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Itaewon Class: Episode 14

After a 4-year time skip, the Danbam team is flourishing but despite his failing health, President Jang continues to be a thorn in our hero’s side. As the old foes butt heads once more in an attempt to dethrone Jang, rivalry isn’t the only feeling that rises to the surface and our characters contemplate whether it’s possible to have a change of heart.

 
EPISODE 14 RECAP

Leaving the office late at night, Sae-ro-yi spots Yi-seo asleep at her desk. Ever the gentleman, Sae-ro-yi drapes his jacket over her shoulders only to try and take it back when Yi-seo smirks that she’s touched. He questions why she’s sleeping here and Yi-seo yawns that she has a lot to prepare for. Yi-seo senses something is bothering him and the next morning Sae-ro-yi holds a meeting with her, Min-jung, and Ho-jin to reveal President Jang’s critical condition.

They agree President Jang will attempt to appoint Geun-soo his successor before his health is leaked. In order to prevent Jang from stepping down quietly, Ho-jin suggests they weaken Jang’s power by ousting one of the board members he’s close to. Min-jung worries about Geun-soo but Sae-ro-yi points out Geun-soo won’t pull any punches either.

A new board member will need to be selected and Sae-ro-yi is ineligible (as CEO of his own company) so Yi-seo volunteers. Ho-jin is concerned by Yi-seo’s young age, but Sae-ro-yi is confident in Yi-seo’s capabilities. Afterwards, Sae-ro-yi worries whether Yi-seo can handle vying for the board member position on top of her current hefty workload. Yi-seo cheekily suggests he grant her wish for a date if he feels bad but Sae-ro-yi reminds her not to cross the line.

President Jang knows the article regarding corruption allegations about a Jang Ga board member is Sae-ro-yi’s doing. He resolves to dismiss the board member himself and Geun-soo offers to compile a list of replacement candidates. Jang waves him off, knowing Sae-ro-yi will already have a candidate in mind so they’ll have to fight fair. Geun-soo agrees that it’s more important to focus on Jang’s public image and comments that he’s looking better. Thinking of Sae-ro-yi’s order for him not to die yet, President Jang chuckles that he feels relieved.

While looking over voters they’ll need to meet with and convince, Yi-seo suggests Sae-ro-yi get some rest. His phone rings and Sae-ro-yi hesitates when Soo-ah’s name flashes on the screen. He answers and glancing at Yi-seo, declines Soo-ah’s invitation for drinks. Yi-seo correctly guesses Soo-ah as the caller, and pouts that Sae-ro-yi is flirting while she’s working.

Sae-ro-yi tells her to stop vocalizing her feelings when he’s firmly rejected her. Yi-seo’s playful demeanor drops and she warbles that he can meet Soo-ah – she’d planned to do the work by herself anyway. He angrily accuses her of making him feel uneasy and Yi-seo sobers, asking if he knows why he feels that way. He denies having feelings for her, but Yi-seo is confident she knows him best and smiles that he finally sees her as a woman.

At Jang Ga HQ, Soo-ah tells President Jang they’ve handled the dismissal of tarnished board member. Geun-soo asks how they should retrieve the stocks Jang had gathered under that board member’s name, but Jang decides to leave them. Over at IC HQ, Ho-jin wonders how Jang easily dismissed the board member and asks about Yi-seo. Sae-ro-yi says Min-jung is introducing her to influential voters.

Ho-jin still worries Yi-seo’s age will work against her but Sae-ro-yi remains confident, “Because it’s Yi-seo.” Meanwhile, Yi-seo gives her all at both work and schmoozing the shareholders for the upcoming board meeting. When she checks on Tony at a store location, her nose starts bleeding and Tony urges her to rest. Yi-seo waves him off, saying she has to meet more stockholders.

Hyun-yi pops into Sae-ro-yi’s office to tell him today’s meeting is cancelled due to someone’s wife going into labor and suggests Sae-ro-yi take the opportunity to rest. Yi-seo gets out of a cab and runs into Geun-soo for the first time in 4 years. He guesses she’s meeting stockholders and cheekily says he just left them. Geun-soo tries to make small talk and Yi-seo blurts that she heard President Jang was dying.

At Geun-soo’s expression, she wonders if she was too direct but Geun-soo’s merely surprised she already knows. He asks why she hasn’t used that against them yet, and Yi-seo says she prefers to collect many cards before playing her hand. Geun-soo suggests they get a drink and when Yi-seo starts to refuse, Geun-soo says he might divulge more cards when drunk. Meanwhile, Sae-ro-yi drinks with Soo-ah and she comments that he’s a hard man to get ahold of.

Soo-ah proudly announces that she bought a house and Sae-ro-yi congratulates her, admitting he hasn’t bought one himself. Soo-ah tsks that he spends all his money on stock and sighs that she’d dreamed of owning a car and house and leading an independent life when she was young. Sae-ro-yi praises her for achieving her dreams and Soo-ah agrees she’s lived diligently, but admits it feels empty.

Turning the conversation to Sae-ro-yi, Soo-ah wonders if she’ll be quitting her job after the stockholder’s meeting (as Sae-ro-yi always promised to make her do). Soo-ah’s face falls when Sae-ro-yi pauses and responds vaguely. She points out that he’s rich and close to achieving his goal and asks if he still likes her. Sae-ro-yi says he’s told her many times and Soo-ah orders him to say he likes her.

The silence stretches and then Sae-ro-yi looks up to see Yi-seo enter the bar with Geun-soo. They stare at each other for a long moment and then Yi-seo runs out, Geun-soo close behind her. Sae-ro-yi looks down and tears prick Soo-ah’s eyes as he rubs his head. He stands without a word and Soo-ah grabs his arm, telling him not to go. She asks if he likes Yi-seo and then cuts off his answer to say it’s been 15 years.

Soo-ah reminds him he’d promised to make her quit her job, her voice cracking as she says, “You of all people should still like me.” Sae-ro-yi acknowledges his words and starts to say something else, but Soo-ah drops her hand. Without meeting his eyes, Soo-ah lies that she was just kidding and urges him to find Yi-seo. She tells him she’ll call and after an awkward moment, Sae-ro-yi runs out, while she cries alone.

Outside, Yi-seo is already gone. Instead, he finds Geun-soo, who angrily accuses Sae-ro-yi for using Yi-seo’s feelings. He says he understands Sae-ro-yi can’t accept her feelings, but also can’t push away such an important asset of IC. “If IC disappears,” Geun-soo wonders, “will you let go of Yi-seo?” Sae-ro-yi doesn’t answer and Geun-soo says he’ll see him at the shareholder’s meeting.

Soo-ah steps out shakily and runs into Geun-won. They go for drinks and Soo-ah admits she hadn’t realized he was out of prison. Geun-won jokes that he broke out because he missed her, but upon seeing Soo-ah’s alarmed expression, explains that he was released early for good behavior. She asks if he plans to return to Jang Ga, but Geun-won vaguely replies he’ll do “something else.” Changing the subject, Geun-won happily notes this is their first time drinking together and thanks her for granting his wish.

Soo-ah grimaces and Geun-won clarifies that he’s not hitting her. “I know I’m a jerk,” he says, “But I don’t want to ruin the life of the woman I like.” His words are unnerving but instead of elaborating, Geun-won asks if she still likes Sae-ro-yi. Soo-ah says Geun-soo hasn’t changed and he accepts that she’ll always think he’s a jerk.

Yi-seo returns home to find Mom waiting for her. Mom says she’s been there 5 days and Yi-seo sighs that she’s been busy on business trips and sleeping at the office. Mom tsks that she’d thought things might’ve been going well with Sae-ro-yi and wonders if after all this time, something will ever happen between them. Mom assumes Yi-seo’s fallen asleep and leaves, while Yi-seo cries quietly to herself.

The next day, Sae-ro-yi finds Hyun-yi and Seung-kwon hovering over Yi-seo. Hyun-yi says Yi-seo has a cold but Yi-seo assures Sae-ro-yi she’s good for the meeting and pops up. They head out, but Yi-seo grows dizzy and Sae-ro-yi barely manages to catch her when she faints. Sae-ro-yi texts Ho-jin that they’re taking Yi-seo to the hospital and he reports it to Min-jung. Thankfully Yi-seo’s presence isn’t mandatory, but Sae-ro-yi’s is as a major shareholder.

President Jang heads down to the meeting and Min-jung greets him. Realizing she’s still aligned with Sae-ro-yi, President Jang admits she never was the obedient type. She says she heard about his condition and President Jang tuts that she should’ve used that information against him. Min-jung says she’s doing it for Jang Ga but President Jang tsks that she always makes the wrong choice.

Geun-soo asks where Sae-ro-yi is and neither Min-jung nor Ho-jin seem inclined to answer until Sae-ro-yi runs in. Geun-soo looks for Yi-seo but Sae-ro-yi says she won’t be here today. With a parting snide remark that Min-jung does always make the wrong choice, Geun-soo saunters off. During the meeting, Sae-ro-yi can’t stop worrying about Yi-seo, while at the hospital Seung-kwon tells Hyun-yi he wishes Yi-seo would take a break.

