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When My Love Blooms: Episodes 3-4 Open Thread

As our concurrent storylines continue to unfold, we learn more about who are leads were, and who they are now. This sets up some dynamic contrasts between the passionate student protestor who sacrificed his principles and became a chaebol son-in-law, and the well-to-do daughter of a prosecutor who hit rock bottom in every sense of the word.

 
EPISODES 3-4 WEECAP

No wonder I loved this drama’s opening week — it’s a poem to all things underdog. It’s about principles and passion, and how people change as they move through life. Does it use some predictable story elements to get there? Yes, but don’t they all? When My Love Blooms might have some tropes of a typical romantic melodrama, but they don’t detract (at least not yet) from the lovely gravity that this story has, nor the steadiness with which it’s delivered.

We ended last week’s episodes with Ji-soo getting on her knees to appease Seo-kyung, only to be yanked up by a rather angry Jae-hyun, who calls off the school violence committee once and for all. Jae-hyun might be known as a sell-out (to himself and those that knew him when he was young), but deep down he’s still the Jae-hyun of the past. We see it in tender moments where he shows concern for Ji-soo, or when he talks to her son at school and tells him he knows his own son was bullying him.

He’s only just met her again, but already we are seeing Jae-hyun affected by Ji-soo. His wife notices that he’s acting/thinking differently (after he sees the ajumma protestors in a different light), and he warns her, “I might change even more.” When she asks why, he says, “To be happy.” It’s such a great moment, because we’re not only seeing the change in Jae-hyun, but we’re seeing him become cognizant of this change, too, and the need for it.

Jae-hyun and Ji-soo run into each other an awful lot, half of it by storytelling serendipity, and half of it fabricated by Jae-hyun himself. It’s like he sees in her what he lost in himself. And Ji-soo doesn’t spare the horses as she tells him, obliquely, how much he has changed. “You taught me the losing side is our side,” she says. She’s still on that side, but he’s not.

Every bit of principle and moral that Ji-soo now lives by is one that she learned from observing Jae-hyun back in their college years. In the college storyline, we might get to watch Ji-soo swept off her feet by Jae-hyun, but in the present day, we see how much their relationship really informed who she became. It’s a powerful statement because so much of what attracted her to him, she took on herself. Ah, it’s all so romantic. And this drama is incredibly romantic, in the most grounded and graceful sense of that word.

We get a better sense of Jae-hyun’s present day life with this week’s episodes, from the lime green lambo-driving wife that plays like she’s cheating on him but actually idolizes him, to the father-in-law that makes him do all the dirty work. How did Jae-hyun get himself here, though?

Those same questions are still floating around Ji-soo too, except in reverse. She might still be true to herself, as her faithful companion JOO YOUNG-WOO (Lee Tae-sung) points out, but did her steadfastness work against her? She’s been a punching bag for the people around her her whole life, and if she did indeed escape the abusive household of her past, grown-up Ji-soo has boomeranged right back to it.

How much have our characters really changed, and how much have they stayed the same? And the biggest question of all: Jae-hyun and Ji-soo are magical together in the college storyline — what exactly happened to tear them apart? I love that the drama is taking its time to tell us.

I don’t want to say there’s not a ton of plot in this drama, because it’s got a really strong story — it just covers ground slowly and steadily since we are essentially watching two dramas at the same time get woven into one. The plot is about piecing both stories together and answering all those questions.

That being said, there’s a lot that happens in the present-day storyline to push things forward. In addition to all the internal conflicts swirling around, there’s Seo-kyung, who looks to be our major source of external antagonism (but look out, I’m sure the ex-husband will stick his nose into things shortly).

Not only does Seo-kyung know that her husband is dissatisfied with his life, but she knows it has to do with the choices he made (viz., to marry her and into the conglomerate) — and she knows that Ji-soo is at the center of it all.

So, Seo-kyung does what all jealous chaebol heiresses do: she sets up a scenario to humiliate our heroine. While I was glad Ji-soo didn’t just stand there and take it, I was hoping for a little more… well-roundedness?… to Seo-kyung’s character. I’m hoping she doesn’t just become a 2D antagonist.

Regardless, her ploy only pushes our leads closer together. Even though Ji-soo hasn’t shown a smidgen of warmth around Jae-hyun, we know her heart is about to explode. So when he takes her away from the scene of her misery (that particular moment and the overarching circumstances of her life), it’s no surprise that she cracks.

