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Open Thread #681

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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This year has been a disaster for many industries. Global movie releases have been hard hit by theater closings.

South Korea was the #4 market for movie theater releases.

In 2019, 909 movie releases grossed $11.36 billion (US)

By the end of October, 2020, 382 movie releases grossed $1.9 billion (US).

South Korea is on pace to have less than 45 percent of normal number of movie releases and less than 20 percent of normal box office sales due to the pandemic.

In all affected industries, companies are pulling back from normal spending in 2021. The surge of virus cases is one factor. The other is the massive 2020 losses that have disrupted normal distribution channels and business models.

Earlier in the year, some projected a return to normal by April, 2021. I think that estimate is too optimistic, especially in the entertainment fields.

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What? I felt shocked that April 2021 will be return to pre-pandemic. I hope the return to pre-Covid-19 pandemic won't happen by April 2021 if so many global cases seemingly increases mostly from all European countries, UK and US (including those people who coming back into positive for the third or fourth time).

I think 2022 would be better to returning back to normal when Covid-19 will be finally disappeared. So let's see what April 2021 might be projected return to pre-Covid-19 era since March 2020 first.

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Be ready for cheap labour and more layoffs. It might be entertainment for casual crowd but a livelihood of 1000s.
That's why i always reserve 1st point for business-job in rating system.
So-called actors depend much upon commercials for their income. So its quite possible they gonna work in projects which they would have normally rejected just to payout their monthly bills.

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I would think that streaming revenues would be way up.

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That's hard, especially because I equate a lot of these struggling industries with people's ability to feed themselves and pay rent etc. Being a small business owner or a service provider right now means your life is threatened in multiple avenues right now. Pray for the pandemic to end, pray for the countries, pray for the people!^^

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So true. Tourism was a major industry here and that is just -gone- which is a killer for many businesses, not just the tourist operators. I hate to think what it’s like in other tourist-dependent countries that don’t have our welfare safety net.

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Little Boy - 1275k - Fast - really fast now - 19th Novembe4

1315k - 1st week of December. ohh. naah with momentum it can be around 1st December too. wow.

Market - I was expecting volatility in market but there was none. More volatile days were in October. Currency Market also not much aggressive either. For forex every day is election day.

Election - Few months back i had called the guy a bad politician and i stand on right side once more. Even an avg. politician would have secured 2nd term. Politics is a profession and people make career in it. Take it seriously. Still after such horrible performance the incumbent is giving competition then that shows opposite side is also bereft of ideas and loser once more is common man.
Simply put both sides are in together fooling the citizens. Always happens, happens everywhere in the world, happens all the time - each and every year.

As i have reiterated again and again - a leader is merely a symptom, and mostly a reflection of society it being part of.
Elections are never are fluke. Those who term them fluke are the most delusional beings.
Elections and stock market openly show you the social atmosphere of a society. Both have the habit to fool you but both also have the habit to show you the truth - that often taste bitter for many.

Edge was with the challenger from the start but the change of region and its social atmosphere - aka the momentum is with incumbent. This atmosphere is what will bring huge returns to them in future

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@wapz That's what i was pointing out for past few weeks. Virtual world affects humans. words have effect. I had tried and linked few different things with voters aka politics.
For the other matter - I surely think those who get upset over few buttons and numbers have weak mentality. Like/dislike/+1/-1/heart/emojis/shares/follow/retweet/replug/pin type of things mustn't influence someone as much as they do huge population all over the world. Only those who are desperate depend upon these virtual brownie points.

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For all of the American Beanies, this week was Election Day.

How do you feel after Election Day?

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Like I am hopelessly naive to have thought that more of the country would have voted the same way. Wondering how so many Americans missed learning the Golden Rule. Sadly, glad I am as old as I am because I won’t have to watch this happening that much longer. Feeling terrible for the future that the younger generations have to deal with.

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Still stressed out but saw a glimmer of hope this morning. Wishing Americans will wake up from this nightmare.

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I do have thoughts, but I think I'm in a minority here-- it's actually gonna take a lot of courage for me to post this comment, when the internet and a lot of people actively hate and belittle those who think the way I do today. Luckily DB is generally a good place to actually discuss and talk, not make fun^^ Anyway, I'll post my thoughts in last week's OT so anybody who wants to talk can, but I don't want to make everyone go through reading my stuff^^ (disclaimer, I'm also not a massive Trump supporter, please don't hate me)

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Tag me please if you do.

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Yes! I made this big long comment in the las week OT, but then I either didn't press send or there was a glitch or something, since it's not there. I have some HW right now, but I'll try and repost later tonight^^

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Hey, I tried to repost my comment in last weeks OT just now, it's still not showing up. I don't know if it's because I'm mentioning people by name or because there's some pretty horrific/traumatic paraphrasing from abortion videos in there, but I think it got caught in moderation^^ I'mma try one last time without the paraphrased quotes themselves, see if that changes anything^^

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yeah, no dice. Sorry!

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Looks like Biden pretty much has a lock on it, but won't be official for a while. Personally I am more than happy to start tuning out anything to do with politics for a while.

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Disgusted--with the massive dishonesty of the mainstream media throughout the whole of this election cycle, the dishonesty of pollsters, and the lack of transparency and the fumbling with ballot counting that makes many people lose faith in the integrity of the election. I don't know if there was voter fraud, but that's just the thing, it's impossible to know. And officials assuring us, "Oh, that can't happen, because it's against the law," is not at all reassuring. Because of course if it's the law nobody would ever break it or try to subvert it for their own benefit, especially politicians. Goodness no.

But I don't think it matters who loses or wins. America was established to be self-governing, with minimal government interference. The republic is already lost when people are of the mentality that the government has to solve all their problems. And that goes for both sides.