Yi-seo wakes up and immediately asks about the meeting… where it’s announced that her appointment has been rejected. Turns out Geun-soo had approached the US investors that had previously held no allegiance. On his way out, Jang pauses to gloat at Sae-ro-yi and say that he can’t wait much longer. Min-jung wants to calm the investors on their side but allows Sae-ro-yi to run out to see Yi-seo.

As soon as he enters her room, Yi-seo asks how the meeting went, ignoring Sae-ro-yi’s inquiries to her health. Seung-kwon and Hyun-yi assure him Yi-seo just overworked herself and will be fine after some rest. Sae-ro-yi tells Yi-seo she was rejected and Yi-seo grumbles that Geun-soo must’ve convinced the US stockholders. She assures Sae-ro-yi she has a Plan B and pops up to meet with stockholders.

Sae-ro-yi orders her to stop, warning that he’ll fire her if she moves. He tells Hyun-yi and Seung-kwon to let him know if she moves and begs Yi-seo to rest before leaving. Seung-kwon follows him out and guesses Sae-ro-yi’s sullen expression is over Yi-seo. Sae-ro-yi doesn’t know what he means when Seung-kwon says to follow his heart. “Yi-seo has feelings for you. And you like Soo-ah,” Seung-kwon explains. When Sae-ro-yi doesn’t respond, Seung-kwon wonders if he’s confused. Sae-ro-yi starts to argue about the age gap, but Yi-seo had told him not to make excuses.

Seung-kwon sees no issue with the age gap or even about hurting Soo-ah’s feelings. Sae-ro-yi says he’s being talkative, but Seung-kwon points out this isn’t like him and leaves. Seung-kwon passes a van of masked men on his way to his car. Hmm. Sae-ro-yi walks by an advertisement for the necklace Yi-seo had liked and heads back to the hospital. He stops when he overhears Yi-seo and Hyun-yi chatting and ducks around a corner.

Hyun-yi assures Yi-seo that Sae-ro-yi was just concerned, but Yi-seo is adamant that had she moved, she would’ve been fired. She whines that timing is important and she can’t waste it in bed, begging Hyun-yi to cover for her (so she can work). Hyun-yi refuses and Yi-seo pouts, questioning her loyalties. Hyun-yi says she’s on Yi-seo’s side, pointing out that she should trust Sae-ro-yi will handle the China deal while Seung-kwon manages the stores.

Yi-seo explains she’s been running around confessing to Sae-ro-yi and told him he could fire her over her feelings. Hyun-yi balks that the company can’t run without her. Yi-seo agrees that she can show her affection because she’s someone Sae-ro-yi needs. “I just need to justify my actions,” Yi-seo concludes, “I need the right to say that I love him.” Sae-ro-yi pulls out a small Tiffany’s bag and sighs, unable to approach the women after what he’s heard.

In his office, Geun-soo passes management of Jangmun Market Street to Soo-ah. She notes things are uneasy at the company and Geun-soo informs her President Jang is dying. Soo-ah goes straight to visit him and Jang grumbles at Geun-soo for telling her. He says next to his assistant, Mr. Kim, Soo-ah has been with him the longest… but for a different motive. Jang admits he’s always been aware of Soo-ah’s feelings towards him: her resentment over Dad’s death and yet she feared Jang.

He nods that it should be a good thing someone she hates is dying… and asks why she’s crying. Soo-ah sobs that she doesn’t know, and Jang admits he’s been hard on her. “You’re a competent woman, but you didn’t leave your boss whom you hate,” Jang says, “Do you know why.” Soo-ah repeats that she doesn’t know, and Jang explains that she’s been tamed to his preferences.

Jang tells her he’s pressured everyone around him to tame them like that, saying it’s easy to control them and he despises them. He questions whether that’s the impression Soo-ah wants to leave at the end of his life. She asks why he’s telling her this and Jang admits he’s becoming strange at death’s door. Meanwhile, Geun-won stalks through a dark building where Mob Boss Hee-hoon (Sae-ro-yi and Geun-won’s cellmate as well as Seung-kwon’s former boss) and his men operate. “What we talked about before,” Geun-won says dropping a duffel onto the table, “I’d like to start.” Hee-hoon simply asks when.

Tony delivers a stack of files to Sae-ro-yi from Yi-seo’s office. Sae-ro-yi awes at the amount, but Tony says the other half are locked in Yi-seo’s safe and no one knows her passcode. Sae-ro-yi heads to Yi-seo’s office and finds Seung-kwon signing paperwork for her. Seung-kwon warns him Yi-seo’s safe is locked but Sae-ro-yi knows the password: his birthday. Seung-kwon grins that Yi-seo is devoted and Sae-ro-yi awkwardly asks what proposal Seung-kwon is looking over.

He explains it’s an event and reads the through the promo which calls for customers to bring a person that they hate, the first person they want to thank, the first person they want to apologize to, the scariest moment that comes to mind, the best luck in their life. In response to each prompt, Sae-ro-y flashes through the night Yi-seo got Geun-won’s confession, the night he rejected her confession, Yi-seo fainting into his arms, and finally her promising to help him achieve his dreams. “Are you in love with someone?” Seung-kwon finishes the promo and Sae-ro-yi finds the laminated sketch Yi-seo had done of him after they first met.

“It’s all you,” Sae-ro-yi realizes. He races out and thinks of Yi-seo’s confession to Hyun-yi as he speeds to the hospital. Geun-soo arrives first, but the receptionist informs him she’s refused anyone but relatives and authorized visitors. Sae-ro-yi calls out to him, while in her room Yi-seo finds the necklace Sae-ro-yi had bought her in her drawer with a note: “Get better.” She gleefully puts it on before a nurse says he’s here for an IV injection. And I get the sinking feeling he’s not a medical professional.

Geun-soo and Sae-ro-yi talk outside and Sae-ro-yi confirms Geun-soo needn’t feel bad over the shareholder’s meeting, as he was just doing his job. Geun-soo confirms he’d read the articles of Yi-seo’s collapse and came running. Sae-ro-yi asks if he’s still in love with Yi-seo and Geun-soo says he’s thought of her every day for the last 4 years, adding she was the reason he left Danbam to take over Jang Ga and destroy IC.

Sae-ro-yi agrees Yi-seo is someone you can bet your life one. Geun-soo senses a shift and snaps to look at Sae-ro-yi as he continues that even if he has feelings for her, she’s a woman his friend loves so he should give up. He calls it a betrayal and an awful thing to do as realization dawns on Geun-soo. “I’m doing it now,” Sae-ro-yi declares, “The betrayal. The awful thing.”

Geun-soo jumps to his feet, but Sae-ro-yi remains firm. He says Geun-soo can curse or even hit him. “I like Yi-seo,” Sae-ro-yi says meeting Geun-soo’s eyes, “I won’t apologize though.” He walks away and freezes when he finds Yi-seo’s room in disarray. A text comes through with an address and an order not to call the police or bring backup just as Geun-soo catches up, railing on Sae-ro-yi for always denying feelings for Yi-seo in the past.

Sae-ro-yi doesn’t even hear him and runs off as Geun-soo checks Yi-seo’s room. Sae-ro-yi drives erratically, unaware Geun-soo is in hot pursuit. They wind down a road and pull up to where a crowd of gangsters have blocked the way. Hee-hoon watches from one vehicle and Geun-won from another as Sae-ro-yi approaches the blockade. To Sae-ro-yi’s horror, Geun-soo runs after him.

Stepping out of his car, Geun-won smirks that the two people he hates most are here. He ignores Sae-ro-yi’s demand to know where Yi-seo is, wondering why he cares when he’s about to die. Geun-soo rushes forward but freezes when a car careens towards him. Sae-ro-yi shoves him out of the way just in time, but takes the full brunt of the car, rolling down the hill. Geun-won looks shocked as Geun-soo screams Sae-ro-yi’s name. Sae-ro-yi’s voiceover: “Follow my heart and be myself. A life without regrets regardless of consequences. That’s how I wanted to live.”

He flashes back to when he first rejected Yi-seo and admits he regrets that day. “I miss you like crazy,” Sae-ro-yi thinks as his eyes close.

 
COMMENTS

Throughout its run, there’s been a certain level of suspension of disbelief needed when watching Itaewon Class. It has very strong comic overtones – which is to be expected since the source material is a webtoon – but realism has never been much of a factor. This episode, however, takes the cake! How did we get from revenge story of underdog Sae-ro-yi vs Big Bad Jang Ga (with a sprinkling of romance) to kidnapping and attempted murder?! I had thought we were pretty much done with Geun-won once he was abandoned by President Jang to rot in jail… only for him to come back and decide that if he can’t have daddy’s love, at least he can eliminate the boy whose father he killed 15 years ago. Because that makes sense?

