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Do You Like Brahms: Episodes 7-8 Open Thread

Feelings are out in the open, but that doesn’t make navigating them any easier. In addition to the complications that come from past relationships, our leads have to cope with the pressures of appearances and perceptions. We’re left with equal measures of heartache and heart-racing swoons — but it’s the perfect balance for a drama that almost feels like a musical composition itself.

 
EPISODES 7-8 WEECAP

What makes a drama squee-worthy? It might be something that even the most diehard of fans can’t quantify, but Do You Like Brahms surely has that special something in spades. Is it the chemistry between the actors? The way the writing can do so much with such simple exchanges? Or is it the way the director can pull something magical out of an ordinary moment? Like lunch, for instance.

If you were worried about how our lead characters would fare after that sweet but surprise confession last week, you are not alone. I’ve spent all week not only anticipating Joon-young’s response, but mourning for what feels like the end of Act I in the drama (what with the summer over, the internship concluded, and everyone dispersed from Kyung-hoo). But fear not — Act II proves to be brimming with just as much goodness.

A new fall semester means a new setting, and since this is a drama, after all, that means new sources of antagonism and conflict. There are the classes, lessons, and crucial performances that add stress — but more than that, there’s a lot of pressure that’s heaped on our almost-a-couple-couple this week.

Leading off the conflict, of course, is the huge and horrid scene created by Jung-kyung, where she does her best to rip Hyun-ho’s heart out, and then pulls Joon-young into the madness. Even though she later apologizes for this lie-filled pain she inflicted, it still creates damage. Hyun-ho is reeling from how she’s treating him, and Song-ah is turned upside-down again and again by being exposed to their love triangle problems. But the biggest repercussion might just be with Joon-young — this feels like the final straw for him. If he had been trying to let go of Jung-kyung before, now he’s truly ready.

And it’s perfect timing, right? Song-ah has softly confessed to him, and he received it with equal softness, welcoming her into his world, being honest with her about his past, and asking her to wait for him to resolve his feelings. The “I’ll wait for you” balance these two find is, at first, so perfect, patient, and sweet. Those adjectives also apply to our couple — but damn these outsiders and outside conflicts for pushing Joon-young and Song-ah into unhappiness!

I said earlier that this drama is so well paced and structured, that it almost feels like an actual musical composition itself — it has all the right moments of dissonance, suspension, resolution, etc. Halfway through the show (weep!), I totally trust it enough to know that all the moments will be purposeful, that they’ll make the right decisions, and that the audience will get exactly what they (we) need.

But back to Song-ah and Joon-young and why their relationship works so well: one of the major reasons for me is their emotional intelligence. Not only is it completely refreshing to watch two people who understand their own feelings and the complexities around them (go, introverts!), but they’re also able to surface things and deal with them in their quiet, mature way. It goes back to how well-composed this drama is — we have the perfect mix of friction (misunderstandings, hurt feelings) and resolution (honest conversations, quality time together).

I also really liked how the friction in their burgeoning romance feeds into Song-ah’s own vulnerabilities. For a girl who’s pursuing her dream against a lot of pushback, who’s derided for “lack of talent,” and who’s often pushed to last place — it makes so much sense for that to also echo in her romance. “Is there any space for me?” she asks Joon-young, as if she’s so used to being in the background, she can’t help but expect it again. Still, she (and he) are so honest with their intentions and feelings that even their moments of disagreement are a pleasure to watch.

And so, I’ve never been so ready for an end-of-episode-8 kiss before! It was the perfect conclusion to a scene that started out with conflict and confusion, and ended with confessions and kisses. Also, the way he held her shoulders was everything. I will be melted into a puddle until next week.

In the meantime, there were a lot of other smaller plot points and moments to call out this week, and they’re hard to pass up without a mention. Simon and his back-stabbing attack on Young-in and the foundation. Dong-yoon’s confession! The wonderful understanding and insight of Young-in (gosh, I want Song-ah back in that safe place for her to grow!). Both Joon-young and Song-ah realizing that their professors are soulless. The surprising coolness of Jung-kyung’s master class. Oh, and Kim Min-jae’s English skills — hello!

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The writer really got me there with the last scene, I too, like Song-ah, was a jittery mess wondering why Joon-young wanted to see Song-ah and since it was episode 8 I had a feeling a confession and kiss was coming. But then he came and told her that he was going to play the piano for Jung-kyung and I was crushed. But then he turned it around and told her he liked her! and thereafter I melted into a puddle when they kissed.

I'm really glad Joon-young told Song-ah that he was going to play the piano for Jung-kyung. More drama's need to take notes, unnecessary misunderstandings won't happen if the main characters just communicated. I mean not that DYLB doesn't have it's fair share of misunderstandings but I'm glad this one won't be it since JY and SA are finally together!

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Yes, what a refreshing concept; a couple that actually communicates. Notice to all writers out there, guess what: you can STILL have interesting and lasting conflict, even when people are able to talk to one another!

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I hope they continue to communicate with each other. Getting together was the easy part, now comes dealing with Jungkyung and the awful music professors. I fear the worst is not yet over with this one.

