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Do You Like Brahms: Episodes 11-12 Open Thread

It’s one step forward and two steps back for our couple this week, as our heroine struggles with all the gossip and mean-spirited remarks that shake her gentle soul. Even though our hero provides some of the best support possible, she is going to have to be honest with him about her insecurities if they want their precious relationship to last.

 
EPISODES 11-12 WEECAP

Poor Song-ah really had a rough go this week — and so did we. Indeed, much of Episode 11 consists of Song-ah’s brightness getting tarnished by the rude and/or cold-hearted people around her. Professor Lee, who has yet to offer anything constructive or affirming to Song-ah, really outdoes herself this week. The nonsense with her chamber orchestra continues, with Song-ah doing all the gopher work, and taking all the hits.

Similarly, Simon-on-the-loose is not one to think of other people’s feelings, and while he tries to recruit Song-ah after graduation, he also makes it clear she has no talent as a violinist, started playing too late, and should basically give up once she earns her diploma.

Finally, the third thing (or person) that’s causing Song-ah so much emotional grief is Jung-kyung. No matter how clear Joon-young makes it that he’s playing with Jung-kyung as a friendly favor, Song-ah gets torn up whenever her name is mentioned, whenever they are practicing together, or even mention they are practicing together.

All of these things adding up, little Song-ah seems about to break when she’s sent on Professor Lee’s ridiculous brooch-buying mission. Good thing her boyfriend is heaven-sent. Joon-young, wonderful soul that he is, can pick up on when Song-ah is upset, even when she won’t give words to it. He effectively ditches practice with Jung-kyung (ugh, I can’t believe she was primping for him!) to join Song-ah on her trip to Daejeon.

Daejeon is actually Joon-young’s hometown, and between all the memories that are there for him, and the pair running into his mother and eating in her restaurant (the sweetness!), Joon-young is soon confessing that not only is it his first time bringing someone home, but his first time feeling this way. Swoon!

And so, a noxious errand actually turns out to be a dreamy all-day date with Joon-young, and it’s as swoony as it is the exact bonding experience they both needed. There is such an abundance of meaningful gazes, hand holding, tea drinking, and slow walks together that I thought my heart might not be able to take it. Joon-young is so genuinely, obviously, shamelessly taken with her — whenever he sees her, the smile on his face lights up the room. His umbrella gift, and all the meaning behind it, makes him so, so happy.

Sadly, this is where we get to the “one step forward and two steps back” portion of our story. It’s clear as day that Joon-young has lost his heart to Song-ah, but she’s still getting hit from all sides. Our outside aggressors attack her when her footing is already shaky, and by the end of Episode 12, Song-ah is not in a good place.

Professor Lee chucks Song-ah a compliment to get what she wants, but flatly tells her that the chamber orchestra is for “people with talent” and Song-ah is merely helping on the admin side (what a hellish misunderstanding that was!). Then Simon-on-the-loose circles back to Song-ah and tells her that her relationship with Joon-young is damaging his career. Finally, the Music Department’s group chat is basically full of students poking fun at Joon-young and Song-ah dating, focusing only on how their talent level doesn’t “balance.” What all these fools are neglecting to notice is that Joon-young and Song-ah are magic together. Levels don’t matter.

That might be the lesson that Song-ah has to learn, but for now, it’s haunting her like the cruelest of ghosts. And even though Joon-young is excited to be her accompanist for her grad school admissions performance, Song-ah can’t see past what everyone else is focusing on: she doesn’t deserve him.

When our episodes this week come to a close, Song-ah (on the verge of tears all day) spots Joon-young and Jung-kyung in the back of a taxi together. While I’m sure there is more than a reasonable explanation for this, it’s the final straw in Song-ah’s back-breaking personal struggle of not feeling like she’s good enough.

I’m sad. There is so much life and loveliness between our couple that it’s impossible not to see that they’re made for each other. That being said, I’m glad our story is going exactly where it needs to (even though I hate it), and showing us Song-ah at possibly her lowest point yet. She needs to face her insecurities and build herself back up again. With Joon-young (and all of us) supporting her, I’m sure she’ll make it, and I’ll be damned if I don’t get my swoony, smiley couple back.

Some final words on Jung-kyung before we close. Though we mostly saw her throughout the drama as this antagonist that wouldn’t let go of Joon-young, and cruelly tortured the people around her, I like the other layer we are starting to see. Much like at the master class, Jung-kyung shines this week when she’s teaching other students, and it’s as much a gift of hers as it is personal catharsis. If she gets the professorship, I fully look forward to her stepping all over Professor Lee. Please, have at it.
 
PS: Is it just me or does Kim Min-jae look genuinely smitten with Park Eun-bin/Song-ah? Ships, a-sail!

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I love your recaps @missvictrix - thank you so much!

Episode 11 first - so much to love!

I liked their conversation in the coffee shop at the beginning, where they discussed SA changing from playing Franck’s sonata. JY was giving his opinion on difficult pieces of music, but SA was hearing it as a reflection on his relationships. Do you think she more heard it as a) his commitment to keep hanging on to a possible relationship with JK, or b) JK’s commitment to keep fighting until she won JY back? I just really (x100) wish she could have heard it as a message for herself – he’ll keep pursuing you until you finally realise how much you mean to him.

I loved the way he didn’t disagree with her about the lack of hours playing the violin seriously hampering her chances. So many people would have rushed in to comfort by saying it wasn’t true. He dignified her by simply listening, and then taking her hand: I hear you, I care about you and I will walk with you in this. But I will not diminish you by pretending that’s not the truth.

I adored the way JY dropped so many hints to SA in this episode that he’s fully sold on her. The way he beamed at her on the bus when he had caught up! The way he admitted it was the first time he’d brought a friend home! The way he admitted it was his first time feeling so smitten in the restaurant! The way he opened up to her about his dad’s financial problems and the burden piano-playing has become! The way he couldn’t stop himself smiling with delight at her falling asleep on her shoulder and grabbing her hand so tightly! Yes, SA, that’s how much you mean to him – please wake up and smell the coffee soon! And, seriously, that smile could light up not just a room but a city…

Episode 12 - totally agree that it needs to happen although it was not fun to watch. But I like the way the writer handled it by giving us a heads up in the title (back to the beginning) to make the point that things *haven't* been closed properly and although there's been a lot of surface change in our character's lives, there's not been any real deep change. Facing their original issues head on needs to happen!

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KMJ smile is a national treasure! 😍 the way he could be all serious but suddenly flash that sweet, gorgeous smile! It's blinding! 🤩😂

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We’re all smitten with his smile. Even the coldest of hearts. I have already made a list of the amazing things Kim Min Jae is and I’m totally backing that’s up even still.

