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It’s Okay to Not Be Okay: Episode 10

This is a bomb of an episode, with feelings exploding everywhere. Our brothers are forced to confront their past, an unspoken secret that’s been eating at them for years, and they have no idea how it will affect their present. And in the midst of all this, they don’t how our fairy tale writer fits into their lives — or if she fits at all.

 
EPISODE 10: “The girl who cried wolf”

Sang-tae has his breakdown in the hospital lounge, announcing to everyone that his brother is trying to kill him. Moon-young looks from him to the sobbing Kang-tae, with what looks like guilt in her eyes. She seems to regret bringing up the King Donkey Ears story to Sang-tae and encouraging him to spill his secrets.

The hospital staff get Sang-tae sedated and leave him to rest in the isolation room. Director Oh and Nurse Park come out to Kang-tae waiting outside, and they urge him to go out and get some fresh air. So Kang-tae walks out, completely numb, with Moon-young following close behind.

After much wandering, Moon-young has to throw her shoe at Kang-tae to make him stop. He tells her to go home, that he needs to be with his brother, and she blurts out that he did nothing wrong that day. He started to run away, but in the end, he jumped into the water and saved Sang-tae.

“I ran away because I really wanted him to die,” Kang-tae says. “He knows that… and so do you.” So what, Moon-young asks, is he going to sacrifice his entire life for Sang-tae, to atone for his sin?

To that, Kang-tae asks why she had to save him that day. “If you hadn’t,” he says, voice shaking, “I wouldn’t have to live this way.” He sheds a tear before turning and walking away, and this time, she stays where she is, silently crying.

Back at the hospital, rumors of the brothers are already spreading. Jung-tae won’t stand to have his hyungnim badmouthed, so he blasts the patients and nearby staff with a fire extinguisher. They definitely don’t feel like gossiping after that.

Nurse Park has a counseling session with Ok-ran, wanting to find the cause to her recent mood changes. But Ok-ran is only curious about the brothers, and she asks if Kang-tae really tried to kill Sang-tae. Nurse Park says that it’s sure to be a misunderstanding, making Ok-ran smile with amusement. Ok-ran brings up a Shakespearean play: “Why do you think Othello killed his wife? Because of a misunderstanding.”

By nightfall, the apartment gang is still unable to reach Kang-tae or Moon-young. Jae-soo and Sang-in argue about who’s to blame for Sang-tae’s outburst, while in the kitchen, Joo-ri’s mom gets more aggressive with her vegetable chopping. The boys finally stop fighting when Mom comes in with her knife and deadpans, “Let’s eat.” As they scramble past, Mom hopes that Kang-tae and Moon-young are taking care of themselves and eating too.

Moon-young is sulking at home, eyeing the flowers that Kang-tae gave her. Meanwhile, Kang-tae is still at the hospital, waiting outside the isolation room. Joo-ri and Cha-yong pass by, and Cha-yong wonders why Kang-tae doesn’t just go inside.

Joo-ri says that those with autism shut the door to the world and that Kang-tae is waiting for Sang-tae to open that door. Unfortunately, even the next day, Sang-tae refuses to come out from under his covers, much less his room. It’s only when Director Oh drags Kang-tae away and the hallway is clear that Sang-tae peeks out.

Upstairs, Director Oh tries to make Kang-tae feel better. He mentions that he and his son used to do three-legged races and that he would often trip and make them lose; he thinks that Kang-tae and Sang-tae are in their own three-legged race. Kang-tae looks up at that and asks if he’s saying that they’re holding each other back.

“No,” Director Oh says. “You’re relying on each other. As long as one person stays strong when the other person falls down, you guys will never fall down together. Try your best to stay strong.” And who knows, Director Oh continues, one day, Sang-tae may be able to stay strong for Kang-tae.

Kang-tae admits that he thought Sang-tae had forgotten about the river incident, and Director Oh points out that those with autism have a good memory. In Sang-tae’s case, he probably tried to avoid his emotions, so Director Oh suggests Kang-tae confront his head-on — starting with returning to work.

In no time, Kang-tae is back in uniform and heading downstairs, where he finds Jung-tae biting Cha-yong. Kang-tae takes Cha-yong away to bandage his wound, and Cha-yong lets it slip that Jung-tae is mad because he blabbed about Kang-tae and Moon-young. Kang-tae mutters that he should’ve stitched up his mouth instead.

Jae-soo stops by the hospital to check on Kang-tae, having been worried sick. Jae-soo starts lecturing Kang-tae that he should’ve listened to him and stayed away from Moon-young, and Kang-tae just sighs.

Kang-tae remembers yesterday, all the times he smiled with Moon-young, and he says that he dreamt an impossible dream when he should’ve been focusing on his brother. Looking out at the water, he sadly states that he’s awake now. Jae-soo looks at him sympathetically, not knowing what to say.

Afterwards, Jae-soo drops off a pizza in Sang-tae’s room and leaves him alone. While Sang-tae is eating under the covers, he hears the door open and close. He gets up and sees that someone has left the book by Do Hui-jae. And tucked inside is a note that reads, “The little brother kills his big brother.”

Later, Moon-young marches into the hospital to see Kang-tae (using the excuse that she’s bringing him clean underwear, ha). He ignores all of her advances, though, and tells her to follow him outside.

Once the couple are out by the water, Moon-young says that things worked out for the best and that it’s about time Kang-tae let go of his brother. She knows that he wants to be with her, to hold her, to have fun with her.

But Kang-tae says that they were ill-fated from the start, that he never should’ve gotten involved with her. So he wants her to do him a favor and stay out of his life. She’s on the verge of tears, but she smiles and says that he’s lying.

Moon-young reminds him of the time he comforted her during her nightmare. She’d told him to get lost, but he saw through her, just like she’s seeing through him now. She takes hold of his hand and tells him not to go.

Kang-tae frees his hand and says that she was nothing but a firecracker to him, a one-time event. Now that he’s had his fun, he’s finished. With that, he starts to walk away, making her burst into tears.

Clutching her heart, she screams, “I’m not a firecracker! I’m a bomb! I don’t disappear when I explode, I blow up and kill everyone!” Even so, he keeps walking, and we see that there’s pain in his eyes, as if every step is hard.

That night, Kang-tae sneaks into the isolation room while Sang-tae is asleep. He sits by his brother’s side and takes his hand in his, bringing it up to his cheek. And as he watches him sleep, tears stream down his face.

The next day, Sang-in insists on driving Joo-ri to work. But his crappy company car dies along the way, and he has to send Joo-ri off in a taxi while he gets the car towed. He accidentally leaves his wallet in the car, though, and chases after the tow truck. Joo-ri looks out her window and, seeing this, she smiles.

At the hospital, Sang-tae gets a surprise visit from Nurse Park — with a giant stuffed dinosaur. Hee, Sang-tae is overjoyed and says that it’s his mini toy dinosaur Dooly’s mom. He tells Nurse Park that the two dinosaurs are actually different species and that the mom found Dooly’s egg and raised him.

Sang-tae doesn’t like anything fake, but he does think that all moms, even the fake ones, are good. Nurse Park asks if he also had a good mom, and he responds with, “She was a good mom to me, but a bad one to Kang-tae.”

Speaking of fake but good moms, Joo-ri’s mom is treating Kang-tae to lunch. She jokes that she hates him for rejecting her daughter but that she should be kind to those she hates. She continues that she’ll take Sang-tae home today, and he thanks her.

Rather than thanks, however, she suggests he be born as her son in his next life. And he’s near tears as he says that he doesn’t want to be born again. She just chides him for being stubborn and urges him to eat. Augh, can she adopt him, please?

At the end of the day, Kang-tae and Joo-ri watch Mom walk out with Sang-tae. Joo-ri encourages Kang-tae to come home today so the brothers can make up, reiterating what they always tell patients: “If you want to make the people around you happy, you must find your own happiness first.”

Joo-ri smiles warmly and concludes that it’s okay for him to be a little selfish sometimes. In that case, Kang-tae wonders if it’s okay to ask her a selfish favor.

We cut to Moon-young at home, texting Kang-tae various excuses to get him back. She sends pictures of Sang-tae’s cartoon tapes, threatening to trash them, and even pictures of a thermometer (after blasting her forehead with a hairdryer), saying she’s sick. But, to her frustration, he ignores every one.

There’s the sound of a car outside, and Moon-young jumps up and opens the door to see — Joo-ri. Apparently, Kang-tae asked Joo-ri to bring some of Sang-tae’s things home. And Joo-ri referring to the apartment building, rather than the mansion, as the boys’ home saddens Moon-young.

After much hesitation, Kang-tae arrives at the apartment and announces that he’s coming in, prompting Sang-tae to hide in the zip-up closet. As is their routine, Kang-tae sits in front of the closet and says that he’s sorry. Sang-tae asks what he’s sorry for, and Kang-tae lets everything out.

Kang-tae breaks down, apologizing for running away at the river, for wishing he had a normal brother — just everything. Kang-tae apologizes over and over, until Sang-tae finally comes out. At first, Sang-tae doesn’t seem to know how to react, but then he brings Kang-tae into an embrace.

