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Do You Like Brahms: Episodes 9-10 Open Thread

Our new couple might be sweeter and meltier than an ice cream cone, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have some mountains to climb, too. Relationships and careers are complicated, and this week, for all their giddiness, our leads also have to face the music — quite literally, at times.

 
EPISODES 9-10 WEECAP

Sometimes a week feels like too long to wait for this show — and then we’re gifted with the adorability that is our couple swooning for each other, and organizing their days so they can meet up as much as possible. Even though they’re beyond cute, it’s their intentionality and honest attempts to communicate and become closer that I find the most squee-worthy. And indeed, honesty (and later, confidence) are our themes this week.

Being attached at the hip on campus only makes Joon-young and Song-ah’s dating rumor louder. But this time, it’s true, and I love Joon-young’s readiness to confirm it (or announce it) to whoever’s asking. His happiness in their relationship is more than evident, but there’s another bonus to the transparency and openness of his behavior: there’s no room for misunderstandings.

In fact, this might just be my favorite thing about Joon-young (okay, in addition to that huge smile when he’s giddy and shy) — he always tries to put things in the open. He did it last week, explaining to Song-ah that he was going to accompany Jung-kyung, and this week, he does it by confirming their dating status on campus, by making sure Young-in knows that he and Song-ah are in a relationship now, and above all, by being completely clear with Jung-kyung herself.

This clarity is so refreshing — both for our characters and for our drama as well. For instance, during the scene when Song-ah and Dong-yoon are talking about their relationship, and Song-ah admits her long-term crush on him within the hearing of Min-sung, who else was expecting a three-pronged disaster? I feel conditioned by dramas to expect misunderstandings and communication snafus.

Instead, thanks to their communication skills, Joon-young and Song-ah were already on the same page, and already understood each other and their past entanglements. And so, instead of them clashing over this encounter, Joon-young was able to comfort her. And boy, was it cute.

In fact, it’s the emphasis on honesty and communication in this drama that makes the lack of it so startling. The fall-out between Song-ah and Min-sung (I hope it’s temporary!) was the perfect example of what happens when we don’t communicate. For that matter, so is the crash landing that Jung-kyung and Hyun-ho’s relationship took as well.

Even though sometimes these secrets are kept to keep feelings from getting hurt (which is Song-ah’s reasoning for keeping her long-term crush a secret), our story is clear that this never goes well, and that even the best intentions can wind up hurting people in the end.

This is why, even with all the intention and openness between Joon-young and Song-ah, I remain a little worried about the parts of their lives that they’re not talking about with each other. It’s those emotional snags and stressors that, when ignored or skated over, can start to crack the beautiful bond they have. And no one wants to see that happen.

What are some of the things that are becoming those red flags for our couple? One is their professional lives and the “professors” that are supposed to be mentoring them. Both of these characters/relationships upset me, but while I think it’ll be easier for Song-ah to realize what’s going on and extricate herself from being used so awfully, it’s Joon-young that worries me a little more.

He and PROFESSOR YOO TAE-JIN (Joo Suk-tae) have a long-standing relationship that’s more than a little complicated. They understand each other well, but Professor Yoo also knows how to get right to the core of Joon-young’s vulnerabilities.

Even though the scenarios are very different, it’s as if both Joon-young and Song-ah’s professors are shedding light on their individual insecurities. Poking holes in their confidence. Making them question themselves. Our leads are going to need a lot of strength of character to overcome… Good thing they both have that already, and just need to put it into practice in these relationships.

Finally, it’s the “threat” of Jung-kyung that’s also becoming a mounting issue. While Song-ah’s love triangle was resolved without Dong-yoon becoming a stumbling block in our couple’s relationship, Jung-kyung is the opposite. In fact, she’s slowly becoming this oppressive presence for Song-ah, whether it’s in their social circle, in the comparison of their skills and status, or in Jung-kyung’s passive-aggressive way of not backing off from Joon-young.

Joon-young might be as honest and open as he can be (with his feelings and intentions towards both Song-ah and Jung-kyung), but what that can’t cover is how Jung-kyung’s presence affects our heroine.

We all know that even though Song-ah is quiet and meek, she’s also brave and resilient. However, that doesn’t mean she’s not without her vulnerabilities, too, and I really appreciate how this story is showing us what happens when one’s insecurities are attacked from all sides. Sometimes, you get tired. And sometimes, that leads to doubt.

Even though our couple’s relationship is off to a wonderful start, they still have lots to work through — but isn’t that what will make their relationship even more strong and long-lasting? The more willing they are to face their issues and support each other, the better, happier, and stronger they’ll be. Time to get married!

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OMG. So many happenings, guys! I loved witnessing the first few days of their dating honeymoon. That giddy, awkward feeling is akin to being high, I believe. LOL. And I love that this is an adult relationship that involves skinship, despite the introvert leads.

I hate that their relationship has so many obstacles early on. And Min Seong and Hyun Ho are such hypocrites to say that they should be able to control their feelings. Joon Young and Song Ah are already dating each other, so MOVE ON.

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Yes! If Min Sung and Hyun Ho had better control of their own emotions (especially Min Sung, I think it's ridiculous that she drug out her one sided crush for so long.) this whole thing would be less of an issue.

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Ugh! Both Min Sung and Hyun Ho are so sanctimonius ("if it had been me, I wouldn't have even liked that person!") and self-absorbed... as if only their feelings are valid and acceptable. They are also projecting the errors and faults of Yoon and Jung Kyung onto the only two adults in the room, the two who kept quiet about their feelings and then moved on. Sheesh.

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Well said about Hyunho and Minseong. I feel so bad for them in the previous episodes but not anymore. I hope these two and Jungkyung kindly fck off and stop coming at the happy couple's neck. Song Ah and Joonyoung are happy together. We do not these toxic people to keep screwing off and made them miserable

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I felt a shiver go up my spine when Jung Kyung said she would just wait until Joon Young 'got over' Song Ah. SO passive-aggressive, so smug. 'I've been in his heart and mind for years, there's no way a passing fling like you will matter in the long run, I'll just wait it out.' And poor Song Ah sees nothing to convince herself Jung Kyung is wrong: the handkerchief, the caring about JK's feelings enough to accompany her, the fact that they are close enough to the same ability to play together while that is not possible for Song Ah...

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Song-ah is a better person than me. During the car scene I wanted to be HH and MS telling JK off that she should keep quiet and stop having feelings toward someone who is already in a committed relationship! Too little, too late.

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It’s funny to me now... that is what a girl said to me when I started dating my husband over 20 years ago! I remember being super mad at the time though!

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I love that last sentence btw, @missvictrix! Thanks for the recap!

This relationship is still in the baby stages and must be protected at all costs! Their communication, despite being advanced than some, still needs work though. I hope they overcome the challenge and gain confidence by proving their love.

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I couldn't help myself ^^

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Oh, the angst.. it has started. We all know it is coming though, but I am confident the OTP can overcome these challenges, as long as they hold on to each other. I think there are enough episodes left to see further growth in their characters,, and yes, I think there may even be room for growth for HH and MS, too.

