It’s Okay to Not Be Okay: Episode 14
by SailorJumun
It’s dark and dreary in the cursed castle, as the prince and princess are thrown into a total nightmare. They know that being together means being in danger, that their past and present are finally catching up to hurt them. But this prince has no intentions of leaving his princess behind. Not this time.
EPISODE 14: “The hand, the monkfish”
The unique butterfly painted over Sang-tae’s mural sends Moon-young running out of the hospital. Kang-tae catches up to her and, his voice desperate, says that it’s not what she thinks. But she knows better — it’s the same mutant design as her mother’s one-of-a-kind brooch.
Kang-tae doesn’t want to let her go, but she insists that she’s not running away; she just needs time to think. As she leaves, he watches helplessly and then calls Sang-in to ask that he check in on her later.
For now, Kang-tae heads back inside to talk to Sang-tae, who’s hiding under the kitchen table and crying that the mom/baby butterfly found him. Kang-tae crouches down and gently tells him that it’s not the same butterfly, that the mutant butterfly is actually quite common.
Still, Sang-tae says, it was rude for someone to paint over his mural. “Right,” Kang-tae says. “I’ll catch that person and teach them a lesson.” With that, Kang-tae coaxes him out, reminding him that he promised to be brave. Sang-tae says it’s still hard for him, but he’s sure he can overcome his fear with Kang-tae’s help.
After leaving Sang-tae in Joo-ri’s mom’s hands, Kang-tae joins Director Oh in his office so they can check last night’s surveillance footage. They find the moment when the perpetrator was painting… and Nurse Park turns right to the camera and smiles.
Kang-tae’s mind starts racing, remembering his interactions with Nurse Park and putting the pieces together. Kang-tae can’t believe she was right in front of them, even getting close with his brother. Now that they know, Director Oh plans to get the police involved and gives Kang-tae time off from work to be with his family.
Meanwhile, at the mansion, Moon-young is frantically searching through her mother’s old vanity, but the butterfly brooch is gone.
The brooch is with Nurse Park (er, Hui-jae), who’s out somewhere, standing by the ocean. She looks up to the sky and says to herself that she sure had a good time, thinking back to the night before. While she was with Dae-hwan, he said that he had no regrets, making her frown.
“You killed the woman you loved,” she told him. “So you have no right to die in peace… honey.” He looked up at her in shock, realizing it was his wife, and she continued that the only reason she let him live all this time was because it was so much fun watching him suffer.
Hui-jae laughed in Dae-hwan’s face, saying it was quite thrilling to play this role with all the cameras and eyes watching. He weakly begged her not to hurt Moon-young, and to that, she stated that she’s been looking after their daughter. We see that Hui-jae had been a nurse at the hospital Kang-tae worked at previously, and that she’d taken the steak knife Moon-young tossed aside. She snuck that knife into the patient Mr. Kim’s room and encouraged him to take his own life. Whoa, what?
Hui-jae then told Dae-hwan that she worked so hard to raise Moon-young and that she didn’t like how Moon-young was behaving lately. “Do you know what you need to do to make children obey their parents?” she asked, leaning in. “They become extremely obedient when you take away what makes them the most happy.” With another wicked grin, Hui-jae walked away, leaving the panicked Dae-hwan crying out Moon-young’s name.
Just as Kang-tae asked, Sang-in comes rushing into the mansion to check on Moon-young. And seeing how she’s oddly cool and collected, even smiling at him, he can tell that something’s wrong. He steps out to let her sleep and then calls Kang-tae.
Before Kang-tae can come over, he tells Sang-tae to stay at the apartment for a while so he can make up with Moon-young. Sang-tae adorably scolds him for getting in a fight with Moon-young again and urges him to give her a proper apology.
Inside, Director Oh informs Joo-ri that they’ll be filing for Nurse Park’s resignation, though he doesn’t explain why. He trusts her with acting as head nurse for the time being, since she’s worked here the longest.
Once Kang-tae gets to the mansion, he fills Sang-in in on everything. In disbelief, Sang-in wonders why Kang-tae would want to be with Moon-young when they have such an ill-fated relationship. Kang-tae merely says, “Moon-young is just Go Moon-young to me. Not Do Hui-jae’s daughter.”
In turn, Sang-in fills Kang-tae in on what he knows about Hui-jae — that she dropped out of medical school and cut ties with her family before becoming a writer. Long after she disappeared, publishers were desperate to get the draft of her lost novel, which still hasn’t been found.
Kang-tae heads inside and, seeing that the basement door is open, goes downstairs and finds Moon-young. Turning to face him, she asks again if her mother really killed his mother. And to his sad silence, she bursts into tears and starts to walk past. He grabs her arm, telling her that he won’t leave her.
Kang-tae continues that she’s not her mother; she’s the girl he’s liked since he was a young boy. But she just looks at him, pain in her eyes, and calls him a hypocrite. With that, she escapes to her room and falls to the floor crying.
Back at OK, Director Oh admits to Joo-ri’s mom that he feels so sorry towards Moon-young and the brothers — he wanted to help them but ended up hurting them, because he trusted the wrong person. Joo-ri’s mom reminds him that even doctors make mistakes, pointing to his sign with the hospital’s motto, “It’s okay to not be okay.”
Later, at the apartment building, the gang is busy making rice balls to send over to the mansion. (They assume that with Sang-tae here, Kang-tae and Moon-young must be going through something.) Joo-ri takes Sang-in aside to say that she’s worried, and Sang-in interrupts that she needs to stop talking about Kang-tae around him.
To Sang-in’s surprise, Joo-ri meant that she was worried about Moon-young. Touched, Sang-in blurts out that he likes her, and Joo-ri answers that she likes Moon-young too (avoiding his sudden confession). When he leaves, she whips out her phone and sends Moon-young a message asking if she’s okay.
However, Moon-young doesn’t answer. She’s still sitting by her bedroom door, with Kang-tae sitting on the other side. Knowing she’s listening, he admits that he was devastated when he learned the truth too; he wondered why bad things kept happening to him.
“But none of that matters,” Kang-tae says. “When I see you smile, I forget everything else.” He continues that she did nothing wrong, that they all did nothing wrong, and the more he talks, the harder it gets for her to hold back her sobs. They stay like that, their backs to each other, for the rest of the night.
Still feeling down, Director Oh approaches Cha-yong after work and asks if he wants to have drinks. They’re revealed to be father and son, which… Huh. I never would’ve guessed, but that actually makes perfect sense.
At first, Cha-yong questions what’s up, since his dad only ever cares about his patients. But seeing his dad so beat, he smiles and agrees to go. Before they do, Director Oh stops him and gives him a sincere, “I’m sorry.”
The next day, Joo-ri is still worried about Moon-young, as well as Kang-tae since he’s taking time off. Everyone, including patients Jung-tae and Sun-hae are wondering where Kang-tae is. Sun-hae, who’s now back to her usual self, also asks Joo-ri that she let her know if her father calls.
At the mansion, Kang-tae knocks on Moon-young’s bedroom door and, surprisingly, she lets him in. He sits her down so he can explain what’s been going on at the hospital… revealing that Nurse Park was the one who painted the butterfly.
Moon-young has trouble processing this, saying there’s no way Nurse Park is her mother. Even if it has been many years, and even if her mom did get plastic surgery, she would’ve recognized her.
Even so, the idea starts to sink in. She grows panicked and tells Kang-tae that her mom’s brooch is missing, meaning her mom has been in the house. Meaning her mom has been watching them this whole time.
Jumping up, Moon-young screams for Kang-tae to run away, to protect himself and his brother. She’s crying and begging for him to listen to her, but he just brings her into a hug, his own eyes filling with tears.
Sang-tae tries to reach Kang-tae all morning, and when he finally does, it’s after Kang-tae has put Moon-young back to bed and is overwhelmed with emotion. Kang-tae tries to keep it together, but he’s crying as he says that Moon-young is sick.
Sang-tae’s so worried that when he hangs up, he heads downstairs and asks that Joo-ri’s mom make some porridge. Soon, Sang-tae is rushing over to the mansion, Jae-soo in tow, so he can take care of his little sister. God, he’s the most precious thing.
While Jae-soo stays with Kang-tae downstairs, Sang-tae barges into Moon-young’s room with her food. Startled, Moon-young turns away to hide her tear-streaked face. She asks him to leave, but he insists on feeding her so she can get better. It’s all too much for her, and she breaks, saying, “I’m sorry. This is all my fault.”
She keeps crying for him to forgive her, and he just brings the spoon to her mouth, saying he’ll forgive her if she eats. She cries even harder, but she complies, making him happy. He wipes her tears and says that she shouldn’t fight with Kang-tae anymore, that “kissing is better than fighting.”
Outside, while Kang-tae and Jae-soo are talking, Jae-soo comes to the conclusion that the brothers’ feared butterfly is Moon-young’s mother. He looks at his friend and tells him to admit that he’s weak.
Jae-soo states that Kang-tae and Moon-young are both weaklings — always acting tough, wanting someone to lean on them and vice versa. “That’s why weaklings are attracted to each other like magnets,” he says. “You should join forces and stick together. Then you’ll become invincible.”
Eventually, Sang-tae comes down, excitedly telling Kang-tae that Moon-young ate her food. He wonders what she did wrong, since she kept apologizing, but nevertheless, he forgave her. This makes Kang-tae emotional all over again, and aughhh, I can’t take this.
Kang-tae asks Sang-tae to hug him, to pat him on the back, and Sang-tae does just that. As they clutch onto each other, Kang-tae admits that he’s scared, and Sang-tae promises to protect both him and Moon-young since he’s the older brother. Laughing through his tears, Kang-tae feels relieved.
After Kang-tae sees Sang-tae and Jae-soo out, he notices an unmarked package by the front door. He opens it to find one of Moon-young’s books, The Hand, The Monkfish. As he starts to read it, we hear Hui-jae narrating:
“Once upon a time, a beautiful baby girl was born into a wealthy family. The mother loved her so much that she pledged she’d do anything for her baby. When the baby started eating solid foods, the mother was thrilled. ‘Baby, I will feed you everything you want to eat.’ When the baby started walking, the mother quickly ran to where she was. ‘Baby, I will carry you.’ After raising the baby by providing her with everything she needed, the mother said, ‘My beloved baby, I need to rest now. Can you get me some food?’ The baby said, ‘Mom, I have no hands. I never used them, so they vanished.’ ‘Then, my baby, can you carry me?’ ‘Mom, I have no feet. You always carried me, so I’ve never stepped on the ground. Instead, I have a huge mouth.’ The mother shouted, ‘You weren’t my perfect baby after all. You’re a useless monkfish.’ Then the mother threw the baby into the faraway sea. Since that day, it’s been said that fishermen can hear a baby’s cry: ‘Mom, what did I do wrong? Please come get me.’”
Kang-tae finishes the book, finding Hui-jae’s written note in the back. It says that this book is Mom’s favorite, but that it was Moon-young’s biggest failure. And all writers should know that they should discard their failures.
