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Open Thread #668

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Little Boy - 715k yes - 775K - August 19

Each and every year you are bombarded with news and footage of floods all around the world and here i haven't seen a single one in this 21st century.
No earthquake,flood,Flash flood,cloudburst,drought,no mountains so no snow storm or avalanche or mud slide, no tornado or typhoon.
What a boring place this is. Still the most secure?
The only once that can bring some change is Climate Change and the the most probable one is Less rains, erratic rains causing severe drinkable water shortage and slowly turning the region dry.

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People make the nation, a nation state. Without function human society there is no nation. The ones who parrot a party or a leader can never be with a nation and long ago started to a rally against their society.

As said many times earlier - Humans like to blame others, laziest beings, highly abuse of mother earth's resources and then to have any face, pick someone and push all their -ve acts on them. Easy face wash. Then act good and kind. This n that leader is this n that, conveniently ignoring the fact that leader is chosen by people itself, have support of people, is actually real face of current society. Leader is this n that and does this n that. To oppose the leader and its support, opposition indulged in same sort of actions they accuse leader of. Such audacity of these facemasks who are as much bigot in their actions but wear thick makeup to hide their wrinkles. This fakery is most aptly visible in their actions of supposed kindness that make them feel better. Don't become what you stand against is the most cliche but simplest of answer. Don't be a karen. Leader is just a symptom, not the cause.

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brush up your comprehension skills.

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I sometimes wonder what 'real' news we've been missing out on with the broadcasts and papers and websites in the US focused solely on the antics of you-know-who for the past 4 years. What did newspapers find to report on 40 years ago?

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Live Nation, the world's largest live entertainment promoter and ticket seller stated that the pandemic has cost it 98 percent of its revenue year over year. Live shows, from concerts to theater, have dried up. On the radio I heard a man state that his musician friends have no money to pay their bills. Most bar bands are independent contractor who depend on gig after gig to get paid. My state's restaurant association stated that more than half of the pre-epidemic bars and restaurants will permanently close because of health restrictions and shut downs.
Even major studios which have pushed back this summer's big releases to 2021 have decided the revenue drought has to stop. Disney will now stream the live action Mulan movie (for $30). Some big bands have started to stream their concerts on a pay-per-view basis.
It was once said that people liked going to movie theaters and concerts because it was a tribal or shared experience. I wonder with the shift of daily life to all-digital will limit in the future these shared experiences.

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TT TT I hope not! I love going to the theater, it was the one Christmas gift I counted on growing up--tickets to go see a play or musical with my mom and dad. I don't want for an activity like that to go away, I want to share it with my kids in the future!

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I find myself watching fewer kdramas recently than my long-term average, while I spend more time doomscrolling on news sites. Few drama writers know how to write really gripping drama as well as whichever gods hate us so much can do.

Also I'm re-reading the Patrick O'Brian Aubrey/Maturin series. Love his subtle humor.

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Same with me. This is the first time I've watched more non-Kdramas, at any one time, during the past 5 years. There are just too many staple Kdrama characters, and situations, that I'm growing tired of.

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But while K-dramas are mostly chick-flicks, and belong to a few genres, the fun is how they develop them, how the actors portray the usual characters.

For example some k-dramas have plots that are the same as taiwanese or chinese or japanese dramas (remakes go both ways), but watching the differences is fascinating, and some are very different indeed (for example "flowers before boys" in its japanese, korean, chinese-mainland versions, or "you are my destiny" in the korean and chinese-taiwan versions).

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I should read more of those book, they’re very good but I’ve only read the first couple. My husband loves them.

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Same here, but with only a little news site scrolling. It's probably a little survivor skill kicking in for those of us in the US.

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It seems to average about five superlative K-dramas per year. Go back 2 years, 4 years, 6 years, and each year five dramas stand above the rest. When we first start watching k-dramas that means there is a backlog of superior dramas to watch. Once you're caught up you're left sifting through the 100-odd series on offer each year looking for those five gems.

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!

