-in of her own feelings for so long, and it’s been working. He doesn’t know how to handle it any other way. And people like Jung-in’s dad will be all too eager to agree.

And Ki-seok is making this desperate move because he knows that Ji-ho is right. He knows that Jung-in will be the one who gets hurt in this battle of wills, but Ki-seok just can’t admit that he’ll be the cause of it. Because Jung-in is right too. Ki-seok looks down on her, he doesn’t consider her feelings as much as he considers his own. It’s not about protecting Jung-in for him, no matter how hard he tries to dress it up like that. It’s about Ki-seok protecting this version of himself he’s built.

There’s this layer of his father’s disappointment for Ki-seok as well. I get the feeling that Ki-seok has felt like a disappointment to his father his whole life and still does, even though he’s dropped his own dreams to pursue the life his father would prefer for him. Now that Chairman Kwon sees Jung-in as valuable, this has become a matter of proving his worth to his dad as well. Even while he knows that his dad already thinks he’s a loser who can’t win Jung-in’s heart. And his dad is right, just for perhaps the wrong reasons. It’s Ki-seok’s lack of heart in the relationship, brought on by all his efforts to live life as society demands it of him, that’s turned Jung-in off, and it’s that conformity to society that makes him look real shady right now. Ki-seok wants to know that all these sacrifices were worth it, and he sees keeping Jung-in as proof of it. But it’s clear that even if they did get married, it wouldn’t make either of them happy.

On the one hand, watching two dudes swing their pride around at each other isn’t particularly interesting to me, but I’m glad that in the end Ji-ho made the confrontation with Ki-seok about just the two of them, rather than about Jung-in. It doesn’t mean that Jung-in won’t get trapped in the middle of it all, but at least Ji-ho sees it for what it is and is willing to voice it. Ji-ho might have been less brazen and confrontational with Ki-seok, but Ki-seok showed his true colors a few too many times. I also like that while Ji-ho is soft-spoken and doesn’t anger quickly, the things he says are strong. He doesn’t come off as meek, just respectful.

I’ll confess, I was terrified for a lot of these scenes, because there is such an undercurrent of contained violence, especially from Ki-seok. I’m not alone either; all of their friends assumed that Ki-seok and Ji-ho headed off to decimate one another in a parking lot. But these moments, when Ki-seok demands that Jung-in go off with him alone in his car, when she says something he doesn’t want to hear and he throws open his door to get out, I wince as if there has been violence. Ki-seok hasn’t been violent, but there’s something about his behavior that feels like it’s moments away from it.

Touch is a big deal in this episode. As Ki-seok pleads his case to Jung-in, he grabs her shoulders, then drops them away as his anger escalates, and then returns a hand to her shoulder as he tries to reconcile and deescalate. Jung-in, in response, holds firm and pulls away from him. His movements are possessive, while hers match her words to him: the feelings are long since gone.

When Ji-ho arrives at Jung-in’s apartment, she’s the first to embrace him, and his eyes tell us so much about his feelings in that moment. He’s surprised and exhilarated, unfamiliar with an act of tenderness that’s been absent from his life for so long. And then they move forward to holding hands, then those kisses, and my favorite moment, when they lounge against each other comfortably on the same side of the table at the restaurant. It’s mutual, it’s forward motion, and it’s gentle.

Besides all the drama, this episode is bursting with sweet moments like this. We move from more familiar moments, such as Jung-in and Ji-ho’s phone conversations and the cafe, to less familiar territory, like Jung-in waiting in the open to meet Ji-ho after work, embraces after long days spent with family, and of course, kissing.

What I liked most about Ji-ho and Jung-in’s first impromptu date is how we got only a bird’s eye view of it. We weren’t right in there, hearing their every sweet flirtation. Instead, the couple had their backs to us most of the time in the restaurant, just two shadows dancing together in the happiness of new love. I was happy to give them this moment of privacy, since the drama plays out in excruciating detail. I hope they get more of this, even as everyone else tries to break it all down.

Except for Jung-in’s amazing sisters of course. Seo-in, please just move both of your sisters in! You all should be living together and caring for one another. Move Mom in too while you’re at it. I want a fortress of these ladies keeping themselves happy.

