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Mr. Queen: Episodes 1-2 Open Thread

Mr. Queen is here, and so far it’s every bit the crazy ride we expected. In its opening week we meet our hero, follow his magical mishap, and then join him in a world of Joseon mayhem. It’s wacky, it’s bawdy, and the hijinks are only getting started.

 
EPISODES 1-2 WEECAP

Our drama opens with a pretty frank picture of our hero JANG BONG-HWAN (Choi Jin-hyuk). After his awesome comedic performance in Zombie Detective, it’s fun to see him here, even if it’s just a cameo. Bong-hwan is a top chef at the Blue House, and though he might be ultra talented, he’s also totally full of himself… and he’s such a player!

Just in his few minutes onscreen, we see him checking out every woman that’s breathing, whether it’s a love affair in the kitchen supply room, or blatant sexual interest in every woman that passes. He gets in trouble with the law, and in a crazy scuffle, winds up falling from his balcony (but he’s not above checking out an attractive woman on his way down).

He smashes into a swimming pool, cracks his head open… and this is the moment where the body swap begins. After a random underwater kiss with a woman in hanbok, though.

When Bong-hwan wakes up, he’s now KIM SO-YONG (Shin Hye-sun), a courtier who’s about ten seconds away from becoming queen of Joseon. It’s a fast-moving and really funny journey from Bong-hwan’s denial to actually piecing together, and finally accepting, what’s happened to him. Of course, these sort of body swap and time slip dramas require us to embrace the madness — and maybe because every scene here is total madness, it just makes it that much easier to get on board.

Shin Hye-sun’s awesome performance is what really sells this, though. From oogling her/his court ladies, to the totally unladylike behavior and manspreading — it’s pretty funny. Gender bending and body swap dramas have a storied history in dramaland, and while they’re not my favorite, I can appreciate when the drama is having a good ol’ time with it. And Mr. Queen sure is.

It doesn’t take So-yong (we’ll call our hero by his Joseon queen identity now) long to stitch the details together. First, she makes a connection between the fact that the last thing she remembers is falling into the pool, and the thing she’s told by her court ladies is that she almost drowned in the lake and has been unconscious for a whole day.

The court is not only concerned for her safety, but her mental health too — as will happen when the Destined Queen wakes up with a personality transplant, a lurid gaze for all the women around her, and regularly tries to drown herself in every body of water she can locate. The water, of course, is So-yong’s only link back to her world, but when near-drowning doesn’t work, she slowly comes to accept the time slip/body swap that has occurred. After first thinking it’s a giant prank and she’s been forced into a sex change operation against her will, haha.

Episode 1 does a pretty great job of selling the concept, as we follow So-yong through her panic, denial, and eventual acceptance that what happened to her is very real. Rather than fight it and continue to freak out the court with her seeming suicide attempts, she decides to play along (well, mostly), and get to the bottom of the mystery.

As we know, any royal court is rife with political struggle and power dynamics, and Mr. Queen is no exception. Just as So-yong soon fills in the details of her identity, she meets KING CHEOLJONG (Kim Jung-hyun), whom she’s about to marry.

Their first meeting is pretty epic — So-yong demanding the lake to be refilled, and King Cheoljong deeply “studying” his 19+ reading material. So-yong (or, Bong-hwan, really) is pretty up on her history, and there’s a great moment where she’s trying to piece together which king Cheoljong is, and then recalling that he’s remembered in history as a “Joseon representative sex maniac” and a mere political puppet.

Sure enough, that’s the king that we meet — it doesn’t get more banal than Cheoljong sitting in court following the QUEEN DOWAGER SUNWON’s (Bae Jong-ok) cues, and having absolutely no ability to follow the political goings-on of his own court. In fact, Cheoljong is such a snooze that I got worried for a second. Is there anything here for Kim Jun-hyun to chew on here besides mooning over his royal concubine? But they don’t string us on for long, and soon we realize he’s actually a bit of an undercover hero! Or at least, that’s what we’re beginning to see with his secret night ninja squad and their attempts to undo political corruption.

But first, marriage! King Cheoljong marries So-yong, who is comedically horrified over their wedding night, and equally ridiculous during the entire ceremony when she’s trying to deal with the headdress or proper court protocols. That the marriage is a mere political one soon becomes obvious, and that’s when we start to see Cheoljong’s image fall apart. He’s not even remotely interested in her sexually, seems to have eyes only for his royal concubine JO HWA-JIN (Seol In-ah) — and he knows a whole lot more than he lets on.

One of my favorite elements of the premiere week were these hints that Cheoljong is very different from how history remembers him, and that So-yong will not only learn the truth, but that there will be a lot of court intrigue and mysteries to unpack along the way. We’re only at the very start of the story, but already So-yong is getting memory flashes of the night she fell into the lake. I have a feeling we’ll be discovering the truth behind this mystery in no time.

