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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

stroopwafel

Start-Up: The reveal and reckoning were both so painful and difficult to watch. I don’t even care about the romances anymore, I just want Dal-mi, Ji-pyeong, and Do-san to be happy and live their best lives. Could they just be a little family unit with halmoni? I wish I cared more about In-jae but I can’t muster up the emotion. Her character arc is probably the only weak spot in the story for me so far; I want to believe there’s depth to her but I haven’t seen it yet. 

 

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Currently weecapping: Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol, Start-Up

Lies of Lies: I know I complained last week about the dying child trope, but once I got over the agony of that, I actually really liked our ending episodes. I was hoping for exactly the amount of twists that we got, and was a happy camper by the end (I would have felt cheated without them!). Also, I brazenly predict that we’ll be seeing more of Kwon Hwa-woon (who was also just in Zombie Detective) and Kwon Hyuk-hyun in the future (I’ve not seen Kwon Hyuk-hyun before, but he played a very watchable baddie henchman here, and as Woo Do-hwan has proven, all you need is that one good baddie role to get you noticed).

 

quirkycase

Currently Recapping: Tale of the Nine Tailed

Search: I was underwhelmed. The premise and basic plot were interesting, but it dragged and felt increasingly repetitive. It would’ve worked better as a movie or maybe a four-episode special. There just wasn’t enough going on to keep it tight and focused for 10 episodes, so it meandered and lost any tension it could’ve had. Sometimes it was a thriller, sometimes a mystery, sometimes a family drama – it didn’t feel cohesive and certain of its own identity. I didn’t hate it, but it left a lot to be desired.

Birthcare Center: The tone feels a little less all over the place now that things have settled – or maybe I’m just getting used to it – and I really appreciate how non-stereotypical this drama is. Since things associated with motherhood are often trivialized, it’s fun to see every baby-related decision given the same treatment as epic battles or political intrigue.

Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol: And we’ve reached the angst and noble idiocy phase of our story. Ugh.

 

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Start-Up: I started this a few days ago because there’s been so much hype surrounding this show. Seven episodes in and am happy to report that I’m really enjoying it! I love Dal-mi’s intelligence and outlook on life, and that Do-san is just the sweetest guy who truly thinks about others. Ji-pyeong is the one I care most about though. He and Do-san may have a petty rivalry going on right now, but I’m invested in their growing relationship (more so than any love line). It’s about time Ji-pyeong gets to be surrounded by love and it’s a good thing Halmoni has plenty of affection to dish out — she’s my favorite of the bunch. I just hope In-jae gets some love soon, too!

 
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Birthcare Center (Episode 5-6) - Mood: A-
Okay my prayer was answered and Do Yoon isn’t a cheater but the show tried to put my heart through the wringer with the Eun Jung and Delivery Man pairing which was teetering on the edge of an emotional affair! I’m glad that he treated her as a friend (I feared a playboy arc!) and she drew the line though her lies still remain worrying. Sprout’s mom being delusional over Glue Stick due to her baby’s death was a great twist that brings the thriller element into the main story: there were clues such as the wailing, black clothes or her wanting Hyun Jin to not breastfeed (she uses her own milk!).

Search (Episode 9-10) - Mood: C-
It was a really underwhelming finale with lots to be frustrated at. My main agony was seeing the stupid decisions made by the good guys with Da Jung and Ye Rim damsel-ing themselves while Dong Jin just outs his identity for no reason to Lee Hyuk. I also found Ye Rim’s backstory a gimmick that was largely irrelevant to the overall story which is bad as she is the female lead. Sergeant Joo was awkwardly written out of the climax but at least he didn’t witness the worst of his former commander who he looked up to. I’m unhappy we got no wedding scene! But Sergeant Park is alive so I’m okay.

Live On (Episode 1) - Mood: C-
I’ll admit: when I first saw the list of the main cast, my mind floated to an image of multiple parachutes flying in the sky depicting idols without significant acting experience landing upon lead roles. With coloured lens on my eyes, I watched the premiere and was disappointed to see the character archetypes: rude girl with a trauma, cold boy with a heart (I’m wheezing at how they got Kim Hye Yoon to throw herself at him), simping boyfriend (Noh Jong Hyun I pity you), whiny girlfriend, sociable guy. The friend from the past: she’s the interesting one, I’m staying on for her story.

Start-Up (Episode 9-10) - Mood: C-
In true drama fashion, Dal Mi just happens to stumble upon the entire truth: we already had a narrative reason where it would seem plausible for Grandma to have taken the wrong phone instead (her losing vision), so this mistake by Dal Mi just seems like one of those coincidences a more careful writer would have dodged. Also, I’m not sure if I’m glad In Jae is getting screen time to be privileged, manipulative, rude and arrogant but I don’t think Kang Hanna deserves the unprofessionalism. As for Ji Pyung, I should have seen the character desecration coming but I give the twist credit.

Also watching:
Private Lives (Episode 13-14) - Mood: D, Male lead rescues female lead once again from GK: deja vu?
The Spies Who Loved Me (Episode 8) - Mood: D, Stop dragging it out if the killer is Derek.
More Than Friends (Episode 13-14) - Mood: D-, The delay is just torturing me.

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That was a good twist in Birthcare Center. I couldn't figure out what was going on with the milk but everything fell in place with the reveal. So sad.

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I am glad that you watched Search so I did not have to. I could see it going downhill fast from EP3, and dropped at EP4. Enough stupid decisions and plot holes to make another Titanic ship.

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JAPAN -

Shanai Marriage Honey - 4/10 - This actress is a typecast now. 1st episode was as usual your typical shoujo trash.

Dangerous Venus - 7/10 - off this show is funny at times. meme funny but overall above average.

Ramen Goddess - 7/10 - She learned the things hard way but that also shows her skills = suffering she went through

Remo love - 7/10 - quality show. This show just keep delivering each and and every episode.

after arimura now we got Takumi the crybaby's fictional life.

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Rekishi - cute cute cute Fukomoto Riko. Short time and she has beaten almost all others in atleast cuteness.
This show is added into my top 10 shows of 2020. Concept and presentation of the show is quite good and the way business aspect is done by broadcaster shows their acumen.