It’s all a bit convoluted at this point and I find my investment has waned in the past week or so as the focus has shifted from the ensemble to just the main leads. I was expecting more of an emotional impact with Sae-ro-yi finally realizing his feelings. Turning down Soo-ah – his first love that he’s held onto for 15 years – and coming to terms with the fact that he’s in love with Yi-seo should’ve been this grand moment and while I can see how logistically it made sense, perhaps I am just so fed up with the lackluster romance arc, because I didn’t care. I can understand how Sae-ro-yi has come to value the woman that has stood by him and supported him over the one who never even admitted she liked him back… but I didn’t feel that elation from a good OTP climactic moment.

For as much as I’ve voiced my frustration with Soo-ah, I feel her character was done a disservice. She showed glimmers now and then of being more than a pawn for Jang to taunt Sae-ro-yi with or act as romantic rival to Yi-seo… only for her to do something that seemed to remove all her agency or was selfish to the point I couldn’t excuse it as self-preservation. I think Yi-seo summed it up perfectly in their last encounter. Soo-ah has been coasting on what Sae-ro-yi can do for her and never thought of what she could do in return. That’s not how love works, and it was clearly jarring for her to realize she’d lost the one person she’d been confident would always be by her side. Ironically, the person she’s built the closest relationship with has been President Jang. In his own twisted way, Jang had a deep affection for Soo-ah that he never possessed for his own children and for as much as she resented and feared him, he’s been the true constant in her life and a warped father-figure in place of Dad.

I’m glad to see Yi-seo has experienced growth, but I feel that all her crazy charm has dissipated leaving only her unwavering affection for Sae-ro-yi in its wake. Most of the characters feel really watered down after the 4 year skip and it’s a real shame because it would seem that as the show loses the emotional thread, it’s just amped up the crazy in an attempt to keep the momentum going. Jang is dying and while I can see how Sae-ro-yi would feel poetic justice isn’t enough for everything he’s gone through… I harken back to Ho-jin’s comment last episode after his encounter with Geun-won. Ho-jin had said that despite becoming successful and Geun-won losing everything, he’s still afraid. And to drive the stake in deeper, Geun-won didn’t even recognize him. I wish Sae-ro-yi had listened more closely, because whether he realized it or not Ho-jin was telling him that revenge doesn’t matter. The people that hurt them will never atone for their sins because they don’t care while Ho-jin and Sae-ro-yi are the ones that have to bear the scars. Revenge was a good fuel to get them where they are, but now that they’re out of those dark days, it’s time to let it go because revenge only makes those wounds fester.

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Great review about the "water down" characters, I feel the same except for Geun Woon. That guy never changes except for his hair color. Another hit by the car down the slope. What the.... (even though I can see he is not the driver this time). Geun Soo has redeemed himself a little bit, let's see if he will save SRY in next episode.

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It's almost like a different story with the mentioned watering down. Most of the characters seem to have moved into cliche territory, like they all lost their basic personalities in that 4 year jump.

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Yi-seo's nosebleed screams "Candy."

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Even if i kinda wanted for Geun Won to have learned something and truly repent of his actions and start fresh i must say it's also realistic that he didn't change and even more found the fault in others rather than himself for what happened,not everyone changes for the good and he is a foolish pathetic guy who tossed his chance out the door a long time ago...Sad as he could have been happy...

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I don't buy the romance. I don't know if I should blame the writing or Park Seo-joon's acting (blasphemy).

I'm not worried because obviously Sae-ro-yi and Yi-seo are not going to die. Chairman Jang, on the other hand, can go croak. I don't care about him staying alive longer just to be punished by Sae-ro-yi. How realistic is it IC can overtake Jang Ga as the #1 food company in six months anyway?

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Not very realistic that they could get to #1, but might be some way they and their allies could get control of the company and get rid of all the Jangs, then maybe a merger??. The romance could have worked if it was brought into the story sooner, but this sudden 180 simply does not fit. It's almost like they got to episode 13 and then decided they had to hurry up and finish off what should have been done 4 episodes sooner.

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Merging is a good idea because SRY saved GS life by pushing him aside. Hopefully GS comes to his sense and values this Hyung. GW should be put in jail again and President Jang will die.

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I think you just spilled the finale.

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hahaha, then should I watch it anymore?

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AGree about Park Seo-jun's acting... He should have been showing a bit more affection for Yiseo all along. His facial expressions in their interactions are too bland. Kim Dami, on the other hand, is amazing in her facial expressions.

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On the other hand, I totally believe Sae-ro-yi likes Soo-ah as it is written all over Park Seo-joon's face. While Park Seo-joon looks at Kim Da-mi like a little sister. As Soo-ah tells Yi-seo, "Cutie."

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See their strong chemistry again in the cell scene. I notice the gaze PSR gives to SA when they have to break their conversation. We can clearly see his yearning eyes.

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I'd like to think that even PSJ realizes this love-line is shoe-horned in and is phoning it in out of protest.

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*snorts again*

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I'm not watching and I like PSJ on a good day but I snorted so hard at your first statement lol

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I don't think anybody buys the romance and I definitely blame the writing. If there was any need for romance at all, it should've been btw Min Jung and the ex-cop - there was a little spark there at least.

At this point, i think the best part of IC was the shortlived scenes btw SRY and his dad.

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The show really jumped the shark with the four-year time jump.

And I don't buy SRY finally developing feelings for YS. If a male lead spent all this time pursuing a woman who has turned him down repeatedly, we would all be rightfully disgusted. But since the genders are reversed, we're supposed to root for SRY and YS to be together? I just felt like YS was sexually harassing SRY by hitting on him repeatedly.

And Geun Won deciding to hit his half-brother and SRY with a car now seems to be such a stupid decision. Would his father really believe that GW's two main rivals just happen to conveniently die now?

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The show jumped the shark back in Episode 11 with Loan Shark Halmeoni (twice) and The Best Pub (three times).

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Ep 11, where it all start to went downhill in full speed story wise :)

I never expected the show to have a plain sailing in maintaining the high standard of its great start, but still I didn’t predict the decline to be this big. 😂

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I doubt GW cares for his father opinion now as he got out with a clear idea,to get rid of the ones who put him behind bars and maybe GS...He knows that after it he goes back in...

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Was killing saeroyi geunwons way of “protecting the company”? That makes no sense in anyway because it would ruin the company image. Unless the police can’t figure out who did it. 😑 back to square one.

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In Geun-won's simple mind, it is protecting the company by getting rid of Jang Ga's biggest rival. And since Jang Ga's stock price recovered once when he was convicted of killing Dad, it will recover again if he is caught killing Dad's son. Like double jeopardy. 🙃

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"sexually harrassing"? YS to SRY or SRY to SA? Telling someone who you like should not be termed as "sexual harrassment", should it?

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YS to SRY. Making sexual advances on someone at work, after they've rejected you, is sexual harassment. If it makes the other person uncomfortable, it creates a hostile work environment. Not to mention that YS kissed SRY when he was unconscious--that is sexual assault.

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Agree on the sexual assault part while SRY was drunk. But now SRY says he likes YS, so making advances at work as a socialpath does earn her a boyfriend/husband. This drama is breaking all the rules and this is one more added to the list. I won't mind getting a Tiffany necklace from my boss (just kidding).

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In a drama, sure. But if someone in real life did what YS did, she would be reported to HR or fired.

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Don’t worry. IC storyline will never happen in real life. Chill.

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@candycane uhhh, maybe the overall story of IC will not happen in real life. But the sexual harassment that YS has been doing to PSRY by repeatedly telling him she likes him even tho he has asked her multiple times to stop DEFINITELY happen many times in real life, esp the reverse type (men doing it to women). By saying that it does not happen in real life to try to downplay it is to ignore all the sexual harassment that goes on every day in workplaces everywhere.

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I think you all missed that after getting the investment from that old Hymoni; when YS says ILU to YSR, YSR actually feels happy and just acknowledges her, so your judgement that her saying ILU to YSR is sexual harassment is wrong, he acknowledged her love, 2 episodes back !!!!

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I think you are going way overboard on this whole harassment thing.

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Seriously!

People are free to bitch about it if it personally offends them - kind of like people bitched about Kim Shin being "too old" for Ji Eun-Tak in Goblin. (Duh, he's, like, 936 years old! If we're taking things literally in that fantasy drama, he's too old for every human on the entire earth! Not to mention being a god and all). It's simply ridiculous from a legal POV, as Sae Ro Yi has complete power over Yi Seo, and Yi Seo has absolutely none over him.

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I think you all missed that after getting the investment from that old Hymoni; when YS says ILU to YSR, YSR actually feels happy and just acknowledges her, so your judgement that her saying ILU to YSR is sexual harassment is wrong, he acknowledged her love, 2 episodes back !!!!