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Most importantly, I hope Joon Young communicates more about his problems and the burdens he carries, because from the preview, it seems like those things are slowly driving him into depression. I really hope our boy will not take 2 steps back and can actually lean on Song Ah like Director Cha said in the teaser, because boy does he need to with the amount on his plate.

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It really is a toss-up for me as to what impresses me more, the perfectly restrained writing or the quietly eloquent acting in this drama. I love how Song-Ah's character deftly demonstrates how one can be shy and gentle without being timid or how Joon-Young can be both very conflicted without at all seeming stupid or obtuse. I am not all that familiar with either of the two actors (Stove League being the only show I can recall either of them being in that I have seen) and I was initially struck by how both are so slight of frame that they seem doll-like in their quiet prettiness, but I realize now that works perfectly with their characters because the focus is on inner, rather than physical, strength.

Another interesting response I feel from the show is making me want to pick up my flute again but also concluding that a classical music profession may be as horrible a vocational choice as one can make.

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I am one of those people who have made that horrible vocational choice! 🤣🤣🤣 It might be good to still keep in mind that as grounded as this drama feels it is after all still a drama with lots of sensationalized elements about the profession. I do consider it as a gift that I get to do everyday what I love and feel truly blessed that despite all the challenges I was able to find my artistic outlet early on in life and continued to do so well into my adult life!

Music is such a wonderful way to connect with oneself and others that I love seeing people who continue to engage with it! Do pick up the flute again and how fun to play an arrangement of the Träumerei for flute and piano!

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Haha, the comment was made with a bit of hyperbole in the spirit of a kdrama board, but I certainly appreciate your point. But as someone who who was headed toward a collegiate academic career before coming to my senses, I imagine the world of classical music is not all that different from the faculty rooms of a university except even more competitive and with more cutthroat backbiting, given the significantly fewer job opportunities.

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Same—I was on a train headed straight there as well. I’m contemplating my life choices a bit now though (being in medicine). And that’s not a hyperbole, unfortunately.

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Hmm, I guess that depends on what you want to do in music. I would never be a concert musician (I would buckle under the pressure in 5 minutes, making for a super-short career), even if I had the talent. I had a short stint in music academia, but all the political backstabbing even in a small unimportant university was way too annoying and not worth any of the other perks for me.

But being an orchestra musician is a pretty good life, right, @kimbapnoona? Being a freelance musician (I'm an accompanist) and a music teacher is also pretty good too, IMO.

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Hehe I am the jack of all trades of classical musicians!! I play in orchestras and chamber groups but I also teach at the college level full time (and even worked as an administrator for the music school for a period) so I completely understand the tricky navigation of academia politics and why one would want to stay out this mine field, @halofan68!

Yes, @blnmom it is a good life because I get to do what I love to do!!! On days when the joy of music and teaching feel more out of reach, I will just make sure that I connect with my instrument at the end of the day so it is back in my consciousness. And if that doesn't work, I watch dramas!! 😆As matter of fact I wasn't sure if I wanted to watch a drama about a bunch of antsy musicians after work but as you can see, I am head over heels for it.

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I started learning Traumerei on the piano. I explained to my husband that dramas are now making me a better person... bringing me back to music. Not sure if he bought it, and I didn't even mentioned the last scene that I had on loop ;)

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I felt like I'm SA during that scene, the feeling of anxiety waiting for him to show up, then growing more and more frustrated as he kept talking about JK and then of course melting when he finally said the magic words! It was intense @@

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I suppose the streets will be flooded this week as a lot of us just melted into puddles with episode 8. Next Monday is a looong wait.

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😂 Colorful puddles of melted beanies

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hi, this is puddle no. 37, how are you doing this morning?

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still melted.. . i think i am on rewatch number 12.. ( e.8 23:14 to 25.12 only)...

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Whilst everyone turned to puddles, I combusted into glitter confetti and still in the process of picking up the pieces. Doesn't help that I am also watching the scene on repeat. Hahaha

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And I turned into hundreds of butterflies, still flying in that room with the piano.

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Beautiful butterflies or the creepy IOTNBO dead ones?

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I agree. We usually dread for Mondays but because of Brahms, it's our most anticipated day.

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Sorry to be so random, but this reminded me of the recent Netflix "School Nurse" series. Now it begs the question - are we a huge bundle of heart shaped jellies?

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I was planning on saying so many things but after seeing the kiss I forgot everything I was planning to say. I mean can you blame me? That was one of the most picturesquely beautiful and cinematically appealing kisses I’ve seen in 2020.

So anyway the dialogue before the kiss echoed “It’s Okay To Not Be Okay”, with “I like you” instead of the aggressive “I love you”. And the most interesting thing about the Dimple Couple is the actors were building up their chemistry to go with a bang when the time comes. And I believe it actually worked. No one expected for the shy not-a-couple to kiss at all (Joon Young was practically eating her up), keep away like that. Remember how they shied away when their hands accidentally touched? And I already know that Kim Min Jae is a good kisser. I’ve seen his kissing experiences. What’s more interesting is that they’re not kissing like how an American couple would kiss, but how into each other they were while kissing. That’s what made it extremely special.