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The Centimeter of Love - 7/10 - full name. That shows my interest. I'm enjoying this google translated drama. Nothing special in the story, nothing new in characters, not like things we don't know. What makes it better is everything cliche, every troupe being right in your face, writer has toned it down which makes it tolerable. Surely, side characters are super frustrating and annoying but you get through that when watch cliche but level headed, down to earth main characters.
Writer seems like have a grudge against old conservative citizens of society. Overall a nice timepass.

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@catocat
" grudge against old conservative citizens "

Every culture has its inbuilt contradictions so this is not a dig at anyone else's. It is more the writer appears to be looking at the limits of "face" (with a side helping of filial piety and male dominance). It even appears to be having a good go at understanding why current juncture is creating such cultural issues. I find it fascinating how the writer is trying to unwrap how the younger characters are caught by their own expectations and practices of the same cultural structures.

The ML/FL appear so down to earth as the writer has made it that they don't need an extreme position, they just need to let everything play out around them. To me they are more like litmus paper and in such a show its a comfortable place to have your leads.

I appreciate when a writer delves into the limits of their own culture because you know it can so easily cause a back lash. Also for some reason I have a strange appreciation for shows that look like they are just one long story and episodes are made by just cutting in the middle of scenes when the episode time is up. It is like putting a book down mid page.

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Korea - anything good to talk about?

Intelligent refrigerator - 3/10 a high level processor that magically captured the digital trace of whole city population. ditz heroine and muh hero. still among he horrible kdramas in 2020, this looks rather lite watch.

Barterstall - 3/10 - this show and its audience. heh. proper soap opera it is. This type of shows help you weed out the type of creatures you shouldn't engage with. Writer did good business.

Orphan Family - 4/10 - how much this show drags. These young people have no energy. Mother's crying turned out to be such a funny scene. Writer needs to get over dailies and should start writing something that might have value. Right now writer is just fooling everyone and no deserve any payout at all.

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I am rooting for the refrigerator.

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Ramen Goddess ep1 was such a good watch in large part to the old couple. Kawamata Shinobu's performance as the wife is pure gold (played largely from the back ground so you have to use your peripheral vision in scene but her timing is so spot on and deftly weighted). Yuina Kuroshima is always very physical in her acting but I was surprised at how good at this style she is and is not out of place with the 2 veterans.

Revisiting that ep I was surprised at how it is visually structured like the very best work of the Muppets. The closest thing to the way they play to the frame and actors stage the action to the static camera recently is an Edgar Wright movie.

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Search:WWW wasn't sold on it right from the beginning, as while it featured lots of interesting female characters they weren't entirely likeable. But that was exactly the point and after just a few episodes I learned to love them and the show. The plot was fast paced, it didn't drag. I liked both the heroines private lives and the business politics equally. And I have to give a shotout to the best drama within a drama:"What's Wrong With My Mother In Law".
When the Weather is fine only saw one episode, no idea what the plot is even about and it's a bit slow, but I really liked it. Seems perfect to watch at this time of the year.
DDSSLLS - I still love it

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Start Up- I still love it
Kairos on hold, this is the type of show I watch once all episodes are out.

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And I have to give a shotout to the best drama within a drama:"What's Wrong With My Mother In Law".

Yes, it was.

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Now that winter is coming back, When the weather is fine is a perfect watch. I’m anything but objective with this drama, as it’s a favourite of mine.
Enjoy its warmth!

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Search: www: so satisfying, to watch a drama centered on its females leads holding that focus right until the end. The main couple's romance was a bit underwhelming, but at least they didn't make it all about the guy's childhood traumas... And the sister-mance was just perfect! Developed a huge crush on Scarlet, such a cool character!

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Yeah, the main romance wasn't all that interesting, but for once I appreciated that romance was just something that was part of their life yet not the main focus, their lives didn't revolve around it. In terms of romance my favourites were Scarlet and Ji Hwan. Like you said Scarlet was super cool. I wish we'd get sister-mances more often in dramas.

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What was really interesting to me about the main romance is that they actually bothered to portray female sexual interest seriously; I still remember the slow-pan glamor shot of the ML, from the FL lead perspective, a gender reversal of a shot we've all seen a million times. How refreshing!

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I just watched When the Weather is Fine. I loved it. It is slow, but heartwarming. I was captivated by Seo Kang Joon's performance, so I moved on to Are You Human Too? He's a great actor. (I had already watched him in The Watcher and The Third Charm, but WTWIFine is when he started to really grab me with his acting.

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I think I have watched this show about 3 times. Absolutely love writing my own filler for what the show leaves unsaid and unshown. Also, kudos to Seo Kang Joon for being the male virgin and playing it for the gentlest, most relateable of laughs.

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When the Weather if Fine is my kind of Drama. Can't wait for the Winter dramas to come. Last year's winter dramas - at least those that I was aware of - were slow but I found beauty in watching them. Plus the cinematography of winter is always breath-taking for me (mostly because we only have scorch all year round).

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Which are the other dramas from last year with a winter setting?

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I just did a double check and found these were not last Winter as in Winter 2019 but Winter 2020. Ah, wait sorry I don't know how to tag winter in years but these were all aired Feb/March/April 2020 but filmed right smack in the middle of Winter.

A Piece of Your Mind is one that I found similar in the slow pace ehh but that got cut off quite early.

Find Me in Your Memory, Memorist, Kingdom 2 were about the same air date as these 2.

There was also those that aired earlier in January-ish: RDTK 2, CLOY, Itaewon Class...

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I won't be able to comment much on any current dramas today... and that's because I randomly watched first episode of My Unfamiliar Family... and haven't watched anything else since then. The drama feels like a weekender condensed to 16 episodes (or 20 if we take into account the real length of a TvN episode). And despite it is a drama (and the director apparently loves to make dramatic endings 😁) it feels very real (it also helps that the actors are great). The misunderstandings of the parents felt real (with all those sad consequences), the love life of the Second Noona felt real (with that lovely slow change of her relationship with her Friend), the siblings and their family roles felt real... and I was surprised that the character I could feel for the most was the (very) direct Oldest Noona - she (and her story) made me cry more than once. But after all the tears there came better days and the drama ends on a happy note with all our family members smiling.

