It’s Okay to Not Be Okay: Episode 11
by SailorJumun
Ah, this show. With every episode, it leaves me emotionally (and almost physically) exhausted, yet I’m always excited to come back for more. Because even if our characters stomp on my heart, I know that some way or another, they’ll find some way to mend it. Let’s just keep it mended for now, okay?
EPISODE 11: “The ugly duckling”
At home, Moon-young uncrumples the paper Sang-tae threw out, and seeing it’s a drawing of her with the boys, she bursts into tears. There’s then a knock on her door, and she opens it to Ok-ran, who pops a party popper and sings “Happy Birthday.”
At OK Hospital, Kang-tae realizes that Ok-ran may be Moon-young’s mother, so he races out of there. He tries to call Moon-young, but she’s not picking up — she’s preoccupied with Ok-ran as she invites her inside.
Moon-young follows Ok-ran as she wanders about the mansion and asks what she’s doing here so late at night. Ok-ran reveals that Go Dae-hwan tried to kill her, and that he went on about needing to kill all monsters like her and Moon-young.
So Ok-ran wanted to visit Moon-young, thinking she’d be lonely tonight. After all, Ok-ran says, she’s a big fan of her mother. Ok-ran picks up a fountain pen and calls it pretty, and Moon-young warns her not to touch her stuff.
Moon-young grabs the pen but is surprised when Ok-ran doesn’t let go. Instead, Ok-ran smiles and says, “We’re quite alike. I also hate it when people touch my stuff.” Ok-ran whips the pen away, slashing Moon-young’s palm. And though Moon-young doesn’t seem to register the pain, the action surprises her.
A panicked Kang-tae finally reaches the mansion, and he sprints inside, yelling for Moon-young. He goes into the study and sees the splatter of blood on the floor, from Moon-young’s palm. Before Kang-tae can really panic, Moon-young appears at the top of the staircase, safe and sound.
Kang-tae closes the distance between them and holds Moon-young so tight that it takes her breath away (and mine). He’s relieved to see that she’s okay, which gives her hope, but then he demands to know where Ok-ran is.
Frowning, Moon-young tells him that “that ajumma” already left. Is that the reason why he came — not because he missed her, but because a patient escaped? She lets go of him, saying that his brother, and now even the patients, are more important to him than her.
He starts to argue, but she turns and storms off to her room. She flashes back to earlier, just after Ok-ran cut her hand. She reflexively reached for some scissors, but then she remembered Kang-tae’s advice to count to three if she felt close to losing control.
It took everything in Moon-young to count to three and hold back. And with that, she ordered Ok-ran to get out of her house. Though now, Moon-young is wishing she’d just lashed out.
Kang-tae comes into her room and sits by her side to wrap up her wounded hand. But she snaps that her hand doesn’t even hurt; his words from before, of them having an ill-fated relationship, hurt much, much more. He said that she isn’t an empty can, so why is he still treating her like one?
She’s getting agitated, so he grabs her by the shoulders and urges her to count to three if she can’t control herself. She does, saying, “One, two,” while the intensity between them only grows. They say, “Three,” at the same time and omo… Kang-tae surrenders control, cupping her face and kissing her.
They come up for air and look into each other’s eyes before going in again (omo x2). Kang-tae pulls away, and this time, he softly says, “Happy birthday. I missed you.” He smiles and says that she’s turning red, though she blames it on the heat. She points out that he’s red too, and remembers that he has a fever.
The hospital hears from Kang-tae and learns that Ok-ran came to Moon-young’s place. Director Oh orders everyone to be on high alert tonight, in case she returns.
Meanwhile, Jae-soo joins Sang-tae in his apartment as he’s eating. Jae-soo takes out the Mang-tae doll, having found it outside, and Sang-tae reveals that the doll is the third Moon brother. Jae-soo wants to be their brother too, but Sang-tae refuses to accept anyone who’s not really related.
As Moon-young is caring for Kang-tae in bed, dabbing his forehead with a towel, she asks about her father choking Ok-ran. He tells her not to worry about that and pulls her to his side. Holding her, he says that it’s nice to have someone look after him when he’s sick. He closes his eyes, falling asleep, and she gently takes his hand to look at the scar on his palm. She snuggles up closer, making him wrap his arm around her, and they sleep like that.
The next morning, at the apartment building, Joo-ri finds Sang-in spraying air freshener in his car. (She’d thrown up inside of it after getting drunk.) She gives him money to fix it, and he notes that he used to offer money to people whenever Moon-young caused trouble; he now realizes how bad he must’ve made those people feel. So rather than use the money to fix the car, he suggests they use it to eat a meal together.
By now, Kang-tae’s fever is gone, and Moon-young wonders if he was faking it. He smiles like a goof and says that it must’ve been lovesickness. He then takes her downstairs so they can sit down for a more serious talk.
At first, she pouts, thinking it’s another “My brother is enough” lecture. But then he reveals that his mother was murdered and that Sang-tae was the only witness. Sang-tae was so traumatized that they fell into this routine of running away.
In flashback, we see the murder through Sang-tae’s eyes: a woman in high heels had walked away from their mother’s body, to him, and caressed his hair. He recoiled in fear, only seeing the butterfly brooch on her jacket.
Since then, the brothers had to leave before spring, when the butterflies would arrive. Because Sang-tae would have his recurring nightmare of the murder and scream that the butterflies were going to kill him. With Sang-tae carrying this trauma, Kang-tae believes he has to keep caring for him.
Even so, he still wants Moon-young in his life. He repeats something she once said, that when someone you need shows up, it’s destiny. And right now, he needs her. “I have to stay by Hyung’s side,” he says, looking up at her. “So you just stay by my side.” She smiles, tears in her eyes, and says that she can do that.
At the hospital, the staff see Dae-hwan off before he gets tested for a possible brain tumor. Afterwards, Nurse Park makes the order to clear Ok-ran’s belongings and hand them off to the police; since Ok-ran is still missing, they need to provide her room to someone on the waiting list.
Upstairs, while Director Oh and Pil-wong are playing a game, Pil-wong says he heard that Ok-ran used to be an obscure stage actress and that she had multiple plastic surgeries. Apparently, lately, her roommates noticed her behaving strangely — she always insisted on practicing her acting and memorizing something.
As Kang-tae comes into work, a few people like Joo-ri and patient Sun-hae notice that he seems a lot happier than he was just yesterday. He turns more puzzled, however, as he packs up Ok-ran’s things. One curious find is a pack of note cards with written lines crossed out. Hmm, the lines she was trying to memorize, perhaps?
Later, Kang-tae tries to make out the words on the cards, to no avail. Director Oh joins him, wanting to ask why Ok-ran would go to Moon-young’s of all places. Kang-tae hopes that the reason was nothing more than to wish her a happy birthday, that nothing bad will happen to them anymore.
Kang-tae decides to tell Director Oh about the butterfly story as well, hoping he can help Sang-tae confront his trauma. Director Oh is flattered that Kang-tae is trusting him on this, since everyone thinks he’s a quack doctor. And Kang-tae smiles, saying that Sang-tae, more than anyone, can determine if he’s a true quack or not. Hee.
Moon-young is feeling good right about now and, looking at Sang-tae’s drawing, is motivated to get on Sang-tae’s good side. She visits him at the pizza place (keeping Jae-soo busy by ordering twelve pizzas), and tries to pitch a new story idea that she got from the drawing. However, Sang-tae won’t be moved.
So Moon-young goes with threats instead, telling Sang-tae to illustrate for her or compensate for breaking their contract. In the kitchen, Jae-soo calls Kang-tae to inform him that Moon-young dropped by. He’s starting to like her, but he says that Kang-tae will always be his #1. In turn, Kang-tae says that Jae-soo is his #3.
Moon-young follows Sang-tae out, badgering him to listen to her. She gets frustrated and yells his name, and he finally faces her, saying, “I’m not giving you Kang-tae!” She argues that Kang-tae isn’t an object, that Kang-tae doesn’t belong to him, but he insists that he’s the brother and that she’s a stranger.
Moon-young stops by the hospital to drop off the twelve pizzas and to relay her frustrations to Kang-tae. She tells him that she feels like those men who beg their girlfriends’ parents for permission to marry.
Trying not to laugh, Kang-tae says that it took Sang-tae ten years to like Jae-soo. He figures it’ll take much longer for Sang-tae to like Moon-young, since he’s already upset with her. Moon-young snaps that she can’t wait that long and turns to walk off, but Kang-tae just guides her over to a bench and kneels in front of her.
Kang-tae gently explains that Sang-tae’s only acting this way because Kang-tae is his only family and he’s worried that Moon-young will steal him away. “We should earn his trust,” Kang-tae continues. “You’re not taking me away from him, but he now has one more person who will stay by his side.”
Moon-young softens and agrees to try. Kang-tae then reminds her to keep her door locked, which she agrees to too. He caresses her hair, and augh, the way they smile at each other.
