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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

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Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol: I am going to pretend that this drama ended right after the reveal that Secretary Moon was a budding drama star. I just–WHY? Joon getting deathly ill felt a little pointless, but it was the “twist” in the last episode that totally lost me. There was no reason for Joon’s mom to lie to Lala. It all felt so manipulative and unsatisfying. I went from loving Do Do Sol Sol to feeling bitter and hating the last couple of episodes. What a waste of a good drama–and my precious drama-watching time.

The Call: What a supremely creepy and thrilling movie. The story was so well told and the performances from Jeon Jong-seo and Park Shin-hye were so strong that I lost myself in the film. One downside of that was feeling anxious every few minutes about Park Shin-hye’s fate, but the anxiety was well worth it.

 

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Currently weecapping: Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol, Start-Up

Tale of the Nine Tailed: Trying to get back into this one — I paused it after that super boring kiss in Episode 5/6 haha. But I was glad when I picked it back up, even though I’m super behind. I really do like the quick, creepy pace, along with the dynamic between the leads. Now that it’s almost done with its run I think it’s pretty safe to marathon through this one. More. Kim. Bum.

 

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Currently Recapping: Tale of the Nine Tailed

Birthcare Center: It might’ve been a little bumpy at times with its off-kilter tone, but this was a refreshingly original little drama. I loved the frank discussions of women’s bodies and motherhood, and I really liked the acknowledgment of the sad reality that society tends to dismiss women once they become mothers. It’s all too common for women to be under-appreciated, isolated, and seen as undesirable after having a baby. As all the women at the center showed, they are more than just moms – they are whole people with unique desires, goals, and perspectives who should be appreciated and respected. I hope we get more dramas that focus on these types of often unexplored topics and points of view.

Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol: WHAT. I’m so frustrated I can’t even … What kind of nonsense was that?! It felt like they were just doing things for dramatic reveals without any regard for whether it made sense. Joon’s decisions made me so freaking mad, and he had the nerve to laugh like Lala’s anger and tears over his abhorrently selfish (and bizarre) behavior were cute?! That is not the sweet Joon from earlier in the series. I’m so confused as to what the writer was going for with his character. I loved the first weeks of this drama, but it devolved from a cute, fluffy rom-com into a ridiculous mess for no good reason.

 
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I feel so abused by the writer of DoDo Sol that I'm ready for a break from dramaland. The neighborhood at Eun-po deserved better and so did we.

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I’m really glad I stopped watching, but I’ve never seen such a strong reaction from all beanies watching, totally outraged and frustrated. I could never imagine something like that (I read weecaps and even FF last episode). I’m speechless and if I had been watching I would feel utterly betrayed. Not even Melty or Where the stars land were this terrible ending.

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When a drama is just bad, then you don't have expectations. But when a drama creates a world of loveable characters, the you give the writer your trust. "I'm going to go where you are taking me because I have fallen for this world." That's why Beanies are outraged. It was a wonderful world and we trusted, and the writer abused that trust. She betrayed the characters and then laughed at us in the last 60 seconds.

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I was thinking the same. Melting me softly had been honestly terrible since the first minutes (and I still don't know why I kept watching), while Do do seemed so cute from what I read on the fan wall, that I was eagerly waiting for Netflix to upload it.

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I like how you described what this writer did. I agree. May the drama gods take full note of this crime.

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I’m also glad I stopped watching, it seems such a left field and unnecessary ending.

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I still do not know why I finished WHERE THE STARS LAND. Fortunately I was able to drop MELTY after the first ten minutes- and regard that as a serious win.

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We are two in wondering why I finished Where the stars land.
But I watched Melty to the end. I guess it was so bad that I actually enjoyed it. Call me nuts.

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You’re not alone on this one.
And also Melty will be happy wherever it is😅

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Worst ive seen on here is reaction to Big's ending in 2012, over 800 majority pissed or disappointed comments - https://www.dramabeans.com/2012/07/big-episode-16-final/

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It's definitely injustice to the Eunpo folks and woori Ra-ra.

And I should have known better because Shopping King lost me past midway that I dropped it and never returned - but Do Do was so good until the final stretch.

Why making a reasonable ending is so hard? Can some guru deliver a master class on 'how to chart your ending' to kdrama writers? The only perfect ending is City Hall and I can't see why that formula be replicated elsewhere.

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Start Up. I’m bored and surviving this by FF. The show has definitely joined the category of the drama that could have been but wasn’t. A waste of talented actors and a good story.

Kairos. This is such a rollercoaster! We’ve prevented DaBin’s abduction, and we are back in square one, or aren’t we?

Tale of the Nine Tailed. I love evil JiA, and even evil Terry, now that he has found his way into evilness. Even so, episode 14 left me with a sad feeling. I think my favourite distracting psycho cute fox will not make it to the end of the show. My favourite distracting noble sassy fox is also bothering me. He might not be as smart as he thinks.

I also continue watching Six Flying Dragons, and even if it can be really hard to go through all the intrigues and politics and people staring to each other suspiciously, I’m loving it; and Strongest Deliveryman which has become my happy pill, such a nice show to watch, every character is adorbs, it is the kind of drama you don’t roll you eyes when you see a trope after another.

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Strongest Deliveryman was very sweet. Just looking at the poster on Netflix makes me happy.

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I’m on episode 11 and I think I will finish it by Sunday. I’m just happy watching these guys 😊

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Strongest Deliveryman was nice and deserves more love. It managed to stay consistent and good till the end.

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They're really going hard on the foreshadowing for Rang, aren't they? Anyways, dramagods wouldn't dare to make us fall so hard for uri bratty Psycho 🦊 and then kill him off, would they? (*shudders at Dodo's ending... Dramagods are total nutjobs)

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😫😫😫

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He might not be as smart as he thinks.