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i guess i am the only one who thinks what jung ni did was unethical unhealthy and selfish. it i unethical because she cheated on her boyfriend. unhealthy because she jump from one relationship to another. and selfish because when her father works for his boyfriend's father she should tries her best for smooth break up so it doesn't hurt his fother

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To me it wasn't cheating: she simply fell in love when her relationship with Ki-seok was already dead and broke up with him before starting things with Ji-ho. And her father is an adult, if he can raise his voice and think that he can choose how the others must live, he can handle his own life without his daughter's help.

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The border between cheating and not is pretty blurred in this case. Her relationship with Ki Seok was over long before Jiho, it just she didn't realize it. For the father, he shouldn't be a condition to her love relationship! And she was very clear with the chairman/Ki Seok's father, she won't marry his son. It's only Ki Seok and her father who don't want to accept the truth.

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I can agree to your jumping from one relationship to another bit but others not!
Their relationship was cold ... There was nothing there so breaking up would be right.
But continuing a relationship just for your parents is pure stupid

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She repeatedly told her Ki seok that she wanted to end things and he refused to accept it. He still has not and she moved on and look what his happening. It was a no win and she does not deserve to have all of this on her shoulders.

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her father clearly sees us as way up the ladder, she is not a pawn and when she met his superior she clearly pleaded him to let him out ofthis conflict which he understood

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Get over it. In real life these things happen. She had already told him she wanted to finish with him but he just wouldn't accept it. So when a new guy comes into the picture. Get on it grab it with both hands. He might be the one who going to make your dreams come true. Test out the waters. He hadn't even given her a ring. He hasn't made a commitment to her. They don't live together. Just sleeps with her occasionally when HE feels like it. No way is this love. They are just dating. Going steady maybe. His parent don't even like her. Dating is the time for testing your feelings. For sure its going to wake up the ex and maybe he'll make better moves. Thing is though, in New Zealand (where I'm from) it can be a dangerous thing to do. Many male ex's have killed the female ex for less.

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I really have no words for this drama, so I'll just say that I love it very much and I appreciate your recaps, @abirdword!

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Thanks for the recap and the insightful comment.
I think we had a hint of Ki-seok's violence when he grabbed Jung-in outside her apartment, when Ji-ho and his friend were there. It's uncomfortable.

I start feeling more and more tempted to FF Ki-seok's / Si-hoon's / the dads' scenes. Seriously, what's wrong with these men? To them women are invisible, mute and brainless.
They think they can force a woman to do everything.
I'm glad the drama is showing women that don't accept all this.

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Ki-Seok and his dad, I think Ki-Seok's dad doesn't disrespect women, but he mistrusts his son's every decision and this mistrust is the root of all problems for Ki-Seok. This mistrust meant that whatever Ki-Seok does, that action should be able to impress his father, he got a girlfriend and left music, leaving music impressed his father but his father still mistrusted his son's choice of the girlfriend and never met her or asked about her. You also see this in the beginning.
Then when the dad met Jung-in he realised how Jung in as a person and he did not tell his son the truth that Jung in doesn't want to marry him, because he mistrusts his son will give up and break down. He himself understand and values the strengths of Jung in but what he failed was to teach his son how to see and keep these values. His son is now stuck in a world where he has lost his girlfriend and if he doesn't gain her back he will again lose his father's respect. For Ki-Seok Jung in his last chance to win a fight with his father, which his father is not fighting but he has already been declared the loser.
This is bad parenting: the father is not a bad person nor does he disrespect strong women but the mistrust he has in every one else which also comes from the high opinion he keeps of himself and the way he looks down on others give rise to a son, who has now even as a protective mechanism developed a way of not respecting even his girlfriend's opinion. He was never taught oh what to filter and what to change when given a feedback.
This is the way the patriarchal society works and functions, and it starts with bad parenting.

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The sad thing about Ki-seok is that I wonder if his dad might have respected him more had he stuck and fought for his original dream.