The pair has been slowly reliving all their moments, from the footsteps in the snow, to Jae-hyun giving her his shoes. She told him again and again that he was her whole world, but this time it’s Jae-hyun’s turn. He tells her she was his dream. And now, to meet that dream again after he had lost it… *cue ultra romantic moment on the beach*

At the end of the episode, the two share a kiss, and though it’s half romantic, it’s also morally objectionable, and way too soon in the story (for me, anyway). I would have liked to see the tension between them play out for much longer than we have, because watching them be pulled back together is half of the journey. Also, since this drama looks like it will be very much about Jae-hyun finding his way back to himself and his principles, wouldn’t it have been nice if this was a story about them loving but holding back? Sometimes that can be more powerful.

Mixed feelings on the ending of this week’s episodes aside, When My Love Blooms has been very confidently telling its story. The way the two storylines echo each other (almost too perfectly), gives me the feeling that they know what they’re doing — and that they know exactly where they’re going too. So, let’s see where week three brings us.

 
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“ this drama is incredibly romantic, in the most grounded and graceful sense of that word.” THIS! Thank you..

I tried to find proper words to describe how I feel but I couldn’t! This drama makes me sad in a very beautiful way! As I was watching ep.4 I was aware of the number of tears rolling down at the same time and I didn’t even want to wipe them away! I felt like I owe them those drops for showing such a precious love story..
Ji-soo has become one of my all time fav heroines! We don’t know what she has gone through to become such a tired-of-life woman she is now! She used to be a fighter (I loved how she was more determined after being rejected each time and she finally got what she wanted)! I don’t find the present Ji-soo miserable at all! She fights when she feels it’s needed ( when she took her mask off and didn’t let Seo-kyung get what she wanted).. She still has it but when she said “I’m my guardian”, that was explained a lot!

I love Jae-hyun but I want him suffer a bit more!! He has always been in pain not just because of losing Ji-soo but also losing himself but he was a leader who betrayed his own followers...

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opening line..

Yes and Yes

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Fun fact: Lee Bo Young said that out of all the characters she's played thus far, Ji-Soo was by far her most favorite. That's saying something, because this woman knows how to choose. She has conviction and morale, but at the same time she is an understated character with fire burning in her.

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I found that kiss at the end very sad and melancholic. In the best way possible of course! It was all about what they had lost, rather than current-day attraction and I found that very moving.

Especially because this seems to be a drama about what these two have lost after their first relationship broke up. The reconnection with Ji-soo has for Jae-hyun become a mirror to see how he used to be and what he's since become (although I had a feeling he came out of prison with a plan? ). For Ji-soo, meeting Jae-hyun is like a little holiday from her tough day-to-day life. A break from all the pressure she's under. But I also like that she said that before he came back it was easier to cope with that, plus that the way he is today, crushes the wonderful memories of what he used to be like. I love strong & determined Ji-soo and I loved that the drama showed that she wasn't always like that but that Jae-hyun helped her find her backbone.

Anyway, I'm loving this drama so far. Both the writing and the acting are fantastic.

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Beatifully explained :)

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I'm with you on that when you say "It was all about what they had lost, rather than current-day attraction and I found that very moving."
I don't agree with missvictrix's comment about the kiss being too soon. I personally think she missed the point of that kiss. It's not a kiss of "Let's go out together"... But "I'm tired, I just want a break for a while, go back to that period I was happiest and forget real life for a second".

They both probably have tons of regrets and once at this age, you can't go back easily on the choices you've made... And there are times when you DO need a break and for me Ji Soo took that break there. They both have romantic feelings left, especially since it didn't truly end properly: A first love that was fulfilled and ended badly you can easily forget, but one you never got a proper rejection to because you never confessed your feelings, or one which ended without ANY explanation, can hardly be forgotten because there was never any proper closure.

It's clear Ji Soo is aware Jae Hyun's married and there's nothing to do about it so what's a little kiss when she has not intention to follow through ( yeah yeah, it all starts from there)? After all, He's just that: a breath of fresh air.