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Yeah, my new motto is basically, "Find someone who grins at you like KMJ." :-)

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(I did! I did!)
30th anniversary on November 4
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Wow. Happy Anniversary!

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Awww, congratulations!! You inspire me. :-) <3

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I agree completely about there being some surface change but not any real deep change. Their relationship needs to be built upon a strong foundation of mutual understanding - both about what they mean to each other (A LOT, so pls Song Ah, trust Joon Young's heart for you!!), and the value they have as individual people.

Song Ah is experiencing some growing pains, and I hope she learns that she is more than her violin and who she is to Joon Young. Of course, both of these things are precious and important, but she has to realise just how much value she has as just a person, first and foremost, even without the violin or the love of her life. It is only then that no matter how people may view her (as a lackey, an inconvenience, an underperformer), she will be able to stand tall and proclaim her value. Only when she gets that right, will she and Joon Young be able to stand firm amidst the storm as a team.

Similarly, Joon Young has to learn that running away from his family because of the burdens they have given him will not work. It's just not a lasting solution. He exhibits the same escapism in other areas of his life as well by suppressing his emotions and suffering alone. I wish he would sit down with his parents and tell them how tortured he's been, and say he's had enough. We see a snippet of that in the preview for episode 13 so I hope that will be a good release for him. Like Song Ah, he has to first see himself as someone who means more than just a mere money-making vehicle, in order to be free from all the trauma and forge ahead with Song Ah to meet whatever life brings him next.

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I love how Joon-young and Song-ah have this unspoken understanding with each other when they have their conversations, like you pointed out, JY didn’t try to give her empty words of comfort which frankly would not have been true because it is true, SA has started too late and it will be hard to catch up. So the fact that he listened, didn’t interrupt, and held her hand as a sign of comfort speaks volumes of their relationship. I feel for SA, it’s hard not to feel insecure when almost everyone around her makes her feel small (ugh I just want to smack JY’s manager) but I’m hoping they can overcome this

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"He dignified her by simply listening, and then taking her hand: I hear you, I care about you and I will walk with you in this. But I will not diminish you by pretending that’s not the truth."

And the look of gratitude on her face when he takes her hand, was a lovely touch. That was what she needed, not some platitudes, and his being genuine was real comfort for her. The really did that bit spot on IMO.

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Your PS. It's not just you @missvictrix! I thought the same, too! Noona, saranghe it is! LOL.

Again, my emotions took a beating this week with all of these highs and lows, and this is not even a makjang drama! Again, Song Ah-ssi needs to use her words, making JY understand why she's hesitant letting him play for her, how she feels about Jung Kyung (and what she said in the car!), and what she's going through music-wise. JY, poor boy has his own struggles too, needs her support and care now more than ever and this is not the time to distance herself from him.

I hope they sort this out. Writer-nim! Only 4 episodes left. Please don't disappoint us! 🥺

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I mean, who isn't in love with Park Eun Bin :)

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Yea, you're right, SA needs to user her words ... like she did in AoY2 hehe. It's almost startling how PEB says as many words in 1 episode of DYLB as she said in 1 minute in AoY2 it feels like haha.

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Both KMJ and PEB are such a delight to watch, besides their amazing chemistry, they’ve really got their characters down

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Did last week just repeat itself?

I was feeling overwhelming joyful on Monday and then my heart sort of shattered watching the following episode :'( In fact, I haven't actually watched the subbed episodes yet because I can't get myself to ;-; (I normally livestream first and rewatch with subs the next day) Honestly speaking, I don't know if I can watch much longer seeing SA and JY suffer in so much pain in their overly toxic surroundings.

In the last 4 episodes, all I want is progress. That's what everyone wants. We keep being pushed and pulled, taking one step forward then way too many steps back. It's really exhausting and frustrating, even as viewers :( I still have hope in DYLB because I have so much love for SA and JY, but if next week is just another repeat of all this with nothing more solved, I don't think I can keep on watching sadly.

Sorry for this rant :/

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I can relate! I've thrown things after ep 12, too!.😆 I mean, the issue about their levels were articulated even before they became a couple, so what JY said before stays, right? He doesn't care about that and SA should learn to think that way too, otherwise they can't be together. He has been reassuring all the way too, about his only playing for JK as a friend. SA needs to trust him, too.

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Exactly. It's just unfortunate that they're both in an environment where the level talk is all that surrounds them. Everyone in their uni is so toxic, it's horrible :((

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Ep 11 was sweet with the day in Daejeon, but I was disappointed that there wasn't more of an exchange over the late-night tea. JY really shared, and I was hoping that SA would share more, too. It was great that she told him about the errand's true purpose, but I felt like she could have gone farther.

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Yes! After ep10, I thought, "Fair enough to develop drama in the story" but when ep12 went the same way, I did start to grind my teeth. I can buy that SA's self-confidence is at an all time low and she would be struggling to assess the situation clearly, but it's frustrating to watch!

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It really is frustrating, especially when it seems like every situation pushes her self-confidence down lower and lower. I'm honestly surprised she hasn't broken down yet. Seeing her suppress it all inside is much more painful than her actually crying it out :"( Although it would be heartbreaking, I'm expecting some form of emotional explosion or outburst from SA soon. She needs to let it all out and release all those suppressed bottled-up emotions T^T

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So true, I felt like I was going to emotionally explode watching episode 12 because I’m so sick of the way everyone treats SA. She found out she was being used, people were talking about her behind her back, and then she sees JY and JK together when she’s at her lowest. SA needs to let it out next week or God knows I will !

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It's sad because we ourselves know that show is being a tease by giving us the cute then the angst afterwards, yet we're still hanging in for more. But I do agree that it's getting slightly overused. WE GET IT but can we like move on already? Sigh...fingers crossed next week will give us something a little different.

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This nails it on the head for me. I feel like the last 4 episodes have been like watching someone struggle in quicksand. There have been some sweet moments, but by and large it has felt more stationary than the first half of the show. I don't mind moving slowly, but we do need to keep moving here. Fingers xd for the last 4 episodes!

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I have no watched episode 11 and 12, because of what you basically said. I am exhausted. Dont get me wrong, I love the set up of the drama, I love love the actors, but emotionally, I am drained.

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The fluttery feels I got from ep 11 couldn’t compensate the aghast of ep 12 😢.. i feel for SongAh. Can’t wait for next episode to see what happen next

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aghast. great word. I was also aghast at just the continual pile-on in Episode 12... everybody had it out for Song-Ah, it seems, and so even though Episode 11 was sweet and re-affirming I was really depressed by the end of Episode 12, ready to counsel Song-Ah to just chuck it all and go join a nunnery.

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NO! You did not just give me a vision of a Korean Sister Act with SA playing the violin as the timid nun. LOL!