Yes, bingo. Also, The whole Plan of the Flea Market Sword was cool and all but didn't have same the "Oh no, he didn't!!" punch that he pulled on the evil Green Juice Lady in episode 9 did. I hope the show doesn't rely on that crutch too much.

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The “I’m the smartest guy around” thing has been played too many times by now. I agree with you writer should be wiser than Yeon.

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I fear that they might feel the need to have some big deaths on the show (that was surprisingly low on them so far) in the last 2 episodes just for shock value. The tease is that someone will die (outside of Imugi as the forgone conclusion duh) but question is who. Foreshadowing is made about several characters who either pledged to do something or just feel that their time is coming. Unfortunately, Ji Ah is gonna leave even though she's the worst character and not worth all the fuss.

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Live not leave lol typo

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Totally agree on Start Up. Not sure what happened, but for me it went from the "I can't wait" stage to "maybe I will watch it next week". What started as a good story got bogged down in cliches and over used tropes and kdrama's 23,984th love triangle.

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add one more zero to that number

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"the drama that could have been but wasn’t" ----- Perfect description for START UP. Agree 100%. So many disappointments on this one. They've lost me in the middle of this drama. I could rant all day but it'll just be a waste of my time. I've expected too much, they didn't deliver.

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CRICKET - Yes yes yes

Cricket - live spectators - is so good to see

New Zealand vs. West Indies T-20

It was a pretty good match to start the season and bring back the cricket to the audience. Both teams were in the match for most part. Really +ve watch this match was.

Australia vs. India - It was an ok ok match. More fund was in live match discussion and making jokes, fun and memes at reddit that match itself.

Overall, I'm so happy to see Cricket back and it comes from a human who hasn't played played or participated in any form of cricket for most part of his life.

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Japan -

Hashtag - 6/10 - It looked more like some collage project of upcoming directors than actual show. Its start is exactly what a any casual viewer think of as an idea that can feel different. Ok. timepass. lacks logic.

Shanai Marriage Honey - 4/10 shoujo trash adult format. Wife surely is quite crafty and these schemes adds to all the cringe.
Lame show all in all. It won't even attract horny teenagers.

Marry Me - 4/10 another lame lame shoujo trash.

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Korea - not a single one of 2020 shows in my top 10 list of 2020.

barterstall - 3/10 utter garbage and it does suit its audience.

Orphan Family - 4/10 where writer gonna stop - week after week no progress in the whatever little story this show has.

Korean audience is enjoying rich thugs showing middle finger to each other and facing their own karma(though i don't believe in this nonsense)

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CHINA -

The Centimetre of Love - 7 out of 10. Beautiful name, annoying characters. Nice Male and Female main characters, equally horrible family members aka side characters. I completely disagree with @screentime on writer. You gave a bit too much respect to this scam of a writer. Giddily cheery-picking set of social attitudes just so to run an agenda and make a narrative to confirm the audiences prejudices and that too in such vulgar, obese and cartoonist way deserves no acknowledgement. These cheap tricks gimmicks might win writers some points but i don't see any merit in them.

I'm really invested in the show and enjoying it. Name is beautiful but progress of couple is fast. yup. And mother who certainly has a few mental disorders suddenly toned down and a young captain used as jealousy tool showed the depth of writing.

I'm enjoying this family drama and want it to be more family-romance drama.

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That NZ-WI T-20....my friend was like “I give up, I’m going to bed and hopefully they can surprise me in the morning with a win.” And they did! Was a pity about the rain interruptions though.

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Rain is the beautiful zen of test cricket. In the shorter versions not so much. Once you get into retrospective maths to determine results...ARRRGH.

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Birthcare Center: An underrated gem. I found all of the moms and the issues they were facing interesting. Eun Jung had good scenes with Happy Man and her husband in the final episodes. My own mom was always saying "I'm fine" and "It's fine." Makes me want to ask her if she was really fine or just pretending to be and we were just as clueless as Eun Jung's husband.

Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol: What the bleep kind of ending was that. Free Ra-ra. She deserves better. Jun's Eunpo friends all deserve better. We deserve better. It's disturbing that the writer considered this an acceptable ending much less a romantic one. But really, the problem started when she thought it was a good idea to make Jun a minor. I liked Shopping King Louis and Terius but something went really wrong here.

Kairos: Til now I had called this drama predictable but well-executed. It’s still well-executed but this week blew my mind with all of the twists. It's only Episode 8 and so much has happened and unhappened.

Start-Up: Yeah ... I don't even want to talk about or read about this one.

My Dangerous Wife: I didn't expect the ending to be so happy. The main couple's should have been a bit more twisted though I liked the insurance payoff twist. There was no need to give the mistress a happy ending. I'd rather have seen her find a new couple to fixate on. I still don't understand N31.

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Your description of Kairos is really accurate: lots of things happened and unhappened 😶

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LalaLand - What?????
(I liked many of the characters though ...and wish the show did them justice)

Shanai Marriage Honey - Japanese shojo manga in its fullest... though I'm not sure if in its best. I may drop it. Soon.

Chinese live action of Hikaru no Go - we started this with my son as Cross Fire was a bit too serious for him. First episode was funny and we both enjoyed the interactions between our Hero Boy and Ancient Go Master 🙂

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OMG! Live action of Hikaru no Go! I LOVE Hikaru no Go! Thank you for this valuable piece of information.😘

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The Package is a lovely little drama, light yet really heartwarming. I really like how the characters story slowly unfolded as the episodes went by, I feel as if I've just been on a tour of France with them. And the locations in France were gorgeous.
Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol is a case study on how an ending can really make or break a drama.

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The Package was a gem, really warm and funny.

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I love The Package! Well, at least your week wasn't totally awful!

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I also loved THE PACKAGE.

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DO DO’s ‘concluding’ episode wasn’t even a crash landing. I don’t know how to describe it.
When things quiet down it would be really interesting if one the beanies or a DB Minion would post a comparison and analysis of DO DO to BRAHMS.
I watched both of them to their conclusions. I will now refer to myself as a DO DO “Survivor”. Unlike DO DO one thing the BRAHMS’ writer was able to do was present a satisfactory ending.