My father’s hernia appeared again, much worse than last December, and since mother and I are helpless without him, it has been a challenge to care for the godsiblings and the household and to mobilize ourselves without his crucial input. Last time the whole ordeal lasted until the lockdown started and affected my mental health, so I am of course worried history will repeat itself. One of my best friends and confidants might have cancer on top of many other life altering health issues and has decided to hermit until the biopsy results are out.😔 A part of me wants to reach out to her and others because this second wave with social contact limitation is much harder to bear that the first one, but I won’t because she wants to be left alone and I am exactly the same when dealing with stuff.

A silver lining to the isolation is that I spent last weekend finishing up a complicated job application file that had been bothering me and got an invitation to subscribe for another state job exam.🙂 The results from the other state job exams I took part in are delayed because of the pandemic, so I am still officially in the running for a few applications, hopefully until September arrives.

Maybe I should stay locked inside with my books, K-dramas and movies until then. We are at the beginning of a week-long heat wave around here, the perfect excuse for binging! ☀️☀️☀️

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@turtuallysarcastic Sending you lots of love and well wishes!

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They arrived safely! Thank you! :)

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@turtuallysarcastic I'm glad 😊

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I am so sorry and I hope everything ends well. Stay strong! Sending you love and prayers <3

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Thank you for your support! :)

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What a combination of good and hard news! Hang in there and know all us beanies are rooting for you!!!
Oh, and I hope things get better for your dad and your friend. It's so hard - but you will get through it all!!!!!

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Thank you! Time will tell and hopefully heal all ailments! :)

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Ahh stay strong! I have family also dealing with health issues and job hunting, I know it's been hard on them too. Yes, kdramas for the win!

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Thank you! I am mainly grumping here because I have not watched K-dramas for a few days, I should recharge this weekend ;)

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Best of luck for your job applications and hope your dad gets better.

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Thank you for your best wishes! :)

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Fighting! I hope your dad recovers.

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Thank you :) I hope both our dads will be better soon!

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Mine is doing better. I am now convinced I will die before him 😂😂😂
I am always in pain, but he has been healthy all his life, except for the heart problem. And now apparently that problem is fixed. So.....

But it's ok. Among all of us children, I am the one without offspring, so when the time comes, I should be the first to go.

But meanwhile I still plan to live the life of a Chihuahua! 🙂☺🐕

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a chihuahua adapts well, so I would not sell yourself so short! ;)

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@turtuallysarcastic. What I mean is that a Chihuahua can live up to 18 or 20 years, so I hope I can live those too😅😅😅😅😅

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Good luck with the job hunt and I hope your dad has a quick recovery. I also hope your friend gets good news test results back soon.

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So do I, thank you for your encouragement! :)

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the conflicts in it's okay not to be okay is not my cup of tea but I will miss seeing Kim Soo Hyun and SEO Ye Ji on-screen so much. They are literally my dream OTP TT_TT

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Looking for a new apartment in the midst of a pandemic is not easy. I want to go into apartments and get a feel for the space and ask questions and keep getting "heres a video tour!" A video tour doesnt tell me how loudly the neighbors walk or talk. A video tour doesnt let me test out water pressure or make sure my cellphone has bars in every room.
I was really hoping to be in a new space by Sept 1. All year long my dad has been CONVINCED that the corona virus was going to come back harder than ever (even though it never left) amd he was going to die. My plan was to move into a bigger apartment this month and if we do go back into shelter in place mode I would go pick him up so he wouldnt be quarantined alone. But now its not looking like its going to happen.
This past week Ive been bingeing the old sitcome Cheers as Ive never seen it all the way from beginning to end and ai just have to say: Diane Chambers is a total jerk. I dont get how Sam falls in love with her. Shes so arrogant and smug and condescending. I just watched the ep where single mom Carla announces that shes pregnant with her 5th kid. She knows that her ex husband is 100% not going to help her with the baby so she tries to pin it on a decent, hardworking guy who makes decent money. This is a completely gross thing to do. Buy at this point Diane is SUCH a jerk that I spent the entire ep yellingnat Diane to leave Carla alone.
I read somewhere that by the time Shelly Long left the series that she and the writers hated each other. I wonder why? I also read that the actress who was Newhart playing the rich, ditzy maid auditioned for the role of Diane but was passed over for Shelly Long. A few eps into season one she guest stars as a friendnof Dianes. I wonder if that was awkward for her?
Anyway. I hooe youre all doing well!