On the other side, Jae Hyun is all for doing what he's planning and divorcing his wife once that's done whether Ji Soo had appeared or not. So I guess the meaning for him is slightly different.
For Ji Soo, it's probably, just a break from reality, albeit a short one, for Jae Hyun, whose intentions Ji Soo doesn't know, it might be a promise for later, once he's got his "business" done ( frankly what kind of father would encourage his daughter to stay married to a man who obviously has not one ounce of romantic feeling left for his daughter. She is also very sick. It must be extremely tiring spending all your time and energy having things going your way).

Still, onboard all the way for me. Haven't been that obsessed by a k drama in years. I guess that's the romantic in me. Never managed to forget my first love as well so gah... This is the ultimate fantasy I guess?

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Totally agree with your perspective of their thinking

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I also think JaeHyun has a plan since he came out of prison, and I believe that plan is related to taking down the conglomerate: the leaking of the news about the accounts, how he's keeping distances with his wife...

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I usually dont write comments but this show makes me crazy cant describe my feelings, i wasnt excited like this since watching DOTS. Really looking forward to the next episodes. Cinematography, effects, music, chemistry between lead actors is great. Actress that played young Jisoo is really pretty they did great job for casting, her image really suits young innocent, naive, bubbly young Jisoo. Shortly i love everything about this drama ❤❤❤

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let me put a shallow note first: yoo ji tae doing pull up in white shirt in this week's ep, after having one last week, ahem is just beautiful, hahaa..gosh, i was wondering whether the pd put that scene as a fanservice, you know, for a v.decent premiere rating :D

I agree about many things have been said in this weecap, including how i had a mixed reaction toward the last scene, but overall I still just love this show..again, the dialogue, I love it so far, from the younger and idealistic students, to the present ('capitalistic') days, i feel like the writer knows how to be in the 40s ;)

one thing I would like to add, the jh's wife was actually more layered that what I've expected, personally i was surprised that she's not a plain crazy wife, from what she said it seems that she has a clear view on how the their parenting (her and jae hyun) could be one of reasons that affected their son's behaviour, she's a spoiled brat but at least acknowledged their lacking as parents, and seems would want to work on it, so maybe her as a mother would be her arc, also I like her 'honest' conversation with jae hyun where they discuss her 'cheating', I like her a bit more there, let's hope that she won't end up as one-note histerical wife..

look forward to next week!

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I also think she's more layered than the normal evil chaebol wife but I do think she's weirdly deluded.

When she was asking why he wasn't 'happy', I nearly laughed. Did she forget that he just spent years in jail covering up for what his father-in-law has done? During which time she slept with another guy because she was lonely? And then she wonders why he might be more interested in spending time with another woman? The self-centredness astounded me but also made me feel a little sorry for her.

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Totally agree, but also I like her honesty: when confronted with the evidence of her affair, she said she felt lonely, that she didn't have anyone to turn to. And also when she continuously asks JaeHyun to talk to their son and take care of him, I liked when she said, she was no good to rise a child, because she could never do it right. She's selfish, obviously, but she's honest, I have to admit it.
Also, she loves her son, when he arrived from school, the way she addressed to him was warm, in opposition to the boy's indifference, which really affected her.
That said, I don't like her character at all!!

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Frankly, I would not label her answer as being honest. It's a selfish answer that shows her attitude of entitlement. There is no sense that what she did was wrong and she was so nonchalant about it. Her husband was in prison for a crime he did not commit in order to save her father's skin, and she was bored??? If you're bored, go shopping, travel, work or better still, spend more time with your son! It's amazing that she can call Jae Hyun out for not spending enough time with their son when he was in prison for 4 years while she has time to have an affair because she was bored.
I feel that she has been having her own way for so long that her answer seems as if she thinks she's entitled to the affair. The way she said it was also so matter of fact - no moral ground.
And she's now jealous that JH shows attention to SJ. I was actually astonished that she did not show any joy that he was back from prison - my first impression was that she was a sister. And she made an excuse for not picking him up from prison. She did not pay any attention to him, yet says the she is enamored with him? Her actions don't show that she loves him. They are actions of possession - "He belongs to me. You can't have him." So she can have an affair, but her husband cannot show feelings for another woman? Seriously, I have no sympathy for her plight. If she had been faithful and showed genuine affection for JH, my heart would go out to her.

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Well said. Just because Seo Kyung admits not knowing how to be a good parent does not immediately make her a better person. Her son still suffers from poor parenting, and the bullying is likely a result of that. Admitting one's fault but not having a bit willingness to make any change is just as detestable.