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For starters, it wasn't a day.

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Yes! As it should be. Increased access for all voters, regardless of party affiliation is good thing.

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Always.

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Early voting, you mean? I was talking about Election Day. @dramallama said it best

It’s election day (days? week(s)?) here in the States, and there’s no better way to cope than to stress eat.

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For all the US beanies, I just want to say that I hope whatever the result, the election can be concluded soon and peacefully.

I never realize that the election rules can be so different state by state. As an outsider I find that really puzzling. Im genuinely curious on why there isnt a more unified nation wide rules on something related to national interest?

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We're a very large country divided by states, wherein the citizens of each state vote for state government officials (governor, senators, representatives, etc.) to deal with the internal matters of each state, such as proposing and passing voting laws according to the will of the people in each state. It's complicated but it definitely helps deal with the changing needs of each states' demographics, etc. For example, the needs and wishes of Californians may be vastly different from the needs and desires of Mississippians. It's been working pretty good for over 200 years, thankfully. We'll get through this process too, it just may take a while.

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@yn00na—It’s juicy questions like yours that reinforce the adage about culture being the water we swim in. You just don’t see it until it gets dirty. It often takes an outside view to ask, “What the hell, guys. What’s going on?” I only started “seeing the water” when I moved from one state to another. This election year, I learned even more as I spent weeks re-writing a voter FAQ for our election website. It’s was kind of excruciating and exhilarating …

I’ve been trying to wrap my head around the why-are-elections-not-centralized question and, so far, have looked at it from these angles:

* The political culture of the post-colonial Constitutional Framers
* 15th, 19, 26th Amendments are the most significant national laws addressing voting rights
* The Voting Rights Act of 1965 reinforces the 15th and 19th amendments
* The conversation about disenfranchisement needs to include people with criminal records

The post-colonial mindset
As @becky noted, our states have a lot of autonomy. It goes back to our founding, where the memory of Britain's rule shaped the Framers deep antipathy towards strong centralized government. Colonial life was shaped by local boundaries and that didn’t change when they became states. The Articles of Confederation—our country's first pass at becoming a union of states—failed after 8 years because the central government was too weak—it couldn't collect taxes, it couldn’t pull together a national military and lacked a judicial system.

Think of the current Constitution as 2.0. The Framers kept this fragile, nascent union of slave-owning and non-slave owning states together by with a system of "checks and balances.” Odious compromises—such as counting enslaved people as 3/5 human when calculating population—were key to striking a balance of states's rights with federal interests.

15th, 19th, 26th Amendments and national voting rights
While each state determines its own voting districts and its election rules, there are key significant voting laws and amendments that impacted national voting rights. I’m not educated enough to address the landmark Supreme Court cases that affected national voting rights—but it’s easier to wrap my head around three Amendments plus the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Amendments to the U.S. constitution pass when passed or “ratified" by three-quarters of the U.S. States. The amendment summaries come from Wikipedia.

15th Amendment | 1870: Prohibits the denial of the right to vote based on race, color or previous condition of servitude. Technically, this gave former enslaved people the right to vote. In practice, the Black vote was often suppressed.

19th Amendment |1920 : Prohibits the denial of the right to vote based on sex. There were already women who had the right to vote but it depended on race, wealth, and where you lived. Various versions of women's suffrage were already legalized (and rescinded)...

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19th Amendment |1920 : Prohibits the denial of the right to vote based on sex. There were already women who had the right to vote but it depended on race, wealth, and where you lived. Various versions of women's suffrage were already legalized (and rescinded) piecemeal in a handful of states before 1920.

26th Amendment |1971 Gives 18-year-olds the right to vote. That was passed during the Vietnam War.

Voting Rights Act of 1965
Regardless of the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. didn't have universal suffrage in practice until passage of the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965. This is one of the most important outcomes of the Civil Rights movement because it gave legal support to voters fighting the local barriers states (particularly in the south) enacted to disenfranchise voters. Barriers included:
—Violence and intimidation at home and at the polls
—Being forced to pay in order to vote (the “poll tax”)
—Passing impossible “literacy tests" such as knowing certain legal statutes or reciting the Constitution.

In recent years, the Voting Rights Act has been somewhat neutered. In 2013, the U.S. Supreme Court removed provisions requiring states with a long history of voter suppression to get Federal approval before changing election laws.

Since 2013, we've seen voter roll purges and draconian voter ID requirements as new ways to suppress voting. In Georgia, for example, your voter ID has to match your voter registration exactly, down to the punctuation. So you’re screwed if your driver’s license says "Johnny" but your voter registration is "John.” In my state, our voter ID laws have no such provisions for exact matches. Wisconsin has some flexibility of what's acceptable ID—but understanding the requirements still takes prodigious amounts of voter education.

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American women’s piecemeal suffrage—before the 19th Amendment
The story of women's suffrage in the U.S. is a prime example voting rights initially determined by states rather than the centralized government.

Fun fact: in 1776 (yes! 1776!), New Jersey gave the right to vote to women who owned assets of 50 pounds ($9,500 adjusted for inflation). This included women of color. But 30 years later, bi-partisan bullsh*t eroded women's voting rights and it was back restricting voting rights to white males with property.

States like Kentucky (1837) and Kansas (1861) allowed some women (white, propertied, single or widowed) to vote in school elections. But it's the western territories and states like Wyoming (1869) and Utah (1870) who were the first to give women robust voting rights and the right to hold public office—fifty years before the 19th Amendment. (It's a good way to draw women to your sparsely populated territories or new states!)