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I loved The Package too. It was a low key drama but worth the watch. It’s like a romantic travel film.

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Intrigued about Kairos, thanks to the buzz here and on the Beaniewall. @katakwasabi, SSR-Best-Promoter's Best Promoter is doing a terrific job at luring Beanies one after the one into Kairo's world, and the good comments are pilling up 😉

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You should give it a try. It’s really fun and intriguing. I have the feeling I’ve watched the whole drama by episode 8 but hey, it continues... so what new surprises are we having? So many answers to unveil: we know who the baddies are (well, at least the obvious ones), we know who our heroes are (do they?) and yet the question is: why everything is happening?

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Yes, I'm going to give it a try! (but it isn't legally available in our region, is it?)

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It isn’t. I’m watching in Dramac00l.
I try to keep my illegal watching just to one show a week, although I will be breaking that rule with The Uncanny counters 🙄

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"legally"
To steal a line from Terry Pratchett
"Three kinds of people laugh at the law, those who break it, those who make it, and those who have good security software and watch kdramas"

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The original Pratchett line is one of the best / most enlightening lines I've ever read.
Not gonna tell you all which book it was in because I hope you will read them all until you find it :)

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Thank you for giving us a little Terry Pratchett who never ceases to bring joy into our lives. May he be blessed in the great hereafter.

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😆 omo! Come join us watch Kairos!

Ep 1-8 are amazing. I hope it remains intriguing and exciting to watch. Hoping the 2nd half will be as good or better. I'm treating ep1-8 as season 1 because they were so good. If anything happens later on, I still got an amazing 1st half. Hahaha

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1. Start up: Ep 12. I am actually loving it. I read up a lot of analysis on this which made me appreciate it a lot. I dread the time jump though. I am very saddened and disturbed by the demonization of Do San. Many have said they recognise nuerodivergent traits in him, know people with said traits, can relate to him, but those traits being called manipulative and toxic? I cannot. Even the comment from Joo Hyuk saying DS is not 'normal' is taken as 'see we told you he's manipulative, bad' Like...??? That's not what was meant. Also it really seems like nobody actually cares about DM's choice.

2. My dangerous wife: Completely crazy, silly, and thrilling. The last episode I just laughed and laughed. After all that the leads end up together? Choi Won Young has been playing a completely different character all three dramas I saw him in and damn he's good.

3. Kairos: 6-8. Wow the recent episodes impressed me. Now that the timeline is erased what? Did I mention I love the title cards and the transitions? Cause yeah.

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I'm very curious to start My Dangerous Wife, but I really didn't like Gone Girl. Is it basically that? Should I skip it? I was going to watch it for Choi Won-young.

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Hmm never read/watched gone girl.

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I read that book when I was 14 and it made me really question marriage and love in general

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It was definitely a book of disfunction. I didn't see the movie; reading the book was unsettling enough.

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My Dangerous Wife is a remake of a Japanese drama, which shared only one aspect of Gone Girl. I had to take a break midway because just about everyone in it seemed to be a terrible person. After resetting, I had a better appreciation for the characters. I was able to laugh at their shenanigans and genuinely appreciate their happy endings. Choi Won-young is superb.

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Thanks for this! Definitely weighing the scale towards me watching it, in that case!

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Thank you gods for making it so I dropped Do do sol sol...in ep 4

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MY DANGEROUS WIFE: (Finale) Well, it ended. For all the chaos in the first 15 episodes, it ends with a whimper. The final N31 twist was glossed over instead of making a climatic finish. If the show was a commentary on marriage, its take is strange. Apparently, for a couple to stay together the wife has to be psychotic; dangerous enough that fear is the bond between two people. The icing on the cake is criminal co-conspiracy. The acting was well done, but for spousal revenge dramas this one fell short.

BIRTHCARE CENTER: (Episode 2) I can handle dark comedies on serious subjects, but I find it hard to get this one. This short show seems to want to veer off a cliff and I really don’t want to go down that path. The hard first speed bump I cannot get over is that the new mothers are hardly around their newborns (which is the most precious bonding time between parent and child).

Movies: Personal Holiday film fest:
THE WIND RISES: The 2013 Japanese anime-drama written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki was reviewed as one of his best works (it was supposed to be his last one). It embraces his passion for aviation, his deep feelings growing up in Japan during World War II, and deep storytelling (this work is based on historical figures). He weaves his dreamlike animation style with a solid dramatic story. Highly recommend the movie.

WEATHERING WITH YOU: The 2019 Japanese romantic fantasy film written and directed by the new anime master, Makoto Shinkai. His detail drawings of rain and water cannot be beat. This film is one of his better story plots even though the ending falls back to his standard resolution of his previous fantasy works. This film was released in the USA in early January, which makes it eligible for an Academy Award (even for Best Picture), which is possible considering so few studio films were released this year. Also, highly recommend this movie.

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TAIL OF THE NINE TAILS: (Ep 14) I can see where the ending is going. At least the characters are talking about their foreboding noble idiocies. I still don't get why the underworld Administrator can change Ji-A's date of death on her own personal whim but allows the Imoogi to create a pandemic without her stopping him/it. From the tone of the show, I do not expect a universal happy ending.

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I cannot accept that Lee Rang death foreshadowing is going to be real. That would be a colossal waste of the best character arc on the show. And for what? Ji Ah. More like Ji Ugh.

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Kairos This drama is so unpredictable.

Live On The FL was more a brat in the 2nd episode... Not sure if the I will continue it.

Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol I never was invested in the main couple so the disapointing end didn't bother me so much. I was happy with HY and SG who started a business together, dated, married and had an adorable baby before joigning the best club of Eunpo.

Tale of the Nine Tailed I'm behind... the break disconnected me from the story.