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I really appreciate how even in the angsty moments, the show balances its "Oh no" moments with "you're gonna love this" hints. So, yes, Joon-young overhearing Song-ah's confession to DY could have been disastrous, especially because she was sitting there alone with him when she told JY that DY was out of town. But we did not get jealous accusations from JY. He handled the situation in a mature way, and put Song-ah's distress first. And in case we were worried about a cooling off between our lovebirds, the show gave us a preview of Song-ah's visit to JY's place. Same with Jung-kyung. In case we're worried that Song-ah's insecurities may drive a wedge between them, we get a teaser of a trip where neither of them bought tickets home. These two are so shy and innocent, I'm not sure that will lead to a night together, but their mutual wanting the day not to end is reassuring as we wait for Monday .

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This, thankfully it looks like the writer doesn't plan on any stupid separation. I hope this goes through the rest of our 6 episodes.

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Dunno. I feel Korea is not the right place for JY to further his career. So it may not be separation in a exact way, but some kind of long distance relationship in later episodes.

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LOOOOVED "I really appreciate how even in the angsty moments, the show balances its "Oh no" moments with "you're gonna love this" hints."

sooooo true, and those so-called "hints" make me yearn for more (and my heart skip a beat).

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Well said and thank you for the recap @missvictrix! Working through ups and downs while in a relationship makes it a solid one! Im learning from SA and JY, honestly 😅
Waiting for another week with the brahmsie beanies, fighting!

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Rewatching episode 10 again, I found Song Ah's visit to Joon Young's home a reflection of where each of them are at right now with regard to their relationship. JY's home is a big metaphor for his internal world, which SA wishes to discover and be a part of.

SA asks to visit, remembering that Jung Kyung had already done so. JY is pleasantly surprised and excited, and wants to leave a good impression by tidying up - JY only wants to show SA his good sides. SA comments on how the Kyunghoo building can be seen so clearly from his window and that it must be too bright at night, to which JY resignedly says yes - the foundation has weighed down on him his whole life and he could never escape it.

A cup drops and its pieces are strewn all over the floor. SA rushes to help him because she's scared his hands would get hurt - SA wants to embrace his past trauma and pain and comfort him. She finds JK's handkerchief in the process - JY's friendship with JK (and Hyun Ho) is still very much part of his life (understandably), though it doesn't take centre stage anymore.

SA tells JY to stand back and let her clean the broken shards because she views his hands as more precious than her own, but JY takes the wet wipes from her and insists on doing it on his own; she's a violinst and she might get hurt too - JY is used to dealing with problems on his own, because he doesn't want people he loves to get hurt. But SA is saddened by this, and further doubts her role in his life. She says it's late and that she's leaving, but rain pours. She asks JY for an umbrella - her exit from his internal world makes it rain in hers, but she reaches out to JY to shield and protect her.

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Every action, menial as it may seem, has a meaning behind it. Thanks for this :)

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Wow, this has really changed my perspective on the scene. Now the pouring rain part makes more sense to me. I was sort of lost when they jumped from her asking for an umbrella straight to her already lying in bed thinking about everything haha

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Wow this was beautiful to read. So much symbolism in just one scene. I feel for SA because she so desperately wants to be a part of JY's world but it's hard for JY to open up although he is making steps towards it. They have a lot of obstacles but I really hope they push through it. The only way is to communicate with each other, and although they are, there are still a lot that is not said.

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Wow, you are a great analyst. You should come to our cruise. @letseatcookies, think about how good fullmoon is, sure she can get a position in our party!!!!😅😄🙃

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Everyone is welcome hahahaa

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Excellent analysis, although I had a different perspective on my she was saddened by his insistence on cleaning up the broken shards himself; not only does he want to take care of his problems himself, but she has just seen the handkerchief which means his link with JK is tucked away but ready for use at a moment's notice. Not only is she not vitally necessary to him, there's a backup waiting right behind her.

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My wife saw that insistence on cleaning up the shards differently- she spontaneously exclaimed "He treasures you". And I think that this was right.

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omo "She asks JY for an umbrella - her exit from his internal world makes it rain in hers, but she reaches out to JY to shield and protect her."

*TEARSSSS (note to self: don't read Brahms weecaps during your lunch hour). went from SQUEEing in this scene ('cause of the twin bed and slippers) to utter devastation thanks to you. ;)

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I also just realised the fact that two specific moments during Song Ah's visit actually harkens back to the early days of their relationship!

1. JY tells SA that he doesn't have coffee at home and if tea would be okay. He doesn't have ice either and SA says it's fine. SA smiles because not only did this mean that JY remembered that she had ice americano that one time but also that JY had exchanged their coffees back then even though he really didn't actually fancy coffee much at all in his daily life.

2. SA asks JY for an umbrella for the rain, which happened to be the very thing that JY wanted to offer SA when he saw her struggling in the rain with her violin back in episode 1. Back when they were complete strangers. But now they aren't and are in love, which is quite beautiful, and SA is the one asking for the umbrella.

I'm kinda blown away because the writer is clearly very intentional with every little detail she includes and it's pretty rewarding as a viewer to recognise these parallels and metaphors even if they aren't immediately apparent :)

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Great catch!. I got number 1 immediately as well, and it did make me smile, but I completely missed point 2.

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The impact on other people was so well illustrated in episode nine. We talk of the relationship of the two people but this really reminded us that other people are also involved- it can never be just about the new couple because their new relationship changes all of their other relationships.

I still find myself smiling at our couple, but I also feel the pain that they and others are experiencing.

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So Beanies, how'd we all cope this week?

Here are some of my Ep. 9 highlights~~ (note that these are my thoughts/fangirl moments having not seen Ep. 10)
1. Conversation between our leads after their adorable kiss: Once again, they prove to us they're capable of good communication! It's very refreshing to see an on-screen couple actually talk things out to clear any misunderstandings, I love it and fully support it. Also, I'm proud of SA for turning down JY's offer to play the piano for her. She's doing what she feels is right in her heart. Go you SA! (I still want to see them play together though, I hope it happens~)
2. Min Seong's very relatable reaction: I loved how she screamed XD
3. 'It's not a false rumour': it's admirable that JY is proud and unashamed to tell others he's dating SA
4. Handkerchief scene: First of all, obedient JY sitting like that is adorable (and would've only distracted SA from practicing honestly hahaha) But yay to JY for getting a new handkerchief~~ also, their subtle change in expression as the music faded out was amazing, you could actually feel the tension amongst the silence as JY was about to lean in.. aND then the alarm went off hahaha they really played with us here
5. Ms. Cha: she's the best honestly I'm so thankful for her :)
6. Icecream date 2.0: from the very beginning when they waved to each other shyly, I died. Then JY basically confessing to SA a second time, I died again ^-^ Then SA giving JY a kiss first, I died once more. And thENN JY going no, I need to kiss you back, this very moment I became one with the icecream, melting away on the floor (〃▽〃)
7. Jealous JY: his subtle smirks and pouting face gaahh how adorable
8. Park Min Jae's emotional acting: the part where he's furiously hitting the piano and breathing heavily >-< those raw emotions really hit me hard, I just wish there was someone there to hug him (SA, you are that someone!)