Kang-tae clutches onto Sang-tae, crying, and begs, “Don’t abandon me,” while Sang-tae says the same thing. God, they break my heart.

Later into the night, when the brothers are in bed, Sang-tae claims that he’s the hyung here and that Kang-tae belongs to him. Kang-tae agrees to this, but once Sang-tae falls asleep, Kang-tae looks through the pictures he took with Moon-young. Remembering their time on the mountain, he gets a wistful look on his face.

Back at the mansion, Moon-young convinces Joo-ri to stay for some wine. Joo-ri drinks at a concerning rate, and an amused Moon-young asks if she’s still afraid of her. Though Joo-ri is, she also says that she’s jealous of her. One bottle of wine later and Joo-ri is slurring that Moon-young is a bitch, even slapping her upside the head.

Joo-ri passes out, and Sang-in has to come by to pick her up. Moon-young can tell that Sang-in likes Joo-ri, so she asks who he likes more, her or Joo-ri. He starts to say that he likes them both, but she wants to know who comes first and second.

“Moon-young,” Sang-in says, “When you’re talking about people, you should never number them like that. You can cherish and care about people in different ways.” For instance, he says, there are many different shades of yellow, just as there are many different shades of emotions.

Sang-in guesses that Moon-young must be lonely without Kang-tae. Moon-young says that she is a little colder at night, a little hungrier than usual. And Sang-in smiles, saying those emotions point to one thing — she misses Kang-tae. She repeats the words “I miss him,” and the more she says it, the more she realizes it’s true.

The following day, Joo-ri rides the bus with Kang-tae to work. She’s taken aback, however, when he starts speaking to her in banmal. She suddenly remembers last night, when Sang-in dropped her off at the apartment and they bumped into Kang-tae outside. She lashed out at him for sending her over to Moon-young’s, most likely to make sure Moon-young was okay, and for always addressing her formally. Heh.

Once at the hospital, Kang-tae isn’t feeling so good, but he pushes through. Nurse Park tells him to keep an eye on Ok-ran, saying she’s been unstable, so he heads out to the garden to find her. There, Dae-hwan starts hearing the humming again and sets his sights on the source — Ok-ran. Dae-hwan approaches Ok-ran and asks if it’s her, and she leans in to whisper, “Why? Are you going to kill me again?”

OH SHIT.

Dae-hwan lunges at Ok-ran and begins choking her, and Ok-ran immediately shifts into the helpless victim, crying for help. Kang-tae rushes over to pull Dae-hwan off her, while he’s screaming that he has to kill her. Some other staff help Ok-ran up and guide her away, and she gives one last glance back… and smiles.

Dae-hwan is now screaming that all monsters, like his wife and daughter, must be killed, making Kang-tae shout over him: “No. Your daughter is not a monster.” Exhausted, Dae-hwan stops struggling and gasps that if Kang-tae doesn’t kill her, he’s going to die instead.

Later, inside, Ok-ran is questioned by Nurse Park and, of course, lies that Dae-hwan attacked her for no reason. And upstairs, in the office, Director Oh and Kang-tae try to figure out what happened, thinking that Dae-hwan mistook Ok-ran for his wife. Or, Director Oh, speculates, Ok-ran is his wife.

That night, Joo-ri’s mom comes home to find Moon-young on the steps. Moon-young explains that Mom gave her an open invitation to dinner, so Mom happily brings her in and whips up some seaweed soup. Since Moon-young asked for the soup (a Korean birthday tradition), Mom correctly guesses that it’s her birthday.

At first, Moon-young acts like the food is just fine, but then she stuffs her face, making Mom smile. Sang-in walks in moments later and he’s upset to see Moon-young eating here when he offered to buy her steak. He at least wants her to accept the gift he bought her, a necklace of two hearts put together.

Since Moon-young’s here, she has to go upstairs and knock on Sang-tae’s door. He refuses to open it, but when he hears the sound of a power saw, he panics and rushes out — to see that she was playing sound effects on her phone, lol.

Moon-young takes the doll Mang-tae out of her purse and says that Sang-tae can have it, so long as she can have him.

Moon-young continues that it’s her birthday and she wants to spend it with him, but he throws the doll to the ground and calls her a liar. With that, Sang-tae heads back inside and throws a crumpled up piece of paper out the window.

Moon-young picks up the paper and leans against the wall. Knowing Sang-tae is on the other side listening, she says that those who don’t believe in what people say are the bad ones. To make a point, she tells him the story of The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

“The shepherd boy lied all the time. The boy repeatedly lied to the villagers that a real wolf showed up. Do you know why the boy tricked the villagers like that? He did that because he was so lonely, all by himself in the mountains.”

And at the hospital, we see Kang-tae looking through Moon-young’s messages, dismissing them.

Moon-young returns home, placing her now withered flower bouquet into a vase of water. She then uncrumples the paper Sang-tae threw out and reveals the drawing of her and the brothers riding in the camping car.

Kang-tae is about to clock out, when he sees Nurse Sun tending to Cha-yong’s wounds. Cha-yong explains that he took Ok-ran out to the garden and that she hit him with a rock and escaped. Before that, she mentioned that she has to meet someone because it’s an important day. Kang-tae recalls the last message Moon-young sent, about today being an important day, and suddenly all the pieces start fitting together. Without a second thought, he turns and runs out of the hospital.

Moon-young’s story narration concludes that when a wolf actually appeared, no one believed the boy. And because no one came to help, the boy died. We see Kang-tae racing towards the mansion, but it’s too late. There’s a knock on the mansion door and Moon-young opens it to Ok-ran popping a party popper. All it takes is a “Happy Birthday” and a sinister smile to make Moon-young’s blood run cold.

 
COMMENTS

Holy biscuits on a fire. I know the drama was hinting that the mom was alive and that Ok-ran was Mom… but I thought that was going to be a red herring! I thought Ok-ran was just a random patient who liked provoking people! Now I have about a million questions, like What the hell happened in that mansion? What made Go Dae-hwan kill Do Hui-jae? When he says that she killed someone, could that someone be Kang-tae’s mom? What has she been doing all this time? Where has she been all this time? And the big question, what does she plan to do with Moon-young now? I just don’t know what to think anymore. One thing that comes to mind — this hospital completely fails when it comes to keeping their patients in. If I’m remembering correctly, this is the third person who’s escaped. I get that they have a sort of “open door,” “wander free” policy, but this is ridiculous.

Before I get too heated (I’m really just worried for Moon-young’s safety here), let’s move on to the meat of the episode. The angst was really turned up to an eleven, and it worked so well. Sang-tae’s breakdown brought out all of Kang-tae’s guilt and regret and self-loathing, and right after Kang-tae let his guard down too. So I understand why he believes that he was dreaming an impossible dream and that this was his wakeup call. He doesn’t think he’s deserving of a happy life with Moon-young, with anyone, when he did such a terrible thing in his past. In fact, he doesn’t think he’s deserving of living at all, and that is downright crushing. Our poor, sweet Kang-tae is so, so wrong in saying that he has to give up love and happiness to focus on family. Permanently, at least. Because he did need to focus on Sang-tae now, more than ever, to finally face his inner demons.

In the same way that Moon-young’s haircut was healing for her, I think Kang-tae’s hug and reconciliation with Sang-tae was healing for him. I was surprised that he came into the apartment and apologized for the river incident right away; we all know that had to take a lot of courage. The apology that hurt the most, for me, was for wishing for a normal brother. It just goes to show that Kang-tae isn’t some perfect angel. He’s a flawed human being with real thoughts and feelings, and sometimes those thoughts can be a little dark. He’ll have moments where his wishes Sang-tae was normal, but he’s going to feel bad about it, and that’s what makes him a good person. He’s going to feel bad because he loves Sang-tae, mental disorder and all. With this reconciliation, perhaps they can find some way to run in this three-legged race in unison and stay strong for each other.

And who knows, maybe Moon-young could join the brothers in that race. I loved her in this episode, because no matter how much Kang-tae’s words hurt her, she still made an effort to get him back. When she does get him back, she’s going to get Sang-tae too. So I hope that she sees that adding Sang-tae into her life isn’t extra baggage but an extra gift. Having three people in a three(four?)-legged race could end in disaster, but with everyone putting in the effort, they’re sure to reach that finish line.

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After Episode 6, Kang-tae has now told Moon-young twice she should've just left him to die at the river that day. Along with his telling Joo-ri's mom he doesn't want to be born again, this boy has all the signs of depression. I love Moon-young for reassuring him, "It's not your fault. You're innocent." Of course Kang-tae doesn't believe her, but he needs to hear it. Just like Sang-tae needed to get his secret off his chest, Kang-tae needed to beg for forgiveness. "Hyung, don't abandon me." Kang-tae's soul-baring apologies to his brother was a weight off his shoulders. Moon-young did a good thing after all by telling Oppa the story King Donkey Ears. The reveal that Hyung knew Mom was a bad mom to Kang-tae gave me goosebumps. I was terrified Sang-tae would stop liking Moon-young once he found out she and Kang-tae were dating and throw out all her books, so I was relieved he still considers her his best friend and is angry at his bestie for keeping a secret from him. I predict butterfly catcher Moon-young will be the person to cure Sang-tae's butterflies nightmares.

