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Open Thread #666

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Little Boy - 715l 19 August

Harsh weeks. I had not slept for 2 straight days. hoo, i'm alive

2017-2018 - i watched tv dramas and worked from 12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 am, cooked and eat food at all those specific hours on different occasions. That experience helped to get through this week's 2 days.
A casual viewer watching a kdrama at 4am on dramafever, and then someone with prejudice say i'm against a specific country's tv entertainment.

Real life happenings across the world are far more
re entertaining. The only tv drama for the 2nd half of 2020 about to start soon. Hope to see far more protests in upcoming season. There must be some action in real world, government beating its own citizens is a sight to watch.

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Formality of kindness is fake kindness and that comes off easily from facemasks. Even trump as a liar looks better human being compared to such identities who create a fake social atmosphere.

I don't view,check,like,share,follow Social media of any celebrities from any sphere of profession or field.
Fandom aka fans are obsessed identities who occasionally stalk personalities they are unhealthily interested. So no normal person would like to associate with such creatures.
Celebrities are a type of labour that can be easily compensated aka exchanged. Entertainment industry is very uncertain career. huge competition and fair amount of exploitation. 1 go and within a day someone else takes that place. huge supply but not as much demand. Actors,idols, singers, bands are abundance in market. you go for 1 and find 100s of them. That's what real world is for you.

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Fandom aka fans are obsessed identities who occasionally stalk personalities they are unhealthily interested. So no normal person would like to associate with such creatures.

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No no no. Don't call anyone who have associated with me as 'not normal'. They are very much normal just like me. Hmph 🥺

Have you ever been a fan of anything? Try it once, you might end up having fun. But don't go crazy sasaeng though, take note...that's a big fan no-no 📝.

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Such self-awareness. ahem

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You sound so miserable, your reviews are usually very jaded and it's sad to see. I hope you find some joy in life.

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The pandemic is going to have lasting effects on the global entertainment industry. Disney has decided to push back for more than a year a release of this summer's blockbusters, including Mulan and Star Wars franchise films. With the second surge of cases in California, Hollywood has been unable to truly open studio productions.
South Korea also is worried about new virus spikes but its television and limited movie productions are moving forward with some bumps in the road. SK public controls (masks, distancing, etc) are still a gold standard but nothing is fool proof. The series about post-pregnancy center has been moved from August to November launch (rumors from virus issue to script re-writes).
It is strange to watch empty US baseball parks with players not social distancing during games. One player recently said he got over the virus but he is still not the same. Some experts believe the virus can cause permanent lung damage. That is why many athletes have decided not to play; it is not worth the risk.
When you produce a drama or film, a set contains a lot of people in close contact. I think many actors are thinking CF endorsements are a better option (less people in photoshoots) than risking health for a three or six month daily schedule.
I think it will take to the end of 2021 before some normalcy returns to the global entertainment industry.

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I do really appreciate being able to see the kdramas. But I also worry about the people making these for us as they are taking some serious risks. I do hope that they are actively testing crew and actors and doing everything they can to prevent the virus. It would be a horrible thing if any of these people have to suffer just to bring "us" (global viewers) entertainment.

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I think the same thing. When I see a street scene or crowded restaurant scene, I wonder if they had everyone take their masks off to film it? I hope they are being safe, but I have heard that filming sets can be really toxic even in the best of times with over work and crazy schedules.

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Whenever I see a kiss scene now, I wonder about whether the actors are okay with it. I used to really look forward to the first kiss in a show, or a really good kiss, but now they give me pause. I'd prefer the actors stay safe. We can get our romantic feels through hand-holding (?).

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@rareniva Hahaha, I hear ya! How about some really intense eye contact? That seems safest at this point. I love a good longing glance!

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I am incredibly impressed by the K-industry at how well they are holding up and keeping things continue like the past while taking the highest precaution. They deserve praise. On another hand prayers for all the cast and crew's safety. These new dramas are what is keeping my sanity these days.

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I noticed a number of dramas not set in Seoul this year and with almost no daytime exterior shots, unless it the countryside or an alleyway that nobody frequents. South Korea had 13,000 confirmed cases and 298 deaths. Compare that to the US with 4 million cases and one hundred forty seven thousand deaths. That's the benefit of a country having normalized the use of face masks in public years ago.

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Exactly. The eastern nations had made it almost an unspoken custom to wear masks due to fine dust and pollution since things worsened after 2010. Now they're benefitting from accepting the present and doing what can be done to minimize fatality.

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I thought S. Korea had a run-in with a virus several years ago too. I got a mask pattern from a website/video tutorial from earlier in the 2010s, and it mentioned a virus in 2012-2013.

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@rareniva they've had both SARs and MERs outbreaks which made them a lot more prepared and I think a lot more proactive.

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It’s going to be interesting to see how the creative industry manages, and whether (Or when) plots will start referencing the pandemic. I think we’ll see a lot more small casts globally so everyone can quarantine together. And filming tightly to one location.

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!