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Episode 10:
I feel way more conflicted with this episode :/ On one side, it feels like we're back to square one with SA's insecurities about JY and JK's relationship, which I honestly thought had been made clear between Joonsong in the previous episode. So immediately after finishing Ep 10, I felt quite frustrated, as if we'd taken steps backwards in terms of progress. Yet with more thought, it wouldn't make any sense either for SA's insecurities to just disappear and fade away like that. Like some of you have mentioned previously, dating and falling in love won't just miraculously solve all the problems they're facing in their own individual lives. They still need to face these issues head on by themselves and work through them, but in the hopes that they can now rely on one another as a form of support and comfort. From what we've seen so far, I trust that in the remaining episodes they'll be able to battle through these problems one by one, being there for one another along the way.

Honestly speaking, every other scene of the episode only added to my frustration. Min Seong, Hyun Ho, Jung Kyung, those annoying professors (I can't stand that high pitched voice at all gosh), Park Sung Jae, Dong Yoon, along with Hae Na, basically every side character had me feeling ticked off. I geniunely felt like I was getting hit by a bucket full of cold icy fREEZING water with every scene.. T-T but of course, I have to remember that this episode is a necessary one in terms of plot development, so with all this said, it comes back down to another week of waiting aha.. thank gosh the preview looks promising (although, I hate how Sung Jae/Simon won't stop crossing boundaries.. SA just keeps getting hurt doesn't she ;-;)

I once was a happy puddle, then became melting icecream with all the sweetness, but now I feel more like a sad bitter angry puddle >-<

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*gets wetnaps from drawer and hands them to @kdramaboo to wipe off angry puddle

Even though episode 10 is comparatively frustrating to watch, it didn't upset me mostly because every step of the way we see our ice cream couple swooning and be thoughtful of each other. It is amazing that a day or two has passed since their confirmation of couplehood they are already one of the healthiest and most mature Dramaland OTPs I have seen (I know the bar is relatively low. 😅)

I feel that so far the writing is giving me confidence that whatever pain and frustration coming in the way of these two precious babies that they will support and help each other through it all, just like JY did comforting SA after the reveal scene in E9.

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Yes, I agree. Although I'm frustrated, I know they'll come out of this a lot stronger both individually and as a couple. I just want them to be happy T^T

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I agree about episode 10. It's the first episode that I haven't been in a hurry to rewatch. I've watched all of the others at least twice. It was just chock full of frustrating scenes and unpleasant side characters. It's made me even more anxious for the resolution (or at least forward motion) that is bound to come next week.

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Yes, I felt the exact same. Thankfully, the preview for next week's episodes gave me some hope that this frustration won't last on forever. While waiting, I'll just have to keep telling myself that for the sake of their happiness and growth, this is all worth it !

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Writer-nim making my emotions go on a roller coaster ride. Happy and on edge with episode 9...Excited with episode 10 apartment scene, then deflated with the second half with JK, HH, MS, the professors, and that piano duo really rendered my heart! Poor SA! I'm keeping my hopes up with the preview of episode 11. This drama is exhausting, really. But I love it!

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We see villains with a capital "V" in kdramas as a matter of course: Joseon noblemen who cavalierly order the death of hundreds, fratricidal chaebol psychos, serial killers, etc. But the truly memorable baddies for me are the ones who don't do anything illegal but are irredeemable in their awfulness. For me, the most hate-able character I have ever seen in a kdrama is the mother played by Gil Hae-Yeon in Something in the Rain but these teachers and tutors in Brahms are coming up fast behind her in this respect.

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Amen to the awfulness of the professors.

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Exhausting really is the right word to describe this watch experience, but in a way that shows how invested I've become in the characters and their lives haha

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HAHAHA "I became one with the icecream, melting away on the floor (〃▽〃)" 나도나도 :)

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Also, here's a random list of all the issues/topics that still have to be dealt with in the next 6 episodes:

1. MS's lost of trust in SA and their friendship
2. Likewise, HH and JY's broken friendship
3. SA's inferiority complex, particularly her low self-esteem and self-confidence in playing the violin, along with where she stands between JY and JK
4. SA's future - whether she'll go to graduate school (just to end up being taken advantage of by Professor Lee) or choose another pathway (Kyunghoo ^^)
5. JY repressing his true feelings accumulated over the many years of playing the piano, especially leading up to the next competition
6. JY and his management in Korea, also linked to what JY does about his career after the competition
7. JK and JY's relationship - JK still choosing to wait for JY, JY's prior feelings towards JK (putting things away in a suitcase still doesn't feel like closure for some reason)
8. JY's issues with money and relationship with parents (curious to know the backstory behind JY's father)
9. What JK and HH individually do about their future careers
10. DY and MS's relationship (not sure if they'll actually do anything about these two, but where they left off was quite toxic)
11. Drama between professors and their chamber orchestras (honestly, I couldn't care less about their foolish rivalry what not for the sake of their reputation)
12. JY and his professor's relationship (was touched on a bit in Ep 10)
13. Simon butting in between JY and SA (preview says it all gosh -___-)
14. Anything related to Hae Na (whenever she appears, she's always adding fuel to the fire ¬_¬)
15. Whether or not friendship trios (SA, MS, DY and JY, JK, HH) actually make up

I probably missed some, but gosh, there's a lot more than I thought...

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With this list, we'll need at least 20 episodes to finish. :))) LOL. I wouldn't mind as long we get to see sweet scenes between JY and SA, with JY speaking English every now and then.

Oh, and more music playing please, with JY's hair bouncing around.

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Would it be so terrible if the show needed to add 4 episodes? There would be no objections from me- in fact I second the motion.

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A few more icecream dates would be nice too~

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What a long list!
I just wish they can overcome them all without time jump huhu...poor JY dan SA. They just want to be happy.

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Your number 4 is the only thing I also dont get from SA . She is a smart girl and definitely understands what is she being used and still go on to do it ! It is obvious that she would not have a career as a musician (that's what everybody's says in the drama :)) so why she keeps pushing instead of working at the other side of music industry !

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In a way I think that it is both admirable and smart that she keeps on trying- because even though you are absolutely right about her lack of future as a performer the experience she gets from this will give her an insight and empathy for the performers that will be very rare- and very valuable in what she will be able to do in the office. It is in her very utter failure lies her future success. The more time that she spends with the performers the better will be her ability to gauge their abilities, strengths, weaknesses and flaws, even graduate school will be valuable to her and even more so because of how her professor plans to "use" her. By the time she is done she will have met a lot of people, assembled an orchestra, made all sorts of plans and events happen. Those are a part of the skills she will build as she becomes what the Italians named an Impresario. She will be at the very heart of the world of music because no opera was ever mounted nor a concert ever performed without an Impresario or the modern offices who fill the functions of one. Who knows? Maybe she will go into business for herself- and someday wake up to discover that she is now rich. To bad the performing thing did not work out- she can cry about it all the way to the bank.

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IMPRESARIO SONG AH. I WEEP, I WEEP.

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I think, she would leave the boundaries of the drama by doing so - Träumerei - dreamery - is one of the main strings. JY said once, that to dream is the biggest talent of all, leading you to the goal. I think, it still isn't clear, if SA hasn't talent, she only had an amateur teacher/friend and an uninteressted professor who can't help her talent been shown, while with JK it seems to be the other way around - his professor made a career, because he luckily recognised and proofed JKs talent. Maybe I'm dreaming myself, but I hope, SA gets the chance to show her talent. (now she's having her own competition with JK, playing the same Franck-piece)...