"I like you both, in different ways." THANK YOU, SANG-IN. Sang-in needs to teach his housemates that you can like two people at the same time. All of them need to stop asking their "Who do you like more?" questions. Sang-in is the best for defending Moon-young against Jae-soo, "You can't clap with one hand. He went with her because he wanted to." If Hyung and Jae-soo love Kang-tae, then they should want him to be with Moon-young because she makes him happy when he's never been happy. Jae-soo can say he wants him to be with someone less dysfunctional, but Kang-tae doesn't like anyone else. Like Moon-young said, you don't need a reason to like something (someone) -- you just do.

I loved Joo-ri this episode. When she comforted Kang-tae to focus on his happiness and it's okay to be selfish, I jumped to the conclusion that she was referring to Moon-young, but from her drunken rant "You were worried she'd be lonely all by herself," Joo-ri still hasn't moved on. In his defense, Kang-tae didn't do it only for Moon-young, but for Joo-ri's sake too to make up the two friends. Kang-tae and Joo-ri are a lot alike in that they both liked Moon-young first and followed her around, then ran away as soon as Moon-young scared them. Unlike Kang-tae whom she scared on purpose to save her prince from her mom, Moon-young only wanted to be friends with Joo-ri. I wish we saw young Joo-ri's perspective that despite being friends with the other kids, her best friend would always be Moon-young. I'm happy for Joo-ri now that she and Kang-tae have lowered their speech since the three of them are the same age anyway. Although Joo-ri couldn't help speaking jondaemal to him on the bus and at work, but Kang-tae speaks banmal to her at least.

I seriously hope Moon-young's mom is dead. I don't want Park Ok-ran (or Head Nurse Park, for that matter) to be Mom. Even if she...

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Even if she had multiple plastic surgeries, Moon-young and her dad should still have been able to feel Mom's presence at the hospital without Park Ok-ran humming Clementine. However, above all else, please don't make Moon-young's mom be the person who killed the Moon brothers' mom! If Mom were the killer, how will our couple ever be together!?

Thanks a million for the recap, @SailorJumun!

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I'm not buying the multiple plastic surgeries either.

We haven't seen the real Do Hui-jae yet (dead or alive), played by actress Woo Jung-won.
Park Ok-ran is played by actress Kang Ji-eun. Park's character is said to be a musical actress or something like that, so of course she knows how to act and sing.
She wants attention and she is not getting it unless she creates a drama like the night she was humming Clementine and drove Moon-young's father to have a seizure in the middle of the night.

Obviously she is an obsessed fan from the way she keeps reading Do Hui-jae's last book and not letting anyone else read it.
It's not hard to find information on a celebrity these days and she gets into places in the hospital that shouldn't be at.

Moon-young's mother was obsessed with her. I don't think she would sit by her in her class and be calm.

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My thoughts exactly. I've always thought of Park Ok-ran as an obsessed fan and that's why she's doing all those things. Also, based on how Moon-young's mom has been portrayed so far, I really don't think she'd stay that long in the hospital and wait for a good moment to reveal herself.

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If she is an actress... It is possible that she got so immeresed in her role as 'do hui jae' that she checked into the hospital believing herself to be taking revenge.. Liks she thinks she is the author..and wants revenge on the guy who 'killed' her... Just a guess though... That would make her delusional and dangerous..

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please oh please I hope your theory is right. I don't want Park Ok-ran to be Moon-young's mother. :-(

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You may be on to something about the unsolved murder of the brothers' mom. The show has been dropping hints that Park Ok-ran is Moon-young's mom and that she could be the murderer. After all Moon-young's father did say he had to kill Do Hui-jae because she had killed somebody. The only witness to the mom's murder was Sang-tae who claimed the butterfly did it.

In one episode, Sang-tae was talking pictures outside OK Psychiatric Hospital and Park Ok-ran asked if he could take a picture of her. At that moment a butterfly landed near Sang-tae's hand and he freaked out. Notice Park Ok-ran is always seen wearing this flowery robe and we keep seeing flashbacks of the young Moon-young tearing off the wings from butterflies. Is her mom the butterfly?

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Yes, Sang-in's wisdom was excellent here. He seems to be becoming our sage in this drama - saving a lot of people from going off the rails!

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We all would be lucky to have a friend as Sang In in our lives.

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sang in and jaesu. can't believe they got into a shouting match for their besties lol

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Not only a shouting match, they were about to throw hands until Mom walked in with a knife.

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Yeah, I'd also prefer MY's mom to be dead instead of Ok-ran having gone through a series of surgeries... sigh. But we shall see.

I like Joo-ri a LOT as a character bc she seems so realistic. She is sweet, kind and caring but also envious, bitter and petty. She feels WHOLE; like a human being. This isn't at all very common when it comes to female characters and it's especially rare in relation to second female leads. I really love his she is written.

I was actually pretty annoyed with ST in this episode, too. Because ST ALSO left his brother to die and HE did not come back. Had it not been for MY, KT would, in fact, be dead. However, I of course do understand where ST is coming from and so I do not blame him, not for his actions as a kid nor his feelings as an adult. Not only is his memory mangled but due to his autism he simply isn't able to process things as neurotypical people are and it isn't his fault.

That's the beauty of this drama, I feel. You can get frustrated, angry and annoyed by the characters and yet you can see where they're coming from and why they feel like they do and act like they do.

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I kept thinking that as well.
"Sang-tae - you ran away from your brother and left him to die!!!"
But I also want someone to tell Kang-tae - remember you were a child when you said those things....
Children don't always understand the vast importance of what they say - and they can grow up.

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This is far fetched but what if Sang-tae left to go and get mom?

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I love your theory. Please let this be true that Sang-tae left to go get help and never abandoned his little brother.

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Yes, I also think Kang-tae is showing signs of depression and that worries me. I hope he'd seek help too.

I really appreciate that Sang-in was serious at that important moment. And he's absolutely right. I've considered the "Who do you love more?" question as a joke between the three friends. Now it's getting serious... not surprisingly, of course. I'm glad Sang-in was there for Moon-young and now it feels that the brothers are learning the same. I just love seeing these characters grow.

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if he was my friend in real life, i would do a suicide intervention. his repeated wish to not be alive broke my heart. his acting is on point its crazy.

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Oh god. This episode broke me. I VERY rarely cry when watching drama (or anything, really) but during this episode I cried BOTH for Kang-tae and Mun-young. And that's saying a lot because Kang-tae also really frustrated me in this episode but the beauty of that is that I could totally see why he's acting like he is and where he's coming from and so I was able to sympathise even when I was thinking he's dead wrong.

But oh boy. He took all the wrong lessons here... I do think KT and ST are holding each other back and not only because of that one incident but due to their whole upbringing. KT does not allow himself to have a life at all outside ST, which is not only bad for himself but also for ST. And when things got hard, KT immediately doubled down on his "nothing else but ST" when the lesson should have been the exact opposite. Change is always painful but you never achieve anything if you do not go through that pain.

And honestly, KT blaming MY was so hard to watch. Because the fact that his life is miserable IS HIS OWN FAULT AT THIS POINT. It's not HER fault. It is true that it was KT's mom who build the cage but right now KT is sitting inside it and absolutely refusing to come out. That is on him, not on his mom and especially not on MY. I do understand why he sticks to his cage so adamantly even though it makes him miserable at the same time but it is nevertheless his own choice. No one else can make him free but himself.

And honestly, at this point, I'd like to see KT do some chasing for a change. MY has been chasing him throughout the drama and it has been necessary bc it's certain that this man would never initiate anything with a woman on his own volition. But he really hurt MY and even STILL it is MY who sticks to him. At this point I almost feel like he doesn't deserve her.

(She did sound selfish right after the ST/KT fallout but that's probably the only way she's able to articulate her sympathy.)

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i agree. i know he was trying to shake her off, but he said some VERY hurtful things. it's like he knew exactly what would cut her deep and did not hold back. i feel for him but i really want to see him fighting for her bc at this point things are very imbalanced and honestly, unfair to moon young.

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KT was very harsh to MY but to be fair he probably knew he needed to be for it to have any impact on MY. Not only was he trying to cut her off I think he was also trying to cut himself off from his lingering hopes and attachments. I felt so bad for the both of them tbh, KT rejecting MY was like rejecting his own happiness. But yes I would love to see KT chase after MY for a change, too.

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GT is such a flawed character but I love him.
When he told Juri’s mom that he didn’t want to born again... I so got him!
It is so easy for us to see what all is wrong in his life because we are observers but if I were him I would find it so difficult to change things. GT has done the best he can and without guidance... I am in awe of how he was able to keep himself from blaming his brother after that police station scene when he couldn’t tell the police what happened to their mom. I am in awe of how he did as good a job as he did of growing up and looking after his bro and keeping it together as much as he could without becoming a criminal/or something worse.
See what I have of him, even I wonder how would he handle MY beyond the romantic period... it would be an interesting (and difficult) life for sure.

But I do want to see him chase MY :D
Actually the story has to spend some episodes focusing on MY and her growth, maybe the best is left for the end?