Mississippi—better late than never
As noted above, it takes three-fourths of U.S. States to pass an amendment. Once it's ratified, it becomes the law of the land and the states that DIDN'T ratify it can take their own sweet time to do so—if ever. On June 10, 1920, Wisconsin was the first the first to ratify the 19th Amendment. Mississippi was the last to ratify—in 1984— as an embarrassing "housekeeping" measure. They also ratified the 13th Amendment—the one abolishing slavery—in 1995.

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Voting rights of people with criminal convictions
Folks with criminal convictions are another group of potential voters whose rights differ from state to state.
—Maine and Vermont are the only states to allow convicted felons to vote from prison.
—17 states and the D.C. (including Colorado, Hawaii and Illinois) allow felons to vote once their prison term is completed.
—California, New York, and Connecticut allow felons to vote once they’ve completed prison and parole.
—19 states, including my state of Wisconsin, allow felons to vote once they’ve completed entire sentence (prison, parole, probation)—we call being “off paper”.
—In nine states (including Delaware and Wyoming), felons with certain convictions** permanently lose the right to vote. (“Certain convictions” usually includes murder and felony sexual offense)

Florida and the new “poll tax”
In Nov. 2018, the Florida electorate passed Amendment 4 by 65%, restoring voting rights to people who’ve completed their sentences. This added a potential 1.4 potential million voters to the rolls—10% of the voting age population (VAP). Months later, Republican state leadership passed a law called called SB7066 to “clarify” that the amendment includes paying financial penalties.

Months before the 2020 presidential election, all those newly enfranchised former felons lost the right to vote again. Voting rights are restored by proving that they paid fines owed. (I don’t know the average cost of penalties owed; one paper I read estimated $1,500.) On top of that, it’s challenging figuring out the fines in the first place because sentencing documents are decentralized; there’s no single institution tracking penalties paid or owed.

Appellate courts have upheld SB7066 and this will likely go to the Supreme Court (though there’s no guarantee the court will choose to hear the case.)

This is just a cursory view some of the tensions between national and state election laws. One of the things that really upsets me now is how early voting (mail-in, absentee ballots) are accepted or counted differently depending on your state! Democrats got an extension to count ballots postmarked Nov. 3 (Election Day) but received AFTER Nov. 3 up to Nov. 9. Republicans challenged the decision, which was reversed by Supreme Court. And although I voted early, my ballot counted AFTER Election Day in-person ballots. Other states are able to start counting as soon as they’re received. Alaska, on the other hand, won’t start counting their absentee ballots until next week!

Blaaaaargggghhhh

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* Meant to say that Wisconsin Democrats got an extension to count ballots postmarked Nov. 3 ...

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@tsutsuloo Wow!!! Thank you for taking the time and providing such comprehensive and fascinating answer. I started paying attention on American history (and really, history in general) after Hamilton. I think that we feel the imprint of history the most within politic and religion.

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As a HAMILTON again, you already know more about the Constitutional Convention than I ever did as American kid in US history class. 😉

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@tsutsuloo The amount of informations packed in Hamilton is astounding. When you mentioned 1776 for women voting in New Jersey, my immediate thought was - hey, that's when Hamilton first met Burr on the play (after effect of listening the play on Spotify for months 😄)

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This is amazing! Thank you for taking the time to put out the dates and times for each event. This is what every American should just know already. <3

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It would help if we weren't voting following guidelines that are 200 years out of date. In a real democracy 1 vote means it's your vote and majority should rule. As long as the electoral college survives we are playing stupid games.
Also, in your state they get to decide what sort of education you get. So if you live in a conservative state you get conservative misinformation about your own history and slavery and most Americans don't learn about the World or how actual history went unless they go to college (my experience being from Texas) or make a point to try and look it up themselves. People don't like to question what they are taught growing up and it's why America is such a sick Country. I'm dying (literally) to leave it. Don't get me into the health care /mental heath here. XD

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Still stressed.

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i'm relieved the country is not burning to the ground... orange man's people are keeping him at bay as best they can. he is trying to instigate rioting/mayhem, but it isn't working because the rest of the country isn't falling for his lies and incessant whining...

please let this nightmare be over sooner, rather than later. but i'm willing to be patient and let the process continue, be recounted if necessary, etc. the results will stand.

however, we are waiting on baited breath after the election results determine that trump is out. then we have to suffer until the january inauguration... he can still do more damage (and he WILL wreak as much havoc as he can) in the next two months...

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We have started a small lockdown this week. It was supposed to be just entertainment/bars, pubs/theaters and gyms, but all my classes were either cancelled ("this course will be offered next year again"), or is now online. The government made it clear that education would go on normally, but as I see right now, I dont see we even coming back this year (it will all be online). Maybe January, it will depend how the end of the year celebrations goes.

Nobody wants to tell us, but it is there. Some people are still working, some other people need to take 3 different public transportation to get to class, so we dont want to risk it. Which is right, but also kinda weird. I had to go pick up some winter socks and they only had in the shop at the mall. Oh, it was so full. Made me think that is next to shutdown and people will go crazy if they cant do their Xtmas shopping. I think the old "lets go to the shop and see" era is over. You can do that online, but now, it feels that if you spend a little bit over 2 minutes choosing it, someone comes ask if you need help and send you out of the shop. Shop fast. Go.

Its been harder this time. Its getting darker earlier too.

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Are you from UK?

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No, Germany.

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Be careful, stay safe.

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I hope your lockdown is brief and successful. Ours was coming into winter (Southern Hemisphere, so it was in April) and it’s definitely harder to stay upbeat as the days get darker. Stay healthy!

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Empty feeling after the exams finished. Also I suddenly can't enjoy dramas like before. Before exam all I felt was like watching but now that I am free idk...

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i feel the same thing, i had my whole list planned out, but it hurts my eyes to just watch tv nowadays bc of all the screen time

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Happy Friday beanies! Hope you all are doing okay! ❤️

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After @catocat mentioned last week that the FL in Neechan no Koibito (Older Sister's Lover) was refreshingly different from normal, I decided to check it out. This was a HUGE MISTAKE.