Elsewhere, Hui-jae burns her family photo, while we see all the times she was watching Moon-young and Kang-tae at the hospital. We then see that Hui-jae is currently parked in front of the Joo-ri’s apartment building. No.
Meanwhile, in the mansion’s basement, Moon-young removes the vanity drawer and pulls out a hidden file. Inside is Hui-jae’s lost work — the final volume of The Murder of the Witch of the West.
The next morning, news blows up that Do Hui-jae’s final book will be published by Sang-in’s company. Sang-in and Seung-jae panic, realizing that Moon-young must’ve contacted Mr. Ascot (the book critic she pushed down the stairs) and leaked the story.
At home, Moon-young gets all dressed up, like she’s getting ready for battle. She stares into the mirror and says, “Come to me… Mom.”
But, apparently, Mom has other plans. She calls Sang-tae, and Sang-tae gladly meets her outside, thinking he’s meeting up with his friend Nurse Park. He notes that she looks different today, and she grins, saying, “That’s right. I’m a different person.”
As the day goes on, Kang-tae worries because he can’t reach Sang-tae on the phone. While Kang-tae goes out searching for him, Sang-in comes by the mansion to confront Moon-young about the news article.
Moon-young states that she has to catch the butterfly in Kang-tae’s place, and that this was the one way she knew how to provoke it.
Well, it must’ve worked, because Sang-in tells her that her mother already called him, wanting him to meet her with the manuscript. So she bolts up and demands that he take her to the meeting spot right now.
Kang-tae reaches the apartment, but Sang-tae is nowhere to be found. All he finds is Sang-tae’s last sketch, the mutant butterfly, on the desk. Then, finally, he gets a call from Sang-tae’s number — and his heart drops to hear Hui-jae’s voice.
Kang-tae warns Hui-jae that he’ll never forgive her if she hurts his brother. In a teasing voice, she says that forgiveness is for those who did something wrong and she hasn’t done anything wrong. Kang-tae: “Where do I have to go?” Hui-jae: “The cursed castle.”
As Sang-in drives Moon-young out of town, he thinks back to a conversation he had with Kang-tae earlier. He asked if Kang-tae would really be okay by himself, and Kang-tae just told him to take Moon-young far away. Oh, Kang-tae…
When Sang-in doesn’t answer any of Moon-young’s questions, it dawns on her and she orders him to stop the car. “Kang-tae is there alone!” she shouts, grabbing the wheel and making him pull over. She jumps out of the car, out of her heels, and runs back, crying Kang-tae’s name.
But it’s too late. Kang-tae is already at the mansion.
Determined, Kang-tae walks right in, finding Hui-jae in the study facing the newly hung family portrait. His eyes then land on Sang-tae on the couch, unconscious. He hurries over and tries to shake him awake, but it’s no use. He looks back at Hui-jae, who’s laughing maniacally.
COMMENTS
I don’t like this. Kang-tae is doing exactly what I was afraid of, storming the castle without any backup. It’s infuriating, but he doesn’t really have a choice when his brother’s life is at stake. It’s perfectly planned, on Hui-jae’s part, trapping the two men who changed her daughter. Her masterpiece. Because let’s face it, all Hui-jae sees in Moon-young is a creative project like one of her books. And now that she’s unhappy with the way her project has been edited, she’s going to do whatever it takes to change it back. Or, who knows, maybe she’ll throw it away, thinking it’s already ruined, just as the storybook mom did with her baby.
I was enamored with this drama from the very beginning, and I’m still enamored. But yeah, it’s had its issues, some I could overlook and some I couldn’t. Unfortunately, this episode had a major issue that just took me out of the drama. That being Do Hui-jae. Weirdly enough, the whole thing with the mom was creepier when it was in the background. Like in scary movies, when you notice something off to the side or behind the main character and it makes your skin crawl. The same effect was wonderfully executed with the flashbacks, the nightmares, the overall feeling that someone was watching. I loved that. I even loved the Nurse Park reveal, because I saw it coming and it still hit me. But now that Do Hui-jae is an actual person, right before our eyes, it’s lost that magic. She was made to be a fairy tale villain, spooky and witchy, and that doesn’t fit in the real world. Having her in the real world, she’s almost cartoonish. The something off to the side became a cheap jumpscare.
Still, even with the mom brought center stage, the drama stayed consistent and kept the real focus on our trio and their emotional journeys. Kang-tae had to be brave going in to save his brother, but he also showed so much bravery beforehand. In situations where, a few episodes ago, he would’ve run away, he stayed and endured. It was satisfying watching his scenes in the mansion, as he tried to work things out. When he was talking to Moon-young through the door, he seemed like a fully-realized adult, rather than a kid trying to play an adult. Then, moving on to Moon-young, she showed true selflessness. She cares so much for the brothers and it killed her to know she was somehow a part in their painful past. She cares so much that she felt she had to take the blame, when it was in no way her fault. And Sang-tae — what an angel on Earth. Any time he does something big brotherly, I just wanna squeeze him. That goes for Joo-ri, Sang-in, and Jae-soo too. The character arcs are spot-on for me.
I don’t know where Do Hui-jae’s arc is going to go. Knowing this drama, it could go anywhere. It could go the You From Another Star route and make the villain a villain, or it could go the Pinocchio route and make the villain human. I’d much prefer the latter, because that provides way more emotional pull. In the meantime, I’ll be praying for the brothers’ safety, for Moon-young’s safety. After whatever happens next, they better start making some smart choices. Because Kang-tae leaving Sang-tae in the apartment alone? Kang-tae and Moon-young staying in the mansion when they know Hui-jae has access? WHY. I love you guys and I want to see you smiling in Episode 16, so let’s all listen to Jae-soo and stick together.
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1 panshel
August 3, 2020 at 11:02 PM
As soon as Head Nurse Park revealed herself to Go Dae-hwan, I ranted, "What!? Are we really doing this!?" So Head Nurse Park really is Do Hui-jae? I still refuse to believe Moon-young's mom is alive. I held out hope when Moon-young insisted that even if Mom had plastic surgery all over her face, Moon-young wouldn't have not recognized her, but then Kang-tae justified it by even her father and Director Oh had no idea. But how? How could her husband and daughter not sense her bone-chilling presence every time she was around them? How could she resist not controlling her perfect creation? How could she survive in a suitcase thrown into the river?!
I sobbed for ten minutes straight when Sang-tae tried to feed Moon-young porridge. "Forgive me. Oppa, mianhae." Seo Ye-ji was weeping so sorrowfully. This world doesn't deserve Sang-tae. "If you eat this, I'll forgive you. Don't cry." Moon-young tearfully apologizing to Oppa would've killed Kang-tae if he had overheard them, so I was thankful Jae-soo led him out of the house, but then I sobbed through Jae-soo's candid advice. "It's always those who are weak that act all tough." He knows him so well. Kang-tae is incredibly lucky to have Jae-soo as his best friend. I sobbed again when Kang-tae asked his hyung to give him a hug and confessed he was scared. "I'm your guardian." I wish Kang-tae told Sang-tae Moon-young didn't do anything wrong and Jae-soo shed a tear as he watched the brothers embrace. When our couple makes up, I expect "a kiss is better than a fight" to come back since Sang-tae has told Kang-tae twice and Moon-young.
Jae-soo is smarter than Kang-tae thinks to have figured out the butterfly. I know Kang-tae doesn't want anyone to find out Moon-young is the daughter of their mom's murderer, and the more people who know, the more chance it could get back to Sang-tae, but I wish Director Oh or Sang-in told Joo-ri and Joo-ri's mom because that whole household from Jae-soo to Seung-jae is family, and they can all get through this together. I was crying like Sang-in when Joo-ri's mom knowingly said, "Obviously something is going on between Kang-tae and Moon-young, and they'll skip their meals." Mom is the best mom in this drama (not that the other Moms are even any contest).
THANK GOD Sang-tae is not Moon-young's real brother! I despised this theory. Kang-tae sacrificed his entire life for his hyung just for Sang-tae to turn out to not even be his real brother? Can life be any more unfair for Kang-tae? He lived a guilt-ridden shell of a life with Hyung as his everything, so if Kang-tae had ended up with no family, that would've been too pitiful. Kang-tae never even had his mom's love, and now both his hyung and his girlfriend's mom killed his mom too? Talk about the most tragic character ever. I can't begin to express how relieved I am.
I wondered how Do Hui-jae kept getting into their house before I realized it's originally her house. I was...
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panshel
August 3, 2020 at 11:04 PM
(cont.)
I was freaking out at whether Do Hui-jae was wearing the butterfly brooch when she called Sang-tae out. I reckon she drugged Sang-tae as a nurse. "He's there all alone!" Moon-young remembers her mom's promise to kill her prince, and Kang-tae is her prince. The reveal that brat Cha-yong is Director Oh's son was the biggest surprise of today's episode. So he was the son Director Oh wanted to introduce to Moon-young just to see Kang-tae's frazzled reaction. I feel Director Oh told Cha-yong what happened when he showed the police to the director's office. Now that we're aware who Cha-yong is, I hope Show redeems his character like helping his hardworking sunbae catch Head Nurse Park whom he can't stand. Sang-tae's "If you help me out a little, I'll be able to overcome it" to Kang-tae about the butterflies touched my heart.
Thanks a ton for all your speedy recaps, @SailorJumun!
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parkchuna is looking for an Emperor Penguin 🍉
August 3, 2020 at 11:38 PM
Jae Soo is such a low key character but he packs a punch at the right times!
I was wondering how a narcissist psycho like DHJ could have acted so well and nice to everyone that she managed to fool them for years. I feel like it would’ve been better if she was DHJ’s sister out for revenge.
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OLakes
August 4, 2020 at 1:29 AM
"Moon-young remembers her mom's promise to kill her prince...." No wonder she's terrified. This is the second time she's begged him to run (not just leave, to RUN). The only two occasions (I think) that we've seen her truly panicked - and now here she is, tearing down a highway, with her worst nightmare coming true.
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parkchuna is looking for an Emperor Penguin 🍉
August 4, 2020 at 4:50 AM
My comment is still under moderation by db 😕 *scratches head*
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Eazal
August 4, 2020 at 12:08 AM
Such a big plothole that may ruin the drama...
How on Earth is HuiJae alive? Still no clue.
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Aidualc
August 4, 2020 at 1:07 AM
There's still time for another plot twist and maybe Head Nurse is not Hui Jae after all. It doesn't make sense to me that after 20 years she doesn't look a day older. I know they mentioned plastic surgery, but even with that she looks the same age or even younger than in the flashbacks from 20 years ago while Go Dae Hwan, her husband, has clearly aged a lot. And all the other inconsistencies...
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Eazal
August 4, 2020 at 2:00 AM
MY’s dad was born in 1959, so he was 60 when he died. Even if MY’s was younger (like 10
Years) Nurse Park doesn’t look like she’s in her 50’s tbh.
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Yn00na
August 4, 2020 at 2:11 AM
I completely agree. If nurse Park is indeed Hui Jae, it's too big of a plot hole for me.