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Rhetorical question (asking for a friend):

Has there ever been a chaebol wife in a k-drama that was NOT evil?

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In Love with Flaws, both KangWoo mum and grandma were funny and warm hearted chaebol wives, and even if they want to act evil, they would be sooooo sweet.
Apart from those two, I cannot think of a single one.

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I liked the chaebol couple in Search WWW (just not the mother-in-law)

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Not chaebol wife but chaebol family, Oh My Venus!

The grandmother was so open and welcoming towards Shin Min-ah, along with the family who accepted her for who she was. Loved it b/c it didn't create unnecessary angst.

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I felt a bit of sympathy for her when she said that the only decision she never regretted was choosing him, and how she knows she has nothing going for her other than him and their son. It made me sad that she didn't have her own identity separate from her family life. I hope that they explore that a bit more, and not paint her as a 'villain.' There are interesting shades to her.

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I felt sympathy for her too, when she said that choosing him was the best thing she'd ever done, but that for him choosing her was the best he could do...

However, I'm intrigued by the fact that she doesn't seem to have done more to protect him from her father - and still isn't - and I hope that the drama is going to explore that!

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I was actually really disappointed in episode 4. Everything about the treatment of Ji Soo was a throwback cliche. She got slapped, a drink dumped on her, embarrassed by the 2nd FL, and sent to jail. She is also poor and struggling. Also she was abused by her father and blamed for her mother's death. Why? It is tragedy porn for no other reason then to be dramatic. Then his "I just can't quit you speech" on the beach, then get a divorce. I wish I saw it like the other beanies do, because I was excited for this. However, I am out.

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At the beginning I also thought his father was talking about her mother, but then and specially after those scenes where she's despised because she "only" plays the piano and does not study Law, I realised his father my have been referring to her younger sister (or brother, I didn't get it) who would fulfill all the family's expectations.

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I can't help but wonder why he ever married her in the first place, as it is obvious he barely likes her, much less lover her.

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Thanks @missvictrix for the nice review. However, I agree with most of the comments above, and against the review, that their middle age kiss is not too soon (If you count the time, their youthful kiss happened more then a year since they know each other and began dating). At the same time, I don't think today's Jae-hyun need more suffering, or the pair today need more hold back. You know from the first time they meet at the train station in current timeline, there is not only "still have some love left", but they love and longing to each other a lot. This love can sustain Ji-soo to keep on "standing with the losing side (Oh my god, this is such a powerful statement!)", and when Ji-soo reappears in his live, Jae-hyun have to motivation to find his happiness back. Well, it is also interesting the young Jae-hyun comments on the reason his dislike of war movies "For every individual, they are their own story's protagonist," so, "we are allo God's children," and "don't let people, even your own family, to treat you poorly." Ji-soo is getting her will to live on, no matter during her university years or right now, Jae-hyun is her source, so as his journey back to happiness and principle, her is his fuel.

Oh my god, this story is epic, and although it also involve, arguably, some cheating, the story is so very beautiful. We now know Jae-hyun is not a fully lost child to his principle and his love. Now, as I have stated in the first review, it will be time to explore how he lost his principle, and stand to the opposite side of his first love/apprentice, and I am truly looking forward to it.

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And by the way, with another notorious drama about cheating airing in another station, we now have quite a few angles to talk about cheating, as young Jae-hyun said to Ji-soo, "For every individual, they are their own story's protagonist."

I have so many tears watching this show, as Jae-hyun and Ji-soo's story being unfolded ...

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I like how he was the one who shaped her in their younger days, gave her courage to find her own strength and stand up for herself, and also find conviction for her own life. And how it has now come full circle and she's the one leading him to find himself back after all these years.

And I especially like how both storylines are interwoven very nicely. I think this is actually very difficult to achieve -- to let the old storyline play out in a chronological way, instead of a piecemeal fashion, yet still relevant to the current timeline's progress without being jarring. Everything is very meticulously thought out and so beautifully interwoven.

However, I must say I didn't like the typical K-drama poor candy-like tropes, even if applied in a middle-aged setting. And I also have mixed reactions about that last ending kiss scene... sure, his marriage is a loveless one (at least for him) and his wife cheated on him, but they are still in a marriage. It's romantic for the story, but objectionable from an objective point of view nonetheless sigh.