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Ah, I'm sorry that's rough! I hope you're still able to find something, it sounds like a really good thing to be able to be with family if you end up in quarantine again.

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ugh, I hope you can find a new place with great water pressure, quiet respectful neighbors, and full cellphone bars.

Diane was awful.

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She really is! This show won 28 emmys. Maybe they won them all during the Kristie Alley years? It makes me really want to watch Night Court. Harry keeps popping up!

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Now Night Court, that's a show I'd like to revisit and see how it holds up. Harry was great. I think. At least I remember him as great.

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Haven't thought about that show in years.

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I really enjoyed that show! Of course I was a lot younger, then, and a LOT more oblivious...

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In the minority but I liked the Diane years. I thought SL and TD had good chemistry and comedic timing together. And they had that quick back and forth banter that, I think, was lost when KA joined.

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SL and TD do have great chemistry. But when they arent bantering--when shes interacting with anyone other than him (and him a lot of the time) she just swans around saying that shes better than everyone. If she thinks shes so great--go work somewhere else!

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What I hate most about her isnt the smugness paired with the know it all attitude. Iys that everyone else HAS to be dumb so that she can be made out to be so brilliant.
For example. I just finished the ep 219. Its the ep where Coach's old friend dies and he learns a few hours before his memorial that the guy made a play for Coach's wife. Coach is justifiably furious. Sam goes to talk to him and Diane invites herself along. Sam tells her hes been friends with Coach for over 20 years. He knows how to talk to him. Diane smirks and says "Ill be right here when you fail". Maybe it would have been a cute little throwaway comment made between two people in a relationship if she had walked away but Sam goes in there and basically tells Coach "der...get over it man! Der!" And ...shockingly...that doesnt work. So he goes and knocks twice on the door and Diane bustles in, already talking. Fully confident that Sam would be too stupid to think to talkto Coach about his anger Her big idea? Talk out your anger as if the guy was in the room.
Thats why I hate her so much because she does this ALL THE TIME. Even in episodes that arent about her and other characters have the main, B and C plots she hovering in thr background arrogantly cracking wise about how shes so much smarter and everyone else (especially her boyfriend) is so much dumber. And by the end of every. Single. Episode. Shes proven shes the smartest thing going, always ALWAYS ALWAYS with this smug, superior smirk on het face. No wonder Carla hates her. Who can stand her?

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And a washing machine. Isa deserves a washing machine.

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Aww. I do want a friggin washing machine. Thank you for putting it out in the world again.

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Sam Malone was quite shallow himself. Pretty much every character in Cheers was deeply flawed, perhaps deliberately exaggerated. Everyone could be their true self and deal with the consequences of being their true self.

They tolerated one another rather well, banded together when necessary and allowed viewers to judge, maybe reflect, empathize, and laugh at them. Kirsty Ally's character was a different kind of terrible. Same goes for Dr. Frasier Crane. Lilith Crane was interesting though.

Night Court was fun and quirky. Still, the goody-two-shoes public defender and womanizing prosecutor were flawed in their own ways. There is no way that prosecutor character can keep being "himself" in any TV show now.

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I couldn't stand Cheers but weirdly loved Frasier and still do.

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Maybe because Fraser has fewer annoying shrill female characters, and it mostly focused on Crane brothers' "issues".

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I think Frasier holds up a little better because it knows it's main character is an obnoxious snob and enjoys seeing him suffer. Plus, the women regulars are as smart as they come while being permitted to be fully human.

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Due to the character setup, both Frasier and Niles didn't utter much vulgarities. I liked the show's creativity in using adjectives.

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What I love about Frasier I think is, yes, all its characters have depth and dimensions. It's unusual for a sitcom (I don't usually like sitcoms for this very reason).
I also love that the episodes are set up like a play in a way that's very Oscar Wilde. The way that characters move in and out of frame, the misunderstandings, the witty banter, the Comedy of Errors. The fact that Frasier is both warm and loving and insufferable buffoon makes us like him despite his antics.