I was gone for four days, I missed one OT, and yet it feels like I came back from a parallel universe.😆 My K-drama friend and I spent last Friday to Monday evening at another friend’s apartment for a local city trip under strict covid19 regulations. Since we managed to avoid lodging and transport expenses we decided to spent those on some shopping and food. My friend knows her way around her city and cheap menu deals, so we often went out for a big breakfast/brunch or three course dinners. We also walked around most of the time, so I hope we burned all the calories!😅

Normally I can smoothly readjust to hermit mode afterwards, but an important job exam yesterday and the amount of preparation time beforehand left me with little time to unwind, unpack and catch up on Dramabeans and other stuff. Fortunately I have no weekend plans, so I have three days to rest and catch up before the next busy week starts. I cannot talk about catching up without mentioning K-dramas, so…Into The Ring.🤣While I was supposed to be packing for my city trip among many other things last week, I decided to Goo Sera my way through all the 4 aired episodes at that time and then fret about the little time I had left to pack and finish everything and the huge amount of time I would have to wait to catch up from episode 5 onwards…🤣

I might miss next OT and WWAW again, because we are having another sleepover at my friend’s apartment for her belated birthday party with other mutual friends. I have no idea whether I will be leaving on Friday or Saturday yet, so see you all in August!😊

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Just some thoughts this hot and steamy morning.

The last year has been rough. The last seven months, well, even without all of waves vaguely at the world, has been something like a hellish landscape. So, with my life descending into the worst of the worst makjang family drama (sans a contract killing, but I’m not writing that one off yet), I’ve been a little ragey of late. Once lockdown loosened up a bit, and I began to venture out for essentials and such, I’ve found my ability to mingle with humans has become, well, not great. The constant simmering rage about the current situation is not helping.

But you know what does help? When someone, usually a stranger, performs a small act of courtesy or kindness. Giving way to make space on the sidewalk, an offering of hand sanitizer, or even the simple act of holding a door open. It’s the small things that somehow push through the dark clouds hovering in my headspace.

While I do thank them in that moment, my thanks might seem stilted, or quiet, or not quite enthusiastic enough, but I don’t think they do it for a resounding high five and a metaphorical public medal of civic achievement. I know when I’m performing these small acts, I do it because I live in a community of humans, and within communities acts of civility make us better both individually and collectively. Now, do I really put that much thought into the actual physical act of holding a door open for someone coming behind me, or when I smile and say thank you to the cashier? No, of course not.

What I do try to do, is live my life in such a way that I respect and treat others in the way I hope they do to me. My underlying rage at the world is all the more reason for me and for you to consciously treat each other with some kindness. Whether the person is paid to serve us, or is just doing a kindness out of the blue, a nod, a smile, and thank you creates small moments that will accumulate and reverberate long after that one moment.

Now, about that contract killer… Just kidding. Maybe…

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As someone who seems to have had a very similar seven months to you, can I say that sometimes YOU'RE that little island of hope in an infuriating and relentlessly cruel landscape? Sometimes just reading the comments of people and the others here is a comfort.

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I identify, especially with the inability to mingle with human beings (pre- and post-Covid).

Example: I went to the supermarket, and there were a few people waiting in a queue to wash their hands before entering (I go to that supermarket precisely because they enforce hand-washing). Anyway, a lady with several bags tried to cut in front of me in the queue. I was raging inside and thinking of cutting things to say, but I decided to be nice and said "you first". Her face lighted up like I gave her a chocolate and she apologised and thanks me profusely, because she was carrying so many things you see and it's hard to wash your hands like that. I felt at peace then.

Anyway. Yes. I could be selfish and blind to the rest of the world and save myself 10 seconds, or I can be considerate knowing that I might need a kind word or gesture at some point too.

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small acts like you said, are things that made me genuinely happy in recent months.
I might be the giving end or the receiving end, but in either condition, I exchanged smiles and gratitudes with the other person.
It’s okay to stay positive that humanity is still surviving.

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I've been living in silence for a while..so my hermit life hasn't quite changed. I do miss my english dance group tho. Which was my only tether to larger community. Not an isolationist or even an introvert. Just someone who got used to hermiting long before the Rona came. Also, having a wonderful park beside us has made life normal. We could just go outside and walk the park as usual...except for the masks we're wearing.

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Being the introvert I am, this has not been that different from ordinary life. Plus, I really really try to stay away from news politicizing the situation. Plus, I'm doing piano lessons via Skype, which has actually made me a better more organized teacher. The only "act of kindness" I can manage is being kind to my students and parents.
However - last weekend I almost made myself sick from getting so angry. At the mega-church around the corner from me. Why? Because the selfish, arrogant, idiotic pastor has let his little power trip go to his head. He insisted the gov't couldn't tell him what to do, they were having in church services, (finger in your face) because he has a God-given mandate to do - whatever? Be thoughtless? Be selfish? Is this "Christian"? Whatever, hundreds of people went to church even though our area has had a huge spike in cases and more people my age have died. And these people most likely go to the same grocery store where I do my shopping once a week, early in the am, with a mask because it's required. I was absolutely livid.
At my grocery store (upscale/expensive) one man (according to a clerk I talked to) tried to enter w/o a mask and yelled at the clerk who told him he couldn't come in. The angry male tried to prove it was his God-given right to do whatever, that gov't couldn't tell him what to do. He was so angry. Now, where did he get the thought that made him see wearing a mask is a mark of "freedom"? Anyway, the manager had to remind him this was a private business and they have the right to require masks.
Acts of kindness - hmm, I did go feed my friend's kitty when she was out of town. Other than that I rarely see humans. Only cats...