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The more we see Ki-Seok's dad the more I totally agree with this. It almost feels like he's waiting for his son to grow some backbone, take the reigns of his own life, forge his path... but KS always has his head up looking around to see what other people are thinking of him.

As much as Chairman Kwon is totally old school and frustrating, I do feel a bit like he's a wild card. He may do something surprising and against the normal order of things. Even just based on how much Jung-In's made an impression on him.

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Agree on Chairman Kwon acting as surprise twist. As much as I love the strong, fighting spirit of the female characters, I have a feeling he will be the one to placate all these tiresome male antagonism.

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The relationship between Ki Seok and his father is interesting. Ki Seok wants to please him when I think the father wants his son to be strong and to stand for himself. Ki Seok seems very lonely. He doesn't really have a cercle of friends. There are his work colleagues or basketball's friends, but there is some distance caused by his statut of boss or sunbae.

I liked how Jiho won't accept any attack against his son. His mother should know better that he won't choose a woman who won't be perfect for his son. I love how Jiho shows all his emotions now, it's so different from every male leads in drama.

They're officially a couple ! \o/
They're so cute together! I like how slow things setting up little by little.

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Let's talk about Jae-in and her break up, we don't know what happened in France, but girl I was really glad that Jae-in was respectful of Yongjae wishes and did not go stalking him. Either way, she is my new favourite finally in the series, I love bold she is and speaks clearly without any useless additions orsugar coating.
The older sister is holding strong, just keep up sis, and you will be free soon.

To all calling Jung in cheating, selfish and whatever, no for me it is not so. I find it amazing that people are so fast to blame women: Jung in's father is never called selfish, Ki-seok's father is never called out for being selfish and raising his son wrong and Ki-Seok is never even seen to be disrespectful and selfish. If a woman takes the decision in her interest and tries her best to mitigate the situation she is called selfish and what not. This is 21 St century and I am proud of my girl here, she is doing great and no I don't want her to live with those men back in 12th century. No Sir, never

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if you turn a table and for example my boyfriend tell me i fall in love with some one else and by the way i wasnt in love with you for so long and i just never told you so. i would never forgive him .

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It's the difference between not forgiving and not accepting. She doesn't ask for his forgiveness but to listen to her and to respect her decision.

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i think she hurts him and if he wants revenge it is understandable. all i am saying is the fact that she is dating happily while ki seok is hurting so bad is not fair. she should handle the situation better

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Yes and no. She didn't date with Jiho in front of him on purpose, it was an accident.
I think if she waited before to date Jiho, it would give false hopes to Ki Seok.

Relationships are not fair, I agreed.

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*revenge is a too big word and has big connotation.
What is justifiable, so you say revenge porn is ok, because she asked him for a break up and feel in love with another guy?

Life is never fair, you have to learn to accept it, this is the difference between a mature person and an immature one. We don't live to compare with others being more happy than us, because that just makes us unhappy. This is what Ki-seok was never taught. He is not a loser. When a person changes heart does not necessarily mean that you have lost a battle. The decision the other person made is not from a moral high ground (which is what Ki-seok think the decision means: He is really worse guy who lost his gf to a guy with a son, so much patronizing behavior, which he shows as a result,feeds back into the loop).

She should handle the situation better

Easier said than done. Its easy to Judge from the far side and hard to make decisions. No one is perfect, yes she could do better, she could in first place never be dating Ki-seok, she could just be clear in the first place and told him that there is some one else. She could do a lot, its a lot easy to see in hindsight. But to be with a person for a long time who does not respect your opinion, or even listens to it, it very convenient to take the easy way and start by lying about things, since the other person is going to be in his own world. She thought it would hurt less, if she breaks without telling him the truth that she was in love with another person. She was wrong, she realized it and did correct her mistake. No one is perfect and that's what I like about this show, if you made a mistake, you can correct it. It does not make you a selfish person, but it makes you a human and definitely a better human.

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Yes, definitely. Hmm, will I forgive or not depends on many things but one thing is for sure, I will not run after him with a ring or declare that I will still marry him and it was just a "happening". I know I am flawed and if the other person wants to leave, they should be allowed to do so for whatever reason. They don't have the responsibility to mend all my flaws or parent me to a better human. Relationship is not a DIY workshop, where you get a clay pack and you make him/her into your dream person.