I wish to say more about the two episodes, especially about Jung Kyung’s pathetic showdown and how free Hyeon Ho is now that he got closure, or the fact that Jung Kyung would actually be a good teacher and how she might be getting interested in her ex once again. But I lost all faith I had about Jung Kyung after she lied through her teeth about sleeping with Joon Young. And in front of him as well?! How can anyone even THINK of lying like that? And I don’t even want to spend a second of my life talking about her. The writers might think of redeeming her later on, but so far, I don’t like her and I want her shipped off to China or somewhere, where she can’t come in between our Dimple Couple again.

I also want to speak about Hyeon Ho. I used to like him at first because he is one of my favorite actors and his portrayal of a heartbroken boy just crushed my heart. But he is also extremely selfish. He only thinks about himself and how he would look in front of Jung Kyung’s eyes. He has forgotten the fact that Joon Young considers him a best friend and that that same best friend gave up his first love because he values his friendship a lot. Hyeon Ho might not be directly affecting Joon Young’s life, but he is extremely selfish and doesn’t want to listen to Joon Young’s side of the story.

One thing I noticed in the previous episodes is how Joon Young keeps trying to close his cupboard with all his USA stuff in it. He has been trying for some episodes to close it but had a hard time like he’s afraid to say goodbye to the memories he used to have. But once he got it closed he walked upto Song Ah and gave her the signed DVD saying “I’m sorry I was late” basically saying he’s sorry he took so long to come to her, to receive her love and to love her back. It’s just something I noted in the previous episode and I didn’t get the time to say it because my OTP decided to kiss and melt my brain.

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So, besides that closing confession and kiss, here are some other thoughts about this week's episodes:

I wonder if we will get to see what Song-ah said to Dong-yoon. Oh, if only he hadn't waited so long. Oh, if only he hadn't slept with her best friend. Time to move on, Dong-yoon. Song-ah has someone else in her heart, someone who deserves her more.

Surprises from Jung-kyung's family this week! A really supportive and helpful master class for Song-ah. Thoughtful guidance from her distant father. And Grandma confessing that she hurts people on purpose to snap them out of their romantic dreams, so that they will live their lives. Beanies have been looking at Grandma as a villain. Did her confession change anything for you?

Young-in seems like the person Song-ah has been needing in her life. I hope Song-ah comes back to the foundation to work instead of pursuing her masters. If she isn't going to get the kind of teaching that will help her grow as a musician, then it's better for her to be out of the environment where she's always last, and in an environment where she's not only valued but also contributing to music in her own way.

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That was the one thing about these episodes that annoyed me: WHAT did Song-ah say to CEO Yoon after he confessed. We see her weepy face, than nothing. Yes, the editing continues to be clumsy.

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Just a build-up so we keep anticipating the next episode. LOL. Smart way of story-telling, if you ask me.

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I guess it's smart, but it really stands out when so much of the content is very slice-of-life and one scene tends to follow organically on the other. It makes the cuts - like the one last week where she confessed at the end, out of the blue.

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It was clumsy but if that is because so PD-nim can fit the complete kiss scene at the of episode 8 I definitely will then not be complaining. 😆

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Yikes, so true! let nothing stand in the way of that final scene!

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I think (err, hope) they'll show their conversation just like how they've shown our OTP's first dinner together. I really wanted to know what she told CEO Yoon.

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Funny how I stopped caring for Dong-yoon after Song-ah realized she likes Joon-young.

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Oh she was never going to continue to like him after she got an earful of him sleeping with her friend and pretending it didn't happen. And now, confessing he likes her?He doesn't look it, but he's a jerk.

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Total jerk indeed.

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Jerk is the exact correct term. He is not evil. He is no villian. He is just a jerk.

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I honestly feel kinda bad for Lee Yoo Jin 😂 I liked him so much in Age of Youth 2, Dong Yoon feels like such a lackluster role for him.

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AHHHH that's where he's from. I couldn't put a finger on why he looked so familiar. Thank you for solving the puzzle piece for me.

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I appreciated that conversation in the hospital between Director Nah and Young-in. You might disagree with Director Nah’s thinking but I don’t think her purpose was just to mess with people.

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I never really saw Grandma as a villain. I don't think we really have a villain lol. If anything the dumb professors take the prize. I feel like Grandma has been hurt in life so much that she tries to show the youngsters what "reality" is. They have their fair share of troubles but I feel like they're at such an important part of their life that they're lost sometimes. Grandma seems to want to help set them up for the future and although I frown at some of the things she tells them, I don't sense it being out of malice; I sense a sincere concern for them.

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Agree. Her comments are cutting, but she's not really ill-intentioned the way Songah's professor is. I think she's just trying really hard to do what she thinks is best for her family/her daughter's memory via the foundation, etc. but she doesn't know how to do it in a way that is necessarily considerate of what everyone else wants. She seems to be aware of that fact, though, so, I'm okay with her for now.