My guess is nurse Park is someone close to Hui Jae. A sister? A fanatic fan? She could be the one that saved Hui Jae (or at the very least remove the body). I think Hui Jae is still alive and hide in seclusion. Could be done permanent disability from the fall? I think the missing patient ahjumma is probably now with her.
Let's see how many of these guesses end up to be true next week 😜
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Eazal
August 4, 2020 at 2:48 AM
Ok tan is probably dead by now, not missing...
halofan68
August 4, 2020 at 10:16 AM
This is so frustrating! A great show focused on characters' interior lives is now turning into a "Return of Mike Myers" kind of nonsense. We have serial killer mama, our lead characters' response to mama, and the secondary characters' response to the distress experienced by the primary characters because of mama. I realize others have no problem with this, but for me, the last couple of episodes have been a steaming pile of fail.
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Eazal
August 4, 2020 at 1:02 PM
You're not alone.
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myeverythinq
August 4, 2020 at 9:07 AM
I still don't think she's her mother...it would be too far fetched if they went the whole "she got plastic surgery" route. I am convinced that she's Do Hui Jae's sister still...the hints are all there! The constant reference to "wicked witch of the west"--and we know the wicked witch of the west in the Wizard of Oz blamed Dorothy (perhaps MY in this story) for her sister's death. And as for her calling Ko Dae-hwan "honey"...the Oh Clementine song hints that after his wife dies he falls in love with the sister. So I still dont think it's her real mom.
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Terry
August 4, 2020 at 2:19 PM
Thank you for saying this. To me, Nurse Park being Mum doesn’t add up at all. As you say, I feel like she’s a sister,or,at the very least Dad’s lover. If Mum knowingly took in the offspring of her husband’s affairs, her obsession with Moon-Yeoung being her Mini-Me would make even more sense
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2 Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
August 3, 2020 at 11:25 PM
Call me a blind fan or overly hopeful one, I have looked to the other side for the last 15 minutes of ep14 because things we're kinda inconsistent. The flow of story till that point was so good, balanced and poignant that it made me happy as a viewer.
In most recap comments I've said who shined the most in the episode in my opinion, but for this one I have to say all three had equal screen presence and shining moments, and I'm saying this about both the characters and the actors.
MY shined at the beginning and ending when she kicked noble idiocy through the door. While Seo Ye Ji really captured my heart by her heartfelt crying and hysteria.
Gang Tae really proved in this ep that he has accepted his past instinct to run away, owned his mistakes and has decided to change for good. He stayed with the girl he wants to protect, care, adore and receive all three in return. And Kim Soo Hyun ohhh.... Kim... Soo.... Hyun....
Where do I start with Sang Tae? He was the brother Gang Tae wished for and MY needed to make big of them appreciate life and love. And at this point I'll only repeat one thing for Oh Jung Se, give him the baeksang.
Now I want to know two things,
1. Your interpretation of why MY once again called GT hypocrite
2. Did you feel that the scene order in last 15 minutes were kinda odd and incomprehensible?
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parkchuna is looking for an Emperor Penguin 🍉
August 3, 2020 at 11:44 PM
Oh i’d love someone to explain the hypocrite comment as well, i didn’t get that
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Eazal
August 4, 2020 at 12:13 AM
I think she called him hypocrite out of rage and fear and anger. It's the same reaction KT had when he shouted at her to go away the same day he learned HuiJae was his mum's murdered.
She wanted to push her away. And now it's the other way round, and also she's telling him: are you really trying to convince me you don't care my mum killed your mum? What a nice story to tell our children, don't you think?
But then after the rage and the shock, MY can understand what KT told her: they're not their mums. They can have a life together.
And yes, the last 15 minutes I felt I could have been playing Candy Crush.
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SailorJumun
August 4, 2020 at 12:13 AM
I assumed she called him a hypocrite because she couldn't believe he still wanted to be with her, knowing her mother hurt him. Which makes sense -- even when they were kids, there was some doubt on her part, regarding his feelings.
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heart9
August 4, 2020 at 12:24 AM
I thought the hypocrite comment came from when KT first learnt about the owner of the brooch, he pushed MY away. Though it was more just to think about the best way to deal with the situation. My 2 cents would like to think that MY recalled that time and put two and two together that is when he found out.
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Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
August 7, 2020 at 12:26 AM
That's how I interpreted the scene as well. Because after he said he has known it for few days, MY had to recall the recent situation when GT seemed angry/frustrated/torn. She must have connected the dots between the recent scream she had to receive without any reason before the family photo day and called him a hypocrite cause he definitely wasn't COMPLETELY fine with the recent turn of event.
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Aidualc
August 4, 2020 at 12:50 AM
My interpretation is that she called him a hypocrite because in that moment he was being a hypocrite, like in episode 3. She probably knew that deep down it still does matter to him that her mom killed his mom and probably didn't believe him that she is simply Ko Moon Young to him, not her mother's daughter.
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OLakes
August 4, 2020 at 1:36 AM
I was also a little confused about her calling him a hypocrite, but the comments here make a lot of sense. I was wondering if it was because back in episode 10 after ST's outburst in the hospital, she told him that he hadn't done anything wrong back in the day. She was trying to ease the burden of his guilt by telling him to let go something that wasn't truly his. He told her that he WASN'T innocent, and they all knew it, and he pushed her away. And now he's trying to very obviously ease her guilt (guilt that also isn't hers to bear) - and she should accept his reasoning when he rejected hers? But it was honestly a guess - it's not very clear to me.
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Ashes2Ashes
August 4, 2020 at 2:42 AM
Yup..this is the interpretation that I am leaning towards as well. After all the self flagellation he has made himself go through and inflated sense of blame he has carried, MY is calling him out for his comments that she is to forget what her mother has done to his family. I loved the character growth on both sides here. The old GT really would've shrunk back from any association that could potentially harm hyung and the EP 1 MY might have tried to accept the easy out she was given. But in the intervening months, these two have experienced true love,not just from each other but from the people around them and so GT can't help but try to offer her instant absolution and MY can't help but cal him out for it coz now she knows what it really means to feel hurt on someone else's behalf.
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omichan
August 4, 2020 at 4:05 AM
I commented below before I saw this thread, and I kind of alluded to the hypocrite thing there so wanted to jump in proper into this thread! I saw the 'hypocrite' comment as being very consistent with how moon young is always able to look past kang tae's facade and defences and call him out whenever he says something he doesn't mean. In that scene, kang tae tells her that he won't leave her no matter what, and you could see her calling him a hypocrite because he did leave her in the past.
But I didn't read it that way, and I saw it more as a response to what he said after the line about not leaving her. He continued on moon young that to her, she's just the girl that he liked since young. Moon young calls him out because she sees past him and knows that there is no way that her being related to his mother's murderer doesn't matter at all. Kang tae always does that and represses how he truly feels for what he thinks the other person needs (in past experiences, it was always about what sang tae needed, and that is the other time she called him out as a hypocrite). So in this case, she knows that Kang-tae is telling her that because that is what she needs to hear - the two have always been able to see right into each other.
But the difference here is that kang-tae is doing this not because it is a burden, duty or responsibility (which is what always drove his actions in the past). But he says this with conviction that he will get there, to the point where he truly can see moon young, just as moon young. The difference to me is the motivation behind the commitment, and the conviction. That's how i interpreted that scene!
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Mandy
August 4, 2020 at 6:13 AM
Yes this is also how I read that scene! He kept insisting it doesn’t matter but actually it does and Moon-young knows it. Of course it matters because even if he tries to forget it and move on, it’s still a reality that’s lingering. He’s just saying what will make her feel better in his mind, but Moon-young has always been able to read him well. She knows when he’s being honest and when he’s hesitating. That’s also why he let go of her hand when she called him that. He knew then that she knew the truth.
I like that he’s determined to fight for her, not because he has to, but because he wants to. I love his line in the previous episode - he said that he’d not take his responsibilities as burden but instead something to be proud of and cherish. But it’s not a flick of a switch. He needs time to get there too, he’s also processing this new reality too. I think it was a powerful scene and really showed how far they’ve both come, but that they’re still working on it. I don’t actually mind ending without them fully “there” as long as there’s a promise that they will eventually.
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omichan
August 4, 2020 at 7:23 AM
Completely agree! I love your point about how they've come so far, but are still working on it. This drama has never held back on the realities of mental health and the process of recovery. It has also made a powerful point of how there is no magical or quick-fix solution, but is rather a choice you make every day to keep fighting and working at it. Of course there will be relapses, and we have seen it happen where they withdraw back into their old habits and defence mechanism. But we also see them choose to keep trying to be a little bit better every time, and I fully agree with your last point on the promise of them getting there :)
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Origami
August 5, 2020 at 1:38 PM
That's a good interpretation. Makes a lot of sense.
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3 parkchuna is looking for an Emperor Penguin 🍉
August 3, 2020 at 11:25 PM
I agree with Sailorjumun about Mum. She terrified me when she was a nightmare but now we know who she is, not so much. I hope they have an interesting explanation of how she survived her ‘murder’ or why she’s so obsessed with MY and evillll.
I actually felt relief when at the very beginning MY said she’s not running away and just needed time to think. I have absolute faith then that the 3 of them are gonna be OK. And gosh, Sang Tae oppa is the BEST ever! I love him, I love all three’s development and relationship and their little support system is just precious too ♥️
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4 froyo
August 3, 2020 at 11:26 PM
i really love how Jaesu asked Kangtae to keep stay together with his family instead of blaming on Moonyoung or the situation.
Moonyoung breaks my heart in this episode, she knows how the Moon brothers life all this time she just cant stand that the source of their pain is her own mother. my heart hurts when she wear her full armor to meet her mother :((
they already mentioned in the last episode, child abuse happens because neglect from people. right now Moonyoung is not alone so i know she and her family could pass this
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5 ♕ℳ𝑒𝓁
August 3, 2020 at 11:28 PM
Since I already posted my theory regarding HN on my fan wall (feel free to let me know what you all think because I love reading everyone's thoughts!!), I won't clog up the comments here and instead focus on what I absolutely love about this drama.
I know after this week's episodes with the whole reveal, a lot of people are disappointed and even think less of the drama. Pushing all that aside, I think the reason why this show has made such an impact on me is how fleshed out and well written our main leads are. The core of this show is ultimately our trio, their growth and development, and how they come together to give each other strength, support and love in all the ways they didn't get to experience it for themselves. Everything they've gone through and feel is valid because they felt it, they experienced it and it affected them all in different ways. I believe them because KSH, SYJ, and OJS also play their characters with their entire being. They've all poured so much into them and don't hold back, almost as if they don't want any regrets to be left behind, which makes these characters feel so much more alive and real.
I know people are iffy with how mental health issues are usually portrayed in shows and dramas, but I don't think the show has sugarcoated any of it. Mental illness is never black and white, and it affects everyone differently. There's a lot of gray, and I feel like the writer has portrayed it as well with there not always being the concrete 'good/bad or right/wrong.' The drama has shown us that it's complicated along with the fact that it's cruel, ugly and heartbreaking. There are a lot of lows that people often don't see, and the show doesn't shy away from that. There's toxicity because that's how it is in real life, it exists no matter how much we try to avoid it.