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I hope that on a personal level at least things get less difficult because I don’t see this virus going away any time soon.

I think there’s so much to be said for courtesy (I’d say common courtesy but sadly - not that common). Just because someone is being paid to serve you (eg cashier) doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to be responded to when they greet you/thanked at the end. They’re not a machine.

I live in a country where the virus is being caught by border quarantine (after we stamped it out locally with a long and extremely strict lockdown) and I am really appreciating things I once took for granted like leaving my house, and small interactions with others. Saying hi when you pass someone out walking, that kind of thing.My baby no longer screams when she sees unfamiliar people (as she did when we first unlocked). Periodically we get people who think the rules shouldn’t apply to them breaking out of quarantine and the rage comes out. It’s a minor inconvenience (2 weeks) for such a great gain - think of other people! Think of the bigger picture! If people spent more time thinking of others the world would be a better place.

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U are so right about the common courtesy that is quite fading..I always take my time to thank and wish them an easy day at work every time a go buy anything no matter who it is,it's already ingraned in me and i reraly miss to say it...
In my country there are way too mnay entitled people who think they are above the laws or that the Goverment is stupid for forcing them to do all this little thing and how they dare ask them to wear masks,that the whole Corona is a conspiracy or that they fake the numbers to get more money from the European Union,that it's illegal to fine them(it's something that was proven in my country) and so on that makes me quite angry even more when no matter what u say doesn't matter as they just don't care because they want to do what they want...Like this people prefer to believe in conspiracies(i mean they believe everything is one and they know better than most)than to accept some decent laws...It is a special period that means special cautiouns yet they still want to live free like till now because rules aren't for them nor actually ever been much seen as a country and only stupid ones abide by it because they dare to respect others and themselves...

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The number of stories you see that are “I didn’t think it was real until it happened to me” .....it’s just mind boggling really. Another is when people seem to be taking the attitude that it only kills old people so it’s fine (to which, that is a) not true and b) NOT FINE).

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That as well,it's disgusting the hate i see for old people...

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how about a contract cougher...

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I'll give you a call....

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"Now, do I really put that much thought into the actual physical act of holding a door open for someone coming behind me...?"

I saw some Koreans react to that practice with surprise. Holding the door open is not common at all in Korea. In 'Oh My Baby' there was a subplot about a woman getting angry at a man for holding the door open for her 'American-style' because she said it was sending her confusing signals about whether he liked her. She spent the whole series mistaking common courtesy for affection.

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Interesting point about the way the body language gets mistranslated. From the perspective of an outsider, opening a door for someone means nothing more than common decency, while I would react to something like opening the car door or draping a coat over me - just because I'm chilly or got wet - as unnecessarily invasive.

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Which is an interesting point, that common courtesies are cultural.

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Which makes common courtesy not so common afterall...

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It is interesting. Not the car door, but my mom always expected my brother and I to hold the door for whoever was behind us. Thinking about it I'd say I notice it less, especially with men for women. Or maybe there is just more automatic doors, lol. But in the 80s and 90s when I was a child and teen I can remember men, especially of a certain generation, opening and holding the door for me.
But I've also heard someone from the south say that her husband always opens the door, car too, for her and their daughter and expects of their son too.

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I have real problems with automatic doors refusing to open for me 😂 Apparently I don’t register as a person.

For me the natural thing is if the person is close enough behind me (or has full hands) then I hold the door open. I would only open a car door for someone who couldn’t open it themselves (eg full hands, is a child). Basically helping if it’s going to be inconvenient for them but not just doing it.

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True. It is usually considered good (gentleman) manners to open doors for a lady, whether car or buildings... Maybe that wasn't a good example.

Ok, second try: I've only ever seen grown ups buckle their seat-belt for each other in kdramas. It's a considerate gesture for them I think? Though it's also typically A Romantic Moment... 🤔

It's Friday evening and I'm reflecting on cultural language in kdramas instead of watching dramas LOL. #Beanielife

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@wishfultoki yes, that I would find weird and awkward. I'd probably be thinking to remember to not accept rides with them in the future.

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@wishfultoki someone buckling someone else’s seatbelt is pretty unusual to me, that’s a good one. It made me wonder if having to wear seatbelts was relatively new in Korea (or if it’s even required). I notice that in a lot of older dramas people don’t wear them, especially if sitting in the back.