Also, shallow side note, I always thought Niles was weirdly sexy.

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And now I'm really missing Sports Night, my all time favorite tv comedy (next to Maximum Bob which had a super short wacky and imaginative run).

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Not sure whether I saw the entire Sports Night. It didn't seem to be on the rerun lists in my area when I still watched television.

What I did watch was good though. Too bad it lasted only a few seasons.

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Did you know that the guy who played Niles was told by a friend or family member that he could have been Frazier’s brother on Cheers, and a producer saw the resemblance as well. and they made that role especially for him? He was perfection in that role and I had a crush on him too. Lol.

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Yup. I read some David Hyde Pierce interviews back then.

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Isa! Good luck on the apartment hunt—-you are the most resilient person I know! And a good daughter. And I haven’t thought about Cheers in forever. I didn’t like any of the females except Carla. Lilith was awful too!

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@ally-le,
I am a native Bostonian and I hadn’t thought of CHEERS in years until this clip made the rounds early pandemic days:
https://youtu.be/EzOAuqhLtMs

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I moved just a few months before the pandemic. After the pandemic hit an elderly neighbor in the apartment next to me 'mysteriously disappeared' and the building manager has not been showing the vacant apartment. Because, I suppose, if you invite the wrong person in for a tour you're in danger of depopulating the entire housing complex.

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Recently, I introduced a friend to Asian dramas - and she's hooked. She asked me a question I couldn't answer, but maybe some of you know. "Do Koreans in real life scream at each other so much?"
Anyone...?

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I can't tell but I was really surprised by french people by dinner table and their conversation. It looked like they were killing each other when I didn't understand a word. 😂

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That was exactly what it was like meeting my inlaws! hahaha XD

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I͎'͎d͎ ͎l͎i͎k͎e͎ ͎t͎o͎ ͎k͎n͎o͎w͎ ͎t͎h͎e͎ ͎a͎n͎s͎w͎e͎r͎ ͎t͎o͎o͎

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I'm also wondering if you comfortably use their feet with each other that much. Does it show some closeness? In my culture, using feet is considered extremely impolite. What about your culture?

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I mean 'they' instead of you.

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Same here! Even if you accidentally touch something with your feet (whether it be people or an object), it's considered to be very rude and I've been yelled at my parents several times for doing so haha Also, stepping over people like if they're laying down and in your way is disrespectful.

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Do you mean boss or seniors "kicking" people on their shins?

That disturbed me too. But I have always assumed it is fake dramatization played for (supposedly) laughs.

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I was in Korea for only 3 weeks, so I can't say anything about screaming at home, work etc. But there were a few times when I was in a restaurant, that people at the table next to me were screaming at each other. And nobody cared... My boyfriend (who then lived there for six months) told me that he got used to situations like this, so I guess it happens quite frequently.

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Interesting. Thanks. I hope the question wasn't over generalizing a whole population, but what you said about screaming in the restaurant was telling!

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Quick question, what's the difference between ꜱᴄʀᴇᴀᴍɪɴɢ and ʏᴇʟʟɪɴɢ?

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Good question - guess I should be more specific. I consider screaming is a higher pitched voice while yelling is lower pitched. Just a guess...

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I'd say screaming involves a more hysteric emotion, and can connotate less words just sound, whereas yelling carries a connotation of a heated argument, but more words. We'd say someone screamed in the night when they were surprised by a killer, but the polititions ended up yelling at each other during a debate.

In *most* situations you can substitute tp scream for to yell, but I think there are some distinctions. re: the pitch of voice also seems like a good note.

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I don't know about the yelling, but I've always wondered if they hit and slap each other as much in real life!
Congrats on getting your friend hooked!

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There were some American- Koreans who were very surprised by aggressiveness and violence on streets produced by men and drunk women as well and tried to protect a woman when they saw them someone beating them and they were told that that's normal there and they shouldn't interfere. I hope it will change.