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She doesn't annoy me as much as her granddaughter but being older doesn't mean that one knows what is best for everyone else. The "kids" are nearing their 30's. Respect them and let them make their own choices. You are entitled to voice your opinion but do not use your social status and financial power to manipulate them for "their sakes." Take care of your health first Halmeoni!

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Definitely! In this case, I'm almost certain she actually *doesn't* know what's best... She just thinks she does. She needs to take a step back, but I think she's been pushing hard for so long, she just has no idea how anymore.

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I honestly saw Grandma as a villain because of her previous role in Search WWW. LOL.

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She was scary in that 😂

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I was thinking similar thoughts about Song Ah and the foundation. It's not the violin, but she's really good at the foundation work. As I've gotten older, I have realized that there is a lot of joy to be found in doing something that you do well. It's satisfying and rewarding. I'm thinking the foundation might just be that for Song Ah.

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I was one of the person who looked at Grandma as a villain but after the confession I was agreeing with the grandma that yes of course career and ambition comes before love. I love how the writer wrote that in, showing dimensions to all characters.

I'm also so happy that Jung-kyung was supportive and helpful for Song-ah. A man didn't step in the way of Song-ah's goal (getting better at violin) and a man didn't in the way of Jung-kyung's goal (becoming a teacher).

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This is a very good question about Granny! And one I think the shows wants us to think about.

The bad people in this show are not bad with a capital B. Arguably the most damaging characters in the show (backstabbing Team Guy, Dear old gran, JY’s teacher) are very perceptive – they have these insights that can only come out of their humanity. In their eyes, they think they are doing right thing even if no one else sees it. We’ll probably get more background from backstabbing team guy later on, but even when he was being really, really crappy in that conversation with JY, I could detect a hint of care, a whiff of “It’s for your own good.”

They’ve convinced themselves this is the way the same is played (rather than being gleefully sadistic). And so in a world where everyone and I mean everyone is flawed (you’ll see I left JK out of the my “Bad Guy” group), they seem especially bad to me because they don’t feel the need to stop.

All this to say that Granny still doesn’t cut it for me. She’s well intentioned, but she’s doing very bad by the people she loves.

Her track record includes telling the man that is practically her foster grandkid that he’s been a disappointment for ages, and not letting JK become a teacher, a thing JK wants desperately. It means using her power and money to “put people in their place,” because they don’t know what’s best. Because ambition is “best” obviously. She keeps going even when the people she loves pull back. Even when they’re begging her with angry words, or with polite refusals, with everything they can – to not do this.

It’s not right to blame the troubles of two 29 year olds on their grandmother figure. And yet. JK and JY, the kids in her sphere of influence, are floundering like crazy, some of their most important life relationships in shambles because they are choked by their own talent and ambition. With her cutthroat ways Granny is so caustic they have nowhere to go for the kind of support you need when you’ve hit true, absolute bottom. Then you have HH and SA. HH has to shoulder part of his parent’s burdens, yes, but their love and affection makes him resilient even when things are really, really hard. In SA’s case, her mom and sister are not supportive. But her dad is. And when SA’s face lights up when talking to her dad, you see what it means to have that one person who really, unconditionally supports you. Who doesn’t just support you when you obey, when you show no weakness and cast aside your silly dreams.

Consider that it was one sentence from JK’s dad that salvaged whatever good feelings were left between JK and HH. Because of her dad, JK goes to HH, and apologizes for being absolutely horrid. Wouldn't granny had just thought the pain was for the best?

No, I don’t think Granny’s a villain. But I like so far that the shows is not kind to her, and I don’t think it should be.

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I definitely see Grandma in more of a positive light after her conversation with Young-in and the sad look after her call with Joong Young.

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I understand SA's choice though. However grim the hope to become a professional violin performer, she wants to grab every last chance she has. Being a performer is quite different from being a music administrator, although both within the same industry. An old beginner of music myself, being able to make music of my own has a kind of addictive joy that is hard to be compared with other things.

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I love, love, love how nuanced this show is. Jung Kyung could be just a stock baddie, and yes she did some jaw-droppingly horrible things in these episodes, but show is mature enough to reveal that she is more well-rounded than that - not only does she have the chops to be a good teacher, she has the professionalism to be a good teacher to Song-ah.
In sortof the same vein, our stock gossipy office dude suddenly revealed his ambition of his own, and in one swift move stops being comic relief and starts being a Big Problem; that was unexpected.
I love how this show continues to do things so well: being true to classical music and those who live for it, being honest about relationships and all their messy glory, being realistic about such things as office politics, the commercial marketplace, and what it means to be last chair. (BTW, for those who do not know, last chair first violin - or last stand, for that matter - is considered a worse position than the first chair or first stand of second violins. It epitomes what Mozart in the Jungle said about professional orchestras: " a graveyard for violins". So I understood how she felt about it, completely (been there!).

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I knew gossipy office dude was bad news when he took a bribe for pushing Joon-young to do that talk concert... I didn't expect he would pull a move like arranging that concert talk AND complaining about it in order to steal the management rights. Because that's what he did, even if it's not illegal, it was a dirty move.