Once Moon-young leaves, Kang-tae joins the staff and learns of Dae-hwan’s test results — his tumor has returned and spread. And unfortunately, the doctors say that surgery will be pointless.
During break, Joo-ri tells her mom that she’s meeting Sang-in for lunch, and Mom immediately shoves lipstick in her face. Of course, when the couple meet up, Sang-in has to comment on it, saying she looks good with or without makeup.
Flustered, Joo-ri changes the subject to Moon-young and asks if she has any other relatives. After saying no, Sang-in correctly assumes that Dae-hwan’s test results were bad; he promises to tell Moon-young at the right time.
Joo-ri starts to ask about Kang-tae, but Sang-in suggests they stop talking about Kang-tae and Moon-young and start talking about themselves. He wants to know where she learned how to drink, and she laughs before delving into her explanation. Not gonna lie, you guys are kind of cute.
That night, Moon-young gets a surprise visit from Seung-jae, and she’s delighted to hear that Kang-tae sent Seung-jae so she wouldn’t be by herself. Seung-jae is willing to help however she can, and to that, Moon-young has a question. Moon-young wants to know if it’s weird that her mother’s fan came by to wish her a happy birthday.
Seung-jae answers that it isn’t weird at all; when she was a fan of H.O.T’s Tony, she celebrated all of his family members’ birthdays. Moon-young’s more taken aback that Seung-jae was an H.O.T fan, because it means Seung-jae must be older than her. LOL.
At the apartment, Sang-tae is engrossed in watching Dooly, when Kang-tae scooches up next to him and asks why the character Gil-dong lets the others live with him. Sang-tae says that they may be strangers, but Gil-dong accepted them because he’s an adult, as well as their guardian.
Kang-tae eases into the question, “You’re also an adult, right, Hyung?” Sang-tae answers that of course he’s an adult, and Kang-tae stresses that he’s an adult like Gil-dong — someone who can accept others as family. When Sang-tae says a quiet yes, Kang-tae concludes that he’s trying really hard to become an adult too.
The next day, while Sang-tae is working on his mural, Director Oh comes by and expresses (fake) disappointment that there aren’t any butterflies. The mural wouldn’t be complete without butterflies, so Director Oh refuses to pay Sang-tae until they’re there.
Later, when Kang-tae picks Sang-tae up to go home, he sees that Sang-tae has packed up all his painting supplies. Sang-tae exclaims that he’s not going to paint those butterflies, going straight to the apartment and straight into bed. Kang-tae isn’t having it, reminding Sang-tae that he’s supposed to be an adult.
Sang-tae tries to go for the zip-up closet, but Kang-tae grabs him and tells him not to run away. The boys struggle, until Sang-tae bites Kang-tae, and Kang-tae hits him on the back to make him let go. Sang-tae can’t believe his dongsaeng just hit him, and Kang-tae snaps that Sang-tae’s hurt him on so many occasions.
Kang-tae: Do you think I stay quiet because I enjoy getting hurt? I’m not going to hold it in anymore!
Sang-tae: When you need to control yourself, count to three!
Kang-tae: No, you count!
Sang-tae: Listen to me! I’m your hyung!
Kang-tae: Then act like one!
The boys get into a full-on fight, and it results in Kang-tae with a nosebleed and some minor bruising. When Kang-tae and Jae-soo are on the roof, Kang-tae starts laughing and says that he feels so relieved now that he’s fought with his brother.
With a sigh, Jae-soo says that Moon-young must’ve really gotten inside Kang-tae’s head. But Kang-tae says that this is who he really is. He lies on his back and happily exclaims, “Moon Kang-tae belongs to Moon Kang-tae!”
Downstairs, in Joo-ri’s apartment, Joo-ri and her mom tend to Sang-tae’s wounds. Sang-tae is rambling that he’s going to disown Kang-tae, so Joo-ri and Mom give each other knowing looks and pretend that they’re interested in adopting him then.
Into the night, while Sang-tae is sleeping, Kang-tae gets up to put a bandage on Sang-tae. As he does, we see the last bit of his conversation with Jae-soo. He told him that he and Sang-tae are still learning how to socialize with people and that he’s starting with Moon-young because she’s the loneliest person he knows.
Kang-tae is bombarded with texts from Moon-young, so he picks her up to take her out for a midnight snack. He tells her that he got in a fight with Sang-tae, and she worries this will mess with their plan. She suggests he just tell Sang-tae he likes her. He tests it out, saying, “I like Go Moon-young,” and making her smile.
She then asks when he’s going to start taking care of himself — isn’t there anything he wants to do? He says that there are three things, two of which he’s already done. One was to go on a trip, two was to fight with his brother, and three… Though it’s too late, he always wanted to wear a uniform and go to school.
We see into an alternate universe, where both Kang-tae and Moon-young are high school students. He sees her for the first time and, smitten, he follows her down the street and tries to talk to her. But then his brother appears and attack-hugs him, making her walk away.
Sensing romance in the air, Sang-tae calls Moon-young back and lets Kang-tae do his thing. The couple smile at each other… and we’re shown that Kang-tae is actually asleep in his apartment and seeing all of this in a dream.
Kang-tae starts talking in his sleep, saying he likes “her” so much. Sang-tae wakes up to this, and seeing the look on Kang-tae’s face, he gets up to check his emotion chart. And Sang-tae realizes, with tears in his eyes, that Kang-tae’s expression matches the word “Happy.”
The following day, Sang-in stops by the mansion to give Moon-young the news about her father. She’s clearly somewhat affected, but she simply says that her father is already dead to her. He tries to tell her that her father acts the way he does because of his mental condition, but she won’t hear it. Once Sang-in is gone, she lies in bed and stares at an old photo of her with her parents (her mother’s face torn out).
Meanwhile, Sang-tae calls Kang-tae at work and immediately asks if he’s eaten (something Kang-tae usually asks him). Since he hasn’t, Sang-tae tells him to meet him at a restaurant for lunch. All throughout lunch, Sang-tae acts like the big brother, cutting Kang-tae’s food and even offering some of his own. At the end of the meal, he hands Kang-tae money and says, “It’s your allowance.” Kang-tae just smiles at him and promises to spend it wisely. Stahhhp, you’re gonna make me cry.
As the boys leave, Moon-young makes herself known at a nearby table and asks Sang-tae to pay for her meal too. (She called Kang-tae and found out where they were.) But Sang-tae just walks out, prompting her to chase after him.
Kang-tae watches nervously as Moon-young grabs Sang-tae and tells him that she’s an orphan — she has no one to give her an allowance or to eat with. Sang-tae moves forward, ordering Kang-tae to follow. And frustrated, Moon-young calls out, “I’m saying I want to have a big brother like you!”
That stops Sang-tae in his tracks. After a moment, he looks back at them, unsure, and yells for Kang-tae to come. Kang-tae and Moon-young look disappointed, but then he yells, “Go Moon-young! Hurry up!” Their expressions turn to surprise and then utter joy, and they run over to catch up with him.
As we see the boys return to the mansion (Sang-tae returning Mang-tae to Moon-young), we get a narration of Kang-tae telling Sang-tae the story of The Ugly Duckling.
Kang-tae says that ugly duckling felt lonely because he was ridiculed by the other ducks, so he left his family. But what would’ve happened if his family had been more accepting? “If the adult embraces the kids,” he says, “the ducks and swans can all get along and live together just fine.”
Moon-young and the brothers all sleep soundly that night… unaware that there’s someone else in the mansion. In the basement, a woman sits at the vanity and takes out a butterfly brooch. We see the shadow of the brooch hovering over Moon-young and then Kang-tae, towards their throats.
COMMENTS
Oh come on, you couldn’t just end with the trio walking off into the sunset? Why you gotta make me scared for their lives? Seriously, though, the drama sure is keeping us on our toes. I was 100% positive that Ok-ran is Moon-young’s mother, and now I’m back to 0%. It’s still a possibility, but it’s looking like Ok-ran is more of an obsessed fan having fun with her stage. And I don’t know if my mind is playing tricks on me, but the glimpses we got of the woman in the basement didn’t look like Ok-ran. But even if Ok-ran is just an obsessed fan, how does she know what she knows? How does she know that Go Dae-hwan killed Do Hui-jae? I read Beanie theories on Nurse Park being Do Hui-jae, and honestly, after rewatching her scenes, it doesn’t seem too far-fetched. We’re given more and more information each week, yet we still don’t know where the story is going to go. And as hard as that is on my brain, I love it. Moon-young’s mother, whoever she is, if she even is, is still an enigma. She is still a ghost, haunting these episodes and creating unease when all I want to do is be happy for our characters.