Because I loved it and wished I'd waited until I could have watched all 8 episodes in one go, instead of only 1 a week.

What I particularly liked about it (apart from the FL being different, the ML being interesting and all the colleagues & family members being nice) was that it is firmly set today, October/November 2020. Unlike a lot of other dramas, it mentions covid and lockdown. The leads talk about how worried they were that they were going to lose their jobs and they have received bonuses for continuing to work under tough conditions.

I hadn't realised how much I wanted to see this in dramas. All other ones seem to act as if it never happened (it's possible of course that I've missed it) and we only hear about covid in dramaland if it delays the airing of a drama. Having it talked about added a sense of realism that I loved.

Anyway, don't watch Neechan no Koibito. You'll be like me, you'll get hooked, and the wait for your one episode a week will be agony. Wait until December when it's finished.

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You shouldn't have written this to lure us then 😅 I'm totally planning on checking it out despite your warning. Whenever I need to watch sth different from the usual and sth that breaks the norm I feel among asian dramas, I find more options in the J dramas.
Regarding covid, China has already made two dramas, there are lots of documentaries too but I guess since this is a situation we are living in, not many productions will consider it a good option to air shows on this topic rn. In your description of this drama, what appealed to me was the different female lead and happy family but as soon as I read Covid, I'm not thay sure about watching it. Watching or reading upon sth that has passed is very different compared to watching sth based on a situation that still occurs and you're still hearing of people passing away from it. This is coming from someone who watches dramas mostly for the realism embedded in a fictional story but in Covid I prefer watching dramas for escapism. The news and surroundings are enough to tell me how catastrophic this situation can get and the emotions are already high, though when the situation will pass hopefully soon, it will be different to look back when the sotuation is better.

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I should probably clarify that this isn't a drama about Covid at all. But so many other dramas feel like they're set in 2019 or earlier - and don't even acknowledge that things have happened/changed - that even the mention of job insecurity through it all felt rather refreshing.

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Possibly to do with when they’re written? I imagine in the next few years we’ll start getting more pandemic life in dramas, a bit like how there was a lag to mentioning the global financial crisis in stuff.

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Hello Beanies! Happy Friday!

It’s been a tense week here in the US, with the election and all. Not even K-drama could keep my anxiety in check. But the picture seems a bit clearer this morning! Also, I have the day off from work and our weather today is amazing, so I’m feeling way better already.

Hope you’re all well and staying safe!

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Enjoy the lovely weather and get some fresh air!

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I have claimed, for fangirling purposes, Lee Jong-suk (whom I've missed), Kim Soo-hyun, and Song Joong-ki, each one of who is BIG on swoony and heart fluttering. Additionally, I hereby claim Park Bo-gum who, in fact, has kept us well-fed, and I can't wait for his movie Seo Bok!

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For some strange reason I've found it hard to concentrate on kdramas for the last 3 days. Watch about 3 minutes, check two or three news sites, watch...

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I haven't watched any dramas since Monday with my anxiety. I couldn't concentrate through my doomscrolling.

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In related news, this morning I feel a little bit like nervously celebrating.

Also, "doomscrolling" must be the 2020 word of the year.

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I'm stopping myself from celebrating until they call Pennsylvania. Georgia is headed for a recount, Nevada is slow to count, and I'm still nervous about Arizona.

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Like, what is NV even doing?!? A long lunch? My rational mind is firmly on the side of measured, methodical counting, but my animal mind is like COUNT FASTERRRRRRR!

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@carlybisek CBme And this is Nevada, the home of gambling. They make a living off of counting!

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doomscrolling is perfect

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Yep, no dramas watched all week. Real life drama far too addictive 😝 I realize how distracted I am when I read the Start Up recaps and comments and think, are we watching the same show? I like it but have no sense that it is brilliantly written, etc. Can we ever go back to “normal”?

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Your situation made me realize how I was happy that we don't elect "our president" (there are 7 forming the federal council) in Switzerland. We can't trust people :p

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We can't trust people neither, but whom we really can't trust is the Electoral College.

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When I lived in Switzerland, I so admired the way you do democracy. And health insurance.

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Oh, you lived in Switzerland! How long and where?

I like our democracy too. I don't think there is a perfect system, but I like the fact we can decide a lot of things.

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Agree - no truly perfect system, but the direct participation of the Swiss is definitiely one of your strenghts!

I lived in Zurich for 10 years. :-) Which side of the Röstigraben do you live on? 😊

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@carlybisek I live in the French part, between Lausanne and Montreux, on the shores of Lake Léman.

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You have lots of referendums. I lived in Geneva in 2009. Health system is brilliant. It's a very civilized country, although the car drivers are terrifying. I was nearly taken out at the traffic lights once.

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I’ve given up on checking election coverage - there’s not going to be a runaway winner so it’s going to drag through litigation and there won’t be a winner announced for months. Sometimes I’m glad I live in a small country so we don’t have to deal with such an unwieldy system - but on the other hand it affects us all even if we don’t live there.

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Mew Supposit's music videos are the only thing that's keeping me going.

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Mew 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

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And Mew is the sun and Gulf is the sunflower.