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Mmm good questions. I lived in Korea for about a year and a half, and I actually can't say I heard more people screaming there than at any other places I've lived at (definitely not on the subway or in other more public areas, they're very consciencious of the fact they're in public). I can't speak for what happens later at night in restaurants and other places though, I didn't really take part in the night life haha

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I should correct myself too--while not screaming, it isn't uncommon for family members etc. to be rather blunt with each other, a tone that might feel kind of like yelling/being upset. But it never seemed too antagonistic.

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When I lived in South Korea, I rode buses exclusively--and that's the only place I experienced the screaming. I remember one time when two women had some sort of disagreement after they boarded the bus, and they screamed at each other until I reached my destination and disembarked. Another time I was on a bus that slightly collided with a "garden tractor" at an intersection. The screaming that went on, and on, over that delayed the bus for 30 minutes.

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Yes. Yes they do. At least wives do to their husbands. Lol.

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Not in my family, and according to my mother, never in her family. According to her (90+) the culture depicted in much of kdramas has nothing to do with good manners, good family, good anything. Much worse than the screaming, She cannot see all the parents hitting their children without getting angry.

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I'm with her. The hitting of children, including adult children really bothers me. Second to that is hitting spouses whether it's the wife or husband doing the hitting.

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A long time ago I heard a description of Korean culture that I don't know if its at all descriptive or grossly offensive. The term was "The Irish of East Asia." Apologies for repeating if it was inappropriate.

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I've heard that saying too!

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Hi Beanies! Hope you had a good week! This week was much better than last week in terms of productivity and my mood. Dramawise I haven't made much progress with CRASH LANDING ON YOU, HOSPITAL PLAYLIST AND WAS IT LOVE. However I did add a couple of dramas into the rotation:

IT'S OKAY TO NOT BE OKAY: This show is flawed and there are things I can seriously nitpick, but I really like it. I'm kinda sad it's ending this weekend, but I'm ready for it's conclusion. Oh Jung Se is just phenomenal and I didn't realize he was in WHEN THE CAMELLIA BLOOMS.

MY LOVE FROM ANOTHER STAR: Since I now understand people's love of Kim Soo Hyun, I decided to check this out. I'm about 6 or 7 episodes in and while there is something about it that doesn't flow for me, I am starting to get invested. I like seeing the relationship between the two leads grow and Jun Ji-Hyun's character is great.

Have a good week!

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Same here about CLOY. I'm on ep 13 (still) and I told myself I would finish it this week but I'm just not finding the motivation anymore. I love the leads but idk...

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The leads are the only reason why I want to stick with it. I was trying to watch an ep a week, but that has not happened. I'm about to start ep 6. Maybe I will try to get to ep 8 and if I'm not motivated will just drop it which hurts to say.

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My problem with it is the constant back and forth between being with each other and leaving each other that it makes it seem so repetitive. I understand that it's sort of necessary because of the whole premise but I feel like it can get to be too much. I really do want to finish it, though.

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Jun Ji Hyun Was PHENOMENAL as Songyi. I don't anyone else being able to pull that role off.

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She's really great! She's one of the highlights of the show for sure.

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Hi everyone happy ŐŤ
So am watching a lot of dramas and there is so much more to see and dramaland is delivering full time
I̳T̳'̳S̳ ̳O̳K̳A̳Y̳ ̳T̳O̳ ̳N̳O̳T̳ ̳B̳E̳ ̳O̳K̳A̳Y̳ this drama has been a rollercoaster for me, I've enjoyed absolutely every scene of every episode.
BACKSTREET ROOKIE Everyone was concerned about the real life age different between the two leads. But even the show itself new what it was doing, as shown on their first encounter. Nevertheless, I love the show.
T̷E̷M̷P̷E̷R̷A̷T̷U̷R̷E̷ ̷O̷F̷ ̷L̷O̷V̷E̷ I never thought I'd enjoy it as much as I did, I'd picked up the show because of ʏᴀɴɢ ꜱᴇ ᴊᴏɴɢ

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I was thinking of picking up Temperature of Love. I watched the first couple of eps when it aired, but then just fell off because of life.