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I look at KT as someone who has been "indoctrinated" or "brainwashed" by his mom at an early age to always take care of ST. His mom even said that KT was born so that he could take care of ST. Being indoctrinated at such a young age, it must have been, in KT's point of view, the only way to live: being ST's caregiver and always being there for ST. Just like it is difficult to blame MY for how she behaves because she has been also "indoctrinated" by her mom from a young age. MY was able, to a limited extent, "free" herself from her mom by cutting her hair just as KT has been able to "free" himself momentarily from his own mom's brainwashing to just take a day for himself to be happy, but look where it got him. It had devastating, albeit, cathartic, consequences from both him and ST. Just as it took time to "indoctrinate" KT, it will take time (hopefully hastened by MY) to free himself of his perceived ONLY role in life as caregiver of ST. KT's lashing out at MY and blaming her, is like a knee-jerk reaction and hopefully, clarity of mind will come soon!

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Thank you Sailorjumun.
I often return to DB only to read your review. I was waiting yesterday, but it did not come.

The last time I commented here was in 2013 for THE KING 2 HEARTS.

IOTNBO makes me return here.

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I really like King 2 Hearts! Welcome back :)

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Thanks so much for the recap @sailorjumun. Another cracking episode!

One thing I really liked in this episode was the acknowledgement that relationships – unhealthy ones too – are complicated. You don’t just meet someone, spend a day with them and ride off into the sunset for your happily-ever-after. 20 years of entrapment in a difficult relationship don’t just go away – they still have extraordinary power over you. It was excruciating to watch KT go backwards (“I should have known my place”) after beginning to acknowledge that what he wants matters, but it felt real. Life is messy, things don’t get sorted instantaneously, there is a lot of going in all directions before going forward.

His question to MY about why she saved him just so that he would go on to live such a miserable life was heart breaking. I was impressed: this could have gone down the road of feeling like KT was having a pity party, but, thankfully, our man KSH never fails: he steered it deftly into genuine despair rather than a self-indulgent sulk.

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When KT told MY she should've let him die in the ice pond that day and that one tear that fell out of his eye when he turned away had me crying more than the break down at the hospital.

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Yes, that was exceptional timing! He was almost holding it together in front of her, but he was betrayed by his tears at the last moment. Powerful. (Did they just get lucky that KSH let a tear drop at that exact moment, do you reckon?)

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I heard Korean actors are trained and especially good at controlling when the tears drop, but I hope the director wasn't that demanding to dictate when and how the tears fall. I'm more inclined to think KSH was so immersed in the character that the tear drop just came out naturally the way it did.

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watching kang tae in this episode was very difficult. he was in such a bad place, suffering from the whiplash of it all on top of the obvious heartbreak. the things he said made me feel his pain viscerally, everything from asking moon young 'why did you save me that day', to 'i dared to dream an impossible dream', and the biggest stinger, 'i don't want to be born again'. i just want to swoop him up, wrap him in a warm blanket, and tell him everything is going to be okay, that he doesn't need to hate himself to prove his love for his brother, that he is, in fact, holding sang tae back just as much by putting the chains back on himself.

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But he asked the director: do you think I am holding him back?
I kept wondering what did that mean!

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“Don’t abandon me,”
😭😭😭

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The Girl Who Cried Thief: Moon-young's untranslated messages

배고파! 3일이나 굶었어! 빨리 와 밥해줘!
I'm hungry! I've starved for 3 days! Come quickly and cook me some food!

집에 도둑이 들었나봐! 빨리 좀 와줘!
I think I heard a thief in the house! Hurry up and come home!

오늘 엄청 중요한 날이야. 와서 미역국만 해주고 가!
Today is a very important day to me. Just come make me seaweed soup and go!

Earlier

장난해?? Are you joking??
안올거냐구! You're not coming home!
너 안오면 큰일나 You'll be in big trouble if you don't come home
아주 큰일난다?? Very big trouble??

When Ah-reum first put the idea of love in the Beast's head, I was worried Moon-young would become The Girl Who Cried Wolf because she had flippantly told Kang-tae "I love you" over and over the day she offered to run away with him, so now would he believe her "I love you's" is crying wolf? However, because Kang-tae knows her inside out, I have no doubt he will know Moon-young truly loves him just like he knew she never pretended not to know him but wanted him to recognize her. It's sweet how Kang-tae read Moon-young's messages right away and her anticipation every time the little yellow "1's" disappeared. I wish she would save Kang-tae's name in her phone as "Safety Pin." When Byul peeked into Moon-young's bag, I had hoped she put something in there instead of his underwear that would make Kang-tae miss her like their photos on his phone. I know he's coming to save Moon-young from Mom(?) Park Ok-ran, but selfishly, I'm giddy Kang-tae will be at the castle with a fever, so Moon-young can nurse his fever like he cared for her. I can't wait for him to ask her about her hair dryer fever.

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Thank you for the translations!

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Thanks for this!!

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I really, really need to learn Korean. Or I can just read the recaps and comments. :) Thank you!

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"Poor, unfortunate souls..." this was really what came to mind as I was watching this episode. I could feel the pain of each of our leads. I wanted to comfort Kang-tae when he was regretting having dreamed the impossible. I wanted to tell him, "Nooo, please don't say that.." because it just hurts watching him struggle.

But at the same time, I hope he wasn't that hard on Moon-young because the lady's in pain herself. Kang-tae chose to do what he did, and it feels bad that Moon-young is suddenly being treated that way. Still, I'm glad that Moon-young is who she is. She’s looking past Kang-tae’s words and is continuously reaching out to him. I also love that she reached out to Sang-tae and made him understand where she’s coming from. Despite, or maybe because of, her supposed condition, Moon-young seems to be the only one treating Sang-tae the way he wants to be treated – as an adult capable of understanding things.

The brothers’ reconciliation was painful but rewarding to watch. I was worried that their misunderstanding would last more than an episode but I’m glad it didn’t. I love that Kang-tae has been completely honest. I think that’s what both of them really needed. And that hug… <3 This experience definitely made both of them grow, and I’m excited to see more of them with that stronger brotherly bond.

Also, I'm really liking Joo-ri now, with her having that conversation with Kang-tae and her making up with Moon-young. I love it when dramas give us three dimensional characters. Even Sang-in had a serious conversation with Moon-young, somehow showing us why their relationship lasted that long. Seung-jae’s still adorable and Jae-soo is so cute whenever he’s defending her from Sang-in hehe.

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I second everything!

"I hope he wasn't that hard on Moon-young because the lady's in pain herself." And the way she stood there and just absorbed hit after hit from him without wavering, and still kept reaching out (calling him out on him lying, the "don't go," the texts) - if those two are in their own 3-legged race, she's the one standing for sure.

And I agree that MY has consistently been one of the only people who treats ST the way he sees himself, though I think JR's mom does this better than others, too.

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I agree with the earlier comments that KT is borderline depressed. My heart really went out for him when he told Joori's mom, who wanted him to be her son in her next life, that he didn't want to be born again. Argh. I think he was pretty hard on MY because he thinks, given how *miserable* his life is, that he does not deserve her. She is the very representation of what he thinks he doesn't deserve to have, which are respite, happiness, and love.

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So aptly put. KT clearly has no desire to live. He has said twice to MY that why did you save me to lead this life? And at the beach in episode 10, he said he is already having a hard life coping with his brother, he had earlier said to MY that he has no time to play, and if I recall correctly, he has also asked JS to stop him from day dreaming about happy possibilities and that he smiles like that because life is unbearably hard for him. Basically he is just plodding along and has no real will to live. Which to me is an alarm bell for depression/, suicidal thoughts. I can feel his suffocation with his life where it seems to him that he can't get out of his burdensome life unless death comes and he doesn't want to be reborn because life has been unkind to him. In one of the earlier episodes, JS told JR that KT must be trying to kill himself with overwork when she asked where the latter was.

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Yes, I agree. As much as I wish Kang-tae treated Moon-young differently, I see where he's coming from. He's really in a bad place and sometimes the tendency is to push people away =((

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I guess for KT it’s easy for him to forget that despite ST’s condition he is still an adult, because KT has been carrying the responsibility of providing for both of them for so long. But ST obviously has a strong desire to play his part as hyung, from the way he’s working to make money (for the camper) and repeatedly saying “i’ll take care of you, i’m the hyung”. ST wants to be seen as an independent, reliable adult and KT needs to learn how to let go and trust hyung for this.

I have a relative who’s on the autism spectrum and he once told me that he wished to travel alone..when i looked surprised, he said “why not? I’m an adult too” that’s when I realised that sometimes our wish protect them from harm may stop us from letting them reach their full potential.

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At the same time, I think it makes sense that Kang-tae is being overprotective when it comes to Sang-tae. He is very much capable but vulnerable to abuse etc.
Just like that incident at Moon-young's book signing event.
That man and his wife could have been more understanding but the father was violent towards him.

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You're absolutely right.

Thanks for sharing that story. I like that this drama presents its characters as actual human beings, and not just stereotypes of their mental conditions. It gives the audience a chance to be aware and to understand them, and I appreciate that.

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I almost didn’t look at the screen during the beginning of the episode. That’s how hard that scene hit me. I don’t think I can rewatch it in a long time or ever.