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Totally agree with you on no.7 - putting things in a suitcase means still lingering on them. Finishing it means putting it in the trash/giving it away. He needs to take that final step - although I'm not sure if he's yet aware of it.

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How you can put your precious memories in a trash can? He should toss away everything what was meaningful for him because he did find a person he is willing to love? The suitcase is like this box of treasure in Amelie from Montmartre - it is a treasure for someone but for other person it's just a trash. Let's let JY have his treasure and do whatever he wants with it.

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*sending list to printer for future reference. :)
*scratching off 8, 9, 13, 14 ("i don't care" haha)
*replacing them with ice cream date 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and 6.0

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Haha I'd love to have more icecream dates!

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These would be aptly called melted ice cream dates now. LOL!

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I wonder if Song-ah really understands what she's doing re: Professor Lee. I.e. does she realise that she's in effect paying for Prof Lee's support, or has she been subtly manipulated into organising the chamber group? Even the kind and understanding Cha Young-in seems to believe that Song-ah knew from the start but did it anyway cos she wanted to join the postgrad programme so much. I don't know, but with all the crappy things Prof Lee is making her do, like informing the members to buy more tickets and pay for their own lunch, I hope Song-ah extricates herself from this mess asap.

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I am pretty sure she knows.

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Ah well, I guess Song-ah needs affirmation so badly that she's trying to ignore her doubts. But really, with her amazing people skills (managing to get Prof Lee to reduce the number of tickets from 5 to 3!) and her business training, not to mention her understanding of music and musicians, she'd probably make a really good manager or administrator in the classical music business.

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I think she suspects, but is afraid to look at the obvious, because if she confronts Prof. Lee she is giving up her dream to study violin. She realized after the master class what real teaching looks like. She recognized Prof. Lee's pettiness at the concert. She knows that Prof. Lee is giving her the dirty work. But she backed down from confronting her for now because her dream is on the line. We know Song-ah is a very honest person, so it's a matter of having to admit the situation to herself, let go of her dream, tell off Prof. Lee, and find a better life at Kyunghoo. Fighting, Song-ah!

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Completely agree!!!

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You're right. But I still have to admit to getting frustrated with her for not extricating herself from the situation straightaway. I think you're absolutely right that she would see that as throwing away her opportunity to continue the violin, so she's hanging in there, but this did get me grimacing at the screen. I hope she doesn't stay in this toxic position for many more episodes!

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I'm with you, she doesn't want to see although she suspects. She believes Prof. Lee can see her hard work and willing to improve, and that's why she is so hurt when she doesn't say anything about her performance and is so happy when she gets a compliment, she believes it's true. It's really hurtful. It will be even worse when she realizes :(

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Even if she knows, she can't really say to the professor anything now because he might not able to graduate.
Didn't she say that she wants to focus on her graduation at some dinner with the foundation people?
She needs to graduate from university first in order to do anything...

I don't know how she can get out of her situation...
Hope the writer has a great way for her to escape from the professor.

By the way, Beak Ji-won who plays the professor, her acting is so on point.
She is such a versatile actress.

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I would hope SA can more actively reach out to good non-local violin teachers through internet; with strong will and passion as SA I believe there will be teacher out there willing to take her under his/her wing.

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I really enjoyed episode 9, and I appreciate the balance between the giddy honeymoon of their newly confirmed relationship and the thoughtful conversations they have. They simply find pleasure in each other's company - no montages of exciting dates and activities, just two people who are content to be together, weather sitting on a wall or in a practice studio.

I feel like episode 10 was a little weaker, if I'm honest. I liked the idea of SA visiting JY's home, stepping more into his world - but I did find the handkerchief thing a bit cliché. I know every drama has, well, drama to keep the story going, but I would sincerely prefer that the drama from here on out is something more relating to their music and dreams then the tried-and-true love triangle stuff - especially considering we've already spent so much time on that (in a more interesting way than usual) up to this point.

I'm personally still holding out for JK getting some positive character development. It's crazy, but I would love to see her finding happiness in teaching, and I'd be so interested in seeing a relationship of sorts develop between her and SA. One of my favorite scenes thus far remains that master class.

As we move into the home stretch soon, I'm still not entirely sure where DYLB is going to take us - and I love that so much. What a wonderful surprise this entire piece has turned out to be thus far!

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I'm also hoping for much more development on the music side of things - not just for Song-ah and Joon-young, but also for the other characters, including the profs and the people at the foundation. I appreciate the main couple's honesty and gentleness, but - ok Brahmsie Beanies, don't kill me - I'm not sure I can take another scene of those two 29-year-olds just standing there and kind of simpering at each other. I want Joon-young to sort things out with Prof Yoo, or at least have a lively debate about what each of them really wants. I want to see Song-ah apply Jung-kyung's masterclass advice to her playing, and make some decisions about her future in music. I want an entire episode about Joon-young, Hyun-ho and Jung-kyung actively struggling to make something of their respective careers.

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Nope, I'm with you on this one. Episode 10 was the first one where I began to get frustrated with the lack of forward movement - in facts hints of backwards movement when Song-ah began to worry about JY and JK. We don't need dithering *now*, people!

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I'm OK with 1 more dithering 'cause 1) we all knew the JY/JK duet was happening and 2) boy, was it a doozy, Franck Sonata in A major. And JK crushed it. It was boss, filthy, and humbling for our poor SA.

But you're right, this should be it. Now let's see some forward-ness in Ep11, e.g., JK being the teach that SA always needed or SA embracing being the next in line at the Foundation.

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I am not a musician but even I can tell the difference on how JK and SA played. Kudos to whoever is coaching the violin playing scenes.

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I can see the issues with Episode 10, but Song Ah's dithering and lack of spine, while frustrating, are entirely consistent with her character and the nature of growth. People don't overcome long-standing issues and personality traits overnight, regardless of new love or a new cheering section or whatever. Instead, we tend to judge new circumstances using our old mindset, which is why Song Ah sees a handkerchief and assumes the worst.

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I think I may have trauma from the handkerchiefs in this show. Next time I see one in my own personal life, I may also assume the worst haha.

Like your defense attorney work, @skelly haha. ;)

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That's fair - old habits and ways of being take time and conscious energy to change. I think what scares me is the specter of noble idiocy descending upon SA, who will decide that it's better for JY if she steps away and leaves him to his world of musical prestige and glitterati, including JK.

I read once that happiness requires courage. I think that is apt in this show. I am crossing all my fingers for them - and not just the OTP.

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Yes, that noble idiocy spectre needs to find another KDrama RIGHT NOW...

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haha the dreaded "noble idiocy spectre." the one that haunts us due to past kdrama trauma, like mother in the cursed castle of IOTNBO.

i'm confident it won't happen here. all it takes is one eye bang look between OTP and we get smiles, giggles, mad dimples and jungkyung who? and some ice cream.

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The 9th episode was fun to watch, the 10th was heavier but inevitable.

For the love triangle, both have burst. I think it's interesting how Song-A and JY are in the same situation. Both kept their feeling to themselves to protect their friendship but it didn't work.

Song-A is so happy to make music, she doesn't see what is happening around her with her teacher, the orchestra, etc. I really want her to open her eyes that she won't suffer too much in the future.

Park Sung-Jae wants so much to gain money by using JY, it's really frustrting to see him talking to everybody without asking JY before... I need someone to smash his head for me!

Everybody is using our cute heroes for their own interests...