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Thank you for the weecap @missvictrix!

This week’s episodes were an emotional ride. Joonyoung has turned out to be a wonderful boyfriend! His smile every time he sees Songah has me in puddles. The Daejeon date was pure magic. I can totally see the two of them moving out somewhere quieter and just living happily and being in love, far away from all the toxic people in their lives. Joonyoung’s genuine desire to be Songah’s accompanist was also so nice to see. He’s so patient and kind, it’s so swoony.

But he can’t protect Songah from everything. It was so hard to watch all those people talk down to her this week. Professor Lee is a nasty piece of work, and I really hope she gets her just desserts because there’s no one who deserves it more. Everything Simon said (heh) to Songah may be true, yes. But it’s also the delivery that matters. He’s trying to build up a business and get these people onto his side. Why on earth would anybody work for someone who talks to them like than on regular, unless they had no other choice? There’s a certain lack of EQ there I feel.

I wish I could do something to help Songah, but I’m also at a loss. There’s not much she can do in this situation, except maybe knock it out of the park for her graduate showcase? But even then, I’m not sure if that’s even the right thing to do because it would just get her stuck with Prof Lee for another couple of years. I think she needs to regroup and reflect not just on what she wants, but on whether getting what she wants now is really what’s going to be happy and healthy for her in the long run. Walking away is not always a bad thing, and if she needs to move to the countryside with Joonyoung for her own mental health, then who am I to stop her, right? 😁

As always, music roundup for this week and the link to the DYLB classical music playlist is on my fanwall!

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@choijunu Can't thank you enough for the playlist... I have it on repeat.. more than the feels that I get from this show, I have discovered that a new love for classical music because of DYLB.

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PREACH @jingbee. makes me wanna call my tiger mom and tell her i'm so sorry about throwing a hissy fit everytime she made me practice piano.

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@jingbee @ltung23 you are so welcome!! it’s been such a pleasure to put it together, and it’s definitely reminded me of my own love for classical music.

I also regret not taking my own music lessons more seriously and not pushing harder 😂 I want to go back in time and scold teenage me!!! I could be playing Traumerei right now!! My mum is SO salty that I gave my instrument up and just focused on voice, especially since nothing really came out of that either, lol! The other day, I sat at our piano and attempted to play something and my mum immediately came out and said, in that Voice that Asian mums use when they’re shading you: “You’rs playing the piano?! Am I hallucinating?! What occasion has arisen for you to grace us with this honour?!” I don’t think she’s going to let it go, ever 😂😂😂

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OMG.. I cringe whenever I imagine the day that my mum will discover that I love classical music after all. She will definitely yell :" I TOLD YOU SO! "

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@jingbee @choijunu to get your mums off your backs, i propose you showing them a pic of KMJ, "THIS. THIS. is why i'm playing piano again. NOT YOU." but then again, this may backfire if they both start going goo goo gah gah over KMJ ... "GROSS MOM" ... hmmm ...

i'm thankful to my mom 'cause her scolding has allowed me to play kdrama OST piano covers like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqhtteqS-_Y

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My hubby calls me that every time I ask our son to practice. 😂

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My piano lessons when I was a child was a nightmare. I dropped it before I gained an appreciation for music. I thank Bugs Bunny for getting me back into it (no joke, I started to love classical music because of Looney Tunes), and my mom for letting me watch. ^^

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thank you so much for the playlists @choijunu! they really make my days go faster during work!! :)

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I’m honoured to hear that it’s getting you through the day 🥺 Hang in there!

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Simon is indeed a piece of work, and he is acting with remarkable stupidity. But in s sense his attempt to recruit Song-A is actually based upon an accurate assessment of her real potential, just as Professor Lee senses the same thing. Song-A belongs in the world of music but not as a performer. Both of them sense where her real talents lie and want to use those talents for their own selfish goals. Yet, oddly enough, it is actually their cruelty which will provide lessons which she needs to learn in order to succeed as the manager of talent, organizer of events, etc. And their very ineptitude at human relations is the key to her being able to avoid a long lasting tie to them- she will easily be able to free herself from them at the right time and free her man from Simon as well.

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This week tore at my heart, but I once again have to hand it to the writer. The challenges and miscommunications feel genuine to the characters that she has built. Yes, I want JY to be clear with JK (uhem, just who were you with in Daejeon), but he is always treading lightly and people pleasing. SA is sensitive towards others and without ego, but a little confidence would really balance her out. I know that some are looking for more character development, but I'm ok with taking a bit more time. I still am enjoying the ride, but I am looking a little side-eyed toward the fear of the magic time skip.... let's get this story and character growth moving on screen!

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I am also ok with that episode, I guess, there really has to be a turning point, and that usually is when a character is at his/her lowest. That should be it though.

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We say no to magic time skips! Give us that character development on screen please!

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Wow...just wow. I cannot believe how brutal it is watching our two puppies get stomped on over and over again. I realize this is the gentle kind of drama where comeuppance for the bad guys means losing their jobs or some personal humiliation but I would love to see more than a few sessions with an experienced torturer.

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Heheheheh!!

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Brutal is a great word. I’m ready to drive the truck of doom over Prof Lee myself.

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Only if you are driving one with fairly high clearance and trailing a chisel plow.

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Whatever it takes!

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Can i order one more truck of doom for Simon. I thot his character cant get any worse but it did. Like who are u to tell SA she dont deserve JK! He is the one who dont deserve JK.

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Yes - where is the Spanish Inquisition when you need them? But then, of course, no one EXPECTS the Spanish Inquisition.

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There was no misunderstanding! Prof Lee baited Song Ah with the 'promise' of graduate program, thus it is natural to assume that she will be joining the chamber.

Someone must report Prof. Lee for abuse of power, unfair treatment, and the least of her crime is unprofessional treatment of students. Who dusts office while teaching! Maybe they can just spread it on the bulletin board or something.
I feel the fellow intern can be instrumental for this! She is super fed up with the nonsense and her dad is powerful enough so people wont touch her even if she causes problem.

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I agree, I didn’t really see it as a misunderstanding either, because it felt like Prof Lee kind of made it seem like Songah would be like her Jungkyung to Prof Song, and basically do everything that Jungkyung does, including playing in the chamber. It felt like such a natural conclusion to make, I was almost as crushed as Songah when they dropped that revelation :(

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Is Professor Lee planning to pull some strings to get Song-ah into the graduate program just to keep her around as an assistant? Because how often does last chair get into graduate school? If it took her four years to be accepted to the music department, how does Song-ah even expect to pass the exam?

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Yes, I think that's exactly Prof Lee's plan. SA couldn't do it on her own, but the profs seem to be able to convince anyone to do anything, so she's going to be bribing her colleagues for a pass on the exam to keep her assistant.