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I think you'll like it

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@saya loves TOL

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she's almost the only one!

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I love TOL too! It's among my top 10! I can rewatch it anytime.

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I enjoyed ToL <3 This was the drama that convinced me to make a DB account. I really liked Yang Se-jong here.

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Did I ever finish that series? My only recollection is with each episode it got slower, and slower, and slower. I can't recall how many episodes I got through.

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Anyone who is interested in some pearls from the world of writers?

There's one about Guy Maupassant. He used to go to cure himself to Brittany ( Bretagne) from alcoholism, not very good choice really - Britons are known as heavy drinkers who didn't considered wine, cider or beer as alcohol and he had considered locals for exceptionally savage people.

After french revolution they've decided to make France a big country with one nation and one language which is a very great idea but they've destroyed many treasures language and national identity wise. There are regions where they didn't speak french at all or mostly educated people or those who were merchants or worked for state spoke it. Even in the beginning of 20's century many Britons didn't speak french and were forced to speak french only.

When Mr. Maupassant came there he couldn't understand them and was complaining a lot in his correspondence about it. I can understand his point but his description of those people made me mad at him.

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Ahhh, whining about language and those who speak it. It has always been and likely always will be. Anyways, where are you reading this? I'd love to take a gander at it.

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Two years ago I was started to learn Britton and they've read few passages of his correspondence in one documentary and I started to be curious about it. I don't remember which documentary it was but here is a link to his complete work, where you can find it. I have to reread it and when I'll find it I'll tell you.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/45119/45119-h/45119-h.htm

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Merci.

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De rien.

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Ah Brittany! What a beautiful place and amazing food.

And the whole suppression of the cultural identity is something which happens all the time in the world.

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I know. It's such pity that some cultures are wiped out without being sorry about it. There's so much to offer and it's fascinating how the language works.

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Pardon me while I continue to ramble and consider what is happening in current events.

I respect the ideals that my nation was founded on. I also am pretty cognizant of where those ideals and the founders fell short. I respect the documents that codify my nation’s governance, as well as the offices that were created to uphold those rights and laws. However, I do not have to agree or like, or even respect the individuals that others have inexplicably placed within those offices. I especially do not have to like or respect those in office who are doing everything they can to systematically dismantle the systems that were writ to protect and serve the people in my country, especially those who most need that protection. If I indulge in acts of protest, that is not an act of defiance against the ideals of my nation, it is in fact, an act that is embedded in the very fiber of what my country was founded on: Fighting against the grinding heel of tyranny to assert an equal and equitable right of freedom to live and pursue a path to happiness.

The tantrums of Karens, and the so-called leader of my country, are not protests for equality and freedoms, they are instead the results of those who are afraid that their place within society is being eroded, that they will no longer have the upper societal hand when the blinders of privilege and a long entrenched caste system is stripped away. It’s strangely fitting how the wearing of a mask has revealed the divide that was so long masked here.

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Amen. Well said as usual. You are so right about the Karens. I had just read an article about how those Karens who refuse to wear masks don't mind covering their faces with plenty of make-up to create a false image.
Sorry, off subject but you got me going:
On an aside and a random thought, having to do with politics and our beloved leader: I just thought Trump wants to ban Tik Tok because it's his revenge against the kids who used Tik Tok to ruin his meet in whatever city it was (I forget what city). Regardless of whether or not China is gathering info on all us nobodies.
As for me, I'm thinking I should download all my favorite C-dramas onto a USB before Trump bans even that. (Esp ones shown by Tencent).
I don't understand how his executive power
My friend says all this blaming China for everything is to take focus off of Russia.
Trump's use of executive power smacks of Xi, Putin, et all. How do conservatives who don't believe in big gov't buy into this?
But back to your post: I have friends and family (as we all do) who totally buy into the us poor white Caucasians have been mistreated too long and we want our white privilege back. Freedom has turned to selfish thoughtlessness.

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No edit button...how did that random half sentence get inserted? Sorry!

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Oh yeah, Trump has no idea what industries he's going to affect with this order. I see some gamers are panicking, and I'm sure some US media companies are scrambling to speak to the WH right now and say, wtf are you doing?