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Park Eun Bin made me super curious about the scenes what weren't broadcasted. It looks like there were a lot of deleted scenes that can show better characters's emotions.

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i blacked out during the BTS you shared ......... *slowly gathering myself to finish it ..... blacked out again. thanks :)

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The part where Kim Min Jae said: "do you hear my heart beating?"
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I knew that Song-ah and Joon-young will be happily ever after during the final episode. I really wanted to end and ruin Song-ah's friendship with Jung-kyung and Min-sung so that she will be stay away from both of them and I hope Jung-kyung and Min-sung will be kick out of the classical music university if both will threaten Song-ah and Joon-young's romances again. If my prediction will be correct, then in my opinion, Song-ah and Joon-young will be now a classical music lovers and I think they both the winners.

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I finally watched episode 10 with the tough schedule I had and my birthday and I’m just... how to put this... I’m conflicted.

Obviously our couple are going to have some stormy nights and rough couple of days but I’m confident that they’re gonna work through them together just like how a piano and violin work together. Although there are swoony moments between them and I just want to swoon along and only scream for my baby (Kim Min Jae, duh) I want to be an adult and talk about the rest of the cast.

I haven’t told how wonderful everyone in the cast is. The fact that we hate them means that they’re really really good actors. Especially Hyeon Ho and Jung Kyung. I haven’t seen Park Ji Hyun in any other drama before and now I’m interested in seeing more from her. And Kim Seung Chul has always impressed me with his acting, granted I’ve only seen him in Prison Playbook. If you haven’t seen it, watch it. One of the best dramas ever in my honest opinion. And I’ve loved Kim Seung Chul ever since. He’s one of my favorite actors. And the fact that I absolutely hate Hyeon Ho means how well he has embraced his character and made everyone hate him for being so selfish and shallow.

Well to be honest I can’t call anyone shallow cuz their drama with our OTP is bigger than the Atlantic Ocean. To be honest if you take each character and think in their shoes, you would act like them too. For instance just imagine you’ve been dating this wonderful girl and had an amazing friendship with this silent guy. And then one day your girlfriend announces that she wants to break up with you because she loves your silent friend instead. What would you think? If it was me I would want to kill myself (if I loved her more than myself). It depends on a person’s personality. And even if that adds more drama to the drama (pfft) I think the reason DYLB is so popular even if it’s seemingly slow is how realistic the characters are to someone. You can basically look at someone and go “hey, that’s me!”.

Even if you take Jung Kyung: you’re dating this guy and yet something about his best friend (and yours, if I’m not mistaken) makes you happy. You just want to be with him instead. And yet that means you have to break up with your current boyfriend even if he has given you so much love. It’s hard to break up with him, because you’ve dated him for so long and breaking up with him means that he won’t be there for you any more. But you get butterflies seeing your other best friend. And you just want to see what would happen if you date him. And so you break up with your boyfriend (which is heartbreaking and you give yourself some time to cry for the sacrifice you made) and then when you look for your other best friend you see that he’s dating some newbie violinist who’s prettier than you (HEH! THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR MAKING SONG AH FEEL BAD, JUNG KYUNG) and you’re in for a shock. You don’t want to let go of him because you broke up with your ex to make space for this guy. And...

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.... And he’s happily dating someone else. You just want the world to end and then you decide to go to Japan and kill yourse— I MEAN. 
 
You get what I mean. Sometimes these characters are so relatable that you want to kill them but when you think like them in their shoes you just realize how they actually feel.
 
Thats what DYLB does to me. It’s been a while since I’ve seen a drama where every character is not just a character created for insane drama but are real people instead. Not characters but real people with real feelings and real jealousy and real love.

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You are absolutely right.. I guess this is why this drama has so much followers.. because they are relatable and their actions and reactions are so normal.

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Unfamiliar Family was really strong in that way. It set my bar higher for what I'd be willing to watch afterward.

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Park Ji Hyun is great in Rookie Historian, if you get a chance to watch that. She plays one of those subtle 'more-than-meets-the-eye' characters and does it really well throughout the arc of the show.

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Thank you, NOW I know where I'd seen her before! She was fabulous in Rookie Historian, and I can see some parallels between her character there and Jung Kyung; high-minded chaebols with depth and interest...I hope Jung Kyung as a character is also capable of self-reflection and growth.

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Me, too! I enjoyed Rookie Historian, but one of the things I wished we would have seen more of was her character and the Crown Prince - not necessarily for the romance, but they were clearly kindred spirits in other ways, and I really liked their conversations and interactions

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It’s so refreshing to have a couple that actually talks to each other. They kiss and then they talk about how they feel and what upsets them, even if they are so introverted and have been through crushes they kept in secret, so they are used not to talk about their romantic feelings.

I was really disappointed by HH and MS. They both claimed their friends were bad friends because they hid their feelings from them. And that altitude only shows that if both JY and SA has told them about their feelings they would have stopped their friendship with them, that’s how selfish they are. And for both JY and AS their friendship with HH and MS was more important that their crush. The fact that two long time friends can’t see that and can only see their “betrayal” was really infuriating. I don’t want them to “solve” their differences, JY and SA deserve better people in their lives.

Honestly, our leads are surrounded by not so kind people. Their teacher are really mean. Prof. Yoo is obviously jealous of JY talent. Prof. Lee is selfish and doesn’t care for SA at all and only needs a secretary, which is overwhelming. As hard as it was I liked that HaeNa told SA that prof. was using her.

Also, I know Mr. Park feels like he’s only doing things for his benefit, but I really think he is doing the best for JY career, although his methods are not the best. I’m curious about his visit to JY motherS I have the feeling he’s asked her not to contact JY anymore, and as much as I dislike him, that’s something that needed to be done.

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Or, following up on his interest in getting sympathy for JY based on his family, he's pressuring Mom to be interviewed about the seamier side of JY's story. Just ugh!!!

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It could be that too, you are right. So sad if he goes that path...

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I understand HH more than MS. MS had only dated DY very briefly; she has no right to stop others from falling for DY....

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I like how JY played the piano key to shush JK up nearing the end of ep 10. His expression just screamed "could you just stfu and start to rehearse" lol. I have a couple of ques to ask though.

1)I've noticed that JY tend to let out a sigh (?) after he's done with his piano piece. Is this a normal occurrence or is it due to him portraying exasperation for JY's character?

2)Why is it that JY doesn't want people to know that he's participating in Tchaikovsky Competition? Not sure if I have missed out the reason on the previous eps.

Thanks in advance!

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I think he doesn't want anyone to be fixing on this and especially the media - if he will loose they would ditch him deep in the ground.

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Ah i see, that makes sense. Thanks!!

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You're welcome.

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🤣I also love that stfu note. The fact he played the tuning note for JK makes it both less aggressive (consistent to his gentle manner since the note has a purpose) and hilariously passive aggressive!

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I love passive agressive JY, first with the "endure it" comment and now with the stfu note. The look on JK face was priceless. He needs to do that more often ;)

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I laughed so hard when he played that A - that was such a 'stfu and play moment'!
As for the sigh every time he is done, I interpret that as a sigh of dissatisfaction with the way he has just played. It makes sense for a great artist to play something and always find at least one thing, if not many, that could have been done better; one of the reasons he is where he is.