(Of course, the most sunny character and the happy pill was our late addition Lawyer Min Woo (fantastic Kwon Yul). And I especially can't forget his phone call with his mom 😁😁, that laugh (and warmth) may be just the thing Noona will appreciate the most in the future 🙂)

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There is not a single minute wasted in My unfamiliar family. Such a perfect drama (and yes, you are so right about the red herring endings 🤣).

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There was that especially dramatic ending towards the end (E14?)... but retrospectively I actually found it very real... this was a nightmare, the biggest fear of Father happening in his dream.
(And, ha, I actually got my own nightmare this night as this morning I was supposed to give my first online lesson... and of course all went wrong in my dream (loosing connection, password and whole applications included). I was so happy when I woke up and realized it was all just a dream 😅)

But yeah, the director loved to mess with us 😁

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I would love to see a spin-off drama with Min Woo, his mom, and Noona.

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He came too late in the story, this character was so fun!

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Count me in.

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Yes please!
(And I would gladly exchange any scenes with the former MIL for more scenes with our Lawyer! He always left such a huuuuge smile on my face 💕 And judging from Noona's expression, I wasn't alone 😀)

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My Unfamiliar Family is a great drama. I had the same impression of a weekender drama but a better one.

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My Unfamiliar Family is 💚💚💚

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Could watch Eunhee and Chanhyuk's banter all day, they're so good together! And the family dynamics freaks me out - I feel like they spied on my family and kdramatized it 😂

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Even if we didn’t get enough of our maknae.

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You know, that scene at the beginning when Eunhee is breaking up with her Boyfriend and only pays attention to Chan Hyuk and they are so intense together, I was thinking Girl, your heart is somewhere else... then they confused mi a bit with current Boyfriend and Noona Crush... but luckily those were just red herrings 😊

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This was such a complete gem! It may go down as my all around favorite of 2020 just because it was good from beginning to end.

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It definitely didn't follow the kdrama formula of a weaker second half (though there might be some Min Woo bias included 😁).

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Min-woo for the win every time. He was like a little burst of joy personified. MUF is one of the most perfectly constructed dramas of 2020.

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Unfamiliar family is such a gem of a show. My fave for 2020 so far. It shows that you CAN put any characters in any makjang over the top situation but still make them real and grounded. All the makjangs were weave beautifully and serve purpose for characters growths, not just there for cheap thrill and time filler. The characters motivation and response are all cohesive to their personality and even when you don't agree with their actions/ thinking you can understand where they're coming from and sympathise with them as human being.

I'm wishing more writers take note and write cohesive stories like this one.

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MY UNFAMILIAR FAMILY was an outstanding show, one of the best of the year.

And as for Lawyer Min-woo- Our Unni, the beautiful Patent Lawyer, is clearly headed for a happy future.

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Omg i currently watching it. At ep 10. And who is this min woo. But anyways currently loving this drama. I'm following 2 other dramas and put them on halt after starting this show. I really love love the parents story. Never was the oldest couple romance that pulling to me. Whether they end up together or not I just want them to find happiness individually or as a couple. Older noona is jjang. Eun hee is so bright and cheerful and I love her jokes and how she diffuses the tension in the family. And uri maknae so sweet and cute. Really sad that I missed the live discussions but happy that I could binge watch the show.

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Min-woo appears in the final episodes

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I'm SO happy today is Saturday. I've been waiting the whole week for Start-Up next episodes. Ahh... it's only about less than an hour and I'll get to watch ep.11.

Life is indeed so good. 😊

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Alas, my Bean Count Record from last year shall not be broken this year.😢I collected 6 (2019) Beans last year and had hoped to collect 7 this year, but most shows that interested me aired in the latter half of 2020 when live-watching was the least of my priorities unfortunately. My new job starts in December with little time for K-dramas, so my K-drama year practically ends in 10 days. I do hope that I get to collect my fifth Bean for Zombie Detective by then, because going from 8 episodes a week to barely 1 is not encouraging.

Zombie Detective🧟🕵️‍♂️ (9/12): Excuse you, Seon-Ji. How dare you compare Zombie-nim to a dog! He is a dignified Zombie thank you very much!😤This sounds bad on paper but of course Choi Jin-Hyuk turns the whole owner-dog bonding into a masterpiece.👏 He also made me laugh out loud when he switched roles with the Chinese zombie and started bouncing around with his outstretched arms and bulging eyes.🤣Seon-Ji was right about one thing though, Zombie-nim is the most humane among all living things and he was not-so-secretly flattered by it!❤️

Shopping King Louie 🛒🤴 (3/16): “Hohoho, she is crazy!” should be my ringtone from now on, so I can hear Ziggy anywhere.😉 His whining and dramatics reminds me of Sabrina’s cat Salem.😂After nothing but bad luck for our duo, I became invested as soon as they started taking small steps forward, like getting a place and buying domestic stuff. I was not even bothered by Daddy Joong-Won Long Legs giving her the ginseng money and getting her that job, simply because it was another small step forward for Bok-Sil. I do hope that Louie will stop getting her into (financial) trouble and that Bok-Sil will eventually be able to stand on her own two feet in Seoul. Joong-Won can give them his amazing side-eye whenever they mess up.😆

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Zombie detective is ❤️ and 🤣 at the same time. Loved it and so happy I watched. It won’t disappoint you.

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Zombie Detective manages to make a heart-warming drama coming from the wackiest premise. And Choi Jinhyuk really shines - I've only seen him in The Last Empress and found him meh, but here he found a perfect fit for him. His commitment to the character is what makes this drama work, he's doing great!

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Tale of Nine Tailed: All caught up and ready for the new episodes. It is quite addicting fun ride. I want Ji-A to become Imoogi that achieves Dragon status, just because Dragon-Gumiho pairing will annoy higher-ups greatly.
Search: On episode 3. It is quite entertaining so far and with only 10 episode I will earn myself a bean.
Live On : Well, it was quite bland experience. The cast is quite green. The only bright spot for me was cameo of Kim Hye Yoon. That girl can light up the room with her presence.

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I like the Dragon-Gumiho pairing!

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and we don't need to deal with pesky things such as death, mortality.

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True!

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Have snake been upgraded to dragon? I think snake - fox pairing is cute as well.