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@beffels Ooh...you might be right! My grandmother refuses to wear a seat belt and spends the whole ride clinging to the roof handle as if she's on public transportation (even though I'm going at a snail's pace). The struggle is real. 🤣

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I find that super creepy tbh. Like you're 6 and can't do it for yourself.

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Someone had mentioned that on the podcast 'K-drama My Eyes Out', the K-drama 'romantic' practice of buckling another person's seat belt. Which she felt was one of several weird and creepy K-drama tropes. The other was cutting up the steak on your plate then switching plates with your date..

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Yes!!! It is actually entering someone's personal space and I find that weird and that cutting the steak part.

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I guess it should also take into it the personality of some people as the type who would think even the smallest gesture means intrest by the other sex when u are just nice or have manners...

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And acceptable social norms can also trigger some of these. While it is a common courtesy in the part of Europe where we stay to greet everyone (even strangers) on our way to bus stop or those who are standing with you on bus stop, this can cause a serious problem if replicated in the part of Asia I originally come from.

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I just read your comment in a Maggie Smith tone 😂
Anyway, wishing you a great weekend and hoping for more light to cast the dark clouds away.

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I hope everyone reads all my comments in the Maggie Smith tone. This made my week. Thank you!

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For my sake, you could put a disclaimer on your posts: "please read in a Maggie Smith tone, thank you."

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I love Violet Crawley in Downton that is why it is so much fun reading your comments in Maggie Smith tone. I forgot Dame Judi’s beanie name (I’m sorry!) but I read his/her comments in Judi’s tone as well 😆

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@leetennant's posts should also be read in the voice of Dame Judi Dench.

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Either that or Aughra. Probably more Aughra, completely with complaining moans of pain if I have to move my limbs.

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This reminded me of being at the grocery store one time and as I was picking out some produce a woman started walking of with my cart and purse. I just walked up to her and said something like, excuse me that is my cart. She became very flustered and I'd say anxious, more than was warranted for what I saw as a simple mistake. I reassured her that it was all fine and she quickly walked over to her cart and away. Her husband then walked over to me and quickly told me something along the lines of a thank you and that kindness means a lot.

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The smallest social kindness, however formulaic, can make a huge difference to your day. It costs little to grease the wheels of interactions with strangers and can make an immeasurable difference. I know it makes a difference to me. I personally hate talking to strangers in retail interactions but with people being so horrible during the pandemic I've tried to make an extra effort to be kind and respectful to people in stores in particular. And I appreciate it when I get back the same.

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I hear that The Truck of Doom is looking for work...

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Brilliant idea! @sincerelytod?

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I hate it when someone argues that 'no one said anything when...and why are people say anything now' or 'that there are so many other things bad in the world so why are you saying anything about this' etc. Like even when pointed out that's not really true they find some excuse to say it. Just say you don't have any actual argument to make and move on. Nothing gets solved this way. Thank goodness some people didn't think like that before doing anything for change. Otherwise nothing would change for the better. I don't care if something else happened somewhere else or in the past and not many said anything then. All the more reason to say something now not less.

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Whoa! Someone is having a bad day.
More please

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Its called whataboutism bro.
That's what right wing and its supporters employ when you want to have meaningful discussion with them.

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I can think of several politicians going back many years who should have the phrase 'Nobody could have predicted this' chiseled on their tomb stones.

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It’s such a stupid line, right? So what if no one said anything in the past, they’re saying something now! It’s not even an argument.

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And 99% of the time someone DID say something, but they don't bother to look it up. I see that a lot on Twitter - "CNN never mentions xxx", so then I feel obligated to find the CNN story on it from weeks ago.

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Didn't bother to look up, didn't listen, outright dismissed it as fake news or suffered from some kind of huge blind spot/delusion.

I just read a comment elsewhere saying Trump wanted mask-wearing in January or February?!

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Hello beanies!
it’s been a long time that I’ve been active in facebook.
Things I posted and shared in the past come up every year in Memories section to be deleted if they are not appropriate anymore while some are still nostalgic.
I don’t check stories or posts that people update because I’m not interested to know them. I’m just writing this as a memo or a journal to keep.
That I don’t find happiness or joy in facebook anymore like I did in the past. That I’m just happy without it, in my daily life.
Have a great weekend ahead!

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I have reduced my Facebook down to nothing but a few close relatives and old friends. Down from 100+ a year ago to barely 20 now.

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Few years ago I noticed that I've made a habit of checking facebook ever half hour or so. I felt anxious if I didn't do it. I didn't even know why I felt the need. I decided to quit cold turkey and found it to be very hard the first few weeks. I have never look back and do not miss it not having it in my life.

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It supposedly to be the original date of Tokyo Olympics 2020 this month but it was the next twelve months left for this global sporting event.

I didn't think it will cancel since WWII. I guess it will hold next year despite already prepared for new schedule of this global sports event.

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The 30 year old film AKIRA was set in 2020 on the eve of the Tokyo Olympics.