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Yesssssssss

Too bad I actually don't like "TharnType" and think that it's one of the most toxic Thai BLs out there, so I'm not going to watch season 2 (which came out yesterday, btw, if you're interested XD )

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@bebeswtz I guess for some it was toxic, but if so I didn't mind at all because the end result is not toxic, and I do respect your opinion and understand why and other fans felt that way. The 2nd season's theme is apparently marriage because Type still isn't ready to accept and make pubic the fact he has a gay boyfriend. Tharn is partially to blame because he's ready to make a lifetime commitment so tries to push Type into something Type is not ready for. So obviously I've already watched it!
I actually love the MewGulf relationship more than TharnType and have more fun watching all their interactions even if it is fanservice and for promotional ads. (Apparently they've been dating for about 6 months if you can believe it...) But I like Mew more, because I love music, singing and I love his voice only second to Xiao Zhan. Your "Xiao Zhan is the sunshine in human form" is a beautiful analogy. Mew was asked to compare Gulf to a flower and he replied a sunflower. So fans started using icons: a sun for Mew and a sunflower for Gulf. So that's why I used that reference.
Wow, I didn't realize how much I miss bebeswtz!

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@bebeswtz Gee, was the word "pubic" a Freudian slip?? I meant public...

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@linda-palapala

I do agree that it's really fun and cute watching their real life interactions, and no, I didn't know that they were dating in real life (is this what you mean) and for 6 months for that matter?!!?!? But meh, it's not my business to comment on their private lives, they can do whatever they want :)
I like Mew more, too ~!! He's just so sweet and kind, just like Tharn, it seems :)

Yes, Xiao Zhan--and not just "The Untamed"-- has made quite the impact on me and has actually helped me quite a bit, in terms of my mental health, in the last little while, and it hasn't been fun seeing and reading about all the negative news that's been surrounding him, so I'm glad that he's beginning to come out of it

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@bebeswtz Between Xiao Zhan's singing and Mew's singing, right now it's too painful to watch XZ sing (I cry) and will be until one of his dramas is released. He has the most gorgeous voice I've ever heard. And as I said, second only to XZ is Mew's singing and he's just now establishing his singing career, which has been his goal all along. I think he made enough money from TT to start his own company and make his first music video.
BTW, I remembered one thing I didn't mention about TT - it's really a comedy, subtly so, so when I watched it a 2nd time I looked for clues and set ups (comedic type) that might not be obvious. The music gave great clues too.
The 2nd season I laughed out loud because Type was a typical "housewife" after the honeymoon phase. He complained about washing dishes by himself and ironing Tharn's clothes when Tharn didn't appreciate it. Etc. I've known too many couples in real life who complain about the same things!

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https://www.soompi.com/article/1436128wpp/hong-jin-youngs-agency-denies-accusations-that-she-plagiarized-her-masters-thesis

Plagiarism/copyright infringement traditionally affected across kinds of any entertainment (TV, music, films, commercials/ads) and even books, but also it did on thesis too. Trot female singer Hong Jin-young's infamous master thesis Research Regarding Cultural Content Industry Trends Through the Korean Wave from Chosun University's Department of Trade was slapped with plagiarism according to Copy Killer, a famous Korean plagiarism review site which began five years ago (2015).

My opinion on Hong Jin-young after plagiarism accusation on her master thesis: I hope Hong won't get a diploma because of plagiarized thesis, stopping her own promotional activities and even her career because I think due to poor sales with having no hits but only flops and due to hurtful rivalry of another famous female trot singer Song Ga-in and of course, she'll file a lawsuit against Kukmin Ilbo in which it reported her plagiarism accusation. Let Hong be a temporaral retirement.

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Plagiarism/copyright infringement traditionally affected across kinds of any entertainment (TV, music, films, commercials/ads) and even books, but also it did on thesis too. Trot female singer Hong Jin-young's infamous master thesis Research Regarding Cultural Content Industry Trends Through the Korean Wave from Chosun University's Department of Trade was slapped with plagiarism according to Copy Killer, a famous Korean plagiarism review site which began five years ago (2015).

My opinion on Hong Jin-young after plagiarism accusation on her master thesis: I hope Hong won't get a diploma because of plagiarized thesis, stopping her own promotional activities and even her career because I think due to poor sales with having no hits but only flops and due to hurtful rivalry of another famous female trot singer Song Ga-in and of course, she'll file a lawsuit against Kukmin Ilbo in which it reported her plagiarism accusation. Let Hong be a temporaral retirement.

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From what I read, her thesis quoted many authoritative sources to make her points. Those quotations lead to the plagiarism allegation, but her professor said there was nothing wrong with her paper.

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Beanies, it's been a week. I need to turn off the news, but I can't help keep one eye glued since I woke up on Weds. Keeping myself going with regular check-ins with friends and family, brisk walks (within my confinement allotted 60 minutes), escapism-through-books, and, of course, a uniquely blended Fox Sauce that seems to cure all manner of ills.

Strangely, I feel closer to home than I have in a long time. Keeping my fingers xd that we can all stay calm, focused and rational. And, honestly, that our institutions and rule of law hold.

I wish you all a happy weekend, mild weather, good health, and enjoyable watching!

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!

I GOT THE JOB!!!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

After 5 years of bad luck, (near-)depression, shame, guilt and nagging the veteran Beanies every week on OT I have a permanent job!😭🥺😄 If you thought I was sentimental before, you would do well to skip this post!😉

Not only do I start December 1st, still in 2020 as I had anticipated in my end-of-the-year-review last year, but I also got my favorite department (well, the lesser of the few available evils😉) and the nearest location in the center of my own town/city! Another perk is that I get to start at the bachelor graduate level I aspired to reach around my retirement. Finding administrative jobs with little work experience has been difficult, despite my master’s degree, so I had hoped to work my way up from high school graduate towards bachelor graduate level eventually. Job security should also cease to be a concern, because rather than a non-fixed term contract as I had hoped, I will be appointed as a civil servant as soon as I pass my paid internship.😲

This is wild, how did I even?😂

For those still reading, thank you. My posts were not always pleasant ones, but you were all kind and mature enough to let me speak up week after week.❤️ K-dramas and Beanies have been my therapy from the very beginning of this difficult journey (I started watching K-dramas around university graduation and my first job search ever), and I will probably need to rant more in the future. Because my biggest adversary, my low self-esteem, keeps whispering. About how far off December still is, how long it usually takes to get appointed, how difficult and unpleasant the job and the people are going to be, how I might get fired again before I get appointed,….Voicing this good news out loud after a few days spent in disbelief is a first step in fighting back, no?💪😊

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Congratulation! 🎉🎉🍾

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Thank you!😀

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WAHOOOOO!!! Congratulations!! Well-deserved and well-done! I hope you celebrate not only the new job and exciting new adventure about to begin, but also your resilience and willingness to be open and vulnerable about your struggles.