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ahh thanks for the explanation! :)

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This week was another roller coaster ride, after episode 9 full of fluff, I expected an angsty episode 10, and that was exactly what we got.

In the producer's interviews I read recently, they said that their intentions for the second half was to portray JY and SA's growing pains. So it made sense that the drama went all out on the angsts and conflicts. Understanding didn't make the experience easier to swallow though, episode 10 was tough. I really hope the drama can take the mature route and let the leads grow and fight obstacles together.

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- Love that JY took charge and asked SA for her handkerchief. He didn't need to address the issue with JK's handkerchief, just that one gesture was enough to assure SA. And he got the opportunity to offered it to her right after, this time she accepted it. Regarding the black handkerchief, though I would prefer JY to just burn it, I understand why he couldn't. JK for better or for worse, still one of his oldest friends, he couldn't let it go completely that easily, and I think SA needs to accept and make peace with that fact. Accepting it doesn't mean letting it take over. As the last shot of ep 10 (and the brown handkerchief literally standing between JK and JY) has indicated, although there might be long history between JY and JK, SA herself has found her way into his heart and the space for her there has been growing larger by the day. I hope she will realize this soon.

- I think they've been holding off JY hearing SA play on purpose. She seemed to be reluctant to play in front of him, which made sense, given her super low confidence. I do wonder when will we get to see that? When will they play together? May be when SA finally finds the confident to play her heart out? Professor Lee said that the violinist and their accompanist has to be in sync when they play together, having the same heartbeat or something. May be despite the gap in musical talent, our OTP will unexpectedly be in sync when they play together? Is it too much for me to hope for that?

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I was a bit shocked that JY asking SA so directly for her handkerchief which is in reality, her violin wiping cloth! 😆 TBH as a musician my instrument cloth feels so intimate to me since I use it daily and carry it with me for years that it makes my heart raced when I heard JY's request....it is almost scandalizing 🙈🙈🙈

It is quite a romanticized comment about musicians need to have their heart beat together to play well together, but it certainly helps to have the same musical vision. In that sense I expect JY to be a wonderful influence or mentor to SA although a solo pianist doesn't necessarily translate as the best collaborative artists (it is an art of its own!!) But most importantly, when musicians play together communication skill really does matter for a often tricky working relationship. In that I am hopeful that JY and SA honest but gentle communication style will translate when they do collaborate musically!

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I feel your hope, but at the same time, that would just be too unrealistic for me. Even though I'm sure SA would play far more freely with JY, it still wouldn't miraculously make up for the difference in ability and time already dedicated to music. For a drama that has done well grounding itself realistically, I would be throwing things at the screen if it tried to make me believe that his accompaniment suddenly made her a better musician. However, if it simply makes SA play the best that she ever has, and brings her joy, yeeeeeessssssssss, let's have that ending! (It's going to bring JY joy whatever - he's seriously smitten!)

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great points @stberry, and i agree that a key issue is whether SA will play for JY or whether they will play together. i'm so torn on whether i actually want this!! on the one hand, it would be touching, classic kdrama. but on the other hand, it's sorta cheesy af, and doesn't allow for SA to let go of the first version of dream and embrace a new dream. AAAHHH! i'm such a kdrama/classical nerd, that i'm even trying to figure out what piece would SA/JY could even play together. nothing makes sense! (that's why it's probably not happening and instead they're going to karaoke and singing taeyon's "kiss me.")

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I'd love to see/hear them play Schumann's Dream, not necessarily for her exam but just as a symbol of him getting over playing it for JK and instead playing it for SA as her fav piece

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Actually regarding would SA and JY be playing together and whether they have the chemistry together. I think in episode 2 when SA was JY's page turner, she already able to feel JY's so called "breathe" when both of them practically wanted to turn the page tgt at one of the scene.
So I guess they should be able to play together well.

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It's been two days, I can't believe I'm still fuming mad over the so-called "friends" of JY and SA. Seriously, the hoes before bros energy is giving me migraines. And to think the leads spend a good chunk of their lives in misery in considerations for these assholes, only to have this kind of treatment thrown back at them.

1. If they have the audacity to chide the leads for not able to "stop" their feelings, then they should look back at themselves first to see how's that has been working out for them. What a bunch of hypocrytes.

2. Also, if you two have such high standard for your friends, please again look back at yourselves to see how good of a friend you two have been. I mean, for a decade long friendship, you would think these two would have 1) Known that SA and JY do not have one selfish bone in their body to ever hurt them on purpose or betray them behind their back; 2) Noticed on some level how miserable their friends have been; and 3) Stopped thinking about themselves for one second and thought about how painful it must have been for SA and JY. Failing on all of these points just proves how self-centered and entitled these two are.

3. I'm not trying to pin this on SA and JY, but they need to be selfish and put themselves first sometimes. Them being selfless like this only encourage the obnoxious entitlement.

4. When they were hanging their heads and apologized to these assholes, I wanted nothing more than jumping in there and tell them that it's not their fault, cause it seemed like they genuinely believe that it was their faults!? Is it what people called gas lighting?

5. I cannot believe JY let HH did this to him twice in the span of 2 episodes, not to mentioned the other times like in the classroom or when HH told JY to leave the country. I hate, hate, hate HH's attitude whenever he talked to JY. How could he cry and plead and beg JK so pathetically and then turn around and sneer and berate JY with that angry smirk on his face, acting like JY is the one had it out for him when in fact it was JK who ruined everything?? What the hell? Thank god SA had JY telling her to stop chasing MS for the time being to avoid this kind of conversation. It's really not worth it.

6. On the topic of friends, JK's shocked pikachu face when grandma told her she should have paid JY for being her accompanist was so funny. You would think out of everyone in his life, SHE would have been the first to realized how massive of a favor it was for JY to play for her for free. But she obviously didn't, until grandma reminded her, which really drives home my point about the obnoxious entitlement.

7. In conclusion, kids, you need new friends. If these people want to stay mad forever then let them, who cares? You have apologized more than enough, just drop them and go shop for better, healthier friends.

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Completely agree! If MS has no control over DY's feelings and won't "blame" him for liking SA, shouldn't she extend the same courtesy to SA as well? Both are her friends for the same period of time. Why the partiality?
And gosh I'm so pissed off with HH! The girl broke his heart and yet he's trying to protect her! Why did you tell JK that you're dating someone else?WTH? Of course he should, so that she backs off!! And why didn't you tell me that you liked her? Then I wouldn't have let her drift away. Dude! She told you that herself, that she was having second thoughts and yet you did nothing!! So why blame JY? Especially when he was the one who accompanied him when he tried to speak with her all those years ago in school?? I understand that maybe all this is required for plot development, but I'm better off if they take up less screen time.

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i agree with you, i made a paragraphs on twitter about how toxic Hyunho and Minseong was. they are a bunch of cowards, they didnt have the guts to blame on the person they like so they blamed on the weaker side: Joonyoung and Songah. i tried so hard to understand both of them. i can understand they are upset at some point but blaming everything on JY and SA because they fell in love? yikes.
i really wish JY and SA snapped and tell them how had been hard for both of them too. and i wish they stopped being friends. there wont be a answer to their relationship right now.