MY at the beginning of the series also said something that hit me and it was when she said she could never understand how people could define relationships in just one word. In real life, there are so many aspects to a relationship that can make it just as messy and complex, even the ones that are considered healthy and good. Defining everything that two people have gone through together into one single word just feels hollow.
In the end, it doesn't matter who HN is. To our leads, she's the trauma to their never-ending nightmare. She's the one person who's caused them all so much pain, and the one person they all need to confront to finally free themselves from their leashes.
I agree with everyone that ST should not have been left alone in the dark. KT should have said something, but I can understand he was busy trying to help MY process her feelings. After JS found out the reasoning though, he should have been right by ST's side.
I'm really praying for a good finale because just like everyone else, I don't want this drama to end as a disappointment with how amazing it started out. Also, I want justice for all the tears this episode...
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♕ℳ𝑒𝓁
August 3, 2020 at 11:29 PM
Also, I want justice for all the tears this episode stole from not only me but everyone else and our beloved trio, (mainly SYJ because gosh, she cried her heart out). I hope everyone drank lots of water this week!!
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asterell
August 4, 2020 at 12:59 AM
your theory almost has me convinced me that Nurse Park isn't Do Hui-jae! The fact that there are 2 versions of the photo is really curious..
Also, if Nurse Park perceived herself as the stepmother, it would really explain that dialogue with ST about Dooly.
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6 korfan
August 3, 2020 at 11:31 PM
Nurse Park, Do Hui-jae, or whatever your name really is ..... just back up and step away from Sang-tae!
If he is hurt in any way ..... I don't know ..... I don't even want to think about it.
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7 Playstore, Okay Or Not Okay
August 3, 2020 at 11:38 PM
Thanks a lot @sailorjumun. You're fast recaps are wholeheartedly appreciated!
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8 Kurama
August 3, 2020 at 11:44 PM
All the story about the mum is weird. We never really knew what she really did in the past, just some memories or nightmares not very clear. Now she came back from death and the "I was happy to watch you dying miserably" is not convincing me to be enough to become a nurse during so long. She was from a doctors family, she was rich, she was a famous writter so a nurse condition doesn't really look appealing for someone like her.
I agreed with @frabbycrabsis, the story didn't need a big villain because the healing part was the journey of the characters not to find the mum's murderer or a woman who could resurrect and change her face like that... I'm kinda disapointed that the story turned in a thriller like that.
So most surprising part was the son of the CEO of hospital! They didn't show any clues about it.
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Eazal
August 4, 2020 at 12:16 AM
I wonder how they are going to "fix" the whole mum is alive although she fell down the stairs and was drowned in the lake.
I really want to know what fairy tale will that be.
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Benny
August 4, 2020 at 3:18 AM
She might not have fallen down the stairs the way they showed it. They could both have been hallucinating or remembering incorrectly because MY was very young and her father had brain tumor and was prone to hallucinations and blackouts.
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Eazal
August 4, 2020 at 6:00 AM
Of course it could be, but then I'll be mad because...how many times are we going to have "memories are deceitful" in the drama? Because the first couple of times it was ok, but right now it's... aha, I get it... but it won't have any kind of impact because that bridge is already burned, specially considering that in episode 14 every one made it so clear Nurse Park IS ACTUALLY HuiJae.
So I don't really think my disappointment will vanish.
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dogemama
August 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM
who made it clear that she is do hui jae? everyone is making that assumption based on the pieces fitting together, bc believe it or not, someone who's assumed dead being alive after all is far less contrived than some rando pretending to be that someone for 20 years for no particular rhyme or reason. i don't think anyone knows who nurse park really is, and although the writing has dangled the possibility that she could be the mother, there have been numerous clues that support the alternative. i am curious about why so many people think that this is a done deal when we've really had no confirmation of any sort.
Cindy
August 4, 2020 at 4:44 PM
@dogemama, I agree with everything you said. I'm surprised how most people in all the discussion forums are believing nurse Park IS the mother when the show deliberately left it vague. Nurse Park never said she was Do Hui Jae, Moon Young said there's no way she wouldn't recognize her mom even with tonnes of plastic surgery. I think there's more hints at her being an imposer than actually being Do Hui Jae.
crazy jason
August 7, 2020 at 11:41 PM
Maybe not a fairy tale connection, but surviving that fall and then escaping that rapidly sinking suitcase was surely an act only Houdini could pull off.
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froyo
August 4, 2020 at 12:46 AM
i agree with you with whole mom story, i already watch episode 14 yet everything about Moonyoung's mom feel unclear (for me at least). like i said in episode 13 recaps, i dont trust Go Daehwan side of the story at all not because he was a patient, but Moonyoung keep on eye her father that night when he killed his wife. there is no way Moonyoung dont see her father bring a big bag from downstairs and going out.
its only 2 episode left i dont know if we can get answer we deserves about mom
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9 Bow
August 3, 2020 at 11:56 PM
I do feel that while the reveal of Nurse Park as Do Hui-jae was thrilling (even when we saw it coming), the rest of the storyline is falling a bit flat. I've had to tell myself that no drama is perfect, and we've had 12 episodes that were as close to it as possible so I'm willing to overlook this, depending on how it ends.
Mum drama aside, Sang-tae was my favourite in this episode. The scene of him telling Moon-young that it's okay to be fed like a little baby when you're not feeling well, and him feeding her while she cried? That broke my heart clean in two. It was so sad, knowing what we know, but so warm simultaneously. Sang-tae has grown so much, and him now being able to look after others too is amazing.
Even if the show has veered into territory I'm not quite liking with the storyline, the acting is continuing to knock it out the park, along with the visuals and soundtrack. Seo Ye-ji, Kim Soo-hyun, and Oh Jung-se deserve some awards, for real. Whatever happens, this drama gave us our Moon-Moon couple, and the sweetest sibling relationships so even if it's not okay, it'll be okay (ha).
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Ashes2Ashes
August 4, 2020 at 3:11 AM
That porridge scene killed me good. ST was always critical of MY's insistence on GT placing food on her spoon and used to constantly call her out for her 'baby-ing' tendencies when she's a grown a$$ adult. But he has come such a long way and truly loves her as his li'l sister now. How he said it's ok to act the child since she's ill and visibly upset.The pure guy who always says it as it is put up a front coz he could see she needed it. and how indulgently he fed her and agreed to forgive her for whatever it was that she felt sorry for.😢
Just as I was wiping my eye sweat away, he goes and comforts GT and assures us that big brother will protect his li'l bro and sis. GT bursting into tears coz he finally has the protection of the elder sibling he so craved ..
ST really has become the adult now!!!
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DoubleFault
August 4, 2020 at 6:01 AM
ST oppa feeding and comforting a tearful and apologetic MY really broke me. I'm not sure who was crying harder in that scene, me or SYJ. 😅 Man, that was really sad. MY, probably for the first time in her life, genuinely apologizing (for something that she didn't do) and ST oppa just forgiving her wholeheartedly, without asking any questions. Such a beautiful and poignant scene. Is it awards season yet?
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10 Eazal
August 4, 2020 at 12:04 AM
I’m really sorry to say that this episode felt like “we have to fill time to get 16 episodes so let’s make lots of stills of people suffering and of crazy mum with her evil smile”.
Nothing really has happened. Well, not that. Many things have happened but they could have been told in 20 minutes, not 80.
Nothing has been explained about MY’s mum: how she survived, how her face changed… two last episodes to go and I’m already anticipating more scenes with images of people concerned looking to the infinite. I mean, I can deal with this, but I’m feeling a bit disappointed, and it’s not only because I didn’t want Nurse Park to be evil, it’s because I can see an enormous plot hole around. Why is she alive? If we are going to the “memories are deceitful” I’ll be terribly disappointed.
And can someone explain me what was Mr. Kim doing in the flashback. He wasn’t a patient in Ok Hospital but in KT’s previous hospital. Is the show telling us that Nurse Park retrieved the knife that was thrown away and left it in his room for him to use it? And with all those cameras around? She’s not a nurse in that hospital? What was that about? Do we really need to know that? Was it to establish she’s nuts?
Anyway, the thing I liked the most in this episode was JaeSu. I will never praise him enough. He’s the best friend ever, and probably the wisest.
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Ashes2Ashes
August 4, 2020 at 3:20 AM
Yeah that whole call back to EP 1 was beyond random! I was about to pull my hair out for the very reasons you have mentioned that'd make it an impossibility for her to get anywhere close to the patient(who btw had just been caught attacking a celebrity so would've been under even more supervision than usual). Unless ofc she's now such a super nurse that her credentials let her 'guest' nurse???🙄
But it's such a weird tangent! I would've been ok with it if the death of that patient was in anyway mentioned as more than one line in EP 2 and had any kinda impact on MY's trajectory thereafter. And what was it supposed to show? That she shadowed MY alll the time and was disgruntled by how MY didn't get to slit his throat so went back and ensured it herself? Or was it supposed to be revenge for daring to cut her precious 'creation'? By that logic why was the creepy journo spared then??The guy who not only was creepin' on MY but also besmirched DJ and belittlingly said her success was down to her looks..Arghh
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Eazal
August 4, 2020 at 6:04 AM
I had to laugh at the "guest" nurse 🤣
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Gabe
August 4, 2020 at 8:05 AM
The show made too much of showing us that patient had died in episode 1, and with a knife that shouldn't have been anywhere near his reach, for that plot event to be left unexplained. I do think it's meant to show us the depths to which Nurse Park (I still don't buy its actually the woman we saw fall to her probable death) has gotten herself involved in MY's life.
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bbstl 🧹
August 5, 2020 at 9:48 AM
The whole ep1 part was so confusing to me. If Nurse Park was at that hospital with Kang Tae before, then didn’t she just arrive at OK Hospital, too? But everyone treats her like she’s the senior nurse and she has a long relationship with the director, it seems like. Maybe I’m just not thinking this through enough 🤷🏼
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11 uzistar
August 4, 2020 at 12:07 AM
One of the things I like about this drama is the excellent acting from the cast, and I think that this episode is Seo Ye Ji’s. Her emotions and struggles felt genuine when she was surprised upon hearing Sang-tae talk about his mom’s murder, and when she embarrassingly apologized to Sang-tae as he was feeding her porridge. I really love Moon-young here. I like how she asked Kang-tae to give her some time alone. “I’m not running away, so stop following me. I need some time to think on my own,” is the mature way to respond and I’m glad that it’s what she did. Also, I may not agree with where this show is going with regard to Do Hui-jae, as I’ve said last episode, but I’m proud that Moon-young is once again facing this head-on, and we’re seeing her fierce side again. I just hope she’ll stay safe.
But I don’t understand why Kang-tae decided to separate the two people he wanted to protect, without even entrusting one to someone who could be with him/her 24/7. He knows how dangerous the enemy is so why did he do that?