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but after 4 years of dating shouldn't she respect his feeling more and wait till the break up was official and then start dating again in this way she break his heart and crush his pride too

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"Pride"
Its the most interesting word you bring up, (I have to say that I am glad that we are having this discussion here, because we should be talking about these things a lot more, thanks)

The male pride:
The words which defines patriarchy the best. The world where every woman has to walk on egg shell because she can't hurt a man's pride.
She is not free to wear what she like because it hurts the man pride if he can't stare at her or if she is too attractive to him, it will hurt his pride that he can't rape her. If she is too smart, she can't go to become the CEO of a company because it will hurt some man's pride.
She cannot be more successful than her husband because she will hurt his pride. Now he has the moral right to beat her up (Shi-hoon's case).
She can't even drive a car, because if she can she will run away and every woman who runs a way hurts a man pride.
A man's pride where is it till we have to carry it, till when is it till we have to carry it, how many more women will die till we get it that we are not a man's pride. How much more do we have to hurt, how much should we hide, how much foolish should we look, for them to feel secure of their pride?

I don't want me or my daughter to feel this way anymore. Because of this pride, people kill their girl child's even before they are born (if you think I am making this up, my ex-boyfriend told me that if we ever had a girl child, he will kill her because he can only deal with one smart woman in house.)

So dear, this pride knows no bounds this world taught and this is what this show is about. I don't want ever a woman to care about a man's pride. It is unacceptable in any relationship.

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That first kiss was pretty underwhelming. I thought they had a much better first date than first kiss.
I'm actually surprised Ki Seok's band mates recognise Jung In. The fact that she didn't recognize them shows they probably weren't very well acquainted in the first place. It didn't seem like they kept in touch much with Ki Seok after he quit the band either so them ratting her out seems a bit too .... convenient.

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dear oppafangirl it is not just man who have pride we women have pride too and my frustration with jung in is because i put my self in ki seok shoes and when man cheats we all get really mad but when a woman cheat we thinks she is being strong and decisive. yes in real life man are more likely to cheat and break our hurt and crush our pride but when the woman do the same thing how can this be ok?

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No, you got me wrong here, maybe I did not say it clearly enough, I wanted to say that pride has no place in a relationship. Either man or a woman. We should have self respect.
Cheating: For me this is not cheating, I recommend you to watch my ahjussi (head over to its recaps, another wonderful show) where there there is a female character who does cheat on her husband and no one defends her.
There is another show by the same director called secret love affair, which is all about cheating.

The world is not all black and white and it is a lot of grey! Here the female lead maybe threading on a grey area but it was not as if she had never asked for a break up, Ki-seok keeps on not listening and plays the victim of pride, this is not a healthy thing to do.

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i understand your view but in real life if my boyfriend ask me to break up i probably think we should try and talk about it and maybe sort thing out. as i remember he ask for the reason for break up but she said lets break up with no reason. that is not healthy too. she should talk to him convince him the break up was the only choice. but instead she insist to break up without any good reason and it seem to him that she break up with him only because he find someone new

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I recommend @beantown 's comment a few episodes back on why it should be acceptable to have a break up with out a reason.

There is also another thing to note that I said above that relationships definitely need work to be maintained but it is a two way road and it is not really fair to ask a person to change or grow as you want them to be, they are who they are and its fair enough to let them learn on their own. Its their personal homework and they should do it themselves. So, it is a very personal call to decide when to stop and what to say to that person.

Also you should see this comment in light of what went wrong in the relationship in My ahjussi of the husband and wife. It is explained very clearly there and you should compare the two situations! Its fun to watch such great dramas! We learn so much, don't we?

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First, she asked for a break. She needed time to organize her thoughts, her feelings. But he didn't listen to her. He just stomped on her feelings and acted like it was nothing.
After that, she decided to break up and again he acted like she was making a fuss.

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You seem to feel that breaking up is a two-party decision. It's not. If one person says it's over, it's over. After that point, if the other person - ki-seok - persists in trying to force them to stay in a relationship, that is harassment and stalking.