The Spies Who Loved Me The story is pretty interesting and the different relationships pretty mature.

The Uncanny Counter I'm curious about it.

Start-Up I think a time jump was a good idea, Samsan Tech's members needed to grow up. I'm happy for Kim Sun Ho who won an award for this role :)

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I'm watching Spy mainly for the relationships.

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And you are right, if we take our Youngsters as the main couple
and focus on their friends-to-lovers story then it wasn't bad 🙂
(I also loved our Private Investigator Chef 🙂)

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START UP is based upon a play which has a fifteen year time jump. I am glad that the writer shortened it. In any case we are at that point where the story has to diverge massively from the source material. Not surprisingly we are now seeing more of In-jae who is the totally new main character.

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Finally someone mentioned The Spies Who Loved Me! I never would have guessed, but this is my favorite drama right now: a good mix of spy story and relationship reveals, adults behaving like adults, some nice twists, and an overall stylish look. Plus Ah-Reum is one of the smartest and gutsiest heroines this year. Really, the only reason I can see for its lack of popularity is it is located out in Siberia as far as streaming sites.

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It’s a good show that many people are watching but just don’t wanna rave about or busy with other dramas, me included😎

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It is a good show but, as you said, the streaming site makes it difficult because I do not have a wifi enabled TV and my TVs are too far from my computer to do the set up a TV as a monitor thing.

It would be nice if IQIYI could do a deal with Roku.

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I saw reports online that tvN’s upcoming JIRISAN will only be available outside South Korea on the streaming website iQIYI just like BACK STREET ROOKIE and DINNER MATE. That will leave me out.

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9 Tailed: I'm amazed at how much I'm enjoying this drama, because I wasn't feeling the teasers at all and the cast left me neutral. But then, until now, it's been such a consistently enjoyable ride... bring on all the camp, all the creepy, and all the cute Foxies!

Besides that, been watching Matrimonial Chaos, which is beautifully written and acted, but I'm reaching the drama's last 4 hours, and am becoming sceptical drama still has enough fuel to reach the end in a high note.
Also started watching Nokdu Flower. So much pretty! And what a cast! After watching Han Yeri in My Unfamiliar Family, what a delight seeing her in this... and she's so pretty! It's been so long since I last watched a non-fusion sageuk, that I'd forgotten how much I love them 💚💚💚

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I am on ep 13 now of Matrimonial Chaos and I love everything about it. The characters are all flawed yet so real, really amazing writing.

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Enjoy NOKDU FLOWER which was one of my favorite dramas of 2019. It has a great cast.

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Feeling frustrated over Start-Up?

Birthcare Center (Episode 7-8) - Mood: A
If I had to nitpick really hard: 1) I can understand the director not wanting to confront Sprout’s mom but isn’t a live feed of Glue Stick a line crossed too far when it isn’t her baby? 2) Roo Da’s dad was an arc that was rushed into the story in the finale for drama (Woo Seok’s dad issues was also very random). 3) Eun Jung’s reconciliation with her husband was questionable since I’m sure one conversation doesn’t undo the lack of trust she had for ages?

But enough with the bad stuff, cause there was a lot to enjoy in the finale: 1) Do Yoon going from mentored to mentor as a father, 2) Happy Man and Eun Jung’s Liszt twist: I was bamboozled because I had believed up to that point he really saw her as a friend he’s grateful towards! 3) Hyun Jin’s imagination was peak comedy: Yoon Park’s idol makeup really made me laugh!

It is to the show’s credit that they had a fresh story to tell and did not blunder on that innovation by developing the plot and characters really well. Despite not being a mother myself, I didn’t find it difficult understanding the attitudes of the moms in the story and enjoyed their growth in the center. The drama is easily for me a contender for best 2020 drama!

Live On (Episode 2) - Mood: D
By drama logic, does this week’s cliffhanger tell us that So Hyun isn’t the mysterious figure exposing Ho Rang? Though to be honest, I don’t really care for any of the main characters so far. Yes, our leads have dysfunctional families, hence cold personalities. Yes, the couple’s squabbles are really lame and the dodgeball scene was cringe. Yes, Yoo Shin is an enigma with his excessively outgoing personality which might be a setup for a possible twist where he’s the mysterious figure but does the actor have the acting range required despite zero prior experience? Seems like that’s too big a risk.

Start-Up (Episode 11-12) - Mood: D+
It’s the third-quarter phase of the drama and frustratingly we were served with the Noble Idiocy + Forced Separation + Time Skip triple trope tragedy as the culmination of several plot devices including the letters, the revenge and Alex. I’m also disappointed to see Sa Ha become a couple with Chul San: are we supposed to assume him holding her hand had such an effect? In Jae finally got some character growth in her finding some existential reason and being honest about the swing only to be overshadowed by Do San’s reconciliation with his dad and Sandbox CEO’s comfort talk for Dal Mi.

Also watching:
The Spies Who Loved Me (Episode 9-10) - Mood: C-, It was strangely fun seeing the team up but I don’t know.
Tale of the Nine Tailed (Episode 13-14) - Mood: D, The finale will be predictable but I’ll prepare for the worst.
Private Lives (Episode 15-16) - Mood: D-, Awkward villain takedown, time skip and...

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And.....nonsense
We deserve a medal each for finishing private lives. Seohyun character’s existence is disappointing.

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Watching:
Startup
2D1N Season 4
Plan on watching: Two Cops ( I dropped it before because of the FL but will retry because of JJS and KSH).
( Guess why 😁)

Other To Watch:
The Call ( Read many good reviews)
The Uncanny Counter

Not really feeling other ongoing KDramas.. But will check out recommendations here...

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I observe a familiar trend here. Be safe as you venture into 'Kim Sun Ho' only land...beware of free-falling in a KSH rabbit hole~ call us if you need help~~ ahahaha

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Have you watched Strongest Deliveryman? (I feel like I'm encouraging the journey down the KSH rabbit hole.)