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Gosh. What you wrote are exactly why I was frustrated at Episode 10. I was hopeful to see some developments in JK and HH's characters that they are starting to move on and focus on their careers but nope. They are back to their selfish and miserable selves.
Nonetheless, you had me LOL at your "JK's shocked pikachu face" comment. I like how grandma slapped her with the comment about JK didn't think about that when she asked YJ to play for her.

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I also think MS is just a selfish person, most of her interactions/conversations with SA invariably leads back to her eg she congratulates SA for dating JY but then backhandedly says, but what about me then? What am I gonna do whilst you're off on your dates? All previous interactions have always been about her and DY as well. Irrelevantly though, I think this actress is beautiful, noticed her first on My ID is Gangnum Beauty... as for HH, he's totally smitten and in love with JK and no one can blame him for that but he should have a really long hard look at himself, his willingness to lose JY to keep JK at whatever cost, nobody needs a friend like that.

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For some reason, I can empathise with all the "bad" guys in this show. It think that's the magic of this show. Nothing is black and white.

Min Seong and Hyun Ho have every right to be angry at Joon Young and Song Ah. JY and SA kept their feelings secret in an attempt to shield MS and HH from heartache, but ended up making MS and HH fools. The situation parallels how JY tried to keep the secret of MS and DY from SA in the earlier episode.

I appreciated Haena for being straight with SA. SA is doing everything she can in order to be in her professor's favour. The comment definitely came from a wrong place, but someone needed to open SA's eyes sooner than later.

Even with Simon, from an artist perspective, he's "evil." But as an agent who wants his artist to become successful, he is doing what he considered is best for the situation. Can an artist/musician only focus on their craft? In a sense, SY and JY are so naive to think that they can do with just music... IRL, you definitely got to do what you do not like in order to do what you like.

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Same. HN was just being the blunt and honest one to say it out loud in front of her face. I am 100% sure that’s what the gossip behind SA’s back but no one says it loud and clear to SA like HN does.

Simon as well. From a biz standpoint he ain’t wrong. Of coz he can be more humane but in this world? What he said, “you still gotta make money no?” The real world is cruel and people move onto the next thing in a blink second. You kinda have to remain relevant if this is your career.

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I completely agree. IRL, this happens too. Many, many years ago, I was Min Seong.. and while I knew it was "irrational", but I did feel like a fool too. My friendship with my BFF had not been the same, at least for while. We eventually made up but after the initial discussion, it was a taboo topic and we learned a lot about not keeping secrets anymore..

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Hae-na hit hard, but she's not wrong. And SA knows it, too. Since this show is fairly intentional in terms of what it shows up, I'm hoping that planted a seed of impetus in our heroine.

I think MS and HH have every right to feel all their feelings, including anger, but I disagree that they have a right to be angry AT JY or SA. They didn't actually do anything wrong - they just had feelings. MS and HH may feel foolish - and I understand why - but neither JY nor SA did that TO them. I'm not sure a situation like this is winnable for anyone, frankly. I actually thought it was really unfair of MS to tell SA, "If I had been you, I wouldn't have been able to like DY." Sister, if we were able to control our feelings like that, I personally would have experienced considerably less heartbreak in my life, trust me.

Honest question to everyone out there: do you think it would have been the better route for SA to tell MS when she developed her feelings for DY? (I'm really asking the question! No snark, I am genuinely curious!)

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Good Q. I think I would say depends on timing. I'm not sure what state MS and DY's relationship was in when SA became aware of what she felt. If their relationship was still figuring-out-if-I-like-you, yes, she could have said. However, if MS and DY had already embarked on something, time to hold your peace. You weren't there first and you need to respect that. Hahahahahah - so easy to say...

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It's true - it feels like one of those things that has so many variables, so hard to calibrate how you do the right thing....

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Totally agree! Not only is timing a variable, but level of feeling; sometimes it is really hard to realize when feelings have gone from friendship to love. I know it is a kdrama trope but it happens in real life, too, when you suddenly realize that your pal is someone you'd really, really like to date. Then, other times, love smacks you over the head and there are no doubts whatsoever.

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I think SA developed feelings while DY and MS were still dating (not that I'm totally sure, though), so it's normal she never shared. If it was after they split... well, considering how possessive and obsessed MS is about DY, I don't think SA should have told her. I believe she expected the reaction MS had, she knows her friend well enough to know that. And because she loves her friend so much and wants to have her by her side is the reason, IMO, she never told her about her crush.

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Thank you for the recap! I have already posted everything I can say on my wall lol But I still want to comment on how much I enjoyed this week’s journey.

Another beautiful week we have had. It may be tough to watch, the obstacles are necessary for all of our characters to grow and learn.

I don’t need to watch a drama where there’s only fluffiness and swoons. I want to see the pain, the mistakes, the sour, the ugly, the regrets, the weight in life, because I want to see these relatable characters living lives like we would. And how they become better with each other’s company. It gives the swoons so much more meaning.

This is a drama that touches my soul, and I am delightfully waiting for the light at the end of the tunnel.

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I think what makes this journey so delightful is that this tunnel is has beautifully timed gaps to let sunshine and fresh air in so us travelers don't feel neither suffocated nor claustrophobic! It also helps that we are listening to beautiful music (more please!) and get delicious snacks along the way.😆

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haha! totally!! I normally get annoyed easily but this drama, while they made mistakes, but I never felt like they aren't moving forward? That's why I am not suffocated watching it at all lol They are all improving and learning and growing, not repeating the same mistakes again and again and again lol (Side eye RoY....) lol

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A talent in the right hands can turn into something amazing and continue growing when the person possessing it stays humble and hardworking. A talent which cross it's growing path with jealousy and constant criticism which feed on insecurities can switch off the power, turn off the fire which is still there but it needs lots of effort and some good dry logs to keep burning and make it big again.

You know a situation when you are walking on the street and there is a bunch of begging kids or homeless person asking for money and you can or can't resist to give them something. I think JY an SA are people who will be affected and whenever they'll go someone will sense their "week heart" and will profit from it. People like those professors and JK will go down the street and nobody will bother to ask them for anything, although I believe that JK will secretly drop some money "by accident".

I understand MS's reaction and why SA didn't tell her about her feelings, I've been there so many times in the past. I was glad that she decided to tell DY about it, just it wasn't the best moment for MS to learn the restraint feelings of her best friend. She feels betrayed and she will realize with time why SA didn't tell her about it. It will hurt but it must be herself to find SA and talk about it.

I love the suitcase - it became a box of memories, of the past, he doesn't need to throw it away. Why to throw the part of yourself so precious to you?! In the moment he put the black handkerchief in this suitcase of oblivion he got his feelings right and he let completely go his past. I would hope for him to do it with Rachmaninoff as well. All the time when depressed he challenges himself to those pieces of doom of desires. It's wonderful metaphor - Rachmaninoff music needs very skillful player to play his work but without feelings it doesn't sound right - it's like a russian soul which can't be dictated the order to keep itself sane and keep growing and flying but it needs a guide to not get overboard.

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This couple is charming because it is such a old fashion courtship ( dating is too modern term for this ). From handkerchief to ice cream dates, I can't imagine even introverts do this now.

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Old fashion courtship indeed! Serenading through piano unexpectedly on her birthday, evening strolling next to the palace wall, heart-to-heart conversations by the creek....but we did get some modern moves this week, by our heroine no less!! She ventured into his private residence....but of course to do some old fashion tea sipping 😆

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@kimbapnoona HAHAHA perfect words for the perfect old timey, jane austen (but korean) couple. i'm even inspired to watch me some "sense and sensibility" and/or "emma" soon to draw some insane, nerdy parallels.