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Yes, annoy those higher-ups

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I'm still watching I'm Not A Robot. I don't love it. I don't dislike it. I just like it. On paper I know I'm supposed to sympathize and care for the characters more but I realized I don't really. I love Chae Soo Bin and I like her character but why am I more intrigued by Pi and her ex. Can I have a spin off with the Santa Maria team? lol I watch an episode one day and then another three days later and then a week later. So it feels like I've been with these characters for a very long time but yesterday I realized I'm only on episode six. Ahaha. But I like it enough not to drop it and I want to see everything go down, no matter how angsty it may get.

Also, I am thoroughly enjoying 2 Days & 1 Night or is it 1 Night & 2 Days? You get the idea.

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Regarding 1D2N me too! I particular love the recent ep where Jong Min drew those pictures of fall. My stomachs ached.

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I'm so behind but I plan on catching up asap!

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Ahh.. now I’m feeling guilty! 😅. I started watching from ep.5, then I just couldn’t tolerate the temptation of watching the most recent ones first in order not to miss KSH’s scenes while his drama is still airing. I’ll catch up with the rest later.

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Lol whatever works for you! I'm slightly OCD so I have to go in order.

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The fall pictures had me too. Tbh I never thought that Kim Seon Ho could draw. He keeps surprising me so much. And DD’s cartoon is too deep for the crew to understand. Poor DD.

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I was pretty impressed by how a person can interpret the internal world of the painter. Btw, I’ve read somewhere that KSH really likes painting; he even took painting classes seriously.

But Jong Min is super hilarious. Oh just thinking of the scenes almost makes my stomach ache again 🤣.

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And how deep was Seon Ho’s drawing. I really felt sad for him because he was stressed, he never gets to eat, he fails most of the things and yet he doesn’t show anything. I think the only comfort he had ever had was the string of ice coffee he had in the first episode. That’s the only luck he got throughout the entire season. Poor baby.

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Really? Now I feel bad for Baby Seon-ho. 😭

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The actress who plays Pi is so good. You might want to follow it with Just Dance/Dance Sports Girls for her (plus it's a really good shorter drama).

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Woahhh I'm mindblown. I've seen that drama and really liked it. I didn't recognize her but now I'll need a rewatch!

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She really morphs into the character she plays.

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And I see she was in a drama with Kwak Dong Yeon. I might just have to watch this...but 72 episodes?!

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@yongsital It wasn't the best weekender (or the worst). It would be more enjoyable to watch until you know who all the characters are and then fast forward to the portions with them.

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I really enjoyed INAR! Loved the leads, they had great chemistry.

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Start Up. When anyone sees any female character development, please give me a call. DoSan and JiPyeong could be fighting over a chair and it wouldn’t make any difference. This drama is about to join my list of dramas that could have been and not because I’m on JiPyeong side.

Search. The ending was not up to the fun I had during the previous episodes. This absolute nonsense was really fun to watch, but fortunately for me and the Universe only lasted 10 episodes. It made me wonder how easy it can be having a picnic and a nice promeade in the DMZ (why did CLOY make things so complicated?). Best thing: Lee Hyun Wook. Worst thing: where do I begin?

Kairos. Only one episode this week. I suspect everyone. We know who the baddies are (uhhh, do we?) but we still don’t know their motives. As expected SSK and LSY are top notch.

Tale of the Nine Tailed. Watched the special which wasn’t really that special but at least I got my dose of distracting foxes.

Also I continue my watching of Six Flying Dragons little by little. I gave it a try to The Secret Life of my secretary and even if I found the OTP really cute, I can’t deal with all the tropes (birth secret, evil CEO, evil rich mum, Candy, face blindness, revenge… only a webtoon designer and amnesia was missing in the first four episodes). So I watched first episode of Strongest Deliveryman and really liked it. I needed an extra dose of Mr. Dimples and besides, I have Chae Soo Bin.

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So, should I quit on Search? Watched the first 2 episodes and been keeping it on hold waiting for the Beanies' verdict before proceeding

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I keep saying, I had lots of fun while watching, but it’s terribly bad. Not bad like “melty bad” but fun bad. I enjoyed it, but this is like when I couldn’t finish Good Casting because it got to my nerves... others liked it.
Not helping much, uh?
But yes, it’s not a good drama and could have been much better it it was a 3 hours special, for instance.

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You mean it's one of these bad dramas that are fun to watch if you happen to be in the right mood, right? I'm very much up to bad dramas, but I'm afraid I don't have a lot of free time and there's simply too many new shiny releases

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I gave up on Search at EP4. I thought it sucked badly, but not badly enough to a fun watch. It did not even have clams.

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@Eazal Start Up feels more and more like wasted potential.

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I've just watched episode 7 and I'm utterly disappointed (again) by all female characters.
And why 80 min episode on something that could have been told in less than 40?

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It's a lot of ho-humming to very little result.

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I am starting to agree. For the first few episodes it was my #1 favorite, now it is on the "maybe I will watch it later" list. It's like it cannot decide what kind of show it wants to be, and ended up not doing any of them very well. I wanted to see the girls (and the mother) move on to bigger and better things, but it seems to have really bogged down and got sidetracked into some kind of failed love triangle.

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I didn't like the premiere, episodes seemed to long for to begin with, but then I was quite invested in the story. About episode 8 female characters began to vanish and they could have been replaced for chairs because the result would be the same. At this point I don't know why DoSan and JiPyeong would go on a fight because I've seen nothing real about their "love" for DalMi. Just writer writing they are in love. Quite nonsense.
I bet I will be FF most of tomorrow's episode.

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Um YESSSS I fell in love with KSH (Mr. Dimples) from Strongest Deliveryman!!! That was another drama where I felt the second couple was more interesting / less bland than the main couple, but I remember loving all the characters either way. A pretty low key drama that I thought lost a little bit of steam at the end, but nevertheless a light and easy and enjoyable watch. Hope you enjoy it!!!!

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I am glad the dramas I dropped are as bad as I thought, lol. The most important part of The Secret Life of My Secretary is the fish, everything else is nonsense.

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I began FF by episode 2, and by 4 I said... wth?
And gave another drama a try, haha.