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In that case, wouldn't Song-ah and the gossiping students be suspicious if she passes the exam?

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I would hope SA's professor will be fired for misconduct so that both JK and HH can get the tenre professor position. This way SA can get a proper teacher during master studies, while JK and HH can continue their pursuit in music performance.

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She's actually pretty true to life. I know of one professor at a top-ten US university who forced his grad student to ghost-write a book for him; if he didn't do it, the professor wasn't going to sign off on the student's dissertation. It happens. With absolute power comes absolute abuse.

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Seeing Song-ah alone on the sidewalk, crushed, as Joon-young rode away with Jung-kyung, was really hard. One consolation for me is that this has to be rock bottom, so she should be starting on an upward arc toward the finale. The preview had two other consolations: JY cutting ties with JK and wedding rumors. The writer must know that we also want our villains to get their comeuppance.

One scene I would have liked to see: Song-ah's mother and sister's reaction to her dating JY.

In the end, I want a Song-ah who has found peace with her level of violin playing and has found a professional environment where she can flourish. I want a Joon-young who plays his own way and plays for love of music, and who is appreciated for his unique interpretations. I want them to have confidence in their love for each other, and I want to see them go home together at the end of a satisfying day and shyly close the door in our face.

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Ahhh, this would be a perfect ending! I also want to see a little JY being taught by his dad while mom SA looks on. Is that so much to ask? *pleading eyes to writer-nim*

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Amen to your last sentence!

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Yes so much to that ending!

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What I hope is that JY will finally level Song-A about his family- by way of explaining why his mom came to see him. Because her Unni is the solution to his mom's problems: Hit dear old dad with a legal separation- so that his dad can no longer treat his family like a debit card to an unlimited bank account. If he explains the situation to her and she hooks JY's mom up with her sister this problem can be solved.

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I love this drama but I didn't love the ending of Ep.12.
Song-ah spotting Joon-young and Jung-kyung in the back of a taxi together... Ugh.
Another repeat and too much coincidence, Seoul is a big city, you know...
I'm sure he has a reasonable reason why he was with Jung-kyung.

There are only 4 episodes left.
I want this drama to be a happy ending story.

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But by the way, even though he said his mom came, which is true, he also told her he had to practice with JK, I didn't understand why she had to be hurt after seeing them together in a cab.
Anyway, I hope it doesn't turn into an unnecessary misunderstanding. Our poor dimple couple are suffering enough in the hands of others. I don't want them to hurt each other as well.

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If the focus was on her seeing them together and Jung Kyung being the issue, then I really don't get it because like you said, our boy already told you that he was meeting Jung Kyung and he has also been the best BF by reassuring you that you are the one he likes now. What more can he do? I think it's hard and a little harsh for Song Ah to want Joon Young to completely cut ties with Jung Kyung, given their years of friendship and being in the same circle.

But I would like to think that it was more than just Jung Kyung. That was just the trigger. It had to do with everything that had built up. All Song Ah's insecurities revealing itself one by one, until seeing what she saw, tipped her over.

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Agree... But then again. She is also a resilient person. I hope, still... She will overcome all these problems. Also with JY, if she feels so uncomfortable that he spends time with JK, I hope she tells him, and believe in him.
At least, from SA and JY I am still expecting improvement.
From the rest of the cast, I don't expect anything😂😂😂

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It's always best to keep expectations low, then you won't get disappointed.

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I was kind of disappointed that that "coincidence" happened because seriously...I live in Seoul at the moment and I rarely bump into people I know, despite some of my colleagues literally living in the same building or area as me. But whatever...drama had to do what drama had to do.

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I mean to be fair JY looked miserable in the car. It wasn't like they were laughing together. Also we don't know where they were going, but like you said drama is going to drama.

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I did notice it too, they both looked miserable while in the taxi, and JK seems close to tears. Did something happen to the grandma?

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@javinne @letseatcookies @kafiyah-bello
I like this drama because people's feelings are so real.
I'm a little disappointed to see drama is doing a drama thing... Oh well.

Aside from the coincidence, yes, I understand more if Joon-young and Jung-kyung were smiling/laughing together in the car but no, and he told Song-ah he would practice with Jung-kyung.
So I don't understand it...
I really hope Joon-young and Song-ah won't go all the way back to the beginning.

When I was living in Seoul (about 3 years) all my friends were living in my neighborhood in Jongno-gu. But I bumped into people I know only a couple of times? Very rare.

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Right? hahaha the only people I bump into a lot are those creepy cult people and scary ahjummas/ahjusshis with strong elbows.

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Oh man, this was rough. I don't want the show to end but I am so ready to put these misunderstandings behind our love birds. As much as I loved the handholding bus scene, my favorite scenes this week revolved around the umbrella gift. JY was so touched. His child like joy when he opened it in his apartment. Poor puppy hasn't had many people to think about his comfort over the years. I loved when he unabashedly told Song Ah that he carried it with him every day! ♥️ She really has no idea how special she is. My least favorite scene was watching Song Ah internalize all the crap her weaselly former coworker threw at her. Grrrrr. He's going to get it soon, and I can't wait.
Some of my favorite moments this week came from Jung Lying. She's going to be a great teacher and I love that she put Prof. Lee in her place.

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Er... Jung Kyung. Not Lying. Stupid autocorrect!

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Lol. I also have type errors that I discover only when I have posted! 😡
So, understood!

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Yes, Min Jae is definitely smitten! Hahaha! Those smiles, so genuine, are just for Song Ah! Or should I say for Eun Bin!

I really am hoping that we all recover from the messy ending of ep 12, just please! 🙏🏻🙅🏻‍♀️🙈

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He's a noona killer, yet it's this noona that's taken his heart. I would not mind him and Park Eun Bin together for real.

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Haha! I second this!

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For the next episodes, I just want Song-Ah to act out of her character by chewing those people who are so mean to her: her classmate Kim Hye-na, Professor Lee, and Simon... To be honest, I was so impatient with her character in episode 12, like "Hey girl, just speak up... Because you have mouth for a reason...." and this poor girl keeps everything bottling up inside.... :(

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I thought I was the only one who was shipping Kim Min Jae and Park Eun Bin in real life !! OMG SO TRUE they’re magic, even in real life.

I SOOOOO WANT THEM TO DATE IRL

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Oh we're shipping hahahha

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@missvictrix giving me the giggles with that noona crush comment lol.

Singing with Enya.
"Sail away, sail away, sail away"...