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🤣🤣🤣 I couldn't help myself already and did so following @skelly's excellent analogy of Jane and Bingley!!

Join me in the Austen nerdfest below in comment #28!!

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First love how happy they are together. Like vitamin for a tired soul getting a happy pill. <3
I feel for SA getting food for her insecurity the whole day. It clearly eating her up on the inside... Everyone that have been there knows that feeling how not being good enough for yourself. Just as much she loves playing violin. That feeling of not getting that desired level beside everyone says she is not a capable player. Have been there myself when people says you do not fit to do this... It do take a toll on self esteem. But I hope to see her finding a place where she do something that give her confidence and make her happy. Well we knows she have a supporter in JY that gonna cheer her on in whatever she want to do.
I also hope JY find his passion and becomes happy again with his piano.
All this obstacles can not mean other that it is gonna make them stronger as a couple and individually. :)

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Can anyone help please on the background music being played during the first few minutes of Ep 9? , and also played again during the ice cream scene 2?

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K.Will - Beautiful (OST 9)

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Thanks!

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ice cream 2.0 song is "jo yuri - my love," which is on repeat today along with "taeyon - kiss me." :)

love jo yuri's voice even though it appears she's like a 15 year-old girl group singer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDMdSPOve1I

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just realized as i was listening to brahms ost, are you asking about the frenchy, piano background music?? i'm eagerly awaiting for that on the full OST. :) reminds me of the epic music from the movie "amelie"

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Actually, yes.. sounded like a playful piano music.

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yesyesyes, with a dash of spanish guitar and accordian ..... *melting. it's played while SA smiles, waves and takes the steps up to see JY in front of namsan tower ........ wow, just typing that scene makes my heart swell. i actually prefer this shot more than the ice cream kiss!

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Oh My Gosh.. it's THEM who are dating, but I found myself blushing the whole two episodes.. :P

PS: I just hate Simon here... I hope Joon-young's talk with Christ goes well so this prick WON'T be JY's manager... I just dislike him going around to tell people that he's JY's manager even when the decision has not been made. Even more, I hate him controlling JY like he's a total jerk... every time Simon appears on my screen, I just want to slap him... grrrrrr...

PSS: I'm just wandering when they're going to drop to banmal.. I can't wait... :D

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The only time I'll ever forgive precious ice cream being wasted 😘😘

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Has anyone yet done an experiment of the melting rate of ice cream on cement in average temperature of an October evening in Seoul to gauge the number of minutes passed........(no, I have not been thinking about their kiss at all, nope.)

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My favorite line this week was "Give it to me, I'll eat it." And "Don't force yourself to eat it if you don't want to."

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Simon's problem isn't his ambition, but the way he goes about it. If you are a manager you need to both take care of your artist and push them. He hasn't figured out how to take care of his artist. He doesn't pretend to get to know JY, he just speaks "at" him instead of "to" him. A miserable pianist will not help you sir.

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He doesn't care about JY, he just want to use him to make money...

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He knows the theory of what must be done. I don't think his advices haven't been bad advices just from a "business perspective", he knows what he's doing. But that's theory.
Life is about people. He was to win JY respect and affection. He's not his boss, in fact it's the other way round: id JY doesn't want to play for him, he's in trouble.
You are so right about "At" and not "To".
A lesson must be learned.

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Idle thought -- @missvictrix's comment about getting married made me think about meeting the parents. I wonder if meeting JY will raise SA's status in the eyes of her career-focused mother and sister. I wonder if meeting SA will help Mom stop asking JY for money, since he'll have a family of his own.

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Time to get married!

Proposed wedding present from Brahmsies: an upright freezer so our ice cream couple can do whatever they would like with their ample supply -eating, feeding, milkshaking, make-it-into-caking, tossing, smearing, licking, wiping with handkerchiefs or wetnaps.

Wouldn't they make a lovely married couple? Despite some of their personal struggles, I could see so much good coming from their union. JY will be able to have a partner he will fully trust to share his burden, SA will also gain confidence with the support of a partner who respects her. I am hoping all of these will be realized for us the viewers to bare witness to their beautiful relationship.

It is rather funny though that Dramaland has held us hostage for years administering miscommunication abuse and now we have a couple who talk to each other and are open about their feelings in their social circle, what else can we do but swoon?

Communication is too sexy for the average Dramaverse!

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*bear witness

That's not a slip, not at all!! 😅🤣🤣

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I can't..lol almost choked on my lunch.

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"handkerchiefs or wetnaps" U SLAYED ME. HAHAHA

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Thinking about them getting married reminded me of what Mr. Bennett said in Pride and Prejudice when he learned that Jane and Mr. Bingley were getting married and he said they were so sweet and good-natured that every servant would cheat them, lol

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This is so cute and true!

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🤣🤣🤣 love love the Austen analogy, @skelly!! Joon-young Bingley is already being cheated out of his money, not by servants but his parents, and Song-ah Bennet being coaxed into free labor by her teacher.

If I can think all the Austen characters, Song-ah reminds me most of Anne Elliot who feels keenly aware of her older age and all her goodness is being unnoticed by most except for a few like Capt. Wentworth.

I see qualities of Joon-young which also exist in Edmumd Betram -kind, principled, compassionate of those less fortunate (or blessed with talent in this drama), but also deeply human. Wait, does that make JK the Maria Crawford in DYLB? 😆

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O. M. G. YOU ALREADY THOUGHT OF INSANE AUSTEN PARALLELS.

*In Joon Young voice, 좋아해. 좋아해. 좋아해kimbap noona-ssi.

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Ooooh, great call on the Anne Elliot- SA! So right...

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yea ..... anne elliot = SA, good one! yea ....... (*looks up anne elliot on wiki and finds out she's in "persuasion," which i have not yet read or watched, is my austen achilles heel haha. to do: binge some austen so i can hang with the smarter @kimbapnoona haha).

what's funny is that i've been trying to convince my friend that dylb pays homage to austen for 2 weeks, and she mocked me, and i lamented, "if only someone understood ....." but when the moment of truth finally came to throw down on some dope austen analogies, i ... i ... have nothing. i'm all talk. 🤭 i'm like a university music prof, all BS. #exposed

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@kimbapnoona THIS PERSUASION ANALOGY!! *weeps*

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I feel there will be a big time lapse at the last episode :) I hope it will not be 3 years like many other dramas :)) I am sure SH will have a new hair cut after that :)) May be marriage can be on the tabel then :)

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If there is a time skip, let there not be a separation! I much rather that our OTP possibly leaving Korea together
-JY keep concertizing and sharing music in the world stage, and SA continuing her studies in graduate school or working for the oversea branch of the Foundation or possibly even Chris' agency, whatever makes her happy!

After the time skip, we will get to see our couple returning to Korea with a new renewed sense of confidence and profound sense of happiness built on trust and mutual respect in their relationship (or marriage as @missvictrix suggests 😍)

Yes, I want to the biggest happiest ending for our ice cream couple. I want to share in their happiness. These two precious babies deserve everything in the world for being the kind, warm, incredible human beings they are.

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