I totally get why KT is pushing MY away. I do. The guilt is right now overtaking everything else. He feels guilty about the past, about lying to ST about so many things, about wanting to scape, about loving MY. I get you, KT. His guilt is so immense that he wants to be dead. The moment he told MY “If I had died that day, I wouldn’t have to be living this way” was too heartbreaking and hurtful. His whole body was in pain. And then, al the time he waited for ST to open up and let him get close again. So very painful. And then, the reconciliation scene, agin pain all around, but it was such a nice change to see ST acting as the hyung and comforting KT. I really believe KT has to learn to let go ST, not abandoning him but learning he’s an adult (a special adult who loves dinosaurs, of course, but an adult) and letting him be the hyung.

I loved Jung Tae standing for KT and teaching a lesson to the other patients and also to the gossiping staff to the hospital, and then biting Cha Yong (he deserves it!!!). Also that Dr. Oh blackmailed AhReum ex-husband (he’s pretty good at blackmailing). I still think he and Nurse Park are plotting something together, because I refuse to see her as a baddie. I know she looks suspicious, but she was also the one to told the gossiping staff they should never gossip, because there are consequences.

How awesome friends are Jae Su and SangIn? They are both there for their friends. Everyone should have a friend like them in life. The kind of friend that would help you hide a corpse, no questions asked. I really loved the relation both of them have with KT and MY. It’s also so sweet the way JooRi is warming up to Sang In. I said in ep. 9 recap that I really love them together because you can see they are good, sweet and warm persons. They really would make a lovely couple.

I also wrote in my wall about this crazy idea that came up to mind the minute Nurse Park and ST had that conversation about Dooly and fake mums. The idea that ST may not be KT’s brother but MY. That KT’s mum found the egg and raised him as his own son. Would it explain that she was murdered? Maybe by MY’s mum?

Finally, Kim Min Kyung being the best mum ever and bringing tears to my eyes by telling KT that she would love to be his mum in another life. Don’t we all want her as our mum in our next life? MY wishes she were, for sure. How nice was that scene in which she cooked for MY on her birthday?

I don’t think OkRan is MY’s mum. I keep repeating I have Martin Guerre / Sommerbsy vibes on her. Let’s see if I’m right.

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That is an interesting theory about the mom and raising an egg that she found. I had initially interpreted that as Nurse Park's way of gently opening ST up to the idea that there is more than one way that a family can come together (e.g., JS is basically their brother, KMK is fast becoming a mother to them, MY a sister, etc.), but a more literal idea of adoption never crossed my mind!

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I also felt like the egg adoption exchange might be meaningful but when I shuffled kids and moms around I just ended up with incestuous love-lines 🙈

I figured that ST couldn't be the adopted child because his mom struggled so hard with him and I just didn't believe she would take that - please excuse the harsh word - burden of raising him...

But then... if she had found him as a baby she wouldn't have known he had special needs and once it became apparent she probably was too emotionally attached.

Her comment to KT about why she gave birth to him would also appear in a different light in this context. Maybe the parents couldn't have children, adopted ST and then had a bit of a miracle child with KT - so their mom might have viewed that as a blessing to help with ST.

As for why ST was abandoned in the first place, maybe MY's mom really just wanted a daughter to model after herself so she didn't care for a baby boy? 🤔

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mom would've known too that the kid was on the spectrum. given how she called moon young her "greatest creation", i won't be surprised if she actually did discard him bc he was less than perfect in her eyes. that would be so unbelievably heartbreaking for kang tae's mom though. imagine taking in a child that's not yours, giving him your all, and someone comes along and kills you for it.

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Because no words or tale goes by for nothing in this drama, the moms guess might just ends up being right.

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Kim Mi Kyung is the best drama mom, isn't she? I know I shouldn't mention this drama here but Kim Mi Kyung feeding SYJ as KMY made me remember her scene with Kim Woo Bin as Choi Young Do in The Heirs when she prepared him a home cooked meal. (Young Do always ate out, grew up in an abusive household, and doesn't have a mother figure so that scene was extremely touching.) It was also the scene where he tells her that she likes her daughter. I still replay that scene from time to time as KWB really made me cry there. 😅

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She is the best mum! I can still feel her whacking Oh Hae Young in Another
Miss Oh and lord the tearsss in Hi Bye Mama..

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And let's not talk about Go Back Couple...
I felt she was my mum there.

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I love Kim Mi Kyung in the movie "Healer"

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She is marvelous - but I keep seeing her as the back-end hacker from Healer who is always knitting!
That was my first introduction to her and she was so cool!

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Mine, too! I loved her in Healer!

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Hacker Ahjummah was her greatest role imo
She was perfect in it!

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i've seen a lot of speculation about sang tae recounting dooly's birth secret alluding to a possible blood connection between our leads. i think it could have been used as a precursor to establish the idea of found family, so sang tae can see that moon young may not be related to them by blood, but she can still be a part of their little world. i could be wrong, and as long as moon young and kang tae are not long lost siblings, i'm fine with however they decide to unravel this.

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Your crazy idea could be the key to solving our murder mystery.
It would mean that there was contacts with Moon-young’s mother who is the murder suspect.

But why was she killed? Was it over Moon-young and Kang-tae’s relationship? Instead of killing the prince the wicked witch from the west killed his mother?

Even if Sang-tae is not adopted I’d still ask those questions.

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Thank you for the recaps! True to MY's words, bad memories stay in the heart longer. When push came to shove, ST overlooked everything KT has done for him momentarily. In that moment, he overlooked the fact that KT risked his life to save him from drowning instead he chose to remember only the painful part. Our memories can be selective and deceiving.

When faced with being lied to and possible abandonment from KT, ST must have felt betrayed by both his brother and his new best buddy. His sketch of the 3 of them showed that he could have warmed up to the idea if only it was approached with more care. I think KT needs to learn to change the dynamics with his hyung otherwise they're just going to be stuck in a rut. He can't just keep repressing his own emotions to pacify ST and he should really start being more honest with him.

KT's hurtful words and his thoughts of abandoning ST left a deep wound, and ST's been harbouring a grudge all these years. Just like how KT remembered his mother's words that she gave birth to him for the sole purpose of looking after ST. Not that his mother didn't love or care for him but after all those years the wound caused by those hurtful words is still there.

KT shaking folded hands asking for forgiveness was so painful to watch. The guilt he's been carrying with him all these years is like a leash, knotted tightly over him. So while it was painful to reopen an old wound it was necessary so that it can be addressed properly. ST had the chance to let his feelings out and KT had the opportunity to apologise. We also got to see MY's growth emotionally through her reaction to the scene and the aftermath.

We just got a few glimpses of genuinely happy and open KT and now we're back to "joker smile" KT. I think he might even be worse than he was before, he literally looked like he's dead on the inside and barely holding himself together. My heart broke when KT said he didn't want to be reborn 😭. For their own happiness, I really hope the brothers will come to realise sooner rather than later that they can each be their own person and that does not mean they're abandoning the other person.

ST is more perceptive than he lets on. He was able to see for himself and he acknowledged that their mother was a good mum to him but not to KT. So I hope he will also come to understand the pains and difficulties KT has been enduring up until now. With understanding hopefully gradually he'll be able to accept that KT deserves to have his own happiness too. Because I don't think KT will allow himself to even habour a thought of pursuing his personal happiness without ST's acceptance and encouragement. MY is sharp so she'll be able to pick up from ST's sketch the fact that ST too, just wants to be included, accepted and to belong. He just needs reassurance that having MY come into their life doesn't mean losing KT, rather he's gaining a friend and companion in her. Like ST, I was just getting...

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Like ST, I was just getting excited about their friendship. It'll be complete for the 3 of them to build a home together, a place of emotional comfort and belongingness, once they're able to overcome their emotional hurdles.

I love Juri's mum! Thank goodness we have at least one mother figure that just genuinely embodies love, care and warmth. It was also nice to see that Sang-in can see through MY's defence and does genuinely care for her. Even though the way he does it may not always be good for her development.

Lastly, is it just me or episode 10 kept hinting at fake mum? Could MY possibly not be her mother's biological daughter? The writer is really leaving us hanging right till the end for MY's backstory isn't she. Can't wait for next week!

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oh kang tae is most definitely worse than he was before. i don't think he felt much of anything before, bc he'd become so adept at suppressing his emotions. he took that lid off and got a taste of all the wonderful things life could be. and even though he has had to put it back on now, knowing the possibility of what could've been lingers and makes him even more of a shell of a person than he used to be.

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When Sang-tae asked Kang-tae what he was sorry for, I nervously thought he was going to say sorry for going out with Mun-young. I’m so glad he didn’t because he should not feel sorry for that at all! Still, it was heartbreaking to see KT begging forgiveness for wishing ST dead (in a moment of a child’s weakness) but for also for wishing for a normal brother. God must that be something that has been a thorn between them, even without that wish for ST to be dead.