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hahaha that might be how we all end this drama's run ;)

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i'm whipped for this show like JY is whipped for SA. so everytime i see this show in my kocowa, i smile with dimples (covered by fat unfortunately), look down awkwardly, and gently wave, "hello dear show ... ssi." :)

3 observations from another up-and-down week:

1) the cinematography in this show is top-notch. it was always great, but this week i realized that it may be next level. the opening cafe paying homage to surrealism, the bright blue/orange colors of the daejeon OTP day trip, and most importantly, the way the camera made SA feel small and lonely in the chamber dinner, with her sadistically painful polite bowing … if you want to take a deep dive with me, please feel free to stop by @ltung23 on twitter. stanning hours: open indefinitely.

2) i find it SUPER INTERESTING that people find ep12 so painful to watch that they are thinking of dropping the show! as kdrama fans, we’ve seen pain via being an orphan, losing one’s memory, being forced to twist a chicken’s neck, being run over by multiple cars at multiple times (or the same time) … yet everyone is so worked up ‘cause SA has to be a business woman instead of a musician?

but yet, i totally understand because the pain of this show is more relatable. we ALL (and i do mean all, even the successful beanies) have experienced the frustrations of career, feeling like the only loser in our field, the competition, the bishy power plays, the jealousy and envy. meanwhile, most of us are not orphans (sorry if you are; i love IOTNBO!). so, it’s utterly fascinating to see the reax to ep12!!! some shows have career struggles, but most shows, it’s almost a default that the male and/or female lead is like an underappreciated badass in their careers.

3) i also find it SUPER INTERESTING how we (myself included) are reacting to SA’s “lack of fight.” we fawn over these introverted, shy, kyoot characters while they’re in love and slurping ice cream, yet when we see them be the same against their enemies, we balk, want some sass and some weightlifting fairy kim bok-joo. as a sassy argumentative a-hole in real life, one side of me obviously yearns for SA to “stand up for herself” and “slap deese bishes,” but another side of me sort of marvels, wants to be like her. how she calmly collects herself before proceeding ... CALMLY, and confides in JY and reveals her quiet resolve. of course, the chamber dinner is the final straw, so it’s time to fight. but still, part of me wonders, if SA never fights, will i be okay with it? and is the problem SA … or me and my kdrama sassy biases?

ok, fine, i'm a biased stan haha. if everyone jumps off, i’m fine with it too, cause then PEB can be all mine! *maniacal laughter :)

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THANK YOU!. You've said what I was also thinking, and you articulated it so well (whereas, I could not even begin to explain what I felt). This week's impact is gut-wrenching because it is so real. The majority of us are actually like Song-ah, oftentimes we are not the best in the field where we hoped to be, there will always be somebody else who is better at what we do, and yes, we get insecure and hurt . That pain is familiar.

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oooo "That pain is familiar." Me too, me too ... To cope, picture KMJ (or PEB) quietly holding your hand. :)

This show has some elements of Misaeng (not sure if you watched that one), but instead of the dead end salaryman, we have a bunch of dead end musicians in a talent-based economy. Ugh, real life can be hard.

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Browsing thru my KMJ smile collection is enough. LOL. I watched Misaeng, and yes, I love that show too, relatability is at 100%.

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Hahaha! I live for your witty comments! My rage from episode 12 has abated. LOL.

I expected SA to fight actually; taking a stand for herself, not being pushed over, or refusing to be treated as a doormat in her reserved, quiet, hair-tuck-behind-her-ear way. A complete 180 would be unrealistic and bi-polar, though it would be highly entertaining to see her slapping Professor Lee, grabbing that duster and snipping it to pieces! Bwahahaha!

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You're not so bad yourself with your sweet descriptions of SA "a doormat in her reserved, quiet, hair-tuck-behind-her-ear way." admit had to look at some screenshots to see that hair tucked behind ear. :)

yes, our typical kdrama biases (mine being moonyoung from IOTNBO if you saw that) would've split the duster in pieces in ep1!! even PEB's old characters would've done it by ep3-4!

but what makes SA intriguing (and terrifying) is that we really don't know how she's gonna get her revenge 'cause she's so reserved! i bet if we get a room full of beanies to write the last 4 eps of a typical sassy kdrama female, we could all do it well. but i think if we did that for this show, we'd be STUMPED haha.

that's why i'm excited ... but also sort of terrified.

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I 10000000% agree with you! None of the rage and frustration I felt was directed at Songah, because this is one of those situations where everything is easier said than done, especially with regard to Prof Lee!!! Realistically, can she do?

Even just talking back to Prof Lee isn’t really an option for her because first of all, this is SK and if it’s anything like my own country, you just DON’T do stuff like that, no one ever has the guts to risk being seen as disrespecting your Professor, especially if your goal is to stay in the music programme and that Prof is your best shot. It’s just not really an option in her head, even if she had the courage to do it! All she can do really is realise that she’s not going to improve as a musician under Prof Lee and walk away, leaving her without an assistant.

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LOOOOVE how you mentioned the cultural aspects of SA's "subordinate personality." thought about mentioning this myself but you did it better. people just don't do that in good ol' korea. they politely bow even if their boss is abusive.

think that final scene in which the entire chamber orchestra is sending off professor bish duster reminded me of korea so much. the chamber orchestra is not much better than SA. they're all subordinates in the cartel too. and they all know it. but they do it, because they are out of options, like so many in the KR work culture. #misaeng

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Thanks so much for raising point 3! This really made me think: why am I starting to get frustrated with her seemingly passive reactions? In large part, it would have to be conditioning: I'm so used to watching dramas/reading fiction where female characters are developed as "ready to speak their minds" that it's started to sit oddly when a character doesn't. But also it's worry: because of SA's bust up with her friend, her less-than-good relationship with her family and so on, she simply isn't talking to anyone about what's going on. It feels like watching that slo-mo car crash - this is going to end messily - and I want to prevent it. Anyhoo, that's me :)

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your "slo-mo car crash" analogy is bomb, and was extremely thought provoking. 'cause it made me realize that typical loud kdrama queens almost cause their own highspeed car crashes and then the audience gets a couple episodes to recover. so the pacing is good. like KMY in IOTNBO, she causes a ruckus at the psych ward or with MKT, and then there is a natural recovery. and you're right, we're CONDITIONED to enjoy this pacing, this kdrama comfort food haha.

but SA on the other hand, because her character just takes the hits and mostly just simmers, it's almost a slow, painful build-up to the car crash (which hopefully is JUST the chambre dinner), so the car crash almost feels more painful 'cause we're seeing all the nitty gritty details, "NOOOOO SOOOOONG AAAAHHH." and we're just not used to this.

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This is a really interesting POV, and I'm chewing on this a little bit. Song-ah is going through some heavy sh*t and huge life transition in many ways. I don't expect her to go out there, guns blazing in all her glory. I also don't subscribe to the idea that everyone deserves to know your truth, but she's a grown woman and she needs to use her words with Joon-young - even if it's just taking a page out of the Book of Ko Mun-yeong (all hail the Queen!) and say, "I'm not running away. I just need some time to think. Let's talk later." As someone who also recently withdrew a bit from the world to process some stuff, I believe she's entitled to take the time she needs. But at the beginning of the show, we saw her communicating so her mutism seems a bit out of character recently.