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I think you'll be pleased with Dimples' story line. And Chae Soo Bin is always good.

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That’s pretty much exactly why I liked Secret Life of My Secretary, it was great for trope bingo 😄. Am planning on checking out Strongest Deliveryman as soon as it’s on Netflix here - tomorrow!

And keep on keeping on with 6FD! You’ve probably passed me by now 😂

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I'm on episode 18, I think, didn't really pay it much attention this week.

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I think I just watched 15, I watch it on my commute but have been working from home lately so less watching. Was kind of pleased I was at home for watching Ddangsae and Bun-i get reunited because 😭😭😭

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Penthouse - I have to say I love Ju dan Tae, he’s so good at manipulating I had to laugh when cheon seo jin fell for his I love you. Despite all her toughness she changed her mind so easily lol. Ro-Na is still so annoying OMG!!! I think seok kyung’s plan will backfire on her and seok hoon will definitely fall for rona. That guy who saved rona at the end though. I still think seok hoon or JDT killed seok min ah

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You just have to laugh and roll your eyes about many of the things these people do! Then again, they're up for anything at any given time. I mean, what won't they do, right?

And that guy who saved Ro-na, he seemingly came flying out of nowhere while she was flying over the railing. Who is he?? It almost looked like was wearing a disguise.

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Not sure if he is a new character, or a recycled one in disguise. But I have to admit that was some spectacular leap to the balcony.

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Penthouse should be retitled OBSESSION: A Dark Comedy. Talk about addictiive/obsessive personalities!

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Despite - or maybe because of - Penthouse being totally over the top makjang right now it is my favorite show. Almost every character is totally annoying and you want to see them fall off the top of the penthouse. Even the "good guys" (all 1 or 2 of them?) are all over the place - bowing and scraping one minute, vowing total revenge the next. Still waiting for the body count to go up, I expect another 4-5 by shows end.

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18 Again: I binged this in a week! I haven't done that in a while - in fact, I haven't finished a nice show in a while - so it was all a really refreshing, fun experience. Definitely a good way to spend 16 hours.

Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol: I wholeheartedly enjoyed every moment of this show, until episode 14. I actually skipped through the hard bits, which I never do. Although I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation to why Joon is acting like this, I can't help but really resent him for it. Like, I'm furious. I don't think noble idiocy has elicited a reaction like this in me before?

More Than Friends: Unironically my favourite thing airing. I have to admit, I miss the mid-portion of the show, which was deliciously dramatic at all times and the character were constantly hysterically miserable, but I'm looking forward to the last week too. We seem to be gearing up for quite a memorable conclusion - this show has always had something to say about modern relationships, so I don't think it'll let me down.

Start Up: Such a perfect demonstration of why Park Hye-ryun is one of my favourite drama writers. I'm glad to see While You Were Sleeping was a blip in a bigger picture.

Samgwang Villa: My unironically other favourite thing airing - I got so obsessed with this when it started airing that it usurped my then-obsession with Do You Like Brahms! It has the usual weekender downfalls, the main one being purposely infuriating characters (there's always one very persistent girl chasing a boy she has no reason to believe is interested in her, for instance), but I still love it. I think the characters are more interesting than weekender characters are often allowed to be, and I keep shocking myself by how much I ship Chae-woon and Jae-hee, they're such a lovely main couple. So yes, I recommend this one for anyone missing a good weekender (especially if you want to be whiplashed by some good old-fashioned amnesia and birth-secret makjang).

KBS Drama Specials: Modern Girl was a wonderfully fun little fusion sageuk with a great story about emancipation, and Crevasse BLEW MY MIND with it's sensitive and suspenseful psychological drama about... no, I won't spoil it, GO WATCH IT.

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Me too, haha! People forget that it's a popular plot device for a reason!

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Yes, DDSSLLS is on my hatewatch list right now, too, after ep. 14. Usually I can tolerate a little bit of noble idiocy, maybe the size of the sidewalk cart, but this is noble idiocy on a massive, 10- floor department store with a rotating gourmet restaurant on the roof level of noble idiocy. What reason could Jun have, short of someone holding a gun to his head, for inflicting that sort of pain on another human being? Not only once, but he crushed her in every way possible, like repeatedly stomping on a butterfly. If money is the reason, or some vague notion of a "future" I will totally give up on this show. No wait, I will hatewatch it to the very end and give it the bitter, snide comments that it so richly deserves.

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I'm hoping it'll regain my favour by the end, but you're right, watching him purposely hurt Lala was essentially like watching his crush a butterfly. She's such a sweet-hearted, compassionate person, I can't understand for the life of me why he decided that breaking up with her as savagely as possible made any sense.

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Penthouse - What doesn't happen in this show? Seriously, it's so over the top!

My Dangerous Wife - I don't think a plot involving poisoning attempts has ever elicited so many laughs.

Private Lives - For reasons unknown, this drama decided to change its mind and tell a different story. Twice.

The Spies Who Loved Me - I've only watched two episodes of this. Will try to pick up more episodes this week.

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I’m not watching any of this, but I am tempted not tempted to watch Private Lives just because of your description.

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Heh! If you give it a try, see if you can tell how many times the story changes. I said twice, but it may be more! No one knows anymore. *Laughing*

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I see little clips and BTS clips all the time on IG and they totally make me want to watch it. But the reviews and comments here and elsewhere are such a mixed bag so I'm not sure what to do. It'll be released on Netflix in my region on Dec 3, but I think I'm nonetheless going to go with it over Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol which is out the same day.

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Heh! Like you, I've only watched clips here and there of Do Do So So La La Sol. As always, so many things to watch but not enough time! 😢

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I’m watching private lives and I’m just surprised as to what story the drama is trying to tell. What’s funny is that I keep watching every week without knowing why I’m watching 😃

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Same here. At this point, I've watched this far along I might as well watch the last two episodes. 😃

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Does me good to hear this because I start an episode and think, "OMG my memory is so bad, it's getting worse."

PL seems to have totally doubled back on itself so that the bad guy is now actually just a very sad and frustrated good guy who has randomly killed people. But my major source of frustration is Kim Hyo-jin as Jeong Bok-gi, the least convincing and most annoying con-woman vamp I've ever encountered.