As commented above, I also think that Moon-young’s mom was creepier when she was just part of MY and dad’s memories than when it was an actual person. I personally prefer stories about the characters’ inner struggles than those with external conflicts. The drama has shown the former well throughout most of the episodes so I was hoping it would stay that way. But well, Do Hui-jae is already here. I only want the best for our little family so I hope they’d survive this unharmed.
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uzistar
August 4, 2020 at 12:26 AM
I love it whenever Sang-tae acts as the big brother and here it was particularly heartwarming. He took care of Moon-young exactly when she needed him. I'm sure his forgiveness meant so much for MY and that helped her stand up and decide to fight mom.
Also, since some beanies already pointed it out weeks ago, it wasn't anymore surprising that that hospital staff is Director Oh's son. Though I'm glad he's nice to his father and was there when the old man needed him. That's probably the only think he did right hehe.
I'm glad that the other characters are there to look after the trio and show them that they're supported and loved <3
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OLakes
August 4, 2020 at 1:46 AM
Seo Ye-ji was brilliant in this episode. The scene with ST and the porridge was probably the standout scene for me. The absolute misery and despair on her face, so defeated that she had to be fed. And Oppa who doesn't entirely understand what's going on (I don't think even KT gets it completely), but takes so much heart in caring for her because that's his job. Every time he said, "Good girl!" I thought, how often did poor MY hear that without creepy mommy strings attached? there was so much heart in that scene.
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uzistar
August 4, 2020 at 1:59 AM
Yes, yes! =D
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DoubleFault
August 4, 2020 at 6:13 AM
I agree with everything. I cannot for the life of me imagine anyone else playing KMY but SYJ. She has really brought KMY to life and probably gave so much more than what is in the script.
Not sure if anyone has noticed this but in the behind the scenes, KSH has repeatedly referred to SYJ as KMY. He addresses her by her character. I remember takes where he asks her playfully, "What do you think, Moonyoung?", "Is this ok with you, Moonyoung?" and even tells the director "I think Moonyoung should get this background" or "Moonyoung should face this way", etc etc. It's like SYJ really immersed herself in this role that her costars and PD team already think of her as KMY.
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12 heart9
August 4, 2020 at 12:10 AM
I also refuse to believe Do Hui-Jae is still alive. I would rather go with the arc that maybe it is her twin sister. its unbelievable that nobody could recognise her in all those 20years.
What stood out for me had to be ST being the oppa for both KT and MY. Asking for porridge to made and coaxing her to eat. I had tears watching that scene. My's crying also broke my heart. JS also telling KT to stick with MY was a heartwarming moment for me. Its like he has finally accepted her in his best friends life.
I didnt like the ending I am so worried about ST, hope this evil witch just drugged. My in the red dress running barefeet to go save her family was powerful. the emotions were just on point.
I hope this fight is not going to be prolonged. I would rather have the last 2 episodes all about the trio. I would love to see KT and MY getting married, having a son and KT going to school getting a qualification he wants so he doesnt look like he is a 'kept' man. ST being more independent.
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13 Baba
August 4, 2020 at 12:15 AM
Hii! Thank you so much for your re-caps, love your details.. I was really confused about this part: "We see that Hui-jae had been a nurse at the hospital Kang-tae worked at previously, and that she’d taken the steak knife Moon-young tossed aside. She snuck that knife into the patient Mr. Kim’s room and encouraged him to take his own life."
I kinda saw her as a visitor to this patient and getting him to take his own life, or even orchestrating this entire meet-up between our 2 lovers (????!!!), cuz isn't she the Head Nurse and old-timer at It's Ok Hospital?
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14 Aidualc
August 4, 2020 at 12:23 AM
This episode gave me all the feels. While I'm not sold yet on the logic behind nurse Park being MY's mom and so far don't like that part of the story much, I still love this show, for all it's wonderful characters. There's been so much character growth for everyone. I loved how basically everyone worried for and sort of rallied around KT and MY this episode. I'm glad we avoided the cliche "I can't be with you because your mom killed my mom" on Kang Tae's part and I appreciate their good communication. As for Sang Tae, he might just be my favourite character, he's such an awesome big brother and he better be okay next episode.
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OLakes
August 4, 2020 at 1:48 AM
I'm also so glad we avoided the "can't be with you because your mom killed my mom" trope, as well as the, "I can't bear the guilt that my mom killed your mom, so I'm leaving you" one!
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15 BeautifulMess417
August 4, 2020 at 12:23 AM
For those who are wondering why MY called KT a hypocrite in the basement, MY was doubting KT's words of always staying by her and not being swayed by their ill fate because of how KT pushed her away in the hospital when he found out the truth. Additionally, MY knows that no matter how much KT love her, it is difficult for KT to have to live with the fact that MY's mother killed their mother. As such, MY perceived what KT said at the basement as his "facade" where he was trying to console MY and was not true to his feelings.
Now, I would also like to explain why this episode absolutely broke me into pieces. We have always seen MY as an extremely strong character. Even when KT said mean things to her on the beach, she obviously felt hurt and could not hold back her tears but in this episode, my goodness, it felt as though MY has completely lost her battle. This episode felt like that ending nightmare scene in ep6, just that now this nightmare turned into reality and of course it god damn hurts. We have never seen MY this helpless before and the fact that KT and ST are victims of the nightmare as well makes things even more cruel and painful.
The scene where ST fed MY was so painful to watch:
MY apologizing for something that wasn't even her fault
ST pure and innocent soul truly viewing MY as his younger sister whom he wants to take care of
the aftermath of the cruel twisted fate of our trio shown through the asking/"accepting" of forgiveness
The family that the trio dreamed of just came crashing down and the fact that all three are victims rendering them all helpless broke me.
With that being said, I am curious how ST is going to react to the news. Will he plunge into sorrow, anger and helplessness and despise MY (signs that old ST would portray) or would he be accepting of it "its her mum's fault, not her fault" since we all know ST is the most logical and straightforward of them all? Can't wait for the last 2 episodes of this amazing show. It has been a wild ride.
Also I have trust in the writer that the head nurse is still not the mother because the writer was literally calling herself out with MY saying "I would've recognised her!"
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16 FormAnOrderlyQueue
August 4, 2020 at 12:35 AM
Honestly, one thing that kept me vaguely hopeful in this episode was that there were so many odd things happening that there might just be another explanation for all this - spot the person hoping against hope for a satisfying final but closing their eyes for impact...
When Nurse Park talked to Go Dae-Hwan on his death bed, it felt like she was being overly cryptic about something - although what, I'm not sure. The filler about Mr Kim from the Seoul hospital made very little sense - was Nurse Park there just to hear MY's story telling session? Why then would she be there? Suddenly the manuscript for the 10th book's turned up - MY had it all along. Is it more than a plot device to get her mother out of hiding? I am so, so hoping that things like this are going to bring another possibility into play! I was disappointed when Nurse Park came out and said she was Do Hui-jae directly: I really wanted an alternative.
And, please, why an abduction of ST at the 11th hour? Nurse Park's been hanging around ST for ages and has had multiple opportunities to "finish him off" - is she just a drama queen who wants to go for the gothic ending?! That (I'm sorry, show) just grated too much for me.
So much better if they'd stuck to the central relationships which were stellar as always and brought tears to my eyes. Everyone just threw away pretence and we had a series of our main three being honest and open with each other, helping each other understand. It feels real, the actors are absolutely blowing me away, and it is incredibly uplifting to watch. Love it.
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uzistar
August 4, 2020 at 1:52 AM
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uzistar
August 4, 2020 at 1:53 AM
I also felt that there was something off with Nurse Park's conversation with Dae-Hwan. The way she said, "Ah, our beautiful daughter?" makes me want to believe what other beanies have been saying -- that she's not mom but someone else, who's also probably delusional. To be honest, I'd prefer that :P
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sunnysaturdays
August 4, 2020 at 9:31 AM
If DHJ is really Nurse Park why didnt she take the manuscript when she was in the house?
I doubt MY would have thought to hide it somewhere else because she didn't know that DHJ was alive.
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Cindy
August 4, 2020 at 5:04 PM
Good point. It seems like she isn't even concerned about the manuscript. Instead of wanting to see MY, she goes and kidnap Sangtae to lure Kangtae back to the castle? This further suggests she is a fake and not the real Do Hui Jae.
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17 Gnarly
August 4, 2020 at 12:47 AM
Hello. I just wanted to mention the plot hole of Nurse Park being a nurse at Gang-tae's old workplace, assisting that one patient in suicide. She had already been established at OK hospital in the country-side as the charge nurse there at almost the exact same time. With full functionality even, prompting Ju-ri to go meet with MY (all the way in Seoul atm) to get surgery authorization. So how was she working at the old workplace (in Seoul), and then knew immediately to position herself at OK hospital (in the countryside) even before our leads ever knew they were going to be at OK hospital, all in the matter of a couple of days? Plus I thought she's been at OK for much longer, in order to watch Dae-hwan suffer all these years. A gaping plot hole smh.
And so much for "new/old mom" watching over MY as Nurse Park claimed. She has stood by at least twice while MY has been physically assaulted and has barely even looked her way. Soooo not buying this arc and I'm sincerely hoping for a solid, PLAUSIBLE wrap-up to all this next weekend.
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Palaa
August 4, 2020 at 1:11 AM
Yess! I noticed that too. Maybe she only pretended to be a nurse at GT's old hospital?
Plus, GT would have known nurse Park if they used to work at the same hospital.
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Sunila
August 4, 2020 at 2:39 AM
Yes, even I am confused about that. Also why did she encourage that patient to commit suicide? It was not even relevant to her “cause”. I guess the only explanation is that she is crazy.
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Miss_elly
August 4, 2020 at 4:58 AM
could be cause he tried to damage her "creation" if we have learned anything about her, is that the only person who could have control over MY life, death and everything else is her.
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DoubleFault
August 4, 2020 at 6:20 AM
In the first ep, that patient wanted to commit suicide with his young daughter. MY came to the defense of the kid, probably seeing herself in her because her dad repeatedly tried to kill her too. I remember MY telling the dad that, if he is brave enough, he should just kill himself and die alone without stringing his daughter along. I think that was the reason why Do Hui Jae, as the nurse, slipped the knife into the patient's room for him to kill himself, which is what happened.
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Gabe
August 4, 2020 at 8:09 AM
I don't think we are expected to imagine she worked at that hospital - instead, she impersonated staff and got herself into that room to give the man the knife and prompt him to commit suicide. The city they are in appears to be only a few hours ride from Seoul, so its a distance that can be covered for a day trip.
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18 dee23
August 4, 2020 at 12:57 AM
I just want the camping car and our trio, safe and sound, in it. To finale week!
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SailorJumun
August 4, 2020 at 3:03 AM
Yes, please! They can hang the family portrait in the car~~ 🚙
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dee23
August 4, 2020 at 3:19 AM
Exactly!
Thanks for recap @sailorjumun. 😁
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dogemama
August 4, 2020 at 9:48 AM
this is all i really want and hope for.