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I was so disappointed in him. It ruined all my enjoyment of his gossiping!

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Same here, and it really got me by surprise how powerful he looks now, powerful in a bad and harmful way, by the way.

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I kinda expected that when Cha said that he was from the same credit card company. When he came from that kind of background, you can for sure know he will be the one who look at benefits, commercial values, markets and businesses. Now he may not be the best supporting person to make our leads happy, but what he said in the real world, is 100% fact.

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I loved how nuanced this show too. I am starting to get very hopeful after this week's episode that we may get a more layered second-lead. I really hope the writer continue in this direction.

I felt really bad for both Joon-young and Song-Ah. Joon-young is surrounded by sharks that mostly just want to capitalize on him instead of caring for his well-being. No wonder he treats his talents like a cross to bear instead of a gift. Song Ah on the other hand is surrounded by people who mostly dont care much about her musically which is why what Jung-kyung did for her is such a breath of a fresh air though to some extent it exacerbated her insecurity related to Joon-young and her musical talent.

I am so in love with our introvert OTP, I hope both of them can break free from the stereotype and life freely for themselves soon.

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I hope Song-ah realize that her professor is just using her for the stupid chamber/donation stuff and doesn't care about her in any way.
I know Song-ah loves violin but I really want her to work for the foundation...

I love how this drama showed Jung-kyung's professionalism for teaching music.
People are not one dimensional.

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They might be setting it up to be like that. She loves playing violin but let's be honest, she won't make it as a violinist. If she works for the foundation, she'll still be close to what she loves and used what she's learned from her management degree.

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Yes! I think she will be working for the foundation in the end and organize the trio to play for the upcoming recital.
She wrote the friendship about Brahms, Schumann and Clara for her internship, so it might connect to that.

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Ohhhh good point! I'd love it if they use that again. I'm honestly sad the trio got broken apart coz I believe they were such good friends who will have each other's back. When she talked about what she wrote to get the internship, JY asked if it was about unrequited love and she said it'a about friendship. Omg I'd really love to see that.

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I would love it if Show turns it around like that...because I always thought Song Ah's interpretation was sweeter and it would be fitting that despite everything that happened, Joon Young, Jung Kyung and Hyeon Ho can return more mature and as friends again.

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Can someone explain what the professor is using Song Ah for? I know she's using her for her own benefit, but I feel like I missed what she thinks she'll gain by it... and how that relates to the chamber orchestra 🤔

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I think the prof just wants to use Songah as her lackey/personal secretary and get her chamber/future projects organised so that she grows in standing as a professor at Seoryeong. This is in comparison to the prof working with Jungkyung who is well-connected and has a lot of students/alumni doing her bidding.

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I think she's using her for her connection to the foundation, since she worked there. The other evil professor told her in the bathroom that she needed to socialize more & she remembered that conversation after running into Song-ah. V

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I feel like I've talked about everything on my wall so can we just talk about how Joon-young looks at Song-ah. He looks at her intently and when she leaves, he stares longer then smiles as he looks away. If that's not swoony, I don't know what is!

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Question is; is it kim minjae or it is park joonyoung?🤭🤭🤭

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I think Kim Min-jae actually likes Park Eun-bin. Lol

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Who wouldn't like Park Eun Bin hehe she's actually glowing like a gem in this drama ✧✧

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Can it be both? hehehe

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Its kim then. Park is strictly business but both means kim brings his feeling into business 🤣

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This is a necessary question that most of just don’t wanna ask.
Since you already asked anyway, I’m curious too 🧐 which one of them is it?🌚

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Kim Minjae plays Park Joon Young as himself. So swoony. So I look up Kim Minjae's age and he is 23. Gosh, that's my nephew's age.

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Yes! He is much, much swoon-worthy in here than any other of his works (involving love teams by the way!!) Hahahaha!! And yes, those stares and shy smiles these two give off, makes this noona giggle, LIKE.EVERYTIME!! Hahahaha

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I liked his lovelines in Dr. Romantic but those were just boyish cuteness. This smoldering Min Jae in that glorious black shirt is definitely a man.

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IT'S THE BLACK SHIRT

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PLEASE DON'T EVEN DARE TO PUT ON A BLACK TURTLENECK!!! We will all drop dead.

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I actually digging my collections of polo shirts i had few years ago. It looks like theyre back in season.

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It's also the hair. Do you remember when he played in that recital in episode 1? That hair moving with his passionate piano playing?! I have never seen a man's hair have a life of its own in a drama before. It makes you wanna come over and run your fingers through it.

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Yes the hair! I remembered being quite shocked seeing him with that hair for the first time in ep 1. Never seen his hair like that before. Like damn!

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@kimbapnoona NOOOOOO DONT GIVE HIM THE IDEA

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@shichybot Yoo Ah-in's 1930s hair in Chicago Typewriter still wins this category.

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Hmm.. Imma check that out then :) It's been on my list for the longest time. Now more motivation to watch it.

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Something about a guy in a shirt too. Just thinking about it makes my heart skip a beat.