I also ponder the opening of every episode that does a spiel about private lives under surveillance, and I wonder how it connects thematically to the episode and the whole drama.

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<b<Kairos Really good! We never know what will happen.

Live On I like Jung Da Bin but the first episode was weird. We don't really know who is the FL, but for now just a brat.

Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol My favourite couple is a couple! They're so cute together!

The Spies Who Loved Me A smart FL, it's so rare.

Start-Up I would like to know more about the other start-ups.

2 Days 1 Nigh The season 4 is fun. I love how Yeon Jung‑hoon and Kim Sun-Ho look tall and handsome but weak for the games 😂 At least, they look even more cool when they win a game :D

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Your favorite couple is the sunshine in this show right now. These young actors are so good in their roles, I hope we see more of them.

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Oh Search is over and it was one of the worse drama I watched this year... Poor actors.

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It was, wasn't it? But actually it was so bad that I had so much fun watching... does it make sense?

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There wasn't enoug of Mac to make it fun to watch for me :p

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Well if laughing at all the wrong moments is fun then yes it was fun 😂

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Startup: 7.6 I know kdramaland doesn't work like this, but what if Dal-mi dumps both the liars and tries to reel in someone else. Is Alex available? Is he a good guy?? Anyone else?

Birthcare Center: 7.5

Live On: 💤 👎 Lasted about 10 minutes. Bye.

Spies Who Loved Me: 7.3

Fly Dragon / Delayed Justice: 5.5 Do they still think a bog-standard underdog vs the powerful & corrupt story gets original or enjoyable because the good guys so much time bitching about money problems? Spare me.

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Startup: Please let Alex be a good guy! I'll die if he betrays Do-san. I read a theory that Alex is the Mathematical Olympiad second-place winner who Do-san cheated off of, and he's hiring Do-san at 2STO to get revenge on him, and I was like, "NOOOO!!"

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What a dramatic twist that will be! I don’t think he’s gonna be that twisted though.

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I do not think that Alex is the second place guy at the Math Olympiad. If he was they would have hired an actor who grew up in Korea- and he would definitely not be named "Alex". Instead this character is who his name implies: Someone born and raised in a Korean family in the US (or Canada- and in fact the actor is from Canada)- he speaks good Korean but his first language is actually English. So it is not really possible for him to have been competing in the Korean Math Olympiad and we would never have seen that scene from Do-san's past.

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I'd be mindblown if he is. However I think he just wants Dosan in 2STO as a genius coder. I think if he wants revenge he'll do it right then and there - he won't risk his company for that.

Still, I think that would be exciting. LOL

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Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol: What a week full of reversals - both hilarious and heartbreaking. I really like how we have 3 couples at various stages of the romance. More dramas should do that. Every relationship will hit its rough spot and that when we need another romance to enter its honeymoon period (Seung-gi and Ha-yeong). And we have the developing one with Suk-kyung and Chu Min-soo. I love how this drama reveals new depths to really off-to-the-side characters so that they feel like they have beating hearts within them. We also get varied interactions (Chu Min-soo and Dr. Cha as roommates!). I wouldn't mind if there was another time jump/separation since Joon still has to go to college. He is also not mature enough yet since he went to the noble idiocy route rather than be honest with Ra-ra, who would have understood because she is actually more mature and resilient than anyone assumes.

Tale of the Nine-Tailed : Caught up! The drama is really good at being fun and exciting to watch even if there are characters with frustratingly unclear motivations (Tae-ri Imoogi and Taluipa). I think part of the fun is that the characters try not to limit themselves to a "this or that" choice. They try to think outside of the box. I'm sort of excited to see Ji-ah be an Imoogi. But dread to see how the Imoogi will use Shin-joo and the Snail Bride lady.

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Who ever would have guessed that Min-soo was such an outstanding chef and caring roommate? I can't wait to see how he uses his third spoon.

I think Joon acted the way he did because his father (or mother? but probably father, since we saw him go into dad's office) - anyway, one of them made him promise to handle the situation that way in return for giving him the money to buy the building for Ra-ra. He got to protect her, but he had to promise to break up with her in a way that left no hope for the future.

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I love how Min-soo just carries those spoons with him!

I had totally forgotten about the building money! It makes sense that even if he is from a rich family and is finally old enough to sign legally binding contracts, he doesn't have millions sitting in his own bank account. I just wish he found a way to break up with her without being so cruel.

I really hope Joon's mom stands up to the dad one day and throws a white envelope with divorce papers at his face.

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I actually have a much more charitable explanation for the parent's actions, including the father's toughness with his son.

This was revealed a couple episodes ago when Joon's mom explained how precious their son was to both of them- even more so because they had him so late in life (and it took IVF at that- and then really a fair amount of luck carrying him to term). They are very elderly parents- they are actually old enough to be his grandparents.

Joon's parents know that they do not have as much time with their child as most parents have. They could both die before he reaches the age of 25. They have to get him settled in life and on the correct path forward now- they do not have the luxury of time.

In truth they have done a remarkable job- their son is smart, capable and makes very good decisions on the whole. The solid depth of his character is proven by his unselfish agreement to break up with Ra-ra in return for protecting her. It is also shown by his straightforward handling of the sexy girl who has a crush on him.

Why would Joon's mom want to divorce his dad? He knew all about his son going missing and said nothing- he trusted her, did not berate her or otherwise engage in the customary histrionics that we would normally see in a K-drama. Mom's behavior was not driven by fear but shame- how could she admit to him that she had lost their son? When dad originally reacted to his son's reaction to the death of his friend that was bad- but came straight out of the desperation that he feels because of his age. His words were, after all, 'you cannot let this get you off track'.

What I hope happens is that his parents will take a new look at Joon soon and realize that they have succeeded and can now relax a bit: Their son has become a Mensch (to borrow a wonderful Yiddish term) . He can be trusted to live a good and successful life from this time forward.

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Your explanation does seem to fall more in line with the spirit of the drama where with the exception of the murdery stalker, everyone is nicer, more warm, and more generous than they first appear. I know Joon's dad will eventually come around since this is the type of drama where parents will come around to support the happiness of their children, but for now, he stays on my poop list.