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Actually I tried but stopped for a while... I didn't really care for the leads.. But I did binge-watch Catch the Ghost 😁

I remember him from Good Manager, I think at that time I just thought he was too cute for his role 😂.

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I saw him there too, but he was really a scene stealer in Strongest Deliveryman. I remember a group of Beanies who thought they should've made the story about the second leads instead.

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Chaebol couple were amazing. His character in Strongest Deliveryman wouldn't have work much without his chaebol partnee Go Won Hee. Runaway chaebol girl Go Won Hee was hilarious and it made his evil/prickly character fun too. I watched the show for them 😆

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Thanks, will try it again :)

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I'm guessing you've watched "You Drive Me Crazy", for KSH, of course....

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Yes, searched for it after it was mentioned in 2d1n 😂

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So, looking to add one more bean for 2020: what to watch? Haven't seen "It's OK...", "In the Ring", "Do You Like Brahms" and others. Suggestions for one more show? Just finishing "Unfamiliar Family" so a change of pace might be nice. Thanks, all.

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Into the Ring! To me this was a very enjoyable, fast paced, warm and memorable watch from start till finish.

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Into the Ring! Into the Ring! Into the Ring!!!!!!!

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Yes! I need to finish Into the Ring. I stopped at Ep. 8 and haven't picked it back up.

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Stopped at 2 and I haven’t picked it back up. I have no idea why that is and it’s totally not the drama’s fault.

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I hear ya. My watch list at mydramalist is littered with high-quality shows I can't quite start let alone finish. These are shows I'd normally gobble up but ... sometimes I just need junk food. Especially in These Times. 😉

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As a change of pace from MY UNFAMILIAR FAMILY it would be Tough to beat into the ring.

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I think that ‘To watch’ list on MDL is jinxed 😆
Every show added to it ends up spending years untouched.

I totally understand you😅

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Into the ring!!!

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I agree with @marylou ! Into the Ring is really good until the end. I liked It's OK and Do You Like Brahms but they had some weaknesses near the end.

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I loved It's Okay... and highly recommend it. I have only watched a bit of Into the Ring, but like what I've seen so far. Just need to circle back at some point.

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Into the Ring!

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I would recommend Into the ring and if you are looking for other romance dramas, I would say Find me in your memory and Chocolate. These 3 were my personal favourite romance dramas of the year. But if you don't mind other genres, I would say Stove league, 365: Repeat of the year (only 12 episodes), Chip-in (only 8 episodes) and Mystic Pop-up bar(only 12 episodes)

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I second STOVE LEAGUE, MYSTIC POP-UP BAR and CHIP -IN. They are very different one from another but all are great- classics in fact. I would add I'LL COME TO YOU WHEN THE WEATHER IS NICE.

Anyone who says this year did not have great dramas is simply wrong or sadly ignorant.

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oh yes! I'll come to you when the weather is nice is also good. In terms of tone of drama, I can say that into the ring is on one side of the spectrum while chocolate and I'll come to you when the weather is nice is on the other, while find me in your memory is probably in the middle. But all are really good.

"Anyone who says this year did not have great dramas is simply wrong or sadly ignorant." And I have to second this. The people who say that are probably the ones who watch dramas with only star-studded lineups, in which case I will probably agree with them. Not one satisfied me because, despite their plot or their start, they somehow become a mess in the second half.

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Or we just have totally different taste in dramas. None of them will stay in my memory as a favorite.

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Which is why I mentioned that they were my personal favorites. I can completely respect that you have different tastes.

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Kairos!!! Watch Kairos~~~ 😊

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Joining in the Into the Ring chorus. I found it fun, well acted, and easy to watch.

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This was a great year of dramas! "I'll find you when the weather is nice", "Hospital Playlist", "It's ok" were my personal favorites. "Into the Ring" is my next project. Also, I need to make an effort to pick up "Flower of Evil", it totally deserves it.

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Thanks, lately, money, tsutsuloo, Esther, and OldLawyer for the responses! Much appreciated. I think my path is clear....

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Also Mj91, Kurama, CBme, Fly Colours, vv, mugyuljoie is preciousss, Kairoscat, lillamy! (Got lost in the intra-thread before responding 😳.) A couple of others you mentioned are on my radar; kind of nice to see some love for "I'll Come to You When the Weather Is Nice" because the setup and descriptions appealed to me but I'd seen some negative comments. Already seen Stove League and Mystic Pop-Up Bar and enjoyed both quite a lot. In fact, I recommended MPUB as a first drama for a good friend of mine and he totally enjoyed it (had to be something on Netflix for him to watch it).

Thanks again for all of the suggestions!

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There was so much to do this week, so I could only recently catch up on

Nine Tailed Fox - Thank the Almighty HAF Fox God that the wait is over. Please don't break my heart next week, but please keep up being an unpredictable rollercoaster of a creepy, extra, over the top, most beautiful fox fest. How disgusting was that egg-vomiting? Loved it. And Haraboji leaving his evil wife to stop the Truck if Doom, perfect timing!

Kairos - I will catch up tonight. I am very excited for it.

Do Do - Very glad to have missed the opportunity to watch this crash and burn. I am sorry for all of you who stayed till the end. I hope you can forget the ending as soon as possible. Don't skip any meals.

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DoDoSol...nope. I get annoyed when I hear Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.

I'm about to start Start-Up and Strongest Deliveryman since I've seen mostly good stuff.

Watching C-Dramas The Wolf and Jiu Liu Overlord on Viki.

Started Chicago Typewriter and I am liking it so far but only 2 episodes in.

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Shout-out to Chicago Typewriter!
And taking the chance to promote Yoo Ahin's next drama: Hellbound, who's been announced to premiere on Netflix on January 18

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Bigger shout out to the Wig of Glory!