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Before you claim that everyone missed something that apparently only you caught, you should probably examine whether what you caught actually is real. I would post a screenshot here if I could, but in that scene that you mentioned, he clearly was more like "wtf, what should my response be" and there was literally no hint of happiness????? Not to mention, he EXPLICITLY ASKED HER TO STOP in the last episode, and not only did she not, she basically said haha nope, I won't and you can't fire me because you need me! (manipulative af). Please don't let your Yi-Seo tinted glass affects you so much that you're out here making excuses for sexual harassment, because that's disgusting.

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overreaction. as I said earlier, I guess all office romances will seem sexual harassment to you !! :) :D

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Clearly you are getting absolutely confused. She NEVER says this " I won't and you can't fire me because you need me! " to YSR. She shares her thought with Ma Hyeon-yi.

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I agree with you Wisely. He was taken aback. Felt awkward - yes. Felt flustered - yes. Felt happy - huh??

If that was supposed to be a moment of “happiness”, then Park Seo Joon has really become a terrible actor.

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I don't recall off the top of my head whether Yi Seo ever says anything like that to Sae Ro Yi, but she does bare her soul, including her guilty feelings, to Hyun Yi at the hospital about this (and their conversation is overheard by Sae Ro Yi), which I thought was quite perceptive of her.

Also, while she may have a very mind form of something along the lines of antisocial personality disorder (which, based on my reading of many, many mental health and competency evaluations over the years, pretty much means that the person is born an asshole!), but she's far from being a sociopath or psychopath.

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I really think some of you are too overly sensitive on what's termed sexual harrassment. I don't agree with kissing while he was drunk. But simply telling him she likes him is nothing wrong. She does not touch his chest or his butt. Throughout history that's how people are courting. My Obasan said that's why she agreed to marry. Back then it was termed romantic (by expressing love many different ways), now you call it sexual harrassment.

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These days calling a woman honey or sweetheart is considered offensive so now that the roles are reversed its okay such hipocrisy!! Its outstanding

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If you look up sexual harassment, there's basically two kinds. One is quid pro quo which means demanding sexual favors in exchange for promotions, etc. The other is creating a hostile work environment. This includes making sexual comments of any nature, unwanted advances. It doesn't need to include physical touch. Imagine if you had a coworker who was always telling you they liked you despite your repeated rejections. That's sexual harassment. They don't need to touch your butt (which would be sexual assault by the way).

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I don't think anyone should watch any K-dramas if this is your definition of sexual harassment.

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Sure.. sure.. you have a decent argument there.

“...Telling someone you like him/her is not wrong... that’s how people are courting... it is romantic to express your love in many different ways...“

No problem there, you could be right.

But the problem here was the context.

When people are courting, every decent adult or young-adult or even teen with decent EQ should be able to differentiate if the person they like was being serious or not when he/she was addressing a confession.

When the person was being serious and said that he/she reciprocated the feeling, then congrats for both of them.

When the person was being totally serious and didn’t reciprocate, you just need to stop.. or bid for your chances in the future if possible.. but should never do chase the person immediately after the rejection.

When the person didn’t reciprocate but you sensed some playfulness or coyness behind it, you might try to chase him/her, try to change his/her stance.

When the person said that he/she reciprocated the feeling but was only being playful and never serious, then the person was a f*ckin’ je*k.

Now back to the topic..
How was SRY when he was addressing YS’s confession?

He was serious, he didn’t reciprocate and he asked YS to stop liking him. I don’t care if you say you picked some hints that SRY was starting to fall for her, that’s not the point. SRY still was still being DEAD SERIOUS when he said he was uncomfortable with YS’s constant confessing and asked her to stop. Every decent person should STOP at that moment. Continue doing that and that is CROSSING THE LINE, a harassment.

Your argument, that expressing feelings in many different ways is romantic, is only valid for the first and third possible outcome above, and clearly the situation of SRY and YS was not one of them.

Ironically if you’re looking for an example of a situation where your argument is valid, you just need to rewatch Ep 1 in where SA said to SRY to never fall for her. There, you should just be able to sense some playfulness on her part, some invitation for SRY to be creative, to try to change her stance. Kudos for the actress to be able to portray that subtle details really well.

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I love yisoo but yeah, her repeated declarations of love were becoming borderline icky/harassment to me.

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"But since the genders are reversed, we're supposed to root for SRY and YS to be together? I just felt like YS was sexually harassing SRY by hitting on him repeatedly."

THIS. I had to log in and comment on this because this is exactly how I felt about YS. If it was a MALE character doing this, ie repeatedly confessing love to a colleague at workplace AFTER rejection, netizens will be lambasting the character for sexual harrassment.

Yet we have a group of people who firmly root for her and admires her courage for confessing her love (repeatedly).

This is not the girl power (or whatever it is) that I want to see in unique and independent female characters.

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I think you all missed that after getting the investment from that old Hymoni; when YS says ILU to YSR, YSR actually feels happy and just acknowledges her, so your judgement that her saying ILU to YSR is sexual harassment is wrong, he acknowledged her love, 2 episodes back !!!!

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I think SRY has had feeling for YS all along, but didn't face it because he didn't want to betray his friend Geun Soo. At the end he basically told Geun Soo that he wasn't going to take Geun Soo's feelings into account any more, and would accept YS's feelings.

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I agree with @okiejune. There were moments in the last few eps that hinted SRY might have changed in his feelings for YS. And him asking her to stop in this ep felt like he was trying to fight that feeling. Maybe out of guilt for SA and GS.

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Telling somebody "i like you" is not sexual harassing, people are using this term so easily, the kiss was wrong but outside of it she didn't do anything bad enough to call it sexual harassing, is not like she touched him while saying "i like you".

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It actually is. There are two kinds of sexual harassment: quid pro quo and creating a hostile work environment. The first one is demanding sexual favors in exchange for promotions. The second is making your coworkers or subordinates uncomfortable through comments/actions of a sexual nature. For instance, if you had a coworker who hit on you constantly despite you rejecting them, it would make it uncomfortable for you to work and would warrant a complaint to human resources. You don't need to touch anyone for it to be sexual harassment. The touch would move it into the sexual assault category.

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Park Sae-Ro-Yi’s revenge is totally about his ego at this point. The irony wasn’t lost on me last episode when CEO Jang-Dae-Hee said that Sae-Ro-Yi is the only person that wanted him alive

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Finally! I thought we would get another fawning comment. I was sort of missing the days when the recapper would critique (at least under comments section) irrespective of the drama’s popularity. Glad there’s still Sunny to tell it as it is:
- My investment has waned at this point
- I didn’t feel elation at the OTP moment (me - I felt downright annoyed)
- the suspension of disbelief is a bit too much and the weakness of webtoon writing is undeniable
- the characters felt watered down (absolutely)

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What really annoyed me about the OTP thing is how it was so abrupt. It made no sense - humans just don't work like that. Sadly, another one of my favorite dramas seems to fall apart at the end.

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But it wasn't abrupt. It's been four whole years. /s

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With Sae-ro-Yi saying “No” multiple times, very firmly, with no hint of anything other than plain “No”, except the abrupt turnaround on episode 14.

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I think he did that because he knew Geun Soo liked her, and couldn't interfere with that.

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EP14 was rather disappointing in some ways. I think the "car smooshes hero" thing was totally out of character for the show as a whole, and really messed up the overall ambiance of the show. They could have found a far less fake-dramatic way for said hero to realize that Yi Seo was the one he really loved. Overall, the whole last 5 minutes was just jarring to those of us in love with this show.

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I liked the car smooshing part because it is just like what happened to Saeroyi's father. I'm imagining the (further) trauma it is causing to Geun Won, to see the same thing happening again as the event that basically has ruined his life. (of course this is because I'm sure Saeroyi will be ok)

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Geun-won caused this trauma, if any, to himself. He lured Sae-ro-yi to his location with the intention to hit him with his car, so it must not bother him to see the same thing happening again. When Geun-soo tagged along, it was two for the price of one.

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He realized he loved Yi-seo when he was in her office, listening to Seung-kwon while pondering her drawing of him. He regretted not telling her his feelings after being hit by the car.

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Let's quickly go over the walking mountain of red flags that Yi-Seo is:

1. Sexual harassment: Kiss a drunken person without their consent.

2. Verbal harassment: Constantly tell PSRY she loves him even though he asked her many times to stop and is clearly uncomfortable with it.

3. Manipulative as f***: "You can't fire me because you need me!" or "If you want me, then go take over Jangga".

4. Extremely prone to violent: I still can't get over that scene where she slaps her bully over and over and over (like 10 times or something) for calling the police on HER drinking underage. Like I could maybe get once or twice, but that many times vindictively and savagely? Never. That's why I could never find it cute when she says "I will kill everyone for this man", because that's extreme obsession.