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At this point I have more sympathy for his wife than I do Ji-Soo. She is stuck in a one sided marriage competing with a first love that he has not seen in decades. Ji-Soo pretty much made her own choices, and some did not turn out well.

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I agree with the comments about the kiss in the last scene.
I just think JiSoo needed it, needed that break, needed to feel. Just that. To feel she's still alive, because so far she's just been surviving.
I have many theories based on nothing really, but I want to share some of them with you: if I am wrong I would only be guilty of having lots of imagination ;-)
- I believe JaeHyun has a plan to take down the conglomerate, or at least, his father in law. I want to think that the time in jail made him reflect about his recent past. There has been some hints (the leaking to the press, his telling SeoKyeong that he will change even more...).
- I have the feeling the marriage between JaeHyun and SeoKyeong is more fictional than real, and that it has been like that from the beginning. I even think he's not JaeHyun's son. That conversation when his wife tells him she loves him and wants to make their marriage work, and his only answer is "thank you". Not just: I don't love you anymore, but "thanks" made me feel he's never loved her in that way and that they both know. It would also explain why he cares more for JiSoo's son that his, something that I really don't like.
- JiSoo's family fallen in disgrace must be related to her sibling's death and her going to jail.
Let's see if any of this comes true.

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Four episodes in, I know I'll be a stayer and am surprised at how much I like the parallel youth story which is well acted and directed beautifully - since the main attraction to me was the YJT-LBY pairing.

What sets this story apart from the other first love unfulfilled stories is the role reversal of the two leads as to how they influenced each other but life is not on their sides (or they both have been relegated to the losing sides.) I do agree and hope as other commentators said that this will be a story of redemption for Jae-Hyun. It's heartbreaking to hear him say in the final beach scene that Ji-soo is her dream. That said a lot of what a broken man he is.

This then comes to the point if Ji-soo is a Candy. She may appear so but what we see from the youthful day is an empowered journey through Jae-hyan. Of course, we still need to see how that part of the story unfolds as I imagine the parallel storytelling will go on for a while. The Ji-so today acts out of pragmatism with clear eyes, rather than because she is another Candy. It's a relief (if I could use this word) to see her let go for a moment to initiate that kiss. If the writer decides to have a kiss this early on, I am really intrigued on what they have in store for us.

All in all, an incredibly romantic drama that we haven't seen for some time.

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Just checked - this comes from the PD of Shall We Kiss First. No wonder about the romantic feel and look.

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I am more interested in Jae Hyun's wife, she seems surprisingly candid and has shades to her. I think if the writers want, they could really say something meaningful and compelling in terms of story telling with her character. But they will probably turn her into textboom kdrama villain. Jae Hyun and Ji Soo, its clear life has not been kind to either and they are merely shadows of their past self. But that does not excuse Jae Hyun's actions. He is very callous to his lawfully wedded wife and seems plain disinterested in their son's well being. Some fan theory are saying that is because he may not be biological father. If that is the case, then I will dislike him even more. If you decide to put yourself in the role of a child's father, you then need to step up and see it through. Ji Soo was just too much of a candy this episode, wine being thrown, shoes broke, slapped, went to jail. Her intentions are well but seriously clashes with her choice to be a single parent. It is clear that she has primary physical custody because her husband chose not to challenge her in court. She has a rap sheet, barely has an income, her son passed out from exhaustion and she wanted to get into a clash with police, add to that her father raised her constantly hating her. I am sorry, there is no logic to her actions here, she is stubborn to the point of being stupid and comes across as a masochist. I am not surr why she refuses child support. Therr better be good reason because whatever she is doing to make up for her lack of adequate cash flow is not doing any favor to her son. He needs to be in a different school close to both his parents. I honestly feel both are really in no healthy space to be parents at the moment. Custody probably should go to their respective ex and to be exes. That said, I like the flashbacks. At least I can ship them in that timeline.

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I agree with you about SeoKeyong. I believe there's much more she could be used in the story than just being a villain. She's selfish, sure, but there's many things on her that can be good.

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This for sure "stubborn to the point of being stupid and comes across as a masochist". I am seeing a lot of noble idiocy in her actions, for no good reason. She hates her father, her father hates her - yet she still shows up at the care facility?