You might try telling those whispers of doubt thank you very much, but I deserve this and I will receive it - because you deserve good things in life!

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Thank you! I'll certainly pass on that message to those nasty whispers!😉

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Congratulations! That’s great news!

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Yes it is! Thank you! 😀

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Congratulations!

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Thank you! 😉

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Congratulations and our best wishes for a bright future!

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Thank you for your best wishes!😀

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Congratulations Turtie 🥳 Sooo happy for you!!!

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Thank you so much!😀

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WOOOOO TURTIE!!! CONGRATULATIONS ◡̈ !! i've seen your posts on the OT for the past 2-3 months, and i remember how nervous you were in august abt everything, but it's so nice to see that things are coming together now!

i'm so happy for you, YOU DESERVE THIS ◡̈

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Thank you, yes, it has been quite a ride huh?😀

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YEAH and congratulations!!! All that hard work and patience, and hard work with patience and diligence paid off through your hard work and patience!
Yes you were patient in my eyes, because you could come vent here and let the rest of the beanies around the world comfort you.
Now enjoy your REAL time off before you start working!!!
Again - congratulations!!! 🎉🎉🍾🎉🎉🍾🎉🎉🍾🎉🎉🍾🎉🎉🍾🎉🎉🍾

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AAAAH! You just reminded me of all the K-dramas I have yet to start before December!😂 Thank you!

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Yayyy Congrats! And you shouldn't be surprised on your abilities, you did put in the work to come till here and we all witnessed that from your posts. I remember your first few posts which maybe started from Theme of the Month (or was it Year end reviews) and I thought you have been trying since 2017 (that was when it was posted I guess) but five years does seem like a journey which now reached a great destination despite all the wait. I'm sure everything in between would've been valuable for you too because sometimes we do need to go on a journey to experience a few things a learn some valuable lessons in life for things which one would've otherwise taken for granted. Just relax till december now and keep a positive mindset. Having a healthy work environment is more valuable than having work but don't fret about that stuff much, things will work out in your favor.

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Registering on Dramabeans became possible with the new format early 2017, so I did jump on the bandwagon and slowly became more active from then onwards, but I had been lurking or unaware of Dramabeans for nearly a year and a half of job hunting by then.😉 Saying that I would do it all over again might be a lie, but it is true that I learnt many other valuable things while not working that I would not want to unlearn. I recently reread my Year end review Trilogy, it has been a long time and a lot has happened! Thank you!😉

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Just read them again, I'll be waiting for the 4th part this year 😊, only if you want to write it.

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OHO Challenge accepted!😆 I was pondering the idea actually, but I am not sure if and how Dramabeans/Beanies will organize end of the year review this year.

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Congrats!!
You are my role model!!
I hope I will say the same next year.

I am really happy for you, really!!!!
🎆🎉🎊😍😊☺☺☺☺☺☺😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

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Thank you! I would not call myself a role model, but I am flattered that I am able to inspire you somehow! I do hope you do not have to wait that long to reach your goals!😊

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Woohoo, congratulations. You'll do well. Don't forget the lessons you've acquired in preparation for this new job. Patience. Things have a way of falling into place

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Thank you! Time has always worked that way for me, but uncertainty was a tough obstacle to beat!😉

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Congratulations! This is such wonderful news! I know you'll go in with a positive attitude since it can carry you a long way during your internship phase. Looking forward to your future work rants especially after you pass your internship.

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Thank you for the encouragement, the positive attitude is going to do wonders indeed!😉 I do hope to rant more about oppas from now on...😉

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Yay! Doing my happy dance for you. You worked hard to get this, you deserve it! 👏👏🎉🎉🎉

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Let me join in on the happy dance, thank you!😊

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Congratulations TurtuallySarcastic! :D

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Thank you!😊

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happy friday beanies!! ◡̈
this week has been action-packed -- makes up for all of the boring weeks i've had since school started. only two days of school this week, but teachers are cramming in work for extra grades for quarter 1, so monday and wednesday were super stressful. i also thought i'd be able to finally binge dramas, and i did get the chance to watch 2 eps of BTIMFL (only 3 eps left T_T) and i binged 3 eps of my ajusshi, which i loved, but it's too dark to binge, so i have to ration my time. however, i couldn't watch wed or yesterday, i was working a lot on college apps and i found my eyes have been starting to hurt bc of screen time (i'm on my computer all day now). does anyone have any recommendations on how to stop my eyes from hurting?

i also got a new phone (yay!) and of course, in the us, the election has set me on edge, i'm just waiting for results to come through. and i met a friend for lunch yesterday and just came from brunch today! i forgot how much social interaction with GOOD people lifts my mood, but these may be the last meetings for a while, covid numbers are rising sharply T_T

and of course, today is the 5th anniversary of reply 1988's first ep, SO SO SO EXCITED for the watch party tonight!!

i hope you guys have a good weekend-- the world is rough right now, but if you're feeling super down, i'd recommend catching up with an old friend-- maybe not in person if it's not possible, but even catching up over FT or text feels so good. wish y'all the best!

love and hwaiting,
shachi <3

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im gonna try blue light glasses, i think the only problem is that they reflect so much-- i'm afraid if i wear them during zoom calls my teachers may see me switching through screens asdfghf

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Though not official yet, looks like US election is basically over, so now I can get back to complaining about my favorite and not so favorite k-dramas.