Lastly, in the end, Yi-Seo will still has not lost in anything. Sure, she got some setbacks, but she still will win the guy in the end. What kind of message does that send, dearest writer? That to win, it's fine if you do whatever you need, and will suffer no consequences? Lack of chemistry aside (greatly surprising because in all other romcoms of his, PSJ has always had great chemistry with his co-stars, even here he has pretty good romantic chemistry with Nara), I just can't care about the romance because honestly, in real life, that romance will go down in flames.

And to all the beanies who trash SA for asking PSRY to stop his revenge, what tf do you have to say now? PSRY is so obsessed with his revenge to the point that he refuses to let president Jang die, just so he can get his twisted satisfaction of revenge. Yeah, no; that is just a perverse desire, and is in no way what his dad would have wanted.

I have already commented on the terrible writing, so I'll be quick. The writer destroys/refuses to give SA any character/development (I don't even blame Nara for being the weakest of the cast anymore because she got so little to work with and the crappiest script in this drama), twisted the revenge plot, drags out the romance plot and does not bother to even show how romantic feelings even developed (and instead just copped out of that with a time skip LMAO), changes the drama genre from revenge to romcom to some sort of making/crime drama (seriously, kidnap + car crash like that lol???), and took what was a good drama to whatever this is now.

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I actually think the writing was pretty good up until around EP12, after that it started veering off into some really strange directions.

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YES!! The writer has not done S*** for sooah’s character. I agree with sunny’s statement that they did her character a disservice. Making her character a punching for yiseo when she could do so much better individually. I will never understand the hate her character gets cause it’s not like the writer gives her anything to work with. For her being one of the main characters on the poster, her character is more of a side character at most. They did Nara DIRTY in this drama. I hope she gets a good character in her next show, cause this ain’t it.

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I think you are obsessed with this whole Yi Seo hate thing.

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The romance is literally the thing this drama has been shoving down the viewer's throats for the past 5? 6? episodes? Literally nothing has happened on the revenge front since Gun-Won went to jail. So I'm only commenting on Yi-Seo because the writer has had all these episodes to develop that romance, and literally has stalled and stalled (probably to try to draw viewers with a prolonged triangle).

And is anything I stated false lmao? Did Yi-Seo not do anything that I stated or is your only retort that I am "hating" because all of what I said is true lol? Reverse the gender on all of the things she did and you'd probably be here spitting against the guy.

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My comment was mainly about the fact that with all the fails in this show since EP12 that you focused only on Yi Seo.

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Prob because her romance is arguably the biggest failure of this show (along with the atrocious writing for SA). And maybe you haven't read my previous comments, but I have definitely mentioned A LOT of the fails of this drama other than Yi-Seo in those previous comments, even in my OP comment above, after Yi-Seo I quickly summarized other things that I have commented on before that the drama has failed at.

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So according to you,whatever YS does is wrong irrespective of her mental illness but Whatever SA does , she is right because she is a realistic character and we shouldn't blame her because the writer didn't give scope for her development..right?

I feel like you are pissed off with PSR-SA not being an endgame..lol
Let me tell you chemistry is subjective, you may not see chemistry in them but many others love them...
And If you are comparing characters you should blame both for their mistakes not like blame one for their actions and other on the wrier.

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??? nice strawman there because nowhere that I comment that SA is blameless LOL but I'm going to entertain you. First, mental illness IS NOT an excuse to hurt others. You can't sexually assault others (kiss without consent) or violently assault others (slapping the bully over and over), etc., and then get out of the consequences by simply saying oh she has a mental illness. Not to mention, does she ever, in the entire drama, try to get therapy or help for it? Nope, we saw her in one therapy session at the beginning of this drama, and she was treating it as a joke.

Second, please tell me exactly where in this drama has SA physically or emotionally abuse or hurt or harass others like Yi-Seo has throughout this drama, because you won't be able to. We can blame her for being selfish, we can blame her for being scared, but at the end of the day, the only person she's hurting is herself? Not to mention, the writer has CLEARLY spent much more time on Yi-Seo's development (that's a fact) than hers, who is just basically a plot device at this point and not really a character. And these are the main differences between the two that makes them not really comparable that you're not getting: Yi-Seo is the one that the writer has clearly spent much more time on and push down our throat, while SA has been neglected since episode two. It is only natural then that you can't really use "not enough characterization" as an excuse for Yi-Seo, but you CAN for SA. Not to mention, Yi-Seo's actions clearly hurt/are harassment towards others, but SA's actions hurt none but HERSELF.

Ironically enough, you're probably the one that's pissed that not everyone likes your Yi-Seo ship and not everyone worship the ground she walks on. Chemistry certainly is subjective to a certain degree, but when almost everyone agrees that there's no spark (just read the comments), then there is clearly something lacking between PSJ and KDM.

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Girl, Chill first..lol its just a character.
Almost everyone? do you even check jtbc's instagram, twitter and youtube? If not please do visit and see who have more supporters! 😊

Coming to Sexual harrasment- Weren't both drunk when she kissed him? And is she seducing him everyday by falling on him and kissing him? I am NOT justifying her action and I agree her actions are wrong! I am saying this because you are going overboard with the term "sexual harrassment".

About Jo Yi Seo, I dont agree with her way to treat people but I can understand why acts like that..she know SRY doesn't have anyone else in this world, she has been with him when he was struggling. She feels bad that he has to go through so much in his life so IMO she wants to fill his life with love, she wants to "give" love..I agree she shouldn't pester him always but show it in her actions but THATS NOT WHO SHE IS..she wants to win at any cost just like how she won in the race. Its her "personality" and whoever thinks SRY's realization was sudden probably wasn't paying attention from the beginning. He actually started falling for her when she cried on his lap, he gets angry whenver she disagrees with him because he thought she was on his side(which he doesn't even expect from SA) He feels insecure about her leaving DB. He really values how she helped him by trapping GW, convinced the grandma, supported Hyun yi etc.. She already got into his heart slowly but he wasn't ready to admit it because of all the excuses he said.. We can actually see him being flustered when she said ILU through phone, he was quite enjoying it but at the same time felt guilty because he has responsibilities and also SA,GS,age gap were the reasons.
He lashed at her because he can see he was feeling guilty to talk to SA infront of YS he just couldn't understand what is happening to him.. Thats why he said "You make me feel uneasy" and she understood that she was already in his heart but he just doesn't admit it so finally when the moment came where he was about to lose YS, it dawned upon him that he was indeed in love with her all the time and decided to confess her.

Coming to SA, she had a very less role in webtoon than in the drama..the writer actually gave a good role for her and I dont see how much more scope he can give her because from the beginning we see her that she was an orphan and doesn't like free things so she works her way through jang ga and finally achieves want she wanted..A house, car etc.. She will probably find a good man in future. What more do you want from her? She can't expect SRY to love her back when she haven't even said she likes him in 15 years!!

I dont think SRY and SA owe anything to eachother because they were never in an official relationship to start with!

tbh All three were selfish about their dreams at some point.

I don't worship or get obsessed with characters unlike "some people" 😛

BYE!

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I really am not going overboard with the sexual harassment comments lolol, because that’s exactly what she’s doing is. Again, to you and everyone else somehow trying to justify sexual harassment, go ahead and do what YS is doing at your work and you’ll see that you’ll get reported for sexual harassment lmaooo.

“I’m not obsessed with some characters”, ah yes, says you as you go around trying your best to explain her YS’s flaws. “I don’t see how much more scope he can give her [SA]”????? By fleshing out more of her character and give her more character development? She’s little more than a plot device at this point (as Sunny stated above) and there are so many things that could have been done to avoid that. I’m not going to even address the rest of your rant because you clearly are just here to try to make yourself feel better about your YS ship while completely ignoring all the points everyone else has been presenting about why that romance is unbelievable.

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Ya know what, I don't think YS has mental illness. She's just using her teenage diagnosis of "exhibiting anti-social traits" as an excuse that she is a sociopath. The way the writer developed her character has given her way too much emotions and empathy a certified sociopath will feel.

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According to your logic even SRY is not a saint either. He put her head on his shoulder when she was 'unconscious' , hugged her, patted her head many times etc.. Is he allowed to do that just because she doesn't say anything? Why blame only Jo Yi Seo? Can we call his act as "sexual harassment" too?

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This has gotta be one of the clearest false equivalency I have ever seen lmaooo. She clearly consented or would have consented to all of that stuff; it’s not really an argument. He, on the other hand, explicitly told her NOT to tell him I love you constantly and she still does not stop, and this has apparently gone on for 4+ years. That’s sexual harassment, full stop.

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The difference here is, he had specifically mentioned he treated her like a younger sister. She never rejected his patting of her head or any other moves of affection. She never look uncomfortable as well. That is consent.
Comparatively, PSRY explicitly told her to stop confessing her love, AND looked uncomfortable. Whether or not he liked her back then, whether or not he realised, that has nothing to do with his lack of consent.
I found YS refreshing in the beginning of this drama, but the way her character was written does severe unjust and I find her immature and repulsive now.