But whatever, I’m still going to be happy. Starting with that running hug, I felt this wave of relief. Kang-tae letting go of any sadness or anger or hesitation just to hold Moon-young and make sure she was okay — it gave me such a visceral reaction, I can’t put it into words. From there, Kang-tae freed himself more than he ever has. He allowed himself to like Moon-young, to trust her and open up to her, and to see that there can be happiness with both her and his brother. I think he’s been happy before, but this was different. Everyone, from Joo-ri to Sang-tae, could see that his smile was different. Kang-tae wasn’t Moon Kang-tae, Sang-tae’s guardian or Moon Kang-tae, the caregiver; he was simply Kang-tae. His and Moon-young’s spirits have always felt young, and I felt that again with his high school romance dream. He was the responsible adult for so much of his life, so it was satisfying to watch him play that innocent kid. He may have missed out on school life, but that youthful giddiness is just beginning for him.
On the opposite end, we had Sang-tae, who’s always been the innocent kid, step up as the responsible adult. All throughout the drama, he talked about being the hyung but didn’t quite know how to be one. I remember in one scene, when he was apologizing on Kang-tae’s behalf, that he accidentally called Kang-tae the hyung instead of himself. As if he was so used to Kang-tae being in that hyung role. But when Sang-tae saw Kang-tae’s happy expression, it flipped a switch. I think that, maybe, Sang-tae saw his brother as a kid for the first time and finally got the motivation to take care of him. He’s an observant guy, so he picked up on the little things Kang-tae did for him; all he needed was that extra push to execute those things himself. The lunch scene with Sang-tae acting all big brotherly was the cutest, sweetest thing ever, and then he went on to act big brotherly to Moon-young! It was such a reward, having him call out to her, and very much earned.
Finally, Moon-young. We know she can take care of herself (she proved that with her encounter with Ok-ran), but it’s comforting to know she now has a loving, protective family. It’s been subtle, but being around these boys, she really has grown a lot. I mean, I beamed with pride when she firmly stated that Kang-tae wasn’t an object. I still remember the time she called people objects and Kang-tae was so turned off that he walked away from her. Oh, how far we’ve come. Things are sure to get rocky again when we get the full story on the brothers’ mother and how she was murdered. I didn’t want it to be true, for our trio’s sake, but Sang-tae’s feared butterfly is looking to be Do Hui-jae. Still, after everything our trio has been through, there’s nothing they can’t overcome.
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1 nightskye
July 26, 2020 at 6:05 PM
Oh my GOD, that kiss. That sibling fight. That slo-mo walk of our trio walking side by side, finally together as their own little family. After the absolute mess of last week, I really did not expect for this week to give us such a heart-wrenchingly sweet episode. Have mercy on my feelings, Show. But also, thank you.
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Miranda
July 26, 2020 at 8:43 PM
What’s sort of great about Moon Young is that she doesn’t do indirect manipulation well. So when she yells that she wants an oppa like Sang Tae, I actually believe it. She’s not just saying it as a part of a plan to get close to Kang Tae - there’s genuinely a large part of her that wants to have that relationship with Sang Tae. She WANTS him to accept her. She wants the family, not just to split Kang Tae off.
I’m also not sure that Moon Young actually has APD anymore. And by that I mean I’m not sure she ever had it, or was borderline at best. It increasingly seems like her mother molded her into this way of behaving, in a very nurture v. nature way. I don’t think someone with the level of natural APD traits that MY initially showed would be able to alter her behavior so quickly. But at least we’re also seeing that as a child, she didn’t have full-blown APD traits either, so this isn’t coming across as a reversal.
She’s still neuro atypical, I’d say, but a lot of those checkmarks have moved for me from the column of APD into the column of learned behavior via child abuse.
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BC
July 26, 2020 at 9:46 PM
What I've read about APD was that you can't inherit it, you can have predisposition for it, but it's the environment, people around who strongly affect this little human being brought to that type of world. Children are really like sponges and they can be influenced into the point where they would think that killing anything living is just a necessary thing to do with no emotions included. That's why children are bombarding us with questions Why it's like that? What it's for? How it is made? If you, a person who that child ultimately trust you and isn't confronted with other respondings, tell him that that's the way how it is, what is it for and for what reason it was made etc. , you can easily create a dangerous being for a normal society. Look at children's soldiers and even Japanese methods of raising samurai warriors is at the very edge.
MY was raised by her mother to become a monster but because she 'd met KT she started to see the world in different light and that was I dare to say interfering with mother's intentions. Two different teachings crushed like two stones and it could bring some terrific rage to one of its teacher.
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dogemama
July 27, 2020 at 7:34 AM
i really wonder if kang tae going back to get sang tae out of the water was the beginning of this shift in moon young. she wants him to run away initially, like it's the only thing she would know to do in a situation like that. and when he turns around to run to his brother, she says how uninteresting, like he let her down. but later, she lands on not saving him with the petals, but she still goes to his rescue. perhaps this was the first time that she acted out of the norm her mother had taught her. kang tae unknowingly triggered growth of the little seedling of innate goodness in her.
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BC
July 27, 2020 at 8:35 AM
I think yes, I'll repeat myself but at the beginning of this story in the cartoon it was told that when KT came to MY's life the SHADOW'd disappeared. The Shadow represents her mom's influence, presence. Adults need to learn kids that there's not only black & white that the palette of life, behaviour, mind is so colourful that eyes can spin in any moment and it was little KT who started to mix the colours.
WalexB
July 27, 2020 at 3:56 PM
«MY was raised by her mother to become a monster»
The trailer pretty much says as much: that she is not a monster, but her mother tried to turn her into one
«but because she 'd met KT she started to see the world in different light»
Her connection with Kang-Tae was supposed to save her when they were children, but then he ran away terrified by her problems (and by his problems) and left her alone. And now he has decided to stop running away, and his connection with her is saving them both.
Both because Moon-Young is also saving Kang-Tae by pushing him to feel and in particular to feel like an individual and not a role. I have also noticed that Moon-Young's insights and directness are also having a very positive effect on some of OK's patients.
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DigN4Bones
January 12, 2022 at 7:05 PM
Agree. I'm a retired psychotherapist, who specialized in therapy with abused children. I see MY's behaviors to be from having had an abusive childhood. She is capable of emotions that a true ASPD would not be capable of.
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Rhena
May 20, 2023 at 11:33 AM
I'm also a psychotherapist and while everyone was finding it difficult to dissect komoonyoung as a character I understand her personality and nature of trauma from episode 2 lol
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2 FormAnOrderlyQueue
July 26, 2020 at 6:19 PM
Wow, @sailorjumun, your recaps are getting speedier and speedier - your love for the show is shining!!! Thank you so much.
The part of the episode that most brought tears to my eyes - Sang-tae's fascination with seeing "happiness" on his brother's face for the first time. This was so, so well-acted! He saw, checked his chart, went back to check again, confirmed, went back to bed - but then couldn't prevent himself from getting up again to look at KT's face again. It felt like he had just discovered a priceless work of art and couldn't stop himself gazing on it. What a beautiful, beautiful thing.
A close second for emotional power had to be ST accepting MY into the family. Again, brilliantly scripted and *great* use of OST. The slo-mo trio walk down the street had me punching the air. And I loved the interpretation of the Ugly Duckling that was presented - it would have been a better story if the cygnet/swan hadn't left but had just been accepted by the duck family. Sooooooo pleased that MY got that version of the story!
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uzistar
July 26, 2020 at 7:44 PM
Yes, that scene where Sang-tae checked Kang-tae's expression was really well-acted! I felt how Sang-tae was surprised and overwhelmed.. woah. And your description made me feel it again =D
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dogemama
July 26, 2020 at 8:18 PM
i loved their twist on the ugly duckling! they have been pretty unpredictable in taking different things away from these fairy tales. here the story finishes even before it begins!
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dramalover4ever
July 26, 2020 at 9:18 PM
I suspect there is more to come with the ugly duckling story.
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3 jillian
July 26, 2020 at 6:20 PM
Wow! What a quick recap @sailorjumun!
I love a lot of things in this episode - the character growth of our leads, that kiss!, ST and KT lunch date, then the aftermath when ST yelled at MY and KT to hurry up. Then also JR and SI's first unofficial date. KT and MY cuddle time. ❤❤❤
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KDramzFan
July 27, 2020 at 5:57 AM
I get the feeling everyone is getting nicely paired off in some way or the other: KT and MY; JR and SI.
Wondering what will happen with ST and JS.......
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4 FormAnOrderlyQueue
July 26, 2020 at 6:27 PM
And what is up with Nurse Park? Why was she so sure that Ok-ran wouldn't come back and her room could be cleared? What does she know???
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uzistar
July 26, 2020 at 7:22 PM
I know, right?? I don't think (or don't want to believe) she's a bad person because she's always been shown as having good intentions, even correcting her juniors, but that was really suspicious. And her facial expressions.. 😳
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Gnarly
July 27, 2020 at 1:05 PM
JMO: I think Nurse Park might be some kind of private investigator, looking into the murder of MY's mom.