Same about the friends (no longer) and family (well, I can delete them from sm, but not the family tree) buying into the narrative of the poor mistreated whites, but then they back the very people who have made the policies that most hurt them economically. smh

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So far, White House confirmed the EO only pertains to WeChat. Gaming companies are not affected. As for the rest of Tencent businesses, don't know yet.

As far as privacy is concerned, seems like Tiktok and WeChat are no worse than Trump's official election app. Who knows what his people are doing with the data or whether they sell the data.

As far as WeChat is concerned, cutting off one of the few and major methods to communicate with people in China sounds very unreasonable. Unless, one starts thinking maybe this has less to do with Chinese government getting whatever data it wants but more has to do with such data not easily being accessible to various US agencies.

Chinese government this year reprimanded and fined a bunch of its own tech companies for violating user privacy. Obviously itself excluded.

Trump, despite his bellicose about Xi, seems to really admire dictators and authoritarian regimes. Not surprising he would emulate Chinese government actions whenever he can.

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A U.S. government contractor embedded tracking software in the apps of millions of smartphone users

https://apple.news/Av-DWOxycTa6AiCVn9ePf4w

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@snickers, not shocked, but wow, this is not great.

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Exactly. We need to clean our own house first before demonizing other countries. For example, in the name of "freedom", "democracy" and "capitalism", the U.S. has set up dictators in other countries to benefit American businessmen, not the people.
I could go on but this would b e rather lengthy.

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@linda-palapala Trump uses his and the feds powers to do what benefits him the most. With this firmly in mind, his policies and executive orders all "make sense".

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People in the US mainly assumed that Trump's currently very vague Ticktok and WeChat bans will only affect the US. Given Apple is a US entity, it's possible that the final decision is to make Apple remove these apps from its App Stores worldwide, thereby screwing over every user in the world, and in turn, screwing over Apple!

People in China were asked in a new online poll choosing between given up WeChat or Apple devices. Significant number of respondents picked giving up Apple devices.

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I thought Apple and Facebook give informations to US government after 2001 and Europe had issues with it few years ago. So there isn't only China who's doing it.

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Exactly.

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Are you looking for logic? There is no logic here, just petty retaliation without thought to the repercussions.

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I'm most concerned about how we are going to repair the damage Donald and the Republicans have done to our country--and how many years will it take to make things whole again.

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Right now I'm most concerned that we will have the opportunity to repair the damage.

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You're so right, but I've been at the edge of this cliff before, back in the 1960s. I thought Nixon would never be surpassed when it came to violating citizens' rights, but alas the current administration is as bad, if not worse. However, in the 60s I was sure America's wheels were coming off--but We the People were able to put them back on by the use of sheer people power.

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I get the impression the level of damage inflicted on the nation is like Global Warming. There's no fixing the harm that's been done because its too profound. The work now is to prevent the predicted 'worst-case-scenario' catastrophe we can all see coming.

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Almost all of the damage can be fixed. I think Trump is John Adams all over again. John Adams did so much damage to the freedom of speech during his administration, and it was fixed. Harding was the epitome of corruption and the damage he did was fixed. Hoover wrecked the economy and we fixed it.
Our problem is that we have to keep fixing things over and over--it's frustrating. The most important thing is to NEVER give up your right to vote for any reason. I'm 76 and I've never missed voting once in the past 55 years.

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Preach!

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Ense petit placidam sub
libertate quietem

'She seeks with a sword a quiet
peace under liberty'

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Hmmmmm, with a sword. I’m about ready to start carrying a sword.

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Amen and amen ✋🏼 I’m reading a good small book, “On Tyranny” by Daniel Snyder that has frightening ties to our current situation.

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Oops, Timothy Snyder.

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Coming from a small nation that realistically is reliant on the goodwill of bigger nations, I find the things going on in the US (and other parts of the world - populist leaders are everywhere) pretty alarming.
I worry here we get too caught up in the personalities of our politicians without actually examining their policies.

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I'm so sorry that we are inflecting this madness (and it is madness) on the rest of the world.