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To me, this episode showed how Jun is still a child; reliant upon his parents and shying away from the truth. I also feel that stealing the teacup and buying rings without any input from Ra-Ra are also unfortunate signs that the boy who had shown such flashes of maturity earlier is really still just a boy.

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We have kdrama characters in their 30s doing the same sort of thing, so maybe he truly thought that was the mature and manly decision. He's lucky he's the male lead. If he was a second male lead, you know Ra-ra will fall in love with someone else. He should have watched Another Oh Hae Young.

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Discovering that Chu Min-soo is not really a thug but instead a tough looking teddy bear has been a delight.

We had a short time skip in DDSSLLS but now we get a long one because that last scene we saw is Jun going off to Stanford. I agree that he should have been honest with Ra-ra about what is really going on instead of breaking her heart.

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MY DANGEROUS WIFE (Ep14): My brain did actually predict the mistress twist which is surprising since the show continues to repeatedly grind the story into sausage mush. It has come to the point where no character has any social redeeming quality.
TALE OF THE NINE TAILS: Being on hold since that big story reveal is torture.
Variety:
HOW DO YOU PLAY? The end of the Refund Sisters arc was bittersweet and heartwarming. I hope the women continue their strong friendship.
ReWatch:
CHIEF KIM (Good Manager): Still enjoyable but not with the same impact as when viewed the first time. Just finished the scene with the revival plan double cross.

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OMG. Your MDY comments both this week and last week are so good.

Just sending some comment love from one grey text to another. I would so watch this drama with you, it would be a hoot.

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DoDoSolSolLaLaSol: i actually hate that the writer chooses the noble idiocy route to end the whole plot (joon with rara, joon with his parents). i dont think this noble idiocy plot actually match with Joon's character. really dissapointed.

Kairos: the wife is an imoogi in disguise yikes.

Welcome to Waikiki 2: i need Kim Seonho right now but i dont wanna see him being second lead so here i am, rewatching waikiki 2. i dont remember laughing this much when i watched this but i really laugh a lot watching it second time. totally recommended if you love Seonho, and wanna watch something light, funny and cute.

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Imoogi in another disguise 😄

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I started Kairos yesterday and I managed to watch first two episodes. It is really good. The plot similar to Signal. Great interpretation from all actors, I recommend it!

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1. Start up: Ep 9-11. I was just getting happy about all the delicious character development of Do San and even Dal Mi we were getting. I cried a lot in ep 8-9 and in 10 for everyone including JP. Now I am just worried. Sigh now that we know DS is the one DM wants what's with the time skip. Noble idiocy and what not. I don't even know what I am ranting. Also I spent too much time on start up discourse.

2. Tail of the nine tailed: Ep 11-12. Okay both the episodes were good. The Imoogi was totally scary. Lol Yeon's meeting with Ji Ah's parents lol. 'What do you do?' 'Nothing' lol. Anyway I am kind of confused about the two Imoogis.

3. Kairos: Ep 4-5 Its very good. Though I got confused one time. Also I like Ahn Bo Hyun's performance here but I keep on calling him Geun Won lol.

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I got my heart completely broken too in ep.11. Will comment more in the recap as I don’t want to spoil it all here.

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9 Tailed Foxie Family: still mid-episode 12. Loved everything Lee Rang about episode 11 - Lee Rang's smirks, happy smiles and interactions with his Puppy Family. I was even proud of Suri's murderous skills, so cute! The twist was also well delivered and the Imoogi is fittingly creepy. That finger kiss, ugh!🤢

Read that things take a left turn on ep 12, so I'm kind of dragging my feet, waiting for this week's episodes to come out for the drama to find its way again. Also, hope they keep on bringing supernatural creatures, because the ones in earlier episodes were super entertaining.

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Besides the lovely Foxes, not watching any airing dramas. Started watching Matrimonial Chaos and am loving it. Characters feel so real, and their conversations are so deep and out of the usual drama-box... it feels real. And there are lots of funny beats, and the singing scenes to lift the mood (but Viki muting all the singing is getting me really crabby - I want to hear their voices!)
Hope drama stays engaging in it's second half. Unfortunately, Wee Hajoon's cute lovelorn musician seems to have taken his leave. Also, I'm vigorously hating Soon Seokkon's two-timing Janghyun. Already saw why he's like that, but, no... still feel like punching his pretty, pretty face. Dude, if you can't commit to monogamy, don't be a jerk - just find someone who's into open relationships!

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Next week's creepy releases: Uncanny Counter and Awaken, yay!

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I'm so looking for both.
Awaken is on Viki, but Uncanny Counter on Netflix (I'll have to go illegal to live watch, meh).

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I might join you on the wrong side of the (copyright) law 🤣

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You little rebel!

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After a 3 year long wait and agonizing over "will they ever air it? They will, they won't, they will, they won't" changes by the censors, more episodes, less episodes, finally:
THE WOLF aired. I'm going to like it, whether I like it or not.

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Apparently it was yet another show that got caught up in the massive CCP censorship black hole. https://www.facebook.com/xiaozhansean/posts/apparently-the-wolf-requested-a-change-on-the-number-of-episodes-on-chinese-stat/189642722518996/

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Thanks, I've been looking for this link for forever!

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THIS... I didnt wait as long as you... But truly I will like it whether I like it or not... Now let go on twitter I see the joy...

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No worries now - it's really good, and Xiao Zhan's role is so fun. (Is he the Han Solo of this drama??)
The only thing that bothers me a bit is whoever is doing the voice acting for Darren Wang - it just doesn't seem to fit (but I'll get used to it).

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Once it got past its initial obligatory 'annoying male love interest' trope, 'More than Friends' has settled into being an excellently written series. Tackling uncomfortable topics that rarely get touched, like the effect of childhood poverty trauma on adult mating choices.

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START-UP is very intelligently written, well acted and simply well done. We can love all the characters except for Stepdad and Stepbrother. This is a great show that has a real impact on the viewers- how else to explain over 350 comments being posted in four days on its open thread (last week over 400). I know that the writer is very successful but this time seems to have set a higher standard for this show. Stroopwafel is right about the relative underdevelopment of In-jae’s character but I suspect that this is because she is the only truly new character among the four main leads- and yet I would point out that most of the comments actually see her in a positive light. Even as we wish with Selena for Do-sum and Ji-pyeong to develop their budding friendship- now being tested by rivalry over Dal-mi (again an element straight from Rostand’s play) we also want the sisters to find their way back to each other while teaching evil stepdad a serious lesson. In-jae may not be the target of revenge per se but she has put herself in some danger with her project and already we have seen Dal-mi shielding her with her body.