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@shichybot YASS the hair in episode one! Its grown out a bit so I kind of miss it. It was the perfect length and beautifully styled and I remember swooning so much at that intro to him. Those were the early stages of melting into puddles.

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Yes! When was this boy turned into a sweet AND hot dude?! RAWR. HAHAHA. Never seen a hot pianist since Shinichi Chiaki (a Nodame cantabile fan heeeere!) 😍😍😍🎹🎹🎵Hahaha

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Have you seen Secret Love Affair?? Hot pianist masterpiece.

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@csmith I havent, will check it out!!

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Min Jae in black is bad for my heart!

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Righttttt

Kim Min-jae has always been my baby but yoooooo how did this happen!! His chemistry with Park Eun-bin is insane too

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I haven't seen him since Best Hit and GEEZ what happeneddd because I'm swooning LOL

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sameeeee

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Same here. The moment he flashed his smile at Song-Ah...melt....

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Don't get me started on the smile. In the ice cream scene he had this continuous playful smile. I love him!

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This is easiest the best role I have ever seen him in, the best and the most suiting and charming role!!!

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Literally dislike the whole idea of people calling me noona, but with that smile, I'm sure he could get away with it...I probably combust on the spot anyway but....hey...

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Oh really? Hahahhaha I love being called noona! It makes me want to take care of them. I won't want him to call me Noona though coz then I'd treat him as a kid hahahhaa

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you have to see the behind The scene video for this week! both of them look so comfortable and was so sweet to each other! my heart cannot stand these cuteness ♥

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YESSS!! That video has also been on repeat. I especially love the part where Park Eun Bin scares him by pulling pranks. Hahahaha

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i love this show! it just makes me squee and swoon and happy. and to echo everyone else, it just does such a great job of making the small gestures and parts of a growing relationship exciting and compelling.
while i absolutely loved the kiss and confession of JY (finally!), i am a little concerned what the next half of the show is going to have--heartbreak and more nuanced conversations about talent/passion?! i'm also curious to see how the love triangles/hexagon play out.

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The PD said the first half is about romance and love, the second half will be about their personal growth :)

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So the first time watching the scene I lost my head.
The second time I tried to take it all in. All of it.
The third time I just wanted to be clear on how many times he said it in that deep sexy voice of his.
The fourth time I wanted to follow Song-ah's finger movement. Not on the violin. On him.
The fifth time I was trying to see if the piano suffered any damage.
The sixth time......

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Good thing he didn't confess in English, with the deep velvety voice. Beanies were already half-dead 😂

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Speaking of English, I wholehearted agree with @missvictrix, uh Kim Min-jae ssi, you might have the best English delivery I have ever heard in a drama. And no, it is not because my judgement is being thrown off by all those low magnetic deep vibration that is messing with my brain wave.

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I was THOROUGHLY impressed w his pronunciation too. and that voice 😭😭😭❤️

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It must be the voice...

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Yes, when he was speaking I noted to myself how great it was kdrama writers were getting better English writers and speakers. It was great.

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I think it also helped because the writer got her master in NYU, worked in the US lol I told my sister "wow that script sounded so natural" It's rare to see conversational English that actually sounded like how we would say it in real life LOL Cos most writers don't speak English hahaha

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KMJ’s English was excellent in that short exchange.

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Oooh, that scene at the end of episode 8 was absolutely swoon-worthy! There must be something special about that rehearsal room to witness their first hug and first kiss.

I was waiting for jealous Joon-Young after CEO Yoon's confession, tho. Will we get to see it? I think the ship has sailed, so I'm not complaining.

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I felt that end of this week's episodes ended with one of my best K-drama kisses of 2020, according to my opinion. I really loved this.

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Oh Song Ah and Joon Young are just precious puppies. I was not expecting that kiss but I am glad it happened. Joon Young has let go of Jung Kyung. This was necessary, its still a mess...but this is progress. Hyun Ho is no more reeling from shock and acting on anger. Jung Kyung for the first time has demonstrated some likable traits. Her small, tiny moment shared with her father was actually more poignant and emotionally loaded than most other scenes we get with her grandmother. He sees her, he knows her, he doesn't interfere but he knew that she needed a bit guidance. The advice he gave was simple, succinct and it reached her. Now back to Song Ah, that teacher is horrible. Actually most Kyung Ho teachers are horrible, soulless human beings. Money drives academia but passion too. How come that is missing in every single one of them, rather unrealistic. Now as for Simon, I actually think Young In has reached her natural limit to do something of any real financial significance for Joon Young. Between Kyung Ho foundation directors outright disregard for Joon Young, his vulnerable position....Young In hasn't been professional in handling Joon Young. She cares for him but that care won't put food on his table. Simon is driven by money but he is more practical in his approach. Everybody makes music to earn a living besides glory. So, letting Joon Young's profile fade the way the foundation allowed is preposterous. Joon Young isn't wealthy. All 4 kids need to figure out how to balance it. World is selfish. Trick is to use those who try using you and the sooner they learn it, the better.