The relationship was over the first time she said it was over. It's not her job to convince him that she's right in calling it off. Anybody has the right to break up with somebody for any reason at all. This isn't a divorce that goes to a court of law, this is a relationship that works on consent. If one person withdraws consent, the other might be heartbroken, but that's life. Person A doesn't get to ask Person B to keep their life on hold so that A can get nice and used to the idea of a break-up. There's no relationship rule that says moving on happens simultaneously.

And btw even if she dumped his ass because she found somebody new? The fact that he keeps at her as if him saying 'I don't accept it' means she's still his girl makes him a real loser. During a breakup, there is no option but to accept the decision of the person choosing to break up, no matter how much it might hurt the other person. Man or woman.

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Very well said, thank you very much!

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So right. You don't have to have a reason. When you say it over. Its over. Move on.

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I don't know how many more times she had to break up with him before he got the damn picture. And he still refuses to accept it, after the relationship is over and she's even dating somebody else. I hate male characters like this.

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I admire the writer for creating a thought provoking show with carefully written character arcs.

I wonder if the writer intends to show parallelism between GiSeok and ShiHoon’s characters. Does GiSeok character being manipulative, prejudiced and prideful represent early onset of physical abuse (ShiHoon) later?

I wonder how JungIn’s dad will react to JiHo being a single parent vs his daughter’s physical abuse and possibly soon to be divorced and single mom too?

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Interesting parallel between single dad Ji-ho and single mom-to-be Seo-in.

And yes, I think Ki-seok could be as abusive as Si-hoon in the future.

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Yes! You totally read my mind.

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So I've enjoyed these last few episodes tremendously. I am also immensely proud of JiHo for standing up for himself and my baby Eun No. Ji Ho and Ki Seok fighting is more funny than anything else because it's so stupid.

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I am head over heels in love with this drama. Keeps getting better and better. Waiting is harder every week. We only live once. So we must prioritize our happiness always. Is it selfishness, maybe yes but at the end of the day it us our life not others. Jung in is a flawed character but i love her for following her heart. Love this drama to the bits.

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Agree and I’m very thankful for abirdword’s insightful observations and efforts in writing these recaps. I read somewhere that Han Ji Min mentioned that many of the lines in the drama are realistic and out there (I’m paraphrasing and perhaps not doing a good job at that), that people may have strong responses (probably against Jung in). But it is precisely that why I love Jung in - also, her feistiness and strength in fighting for her happiness when she realises what has been lacking in her love life. I see her vacillation as her journey to self-realisation and maturity. How wonderful is that to see in a drama, instead of these near-perfect characters who make choices which seem so right all the time.

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“Love this drama to the bits”
I couldn’t agree more. Even the side characters are interesting. From JungIn’s sisters and friend to JiHo’s friends and colleagues. In particular, I like Pharmacist Wang for the element of experience she brings forth and her candidness.

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Yes, my first thought was ‘all sisters move in together’!!
I like that you added mom to it :))

I love this show. The slow pacing. How the reluctant hesitant feelings finally came out.
And I think KiSeok played a huge part in this. jung-In was heaistating and trying to break up with him. She asked JiHo for time. But after multiple attempts at breaking up and seeing KiSeok completely disrespect her and ignore her feeling, she just went all out with Ji-Ho.
I see some discussions about cheating. Am ok with calling this cheating because Ji-Ho herself sees that she ill-timed. She had emotionally checked out with Ki-Seok but never bothered to end it instead did so only when Ji-Ho was already in the picture. It’s a grey area there. But it doesn’t matter. Even without Ji-Ho they both would have never married. Their break up was inevitable.
The woman is looking out for her happiness and I applaud her for that. I hope she doesn’t crumble as the Society throws bricks at her.

I love how Ji-ho is slowly showing his strength and standing up for himself. When Ki-Seok thrust money into Eun-o’s pocket I cringed. It was such a patronizing act. His sense of privilege is so strong that he thinks he is above the rest. And now that’s what is hurting him the most. His pride. Not his love. If he couldn’t let go of her because of his love her I get it. But no. He thinks he is protecting her from destroying herself. Dude, she is a grown up adult and she can take care of herself. Back off!