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Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol: The drama was going a little off the rails the last few episodes but was held together by a strong foundation of characters and hard-to-describe warm of the drama. The drama did feel like a warm hug and it was going to get me through the bad things, like Joon getting leukemia. THEN the drama killed Joon off and THEN resurrected him on the premise that he let everyone think he had died for 5 years. That whole reveal took about 3 minutes, so he only had time to be like "Hey I'm live. Not dead. LOL" and Ra-ra is like "What?! You're not a ghost? Why'd you let me think you were dead? *light beating*" Then smooch and the end. There really was soooo much to love about this drama and the drama was strong enough to go in a variety of much better directions. Reminded me of how I felt after that infamous How I Met Your Mother finale.

Tale of the Nine-Tailed: Only up to episode 13. While they can't predict everything that the slippery Imoogi is going to do, I totally appreciate that these characters at least try to be clever and strategic because of course the Imoogi is not going to be easy to beat. It's been around forever and has won before. Can I say that I sort of love Imoogi Ji-ah? She's pretty charismatic. I'm glad to see Jo Bo-a get to flex her acting muscles since the male actors typically get to shine more, especially at this point in the storytelling.

Sound of The Heart: Reboot: I loved the original with Lee Kwang Soo. Season 1 of the reboot was not really funny, but I can't tell if it's because I was really into the original with Lee Kwang Soo and couldn't adapt to the reboot. But I'm finding Season 2 of the reboot to be actually LOL funny. Is it because I've gotten used to the reboot's characters or is it actually funnier? Any dramas similar to Sound of Your Heart out there?

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Waikiki has a special humour... and I Live in Cheongdam-dong (though the subs may not be complete).

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Thanks! I loved Waikiki! Maybe, I'll may pick up the second season then. It's just hard to imagine Lee Joon-ki (Lee Yi-kyung) with new roommates. I'll also look up I Live in Cheongdamdong.

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WOO HOO WAIKIKI is a pure comedy, as is PEGAGUS MARKET. Both have fabulous humor- and moments that touch your heart as well.

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I'm still gathering strength to read the weecap of the final week of LaLaLand...

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I have one episode left of Do Do Sol Sol, but I have been bracing myself since Jun's age/school grade reveal.

I really enjoyed Sound of Your Heart with Lee Kwang Soo too, and for the same reasons you described, I had difficulty with the reboot. However, since you find the reboot season 2 funny, I will give it a 2nd chance.

Thanks for your comment.

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Evil Jiah is really good, Jo Boa is nailing the imoogi transitions!

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Tale of the Nine-Tailed: the OTP is never going to be a gold-standard couple for me, but I realized this week that I'm actually impressed with Jo Bo-ah as she's progressed in the show. Her start felt wobbly, but she's really come into her own. Her evil Ji-ah is distinctly its own character, and the interaction with LDW feels more fluid now. I love that Rang and Yeon are bros again but they they still poke at and get irked by each other. I just do not understand the point of Taluipa; she's constantly going on about how, "it's your destiny!" and then she's all literally playing with Ji-ah's life on her whim. *head shake* Mostly I like how I'm never entirely sure how the next episode will go. The ride has gotten better as the show has progressed, IMO.

The Time When We Were Not in Love: so, for some reason I'm really fascinated by Ha Ji-won. And I don't know why, because the last two things I've watched her in have just had me scratching my head as to why she would choose these projects. I was intrigued by the story description, watched the first 5 episodes, skipped 6, and then picked up again at episode 12 basically having missed nothing and employed the FF button considerably through the end. I'm not sure why I didn't drop it. I think maybe because I really liked looking at her outfits. (I can't believe I said that, but I think it's true.)

The Spies Who Loved Me: I'm three episodes in, but I was hooked halfway through the first. The interplay between Yoo In-na and Eric is fantastic. The more I see of Yoo In-na, the more I like her. I hear great things about this one, so I'm hopeful I'll continue to enjoy it. I'm just sorry that I have to stream it on iQIYI; I notice that the streaming quality isn't as good as other platforms, and the casting quality is terrible whether on app or laptop.

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I'm using this to make a pitch for the Japanese version of "In Time With You" / "The Time We Were Not In Love", which aired last year on Viki. I thought it was really well made, and I enjoyed it way more than the Korean version.

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The original one was the TW version "In Time With You". It was really good with Ariel Lin and Chen Bo-Lin. The Korean version is the worse between TW and JP ones.

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All the angst over Dodo Sol makes me want to said I TOLD you 'More Than Friends' was the better series! I told you so! Y'all watched the wrong series. ;-)
But seriously, I'm waiting for captions to be written on the 'My Dangerous Wife' finale, which was a wild and crazy ride. No getting upset over absurd plot twists om this one because the entire series was made up of absurd plot twists.

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After finishing My Dangerous Wife (the whole thing was bonkers), I'm now looking forward to Queen Cheorin/Mr. Queen beginning Dec. 12. All the trailers and posters make me feel giddy and I anticipate much humor and pathos.

This weekend, I hope to make time for Jang Hyuk's film The Swordsman. It's pretty much Taken set in Josean times. And believe me, Jang Hyuk has a certain set of skills.

This week I binged the first 12 of 43 episodes of the c-drama Twisted Fate of Love, airing Mon, Tue, Wed through Dec. 21. (Eps. run about 30 min, give or take.) This is good trash, y'all. Dong Yue (Sun Yi) is a lady general who, on the verge of death, is sent magically back 8 or 9 years in the past to prevent a civil war that has ravaged the country. Her intent is to assassinate Lu Yuantong, the treacherous minister who started the war. Her weapons include her (limited, one-sided) knowledge of recent history, killer martial arts, and a jade flute that helps her regenerate from injuries—even death. Her mission is complicated by entanglements with the saintly Third Prince and the morally ambiguous Feng Xi, a nobleman recorded by history to be complicit in the conspiracy leading to war.