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19 LemonyLite
August 4, 2020 at 1:20 AM
I hate how Sang-Tae was treated by his brother this episode. It makes no sense, either. Kang-Tae knows the butterfly painting isn't a harmless prank, but even if it were, he knows how deep this butterfly trauma is for Sang-Tae. I understand he was worried about MY but he should have helped his brother first... when he went to get him, I fully expected Sang-Tae to be angry with Kang-Tae but that didn't happen, either. I understand ST has been growing a lot and started dealing with his trauma but this isn't a minor thing, this is literally the one thing he has been fearing all his life.
I was already annoyed a few episodes ago when KT found the note with the threat and the butterfly and he still told his brother that they shouldn't run but face the trauma. Like... if there was ever a time to run then it's when there's an actual person coming after ST, right?
Anyways, why on earth did nobody warn ST of the nurse? They didn't have to tell him the full truth, they could have just said that she's dangerous and not to trust her. I know the episode was supposed to end with ST kidnapped but Nurse Park could have still done that. For example, if the others had told ST only the partial truth then she could have told him who she actually (supposedly) was and got him that way when he has a breakdown.
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heart9
August 4, 2020 at 1:39 AM
I agree with you. I think they should have warned ST about Nurse Park. It does not make sense they didnt. Even if they didnt tell him all the details.
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Sunila
August 4, 2020 at 2:42 AM
Exactly my thoughts! I saw the kidnapping coming when Kang Tae told Sang Tae to be by himself at the apartment. What was he thinking? He knew it well that Sang Tae is a person of interest for Hui Jae.
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OLakes
August 4, 2020 at 6:31 AM
I think this has an element of the classic "by not telling you, I'm protecting you" trope, combined with the well-established fact that KT is basically not going to win any awards for effective communication anytime soon. My guess is that KT thought he was tucking ST up safe with JS (who it's mentioned does know who NP is and what's going on now) and probably assumed (not unreasonably) that the greater threat from NP would be to MY. He alludes to this a few times, including when he tells her he won't leave her by herself, though she is perhaps the more prescient of the two when she reminds him that NP has been watching ALL of them and then tells him to go protect ST. On the other side of this, I'd say it was definitely poorly handled but more a tragedy of placing ones bets poorly, I'd say.
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kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 10:38 AM
Hmm I think Kang-tae made a choice between supporting the more vulnerable person. Because Sang-tae improved so much, I felt he was safe when Kang-tae ran away after Moon-young because while Sang-tae was traumatized, he was in no actual danger. Moon-young being alone after that reveal however does not at all sound safe to me. That's why I agree with Kang-tae's decision. As for Kang-tae's decision to stay and face the butterfly when someone was threatening them...I see your point. I still would have made the same decision as Kang-tae since he knows running will not make the threat go away. Boy doesn't even own a passport so where is he gonna run with his brother where the butterfly can't catch up to him? I think it's safer to have one's feet planted firmly and expect the danger than run from it with a false sense of safety. That being said, I CANNOT AGREE MORE that Sang-tae needed to be warned about Nurse Park. Like what the hell?
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LemonyLite
August 4, 2020 at 12:58 PM
I mean, I didn't want them to actually run after finding that note. I just meant... they ran because of imaginary butterflies all their lives but the episode in which an actual threat appears is the same episode where KT basically tells ST that it's all in his head and that there's nothing to fear.
I feel like he should have at least told others about the butterfly note so that they can keep an eye out for ST.
KT could have just told ST about a dangerous person (Ok-Ran) being around and to be cautious....
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kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 1:40 PM
Yes I totally agree with you. Kang-tae took the risk way too lightly and it made it so easy for Sang-tae to be kidnapped.
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OLakes
August 5, 2020 at 2:07 AM
What's a bit strange to me is that KT certainly wasn't trying to keep it a secret - he involved both SI and JS and very openly told them the situation. So why didn't they rally the whole tribe together to tackle this as one? That I just did not get.
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bbstl 🧹
August 5, 2020 at 9:59 AM
And where are the police by now, anyway? The Director should have called them in immediately.
20 asterell
August 4, 2020 at 1:34 AM
If Nurse Park turns out not to be Do Hui-jae, the biggest red flag for me is that Nurse Park in this episode just doesn't seem to carry the batshit cray cray gene that Do Hui-jae clearly had in the flashbacks. @sailorjumun attributes it to the fact that the reveal is never as satisfying as the hidden, which I think is almost always the case, but maybe there's a reason for it in this drama. Even in the ep 13 flashback when we finally saw Do Hui-jae's face, one minute was enough to support Ko Dae-hwan's characterization that hiding beneath an innocent face is a monster, but Nurse Park didn't possess that psycho depth. Her final scene with Ko Dae-hwan felt really flat, like that's it? As I was watching her scenes in ep 14, I noticeably felt as if the drama was trying to make her look creepy via loud, dramatic music than her acting itself, as if the directors saw their footage and thought - 'she isn't convincing enough'. The way she twirled in front of ST certainly doesn't hold up to how I thought Do Hui-jae would have done it. It's hard to believe that this is a casting issue.
There's a lot of other small details that are still left unanswered. Whose floating body is that in the lake, why did I always feel as if Nurse Park was angling for information, why did she ask ST to go see flowers and hum the tune, ask Dr. Oh about Ko Dae-hwan's motive, etc. Idk, she should be the most informed out of all the characters which would make these actions unnecessary. There could have been other ways for the drama to make the viewers suspicious. I hope ultimately, she is an imposter - her acting certainly feels like it.
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FormAnOrderlyQueue
August 4, 2020 at 2:09 AM
Great comment! I'm fully supporting this - that we're being led on to believe Nurse Park is DHJ when she isn't. I'm hoping the explanation as to why she's impersonating is epic!
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OLakes
August 4, 2020 at 2:17 AM
I'm with you in giving the show the benefit of the doubt and hoping for an epic reveal!
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uzistar
August 4, 2020 at 2:15 AM
I agree. There's something about Nurse Park that makes it hard for me to believe she's the same Do Hui-jae we've known throughout the drama. Her conversation with Dae-hwan was strange.. the way she said, "Ah, our beautiful daughter?" makes me want to believe what other beanies have been saying -- that she's not MY's mom but someone else, who's also probably delusional. She may just be putting on an act, and I think I'd prefer that :P
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sunnysaturdays
August 4, 2020 at 3:36 AM
I read a fan theory by drama hyung that explains that nurse Park is actually do Hui jae's sister and just believes she's do Hui jae like the sister in the movie a tale of two sisters. I am convinced because of all the reasons you mentioned.
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LemonyLite
August 4, 2020 at 3:40 AM
I hope so much that you are right! I still haven't given up hope but then I am usually the one viewer having faith in dramas which have gone off the rails until the very last minute 😅
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DoubleFault
August 4, 2020 at 6:26 AM
Could it be because of Jang Yong Nam? Don't get me wrong. I like the actress but I'm not sure I was as swayed by her acting as DHJ. i was actually hoping for a short cameo, a la the criminal in the movie Seven (when it was revealed to be Kevin Spacey), from a Kim Nam Joo or a Go Hyun Jung, as they kept hiding the face of MY's mom.
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kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 10:29 AM
@asterell omoo I couldn't agree more. Something about the actress who played Do Hui-jae in the past was so terrifying that I can tooootally understand why Sang-tae carried the butterfly trauma for 20+ years because who wouldn't? I personally believe Nurse Park's acting as Do Hui-jae has been phenomenal, but something about the direction and camera angles when showing (or mostly not showing) the other actress as Do Hui-jae in the past was exponentially scarier. What stood out to me most was Moon-young being in disbelief and stating that she would have no doubt recognized her mother even after all these years. Like Moon-young, I think the audience is feeling the same sense of disconnect? I almost hope what you're implying is the case...
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21 jillian
August 4, 2020 at 2:01 AM
I get that Kang Tae kept the truth from his brother to avoid him from panicking. I felt he shouldve been told a version of the truth to prevent Nirse Park from having access to him. Like tell him that he should stay away from her and notify him immediately if he sees her around.
Now about Moon Young, I feel bad that she blames herself for what her mother did. She is no way at fault. That seen with her and Sang Tae in her room was heartbreaking.
I agree that they should stick together. Jae Su was spot on with his advice.
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kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 10:22 AM
YES. what's with all the lying still (he told Sang-tae the three-winged butterfly had nothing to do with his mother's killer; that took the element of risk and edge so Sang-tae was not prepared) and withholding of information. Its insane how he's still doing it. But at the same time I get that he has a lot on his plate and maybe he didn't want to rush into it. Its still frustrating...
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LemonyLite
August 4, 2020 at 1:00 PM
Yes that bothered me so much... he literally said there was no connection at all. Why why why why?
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jillian
August 4, 2020 at 1:11 PM
Kang Tae need to stop lying to Sang Tae. He made a vow that he will not lie but he just keeps on doing it.
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22 OLakes
August 4, 2020 at 2:14 AM
The last time we saw MY barefoot on a highway, she was cold, wet and exposed, and KT saved her. Now we see her again vulnerable and barefoot on a highway, racing into battle to save KT. She's terrified. Her worst nightmare is coming true. It packed even more of a punch that that we can see her screaming his name but we can't hear her voice - she must feel so powerless and weak.
Throughout the show, our trio have steadily lowered their walls to the point that they literally, consciously decided to be a family. That is some powerful stuff. Nurse Park is banking on this being the 'weakness' she needs to get what she want - using their connection to each other as the strings she needs to pull to get her way, particularly when it comes to MY's feelings for KT.
MY is haunted by this idea that she's "like her mother" and a "monster." NP will probably play hard on this to try and bring her to heel. But if NP is the "psycho" side of the butterfly meaning of "psyche," then MY is the "cure" side that Doctor Oh spoke of. She is not her mother's creation; she is her own. She made her own self based on her conscious choices, and that includes a selflessness that has steadily made itself known. I want to see her realize this and then fly into that house in a fury that only MY can deliver and just blow that crazy woman (whoever she is!) out of the goddamn water, because holy whatever do we need to get a happy ending.
Like JS said: you're both imperfect, but together you're invincible. It's love in all its shades of yellow that can turn this story around - FINALLY - and we had better effing see that joint invincibility wrap this sh*t up pronto when episode 15 opens, because if it does not deliver me considerable time for our trio enjoying happiness and a camping car adventure tour post haste, I will haunt our dear writer and PD better than the ghost of MY's mother ever could, so help me god.
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Ashes2Ashes
August 4, 2020 at 3:37 AM
Oh my, you've beautifully laid out the impact of the scene.♥️ I was so affected by how she ran into battle not as unafraid as we often see heroes do,but a human being who's terrified of the lioness in the den but will run in anyway coz her love for GT outweighs her fear of the mother who has haunted her whole life.Although , I was initially upset that she didn't just drag SI outta the driving seat and gun the car like we've seen her do,but the running in the red dress to save her prince did manage to drag me in thanks to the anguish and desperation in SYJ's potrayal.