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Happy happy Friday everyone...
So I picked up TRAIN and I watched EPs 1,2 &3 and Boom the dead girl cameback because someone told her she died and the showed her her body. Now why does it feel like the TRAIN is replacing the HORSE WHIP? That said, I like the show and Yoon Shi Yoon.
Good day everyone and stay safe

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Episode 1 and 2 were great! Can't get to #3 because I don't have vikiplus :(

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The 40th anniversary of my start date with my employer is in about 3 weeks. Since I'm only going to the market about once every 5 or 6 weeks I had to stock up on an essential supply on my trip this week.
I didn't drink for my 70th birthday or for New Years Eve, but 40 years of that place? I'll be drinking.
Naturally I bought Corona.

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WOW! Now that is an impressive achievement! RESPECT

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Congratulations on your upcoming anniversary.
You mentioned Corona.
My PPL! For the last couple of months I have been drinking some international (non US) beers. Three that I have enjoyed are Ireland: Smithwick’s Red Ale, Italy: Moretti and Mexico: Bohemia. I recommend all three.

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i will toast you with my miller high life beer with soju bomb!

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Sadly, the Asian market with soju near me does not have enough other stuff I need to be worth a visit under current circumstances. Hint: I'm pretty much the champion of social isolation / hermitting.

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Also I'm not coordinated enough to do the trick where you knock the row of soju shot glasses into the row of beer mugs.

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i just pour a shot into a glass... 1:2 or is it 1:3.... sometimes i do 1:1.
: D

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My work history? Let me think. 18, 2 ,2, 10, 10, with a gap year somewhere in there during the Bush recession. That adds up to 43 but nobody's going to give me a gold watch for my service. I remember back-in-the-day when people were amazed if you'd been at the same job for more than 3 years.

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Congratulations on 40 years! I think? The longest I've had a job was for 8 years and that's after I went back to school, so I could get my dream job. Oh, wait, that doesn't count the 25 years raising at home raising my kids. I guess I do have some perseverance. I hope it's the idea of 40 years that has you drinking, not the job itself. If I were celebrating 40 years, it would be champagne, and I wouldn't share a drop.

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I'm still new in C-drama land and only watch few popular C-historical dramas. I watched The Legend of Hao Lan several days ago and amused with Hao Lan- Lu Bu Wei chemistry. I found that both leads were leads in Story of Yanxi Palace too so I started to watch Yanxi. This show was sooo good I never been into soap-opera things before because I found it so stupid but who knows I could be this addicted to imperial harem affair. Usually I could watch 2-3 episodes of KDramas in a day but Wei Yingluo totally bewitched me. I watch for like 12-15 episodes of Yanxi Palace in a day it's been fourth day somebody come to rescue me please.

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I hadn't been able to watch any modern day C-dramas for awhile because they are all so, well, just dumb and fluff. However, yesterday I discovered one that looks kind of dark, mysterious, and the lead is hecka cute...
It's on Viki and is called "Consummation" . I just hope it's good, esp since only two subbed episodes have aired. But I've really enjoyed the first two episodes.
Btw, Story of Yanxi Palace is good, imo. I don't like the concubine stories either, but this was well done. There are still quite a few historical, costume C-dramas I've really liked.

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I'm looking forward to this one, too. I really like the ML. He was in Wait, My Youth or just My Youth. That was a pretty sweet school drama.

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For me modern CDramas is a big no no because all reasons you mentioned before, however I did watch "No Secrets" which is Chinese remake of "I Hear Your Voice".
Thank you, I'll check "consummation" when I recover from this emptiness after Yanxi binge-watched.
Historical CDramas always offer attractive costume and hairstyle which somehow looks so majestic and ethereal and I can't found these in KDramas.

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I liked "Story of Yanxi Palace," too. There's a sequel on Netflix called "Yanxi Palace: Princess Adventures" that you might like. It's much shorter than the original and is primarily about the daughter. Another historical Chinese drama that I'd recommend is "Story of Ming Lan." I also really liked "Joy of Life" but beware, it ends on a cliffhanger and the sequel isn't slated to air for another year or two.

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No, I did watch Princess Adventures for like 10 minutes and I can't stand it. The daughter is too annoying even the most annoying consort in Yanxi not as annoying as that princess.

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My ear has become attuned to Korean in K-dramas but its still a bit jarring listening to Chinese. I've watched two Taiwanese dramas and one mainland China drama and greatly enjoyed them. But the vocal inflections are so alien to me that I have difficulty catching any nuance in the acting. I'm sure I'd bet better with practice.

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Yes it's kinda weird especially when you're into KDramas for so long and knew few words without subs. But thankfully my first CDrama was Nirvana in Fire, completely wash my brain clean so I didn't mind about everything and found that their language and accents interesting.

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A year ago it was gibberish to me. Now I can understand some sentences - and even recognize a very few Chinese characters.

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My friends asked me how come I could watch CDramas it's so disturbing unlike KDramas but I don't care thou I just know few words like "gonxi, jie jie, hao, mei mei, ge ge, wanxia, wanghou, taihou, niang niang" lol

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Wow, you know more than I do...I know "wu shu" "ni shu" but you'd be surprised how many sentences begin with those two words. And please, if someone reads this who speaks Chinese, don't make fun of us! We're trying.