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FiyaShady
July 26, 2020 at 10:42 PM
Remember about conversation of Director O with his minion (the old ajushhi)...that somehow Park Ok- Ran is practising her line (stage drama) every single night? It seems that someone is staging her act or giving secret instruction on what should she (Ok Ran) do. Most probably Nurse Park is related about it (maybe she is the mastermind).
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LemonyLite
July 27, 2020 at 3:27 AM
I also find her more and more suspicious but I think it's unlikely that she's the mastermind behind Ok-Ran's behaviour because we have seen them interact in private, like when OK-Ran gave her a paper cut with the book etc. So unless that was some weird "stay in character and let's pretend I really am just a random nurse" acting practice I think Nurse Park didn't put Ok-Ran up to it, at least not directly. She might have manipulated her indirectly through really subtle things but I think that's kinda implausible.
Also if she really went to nurse school just to get this job then she is playing the looooong game. Unless she killed the actual Nurse Park and is impersonating her.
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OLakes
July 26, 2020 at 11:57 PM
I also really wanted to believe the Nurse Park was the benevolent second wing to Dr Oh, but at this point I'm fearing some nefarious machinations - I just really can't figure out who I think she is! But I just feel like she knows something and she's cleverly pulling some strings...just can't work out if it's for evil, or if that's a red herring and she's really some kind of fairy godmother.
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Eazal
July 27, 2020 at 6:07 AM
Yes, I'm feeling the same way. I was totally convinced she and Dr. Oh were on the same line and "plotting" together whatever they were plotting, but not after episode 12...
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dogemama
July 27, 2020 at 7:39 AM
dr. oh is clearly the fairly godmother here!
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froyo
July 27, 2020 at 1:05 AM
i got goosebumps when Nurse Park said that, but she has been so cold this past 2 episodes even though her mouth still smiling. like joker?
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kiara
July 27, 2020 at 1:05 AM
I think it's intentional to make us suspicious and I still believe that she is genuine and hard working. I mean nothing escape her and she keeps Director Oh and the rest of the staff in check.
I think it makes her character a little more interesting because there is not much for her to do.
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Eazal
July 27, 2020 at 6:07 AM
I hope so, I hope so, because I really like her.
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dogemama
July 27, 2020 at 7:42 AM
i thought so too originally, but i'm starting to see some sketchiness. she is either somehow involved, or is well-meaning but just has a really creepy smile.
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kiara
July 27, 2020 at 9:43 AM
I love a bit of mystery but without a clear motive I'm just not motivated to go any further.
Pretty lazy on my part lol.
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FiyaShady
July 27, 2020 at 12:11 PM
Me too 🙈
kakakash
July 27, 2020 at 1:10 AM
Oooof she downright freaky rn. Idk what it is and but after that first beanie mentioned it I can’t unsee it.
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Eazal
July 27, 2020 at 6:05 AM
I'm beginning to think there's something dark about Nurse Park. I didn't want, because I really like her, but these last two episodes made me fell a bit uneasy about her...
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CS
July 27, 2020 at 8:29 AM
I've always been more suspicious of DR. O but at this point, I think anything is possible. I think Park Ok-ran is not acting alone.
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Miky
July 27, 2020 at 1:01 PM
i sense she is Mom if she is indeed alive and she killer Ok-ran because she touched what is hers...
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5 Tee
July 26, 2020 at 6:29 PM
This episode was everything!! The kiss, the brothers fighting, Kang tae smiles. I finally see what the other characters were talking about ( his weird smiles). I don't know, his smiles this episode were really genuine.
And that kiss!omo! When he lifted her with an arm, I kinda lost it😁
Lol I really hope I'm not the only one who abused the rewind button on that kiss scene.
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 26, 2020 at 8:44 PM
It's db where a KSH cult is growing each day, so rest assured you're not the only one 😅 I was even playing a song called "rewind" by Zhoumi (formerly Super-M member) after the nth rewind, kinda like having a celebratory bgm they play in dramas.
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dogemama
July 27, 2020 at 7:44 AM
i love that song! and i think he is a former super junior member, not super-m.
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doggo
July 27, 2020 at 3:16 PM
Actually, he is a member of the Super Junior subgroup Super Junior-M. He and Henry were never part of the bigger, original umbrella group Super Junior. Not sure if Super Junior-M is still active though after Henry left. When I googled it, it seems like Super Junior-M did not disband yet; maybe just a hiatus?
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 9:45 PM
My multifandom brain glitched a little, excuse the mistake. I meant to write super junior- M. I even typed the - but forgot the junior 🤦♀️ I love that song too! And the choreography!
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Mandy
July 27, 2020 at 5:15 AM
Haha your comment totally hit me with Kang-tae’s fake smile LOL. In the first episodes, when Jae-su called him a joker, I didn’t *fully* get it. He did look happy actually. But that’s the whole point - Kang-tae always pretended to be happy for Sang-tae and he’s had to make it verrryyy convincing (as he told Moon-young) because Sang-tae reads people’s faces to understand their emotions.
For the first time, he’s actually happy - really happy that even with his eyes closed, his slight smile makes it obvious. I’m in love with that scene (and can’t stop talking about it - I promise this is the last comment on that LOL)
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dogemama
July 27, 2020 at 7:49 AM
sang tae's eyes brimming with tears upon the realization was so powerful. it's almost like he himself is experiencing happiness for the first time, seeing his brother in that light.
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Miky
July 27, 2020 at 1:05 PM
Also no suprise but i adore Sang Tae's wit and here again when he used Jae Su's name soo funny with that pun on it when he refused to share his lunch...(If u add "no" aka" op-so" to Jae -Su's name it means bad luck or annoying) jajja...I was actually expecting Sang Tae to do the world paly and giggled so much when he actually said it jajja
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Moon Min Min
August 19, 2020 at 7:24 PM
You were NOT the only one to mangle the rewind button! And I'm not gonna lie, I'll be going back to that again...and again.
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6 strawberry
July 26, 2020 at 6:30 PM
Thanks for the speedy recap!!!
I absolutely love how far our leads have come! It's so heartwarming and satisfying to see concrete character developments. It's also amazing that our characters talk to one another when it's time to do so, instead of holding back for a "noble" cause (I might have spoken too soon, but oh well). It's not like the plot isn't set up for enough angst already.
I'm so very excited to see how our trio overcomes the obstacles ahead because I know that they will be successful. (I hope, oh so I hope, that this won't be a God's Gift redux.)
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7 earthna
July 26, 2020 at 6:47 PM
Omg thank you for the super fast recaps!
I really loved the reversals in this episode. Sang-tae saying and doing the things Gang-tae used to do for him. Moon-young doing the same for Gang-tae. The brothers fight was so refreshing! See what happens when we don't keep our feelings inside the whole time? This is what we get!
Moon-young trying so hard too! She's improved so much and I'm really proud of her. She didn't lose herself but she has learned how to control her urges.
Loveeeee Joo-ri and Sang-in together! I'm so happy she's moved on and can be herself around Sang-in.
Seung-jae though! She's probably 40! Hahhaahhahahaha
Sang-tae ㅠㅠ ahhhh I'm tearing up just thinking about it again. He looked so dependable and I love how he decided to be the big brother now and take care of Gang-tae too. When he gave GT allowance ㅠㅠ my heart!!! When he accepted Moon-young into the family!!! Ahhh Hyung!!
This drama could have ended with that shot of the three of them and I'd be good. But of course, they gotta put the butterflies in the end there! Ughhhhhh
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uzistar
July 26, 2020 at 8:04 PM
Yes, Joo-ri and Sang-in! I love that when the show gave happiness, it's for everyone~!! =D
Also, yeah, the show could've ended with that shot of the three of them haha!
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earthna
July 26, 2020 at 9:03 PM
I hope the viewers will be included in the happiness they're sharing around. My heart cant take anymore pain!
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dogemama
July 26, 2020 at 8:28 PM
i'm ready to take the ending of this episode as the end of the show too in the off chance that the writing goes to hell. that shot of the three of them was beautiful.
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earthna
July 26, 2020 at 9:03 PM
It's always nice to have a backup plan lol.
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LemonyLite
July 27, 2020 at 3:37 AM
NoOoOoOooo please don't jinx it!
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Dreamer205
July 28, 2020 at 8:50 AM
Not sure if this was mentioned already, in the scene of Sang-in and Juri's lunch date the light on the back wall went from red => yellow => green, signifying their budding relationship. The attention to detail of this show is just amazing! I will definitely need to rewatch from the beginning once it's completed to see if I've missed any details. 🙃
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earthna
July 28, 2020 at 9:31 AM
Ohhhh I didnt notice! Thanks for pointing it out. Will have an eye out when I rewatch!