P.S: As moving as it is to see MY stripped of her bravado I really would love to see the unrepentant MY back in form before the series is over.
PPS: I am gonna assume that SI's gonna follow her once he's gotten his bearings and let her drive themselves over to the castle post haste.
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OLakes
August 4, 2020 at 6:04 AM
Fully agree with you on every single point! :-)
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kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 10:19 AM
yes agreed if it does not deliver i will cry forever into eternity
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Im Byung Chul
August 5, 2020 at 5:56 PM
Loved the tail end of your comment - has to be one of the best I've read yet for this show and truly laughed out loud. Totally with you on this, @CBme!
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OLakes
August 6, 2020 at 1:19 AM
Ha, thanks! I suspect we're quite the crowd now, nervously eyeing our pitchforks and waiting to see which way the wind will blow. ;-)
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23 omichan
August 4, 2020 at 3:51 AM
MVP and man of the hour goes to Moon Sang Tae. If there's any question of sang tae's place in moon young and kang tae's life, this episode dispels everything and proves that they can't do without him. I ugly cried from start to end, and our three incredibly talented actors and actress carried the emotional intensity and fallout of the discovery in every minute and second of this episode.
But the stand out scene was really when sang tae barged into the cursed castle to save moon young and kang tae from themselves. I think it was so fitting that for the whole series, sang tae seemed to be the one in need of saving. But we have seen him grow and in this time of crisis, he turns out to be the one who saved them and to be the glue that held this family together. Not discounting kang tae's choice to protect this family out of love and determination, not out of duty, and to choose not to run (which also demonstrates so much growth on his part). But we also see that this wasn't enough to reach out to moon young and the scene where they were so close, but divided by a seemingly unsurmountable wall/door was a poignant representative of the chasm between them. I think it's telling that moon young called kang tae out as a hypocrite, because she also sees right into him. I believe kang tae wholeheartedly when he says that he only sees moon young as moon young. But I also think that the wound is still too raw and fresh for him to truly mean it from the bottom of his heart (he will definitely get there in time), and Moon young sees that.
In steps our beloved sang tae oppa, who breaks down moon young's barriers in such a simple and loving way. Fittingly, it is sang tae that she is able to ask for forgiveness from and get that little bit of catharsis needed. And I believe that kang tae knows that too, and the swell of emotions and tears when he hears sang tae recount how he forgave moon young if she ate the porridge says everything.
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24 sunnysaturdays
August 4, 2020 at 3:54 AM
Am I the only one that wanted to slap KT upside the head at the end? What was he thinking? What part of "stand together" doesn't he understand?
On to other things
1) That caretaker being the directors son was surprising but makes perfect sense. That's why he hasn't been fired yet.
2)ST and MY's porridge scene broke my heart.
3) There is no way that Nurse Park is the mom. Red herring. She doesn't act like her, doesn't look like her. MY's mom was obsessed with long hair so I find it hard to believe that she would cut her hair. Nurse Park is crazy for sure but waiting in a hospital fot twenty years is not Do Hui jae's style at all. Do Hui jae was much more impulsive like MY.
4) Poor ST was kept in the dark and now he has gotten kidnapped. Did that scene remind anyone of when MY took ST to the cursed castle in episode six?Also MY in her red gown and black nails contrasting Nurse Park's black dress and red nails.
5) Jae su is precious and must be protected at all costs.
6) I trust this writer to explain everything in the last two episodes even if it is not the explanation we want. If she can explain how the knife got into that suicidal guy's room from episode one in episode fourteen then she can explain plot holes from episode fourteen in episodes fifteen and sixteen.
Fingers crossed.......
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Origami
August 4, 2020 at 4:22 AM
Very apt point for Director Oh and his son.
Also, I totally concur with you that DHJ was impulsive - leaving med-school, cutting ties with family, killing KT's Mom (if she did) and patiently working for 20 years was very odd. And the hair point was an anamoly in my eyes too. Why would she cut her hair when she was so fixated on it?
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OLakes
August 4, 2020 at 6:00 AM
The contrasting dress and nails - what an amazing detail! Thanks for pointing that out! I love all the Easter eggs this show throws our way.
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kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 10:17 AM
hahahaa no I want to slap him too. I just hope the cops show up at the right time and the drama deescalates (before Moon-young runs in and also gets stabbed) and they also figure out Nurse Park planted the knife with the other patient. lol I've had enough of drama!
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25 dramalover4ever
August 4, 2020 at 4:05 AM
My bet is that it's going to get worse before it gets better, but I'm certain that ST, GT, and MY now all have the strength to resist the wiles of the wicked witch (whoever she is and whatever form she takes).
This may sound weird, but it was irrelevant to me who the mother/stepmother was/may be. What matters is that she shows up and is done to death (at least metaphorically) because that is the necessary last step in their healing. They have to confront their collective nightmares - to remember everything, face it, and then they can move on.
It's taking us back to the opening story about the boy who fed on nightmares. The witch-nightmare will never be as terrifying when she shows her face. She will be robbed of her power.
It's sad that the witch is also a mother - a bad mother who destroys. It's a good thing that we also have a warm.loving. nurturing mother in Joo-ri’s mum.
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reighness
August 5, 2020 at 6:23 AM
Yes, yes and yes to this!
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26 Origami
August 4, 2020 at 4:16 AM
I somehow didn't like this Nurse Park is DHJ thing. It was utterly implausible from a show of this standard. It completely derailed the beautiful flow of the theme development. Anyways, but apart from that as always the scenes of the trio and their acting was impeccable and I will still root for the show as it was perfection in the first 12 episodes. It's given me immense joy and I will support it till the very end.
Now, a few things I really loved about the episode (in no particular order)-
1) Jae Soo drilling sense into his best friend and always worrying about him.
He is the best friend ever! Hope he never knows that MY even doesn't recollect his name properly (refer episode 13 :P - typical MY)
2) Joo Ri expressing her worry about MY to Sang In. Really loving the rekindling of this friendship.
3) JR's Mom worrying about MY and KT's meals and SI crying in admiration at her selfless love.
4) SI's exasperation and sadness at the cruelty of the situation of MY-KT and KT saying that for him MY is just MY and not DHJ's daughter.
5) KT trying to assuage MY's pain. I really loved the words he said to her about nothing else but the two of them mattering when she smiles at him. And that he would never leave her. My boy is in love ❤️
6) ST's feeding MY and telling her that it's okay to be fed when sick and that he will forgive her if she eats. He is the most loving Oppa ! MY's asking for forgiveness for something that she has no fault in - broke my heart to smithereens 😓
7) The longing OST when KT and MY were sitting against the door.
8) The hug between the brothers while JS watched on.
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OLakes
August 4, 2020 at 5:58 AM
#7 was so moving. The lyrics and melody so simple. In a show that rages with energy, color, feelings and tension, the simplicity and stillness of the music and the duality of the montage was just beautiful. At first I was a little confused about the first image, but then I remembered him telling her that he recognized her from the minute he saw her eyes. It really brought us back to the beginning.
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Origami
August 4, 2020 at 7:52 AM
So true. I hadn't thought of the first time recognition thing.
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27 Kafiyah Bello
August 4, 2020 at 4:31 AM
So I don't care about Do Hui Ja, she was more interesting as nurse Park. I do care that Sang Tae showed growth and came and took care of his family. That was really sweet. I cried a lot because of how everyone came together. Jae Su giving Kang Tae a much needed Pep talk, everyone worrying about Moon Young, it was lovely.
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28 Origami
August 4, 2020 at 4:34 AM
I also wanted to talk about two other points bothering me -
1) Repeatedly MY has dreamt of her mother saying that she will kill her prince. Nurse Park says to MY's father that children become obedient when the thing that they most love is taken away from them. And KT says that putting his life on the line to save is his family is pretty cool. I am not liking where this is heading. All of this points to NP trying to kill KT to drive MY into submission 😰
MY knows this and that's why she is running barefoot to save the one man who is her escape from hell. As one Beanie pointed out that its heartbreaking when she is calling out his name but we hear no sound. Please Writer Nim - don't do this! I know ST is there to take care of MY as big brother but she needs KT too (he is the one who first brought a smile to her face and took away the shadow of death). I still think ST is just unconscious and hadn't died.
2) A few Beanies talked about ST being left by KT in the hospital (post mural fiasco) while the latter chased MY. IMO KT did the right thing in going after MY first. He knows she is impulsive and it's a shock beyond imagination for her. He had to make sure that she didn't take any wrong step and be there for her this time as he had already prioritised his brother over her a lot of times earlier. Although ST was also under shock but he is not impulsive enough to self harm himself. And KT did go to him after a few minutes (asking SI to check on MY) and then left ST in JR's mom's care and JS' care thereafter. Infact I felt really bad for KT - he had to keep swinging to protect both people (he knew that ST would be upset to see MY like this, and obviously the reason could not be shared with ST).
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korfan
August 4, 2020 at 6:24 AM
Your first point, I had this thought also regarding KT.
Let's hope it isn't so.
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Origami
August 4, 2020 at 7:55 AM
Fingers crossed !
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kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 10:13 AM
Um I really hope its not what you fear.
Yea in the mural scene, Sang-tae already made massive improvement and further had hospital staff support if he needed it. Moon-young was way more vulnerable in that moment and needed Kang-tae, so I totally agree with you.
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Origami
August 4, 2020 at 11:29 AM
Yeah, the writer has shown how one needs to know when to step up for whom at different moments in time when multiple loved ones might need us simultaneously.
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29 PD1Gtk
August 4, 2020 at 5:05 AM
I just hope they can explain everything that's going on with Mom and tie things up properly.
It's been so beautiful all along, hate to see a muck up right now. Also still hating the whole rating thing.
Also how cool was it that MY said "we'll talk later" rather than running away.
Btw forever lurker but first-time poster here.
I so love this story and the people in it!!
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Origami
August 4, 2020 at 5:13 AM
Welcome :)
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30 Origami
August 4, 2020 at 5:16 AM
@sailorjumun: as always, thanks for your ever speedier recaps. I love the details and the comments you make and the discussion that follows. Will miss this show :(
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31 Jezz
August 4, 2020 at 8:22 AM
I'm excited for the very last two episodes this weekend.
So here are my details:
- Ko Moon-tae will become a successful children literature author in the end if I felt excited to see if she will be defeat or she might be survived without two brothers.
- I didn't know if Moon Kang-tae and Moon Sang-tae will be committed suicide at the final episode due to this show's nature about mental health. If this will happened, then people are sad because not only this show will end this weekend but any wishes that you want from real-life actors despite global success and TV hit drama. If this will not happened, then two brothers will bring back their happy ending like any other scripted dramas/dramedies and that's it for this show.
- So look what I found:
https://www.hancinema.net/dramas-fail-to-follow-expectations--dramas-in-the-slumps-143805.html
https://news.nate.com/view/20200802n02559
I have no problem despite this one of K-dramas threatened to slump or decline by ratings because it possibly due to Covid-19 or due to people either like a bit or uninterested a bit.