Initially I didn’t quite get why KT feels ST is such a burden to the point where he has no room for any other deep relationship in his life. ST may be autistic but he is capable of fending for himself: he feeds, cares & clothes himself, navigates public transport by himself and even holds down a job. But I remember a point in my life where my youngest sister and I went out for groceries together. I had been living away for several years and I had just come back to live at home. When we got home, I picked out the heavier items to carry, even though I was feeling a bit unwell, because I thought my poor baby sister wasn’t strong enough to manage. Then it hit me that my sister was well into her 20s, is much talker than me and definitely much stronger since she works out regularly. And my sister is perfectly healthy and ‘normal’ but it just shows that even well into her adulthood, I couldn’t easily shake off the instinct of looking out for my (no longer) baby sister.

So imagine how it is for KT who has had it drilled into him all his life that HE must always be on alert and look after his brother, and has constant reminders that ST can’t entirely cope with conventional society (e.g. 1st episode where ST gets kicked out of school). Plus the fact KT is walking on eggshells around ST’s feelings, always trying to avoid upsetting ST or anything leading ST into his meltdown. No wonder he couldn’t stop himself from omitting the truth and lying to ST about where he was when he was on a date with Mun-young.

I also adore the fact that when MY came to see ST, she offered Mang-tae and asked for Sang-tae back, when I thought she would be more self-centred and ask for Kang-tae. If she was truly selfish & jealously possessive of KT I would think she would have ask for KT. Instead she acted to repair things between her and ST and apologized on her behalf.

Soeaking of possessive, I was pleased to see how protective KT felt about MY, when MY’s father railed about killing all monsters including MY and how adamant KT was that his daugher is not a monster. You could see his heart break for her, for having a father harbouring such thoughts.

One last thing: even though she is long dead, I feel so sorry for the memory of KT and ST’s mother. When Nurse Park asked ST about whether his mum was a good mom, he remembers that she was a good mum to him but not to KT. Poor woman. Mothers always get blamed for whatever they do. I can’t imagine how much she struggled in life, losing her husband at a...

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young age, having to bring up two children on her own, one with neurodevelopmental problems. Society still expects mothers to be superhuman, to subsume their life for their children, when the same is not expected of a father. And everything that is wrong in an adult’s life is always traced back to their mother - how their mother treated them, raised them etc etc

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Agreed. I know a Malay proverb saying that " Children are like white canvas. We (parents) are the one who will paint them, whether it will be still white, colorful or dark".

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Your point about mothers, YES! There is a saying that parents are indebted to their children in their past life which is why they are responsible of taking care of you this life. Let us appreciate our parents more and understand that no one is perfect and it is okay to not be the best parents in the world because they are already the best parents we can have:')

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at first, i thought moon young was walking a dangerous fine line between using sang tae and actually regarding him as a friend. i think it started with the former, and without her knowing, evolved into the latter. at this point, i do believe she genuinely cares about sang tae, not just bc she realizes how important he is to kang tae, but also just for who he is. this is why i was confident that moon young wasn't crying bc kang tae said he likes hyung more than her at the end of episode 9. she knows hyung will always come first for him, and she is okay with that, bc she will put kang tae first before anyone else too.

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In the first few minutes the director makes it clear: she sheds a tear because she told ST the King’s donkey ears story and how a secret should be shared so ST is doing just that but not in the way that she had imagined.

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I think moms get the credit and the blame. I definitely credit my mom for being the person I am today. She was a stay-at-home mom and taught me to read and do the multiplication tables when I was 4. But as far as Kdram moms are concerned, I think Jeong-in's mom from OSN is my fave and Jin-an's mom from SITR is my least fave, even though I get where she's coming from. And played by the same actress even!!!

A couple/few questions (that I hope won't offend anyone)... I'm a Buddhist so I understand the whole reincarnation bit. I don't follow the negative connotation or implication that I'm reading here about KT not wanting to be born again. Isn't that supposed to be a good thing because that means you're moving to a better "life"? Or is this part of the Korean culture that to be born again is a good thing?

Second question...I get that Koreans love noodles (and apparently alcohol) as depicted in many of the kdrams I've watched. I don't get the (1) slurping of the noodles and (2) drinking the broth straight from the bowl.

Again, apologies if I offended anyone, - just trying to understand. FWIW, I wish I was born a Korean (south, preferably).

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@anteater please tell me what do these stand for: OSN, SITR and FWIW

I will try to answer your questions as best as I can though am not a South Korean:

Yes, not being born again would mean completing a birth cycle and it is considered good spiritually but in this context It is heartbreaking.

Someone is giving GT a compliment that he is everything she would want in a son if she ever had one but he is literally questioning if he even has the right to live, does that make sense?
He is trying to obliterate his existence and the way he is doing it has nothing to do with spirituality. He is not happy with the way he is living or how life is treating him, he doesn’t have agency (or he doesn’t recognize it because he knows nothing about it). If he was on a spiritual path his attitude towards life would be different :)

Noodle habits can be a bit of an exaggeration but East Asian noodles tend to be soupy.
(1) slurping of the noodles
Even I end up slurping if I make soupy noodles.
(2) drinking from the bowl
Would totally depend upon how prim and proper you are. I can’t imagine MY doing it but GT yes. Personally, I find the noodle soup super tasty so yes in order to not waste and finish everything I do drink from the bowl.
But of course this should be answered authentically by a South Korean, because answers above are my takes only.

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Thank you Ruckus. OSN = One Spring Night. SITR = Something In The Rain. FWIW = For what it's worth. Sorry for all the acronyms.

I understand the not born again context now. Too often, I don't think deeply enough.

Noodles are messy to eat. I grew up and still eat Pho (Vietnamese noodle soup) every chance I get. I just recall the broth going all over the place when I'd slurp/suck the noodles up. :) So I usually pick up the noodles and place them in the soup spoon, then dip the spoon to get some broth, etc. But I also get what you're saying. Thank you for taking the time to respond!!! Much appreciated.

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Other cultures always look more appealing from the outside 😅.

It's interesting you bring this up considering Buddhism is in the fabric of Korean history/culture, and we casually express wanting to be re-born as this or that even though the whole purpose is to escape the cycle of reincarnation. Maybe the paradox of the expression is why it's survives in use - I want to escape reincarnation, but I also want to be reborn as a 2nd gen chaebol. It could be the case that the expression is purely secular in origin, just borrowing an idea of reincarnation - someone with expertise in Korean history/literature person would be better equipped to answer this. Regardless of origin, I think Kang-tae's answer was secularly said, my life is so crummy that I wouldn't even want to do a do-over. It sounds more like giving up on life and something what a depressed person would say, more than I guess someone who positively eliminates the paradox of the expression by having no more lingering desire for life.

On your second point, drinking straight from the bowl is quite satisfactory which is the simplest explanation. I don't know whether slurping was brought over from the Japanese occupation era (like how bowing to superiors was) or existed before, but the broth is certainly prepared to be enjoyed almost on its own - most of the cooking time is getting the seasoning on the broth right.

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Based on my experience, I believe slurping originates from the fact that the food is eaten extremely hot. Slurping helps cool it down. Don't you dare try to wait until it cools before eating it either, because everyone will insist loudly that you eat it while it is hot. In times past, eating hot food was often the only way for a person to get warm. Another reason both for slurping and for drinking from the bowl, is that you are eating with chopsticks. You gotta get those noodles in your mouth quickly before they slither off. And have you ever tried scooping up soup with chopsticks? Of course now they have spoons and forks, but old customs die hard.

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So it is with great embarrassment that I say that I'm an Asian who is dreadful with chopsticks so I definitely can relate to the challenges of eating noodles with them. Your explanation makes great sense!!

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In solidarity — I can’t use chopsticks either :D

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Thanks for the recap @sailorjumun!

I just loved Moon-young looking out for herself, and celebrating her own birthday. If Kang-tae can't be there for her right now, she'll take care of herself and keep fighting. Not only that, she took her words to Sang-tae seriously and treated him as a friend who can make his own decision to let her back into his life, separate from Kang-tae's choice about their relationship. Not letting the status of her relationship with Kang-tae affect her treatment of her relationship with Sang-tae makes clear how 'real' it is to her.

There was definitely a purposeful undercurrent of unease last ep, even with the lighter moments, as if Kang-tae hadn't really set down his burden. The strain of his guilt marred his enjoyment. Even though he insisted he would not run away, he was not ready to make that promise, even to himself.

I look forward to Sang-tae being able to welcome and trust his new family. Moon-young's entrance into their lives will ultimately free them from their codependency. I only hope that this positive framing of Moon-young's presence in their lives does not shift focus away from their issues. I would love if the show means to continue to highlight the potentially dangerous aspects of their relationship, with them essentially being each other's red shoes. I'm just worried that the personal issues they have to resolve will obscure the issues that need addressing in their relationship.

Moon-young's insistence that she'll never let Kang-tae go was definite foreshadowing and since it didn't happen yet this episode, it will eventually. As much as 'breaking up for the other's own good' normally grates, for Moon-young, it could be a point of growth. She has already progressed from merely 'wanting him' to 'missing him'.

Jung-tae would be more effective as a caretaker than Cha-yong. At least he gave him his necessary comeuppance! Lol, somebody had to.

Also, shout-out to Sang-in for finally answering that dumb "who do you like more?" question properly. Again, somebody had to.

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"There was definitely a purposeful undercurrent of unease last ep."