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8 uzistar
July 26, 2020 at 7:13 PM
Wow! Everyone's so happy now!! ♡ I cried happy tears... I'm sure it's what most people think, but I just want to let it out =D I love this episode!
I really love how Kang-tae has been very honest here. From hiding so much from his hyung and pushing Moon-young away, to being totally honest, not only to Sang-tae but also to Moon-young and himself.. wow, he has really grown. I'm glad to have witnessed that.
And Sang-tae being a hyung was heartwarming. Every little thing he did that day made me cry... Him checking Kang-tae's emotion on the board was really moving, and that was just the start.
Finally, the three are okay again. And they're so happy. That scene of them walking together was just so beautiful. Moon-young has found her family at last. My heart is full.
Of course, there's an impending problem and I'm worried for them, but I just want to appreciate this moment. I like seeing them happy because that's what they deserve =))
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9 RenOIshi
July 26, 2020 at 7:20 PM
I wrote it on my wall that this was my most favourite episode of all the dramas I have watched in my entire lifetime! It hit all the right spots. Healing, kindness, understanding, love. Everything! Beautiful ❤️
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10 Kelly-k
July 26, 2020 at 7:21 PM
I have so much to say and many reservations, but first let me get my thoughts together while not raining on anyone's parade...
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11 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
July 26, 2020 at 7:23 PM
Dudes should just move to a city like where I live. I haven't seen a butterfly in person for decades.
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BC
July 26, 2020 at 9:54 PM
😂That's so sad!!!😞🤧
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Kafiyah Bello
July 27, 2020 at 4:25 AM
It was probably a job location thing, it seems all the sanatorium and institutions are in thr Korean countryside, at least in dramas. Cities may also be too much stimulation for Sang Tae.
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parkchuna
July 27, 2020 at 5:57 AM
Hahaha i was wondering where in the world would they go that there are no butterflies..
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dogemama
July 27, 2020 at 7:55 AM
actually, i thought it didn't matter whether the butterflies were physically present. he had nightmares around that time of the year triggered by the onset of spring which signified the butterflies had "found" him, and it was the sole act of moving that brought him comfort, as if he is running away from them, and they wouldn't know where he went, hence the nightmares would stop. until next spring, when the nightmares begin again, and he thinks the butterflies once again "found" him.
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12 Jayne❤
July 26, 2020 at 7:28 PM
Okay....
It's so hard to control my emotion, I'm so ready to blabber about the episode.
THE KISS! It doesn't betray the strong emotions and intense feelings transpired between our otp. If anything, I would say the kiss is a literature kiss for drama.
Dramagods, study well!
Sang Tae being a hyung is....I just can't. The lunch, the allowance. My eyes were swollen so bad the next day after watching.
When he called Moon young to follow him...*MELT
A family is a family. No matter how weird and dysfuntion it is, it is something that everyone craves.
I've stopped mulling over why the rating is like that. It's one of the best in my over 10yrs history kdrama watching.
It's dramatically realistic and realistically dramatic. I wish we have more like this in future.
I hope it ends well and beautifully, though I'm sure I will be in withdawal syndrome when it's over.
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dogemama
July 27, 2020 at 7:57 AM
"literature kiss for drama" lol i love this!
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13 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
July 26, 2020 at 7:31 PM
That kinda fits. Park Jin-joo is 2 years older than SYJ. You need someone who knows more about kpop than I do to say whether she is the right age to be a fan of H.O.T
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CS
July 27, 2020 at 9:06 AM
Just going from my extensive knowledge of H.O.T. solely gained from watching Reply 1997... She probably would be about 40. The characters from that one who were big H.O.T. fangirls would be 40 now. They graduated from high school in 1999or 2000, if I remember correctly. I'd maybe go a little younger 38?
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14 misshoggy
July 26, 2020 at 7:36 PM
So much happiness that it felt so uneasy!! That kiss though... this episode should be renamed “Kang-tae, the beast unleashed, sorta.”
Moon-young has grown so much in her way of interacting with people. I strongly believe that her initial inability to empathise and socialise is stemmed from her mum’s grooming rather than innate emotional disability. That last scene though...creepy *shiver*
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15 Blue (@mayhemf)
July 26, 2020 at 7:42 PM
Sang-Tae opppaa!!!
Am so glad Kang Tae finally decided to fight for his Happiness and decided to be more honest with with brother. This episode was much needed after episode 10!
And boy that kiss!! His arms :). Also, KSH runs beautifully - just saying.
Now that our happy camping trio found a way together, the murder story is coming to the forefront. The basement light. Yikes!! That head nurse - she gives me the creeps.
Awesome job on the fast recaps. Need to watch the next episode before the recaps come out!!
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Kafiyah Bello
July 27, 2020 at 4:27 AM
Yasss, I too agree KSH has gorgeous running form. I thought I was the only one.
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books7time
September 4, 2020 at 10:55 PM
I never thought to describe his running as beautiful, but you are right. He has been an impressive runner since his Dream High Days. He still has that incredible speed.
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16 Mandy
July 26, 2020 at 7:48 PM
Oh my god this episode. I always say “this is the best episode so far” but damn I really do mean it this time. Seriously, that was just amazing.
I would talk about the kiss which was just boiling hot it could’ve been literal fire. But I’m just so invested in the brothers’ relationship so I’ll start off with that. Omg how great the fight was. I love that they were beating each other with pillows and that it wasn’t exactly a “serious” fight but something all siblings do. It was great that in the end, Kang-tae spoke about it with Jae-su while Sang-tae with Joo-ri and mom. I love that they both have no actual hard feelings over it and that even if Sang-tae called his brother a “stranger” (LOL), in reality, it both allowed them to be themselves. Such a great moment of character growth.
Also, I totally teared up with Sang-tae asked Kang-tae if he ate. That was the first time in 11 episodes. He never asks. That was my comment last week - that Sang-tae always seems hesitant to show emotions towards Kang-tae directly. I love that he showed courage to be Kang-Tae’s Hyung this time. I think Kang-tae was desperately waiting for that, yearning it and hoping it would happen one day. The fact that he dreamed of it, and Sang-tae fulfilled that dream (in his own way) the following day - there’s just a beautiful symmetry to that. How touched was Kang-tae there. KSH was just brilliant but so was OJS. They’re both simply nailing this.
Also, I just wanted to say how much I absolutely love love love the supporting characters in this drama. I always talk about the three leads but everyone else is so great too honestly. Joo-ri and Sang-in just aren’t “kinda” cute LOL. They are adoooorkable. So realistic and I totally see why Joo-ri would eventually fall for him. He’s somewhat cheesy, a bit silly but gosh he’s just so sincere. I also adore the relationship between Jae-su and Kang-tae, and how a girlfriend doesn’t make a best friend’s importance in life less. It’s funny when he called Jae-su his #3, but like Sang-in says, love comes in different forms. And ofc the two are important to Kang-tae, but so is Jae-su - he’s a huge part of Kang-Tae’s life and the first person he goes to when he wants to rant, don’t know what to do or simply need someone to talk to.
I believe everyone in the drama has a role to play in each other’s lives but that they’re also their own life’s “lead”. And I love that. They’re not there just for the leads. They have their own stories to tell, their own pains and happiness. It’s an awesome drama. I’ve had nothing to complain so far (and yes, this includes ep12 which was really great too and shows the growth and maturity of all these characters).
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Eazal
July 27, 2020 at 6:13 AM
It was such a beautiful moment when ST said the moment KT picked up the phone "Have you eaten?". Tears came to my eyes, and I could only think "It's the first time!!". My heart melt.
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17 dogemama
July 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM
idk how this show does it but somehow it almost always gets whatever it's trying to do just right. this is clearly the work of a writer who knows what they are doing, who came prepared and equipped to tell this special story. week after week, i am impressed by the depth and sensibility in the writing, in how our main characters are so beautifully complex and how the ties that bind them aren't easily undone.
framing the entire premise around fairy tales was such an inspired choice. it allows the story to embody innocence and simplicity while also bearing an ugliness that can be unforgiving. i have been asking myself recently, what does growing up even mean if it's not within the parameters of societal norms? isn't some part of us always going to be that child we once used to be? sang tae has a developmental disorder, but in a lot of ways, kang tae is much more of a child even as a full grown adult. sang tae is restrained by his design, but kang tae intentionally repressed his own growth. that moon young's stories speak to both of them shows the brothers are more similar than one might think. but they have had this veil between them all their lives, this conjecture that sang tae is different and should be handled with care, that he is not capable of taking care of himself. i love that this episode turned that on its head, and we got to see sang tae grow and flourish when given the chance. sang tae's breakdown was painful (and i'm sure its scarred kang tae for life), but it did afford the brothers an opening to remove the veil between them, to see one another in clear focus for the first time. they are finally at a place where they can choose to grow up if they so wish. this parallel character development is handled with so much heart, it really makes you root for them that much harder.
in more shallow news, that kiss was stunning, so raw and so electric. i think i can speak for the mass when i say kim soo hyun and seo yeji's chemistry is the stuff that kdrama dreams are made of! they're so good i'm halfway convinced they're hooking up irl too lollll
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 26, 2020 at 8:51 PM
Their chemistry is what made me scream in delight and say out loud "this is why you cast similar age people in dramas". Once I calm down I think I will go through 'the best/most realistic kisses in dramas' list to see where it ranks.