Penthouse - EP5 and 6 got even crazier. I think more people will die, and I think a lot more SHOULD die. The train wreck makjang you cannot look away from.

Fly Dragon - Kind of reminds me of the Mr. Jo 1 and 2, but so far seems interesting. I am a sucker for revenge and chaebol takedown dramas so I might be biased.

Kairos - good start, but most dramas have a good first two episodes. Signal vibes but different enough to make it interesting.

Search - dropped it, too many plot holes and had enough pseudo zombies for this year.

Start Up - A must watch for me. And rather surprising for a k-drama it is actually pretty realistic (discounting the usual love triangle parts).

Other shows I am kind of watching, but does not bother me much to go fix a sammich while running.

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Penthouse has gotten crazier? Wow. May have to restart after it finishes airing.

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After that 16 hours waste of time called "Alice", what time travel dramas from korea, japan and china can you recommend to me? :)

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Some day one day from Taiwan. It's actually the smartest time travel drama I've seen coming from this region. Also it's just 13 episodes long.

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I see Viki has it, added to my watch list. Taiwan dramas have gotten better over the past couple of years it seems. https://www.viki.com/tv/36775c-some-day-or-one-day

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I rarely check Taiwanese dramas, only when there is some sort of hype about a certain one but their production values, acting, stories are good. Another favorite is slice of life drama Yong Jiu Grocery Store, that too is on viki.

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Tunnel - thriller detective show w Choi Jin Hyuk.
Go Back Couple - romcom family. Jang Nara 😍
Both I think are solid show in their own way. The time travel component are simple and straightforward in both.

Tomorrow With You - Lee Jee-hoon and Shin Min-a. The time travel component is more prominent on the plot. It was interesting in the beginning and than it became a bit convoluted.

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I recommend Tomorrow with You, if you are looking for a love story that's well done, along with the time travel.

Great time travel--Tunnel.

Not sure if they technically count as time travel, but Life on Mars and Signal were excellent.

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Kairos! Join us making theories, it only has 4 episodes so far and I'm excited to see what is in store in the remaining 12 eps. Hopefully it remains solid till the end 😆

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Queen In-hyun's Man

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Signal, signal, signal (not sort of time travel but you know, you can only time travel if you can travel faster than the speed of light sound
Nine: Nine Times time travel

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Japanese : Nobunaga Concerto, The Girl Who Leapt Through Time

Korean : Tunnel, Queen In-Hyun's Man, Nine Times Travel, Life on Mars, Live Up To Your Name, Splash Splash Love

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Nice list.

I would add "Today I Date the Yesterday's You".

"Chonmage Purin" is fun and light in that family tv way. But if you want so bad its fun then "Time Slip Dr. Jin" is so that and more. It's hard to believe it is the same Song Seung-Heon as in "Black"

As one from left field " Soaking Wet Private Detective Hagoromo Mizuno". It is very light, J version of silly and takes a couple of episodes to find its feet. However it has a quirky sensibility and is so meta with itself it is a fun way to pass time.

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"Today I Date the Yesterday's You" was a good movie!

I didn't know Chonmage Purin.

Soaking Wet Private Detective HAgomoro Mizuno looks funny.

I forgot Kiss that Kills (Todome no Kisu) in Japanese list. It was really great. Mugi Kadowaki and Kento Yamazaki had a great chemistry.

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I also forgot "Cyborg She"...
Mainly because I usually think of it as sci-fi. However, some beautiful performance moments by Haruka Ayase.

"Today I Date the Yesterday's You" to me was so existentially beautiful and painful at the same time. This story realises the paradox is the story and jumps in head first. Something SK Drama has such trouble with and why its sci-fi always gets caught in a quagmire (ALICE I'm looking at you)

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There are two Japanese ones that I love:

(1) The original "Jin" (both seasons), with an outstanding ensemble cast led by Osawa Takao and Ayase Haruka.

(2) "Juu nen saki mo kimi ni koishite" ("I'll still love you 10 years from now"), a 6-episode drama starring Uchino Seiyo (also in "Jin") and Ueto Aya.

"Jin" is quite well known among Beanies, I think, since there's a Korean remake of it. But I've never encountered anyone here who has seen "Juu nen", which I think is one of the best-written J-dramas I've ever seen. The time travel aspect is kept simple and consistent, and like all good sci-fi it is used to convey deeper truths about the human condition. Under the zany rom-com surface, "Juu nen" is about how time can change anything, even what is apparently the most perfect love; more optimistically, it's also about humans resolutely living and loving in spite of time's ravages. I'm not a big fan of Ueto Aya, but she is pretty impressive as the young woman whose future husband travels back in time to persuade her NOT to marry him for the sake of her own happiness. Uchino Seiyo (also in "Jin") has the flashier part, playing the 30- and 40-year-old versions of the character, but Ueto is surprisingly good as an ordinary young woman whose present happiness at finding love is rudely disrupted by knowledge of the future.

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Watching and enjoying DO DO up through episode 9 except for the sequence from when little Jae-min steps outside of his house through the group meal. Writer-nim what were you thinking? I am super annoyed.
I will save my rant for tomorrow’s WWW or the recap if that appears first. I will leave this as a teaser or cliffhanger.
I will watch episode 10 tonight. I am all onboard with our OTP.