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I think you need to understand that liking a character IN A drama doesn't mean that you agree with it, Yi-seo is my favorite character in the drama and no, i don't always agree with her and the reason why she's the lead is because she makes the drama interesting.
I don't like YS-SRY ship since i think they are better as business partners and friends (the ship with Sooah is as bad as them too so there would have been better if none of the leads end together).
You like her character or hate it, Kim Dami killed it, she's the star of the drama acting wise, i didn't even knew about her before this drama but she left me with my mouth open a few good times.

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I think you all missed that after getting the investment from that old Hymoni; when YS says ILU to YSR, YSR actually feels happy and just acknowledges her, so your judgement that her saying ILU to YSR is sexual harassment is wrong, he acknowledged her love, 2 episodes back !!!!

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Happy lmao? He was taken aback and didn't know what to do, how tf was that a happy expression? And in the last episode, he explicitly told her to stop it (saying I love you to him constantly) and not only did she not, she even said basically that she will keep doing it and he can't fire her because she's too valuable. If you don't think that's harassment, then just go try it at your workplace; say "I love you" to a person over and over even when they asked you to stop, and see if you don't get reported to HR for harassment lol because that is what Yi-Seo did, which is textbook harassment. I'd bet anything that if a guy was relentlessly trying to chase a girl even though she rejected him (like what Geun-Won did to SA) in the drama, you'll be here crucifying him, but because it's Yi-Seo you think it's ok.

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Overreaction. Life is NOT black and white. Yes, he was happy, rewind the episode and watch it. He actually smiles clearly he wasn't "taken aback" OR even didn't know what to say. Per you every office romance is sexual harassment. Have some intellect to differentiate between someone sharing their feelings and sexual harassment.

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I’m dead. First off, do not personally attack me by calling me stupid. I have broken down your ideas, but have never attack you as a person, so I expect the same respect.

Second, I assume you missed the irony of your statement by stating “life is NOT black and white” but then claiming right away in your next sentence that “he was happy” and then he “clearly wasn’t taken aback”.

Third, why do you keep glossing over the fact that he explicitly asked her to stop in the last episode and she didn’t? CONSENT, CONSENT, CONSENT is the differentiation between office romance (and any type of romance) and sexual harassment. She didn’t have consent, chose to override that and not respect his boundaries and showered him with unwanted advances, THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT.

Honestly, arguing against you and several others on this site is like arguing against Kpop stans, y’all only see what y’all want and refuses to see anything else and then decree your visions as the one and absolute truth while everyone else needs “some intellect”. If you want to look past YiSeo’s red flags, that’s your choice, but I also have the choice to not to, and if you don’t like that, then find others to comment on, instead of replying to me while ignoring everything I say and just insisting that you’re correct lol.

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Look who's talking about justifying character. You are accusing me of the same thing that you did. I can't argue about it anymore.

You started about the chemistry thing saying "Almost all don't see chemistry between them" and questioned about their loveline so I gave an explanation because I can understand it but you are still in denial because you don't wanna understand it ..which is fine but please don't state your opinions as "FACTS" !

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Hypocrisy at its best!

"Would have consented"? Did he read her mind before doing that? Consider if any girl stays mum(even out of fear) about her boss constantly touching her, Is it right to continue it if he thinks "She consents it/would consent it"? ("Reverse the gender on all of the things she did" YOUR WORDS not mine!! )
I clearly told you why he says "NO" but you are not even interested to analyse his character rather stuck up with hate on YS and love for SA. Its not like I was the only one who told you that you are going overboard about it.

Anyways I learnt something new that telling "I love you" means "Sexual harassment"...ok!

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I loved YS at first. I thought she was a breath of fresh air. She was so interesting and so flawed and I could not wait to see where they took her character after running into her opposite SRY. I was so horrified at her behavior as the episodes went on--she treated everyone so cruelly and was so self-centered I started to really resent her. When SRY rejected her I thought "this is it--she's going to learn from this and grow as a person." But nope. She kept doing the exact same things, acting the exact same way. To the point where I really dislike her now and she has ruined the show for me. I stopped watching because of her character.

I don't see what she feels for SRY at this point any more than an obsession. Kind of like what SRY's revenge is about, now. While they make good business partners, their romantic relationship is doomed. One of the worst OTPs I've seen in a long while.

I will say, though, the actress is amazing. She can only do so much with that script, though.

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MINDY! DID BAMS DELIVER MY GIFT?!?!

I miss it here. My life is insane.

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This drama relies a lot on our imagination.

Yi Seo is a genius who made IC. But in the facts, all the important battles (the building, investor), she lost them. She did great to promote Danbam and for GW (but he was so stupid that everybody could have recorded him). The investor was more thanks to Toni and SRY's work than her going to Jeju.

Hyun-ni is the best chief even she didn't know she was bad in the beginning and now she doesn't cook anymore.

SRY's love for Yi Seo. We had SYR behaving like a big brother for 13 episodes and suddenly what made him unconfortable is becoming a reason to love her. Park Seo Joon and Kim Da Mi failed to add some sparks between their characters. Yi Seo changed her wardrobe but didn't show a maturity growth, we still have the young girl asking for gift and date. SYR is still the angry man, focused on his revenge.

GW's should have stayed in prison because the story didn't need gang's plot. Romantic Doctor 2 already exhausted me with that.

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RD2 with thugs showing up to collect debts from a doctor and ripping off their shirts And barring massive tattoos in the lobby. Now that’s webtoon material!

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Like Soo-ah, Itaewon Class has been tamed. Enemies are fuel, and the fight between PSRY and Jang gave IC that hot brightness. It’s almost like the grudge match between them became an afterthought.

Not surprised about Geun-won. I mean, kidnapping and attempted murder isn’t more absurd than him being sentenced to 7 years, despite a lack of remorse for murdering someone, and getting out in 4 for good behavior. I want to know how this ends, because the guy is beyond redemption or a sudden bout of Kdrama insanity.

Soo-ah is the most naturalistic character on the show because she is us. We want her to do more because we believe, in her shoes, we would. But we wouldn’t because we love ourselves too much to jeopardize what we’ve fought hard to get. Even if it means bowing and bending, we’d like to keep our red Mercedes coupes and fabulous suits. Soo-ah’s not getting any nosebleeds out of love, and I don’t fault her.

Last thing: there is a film, ‘Happy. Thank You. More. Please.’, where one of the characters is fixated on this idea of love that looks nothing like the love sitting in front of them. The love sitting in front of them tells them, after an exasperated round of “Do I or don’t I?”, to close their eyes and listen, really listen, to all the things they have said. And the character realizes that their idea of love is the voice of the person who loves them. And when that character opened their eyes, they were in love. PSRY is that character.

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"Soo-ah’s not getting any nosebleeds out of love, and I don’t fault her." THISSSSS!! YASSS.

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“we believe, in her shoes“
I know this is slightly taken out of context but I just like the thought as is 😉

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LoL. I wonder if that voice thing ever happen in real life. In the latest episodes PSR has become just dumb. With that revenge obsession and a sudden realization of his love. I wonder what he would feel if hyun yi has a nosebleed. I mean, she's also one of the main reasob of his achievements.

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*reasons

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Hahahaha.. If SRY suddenly declares his love for Hyun Yi, Seung Kwon would prolly be very upset cos I think he has a crush on her.

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Since this series is pulling out all the WTF moments and contrived plot points (really a kidnapping?) essentially trolling its audience, I kinda want it to take to the next level. Have Soo-Ah and Geun-Soo hookup, taking solace in each other after both being rejected by their respective crushes. Have them be the next power couple that take over JangGa, lording over their evil gentrification schemes and other shady business dealings.

I mean Park Sae-Ro-Yi is going to need someone to beat after CEO Jang Dae-Hee dies. I highly doubt that he is going to stop (or can stop?) after 15 years of this. Both Sae-Ro-Yi and Yi-Seo thrive on threats and competition. They need their next big baddie and these two can fill those roles perfectly! PULL OUT THE BIG GUNS SHOW! GO BIG OR GO HOME!

….and since this is the internet and nuance doesn’t exist here I’m just going to put it out there that I’m be sarcastic, just in case you need clarification

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Where's the hahaha react!?

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Hahaha well this comment made my day.

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I ship it. Geun-soo and Soo-ah are my favorite characters.

Just when we thought the Geun-won half of our revenge was over, he goes and pulls this shit. Once Chairman Jang dies, Geun-won ought to be Sae-ro-yi's target again. Geun-soo had nothing to do with Dad's death. If anyone should get revenge on Geun-soo, it's Hyun-yi for outing her. Does Hyun-yi even know?

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Since they went the stupid overused gangster trope, I can only assume that the Lead Hero will get amnesia and forget that he liked Yi Seo. And while we are on this line, might as well give Yi Seo a giant brain tumor, and Soo Ah hoof and mouth disease.