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I am so slow, I just realized the young Ji Soo was the pretty, loyal friend to Jin Hyuk ( Park Bo Gum) in Encounter.. LOL.. I was wondering why she looked familiar..

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I love that the two main leads are quiet and understated characters. They are human, and we see their armor crack a bit through their interactions.

I think the biggest thing that makes this show is the portrayal of their political activism. What we see in these episodes is Ji-Soo going more into the protests, and Jae-hyun in the present time delving away from that only to think twice when he meets her again.

There's an understated and quiet elegance to this show. No doubt in no part because of the two outstanding and brilliant actors who give this show levity and gravity.

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thanks for the recap:-) its so well written....since i like reading reunion trope in my books, i'm really liking this show and how the story goes back and forth, but i was really hoping they don't kiss just yet..., so waiting to see what happens in the next episode.

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The kiss was appropriate not only based on story line but of what Ji-soo said, that they should each keep their places ... and only after hearing Jae-hyun say that for him she was a dream from which he can never get out, only then she kissed him after saying he is bound to wake up as it is only a dream. She kissed him as if they were in his/their dream. And what an elegant and graceful last scene that should have gone for a little longer! Hopefully we will get the longer version next episode.

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Forgot to comment that each of the scenes where Ji-soo is playing the beautiful piano piece is very pleasing for the senses, she just looks high-class and stands out from the rest, especially with her mask...

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Check the couple photo shoot for the pictorial of 1st Look, found on the Soompi site, simply beautiful on a higher level.

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This drama gives me the same vibe as My Love Eundong. Similar story, similar yearning minus the amnesia!

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I am sure that amnesia will show up soon...

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Thanks for the weecap.

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i appreciate all the comments i've read here so far in describing the drama's understated elegance, and that of the leads too.

...but am i also the only one who has laughed out loud at certain scenes for being too makjang? >.< this is the second week in the row i've found myself doing that, and i usually don't see it this way, i promise lol. maybe it's just Ji-tae oppa's overly serious delivery and just the way Park Si-yeon fits into that kind of trope.

like @missvictrix, am gonna see where week 3 leads us :)

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Thank you @missvictrix for the beautiful weecap. I love the parallel storyline and the fact that we are slowly unearthing bits and pieces of the past as the present story develops.

I feel the same way, I hoped that the kiss happened later. Jae Hyun is a married man so it kinda bothered me. I’m also bothered about Ji Soo’s parents. What kind of father would treat his own daughter that way? It also seems that her mother did not do anything to affirm her love for her. That said, it’s a beautiful drama.

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The script is actually very beautiful...I found so many conversations in the last 6 episodes very true and moving! Not many first love will be a success and of course less first lovers comeback to each other because life does change! But their story, the background and what made the two separate is not what they wanted. Thus it is believable that they still love each other until now! However, they have to deal with the reality when they've both grown up and have families to be responsible for! This is not a teen drama, this is definitely a drama that only adults who experienced would understand! And completely different from other adult drama stories! This so beautifully and painfully! And last but not least, all actors and actresses have made a great job! My heart flutters and moved every moment they are together! No matter how the drama will go (we have 12 more episodes before the end), but the first 6 have been so memorable to me! And even it stops here, I am totally satisfied on how the stories were told and even the ending is open here for everyone, that is still so fine! PS: Beside mature acting by 2 leads, Jinyoung never fails our expectation. He is specially gifted and is very potential as the best male actor or rookie award or best couple with Jeon So nee, who is also unexpectedly so good in acting!

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This show reminds me of those older Kdramas. The really melancholic ones, where people lingered on every word. The scenery sets the tone. Everything is so quiet--no need for theatrics. And I think my husband is in love with Lee Bo-Young.

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I could not agree more. By toning down the heated conversations or situations, they become more realistic and believable, and even so the antiheroes, and this makes the heroes to go through a more valuable and rewarding growing experience. Who would not be in love with her, she is not only smart and attractive but emotionally intelligent.

The PD stated in a presentation, very enthusiastic about the two principal leads, that this drama could be explained as a combination of both One Fine Spring Day (with Yoo Ji-tae) and My Daughter Seo-young (with Lee Bo-young), not for the story line but for the spirit of the melodrama, the feel of emotions and melancholy. I personally consider My Daughter Seo-young a 50 episode (very difficult to keep the momentum of the interest for a long series) masterpiece; by far the only drama that I could watch as many times as time allows.

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