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I agree with respect to Ki-Seok. He cannot accept that Ji-Ho is the new person in Jung-In's life, and in different ways, he has been so condescending to both of them.

Ki-Seok does not have any respect for Ji-Ho as a single father, and so does not accept the relationship between Jung-In and Ji-Ho. Had Jung-In gotten involved with someone with what Ki-Seok perceived as being of a higher status than him – doctor, lawyer, bank manager, chaebol, etc. – I think Ki-Seok would have been more accepting.

With regard to Jung-In, Ki-Seok is not prepared to respect her views and choices. His ego comes first. Sadly, and to some degree, I think that is Jung-In's own fault, because she had relented on several issues/problems – perhaps when she shouldn't – during the course of relationship, and she has admitted as much in many of the conversation she and Ki-Seok have had since she announced that they should break up.

It is thus just unfortunate that where Ki-Seok is concerned, he is likely to continue to stir up trouble for our couple, all thanks to his ego.

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He is going to go ahead with marriage plans like nothing happened. He is going to make life miserable for Jung-in. She has to deal with parents even before she has a chance to establish her relationship with JiHo.
Her father, her brother in law and Ki-Seok are going to make everyone miserable. I really hope JungIn can fight these men. She has got her sisters for now. I don’t know how her mother will react to a single father being a prospective son in law.
Jun Ho’s friends - I am sure they will stand by him. It was such a scum move on Ki-seok’s part to make his junior uncomfortable and asking him to side with him. Really? Dude thinks social standing and respect is more important than friendship since high school. Clearly shows why he never made any lasting friendships.

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At this point, KiSeok is just digging his own grave acting the way he is now. As much as I would like to empathize with him for his “loss” and his going through stages of grief, I just can’t. His actions and words are bordering on psycho and delusional. And the way he treats people as beneath him is so annoying.

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I was one of those people who empathized with Ki-Seok during the earlier episodes and hoped he got a decent closure from Jung-In.
Now I don’t think he deserves anything. He is going to hit rock bottom. I hope someday he realizes why his own father doesn’t respect him. It’s his lack of self reflection that causes him to be so dumb and stubborn. He has learnt nothing from his life experiences.

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I might get bashed for this, but I’ve personally experienced many instances that have been portrayed in the show. Humans are intrinsically flawed, and I would like to think many of us, if not all, have made regrettable, immature and/or inappropriate decisions in our lifetime. But the point is to grow and mature from these experiences. I think this show is awesome and painfully realistic. While I can understand the criticisms towards the female lead’s choices, I hold back judgment because hindsight it 6/6.Kudos to the leads, and many of the other actors.

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It’s so true. This drama is very realistic that you can emphatize the characters esp the leads.

This is the best drama this year so far. It’s well written and directed. I am literally repeating every episodes and anxiously waiting for next episodes.

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Criticising the female character is as good as evading reality. Sadly many women view relationships as sense of security rather than truly loving the person esp. in an asian environment that other people perceptions matters. That was Jung In in most of the years in their relationship. The drama conveys that there is absolutely nothing wrong to be being true to yourself. In fact holding on to a relationship which is long gone is like a dreadful prison and there are so many woman who are trapped like that in real life.

I really love Jiho’s character. He is level-headed and has great sense of empathy. It takes a great deal of experience to reach that level of wisdom and maturity. I am actually just repeating how his character is as it’s clearly defines and shown.

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The problem with the cheat/no cheat argument against JI is that even if she said and meant she was breaking up with KS, she kept on meeting him at his beck and call which reaffirmed to him that they had not mutually accepted the break up but there was a hope of reconciliation. She was too wishy washy - - - she should have been stronger in her conviction.
The new problem with KS is turning his relationship with JI into a "competition" with JH. Women are not objects to be won or acquired by status. A physical confrontation and police station scene has to be in the cards.
As I said in a different post, the JI-JH first date took too long and did not have the spark and chemistry like in Pretty Noona. The best part of the show has been the three sisters getting together.