Definitely. I was struck by how grimly KT had replied to MY's joke about the wife and mistress that they can never be friends. It was dark, and then he immediately started knocking back the drink. He had a great day, but I'm totally with you that his guilt is constantly on his back.

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As funny as the “Who do you like/love more” question was, it’s really time we let go of it. That can be quite awkward and hard to answer at that moment it was asked.

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Yes, though it happens all the time, also in real life.
I remember as a child being asked that question by adults. "Who do you love more, mum or dad?" How can someone be so cruel as to ask that a child?

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I could definitely feel the unease in this episode. Especially in the aftermath of the make- up scene when ST says that GT belongs to him (despite still thinking that he belongs to himself) and then goes on to say that he likes the dinosaurs while GT can only sadly say that he likes GT. It is like GT is being punished for what he did in the past and is giving up his life to his brother as a payment, while ST is allowed to have a life outside his brother. It’s like how ST can be friends with MY but doesn’t really like GT and MY having a “friendship” outside of him. I don’t think he is doing it consciously, but GT feels so guilty and will take any “punishment” because he doesn’t think he deserves to have a good life, even if it is evident his brother can’t give him everything he needs.

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I think the writer put the unease to show that their relationship isn’t fully developed, and some growth is still needed to make it a healthy one.

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In the last episode, I said Kang-tae lives in a lie, and he deserve some punishment for not keeping his promise with his brother for not lying (but at the same time, I said we are not that cheap for just looking for punishment for him). Yes, he may need some forgiveness, instead. Moon-yeong re-tell The Shepherd Boy story, showing us a boy always lie doesn't because of showing off, but being lonely. She is telling Sang-tae what his brother really is. Sang-tae, on the other hand, draw a picture of happy picnic with 3 people——Kang-tae, Moon-yeong and himself? I guess he can take in Moon-yeong in love with Kang-tae, but Kang-tae's guilt just can't. The only way they can seek happiness together (No, not just Kang-tae or Moon-yeong, but all 3 of them), Kang-tae must forgive himself. Actually, both Sang-tae and Moon-yeong is well prepared for this, they are just waiting for Kang-tae.

For Moon-yeong, yes, this situation is hurtful, but she knows, as she was screaming for him to escape yet she is catching him like a life jacket, Kang-tae is not doing the same. That's why she's crying in the end of last episode, because no one know more how hurtful he is then she herself. She is also taking the hit when he said she should leave him, because she knows; she did that to him before.

If you understand that, you won't think this episode is sad. Kang-tae has 2 very adorable persons waiting for him to turn back, and Moon-yeong is well prepared to love both of them and let both into her own life. This is, as a result, the biggest love story ever told.

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*is now doing the same.
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No pain no gain, so yes the episode was to make us cry so that we would feel happiness at its zenith when we see them together :)

@imperialtitus been reading about HK! How is the podcast coming along?

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Yes, @noone, I actually feel hopeful in this episode. We just wait for Kang-tae to turn around. He has to give up hiding and denying his own desire (That's when he stop lying to Sang-tae from time to time, which he always did and break his promise from the beginning of this drama).

Some say they cry their eyes off this drama, which I did not, which is strange. Maybe it is because I see what's coming in advance?

By the way, Hongkong is a pretty hot topic lately. If you understand Cantonese, you can watch it here (the newest one is on top): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMumW-G-11Gj9AUV9IR3ab6jWsOcVjPZ7

You can also try reading from our Facebook page. Almost I introduce news in Chinese, 80% of the articles I share are in English: https://www.facebook.com/LayDayNews/

Thanks for your concern.

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Also, to add, the fact that KT lies to ST quite regularly is pretty bad. KT treats ST like a child, you know how some parents don't see it as a big deal to lie to a child bc a child would just not really understand and bc a child is not a "full person", you are not as accountable as you would be if you lie to an adult. KT means well but he infantilizes ST way too much and tries to have the cake and eat it too by lying to ST. ST is absolutely in the right when he calls KT out on this behaviour.

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Hopefully after this reconciliation he realizes he needs to stop lying to his brother. At the same time after MY's explanation of Boy Who cried Wolf he might also be more understanding of why his brother lies.

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KT has apologized to ST about lying almost on every episode.
He needs to stop doing it by recognizing ST is not a baby. He's an adult that can be adult things. He obviously needs supervision, but he's not a baby.

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So I commented on this lying bit in ep 9. I used to tell little white lies, but not since I have children of my own for they become my conscience. And no, I'm not being self righteous or anything like that. It's just hard to go down the path of "Do as I say and not as I do", for me.

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From the looks of the preview for ep11, Park Ok-Ran is unlikely her mother. The head nurse is getting more and more suspicious as well. I am excited to see what is the backstory of this patient and how MY and KT will make up(?) once he reaches her castle. However, there seems to be another hint dropped by ST and the head nurse exchange about Dooly the dinosaur being a step-mother and the next episode's title is "The Ugly Duckling" so I cannot help but wonder if there are more details about our leads' background to unravel in the last 6 episodes.

Also many thanks for the recap!

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I want to run wild with theories but we only have 6 episodes left. Still, it’s possible.

I think nurse Park maybe a bit strange as Director Oh but she is a genuine person. Who goes out and get a mama dinosaur for a patient? I thought that was sweet.
I like it that she is on to Ok-ran and she knows that she is the one torturing Dae-hwan.

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The way nurse park is trying to foster a relationship with Sangtae is what is making me suspicious of her... As well as how she is so concerned about Ko DaeHwan judging from her facial expressions when she interacts with him

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i feel the same way. she just strikes me as someone who wants to help the people around her.

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That's the thing though, even though I can buy into her behavior being genuine and definitely think getting the mama dinosaur is sweet, it could be an intentional front. All the moments she gives an odd expression or response, it could always be explained away as something else. Which means my slight suspicion doesn't take away from my appreciation of her as a character, should it not pan out.

Honestly, I just want to know whether it's intentional or not. Even k-netz are suspicious of her, so I wonder whether they're purposefully trying to intrigue us about her character only for it to be nothing, lol.

I don't want the show getting too convoluted, so I'm kind of hoping that's the case, honestly.

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So a way out there theory is that she's an undercover detective who's there to investigate MY's missing mom.

Another thing ... no reference to butterflies for quite a few episodes now. They have to return some time, right?

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Ohhh that would be interesting.

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Question: how come KT had the car at the hospital to drive off to MY's house at the end? He went to work on the bus with JR; MY is at home - which I presume she used the car to get to. So...?

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I also cannot work this out. I'm sure Dr Oh would have lent him his car, but since KT shot out of there like lightening, it's not like he dropped by to get someone's keys.

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It looks like Moon-young’s Volvo unless everyone drives a Volvo at that hospital lol. Even Joo-ri has a white Volvo.
PPL much.

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THIS. I was thinking of how much the hospital nurses wages, that she can afford having a Volvo SUV too. I get MY is rich (since child), but Juri must be a hell money saver to drive one too (hahaha...mine approaching reality situation 🙈).

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Me too, wondering if Volvo is cheap in Korea? Hahah.. but then her mom owns the building they live in so maybe that’s where they make extra money.

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All I know is that my friend earned less than I did but she bought a car on EMI, so depends upon people, I guess!

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Haha plotholes. That's been the only one I've seen thus far, 10 episodes in, not bad at all lol.

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Anyone could’ve brought the car or forgotten it (shhhh, let’s not loud it) but remember that episode MY was strangled by her dad and then walk off leaving her car at the hospital? That might’ve happened, even if it didn’t let’s just pretend it did!😄

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Me too hey. i need an answer. that was a really glaring plothole. But anyway as long as it gets him faster to KMY :-)

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Moon-young took a taxi home after Kang-tae walked away. She had followed him a good distance from the hospital, and she didn't walk back, nor did she have the key as he was the one who drove them to the hospital. So the car was just sitting in the parking lot because Kang-tae took the bus home the night he apologized to Sang-tae and the bus to work the next morning with Joo-ri.

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Yup, I was about to add this, hehe, no plot hole.

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And MY has two cars. So she can have one at her door and the other, she left it in the hospital the day they arrived from their trip and has been there ever since. And it was KT driving.

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my other reasoning is that maybe she left it there deliberately...so kang tae will be obliged to bring it back as he has the keys....its like forgetting something at a persons house so u can visit it again...its devious and right up moon young's alley....🤫🤫🤫

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Related Question: Before Sang-in insisted on driving Joo-ri to work in his crappy company car, she declined by saying it's a short bus ride away. Why was Joo-ri taking the bus to work instead of driving her own car? I presumed the only reason she took the bus to work with Kang-tae was because she had left her car at Moon-young's house after getting wasted.

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As many have wondered how she could afford a Volvo SUV on her salary, so may be it got repossessed? J/k. :) No clue. I know I'm being repetitive, but at the beginning of ep 9, the scar on KT's right palm magically disappeared. May be the writer/director/... just missed it? Still an excellent show though - moving up rapidly to knock My Mister off my #1 spot.

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Good point. I kind of took it as "I'm taking the bus" meaning "I'd kind of like to be taken to work by you but I don't want to appear too eager". If she says the bus, he can still argue that his car is better; if she says, I'll just go in my Volvo, he's got no come-back and she's lost the opportunity. That was my take - although I appreciate I might be reading too much into JR's feelings at that point!