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It took me awhile to get used with the Chinese language inflection in drama. It was so distracting to me that I even lower down the volume to the minimum just to get the ambient feeling. That was never an issue w korean drama because it us closer to my native language inflection.

Eventually my ear adjust tho and I now have no issue listening to cdrama in normal volume.

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Yanxi Palace is one of my favorite cdramas! I watched that before Hao Lan which was ultimately disappointing. Glad you are loving Yanxi. The FL is one one of my favorite drama heroines 😍

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Yes! I love Yi Luong too. I hope KDramas would remake this show with decent actress to become consorts.
People keep saying Hao Lan was such a waste of Yanxi Palace couple so I wonder how everyone blabbering about Yanxi all the time and I now know the answer.
I didn't finish Hao Lan, I just couldn't. I hate it the most if ones who had best chemistry with couldn't end up together.

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Slightly ominous this thread #666! But we are in a pandemic so whatever.

I will be technically going back to work in 5 weeks when college starts, and I might admit to myself the stress I feel at not being able to get the admin work done that I normally do so well. So that means I have to make every minute of my days count.

But, doesn't stop me from watching my dramas!
1) Midway through Jose Gunman
2) Episode 3 of Forest of Secrets
3) Episode 4 of When the Camellia Blooms
4) Saw 2 episodes of Train on viki but I can't watch the remaining unless I get vikipass
5) Almost done with Itaewon Class
6) And waiting for IOTNBO......

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Didn't read your comment before writing mine. We have similar thoughts I see. Seriously the 666th OT could not have better timing. This may go down in the DB history. We can make a culty drama based on how it all started and how two ladies (COUGH GF COUGH JB) cunningly schemed everything for this to overlap with the pandemic. How it was designed from the start. Man, it can get really dark if we combine our drama obsession with sinister concepts if it's well done. And if it is badly written it will turn out to be supernatural season 9-15 -_-

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Throw in some parallel universe and time travel in there too!

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nuh uh bro supernatural's disastrous seasons have taught me better XD

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I only realized this is the "devils" open thread once the two of you mentioned it :D This is some bat s*** crazy year (pun intended) and it seems that the doomsday is upon us :)

I'd hope that our minds could think of an admirable plot like Forest of secrets, #trustnoone, as I think we have an admirable experience and track record behind us XD

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I live in the U.S. We are well aware of 666. In fact, I grew up in the "South" where there are lots of conservative Christians. I remember getting an email from an uncle saying that the man running for President (Obama) was 666 and don't vote for him. True story...

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Man..... It's sad that I believe this story and did not get surprised by the absurdity 😅

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Linda, I remember years ago one of my customers telling me her pastor told her church "if Bill Clinton got elected President, God would be mad at the United States".

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Yes, some of my fellow Arkansans felt that way. No, wait, it was Hilary they hated. Not only was she a woman, she was also a Yankee.

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The timing doesn't exactly work, but it does almost seem like assorted deities are mad at the United States :)

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I just heard the V.P. say yesterday that America is Exceptional, the old American Exceptionalism - i.e. Americans are better than anybody else. Sickening, frankly.
How are said deities any more mad at the U.S. than the rest of the world?
Besides which, what kind of capricious deity do we have here?
I literally have friends and family who said God punished New Orleans (Katrina) because of some gay pride thing there.

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I believe that the assorted deities are so over Americans. It's not like we could not have followed the rest of the world and done the right thing. Sadly there are too many arrogant, selfish and delusional people in my country. They only care about themselves.

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I was waiting to check out at a small store, and when the customer before me was finally done, the cashier said she insisted on writing a check for $7.00 and didn't want change because she wouldn't write the actual total ($6.66) down.

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Superstition reigns!

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I missed a family Easter dinner when the hostess declared that Obama was the Devil made flesh 🤦🏼‍♀️

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And that wasn't that long ago. Guess humans haven't changed much. Kinda sad.

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It really is sad.

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What is funny about that 666 thing is that it is basically fake news. It is Nero's name written in Hebrew.

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Wait, I'm a bit confused...the New Testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew. And wasn't Nero long after Revelation? My remembrance of history is apparently faulty.

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GUYS IT'S OT NUMBER 666!
My supernatural watching ass is thinking of all the times this number comes out in sinister concepts. It came out in the red dragon book too.

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At one time Trump tried to get the address of his hotel changed from 666 5th Avenue changed. If you want to read some really totally 100% crazy stuff about that.. http://www.thehypertexts.com/donald%20trump%20666%20mark%20of%20the%20beast.htm

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🤣🤣🤣 it

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Because I don't watch Kdramas only :
I started the Apple TV show Little Voice and I love it. The songs are good and the actress is shining in this role. The story is very simple and there is not a lot happening but I like the ambiance.