I think the other thing that frustrates me is the feeling that the story's movement has gone into stasis a bit for the past 4 episodes, though I realize that my be my personal pacing preference talking. :-)

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sigh, you (and others) are right that SA is tad bit too mute the last 2 episodes. she talks to JY a bit about her issues, but barely. and this DOES contrast SA in the earlier episodes. it's almost sad how writer-nim doesn't give her anyone to talk to now that the summer internship is over and her friendship with MS is on hiatus!

i'm ok with the stasis in the last 4 episodes regarding the main career arc (which i think is what you're referring to, the romance arc is moving solidly in my humble opinion). SA literally hugs and pets her violin in sheer adoration and love. it's gonna take a village of bishes to kill this love, and unfortunately, it may take even awhile longer, maybe even 2 more episodes. :( it almost feels as writer-nim wrote her way into a corner haha.

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Regarding the career stasis, after reading other comments and perspectives here, I am wondering if that really is intentional. A few beanies have mentioned that pressure/tension that is compounding episode upon episode, and that at some point "something's gotta give." Maybe that's the point writer-nim is making - we can only hold our breath for so long before it explodes out of us and we have to take in new air? Maybe SA needs to, just, burst from this chrysalis? That would make for some fascinating story development, that's for sure!

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I for one do not want Song-A to ever act out of character and slap the B**s. Her reserved character and natural good manners will be one of the reasons she will be successful off the stage- it actually will be a competitive advantage in a world filled with outsized egos.

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left side of my brain: totally agree @oldawyer. what makes SA a wonderful, unique character is her quiet resolve, her love for music over politics, her class and elegance during trials, and her empathy, which WILL serve her well as impresario or JK's first student.

right side of my brain that is in love with jeon jihyun's sassy girl, seo yeji's ko moonyoung among many others: you don't want to see her act out ... for even a little? a teeny weeny bit? 😉

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Emotionally I would love to see her give these selfish fools a piece of her mind. But practically I want her to have the self-discipline not to.

So I comfort myself with a vision of Song-A sitting in the back seat of a really nice car while her driver takes her and mini Song-A to the bank. Because, of course, one needs to start early when teaching the daughter the business.

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The drama does such a great job of creating SA's dilemma. The writers put her in a corner and she need to make a decision.
She is not a good violinist but she struggles to accept this truth and she struggles to give up her dreams.

This is more than being insecure about Joon-Young and Jung-Kyung in the romantic field. She is insecure because she know that she couldn't connecting playing music with JY in the same level than JK and that hurts a lot.
That’s why she’s so reluctant to accept JY’s proposal to play with her.

And it's so interesting because SA lacks talent while JY lacks passion. One have what the other need but how could they help each other? Or its even possible they help each other?

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I squealed a lot during episode 11 and banged my head a lot during episode 12. I will comment on Song Ah. Girl, you were shown to be perceptive person who is not fooled easily...where did all that go? You are soft spoken but you gotta stop letting people treat you like crap. Simon's a weasel who knows how to read people hence he is so fucking nasty to Song Ah on her face. She is being treated like a push over and ain't nobody gonna change if she doesn't start becoming stronger and starts to defend herself, stand her ground and demands decency and respect. She may not become a part of orchestra but that doesn't mean they get to treat her so abysmally. It was hard to watch. And why on earth is she hung up on still being under Professor Lee. There is nothing in that dynamic that benefits her either as a violinist or financially. She always kinda knew why Professor Lee wanted her, hoping for an outcome while reality points to an exact different direction will not change outcome itself. Fact remains that you audition for orchestral position, fact remains she is still not accepted into graduate school...so why on earth was she hoping for a place in the orchestra when she was never promised the place. She was subconsciously hoping for it, she didn't talk the ins and out with Lee, I mean seriously....this made me angry at her more than at professor Lee who I hope gets fired soon. Girl, earth to Song Ah, act realistic, act responsibly towards yourself, you deserve more. You are skilled with admin work hence even Simon wants you. That's a leverage so use it. It was killing me and I wanted to give her a shake up. Sometimes, you have talent, expertise in some other field than where you want it to be. It happens, use it as a strength to counter act your shortcoming. You are 27 years old, you should know this by now.

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Same. Can't tell you how affected I was after watching the episodes. Might have shed a tear or two because it felt like Song Ah's hopes and dreams had shattered into a million pieces in front of her, and she's just left there staring at the mess it's made, thinking "What should I do now if I don't even have this?". Don't even get me started on the scene of her hugging her violin and saying "I love you" over and over again. This is real heartbreak.

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I feel that JY's life is suffocating. Because of family financial problem, he can't really be in sabbatical. Preparing for competition under the professor is not fun either, because he seems to be putting JY down most of the time. And I think SA is not in good shape because of her lack of confidence and insecurity. After everything that JY's done, why is she still so insecure about JK? Love/relationship should not be that restrictive, such that JY has to be careful with his choice of words and actions at all times. If I were JY, I would just leave everything behind and live freely with mum, I think they both deserve the break.

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I really felt for his mum this week :( She’s clearly having a really hard time, and it’s sad that she‘s caught in the middle, taking blows from both Joonyoung’s dad’s irresponsible actions and Joonyoung’s own misery because of the situation. I really hope she gets to remove herself from the situation and have a fresh start so that her relationship with Joonyoung can heal, because she clearly loves him a lot, she’s just being held back by all the guilt she feels.

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She doesn't know divorce exist in Korea???
She is such a loser!
And I don't despise her, people.. It is just that I am so frustrated with her!
Wouldn't she know her child should not pay off all his dad's debts, even if he was well intended (the father) or even if the son is not depressed, that he is... ?????
She doesn't know anything. She just cries and does nothing.
Divorce, throw that man out and have some peace for you and for your child...
Although the father seems like a unashamedly person who would go directly to the son to ask for money... 🙄
I don't see any solution for JY's family issues. Honestly...
The father should kill himself. He is totally worthless

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JY's mom needs to at least get a legal separation. It would be nice if SA could drag his mom to see her Unni. This would actually give that character a useful part in this drama.

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I do sympathise with JY's mum. It is hard to rid yourself from toxic relationship, especially if you've been stuck in it for so long.

But, she is not just a victim, she is also a perpetrator. She is the one that has the power to push JY to the corner. JY is ready to cut tie w his dad. The fact that he can't even remember when he last see his dad is a clear sign. His dad is able to make JY's life miserable because his mum enable him to do that. She's effectively passing on the pain to their son.