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dogemama
July 26, 2020 at 9:09 PM
do share your list when it's ready *eyes emoji*
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 1:58 AM
Danghyunhaji *wink wink*
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dee23
July 27, 2020 at 3:45 AM
I'll wait for the list. 😉
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Eazal
July 27, 2020 at 6:14 AM
Me too!!
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 9:52 AM
The list will be posted on Thursday after some crucial "Research" 😎
dogemama
July 27, 2020 at 8:30 AM
i feel like casting mismatches have really put young actresses at a disadvantage. there are many more high profile young actors than actresses today, and when these young actors are cast, they're often cast opposite established older actresses to up the appeal of the pairing. off the top of my head, i'm thinking of my love from the stars, encounter, i hear your voice. that in itself is not an issue, but this happens so often that almost all of the major "hallyu" hits in the past decade have featured older, already A-lister actresses, while their male counterparts are not restricted in the same way. i mean, really think about it, do we have a female equivalent of someone like park bogum whose talent is matched by their popularity? actresses like kim jiwon, lee sung kyung, park eun bin, park bo young, nam ji hyun, lee se young have so much to offer, but even successful projects don't seem to get them the same kind of attention that their male counterparts get.
all of this to say, i am so glad seo yeji was cast as go moon young, not only bc she's done such a kickass job of owning this character, but also bc she is finally getting the kind of recognition that is usually only reserved for young male heart throbs.
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CS
July 27, 2020 at 9:42 AM
And she's already 30. A lot of the young male heart throbs are 21-26. I was kinda curious when she was cast on just how she'd do. She was fantastic in Save Me, but that was a really different kind of role. I'm glad she's killing it! Hopefully she'll get cast more often.
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 9:57 AM
You have a good point. From the industry to the audience, everyone is definitely biased towards male actors which DO NOT surprise me considering how patriarchal the world still is.
I saw SYJ first in Moorim school. Then became her well-wisher after Save me. That drama is a gem. And NOW she has gained a full-on fan.
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WalexB
July 27, 2020 at 4:08 PM
«From the industry to the audience, everyone is definitely biased towards male actors which DO NOT surprise me considering how patriarchal the world still is.»
In case you haven't noticed, k-dramas are "chix flix" movies, they offer dream-fulfilment to women. The standard plot is that short, plain, poor, but nice and interesting eventually gets pursued by at least one, and often two, very hot, tall and rich jerks. More recently, angelic divorced single in the thirties, mother or not, gets fought over by often younger, hot, single men with excellent jobs. Therefore male leads are all-important, and k-drama female leads need to be short, cute-but-not-beautiful, normal-looking office or shop/restaurant girls.
It is refreshing to see k-dramas that try to deviate from the stereotypes, and here we have a poor, very hot guy being pursued by a rich, very hot jerk of roughly the same age. But the Sang-in Ju-Ri story is more stereotypical (as mother Nam's pushing of Ju-Ri towards Sang-in, who looks like an excellent catch, shows).
Mandy
July 26, 2020 at 9:05 PM
I really agree with this. Kang-tae is definitely a kid who grew up too fast and is trying too hard and pretending so desperately to be an adult. But he’s never had an adult to show him how to be one. He’s been forced into the role of an adult without him ever really wanting it. There’s still that 12 year old boy trapped in him till now and finally that kid in him is being allowed to grow up.
On the other hand, while Sang-tae might behave like a kid for reasons he can’t control, he’s the opposite of Kang-tae. He really wants to be an adult. No ones forcing him to take that role, he wants it all by himself and finally he’s gotten the courage to step up and take charge. It’s really such a beautiful character growth for both these boys. The feel like real people who exist somewhere in the world and we’re able to see parts of their life for a little while. I really want them happy.
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FiyaShady
July 26, 2020 at 10:54 PM
@mandy, you summarized it so well 👍👍👍. And also @dogemama, are you sure you are not one of DB's minion writer? 😁. I wish that I can also write up such a depth and creative literature like both of you. Honestly, I am so impressed whenever someone wrote so long comment here while I'm keeping up my vocabulary knowledge ✌😁.
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18 ennuhchennuh
July 26, 2020 at 7:52 PM
ahh KT running to give MY that hug, as @sailorjumun so accurately described, also took my breath away. I know we are dying at the kiss (bout frkn time skdjfak), but can we just talk about the moments leading up to it? THE. TENSION. the breathing. the eye contact. ** fans self LOL ** thank you drama gods for pairing KSH and SYJ up wow.
each week, I tell myself I'm going to exhibit self control and not watch the ep the day it comes out...but here i am. i'm saving some thoughts I have after watching ep 12, but just wanted to echo how important this ep (sizzling chem aside), for character devo--between KT and ST (that restaurant scene...i'm saying this again, but the way KSH can convey so much emotion with just his eyes...wow) & between our trio of the brothers & MY. I just want my babies to get the love and happiness they deserve plsss.
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19 k1000a
July 26, 2020 at 8:04 PM
OMG, THAT KISS! WHAT, HOW, WHY, GSISJSHHASUWGSUAHJSKW...
Ok... 1.......2.......3
It's been a while since my last comment, and am watching the episode right now but I just needed to get this out of my chest, hahaha. Back to the episode now.
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SailorJumun
July 26, 2020 at 9:12 PM
^^For real. After that scene, I had to pause my recap and take a breather.
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k1000a
July 26, 2020 at 9:45 PM
I KNOW! Just finished the episode and I swear am still a bit affected by that scene (what's wrong with me?!). Anywayyyyy... it was nice to see more 'happy' moments after last week's emotional turmoil, however this just feels like the calm before the storm.
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20 Dreamer205
July 26, 2020 at 8:28 PM
Rhat kiss was so swoon worthy!
You can't not give us a happy ending now after all that, show!
So much progress and development in this in this episode, and happiness which means by kdrama rule we already know what's looming for the next episode.
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Dreamer205
July 27, 2020 at 12:03 AM
That*
I really shouldn't be checking for updates on this show while on break at work. 😂
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21 MyNeighborTotoro
July 26, 2020 at 8:56 PM
Speculation: anyone recall in episode 1, how they made it a point to show the police gathering up Mun-Young’s knife as evidence, and the media said it’s under investigation whether the psychiatric patient died under suspicious circumstances?
They went out of the way to show all that, so I’m wondering if it’s going to come back and put Min-Young in trouble :/ Also makes me wonder if that man was actually killed by someone in the cast.
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Gabe
July 27, 2020 at 10:19 AM
I would posit that this incident, which was purposely highlighted, has more to do with the bigger question of whether MY's mom is still alive than it does it being linked to MY directly.
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22 CustardHopia
July 26, 2020 at 9:03 PM
Ahhhh my Sang-in x Joo-ri ship is sailing and mom is at the helm! "Stay out as late as possible" heee. Honestly though, Sang-in is quite the charmer, isn't he?
This episode was so heartwarming, especially when Sang-tae realized that Kang-tae was happy and began acting like an older brother, from asking if he already ate, to treating him to lunch, and even giving him an allowance. And to think the meal and allowance was probably a huge chunk off Sang-tae's life savings? *sniff*
But then Nurse Park's suspicious comments and the damn butterfly just had to dampen the mood.
P.S. I'm starting to think that Joo-ri isn't the second lead, but Jae-su is 🤣🤣🤣
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Mandy
July 26, 2020 at 9:13 PM
Sang-in is totally my type. He’s hilarious and when he’s embarrassed, he kinda just brushes it off. More than that, he’s super smooth tho. I totally adore his personality and the way he treats people in general (even his frenemy relationship with Seung-jae is just ❤️ lol).
And yes! Must’ve cost Sang-tae a fortune and yet he did. If he looked at Kang-tae in that specific moment, he’d have been a happy Kang-tae awake. KSH’s eyes literally shone with utter happiness.
Lastly, poor poor Jae-su 😂 (I’ll have you!!)
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Eazal
July 27, 2020 at 6:19 AM
I wouldn't mind having a SangIn for myself. I really like him. As in Encounter, Kim Joo Hun is making his character really attractive!
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Mandy
July 27, 2020 at 6:30 AM
I haven’t seen encounter - actually this is the first time I’ve seen this actor in. But he’s not only charming but also really effective. He’s basically the perfect oppa (as in big bro oppa lol). I’m an instant fan!
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CustardHopia
July 27, 2020 at 6:40 AM
I had to do a triple take because Sang-in seemed familiar, so imagine my surprise upon learning that he's the formidable Park Min-guk of Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim 2.