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that is what i thought of as well, i can clearly see her softening towards him, given that he spoiles her with attention the same way her mother does...plus i like Sang In he is the least messed up of all them including Joo ri...also i wanna know how his relationship with Moon young came to be she clearly trusts him...

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I also had a hard time watching the opening again; I even had my head partially turned away at one point. But this day at the lake had to come out. It's been festering between the brothers their whole lives. I'm glad the episode gave us considerable time with the brothers confronting, dealing with and starting to heal from that.

I'm impressed by MY's evolution. She is so awkward, but her heart is so in it. Following KT like a shadow (the shots so reminiscent of when they were children and he followed her), the brusqueness of her words as she tries to comfort him - she wants to help, and it lands a bit weird, but she's really trying. And she still rages ("I'm a bomb!"), she still reverts to pushy (those texts again), even if this time there was visibly much more hurt than anger behind those tears (ack, the way she rubbed her heart on the beach!!). I like that we see this all this development but that she's still very much MY.

I've been a little nervous that the show wouldn't treat the MY/ST relationship as genuine, but this combined with their scene at the other house worked for me. She was clearly hurt when it seemed that like the Cursed Castle had never been home for him. Her wanting to trade MT for her real friend, him tossing the drawing out the window, her trying to communicate by story, both of them on opposite sides of the window - all of that made me appreciate how we got to focus on them without KT factoring in.

Randomly the most memorable scene for me was when she put those flowers into water. "Don't trample them this time." What a quiet act of hope and faith - I didn't expect that from her.

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Wow! Thank you for refreshing my memory that KT followed MY when they were younger and now roles are reversed. I, too, loved that she didn't dismiss the flowers and that she knows (as well as KT) that the words coming out are not what his heart really means. MY is really maturing!

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One of the things I think this show is doing particularly well is weaving in these reverse parallels. On the beach when MY take KT's hand and says, "Don't go," I remembered that he did the same thing to her after the book signing situation; can't quite remember the whole context so will have to go back and watch again, but she starts to walk away, he grabs her hand and also says, "Don't go." I like the juxtaposition of perspectives and situations.

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Yes, yes, you nailed it, she has totally grown as a character. It is super subtle, but she has grown alot and I appreciate the writer doing a good job showing her slow and steady growth.

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moon young and sang tae connect on a level that is truly special. i love that she is so easily able to get her point across to him using stories and fairytales.

to add to moon young's development, seo yeji is doing a fabulous job keeping her character grounded to who moon young is at her core. even when she was crying, she didn't devolve into a blubbering mess, which could arguably have made her acting more impactful in that scene. but no, she pushed back and wailed and stayed true to the moon young we know, whose hurt is always tempered by an anger that's equally palpable.

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I agree on SYJ. It is like she studied and prepared for this role so well that she became KMY. Even how she crosses her arms and how she struts around are on point. Luckily Park Shin Hye passed on this role. I couldn't imagine anyone else as KMY but SYJ.

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this was offered to park shin hye??? *shudders*

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*shudders in tandem* I'm stumped as to why they would even have offered it to PSH? Not that I dislike her, but (aside from the fact that SYJ is KILLIN' it) that doesn't seem like an intuitive pick to me for this role....

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@dogemama @carlybisek IIRC, this project was offered to PSH even before KSH took it as his comeback project.

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The way she uses her voice, too, is amazing. She modulates it so well, it's totally a part of her character to me. Sometimes cold, flat and steely, then sweet and beckoning, then punchy and flinty, and finally, just plain hypnotizing. The scene at the motel, when she had KT up against the vending machine ("Does your heart ache? Do you...like me?"), it was like a cobra mesmerizing its prey. :-) Man, those two played that so well.

And, of course, the deer reply scream is on its own level.

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Sad that this show is not getting as much love in South Korea, as evidenced by its rating. This is a beautiful, beautiful show that lays out deep human feelings and flaws. They were right to cast Kim Soo Hyun for this role because this boy can really act. He's the type of actor that can show you the innermost pain(s) in his soul without saying any words, just by looking at his eyes. Saw this in him since Dream High, and he's totally killing it again here in It's Okay Not To Be Okay.

I hope Sang Tae soon realizes that Gang Tae is Gang Tae's, not his (I think Moon Young already will say this in next episode). I really want Gang Tae to be happy. He's clearly a depressed boy with so many times he verbalized not wanting to live.

On a side note, I am loving the preview with MY's hair down again and with colorful, vibrant dresses. Didn't like the ajumma style in this episode, which also toned down the fluff when she and Gang Tae had their first kiss.

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At this episode I was done, I was ready to throw hands, steal that poor boy and run away with him...

It might be my high on the devastation I watched but honestly I was just tired, like screw them everyone I willing to save only gt, he get him an expensive therapist and happiness...

But this being my first drama with the male lead am in acting heaven... I have always maintained the fact that I can't comment on acting because I know nothing about the job, unless someone else uses a neon light and points out that so and so is a terrible actor... With that said I have always graded acting on an actors ability to make me feel for them when crying, be it anger jealousy, greed, sadness, rage or devastation this is where I bring my two cents to the table...

And for my verdict, I would invite the man to cry at my funeral, just to know someone loved me that much...

Honesty I have watched, dramas from many parts of the world and even with KJW  being my better half I will say this WOW....

Unpopular opinion, yes juri think about it, what has he got to offer you   he is already offering too much and can't take care of himself...

Also like I said, would be happy if it ended without them getting together and GT going out on his own for a while....

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Another unpopular opinion, that reconciliation just frustrated me instead... I just saw it as GT apologising again for everything that could go bad in this world, and nothing was solved ST still things little brother tried to kill him and little brother still believes he should shoulder any and every blame on this earth....

Long live mother theresa... 😒😒😒

No matter how I look at it, even if the brought about positive results, the things MY does, drives me crazy... Am a person that believes in 50/50... She does these things not for a positive result, but because she can and is just lucky the universe is at her side...

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I so agree with you about the reconciliation scene being a tad one-sided. Why should KT only keep apologizing and ST doesn't even say I like you too to him. The day ST beat KT at MY's door was another cruel incident too. ST says ST belongs to ST but believes KT belongs to ST as well. That's selfish and not very adult !

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The more I think about it the more annoyed I get, I am à very laissé fair family member, I mind my business and you mind your business, if you need me call me no matter where you are kinda person... I advice but I never force and if you won't listen then experience is the best teacher as long as it doesn't lead to death...

So the fact that GT has to keep a report card ( to me the fact that he said he was going out was good enough and maybe where he was going to) and then go though all this pain just for taking a day for himself, shows how not adult, ST is...

The reaction in itself shows why there was a lie in the first place... People keep saying he shouldn't have lied (me I will give you a name place and time just in case I go missing and that be all) and how adult ST is but look at ST reaction...

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I feel bad that Kang Tae is reverting back to his old self. All thay self loathing is definitely crushing. His family and love life should not be mutually exclusive. Sang Tae and Moon Young can coexist as shown in previous episodes. Kang Tae just need to be brave and fight for who makes him happy. Sang Tae will understand.

That last scene...I will not get tired seeing Kang Tae off to the rescue again.

I think that there is a chance that Park Ok Ran is who they suspect her to be. She knows how to trigger Ko Dae Hwan with that song and privy to details that close family members would know. Unless she is another imposter who is delusional but they already did that in a previous episode. She may be the real deal and thay brings a whole load of angst in the next episodes.

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"That last scene...I will not get tired seeing Kang Tae off to the rescue again." Me neither...

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Park Ok Ran knew MY's birthday!!!!

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I really think Park Ok-Ran is not the mother...
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The brothers are so touching. ST knew that KT didn't feel loved by his mother like ST was. Now, he will have to understand when KT is smiling because he's really happy and not when he's faking.

I would like that MY stops her obsession with KT and ST and decides to get better by herself with a therapy. Then, she could have a relationship with the brothers. I want her to admit she needs help too.

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I know some people are mad at KT for his treatment of MY, but throughout this eps i kept wishing someone (anyone!) to tell KT “it’s ok, you’re not a bad person for that momentary lapse of judgement when you were 12! What’s important is that you came back and never once abandoned your brother again.” It’s totally acceptable for a person in his position to wish for ‘normality’ esp when he so obviously lacks support in caring for Hyung. So 5stars to MY for telling him that!

Now someone needs to tell ST that KT will still be his family even as they let more people into their life together.

As for MY.. i can’t believe it turns out Sang In had more insights into her than originally thought.. he does care about her! So sad that she went to Omma to get her own seaweed soup on her birthday..and all those shots when she was alone again in the mansion 😢

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I don't think ST is afraid of sharing KT with someone else.
What hurts the most ST is the fact that KT has kept lying to him.

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Am I the only one who is not worried about Moon-young? I’d be disappointed if she can’t protect herself from Ok-ran. She may not have a rock in her hands but she has a big scary umbrella somewhere by the door lol.

Ok-ran is playing a very dangerous game and she might be the one who needs to be saved.

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I lol'ed when Joori stood up looking for a fight and MY instinctively reached for an empty wine glass bottle 🤣.

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