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I agree with your take on the business side of Joon Young so much. There could be some balances between the musician's mental well being of coz, but he was not wrong that the foundation was too conservative in managing Joon Young's career. It's still a business after all that his whole life depends on that "evil" money.

Somehow I do believe in the professors are like that. I am sure there are good teachers out there, but in the most cutthroat school and an industry that is so closed and small, built around class, ranking, backgrounds, backing, connections, talents and gossips, lots of these teachers have lost their souls. While the writer came from classical music background herself who played violin and went to University of Seoul College of Music, it maybe a biased view from her own personal experience, but I do believe it, especially in a society like South Korea.

The only true teacher I saw would be the lady who told Joon Young to get two 10s and a few 5-6s is better than getting all 7-8s to win. I need to see her again in Joon Young's life lol

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Why are all the music professors so terrible in the show? It is almost like we got four horrible mother-in-laws from makjang hell (the conductor, the two violin professor, and the piano professor.)

If you accept a student into your studio, take responsibility. Help the student grow to be the best musician and artist she can be. Foster her curiosity, inspire her to learn, nurture her artistic and humanistic sensitivity, and help her navigate and transition to the professional world.

STOP DUSTING AND ANSWERING YOUR PHONE during that precious hour the student get with you each week!!

Could this be Jung-kyung's saving grace? She and Song-ah might grow to have this interesting mentor/mentee relationship which will evolve into a wonderful friendship.

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I was cringing from second-hand embarrassment that viewers will now think music professors are all this terrible. Piano teachers at my conservatory were every bit as competitive and snarky as these professors, and I did feel they sometimes used students to compete with each other ("Did you hear how X messed up that trill?" "Y's students always bang on the piano" *groan*), but they were excellent teachers.

I have had a few instances at uni where teachers answered the phone during lessons (wasting my precious hour which cost a small fortune). One semester I got unlucky with a teacher who didn't correct me much. Nobody has ever dusted the furniture during my lessons LOL.

I agree that Jung Kyung's saving grace might be teaching, though being cynical I thought (at the time) that she was just helpful to Song-ah because the masterclass was part of the teaching job application. It seems that she actually enjoyed it, judging from her words "I learned a lot" later.

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I have had my share of teachers who do not respect the limited time I get to spend with them....answered phone, few clicks of Minesweepers, or perpetually late or seemingly inescapable potty break every lesson with newspapers in his hand!!! But then I also have had professors who would teach me for hours because they got so into it or asked me to stop by in addition to the allotted time just to help me get better!

I guess in every profession they are always terrible people who are also terrible at what they do but in the field of music it is much like an apprenticeship that the teacher holds so much power over a student both artistically and emotionally. It pains me when they don't use that power for good or are insensitive to the effect they may have on their students. 😔

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We haven't seen JK's teacher teaching, from her students I am sure she actually teaches, unlike SA's (and that's why this professor don't really have any connections cos she is both a bad person and a bad teacher lol)

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😆SA's teacher is such a bad person that apparently the school's custodians don't even want to clean up her office so she would need to do it herself!!

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But it's kind of stupid to send a student to a masterclass and let the whole university know that she's either a bad teacher or not teaching Song-ah properly.

I don't know that Franck sonata but Jung-hyung's comments were spot on: Song-ah practiced hard, but she was just playing notes without any sense of direction. (Nice metaphor for the characters and the whole episode's theme of "finding conviction"). It wasn't her fault though because she has received zero guidance.

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This REALLY bothered me. It's such a horrible thing to do. I get that at university level, a lot of your own performance is up to you, but if the professor has already agreed to spending that one hour with you, then jeez, it should be worth it!! She didn't even give Songah a lick of feedback, and then she expects her to get into the graduate programme? Shouldn't she be trying a bit harder to make her own scheme happen? 😂

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Now here is a very sinister thought....we already see Song-ah doing her bidding by crunching numbers on that Chamber Orchestra spreadsheet over kimbap....could this professor is just baiting her to do this work now and never intends to admit her to the grad program in the future?🤔😡😡

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Ohhhhhh. Good thing Song-ah is onto her. I hope she takes the offer to help out at the foundation instead of wasting time with this teacher.

By the way, how convincing do you think it is the way everyone (and I mean everyone) says Song-ah is bad at violin? If she were bad she wouldn't have made it in. Is it more like she's just not on professional soloist level? Or she's being dragged through the mud because of her different route into music, or her reputation of having failed the exam four times? That doesn't make sense. She's in her final year - she would have had lessons in the last few years right? It's strange that she seemed to drift through the degree with little guidance.
*keeps rambling on*

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I did piano and voice, so my knowledge/understanding of violin is quite basic. I keep straining myself trying to figure out how exactly she's so bad, but I can't hear it 😂 I mean, she's no Hillary Hahn, but is she REALLY that awful compared to everyone else in her cohort? I would really love to know.

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@choijunu I am not a violinist but I teach at the college level and I am scratching my head too! 😅🤣🤣 Maybe the violinist who provides the soundtrack didn't get the memo that the character's playing should be worse sounding?