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Yes, JY's dad is the unseen villian of this drama. Thee are other villians, but those are the ones we see.

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She is projecting, its her low self esteem that is seeping into her relationship with Joon Young in the guise of insecurities.

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With all this sympathy coming Song Ah's way, Joon-young was the one who made my heart break in ep 12. He's on the sabbatical from hell. Jung-kyung pursues JY while still in a relationship with Hyun-Ho which leads to JY losing a life long best friend. JY's relationship with his professor is toxic. His professor is taking out his insecurities over his own ability as an artist and teacher on JY. His professor probably knows he has his status because he lucked up getting JY as a student and now he spends every practice session mentally abusing JY as a result. I truly wonder if JY even needs him. Everyone keeps pouncing on JY to perform knowing he's on sabbatical. Simon has overstepped beyond reason approaching both JY's mother and Song Ah. He's willing to trip over himself to sell JY out in the name having his own success in the industry .
Jung-kyung, with her background, has access to numerous talented pianists who could accompany her, but instead manages to guilt trip JY into doing it for her. JY's parents have drained him so dry he has nothing to show for all the years he's worked. Now he's stuck practicing on a piano that the school refuses to repair because he can't afford one of his own. After years of being tortured with competitions he feels are 'worse than death', he has to do yet another one because his mother would rather let her son live in agony in the name of enabling his father. Now he can't even escape all that hell at home because his mother decides to stay with him. And with all that on his plate, his one ray of light is Song Ah. She produces a smile in him that could light up the world. He ducks out on a practice session with Jung-kyung in the name of making Song Ah his priority. He cares enough about her to reveal intimate details of his life that he hasn't shown anyone else. On top of that, he is willing to come to her aid and be her accompanist even though he's truly overwhelmed.

Episode 11 was JY doing the utmost to finally make Song Ah feel secure, but with episode 12 it was unbearable to see how painfully insecure Song Ah is. I feel for Song Ah, but I feel she's needs to step up a bit in the relationship and just trust him. I felt his frustration when he snapped at her reaction to his practicing with Jung-kyung. She confessed first and entered a relationship with a man who just entered the process of detangling himself from someone he's longed for for years. Someone who was also his friend and through family a benefactor. It's a mess. It seems like JY has no one who can be his rock. Instead of coming back home he should've just buried his phone in the dirt and went MIA for a year. At this point, part of me wants him to just bail on everyone while they all go into utter shock over his disappearance. As they have a meltdown, he should be chilled out sipping a cocktail on some tropical island finally free of all the madness.

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I loved Jung-kyung this week. Her telling Professor Lee off was so satisfying, and she was such a great teacher to Ji-won. I want to see more flashbacks of Jung-kyung happy and laughing.

In a drama filled with hateable characters, Joon-young's father is my most hated character. He is the sole reason for Joon-young's depression. His character is unredeemable. I don't even feel sorry for Joon-young's mom.

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Me too. I love her joy in teaching and I hope she decides to teach even if she doesn't get the professorship.

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I just think they're not fair with SA. We need to get some things straight. She had have only one decent violin teacher in her life and everything other was respectively her own practice. The short 20 minutes lesson from JK gave her much more and improved her playing as all of those years under professor Lee's "teaching". Professor Lee needs really only talented students with private classes from someone competent and send them away like she was doing it because she is not a teacher. She wouldn't get through admission to the university in the first place if she didn't have a chance to improve and be good. Everyone is talking only about a talent but like JY told it on his interview recital with students, you can have a talent but practice is more than that. I've heard many pianists on radio here in France who won famous competition but their performance was only following the sheet and was lucking the "psyché", feelings and soul as if a robot was playing it.

The German school of music is known for this kind of approach to teaching music - you have to follow what's written on the sheet, don't think and don't interpret! But for me music is something magical which needs porting a personal touch, message to it's listeners otherwise it's just like a mechanical bird in a cage singing while the real bird's singing we can't reproduce only register it.

Those people criticising SA's performance didn't even listen to her yet. They managed to damage her little confidence she has had and now is scared to even play with the person she has deep feelings for. I would love to see that JK would offer some help to her and a proper guidance and she could show everyone what a student in the hands of a good teacher looks like.

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i like your more musical angle of seeing things. that it's more systematic oppression than SA's lack of talent. it's almost making me believe that the one possible ending of JK ironically being SA's greatest teacher have some legs! i was thinking SA will be the next great music agent, but perhaps, there is still hope for SA, the violinist. she just needs someone that will listen to her and encourage her!

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JK is a natural teacher. She doesn't have prejudice against who she teaches, she has patience and listens. She gives to her pupils what was taken away from her and isn't jealous of the performer's qualities. There are lots of teachers who doesn't like their students to shine too much. I don't think she is one of them. It would be a great eyes opening to teachers like Mme Lee if SA would become mastering her love for violin.

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I forgot to finish the last sentence 😬 - mastering her love for violin under the guidance of JK.

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my mood for the show the past 48 hours:

- up after ep12, loved the pain of the chamber dinner
- down after twitterati freaked out over the pain
- up after @missvictrix positive weecap and shipping!
- down after some great beanies critiqued SA's mutism and the pacing of the show
- UP after @kerouregan gave me the vision of the horrible professors admitting SA is good under new professor JK

HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL!!!

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This is lovely, and I completely agree. Music IS magical, and it isn't being a prodigy that makes it so. Just because you can play or sing the notes on the page with technical proficiency isn't what makes it magical. I sing, and I spent years dutifully doing that. It wasn't until I had a voice teacher who so truly loved music and it's alchemy that I think I REALLY found the magic in my voice. Singing suddenly felt like being lit up from inside. I may not have sung as technically proficiently as before, but it's like what that conductor told JY at the beginning of the show - YOU are the vessel that transforms the notes into something magical and intangible, that moves, transports, inspires, tells a story.

JY has a beautiful heart, and he has been denied the opportunity to put it into his playing. SA is told that all the heart in the world will not make her music worth hearing. This is so, so wrong on both fronts, and I hope by the end of this show both realize that it's a lie.

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I don't know if it's he same person but there was this lady who told him that it would be nicer if he gets from judges 2 times 10 and an 8 and be true to yourself than trying to please all the judges at once.

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Yes, thank you, that's exactly the person I meant!

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I believe you are referring to the female conductor in an early episode. She and Jung-kyung are the only professional/academic ‘music’ folks who have shown any sort of empathy to students.

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Why couldn’t she have been one of the professors? A contrasting voice amidst the toxicity of Professors Lee, Yoo, and Song. Someone who cultivates passion and emotional connection to music instead of stamping the life out of it.