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My goodness isn't this a thought provoking show? You can tell by scanning the comments section that people are thinking about this show a lot.
Some details that stood out for me were, when they two men met, there was a lot of posturing. It reminded me of cats confronting each other. In fact, as Jiho was leaving Gi-seok was leaving behind him and you can see Jiho purposefully slow down as if to say, "I am not afraid of you walking behind me."

Gi-Seok literally does not hear anything he doesn't want to hear. People can call it cheating, but how can you break up with someone who doesn't hear anything you have to say? He literally told her to "sleep it off," holy cow! I have never cheated in my very long life, but I am on her side in this one.

The best moment is when he teared up and ran away. That is what makes this show gold.

Gi-Seok keeps saying that it isn't about winning, but clearly it is for him.

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I for one appreciate the posturing scene very much. I was waiting for Ji Ho to show his mettle, which he has buried for so long. I want him to be brave again and step out of his shell. While I dislike Gi-Seok’s pompous and sanctimonious attitude, I can understand his desperation, and sadly he has crossed that line. I hope he will wake up to his senses before he does even more horrendous harm. But it may also be the pivotal moment for Ji Ho to show how he fights for Jung In and their relationship. I also love this show for trying to show the local taboos on single-parents, the patriarchal attitudes, and as much as these negative aspects should be eschewed, it gives us the opportunity to observe the culture and the choices the characters make.

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It’s laughable to expect/demand consideration for Ki-Seok’s feelings when he clearly doesn’t consider anyone else’s feelings but his own—I mean, if he did, then maybe the breakup wouldn’t be this prolonged or painful. That said, I do believe Jung-in did (emotionally) cheat on him, if only because she never told him about Ji-Ho and their meeting or interactions, and while I’m against cheating, I agree that for her, it’s been over for a long time, and Ki-Seok never accepted it every time she told him she wanted to break up/that it was over, and based on her previous remarks that they’d been on and off for a bit, it’s fair to assume that she’s initiated the breakup multiple times offscreen and pre-Ji-Ho. I’m a bit iffy about their long-term prospects—the honeymoon/initial intense love phase doesn’t last forever, and it seems they dove too quickly headfirst into this. I also feel like Eun-Woo’s mom will resurface, and that’s bound to test them. I guess I just really want a happy, satisfying ending for them, an ending to a story arc that lets me believe that they can and will make it in the long run. I’m too invested and attached to them, and I can’t accept Ji-Ho not getting that “she’s the last woman in my life” and endgame happy ending for both of them.

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So alot of people I have read have an issue with how Ji-Ho and Jung-ins relationship started!
I agree she should have broken up first and given it time to settle. But I believe the whole reason of this drama is not just a relationship but showing you double standard of the society.

Geok-si (GS) confessed that he cannot believe she left her for Ji-Ho. His male ego is hurt. He cannot digest someone below him socially can take away his girl. And the fact his girl has the audacity to leave him for the guy who is a single parent.

It's perfect depiction of male centric society. I bet GS doesn't even believe he is such an ass, since he gives his girl so much freedom, doesn't do anything wrong by her. But that's the problem ...

So please people who don't like the show for the way couple started its romance ... Try to understand the undertone of the show

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I finally caught up on this show this week! So far I'm really enjoying it. I was vacillating between waiting until the end before deciding whether or not to watch or taking a chance and live-watching. I decided on live-watching, so I'm hoping that the impending parental angst doesn't get to be too much for me.

Ki-seok and Jeong-in's father both need to sit down. They are so inconsiderate and patronizing. Jeong-in has made her feelings and position abundantly clear, but they blatantly ignore her and decide what they think she should want. I really hate when people don't respect someone else's decisions and try to take away their agency. Thankfully she has her sisters and mother for support.

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I’m probably in the minority but I just wanted to say how much I loved JiHo and JungIn’s tender scenes. From JungIn’s first confession of her feelings and JiHo’s reaction to it to the way she just ran into him for a hug after each of their confrontation with their respective parents. And then later at the park bench when they had their first kiss. I thought it was tender and sweet, not a passionate one (yet) but an affirmation of their feelings. The way they held hands throughout that scene was heartfelt.