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Omg lol as much as I hate the amnesia plotline in dramas, I would love if PSRY forgets he likes yi-seo. I really do not ship them.

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I'm afraid to say this with all the hate this drama is getting but I was happy wen park sae ro yi finally realised how he felt for yi seo. The drama is flawed yes, aren't they all?

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What upset me was the way it was introduced into the plot, not that fact that he realized it.

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I have to say you are right. I hear you

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SAJANGNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM!

Omfg, that was unexpected.

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I did not like this episode. I thought it was TERRIBLE. From Guen-Woo moving to murder to PSR's realization, it was BAD. So the writers me to tell us he has been in love with her since he saw her, convenient none of his flashbacks were when she was a minor. They could have organically had them fall in love, instead we have this WTF. I am completely over this romance, it is creepy, weird, and the timeline doesn't make any sense. That being said I maintain Soo-Ah is the best written character in this show. With the exception being her complacency with her love for PSR. When she cried to find out he was dying, I cheered. It was so in line with the grayness of her character. She may resent the Chairman and she may not even like him, but he has been her twisted father figure for 15 years. In fact I would venture to say she is more like PSR's father than he is. Of course she is sad he is dying, does he deserve bad things to happen to him, yes, but can she still feel bad absolutely. She is the most human character written in this show. She isn't motived by revenge, obsession disguised as love (Guen soo and Yi Seo) or anger. She just wants to live a good and stable life. Of all the characters I think she will get it before any of them. She will be sad she lost PSR, but she will move on and find someone to love. She realized after he didn't say he loved her that he was gone, so I think she will move on well.

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Like W, the characters move freely between reality and the webtoon. Or at least they must for the writers, but then the viewers aren’t even let in on that osmosis. I was pretty sure I was the only one who missed the crazy re-involvement of Geun-won at this point. Guess I wasn’t though. And I found myself actually laughing out loud when the van of thugs pulled into the front parking spot at the hospital and then posed as staff to administer an IV. Hey I’m in for the long-haul and I’ll see if the next two episodes explain some big things?? Because sometimes the webtoon- turned-K -drama takes me to the back alleys of my mind and I wonder maybe I really could write a K drama? It makes me think of Heartless City which, even though it wasn’t a webtoon first, it could’ve been . And we, or a lot of us anyway, loved it to death. But I digress (much like our show at hand, no?)

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That whole gangster/thug thing is when this drama went from 9/10 to 3/10 for me.

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I’m so sad it took that downturn.

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Thank you for the recap @sunny - with everything that is going on plot-wise, I'm curious when the mob boss finds out who he is helping to take revenge on. He will certainly turn on GW - because he had learned such grudging respect for PSY.
Next week should be interesting.

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Shouldn't Hyung-nim know who Geun-won is if he paid any attention to the news? A chaebol son going to jail is a big deal, and Sae-ro-yi's name was in the reports, which was what led to Danbam's increase in business and invitation to The Best Pub.

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Thanks @stpauligurl. I was confused. First off I thought there were 2 different gang bosses. Turns out there is one Boss Hee-hoon. I don’t get it. Many years before he told SRY (ep. 2) (when they were leaving prison) “If you need help, call me anytime.” When asked about SRY he said “He’s a man! (Perhaps he meant something like, “this guy is a real man!”). Also Seung-kwon was part of his gang. I thought he might come back into the picture to help SRY but not to take him out. Maybe the cliffhanger ending is a red herring. Nevertheless PSR is laying down there in a ditch just like his father.
O/T. The special affects folks who gave us the excellent crash of Mr. Park were brought back for the sequence where PSR gets hit by a car. Top notch work.

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Sorry. PSR=SRY.

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@marcusnyc20 - I didn't see SRY laying on the ground the same as his dad - but yes that was interesting. Something tells me the presence of the gang boss is going to be significant.

Thanks for spelling out his name - I had it wrong too.

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At first, I thought Hyung-nim would come back and "take care" of Geun-won since he seemed to care for Sae-ro-yi like one of his own, so I kept wishing Hyung-nim knew Geun-won killed Dad.

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We can only hope.

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@Sunny Yes to all the commentary. You've phrased everything I'm feeling perfectly. I really liked your analysis of President Jang being a warped father figure to Soo-Ah, and the lesson on revenge. iNtErEsTiNg sTuFf~ Sigh, I so disappointed with this episode. I am upset by these new developments, like should I even tune in for the finale? ): I mean, I still will but I anticipate being further upset by it. And this show started out so strong T_______T

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The kidnapping plot was so random. Maybe this was Geun-won's way of getting back at Yi-seo for outing the truth about the hit-and-run, and also destroy Park Sae-royi?

Also, I've said it that PSR is dense like a chestnut. The realization that he loves Yi-seo is anti-climactic because he is what he is. Yi-seo working to the point of being hospitalized because she felt she had to earn the right to say what she feels is heartbreaking. She knows what she's doing is not right, but that justification.... Love is just not rational, right?

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If love was rational most of us would remain single forever.

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Hahaha! If love was rational, life wouldn't be worth living at all.

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I literally made an account just to talk about IC.

In short, I'm pretty disappointed with the direction of the drama. It started with so much promise to the point that I can barely believe the shark jump it gave in these past episodes.

I just don't get it. If the writers knew that 16 episodes wasn't going to be enough to make the drama be as similar as the original material, why not change it, so that the pacing is better, and we don't have a 4 year jump that solves nothing and explains nothing?

I think, talking about characters, my biggest disappointment comes from Yiseo. I really liked her character, though I always rooted for her to grow and change as a character as the series went by. I thought that, when she was rejected, she would learn that she can't have everything she wants no matter how hard you try and would just leave Saeroyi alone.

But no. She had to continually harass Saeroyi, even when he has told her he is uncomfortable. Moreover, Saeroyi supposedly fell for Yiseo, using the 4 year time skip as a way to not show the viewers how did he fall, anyway.

In general, I just feel that these episodes veered into cliche, and I'm just disappointed.

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I think 4 year jump is justified to show the immense progress IC company made; it would have been boring to pour over the business progress in a drama. This episode clearly shows how YS worked very very hard and thus claimed place in YSR's heart. In previous episodes, YS is shown declaring her love 3 times, 3rd time [ after getting the investment from that old Hymoni] when she says it YSR actually feels happy, so I had an inclination YSR will surely fall for YS.

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O/T. Welcome aboard @dskwjy1432 and pleased you registered. Easier on the eyes!

Even though I never warmed up to Yi-seo I get where you are coming from.

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If the writer makes YS lets go of PSR, lets her grow mellower who knows how to handle not just her own but others' feelings too, I guess the romance could be more palpable. The meaning of unconditional love itself is to love without expecting anything in return. This is what the writer has failed to point out. YS is clearly doing anything for PSR because she desperately wants PSR to love her back. What's more annoying is she even acts like his girlfriend, sarcastically reminds PSR of how she'll be working hard alone while PSR goes on a date and gets mad when she bumps into PSR and SA drinking together. YS seems to get the ticket to do just about anything and people still find it cute. While PSR should be feeling more guilty towards SA whose heart is about to crumble because of his change of heart, and bcause he's gonna break his promise, it turns out YS gets the spot of his guilt for not reciprocating her feeling. The world is apparently upside down in Itaewon Class.

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Kim Da-Mi is far too cute to have any evil within her.

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Instead of doing a 4 year time jump, they should have tighten the story a little and then dedicated episode 10-14 on a yearly time jump like Year 1, Year 2, Year 3, and Year 4 with them dedicating the entire hour to show how they were able to build Danbam. Like what happened to that guy Soo Ah was friends with who gave PSRY the good idea about another location. We could have seen that unfold in one of the episodes, I think that would have played out better. The drama is still good but my interest has switched to Hi Bye Mama.. lol

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I think 4 year jump is justified to show the immense progress IC company made; it would have been boring to pour over the business progress in a drama.

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I dont think so, watching IC rise would have been great, this is an underdog story, watching our underdog rise slowly is equally important. I think showings IC progress along the way would have added to the story.

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I do wonder if YSR will die???!!! OR go into coma??? Then SA and YS get together and take revenge on his behalf??? Speculating :)

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Very amused by many sexual harassment posts; per them any office romance is a sexual harassment !!!

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Damn, I love this drama!!