I hope Kim Joo-hun will get a lead role someday. I'm all for it.
Now I'm off to find clips of him in Encounter @eazal haha.
CS
July 27, 2020 at 9:51 AM
Encounter was done by the same director and while the shows are very different, I can really tell that they are the product of the same lens.
Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 26, 2020 at 9:24 PM
Jae su definitely is the second lead 🤣
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Eazal
July 27, 2020 at 6:20 AM
More like... JaeSu FEELS like he is the second lead, hehe.
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CustardHopia
July 27, 2020 at 6:44 AM
HAHAHA YES!!! He's the one pouting that he knew Kang-tae first, whining that he's being disregarded, sulking that Kang-tae's not spending more time with him. I feel like they gave him the clingy second FL attributes and he's just having a blast with it.
But on a serious note, I think I need a friend like Jae-su.
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Eazal
July 27, 2020 at 6:50 AM
Every one should have a friend like Jae Su and like Sang In. Both of them know their friends, understand them, support them and are by their side when needed. Both KT and MY know they have them and don't act as stupid abusers on friends. They know they can trust them and they are a safe port to go when there's trouble. They give and they receive.
Mandy
July 27, 2020 at 7:46 AM
“But on a serious note, I think I need a friend like Jae-su.“
YES x ♾
Everyone should have a friend like Jae-su. He’s a 2am friend - someone who’d drop anything at anytime if you ever need them. I love his character actually and I hope in the final quarter of this drama, we can see his history with Kang-tae now that Moon-young and Joo-ri looks to be getting their closure and working towards becoming genuinely good friends in the future.
Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 10:17 AM
The weirdest part is that I am a real-life Jae Su when it comes to both of my Best friends. The jealousy, loyalty, nitpicking, chaotic fun all included, and then some more.
Mannn.... After reading @eazal -s comment I just realized my best friends are two lucky bitches to have me, aren't they? Now imma go and bombard them with this question "who do you like more me or *enter their favorite persons' names*"
FiyaShady
July 26, 2020 at 10:06 PM
1 vote for Mom 😆... although I would never say that towards my own daughters 🙈
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CustardHopia
July 27, 2020 at 6:49 AM
How about when they're almost 30, single, and still pining for a crush that will never be reciprocated, and then here comes this sweet guy trying to win their affection...? Hehe 😊
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CS
July 27, 2020 at 9:54 AM
My husband always teases our daughters that they can't date until they're 30, but I tease him right back that he'll change his tune if they are really 30 and haven't dated or met anyone to love.
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LemonyLite
July 27, 2020 at 3:44 AM
Sang-Tae spending so much of his precious money on the meal and allowance was so tough for me to watch... it was such a sweet gesture!
As for the second lead thing... um... I've been getting some low key queer vibes from Jae-Su from the beginning. I think they made him deliberately ambiguous in that regard but maybe that's just me. :)
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 10:18 AM
Well, I really think Jae su is just the best kind of best friend who is overcaring.
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23 Tee
July 26, 2020 at 9:05 PM
This gotta be my fave episodes!!!
THE KISS OMG THE KISS!!! I didn't expect we're gonna get it this episode but my oh my, that's one hot, steamy makeout sesh! Happy birthday indeed, MY!!!
I love when they have the talk the next morning because a lot of K-drama tend to brush off the serious issue with lovey-dovey scene and call it quits. It's something that needs to be brought up so they all can be together.
I melt into a puddle of goo at that scene where ST realizes KT's happiness and he wants to do the big brother role for a change. So much growth aww. Also the part where they fight, KT let go off his feeling to protect his brother and let him show off his true self. Then he told Jaesu that he feels relieved not sorry after the fight. That's one step forward for their relationship to progress!!!
The ending ahhhh I was worried when ST didn't call MY but I'm beaming when he called out her name. He finally accepts MY into his family aww <3
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24 Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 26, 2020 at 9:07 PM
If any of you have fought with your siblings you would know how relatable and honest that fighting scene was. My elder sister and I used to get into physical fights a lot when we were little, most times just to amuse ourselves or play with each other, but other times to resolve issues as they did. Yes, it wasn't exactly the Moon brothers' situation for us two, but I really felt it when Kang Tae said he feels so elevated after having an actual fight with ST and not a beat up from the latter. I wish we could do the same and not just reason things out inside our heads and hearts...
And as much as I love KSH, I have to give the MVP title to Oh Jung Se in this episode. If this was a movie he definitely would have won the best male actor award for his spectacular performance. I am glad I saw When Camellia blooms while it was airing cause now I can appreciate OJS better.
BTW Raise your hand, if any of you instantly replayed the kiss scene in your heads when Kim Soo Hyun overreacted to the "Netflix and chill" mission given in the Jenga game by the swoon.
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FormAnOrderlyQueue
July 26, 2020 at 9:11 PM
hahahahahah! Hand raised...
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Mandy
July 26, 2020 at 9:18 PM
OJS was out-of-this-planet amazing this episode. Specially when he realized Kang-tae was truly happy. Has anyone ever won 2 Baeksangs for the same category in a row? Because OJS is about to...
Also, his real life amusement park activity with one of his fan is the sweetest and nicest thing I’ve seen a celeb do all year. He’s totally MVP for this episode (tho he’s passed the baton to KSH again in the next 😂). They’re playing tag right now lol.
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 2:01 AM
That story really touched my heart. He really did a fantastic and humble thing by going out as Sang Tae. Best wishes to OJS and his future.
I think KSH and OJS have been playing tag since the 1st episode. It's been a real delight to see them tell a story of two brothers.
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Mandy
July 27, 2020 at 4:26 AM
I love the romance of this drama which boasts of some of the most intense chemistry I’ve seen in a while. (Maybe since YFAS lol).
But to me, this drama is poignant, epic and meaningful because of the familial relationship throughout. The brothers’ story is in the centre of it. I love their relationship and the idea that “love” itself is ambiguous, sometimes grey, often hurtful and difficult. It’s sometimes difficult to care because your family can hurt you like no one else can - sometimes through words, sometimes through emotions. And sometimes you just want to give it up and run away. Yet when all is said and done, you love each other anyway so you get up and try again. It’s a beautiful message said in the most simplest way with their relationship. I’m really quite invested (I think that’s a bit obvious now 😂)
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 10:11 AM
ahhh.... the ways you reflect my thoughts mandy!
YFAS gained me as a crazy fan because they got me invested in an unrealistic love story between an alien and a celebrity in the most realistic way. And they layered the story with necessary tropes in the most non-lame way possible.
On the other hand, IOTNBO made me obsessed with it by taking real emotions and life incidents only to show us the humane side of them. What you said is right. Only last month I was talking with my best friend and asked "Why parents and their actions hurt us the most? Is it because they love us the most or we love them the most? Or is it because we expect a lot from them?" This drama partly answered my questions. And I love it for being honest (the way a drama can be) so far.
I have rewatched YFAS 10 times, I can only wonder how many times IOITNBO will be rewatched (given the condition that it ends well like YFAS).
Mandy
July 27, 2020 at 10:41 AM
@playstore
Really second those comments in regards to parents. Family always has the biggest hold on us, I believe. We can’t really choose them, and honestly, sometimes we don’t even like them - but we always love them. And I think this point is so well highlighted in this drama. Sometimes I feel there are moments when both Kang-tae and Sang-tae don’t really like each other. But never have they not loved each other.
During the time Kang-tae ran away as a kid, he didn’t like his brother at all. But it was his love that brought him back imo. The guilt came later knowing what he did was so wrong. But his split decision to run back was driven by love. Ugh. I could go on but about 10 comments ago, I promised to stop 😂
And I hope this drama ends well🤞 There is a school of thought that YFAS didn’t have a happy ending (!!) and I’m still baffled by that. It was the most perfect ending I’ve ever seen with “there was once a rabbit who made his way back home” + the extended epilogue. If we can have something even half as awesome as that, I think I’d be satisfied ❤️
Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 10:51 AM
I wasn't here back in yfas time but HOW DID THIS SCHOOL EXIST??? YFAS has one of the nicest ending I have ever seen in dramaland. It wasn't ambiguous like Goblin, it wasn't open with unanswered questions like signal. It wasn't forced like most romcom ending tends to be... Ok, I should really do the butterfly hug right now to contain my feelings.
IOTNBO has nailed the part about love and resentment towards our core blood linked family members. Parents and siblings are the two most mysterious and complex relationships to exist in this world. Just thinking about episodes 4 and 10 makes me want to hug my mother and sisters.
Mandy
July 27, 2020 at 11:46 AM
@playstore
It wasn’t such a big school 😂. Mostly just a small day care. But I think the questions swirled about the fact that Min-Joon couldn’t stay “forever” with Song-yi and that eventually she will grow old and he wouldn’t. But honestly, he was already in earth for 2 years and the rule is it will always be longer. And he will grow old because he keeps leaving the planet. Anyway, I don’t get the complains myself I must admit. It was just perfection to me.