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A few weeks ago I asked for a good makjang melodrama. Well, I got it. The now airing "A Man in a Veil". It's so bad it's fun to watch. But actually, I take the "so bad" back in a way. When I watched the first episode I immediately dropped it because the acting was terrible. But around episode 20 I tuned in out of curiosity and got kind of intrigued. Plus it has the actor that was in a Taiwanese BL drama that I liked, so I kept watching, but then skipped to the latest episode 37 at the time. So then I got more intrigued and went back to watch it from the beginning. So now I'm watching from the beginning plus whatever the latest episode is that they air. Whew. But it's the makjang of all makjangs. I've watched soaps all my life so I'm used to this kind of thing and having fun.

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Well, Lee Seung Gi has (finally) announced he’s releasing some new music so I’m pretty excited 🥳 trying to control my inner fangirl so my husband will stop mocking me 😅

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Love him on Master in the House.

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Me too. I just watched the latest ep and he said it was because of him singing in Master in the House and it got so popular...he is kinda forced to come out with a new album. Hahaha 🤣

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Oooo... let me join your fan girling 😍 Have you seen this episode of Masters in the House when he played piano and sang You Are My Woman? I squeed so loud and turned into a puddle.

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I have 😍 He’s got such a lovely voice

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Ah, for the days when the only drama was kdrama! Things are exhausting. But not anymore exhausting than Hyun-Jin’s oldest mom on the delivery ward birthing experience ! She went from a high powered CEO one minute to an intimidated new parent the next. And then the postpartum center is sooo weird, what’s all that about? I’ve only watched ep 1, but I’m intrigued. And a little scared.

Start Up - I just like it. It’s fresh.

I only have the final ep of Record of Youth left and I’m feeling bad for Jeong-Ha. Hye-Jun’s family’s dynamics are interesting and believable.

I’m a fan of More Than Friends, oddly, I think because I’m hoping for some self-realization and reflection to happen not only with Lee Soo, it Woo-Yeon as well. Time doesn’t break bad cycles.

I feel like fall kdramas happened and I missed the big lead up to them and now I’m hopelessly behind. But never fear, that’s what weekend marathoning is for!

Oh, fall is also doing this: 73 today 37 tomorrow.
Have a safe and restful weekend beanies!

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Who do you consider a very good writer of kdrama?

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These are javabeans, girlfriday, and HeadsNo2's favorites. https://www.dramabeans.com/2017/02/top-10-favorite-drama-writers/

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Thanks for the list. Def solid writers. The first 3 on the list are my top 3.

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how it would look today, three years later? There must be some newbie writer among the more known ones.
And on another note, how long does it take for the writers to write a script? Because some writers do have very long gaps between each new project.

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There are some new writers that are very good. I quite like the writer of RDTK who also wrote Gu Family Book, Kang Eun-Kyung. I think Jung Bo hoon is also great with Prison Playbook and the Reply series. And Park Hae-Young who wrote My Ahjussi and Another Oh Hae Young. (And I just realized that the writer of the latter used her own name for the premise of that show. 🤣) Last but not least is Ha Myung Hee, who is a hit or miss for people. I think she has some very clever dialog and with a deft director who gets it, and actors who talk fast, I think that’s where sparks can fly with her shows. I love stories and writers interest me almost more than actors—although you’d never know that looking at my wall.

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You know, I just realized that these writers all casted Seo Hyun-Jin as lead in at least one of their dramas. Maybe I do like the actor or maybe she just likes the same writers I like!

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Park Ji-eun would top the list for sure with her mega-hits Crash Landing on You and You Who Came From the Stars.

Maybe Yoo Hyun-mi who wrote the highest-rated cable drama SKY Castle and Gaksital. We'll have to see how her follow-up drama Snowdrop fares.

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Kim Eun-hee the one who writes Signal and Kingdom season 1 and 2 is promising good writer. Hope I dont jinx it for long waited Kingdom season 3. *fingercrossed*

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The two bright lights since 2017 are definitely Park Hae-young (My Ahjussi, Another Oh Hae-young) and Lee Soo-Yoon (Forest of Secrets x 2 and Life). Both created phenomenal masterpieces in My Ahjussi and FoS - which are not your conventional kdrama romcom or melo fares but thought-provoking stories with tight scripts and 3-dimensional characters that stay with you for long long time.

Park has been a supporting writer for many years until AOHY whereas Lee was a teacher until FoS.

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I'm adding based on the few I've seen and the rest I've heard about these writers, not sure if they are as popular as the other writers mentioned- Im Sang-choon (Fight for My Way, When the Camellia Blooms), Jin Soo Wan (Kill Me, Heal Me, Chicago Typewriter), Kim Ban-di (Angry Mom, Special Labour Inspector Jo)

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My feet are still recovering from working at the polls on Tuesday. No amount of shoe cushioning can help with being on my feet for 14 hrs or so. (This is affecting my trying to take advantage of dry days and warmer than normal temperatures for autumn cleanup.)

Although several voters didn't properly wear their masks, we didn't have to deal with anyone who flat out refused to wear a mask. State law says every eligible voter must be allowed to vote.

Five of us workers at our precinct quickly worked out sanitization routines for used equipment. Seemed like we did manage to not mix up "clean" and "used". Two of our workers were older than 60 and the most experienced in 4 precincts that shared the location. They had to help other precincts with technical issues. The least we could do was to keep everything as clean as we could.

Kind of amazed that I didn't utilize the washroom at all at the polls.

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I've worked the polls for 4 years. This election was the first time that we were fully staffed, due to various organized efforts to get younger people to sign up as poll workers. Our county had thousands more people applying than positions available. Too bad the county announced it only a couple days before election. I could've sat this one out. My two "partners" probably would grumble a bit though 😉

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👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 For you and all the volunteers in your county! It does my heart so much good to hear that you all were overwhelmed with volunteers ❤️ Democracy at its best!

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