I watched Cursed and Normal People too. Two very different shows :p
I like some actors in Cursed ( I really like Daniel Sharman since The Medicis TV show), they changed a lot of the story and for Arthur I don't think it was for the best, I'm not fan of his character...

Normal People was not I was expected but the actors were great, really raw and natural.

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Have you finished it? I think I only have 3 episodes left but can’t find the motivation to watch it. I like the Lady of the Lake story but not feeling the main lead’s acting.

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Yeah, I finished it. The end was kinda the best part with Merlin, Squirrel and the Weeping Monk :p

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Thanks! I’ll finish it then 🙂

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Hi Beanies! I hope you all had a good week. Mine was decent if somewhat unproductive. I'm working from home full-time and sometimes I get so much done and other times it's hard to stay motivated.

For dramas, I'm still on the same eps of HOSPITAL PLAYLIST and CRASH LANDING ON YOU. I may move forward with them this weekend. They are a bit on the slower side so I can only watch a couple eps at a time. I'm also watching WAS IT LOVE which I am still liking. It's not perfect, but I am entertained.

I started HER PRIVATE LIFE this week and I love it SO MUCH!! It's exactly what I was looking for. During this pandemic, I can't watch super serious shows and was looking for something light but with substance that would hook me. This fit the bill. The fangirl observations and the chemistry between our leads has me smiling from ear to ear. I'm on episode 10 so I'm sure some angst will pop up, but this show already has a place in my heart. Also, I am now a fan Kim Jae Wook. I know he was a model, but my goodness is that man good looking.

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“Decent but somewhat unproductive” - me too. It Describes a pretty good day in the current world atmosphere!

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KJW in HPL IS very hot. Only ever saw him in that one, and Ryan Gold is in my canon of best Dramaland boyfriends, he! I skipped all the angst and came back for the fluffy ending, though -worked for me!

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He is THE best boyfriend! I will officially hold him as the standard for all k-drama boyfriends.

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Beanies who watched SKY Castle, what was the story behind Coach Kims daughter Kay? Did she have a mental breakdown or something?

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Can't remember the specifics but I think Coach Kim was having a huge issue with her husband and how she was raising the daughter to study all the time.
There was a car accident which caused Kay to have serious brain injuries. ( I think the ex husband was involved?)
Anyway Kay couldn't study like she had before and her mother couldn't accept what had happened to her daughter.
It made me so upset because she may have been able to live a happier, free life if her mother had supported her.

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The premise was if all you're focused on is the quest for perfection what is there remaining when that abruptly gets taken away? Her daughter had been defined by her achievements and the 'accident' (which may have been Coach Kim's plot to murder her husband) left her with a child she was unable to relate to.

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SPOILER ALERT BELOW!

The coach had the brakes on the car messed with to try an kill her husband, who thought her methods were really really bad for the daughter (they were). The husband took the kid from the house and tried to make a getaway, not knowing the car had been sabotaged. He was killed in the wreck, the girl suffered severe brain damage.

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When I need a break from kdramas and doomscrolling, XKCD is sometimes brilliant
https://xkcd.com/2335/
https://xkcd.com/2336/

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XKCD is the awesomest! And the comments on the hover are usually even more brilliant.

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I love xkcd!

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XKCD is soooo good!!

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Doomscrolling 🤣

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I learned that word recently when one of the many news sites I visit had an article on how to stop doing it.
I decided to stop reading the article instead :)

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I likely read the same article. It was long and boring so I didn't finish.

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#soompiforumisdown😔

As of writing, soompi forums has been down for more than 24 hours. And the words The Community is Not Available is written on the page 😭. I really hope it's only temporary. As far as I know, no one really knows what happened. Soompi support responded that it's taken down by the forum service provider and they are investigating the issue.

I discovered both soompi forums and DB around 10 years ago. I am regularly on soompi forum in various drama threads, it is(was? 😥) my go to place for drama/variety/cast discussions, somewhat like drama discussions in DB recaps. Nearly all dramas have a thread in soompi forums. A drama thread is created as soon as the drama is confirmed. Drama fans shared updates, from casting news, intial plot, spoilers and many things from filming to the after party and more. Since several of my dramas (eg The Last Empress and Perfume) are not recapped on DB, I kept visiting soompi to discuss. Recently, I was updating the Kairos thread. I even got the Shin Sung Rok thread reactivated to spazz all things SSR-related, eventhough I'm his only fan there 🤭...all in all, I'm very attached to soompi forum as much as I'm attached to DB now.

I really hope the community is not wiped out entirely without notice. It's sad. I made an account in Jan 2010, that's 10 years of k-entertainment memories in a forum. I hope the forum returns together with the soompi forum community.

ps: I'm glad I made some soompi posts on my DBwall, it's like walking through memory lane 😆.

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Aaa...the reactivated link is not working:
My RH forum reactivation journey. The memories~~ soompi forum comeback~~~~
https://www.dramabeans.com/members/katakwasabi/activity/714480/

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i hate internet disappearances. happens too often.

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I don't know if what happened to DramaFever was a disappearance or an assassination.