@wishfultoki, it is not convincing to me at all so I don't understand why not just teachers but also students are so critical of her playing? It almost feels like some perverse mob mentality. The gentle and quiet Song-ah is the easy target for everyone to have fun at her expense.

Could it be as simple that she kept being stuck at the last place in the orchestra chair ranking?

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@choijunu @kimbapnoona Good to know I'm not the only who isn't getting why she's supposed to be horribly bad.
I'm not a violinist either, but I've heard them practicing next door or have had the (mis)fortune to play chamber music, and I think I can tell when they are horribly out of tune or sound like screechy cats from hell. Song-ah isn't playing like that. It's probably more mob mentality, and snobbery because she started late.

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If this happens, Joonyoung better be there with like, a bucketload of hugs and kisses to help pick up the pieces.

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Hopefully by then Song-ah has become stronger and show us that brave beautiful person we have gotten glimpses of these past few weeks. And yes, Joon-young is ready with hugs and kisses, just because, she wants it. He wants it. We wants eeeeeet.

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If I remember correctly, there was Songah’s voiceover in one of the first 2 episodes where she says that JungKyung told her later about the trio’s relationship(?). So I think they develop a good enough relationship to share these thoughts! 🤞🏻🤞🏻

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Oh I don't remember that! Knowing this makes me hopeful that JK might have a satisfying and meaningful growth arc in the story!!
*plans to rewatch all the episodes this weekend

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Oh right she did! Their inner monologues were a mix of a present and future tense (this, specially in the 1st 2 episodes) 🤗

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"STOP DUSTING AND ANSWERING YOUR PHONE during that precious hour the student get with you each week!!"

Plus, she not only recommended Hae-na for the masterclass instead of Song-ah whom she was mentoring(!), she couldn't even be bothered to inform them of the swap beforehand. I may have wanted to dust her head with the infamous featherduster in that moment.

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And @dramafan12, if my memory serves me correctly during the masterclass she didn't even bother to announce SA's name 😡
*whips her with a cheap violin bow because that's all she deserves

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More English-speaking Joon Young, please. I can hear that voice reciting the alphabet, English menus, the telephone book. It's better than ASMR.

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Yes, who knew talk about management right and regional representation over the phone can sound this interesting and sexy? 😱

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When he said, "this doesn't sound right", I said, "oh but you do honey, so go on..." LOL. Hoping Chris calls again next episode. Or better yet, can we swap Simon with Chris?

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Yes! Yes! Yes! As matter of fact, People, stop texting Joon-young and start calling him so we get to hear him talking more!! 😆😆😆

Instead of just a concert make it a lecture concert so we get to hear him talk and play!!

Kim Min-jae ssi, we also know you can sing so fabulously. Will you not only play the piano but also serenade us Song-ah in the coming weeks?

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And sing in English please! Then we can't get any work done at all. We'd be jellybeans until the drama ends. LOL

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Does anyone know if the 2 main leads (Kim Min Jae and Park Eu Bin) actually did learn some piano/violin when they were younger ? Or they just took some cram lessons for this drama ? If the latter is true, then I must say that PEB' s posture and fingering do look quite authentic though it's obvious that she did not play Franck's sonata.

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I don't know about Eun Bin but Min Jae did when he was younger. In fact, in PD-nim's interview, he said Min Jae insisted he play himself, so he was very appreciative of his additional preparation.

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If I had to rank the actors on the Instrument Playing Believability Scale (IPBS) it would be from most believable to least, thusly:
1. Kim Min Jae (obviously can play fairly decently)
2. Park Ji-hyun; Jung Kyung (had some lessons or is a VERY good faker)
3. Park Eun Bin (obviously had some lessons at some point)
4. Kim Sung Cheol; Hyun Ho (Nope. Not a bad fake, but he' faking it.)

Some details they got right: rosin, which strings have fine tuners, how people feel about their instruments.
Details that are proving difficult: the bowing doesn't always match the sound, and I think the hand placings for the Rach piano concerto were off (but MAN these are tiny details and I am thrilled we even get to this point)

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Kim Seungcheol is trying REALLY hard, but it's obvious when we get a full shot that it's a fake. Hats off to him for really trying to do the fingering though!

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I think (from other projects) that Kim Sung Cheol is musical, just probably not the cello. I think he plays guitar and piano.

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Yes, after seeing clips of him singing, I discovered the musical drama 'To Jenny' where he was the main lead. Boy can he sing and play. Did a bit of research and he's a musical actor. I highly recommend watching 'To Jenny'. It's only 2 episodes and sweet show to watch whilst you wait for Monday to come again.

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I loved him in to.jenny! It's such a sweet little drama and those songs really stuck in my brain. I was singing them around the house for days!

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Park Eun Bin played when she was younger and retrained for the drama. There's behind the scenes footage of her playing/practicing. I also found out that the writer for the drama studied music/violin as well.

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Yes she did! I love how well equipped these actors! Esp KMJ, knew him as a rapper initially but never knew he can play. So what a pleasant surprise 🤩🤩

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A rapper?! Wow, that's so different than my image of him, lol.

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