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I really like it too. I don't need big kiss scenes for this drama because all is in the emotions and the details.

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Me three, I loved the tender moments so much!

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I have a question: what did Ji Ho mean when he said Ki Seok looked down on him? Was it the scene with the money for his son? Because so far Ki Seok had talked about pitying Ji Ho but not directly to his face. I just get a little confused by this. Thanks!

That being said, i’m head over heels for this show. Glad i decided to watch it after just following recaps here.

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It was from the scene a few episodes earlier after GiSeok went to JungIn’s apartment while JiHo and YeongJae were there. GiSeok, JiHo and his banker friend were at a resto and GiSeok mentioned something about there was nothing to worry about because it was merely JiHo and YeongJae. He was implying that JiHo was not a threat to him because he knew of JiHo’s single parent status. He spoke as if that was something that put JiHo at a lower level than him. He was so sure JungIn would not fall for someone like him.

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Ah yes thanks for clearing that up. But what about the money scene? Was it considered as looking down on his single parent status too?

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I would say yes, it was. I would like to add that I think in most Asian culture, it is traditionally accepted for elders such as parents and older silblings to give money gifts to kids. But this is mostly done among family members. So I would say for GiSeok to do something like that is quite condescending, given JiHo’s circumstances and both of them aren’t particularly even close friends.

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My favorite part: when she said I love you and he ran out of the door and she caught him crying 😭😭😍😅. That was so cute and so well-done. I hope their love remains as pure as they are facing what's coming at them.

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Actually I noticed that ji ho always wear black cloths its like he is still suffering I am really waiting to see when he will really open up moreover i am so sad that eastern countries can't leave their old ideas about divorcees or having children no offense I am eastern too

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Coming from the director and writer of Something in the Rain, ONE SPRING NIGHT is a better written story and watching it, I feel like — as a beanie said — it is their way of making amends for how SITR started superbly and went on beautifully but “crash landed” after the 8th episode.
I just hope with OSN they will avoid the pitfalls of SITR.
Han Ji-min and Jung Hae-in are nailing it, they have great chemistry and make one hope that their slowly unfolding love will be able to withstand the pressure from all sides they will face soon.

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Jung Hae In/Yoo Ji does these sad crybaby roles so well. He doesn’t cry but us the viewers do. His face tell the whole despondent story. You just want to hug him and say keep going baby its going to be alright. He was like that in “Something in the rain”. I love his words ”If you come to me now they’ll be no turning back.” So exciting so final. So irresistible to me anyway. Wasn’t he having a secret love affair in “Something in the Rain?” Oh man he’s going to be typecast as the guy who has secret romances and breaks his own heart. Forbidden love is so exciting.

The Three Sisters are so good to each other supporting and watching each others back. But Korean parents just drive me crazy. Let your kids make their own decisions and who cares if your girls don’t ever get married. Why do they need to get married? If they have got a good job that is all they need. Don’t they have family support and old age pension in Korea. My sister’s and I are good to each other but my grand daughters are the best supporters of their nana.

That Kim Joon Han/ Kwon Ki Seok is so patronising. Acts like women don’t have a brain to think for themselves. It makes me annoyed when he says what did I do wrong. I did everything right by her. Yeah! Nah! Bro, you took her for granted. Went off with the bros every night. Forgot to get in touch when you were late. Your motto was bros before hoes. You only got in touch when you felt like sleeping with her. Not cool bro.

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I have to be honest, I dislike “Something in the Rain” a lot. I’m wishing so hard this drama doesn’t turn out in a similar fashion. I have high expectations for the leads, esp Jung In with her self-discovery. I’m very eager to see how the leads who are known to fight hard when they know what they want and won’t back down.

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"Something in the Rain" it the had that sexual harassment thread in it and it wasn't handled well. The main lead took off to the USA because he couldn't cope with it. He saw her being constantly hurt by it and he couldn't take it it any more. She stayed to fight it out, but wasn't being supported by her bosses. She lost the case in the end. That was the part I didn't like but their love story was wonderful.

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