The thing I hate about “perfect close ended” endings are that it feels as though these characters weren’t real and they only lives within then timeframe we saw them on screen. I hate those kind of endings most. I want to believe that these characters are loving on, and while we can’t peek into their lives, they are happy and existing somewhere in the world (and yes, maybe I blatantly stole that line from a certain show 😂😂)
I genuinely hope this drama can end in a beautiful note too. *forms prayer circle*
Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 11:54 AM
Hmmmm now what drama could that be from which you stole the lines, I only wonder 😅
BTW I agree with your comment about endings that lets the characters live on. That way I get to create an imaginary world where they can exist.
And there's no doubt I'm going in your prayer circle. IOTNBO needs to end well for me to survive this pandemic. I was depressed AF in April May, just regained myself back after June 20th. I don't wanna be crushed at the end of this drama.
Mandy
July 27, 2020 at 4:31 AM
Oh and yes! If we don’t see KSH and OJS’s reunion next year at the Baeksang Awards. If we don’t see them *at least* getting nominated, imma go and fly to SK and have some serious talk (of the literal type 😂) with these organizers.
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 10:11 AM
Count me in!
dee23
July 27, 2020 at 3:52 AM
🙋
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sirena
July 27, 2020 at 8:48 AM
The kiss scene will be forever branded in my mind 😍
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
July 27, 2020 at 11:55 AM
You're not alone
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WalexB
July 27, 2020 at 4:17 PM
«Yes, it wasn't exactly the Moon brothers' situation for us two, but I really felt it when Kang Tae said he feels so elevated after having an actual fight with ST and not a beat up from the latter.»
One of the standard features of k-dramas is horrible mothers for male roles, which show that at least in some respect they are fairly realistic. In this series mother Moon was horrible to Kang-tae, as the flashbacks show, being only every interested in Sang-tae. IIRC at some point there someone at some point said that the Moon brothers are not genetic brothers, they just share the family name, and this could explain it. In Episode 12 there is the horrifying reveal of why mother Moon was killed by mother Ko, and that may be relevant.
There is the terrible possibility that Kang Tae is the genetic brother or even twin brother of Moon Young. Or perhaps it is Sang Tae who is her genetic brother.
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Aidualc
July 27, 2020 at 4:47 PM
There's no way the writers will make Kang Tae to be Moon Young's brother, zero chance of it after showing us that kiss, it would be too weird and this is not "Game of Thrones". If Moon Young has a brother it's Sang Tae. I have not seen episode 12 but my theory is that Sang Tae was raised by Kang Tae's mother based on that talk about Dooly and his dinosaur fake mom. Also based on the ugly duckling story, I believe Sang Tae was given up by Moon Young's mother because he was not perfect,she mentioned to child Moon Young that she is perfect like mom.
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Vespertyne29
July 28, 2020 at 1:14 AM
There have been too many hints about mothers raising children who are not their own to overlook the possibility that Kang-Tae and Sang-Tae may not be biological brothers.
However, I’m pretty sure there is no way Kang-Tae and Moon-Young are related. Kdramas don’t play around with real incest when it comes to a lead couple in a drama like this, and that passionate kiss just wouldn’t have happened.
I would be very surprised if Sang-Tae ended up being someone other than his mother’s child. It seems more likely that Kang-Tae would be the unrelated one, considering the way he was treated. And that comment their mother made about the reason Kang-Tae was born was to be a caretaker for his brother seems odd. I don’t think it’s just Kang-Tae’s selective memory when it comes to how his mother treated him, because when Sang-Tae was talking to Nurse Park about mothers, and she mentioned his mother being a good mother, his response was to become uncomfortable and withdraw, after responding that his mother was a good mother to him, but not to Sang-Tae. Again, that seems very odd if Sang-Tae were not her actual child. If Kang-Tae is not related to Sang-Tae by blood, I have no idea whose child he would be, but I really can’t see him being related in any way to Moon-Young. That’s just too creepy for kdramaland, and would also be totally out of place in how the story has progressed.
But there’s definitely big hints to cast doubt on the brother’s biological relationship.
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Sleepless
August 1, 2020 at 1:28 AM
After ST revealed his memories, I thought that Moon Mom had been employed by Ko Dad to be MY’s caregiver. That’s why she told ST that she will be working late and that ST will go home with GT. And maybe Ko Mom found out and killed Moon Mom to prevent that from happening, someone else looking after her child.
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25 candilane
July 26, 2020 at 9:08 PM
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26 candilane
July 26, 2020 at 9:11 PM
FIrst, I want to say I am so completely and utterly PROUD of my boy for hitting his brother back. Sang Tae has to change and accept that Kang Tae does not belong to him. I literally started screaming YES!!!!!! and Finally!! because that fight was overdue. Kudos to the writers because that scene was brilliant. I was so ridiculously happy and I literally was smiling throughout this entire episode. Kang Tae coming out of his shell and being more himself is like a breath of fresh air. I already loved the show but seeing his character change so beautifully makes me fall in love with the show all over again.
I don't know about Park Ok Ran because she may be her mothers relative or sister. She doesnt seem like the mom but I am not 100% sure. Kang Tae and Moon Young are just the cutest thing.. and Kang Tae's real smile is too beautiful to behold. The plot was good, I wish they continued doing the voiceover for the stories.. I love that part of the show but this episode made me happy😍🥰
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LemonyLite
July 27, 2020 at 3:47 AM
I also have the theory that Nurse Park is somehow related (not necessarily but possibly in the blood sense) to MY's Mom.
She's definitely acting more and more suspicious but if she actually were MY's Mother then why lay low for soooooo long?
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candilane
July 27, 2020 at 4:18 AM
Nurse Park is super suspicious and far scarier to me than Park Ok Ran
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candilane
August 1, 2020 at 9:42 AM
HOLY SHISHABOBS!!!!!!! YES!!!!!
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27 FiyaShady
July 26, 2020 at 9:44 PM
Yeay, super fast recap @sailorjumun 🥰
Such a satisfying episode. From Moon brothers fighting scene, quirky notion from Director O, Sang Tae showing her "brotherly" side, sweet dreaming of KT about flirting with girl in uniform to warm-hearty scene of MY, ST and KT walking altogether 🥰🥰🥰. Truly a heart filling moment, more powerful than those kisses one.
Now we are left with their entwined bad fate...obviously MY mom is related to KT&ST mother's murder case. Just 2 weeks left before finale, I really hope for the best (even though I know they might not touching any more deeper about mental healingness).
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28 tehci
July 26, 2020 at 9:45 PM
Greatest winner was Oh Jung Se in this episode.. acting was on-point and splendid.
The interactions, regardless they were fighting, chatting or just watching each other, between the moonbros were those of healing, honesty and love.. truly touching.
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FiyaShady
July 26, 2020 at 10:59 PM
He is the winner for this week. Both eps 11 and 12 is top notch acting from OJS. He's truly potraying ST character so well and raising the bar of this drama so highhhh👏👏👏
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29 BC
July 26, 2020 at 9:51 PM
About that highschool dream - did KT go to some highschool at all? They've been moving every spring to different places and maybe police was looking for them after their escape because they were orphans. I can't imagine how they've been living, KT was only 12.
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panshel
July 26, 2020 at 11:59 PM
This was my question as well. So Kang-tae never went to school? Then did he take the GED?
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kakakash
July 27, 2020 at 1:17 AM
Yea think so. Really puts it all into perspective
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Eazal
July 27, 2020 at 6:26 AM
He must have gone to school.
I think what they did was this: as ST was probably over 20, he would be, while he was a still a child his "tutor" so he could go to school. I don't know how it goes in SK and when you can apply to professional school to learn a profession, but I guess the moment he got his qualifications it wasn't complicated to find a job.
After all, at least in my country, hospitals really fight over qualified personel.
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kiara
July 27, 2020 at 1:16 AM
I think he did to be able to become a nurse aid/caregiver. There has to be some kind of health care training too.
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BC
July 27, 2020 at 1:26 AM
He isn't a nurse, he's just a ward, so you have little training before you start to work, especially in psychiatric hospital where not many people are eager to work.
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kiara
July 27, 2020 at 1:59 AM
I didn’t say he was a nurse but a nurse aide as in nurse assistant or CNA.
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BC
July 27, 2020 at 2:36 AM
Sorry, nurse aid... It depends on each country, I don't know the system I SK, I can compare only within countries I've lived so far. Nurse and nurse aid need to have a highschool diploma + minimum 3 years of studying in European countries. Throughout those three years you are trained in all of the departments and you decide finally where you'll go to work. Than there's kind of hospital ward/help where's no education required. When they're learning fast and are good at it they often finish working as nurse aid without qualification and with less salary.