For me site disappearances on the internet, or those that remain but are never updated,
are like those satellites going into deep space that suddenly lose contact with earth. My go-to site for kdrama ratings is in that category. Last contact was made on 14 July 2019:
https://inkinews.com/

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It could be one of many things:
1. Technical issues with the servers.
2. Financial issues of payment to the server/host.
3. Legal issues such as a copyright infringement notice (which really should not shut down all forums).
4. Business issues on whether the company wants to continue to pay for maintenance/operation of forum; testing reaction of users.
5. Hack of the site by denial of service attack or ransomware.

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It looks like #1. This morning, forum pages had program error codes instead of content.

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I tried it this morning, I was so happy to get in. Then got error codes, and the forums crashed again. I think their last updates have done them in.

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The site is slowly getting back up. I think the reason is that there was a legal order to not to allow users to embed IG posts. The platform then had to scrub all those links.

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Interesting. I thought Soompi was owned by Viki which according to this wiki page is the case since 2015:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soompi

Now Viki was itself bought by Rakuten in 2013.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viki_(streaming_service)

Bottom line is that I would be very surprised if Soompi just disappeared.

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Soompi is my only source of k-enterntainment news. The other portals are batshit and I hate ALLKPOP with my life, and don't even consider koreaboo to be an actual thing. I'll be devasted if soompi is down.

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Hello, all:
Not much happening, at least visibly..but lots of seeds growing silently and secretly. I have a tiny little cucumber! The large plant growing in the patch near my driveway turned out to be tomatillo. (I kinda plant whatever and see what grows up so i didn't know what the plant looked like.) Now i just have to trust the bees to pollinate it because apparently one needs at least two plants to pollinate or one ends up with only a few tomatillos. Noted. I got some stakes, supports, and cages. Corn is springing up. Peppers, chiles, melons of all kinds, tomatoes, sweet and regular potatoes, brassicaes, eggplants, beans, and who knows what else! All seem well-established and are preparing to bring forth fruit. First the seed, then the blade, then the full fruit.

Oh, yeah.. it looks like i'll be on a panel in ConZealand for a Worldcon convention of scifi/fantasy writers. Something i could never have done in the past because i was not gonna take a long plane trip anywhere. So, kudos for online scifi cons. Not sure if i'll be on the panel for worldbuilding, folklore, or epic fantasy. Oh, and yes..something else. The publisher has gotten a narrator for the Audible version of The Constant Tower, my last big book. So that's good. Am also trying to stick with vegetarian diet because dropping meat and sticking to mostly beans has always been a wonderful help and even a cure for diabetes. Other than that..am doing well.

Dramas:

Train: This is kinda what i wanted Born Again to be. Tons of folks in another reality in different situations and relationships with each other and with the protags. Am glad his alter ego/ other self is not a murderer. Damaged and wounded, yes...a drug addict and cynical... but not a killer. My hope is that druggie protag will end up back with his ex, the forensic doc..and hero protag will end up with his love. It's kdrama..one can dream.

Watching Su Yu Chinese drama. Fiction Guo is very sweetly arrogant.

Jdramas:
I caught some of Adult High School with Haruma. It was okay. The humor doesn't quite soar. I've been praying for him all week. After the fact, but perhaps...speaking spiritually and quantumly..all our prayers for him will heal his soul wherever he is.

Gotta catch up on Chip In. Anything good in the new batch of dramas? I keep waiting for Flower of Evil.

Have a good weekend, all.

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Con Zealand sounds exciting! One of many creative and alternative ways of holding events together but apart!

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baffling about Miura Haruma... so young, such a promising future...

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I loved adult school, and I get Japanese humor to the T... I only watched it for him but did not regret it...

He got me into jdramas after watching last cinderella... I still check almost everyday hoping its just imagination... His life was just about to start...

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i love jdrama humor. Switch girl, legal high, etc. I just think the silly humor in this one didn't soar. It was leaden. I've seen better. The director didn't deliver and perhaps Haruma was not able to force himself into the humor because of depression.

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Congratulations regarding the convention. All of the panels you mentioned sound interesting.

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Hi beanies. One if the main reasons I love the community here is because people here are courteous and there is politeness even in disagreement. I came across a very infuriating interview today and it made me very angry. So Bollywood, like every Indian industry, is family dominated and it's very difficult for people who don't come from Bollywood families to break into the mainstream. With the death of Sushant Singh Rajput, a lit of people have been calling out the nepotism in the industry and raising awareness about mental health. The interview in question was by this actress who has long been calling out the industry for its favoritism and I was so angry at her because the entire interview reeked of self righteousness. She talks about how she didn't cross paths with SSR but they were close because they shared mutual friends and so on. I read the interview because I wanted to give her the benefit of doubt but it aas extremely hard to do that. She didn't talk much about the culture and how nepotism prevails but she was calling people out. I also felt like she was bringing other outsider actresses like her down. What jm trying to say is, it felt like she was using SSR's swath to reiterate her stance on the industry and that really saddened me

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If you don't mind me asking, who was the actress?

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