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And the leader of the "free" world has no consistent policy - only spews out whatever the impulse is of the day. Tomorrow is a total flip and no follow through. Which, by the way, Republicans used to complain about Democrats, the old flip-flop.
The world no longer views America in the same light. It didn't take long to lose whatever credibility we had.

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thank god it's the weekend.

i've had such a stressful week. beanies, have you ever been in a situation where you're working in a group of people, deadlines are tight, and yet you seem to be the only person with a sense of urgency? I've got this project that's running all the way until october, and we were all told before it started that it's absolutely critical that everybody's working according to schedule, or else. ominous, I know. I suppose that's the reality of working one of those high pressure office jobs that we associate with unreasonable chaebols and flustered candies. well this week, I /was/ the candy with a pile of work and a bunch of unnecessary road blocks.

I find myself thinking, what did all the other candies before me do? I guess it's time to find a large bridge from which I can and yell into the void. (with my mask on, of course. please, everyone, be safe and stay healthy!)

have a great weekend everybody!

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Might I suggest this app from Iceland where they are inviting you to record your scream, and they will play it and release it into the Icelandic wilderness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iWeMPEEuk0&feature=emb_logo

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Ummm, this is amazing!!!

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WOW that is great! How in the world did you find that video? Now I'm going to send it to everyone....
thanks @egads!
We all need that here in the US right now.

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An NPR article. I also like Window Swap, and need to submit a video to that one. https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/window-swap-quarantine-trnd/index.html

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I saw the one about Window Swap. Pretty cool. but my window view is pretty boring..

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omg this is incredible

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This is so cool! Thanks a lot @egads. I think my students and a lot, like A LOT, of people in my country will find this website so helpful. This is a website for humankind!

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Iceland is helping us all during this difficult time.

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I loved the ppl in Because This is My First Life where she's writing the ppl about the mechanized scooter (can't remember the gadget's real name) and the guy is riding the scooter across the bridge and lets out a few screams at the top of his lungs.

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HAHAHA I remember the scene 😂

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That was a cameo of DooJoon! And yes, it’s probably on my fan wall somewhere.

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It’s a Segway, by the way. 😂

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I hear he's back from military service but focusing on his music first. I haven't heard a peep about him in any upcoming dramas.

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Yes! He actually did a variety show when he came back and has a mini album!

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I finished watching A Poem A Day and I agree with some Beanies' comments that it made my appreciate poetry more. I even tried to read and understand the 10 greatest classical poems of all time on one website.

A Poem A Day is a lovely show. While I think most parts were quite ridiculous, it gave me so much laugh that I couldn't have asked for any other things. There were some parts of the show that didn't really flow for me, but there were also many parts of it that just made me feel good. Perhaps that is where my benchmark for a good drama for me is -it doesn't have to be perfect, but it has to make you feel good or resonate with you. It might have oh-so-many flaws, but if it's still good then it's that good.

Lee Yu-bi is just so lovely. I'll miss those innocent, dear-like eyes for a long time.

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Where did you watch it? That's a show I've wanted to watch for a long time, I haven't gotten around to it yet.

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There is an online platform called Viu in my country. I had to pay for a monthly subscription (but it's pretty cheap for the first 3 months) so that I could watch some dramas which weren't on Netflix (e.g., A Poem A Day, My Unfamiliar Family, I'll Find You on a Beautiful Day.) Once I got used to HD dramas I don't want to watch the good ones on the illegal sites anymore. hrrrr

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hey thanks! I'll look into it :)

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Yay! I'm glad you enjoyed it (and relieved that by the looks of it you're not suffering from bitterness or a broken heart).

"It just made me feel good". Me too. It's not a perfect show, but several parts - and the poems - just made me feel good.

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Really, I was on the right ship from the very beginning. I actually had a clue (I can't say it here as it might be a spoiler for some) so I was quite a bit confident that I should be on the correct one. Not to say that all of the 'true ship's' actions sat well with me though. I lost interest in him for a while because of something he did.

Thanks for your warning. I can't imagine how I would feel if I was so attached with a ship that would later turn out to be the wrong one lol.

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