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I think JY doesn't like favours and he needs to win the competition to get the money (was it 60 000?) and his reputation back. It's a shame but he needs to work with that professor who knows how the judges think. You could see it on evaluating the little girl by that evil retired professor - she gave her the lowest score but the brave girl managed to win. The professor couldn't forget her little rebellion against the unwritten rules and even if she played well she needed to revenge herself.

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LOVED this line @carlybisek "JY has a beautiful heart, and he has been denied the opportunity to put it into his playing. SA is told that all the heart in the world will not make her music worth hearing."

this show will go back to its beautiful roots: music and ice cream!!!

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I hope so, because music and ice cream are two of my favorite things @ltung23!

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I hadn't thought of it this way- not having the right teachers! You are so right.

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Dong-yoon was also Song-ah's violin teacher, though his teaching couldn't unlock her potential like Jung-kyung or even Hyun-ho can.

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He's the one I was referring to. 😊 Although she could have one as a kid.

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This drama!! It hits all the feels buttons, and I just cannot. stop. watching.
I agree with you, it felt like one big step forward, and then two staggering steps backwards. I knew it was coming, but was in denial until it actually happened. We can only hope our precious music couple comes out the other side stronger. Someone give our precious SA a hug!
And the way that JY looks at her...*swooooooooon*...

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One step forward, two staggering steps back feels like a hug then a head-turning slap afterwards. Gets the blood running, I tell you! Hahaha!

But it's all okay just to see KMJ. That boy grew up so well. <3

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This series could be presented as a companion piece to Sky Castle. It has the opposite aesthetic sensibilities of SC but both are about children broken by their parents in their never-ending quest for academic perfection and public acknoledgement.

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hello beanies, thank you for the recap, @missvictrix...
After watching these two episodes, I need to rant a little bit...
At the beginning I thought only JY was miserable and half of the cast in this drama was meant to be totally mean, because it is a competitive worldwould, I know....
But here we are, on ep. 12 to 13 and everybody is mean and miserable. Except for the manager Cha lady.

I am honestly resigned SA and JY are meant to suffer.
And I know it sounds exaggerated, but man... they are so trapped in a nest of serpents... very toxic environment... trapped with no ways out.

JY's father is such a trash person! His mother is such a loser...

SA's destiny in the classical music's world so cursed, simply because she started later than the others.

The reasoning everybody is giving you is: you can only be this and in this time. Anything else and you are worthless.

And the sad part is... I would believe it is true, exactly like that in real life. In such an industry, nobody helps you, unless it is convenient for them in their original agenda. Nobody cares if you succeed... But they will care in order to criticize you and if possible, destroy you, so that they can be first.

It is a world where people will step on you without hesitation, if that helps them to be ahead of you and others...

It makes me so sick!!!

I love classical music, but then again... if that's the way classical musicians treat one another, I am so disappointed!

Now the music is not guilty... I loved the scene of SA just hugging her violin, as to say, "poor baby instrument, he only wants to play, but I am a mother that cannot protect him"... It was so sad that it almost made me cry. 😭😭😭😭

I am done expecting anything better about anybody in this show... And poor Song ah and poor Joon young are victims who possibly would be happier away from the classical music environment of that university and its adults, but also few family members and ex friends...

Poor OTP... I came into this party, in order to suffer with them.

I need more than yoga to survive.
Tai chi, maybe...

I will simply resign.

The writers are really mean 😡😢😡

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Don't leave us yet, @javinne! There's hope yet, given the fact the show has a penchant for late bloomers.

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No no, I won't leave the ship... I don't want to leave the puppies alone.
But I am simply sad and resigned and not expecting miracles. This show is a modern makjang (I hope I wrote it well).
It is just that since our victims, upps, sorry, our main characters are introverted people, they won't cry and make a drama in the open.
But it is a makjang...
Everybody is cornering them into suicide.
It makes me upset.

K-drama rule: maybe they will be happy in the ep 16, the last 5 minutes 😂😭😂😭😂

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That last line; made me more anxious 😦 😥 😟

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Like a sageuk? LOL

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hahaha i feel your pain. but let's not forget we are only 30 minutes removed from JY opening up an umbrella as if it was his first time, 60 minutes removed from daejeon mega hand holding and mommy approval, etc. we're not at makjang territory yet (i think ....)

and makjangs are legally not allowed to feature ice cream/steinway kisses hehe. never. :)

perhaps you're right about dylb being a "career makjang" though.

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There are videos on YouTube by classical music performers who explain how this drama is accurate. It's good to know that some things were exaggerated for dramatic purposes but it shows how people can't accept someone not "knitted in the same pattern" as they are.

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Wow, poor people

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i just can't wrap my head around kim min jae being the flamboyant playboy in Tempted and now the piano playing good boy here. i just can't!!!!!!

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I wanted to watch that but the reviews are not promising ^^. How did you find it?

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the show itself is terrible! so bad. but i sat through the whole thing for woo do hwan.... and he made the 16 hours completely worth it hehehe.

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KMJ didn't make any impression on me ( this drama is my first big impression from him), but WDH certainly did !

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thank you for that comment. really brings me out of my funk to focus on what's important here ... KMJ, SHEER REVELATION. my first time with him *giggles.

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Seeing how ep 11 and 12 ended, I hope the writer will not pull the opening ending card for ep 16 :/ The kind of ending where JY and SA broke up in ep 15 to pursue their dreams and then closing ep 16 with both of them smiling at each other, standing 1m apart. I think I will really stab myself in the heart if the writer does that lol

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not pull the open ending*

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NOOO pls don't
I really beg you, writer-nim.. pls don't create such a lame ending for our dimple couple T^T

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Nooo don't put that out into the universe!!

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just can't wrap my head around the possibility of JY/SA breaking up for mere music. they're just whipped for each other. WHIPPED. have they even had 1 bad convo yet???

but is that the show talking or the super kyoots BTS/making videos talking? hehehe

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Probably a higher chance of SA initiating the break up due to noble idiocy, as she doesn't want to drag JY down (the point that is constantly emphasized by JY's irritating manager).

Hopefully the writer doesn't go this route *fingers-crossed*

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Episode 11's bridge scene was inspired by Claude Monet's 1899 painting Bridge over a Pond of Water Lilies.

I love this artful inspiration aside from music.

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This week eps are so frustrating to watch.
It is obvious that JY likes SA so much but he always been in the spotlight, so he knows how to ignore the chatters but SA losing confidence by each day is painful to watch. But what that guy ( I forgot his name!) said is true, harsh but there's truth in there.

While I think JK personal life is a mess but she seems like a capable teacher. I like her scene with that young violinist. I guess the same thing happened to her before so she can sympathize with her. I like how she gives pointers and manage to be professional during masterclass too. I hope she replace that prof and step all over Prof Lee tbh. But where is HH? I miss him

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