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32 Jezz
August 4, 2020 at 8:41 AM
https://www.hancinema.net/hancinema-s-news-it-s-okay-to-not-be-okay-finishes-filming-143803.html
I'm surprised that this show supposed to be shot earlier, but with a lot of my surprises, it was finished filming/shooting last July 31 or I mean, last Friday due to Covid-19 safety measures that shifted away from live shooting/filming system. I think, afterwards, the crews of cinematography and editors will have a quick post-production within 24 hours until it is finished. Oh my, that's my reason why I looked forward to the final two episodes.
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33 ahjussi clown
August 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM
1) I've read all the theories about Nurse Park and I'm in the camp that she's not DHJ cause of this: a) in episode 12 we get ST's flashback of DHJ and she's not Nurse Park (unless someone tells me that autism has elements of dementia); b) there are paintings of DHJ in the castle and they look like DHJ, not Nurse Park; and c) Korea plastic surgery is #1 but DHJ ---> Nurse Park is like next level haha. I refuse to believe a show this good could fall back on "epic plastic surgery" trope. We've seen too many drama y'all.
2) Can't Nurse Park just be a psycho who toys with patients whoever they are? After years of working in mental health, gone off the deep end? She toyed with the knife guy in Seoul, POR, MY's dad, and now, she's toying with GT/ST/MY. Does she have to be a sister/mother/daughter/aunt? That's almost putting too much logic on her psycho character.
3) With that said, I do agree with recapper-nim that the tone of the Nurse Park storyline just doesn't feel right with the beautiful tone of the GT/ST/MY growth arcs. It feels like another show. It was fine in episode 13 when it was simply a quick reveal, but in episode 14, it's almost a distraction from what we all universally love about the show. So far, all of the psychos have bolstered the growth arc.
But alas, this is kdrama. Finale ratings are super important. So like Quizno's, I accept the somewhat off Nurse Park arc. :)
4) The growth arc mixed with murder mystery reminds me of Camelia. And while I think this show is better overall, Camelia balanced the different tones better.
5) What i will take away from this show is ... Seo Yeaji and Oh Sungjae are ACTING GODS. I will follow their careers 4 LYFE.
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34 Twinkie
August 4, 2020 at 8:45 AM
I lurve lurve lurve this drama but the plot is taking a disappointing arc.
1) it is nonsensical and beyond logic that head nurse Park is Mum. Nobody can survive that massive bloodletting and being dumped into the river. If she is mum, they should not have shot those unambiguous scenes of how she died.
2) As MY says, she should be able to recognize her own mum. How can one change her looks and voice totally? And nurse Park also looks way too young to be mum.
3) So if she isn’t mum, she will be the third red herring after Eun-ja and Park Ok-ran. We are being set up for another plot twist and it had better be good. All the angst and misery associated with this mum character is getting to be a bit too far fetched and Irksome. Already it is bad enough we went down the ‘my mum killed yours’ trope. From a drama on mental healing, I feel it is turning into an action horror thriller overnight with this ‘mum’ resurrected to life!
4) That said, I find the scene with MY and KT sitting on opposite side of the door especially beautiful. It was so poignant and sad.
5) Can’t wait for all to be resolved and our trio to find happiness next week.
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35 myeverythinq
August 4, 2020 at 9:13 AM
can someone please explain the timeline of the last 10-15 min or so? So Ko mun-yeong was getting ready in front of the mirror, then while that was happening, gang-tae was in his room and told sang-in to take her far away? so sang-in deceives her and they start driving away, then gang-tae goes to get sang-tae but he's not at ju-ri's house, and now nurse park is already there at the castle with sang-tae??
Like, did Gang-tae mean "Sang-in, take MY as far away as possible for a month until I sort this out" or did he mean "just for today"--how on earth did he predict that he would be meeting with nurse park?
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dogemama
August 4, 2020 at 10:01 AM
kang tae asked sang in to take moon young far away, moon young went to her study where sang in steps in and says do hui jae contacted him, moon young gets ready to meet her mom, moon young and sang in leave the cursed castle.
since moon young has left the castle, kang tae shifts his focus to his brother, but nurse park has already lured sang tae out of the rooftop room and is probably somewhere on her way to the castle. kang tae drives out of the cursed castle, and sometime shortly thereafter, nurse park drives in with sang tae. she calls kang tae and calls him back to the castle. kang tae drives back. moon young figures out what sang in is doing and busts out of the car sometime in between the events of the second paragraph. i think we'll know exactly when she ran out of the car based on when she makes it back to the castle in episode 15.
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36 kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 10:04 AM
@sailorjumun so well put regarding why Do Hui-Jae's reveal is less scary and intriguing. I almost wish she wasn't alive but had instead left a trail of mysteries posthumously. Who knows, maybe that's what we'll end up discovering? Maybe the nurse is a sister after all?
Anyway, I think Kang-tae staying by Moon-young's side like a concerned boyfriend is the sweetest thing ever. And Sang-tae's presence there made me so emotional. I think Moon-young is going to need some therapy after this. I've been implying the necessity of it for everyone in this drama for a while, but Kang-tae has vastly improved over the course of the drama. But Moon-young discovering her mom, who she visualizes and dreams about frequently, killed her boyfriend and Oppa's mother? Yeaaa that's gonna stick for a long time and getting help will ease it for her. I just *whines* really really really hope that if we get a time-lapse of them being apart at the end of the drama because Moon-young needs space, its not some unreasonable amount of time like 3 effing years or indefinitely separate because its too painful or whatever. YEARS guys, years are so long and so much happens within years. Moon-young taking her well-deserved space for like 7ish months or something while getting counselling and having a goal to return makes more sense 🤦🏻♀️
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Origami
August 4, 2020 at 12:13 PM
Totally agree with you - MY needs therapy now but please don't keep them separate for long time. Everything in this show has moved pretty fast (KT and MY moving to Seongjin City to them becoming a family to ST growing up to be a 'hyung') so MY should be okay fast too!
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kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 1:51 PM
LOL that's so true about everything happening super fast in this drama. I hope it follows this speedy timeline! I cannot take another angsty separation!
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dogemama
August 4, 2020 at 12:42 PM
your timelines are so specific, it makes me laugh! but yes, definitely 7 mos. > 3 years :O
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kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 1:46 PM
hahhaaa. I just think the conventional kdrama time lapses are insane i.e. My Love from Another Star, Tempted, Legend of the Blue Sea. Makes me want to pull my hair out. I would NOT be able to remain that faithful after that many years. In fact, I may have a hard time even remembering my past lover's face after that long! There needs to be some promise or assurance to return or like contact in-between as that makes sense!
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dogemama
August 4, 2020 at 2:51 PM
hahaha well you know it wouldn't be a kdrama if the main leads weren't the only love interest ever in each other's lives. there's no one to move on to so they must cling on to their absent lover's memories for eternity!
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kakakash
August 4, 2020 at 3:05 PM
hahahaaaa. its ironic that my existence feels attacked
reighness
August 5, 2020 at 6:36 AM
lol. seriously, this is also one of my pet peeve aside from the noble-idiocy thing. like, how can you remain faithful (and still be head over heals in love) after 3-4 years??? i mean, i can understand MLFAS a bit because Do Min-joon did tell Chun Song-yi that he will definitely find a way to comeback. but to be still totally head over heals in-love after that many years? i don't know but that's not me. hahaha.
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kakakash
August 5, 2020 at 9:11 AM
Ya you're right MLFAS actually made sense. It was just devastating seeing her hold on to that promise after three years in utter despair. But being an alien with no means to communicate except randomly through a wormhole (does it show I watched it recently?) or recovering from illness are like the only excuses I can think of honestly.
dogemama
August 5, 2020 at 10:37 AM
@kakakash i'd been working through mlfts to get my kim soo hyun fix before iotnbo started. but i couldn't go back to do min joon once i got to meet moon kang tae. i'm sure i'll go back to it at some point, especially if he disappears for a while, but for now, i just can't imagine him as anyone but moon kang tae.
kakakash
August 5, 2020 at 12:12 PM
lolll @dogemama makes sense. I started mlfas in the middle of Okay with great reluctance due to your fear exactly, that I wouldnt be able to reconcile the two characters at once. But I caved halfway through Okay (I'm also studying so watching tidbits of old drama is a lot less time consuming and safe than bingeing on new drama). But like something about Soo-hyun's introvertism and exaggerated machismo in both characters makes it easy to watch for me and hilarious. I will never get over mlfas. I'm also really enjoying the behind the scenes and Jenga playing of Okay on Youtube. Must get that fix
37 Emperor Titus
August 4, 2020 at 10:32 AM
I still remember the suitcase in the river.
Let me tell you what is okay for me: Head Nurse Park is Do Hui-jae is okay for me, Do Hui-jae is over-the-top villain is okay for me. But she is resurrected from dead is NOT okay for me. The writing as well the directing is pointing this drama as a fairytale (just like this PD's last project, Encounter, which is somehow a fairytale, so the over-the-top love story is okay for me), but the story is refrained from having magic (That's why I am also okay of seeing magic in like, Hotel del Luna). As a result, seeing someone resurrected from a story like It's Okay is not toleratable.
This take me to my next point: making Do Hui-jae to be a fairytale villain, spooky and witchy is in fact okay for me, because the story adapt the style of fairytale, and a fairytale villain is just fit in. Certainly, I would also hope that she will be a villain in human emotion, that may be less cartoonish and more powerful, but I am not so sure about it.
I said last time the screenwriter bow to audience's wish, and going to make another theory (Sang-tae is not Kang-tae's brother, but Moon-yeong's) to become true. I think this theory maybe true because of the reaction of Hui-jae's reaction when Kang-tae calls Sang-tae "Hyung"--she laughs, like it is a joke. I maybe too heavy on my words last time, because it may turn out work (until the last episode is aired, I will not say it for sure), but my criticism remains. I want the screenwriter write out what she thinks it works, not bow to audience's will, because one of this drama's charms is being “a cruel fantasy that illustrates the brutality and violence of this world in a paradoxical manner,” which may not easy to hear for the South Korean audience.
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Origami
August 4, 2020 at 12:03 PM
I think you have a point there with NP's laughter on the "hyung" word. I too found it odd.
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Emperor Titus
August 4, 2020 at 7:13 PM
By the way, people say they cry a bucket in this drama, so it's strange I did not (I do cry in other dramas, and I can make a long list on this).
Not until here: https://youtu.be/nOpP_RwnSi4
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kiara
August 4, 2020 at 7:15 PM
I cried 2 times and both scenes were between Sang-tae oppa and Moon-young.
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Emperor Titus
August 4, 2020 at 10:58 PM
They are probably the best actor/actress among the trio (sorry, Kim Soo-hyun.
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Cindy
August 5, 2020 at 7:47 AM
No need to be sorry, Kim Soo Hyun has already established himself as an young, talented actor long ago. All three leads have been amazing in this drama and it’s their acting and chemistry with one another that makes each other shine.