DO DO SOL SOL LA LA SOL continues to be my happy pill. Last week’s shock ending was a head fake. Oher head fakes revealed- Secretary did not steal the company from Ra-ra’s dad- it really did go bankrupt. Second, Dr. Cha is not terminally ill- he just takes a lot of vitamins. But then we ended with what has to be another head fake- Jun breaking up with Ra-ra. I already have this one figured out (but will not reveal because- no spoilers) and I also know why and how it happened.

I am still loving THE SPIES WHO LOVED ME.

My wife finished THREE LIVES, THREE WORLDS: THE PILLOW BOOK. Now she is watching SCARLET HEART. These period costume dramas have inspired my entire family to watch a Great Courses history course on China. We are now up to the later Han dynasty. Lots more to come but my wife tells me she now understands some things that she see in the C-dramas that she did not really get before.

The weekender HOMEMADE LOVE STORY has now picked up. I am also still re-watching the classic SMILE YOU as well

TALE OF THE NINE-TAILED has been thrilling- but aired no new episodes this week. This is frustrating. No foxes? asked my wife. She was very disappointed.

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So cool that your wife and you got interested in History through drama! Sounds like fun watching those lectures together, lucky you for sharing your hobbies! 😊

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A threadbare week for me when it comes to my drama watching.

Goblin: finished, heart broken and then stitched back together. Since I anyway started watching this (finally) sank happily into the bromance, and am super impressed by the depth of feeling and pathos in the Sunny/Grim Reaper pairing. The chemistry between YIN and LDW is incredible. I swear you can feel their souls actually tearing when she walks away on that bridge.

Search: still in the midst of wrapping this one up, but it's been fun. Didn't take much from me to watch, and I really appreciate that in a drama these days.

Tale of the Nine-Tailed: though technically no new episodes this week, and I didn't watch the special, I did re-watch some of the earlier bits to see if there were any clues I missed. Not sure if I discovered anything new, but, gosh, those foxes are pretty.

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I've been catching up on dramas I missed when they were airing. Now I'm watching Missing--The Other Side. What a different way to tell a mystery. I'm on Episode 7, and so far, every episode has been engrossing. I highly recommend it if you like OCN dramas.

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You’ll love this little gem to the end.
Even with all the tropes, It gets to your heart.

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A MAN IN A VEIL: Yes, terrible ratings, nobody's watching it but me. It's so nostalgic for my favorite American soaps that are long gone. Halfway thru it's actually getting better, even with all the tropey cliches. But is it a daytime makjang/soap? Because I don't see it listed in the on air evening dramas or weekend dramas.

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I actually like this show. It might be just because other than Wednesday and Thursday there’s not a lot on right now. I’ve only watched a few dailies, but this one seems to be better written and moving much faster than the other ones I’ve seen. It seems more like a weekend revenge melodrama, even though the episodes are only a half hour.

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Those daily shows are a genre unto themselves - usually loaded with makjang, dozens of the usual cliches, and around 7 birth secrets. Some can be a bit fun to watch if you do a LOT of fast forwarding.

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Search - The first two episodes were the creepiest. The whole night mode atmosphere was very suspenseful. The drama stopped being scary and went towards other genres. The last two episodes were thrilling again due to the action. Overall, I wasn't too invested in the characters and the 10 episode watch was just quick and easy. It may have been better if it remained a monster drama through and through. I was crushed about Lee Hyun Wook's character in the finale even though it was really typical. I'mma need to see him in a new role where he gets a happy ending~

Penthouse - I was curious so I watched the premiere week and it was full of awful people, bullying, and violence that I almost dropped it. But it certainly wasn't dull and distracted me from real life at the time. So I'm still watching it. Only decent person is Su Ryun. I don't even like the poor characters striving to beat the chaebols. I thought Su Ryun was weak in the beginning, but she has showed her smarts after the first week.

Also watching (and behind on) Tale of the Nine Tailed and Fly Dragon.

You would think I would have caught up on more dramas after all these episode delays this week, but my drama watching has slowed down. Nothing really grabbing me fully.

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I’ll join you in wishing LHY’s characters getting a happy ending.

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Finished Airing

BORN AGAIN: I am confused about what’s going on. But that could be blamed on not being very interested in this drama after the mostly bad reviews I’ve ready. (And it’s been months since I watched the last episode.). All I can really says is this: Jang Ki Yong is doing a great playing this creepy character. Oh, and the drama doesn’t make any sense to me. (ep. 3)

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MELODRAMATIC ME: Still the best. Enjoying this an episode a week. Dare not hasten more, lest it ends! I don't want it to end. Ever!

HOSPITAL PLAYLIST: The 1,5 h episodes are killing me but it's an easy watch. Jo Jung Suk is killing it, without him I think I'd find Ik-jun more annoying in his perfection. That train scene in episode 10 was hilarious.😂😂😂😂😂

SEARCH: I tried half an episode of this and then thankfully was interrupted by my children. I'm way too much of a scaredy cat to watch this, dropping like a hot potato.

LOVE IS SWEET: I'm disappointed how the show treated the second lead and it was terribly inconsistent. The main story took place between episodes 20-31, the rest felt like filler. BUT! It was really the sweetest fillers I've seen for some time, also I don't think I've ever seen a drama couple so intimate with each other.

MYSTIC POP-UP BAR: My feelings for this drama are kind of lukewarm, somehow I can tolerate challange-of-the-day in loooong shows like Buffy and Sailor Moon but apparently not in 16-episode ones. I'm a bit fascintated with the villain though and might hold up singlehandedly for him. He's evil-evil. And petty. And really handsome. Good combo.

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I found Search to be about as scary as Hello Kitty. Mostly it was just really really bad, but not bad enough to be good.

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Apparently there's no rhyme or reason or logic to what I like. I liked Search. And I was surprised I liked the female soldier and all the females on the show. And the actors. It he