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Points I want to present WRT some people saying YS's confession of love to YSR is sexual harassment ; It is NOT because =
1. YSR takes no action against YS even though YS offers to resign if YSR is unable to handle her feelings. Clearly, YSR understands and is NOT "harassed"
2. YSR's character is such that he does NOT take any wrong doing despite tremendous loss to him. That is in fact basis of the drama itself, his fight against Jagga for the wrong doings when he refuses to apologize and his father also resigns. Then how can you think he will accept any kind of "harassment" that too from his own employee????
3. He is not shy to "hurt" people's feelings, he clearly says so to Soo ah and Geun Soo about his intention to go after Jangga even if it hurts them. Thus, if Sae ro yi felt he was being "harassed" in any manner, he wouldn't be shy to strongly put stop it even when Yi Seo was core member of his team.
4. YSR acknowledges YS's feelings when she says it over phone. He is clearly shown as happy, he sort of smiles. His smile is relevant because he is shown rarely smiling. [ That was indication from writers of the show that eventually YSR will fall for YS]
5. Even in this episode, his protest was clearly very weak. If one understand love relationship, clearly, he was reluctant to address the chemistry he and YS had. When YS confronts him back, he is indeed thoughtful of his feelings. As expected two scenes later, he is shown to realize in front of Soo ah, who he really likes more.
Thus, as per above points, those who think it was "sexual harassment", you are wrong. Kindly use a little bit intellect to understand human behavior. Every office romance is NOT sexual harassment.
At same time NOT belittling the hugely problematic issue of sexual harassment at workplace. IMHO drama "Something in the rain" addressed this very very clearly and beautifully.

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Is there such thing as office romance? In my country, office romance is not allowed. Office is certainly not a place where u get to romance ur boy/girlfriend. Even spouses are not adviced to do such thing in the office. In PSR and YS case, I'm not sure if we can call that office romance since they're not dating. YS is clearly the one acting like she's her boss's girlfriend, while PSY repeatedly warns her to stop. If PSR has sensed his fondness being treated that way, he should've dated her long ago. I don't think one can be as dumb to still be confused about his own feeling for years.

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ROTFLMAO @ " In my country, office romance is not allowed. " Kindly inform which is this country where "office romance" is illegal.
More LOL @ "I don't think one can be as dumb to still be confused about his own feeling for years." Well well, in many dramas such is that case! :)

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Are you watching "Itaewon Class"??? I didn't see one scene where Yi Seo does this = "YS is clearly the one acting like she's her boss's girlfriend"

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I'm not sure if a non-girlfriend does these
- repeatedly I LOVE U
- online shop in her boss's office
-asking him to buy her a necklace
- gets mad over PSR and SA drinking together

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To help you out:
- kiss the boss while he was black out drunk
-threatens to quit if he keeps meeting with SA
-physically assaults SA to stop them from kissing
But I’d advise you to stop arguing against her, because while other YS people on this thread at least acknowledges the sexual assault (kiss) and harassment, she’s gone all out in claiming it’s not even though there’s ZERO consent (he explicitly has said no) between them and then belittling others with false equivalency between “office romance” and wtvr this is.

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Clearly point #1 is a manipulation from YS.

But it's ok. We're intellectually disabled people ;)

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Sorry, can i just point out that it's Park Sae Ro Yi = SRY and Yi Seo = YS.
In my head i keep reading your YSR = Yi Sae Ro, which is dumb and I'm being ridiculous but yeahhh..

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Despite the plot holes and larger-than-life twists (fairy godmother's billion worth of investment and Hyun-yi's winning streak at a cooking show) in Itaewon Class, I still love this show.
When PSRY finally came to terms with his feeling towards YS, I was elated. I rooted for them. So it was a major bummer that GW had to ruin the crucial moment by kidnapping YS.
It was when YS opened the first episode through her session with a shrink, that I decided to invest my weekends with IC. The first two episodes felt a bit dull without her presence, and the story picked up when she entered the picture. She is such an interesting character.
At this point, I just hope the writer wraps up everything nicely in the final two episodes and the ending won't disappoint!

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Why should PSRY let go of his revenge? Why shouldn't he want to beat Chairman Jang, the man who is obsessed with breaking him, who took credit for rejuvenating Jangga when it was actually another man who he treated like a dog?

I can understand if PSRY left bodies and destruction behind in his pursuit of revenge, but he has created something substantial, has helped and touched and uplifted people on his quest to show Chairman Jang he will not be tamed, that he can be a boss and still be humane. It so tired and cliched to think wanting revenge is a character flaw.

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YES.

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To me, it's not a flaw but at what cost is he getting the revenge? He's built his empire and has made a little family for himself but is he really happy? He's put his lovelife on hold in pursue of revenge yet at the end of it all, as he lay dying, the thing he misses is his love and what he regrets is rejecting that love - not that he hasn't beaten Jangga to be no. 1. Revenge has served well as his motivation but it's not without a cost to his peace/happiness.

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I am really enjoying this Drama, it is so much more than what I was expecting, especially since I read the webtoon. I agree that this episode was a bit of mess, but I think it was mostly because of the writer trying to combine two big events in the webtoon into one. It didn't work, the translation from the webtoon to drama is a little too mixed up, there was bound to be a mush up of a bunch of stuff sooner or later, but I still found 4 moments that I really enjoyed.

1. The Scene with Yi-Seo and Hyun-yi
It was actually a very heartbreaking. She is in the hospital from exhaustion and still trying to work. As the conversation with Hyun-yi goes on, Yi-seo says that recently she has started to tell Seoroyi that she is in love with him, I took that to mean she has not been doing that the entire 4 years, but only now that the goal of being number 1 is in sight, and to her, she hasn't moved his heart. This is her laying it all out. She needs to work and competent to justify being by his side, she knows its just an excuse, but its the only one she has. To me, this is a very different girl than the one we meet at the beginning of the series, her confidence dealing with him is gone, she feels like she is expendable to Saeroyi since that initial rejection, and once they reach their goal, thats it.

2. Saeroyi finally admitting to himself he love Yi-Seo
I actually thought this moment was sweet. The proposal that Yi-Seo wrote up providing the lead in to Saeroyi admitting to himself that he loves Yi-Seo was really nice. I am one of the people that interpreted episode 9 onward him gaining feels for her. His signature head rub when ever he is conflicted over something, the glances he would take at her, the emotion she could make him express, even soo-ah didn't know he could be that emotional. Also, the first snow falling doing Yi-Seo confession (classic drama) I can still see why people think it came out of now where, the display of conflicted feelings from Saeroyi is too subtle, but guess that falls in line with his character.

3. Soo-ah and Chairmain Jang
This scene was so sinister. She crying, she don't why, but Chairman Jang tells her it is because he formed her to his will. she is obedient. This made me look at every single time she showed up around Saeroyi so different. Chairman Jang was just testing how well she was trained really. Chairman Jang has her so wrapped that even though she can see Saeroyi all she wants she would never dare try to leave Jangha or give up any valuable information. this realization for me makes the flower pot scene even more messed up. Chairman Jang sends 2 messages for Saeroyi 1. the actually flower pot 2. Soo-ah, but not in the way I originally thought 'He made the girl he cares about bring this message so it'll hurt more', now I see it as 'be obedient and know your place, just like Soo-ah'

4. Saeroyi lets go of Soo-ah
I am not going to lie. I enjoyed this very much. Especially when she started asking...

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I think that Soo Ah *WAS* well trained. And she allowed it to happen against her principles. I have no sympathy for her.

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People are forgetting that this a DRAMA. It’s not real life. If you see sexual harassment in real life then yes, by all means address it and report it. If you can’t even separate dramas from real life then don’t bother watching anything because I can tell you ALL of the dramas would have some sexual harassment element to it.

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It's not sexual harassment even in RL. Sae Ro Yi is the boss. He has the power to fire Yi Seo. But he's never even considered it except way back in the beginning, and that was because of her cruel remarks to other employees, even when some of her suggestions were probably accurate from a purely business POV. The other time he threatened to fire her was for her own good, when she was trying to leave the hospital to work.

I think it's pretty obvious that Sae Ro Yi never felt in the least bit "sexually harassed" by the declarations of love. He was flummoxed, in part because as time passed, despite all his alleged objections, his reliance on and affection for her grew, as he finally admitted to himself at the end of this episode.

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This is the definition of sexual harassment as per official dictionary:

“behavior characterized by the making of unwelcome and inappropriate sexual remarks or physical advances in a workplace or other professional or social situation.”

I do understand that normally it is done by a male to female. And we’re primed that it is done by a person in power over a subordinate. But please review official definition = any unwelcome and inappropriate remarks, without qualifiers on gender or position.

Yi seo’s first I love you I can understand . But repeating over and over again?

And to those saying Sae Ro Yi wanted it...Which part of repeated “no” didnt we understand? He said “no”, but deep down he really wants it? This thinking is such a slippery slope!

Now I do know it’s a drama, we should relax. Ordinarily I would let it pass. Especially if shown as a childish crush. But the fact it will get rewarded (and I guess celebrated by many fans), is what is disturbing to me.

Now focusing purely on creatives, I also feel there’s no chemistry and no organic growth, but that’s just me.

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Has nothing to do with gender. Office policies are broad generic guidelines for RL situations. In reality, the owner and CEO of a company doesn’t bring sexual harassment charges against a subordinate. Because they have total power and can terminate them.

And She’s not grabbing his ass or asking him out or cornering SRY in a corner. She’s saying she loves him,