I will straight up acknowledge Feng Xi is a "problematic man." After the first five episodes, I was sure that "Twisted" referred to the ML. Feng Xi is a manipulative shyster who appears to do anything to his achieve his political goals. But he's more than he appears and later episodes show more complexity. He's well-played by Jin Han, a 27-year-old actor known for darker roles. In the first 12 episodes, he brings a surprising mixture of wiliness, cruelty, humor, sensuality and even cuteness to the role. It's the type of character Alan Rickman could do in his sleep.

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Thanks for the rec, @tsutsuloo! After DDSSLLS which looked like deliciously comforting junk food turning to be bitter poison, I sure can use some good trash which doesn't pretend to be anything but that!

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The trailers/posters/teasers fo Mr Queen look SOOO good! I am trying not to get too giddy and hopeful about it, but the temptation is strong with this one!

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I've put three subway sammiches on my dramagod altar in preparation for Queen Cheorin/Mr. Queen!

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The female lead is played by my very favorite actress Shin Hye-sun. This is not an absolute guarantee of success but considering that she managed to make a success out of the actually badly written ANGEL'S LAST MISSION it comes close.

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Yes! I first appreciated Shin Hye-sun in Stranger. I still need to see Thirty but Seventeen though.

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You have to see THIRTY BUT SEVENTEEN. It is an absolute classic. So many great characters in addition to the one played by Shin Hye-sun like Jennifer and Yoo CHan.

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Thirty but Seventeen is wonderful (you might have to give it a little time to grow on you). If you need something heart warming, it's a perfect fit.

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Ditto on "Thirty But Seventeen" and would also watch anything with Shin Hye-sun in it. The Swoon has a fun video about her range: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7nBzEK6GY

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The episodes of Twisted Fate of Love that I have watched so far are very enjoyable. I really like the ML. Many of his actions (and some unintended consequences) towards the FL are very questionable, but his rationale sort-of-kind-of makes sense. 😬😅 He manipulates everyone and everything for his ends but, as the show progresses, you realise all is not as it seems with him. Jin Han does the role justice, as you have pointed out.

I would be surprised if Third Prince stays as saintly as he appears throughout the show's run.

I have to laugh whenever the FL says the words '... assassinate Lu Yuantong'. It's like a mantra I have come to expect in each episode, sometimes twice!

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I have to comment on this thread because of the pic of Han teamjangnim making its way to the cover photo of this thread! 🥰

Start-up: I was more engaged with this one, but now my attention wanes because of the prolonged love triangle 😱. We all know Dal-mi won’t end up being with Ji-pyeong so why does the writer have to tease us this much? It’s beginning to be too exhausting. Just give Han teamjangnim some peace.

DoDo: Nownbecause I was caught up with Start-Up I’m three eps behind. Looking at the outrage on the Beanies’ fan walls, I’m not sure if I should continue watching (I successfully avoided all spoilers though). At the end of ep13, secretary Moon was revealed to be an actor... but if I don’t finish this one I am losing a bean at the year’s count.

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I strongly believe that it's not worth the bean. If you can save yourself, I say do it!

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I concur: Finishing DoD is not worth the bean. You are at a good stopping place so stop.

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@frabbycrabsis @oldawyer I will stop now then. The show has been my happy pill since it started. Looking how awful it sounds for its finale, I’ll just stop here and imagine the couple lasts forever.

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Didn’t you know? DoDo ended at episode 13. Everything else was a mass hallucination. You goy your bean!

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I love this conclusion. Now I’m counting this as a bean 😏🤣🤣🤣🤣

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I'm okay with watching Ji Pyeong suffer because KSH does it so well. I have faith that we'll be rewarded with a KSH lead role soon.

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Yes! I am very positive that he'll accept the offer to lead the drama Link by TVN. I mean he might have accepted the role, who knows?

Looking forward to more of Prince Dimples's lead roles.

P.S. Do you know that he has had more than 2.2 million accounts starting to follow his Instagram account after Start-Up has premiered? That IS something!

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I think Netflix airing the drama helped with that. He's was equally distracting in Strongest Deliveryman.

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Zombie Detective🧟🕵️‍♂️ (12/12): Fifth Bean for 2020!🥳 The show brought back some comedy after the tragic past reveal, but it did not live up to the earlier episodes when our favorite Mr. Zombie tried to blend in with humans. What stood out to me this last few episodes is how deliciously fed up he is with everything.🤣 Watching himself on camera like in a horror movie, Seon-Ji knocking him out with a frying pan, getting an ugly hairdo after being electrocuted, Seon-Ji taking her sweet time to untie him in the veterinarian lab, zero privacy inside the morgue,…no wonder he is such a grump!😆 Forget about reading the phone book, Choi Jin-Hyuk should narrate my whole life as if it were yet another bad zombie movie plot.😎

Shopping King Louie 🛒🤴 (8/16): Halfway into the show and fully invested! It took me a bit to warm up to Louie because I know people with the same bad habits that the show played for laughs. Fortunately I gave Ziggy the benefit of the doubt and now our shopping king is stepping up his game to mature and woo the lady! Just continue to be supportive and give her some extra needy hugs, Louie!🤗 Not that he would need to, because he and Bok-Shil are already beautiful besties and a family unit on their own without the romance.🏡 Cha Joong-Won is another supportive suitor, but a mystery. He could have a great mentor-mentee relationship with Bok-Shil, but they need to interact more. Actually, Joong-Won should interact more with people in general, he seems lonely.

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Startup: 6.5 (for the week) For all the noise about Noongil costing too much to operate and not having any profit potential, I don't recall any discussion of charging for the app, and/or a monthly fee to cover those server costs. It seems to me that people with vision issues would find it well worth paying for. For a future enhancement I suggest training it to look at the first day of a kdrama and tell us whether it will be worth watching :)

Fly Dragon / Delayed Justice: 6.4

Birthcare Center: 7.5

Kairos: 8.0

Tale of the 9-Tailed: 8.0

Spies Who Loved Me: 7.0 Day 9: What!?? An "intelligence"/law-enforcement agency lets a flippin' NORTH KOREAN hacker run around in a sensitive facility unattended???

Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol: __ No, I'm not watching, but the fan-wall meltdowns make me feel good about dropping it on day 1.

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One of the few flaws in START-UP was the assertion that Noongil could not be profitable. Any truly valuable service is inherently profitable. Charge a modest fee, or ask the government disabilities agency to pay for it (with a modest profit built in- say 10%) and remember that we are talking every English speaking country in addition to the ROK. Any way you slice it both your original signature checking app plus Noongil means that you get to leave Sandbox the right way: To your own corporate building in Seoul.

Really, this flaw is similar to your problem with the North Korean Hacker in THE SPIES WHO LOVED ME. The writer has inserted a totally unrealistic element into a story as a plot device. Suspension of disbelief is only possible up to a point. When a writer pushes past that point it has a jarring effect on the viewer. It is particularly jarring when it happens in an otherwise well written show- and START UP in particular is otherwise well written.

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NoonGil has so many application possibilities; it is not restricted to what the SamSan team came up with, i.e., to aid the visually disabled. It could have been converted into a profitable venture with some imagination. I thought the dismissal of its viability was very hasty.

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Everybody accusing Joon of being a jerk, but please.... remember it was the writer behind that! Poor Joon 😣 I can feel him like those characters with Ego in Extraordinary You thinking "stupid writer".

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Nobody has commented on my favorite show to hate - Penthouse - so I will do it so you don't have to :D
As per usual, almost nobody has any redeeming qualities - I am not even sure I trust the dog at this point. Insane parents galore trying their best to destroy their kids and each other. I am however disappointed that the body count seems to have slowed down. And oh yeah, they just HAD to toss in a couple of those utterly stupid ghost scenes. Makjang to the max - on of those shows that is so bad it's great.

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I've put Penthouse on hold for now. >40episodes of makjang across 3 seasons sounds like too much commitment for me at the moment as I'm too engrossed with another drama 😅. Also...I'm not a fan of seasonal k-dramas. I like my kdramas to have an ending...*sideyes* Vagabond 🙃.

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I predict you'd watch season 2 of Vagabond if a certain someone continued his role. He could also have a twin we don't know about who's a brain surgeon that saves the life of one of our gang when one of them is finally harmed by one of the explosions they seem to attract.

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But if you quit now, you will miss the part where the zombies show up!

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Penthouse is that show you love to hate.
Soo Ryun isn’t too good or bad, mixture of both and I’m liking how smart she is and I’m rooting for her because, poor Min seol ah😢

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“ I am however disappointed that the body count seems to have slowed down. “

If the genre decides to go into haunted horror, does the body count go down by a fraction? I do agree with you I was expecting/hoping for the body count to go up. I mean there’s much potential for newer and stranger and greedier and more over the top “families” to move in.

“And oh yeah, they just HAD to toss in a couple of those utterly stupid ghost scenes.”

I thought it would be interesting for the ghost to be real rather than a hallucination. The Penthouse would be a really interesting haunted mansion. With 3 seasons, they could add in a few more genres...for example, some slumming aliens could move in - Coneheads and mukbangs were made for each other. Make it the mukbang for the 0.1% and it would be perfect for the Penthouse elite!

“ Makjang to the max - on of those shows that is so bad it's great.“

Yes, but there’s so much more room to get worse, to reach for true greatness on the down side!

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LOL! - This for sure "there’s so much more room to get worse". Some kdramas are famous for over the top tropes, but Penthouse beats them all by a mile. I am still hoping that the dog goes rabid and bites a few people.

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I feel like I can’t settle on anything much at the moment. I’ve been watching lots of bits of variety shows based on my sister’s recommendations - am enjoying Begin Again even with no subs, though I barely understand a thing - the songs are great.

Dramawise, the LSG marathon continues - Over halfway through Korean Odyssey the feeling of impending doom is strong.

Six Flying Dragons - still enjoying. I watched an old episode of Master in the House a while back where the master talks about reacting to something the camera can’t see at the end of every episode of a historical drama and now I can’t unsee it 😅

Start up is on hold because I started watching Strongest Deliveryman, which is grittier than I was expecting.

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STRONGEST DELIVERYMAN is a very good show. So is START-UP.

SIX FLYING DRAGONS is not available in my region or I would be watching it.

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“ the feeling of impending doom is strong.”

Your feeling is right on. Maybe not in the way you expect, though.

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DO DO SOL SOL LA LA SOL was my happy pill until the last episodes. Like Stroopwafel, Quirkycase and a LOT of other people I was astounded at how thoroughly the writer of the immortal SHOPPING KING LOUIE proceeded to completely destroy this story. I have seen this once before when the writer of one of my favorite romcoms- MARRIAGE NOT DATING- proceeded to totally lay an egg with SHY BOSS. For anyone who has not watched this yet I have a very serious recommendation: Watch it through episode twelve and then stop.

In sharp contrast to DDSSLLS is the wonderfully written START-UP. The acting, direction and even cinematography are good. Our characters are wonderfully flawed and so achingly human. Want a good numerical measure of a shows impact? Check out the ‘open thread’ for this show- in only 5 days 476 comments have been posted. The show has a very successful writer who seems to have put in an exceptional effort to what is becoming a real masterpiece.

Meanwhile TALE OF THE NINE-TAILED is back. Yippee. My wife was excited to learn that there will be another gumiho story coming in a few months (FRIGHTENING COHABITATION).

The weekender HOMEMADE LOVE STORY has now has its dastardly evil villian in full operational mode. That he happens to be the father of our main female lead character is an unusual twist. I am also still re-watching the classic SMILE YOU and it is as great as I remember it.

I have started PLEASE DON’T DATE HIM but the subtitles on Viki are unusually slow. So far I have only seen one episode so I do not have a real sense as to how good this show will be.

My wife finis