Can’t stop a player, though. So-yong might be committed to playing her role and getting to the bottom of things… but that doesn’t stop her from escaping from the palace cross-dressed as a man, and scurrying off to a gisaeng house. Here she has a lovely time for herself, surrounded by alcohol and beautiful women. Oh gosh, Shin Hye-sun is so believable here, and so great at capturing this horndog man trapped in a queen’s body, that this is all as trippy as it is entertaining, and that definitely feels like the aim here.

Overall, I found Mr. Queen’s opening week to be a pretty strong one, with a clear concept, and a lot of hints of what’s to come. And though it might be a little early to guess, it seems like So-yong/Bong-hwan will be making a positive impact on the court (and possible history, too) — once she finishes grieving over her missing “dragon” and “dragon balls,” that is.

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her missing dragon and dragon balls so so funny.

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I laughed alot at that.

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I laughed so hard, specially watching how shocked ByeongIn was!!

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I watched this on a whim yesterday, and wow, Choi Jin-hyuk and Shin Hye-sun are comedy gold! Hopefully they'd continue having Choi Jin-hyuk's voiceovers all throughout.

The court intrigue and the monarch remembered differently by history is giving me Scarlet Heart: Ryeo vibes while the ninja vigilantes remind me of Chicago Typewriter. Good thing Bong-hwan's parents were history teachers and he actually remembered stuff lol.

So-yong's flashbacks make it seem that Cheol-jong despises her, but it was weird that at the gisaeng house his companions told him to not let his emotions take over when they recognized that the guy who barged in on them was actually So-yong in disguise... Hmmm, does he have feelings for her?

Also my boy Na In-Woo as the queen's cousin who seems to have a crush on her? Yes please! Kim Won-hyung was a laughable villain in MPUB, so I'm hoping he's a meaningful character here. Episode 1 showed that he's a capable warrior and episode 2 showed that he's cunning and can play politics, so there's that.

Court Lady Choi is turning out to be the most-stressed character in this show lol.

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That's what am thinking too about the "don't give in to personal feelings" remark, maybe it's not just a desperate, one-sided felling from So-yong. Maybe it was mutual but something happened to cause a fall-off. But was it sabotage or was she really villainous? Am so curious!

Court Lady Choi and Hong-Yeon are such a hoot!

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That line caught my attention too and I am wondering now if it is the drama's way out of being BL-ish. But at the same time it seemed like King Cheoljong really has feelings for the concubine. He could totally fake it though. I just don't want this drama to end up like Oh My Ghostess where the main lead falls in love with the ghost but then gets scared of the fact that she is a ghost and acts like she never existed, then proceeds to get together with the host. Nope. If Cheoljong falls in love with Bong Hwan's soul they better stick with that even if his love never gets reciprocated.

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I'd like to think what he has for Jo Hwa-jin as a brotherly, comrade-in-arms-against-rots-of-Joseon kind of feeling, but then again we have his reputation as "representative sex maniac" ><

The ideal OTP for me will also be Cheoljong + Bong-hwan('s soul), and for all we know, they can make Cheoljong reincarnate as a woman in 2020. But we still got 18 more episodes so anything can happen...

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I was thinking about Oh My Ghostess when it seemed like we'll be getting to know So-yong. Like Bong-hwan is just there to right a wrong and then he'll return to the present after his mission.

Then again, there isn't much for Bong-hwan to return to. They didn't establish any strong ties to the present so that helps clear the way for Bong-hwan to stay in the past, though with time travel, I'm typically always against modern characters getting stuck in the past without modern medicine and amenities.

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Poor Court Lady Choi 🤣😂

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She has all my support!

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i don't think i've laughed this hard in a long time! the first episode was comedic gold from the acting to the hilarious directing and bgm. Even if he's only a special appearance choi jin hyuk feels like a vital of this hilarious story and i hope they have him for a long time. Needless to say shin hye sun nails this role and i hope they keep this momentum till the end.

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It was pretty funny. I love to watch Shin Hye-Sun with our Zombie Detective's voice as thoughts. She nailed the role as a man in the body of a woman.

I never was a fan of Kim Hung-Hyun and if I found completely boring in the scene with Jo Hwa-Jin, for the rest he was good.

The politics look pretty complicated with the different clans and power war. It's hard to focus with so much humor the rest of the time.

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Since I have been working on Japanese subs for Zombie Detective on Viki right now, I watch it a lot, every day.
I never get tired of watching. Still so funny, oh it was a super underrated great show...
Anyway, I'm sooo happy to hear Choi Jin-hyuk's inner voice again! Hope his voice will continue until he goes back to his present life.

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His inner thoughts in Zombie Detective were so funny !

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Did Zombie 🧟‍♂️ detective end well? I don't watch zombies but I'm curious about Choi Jin Hyuk's drama.

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It's not really a scary show but a humoristic one with the zombie trying to learn to act as a human : walking fast, buy BB cream, etc.

It was a short drama and the end was good.

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It's an absolute gem!
And it's not really scary. They inserted funny stuff even in the middle of serious scenes.
Yes, the ending is good too. I hope there will be a season 2... (probably not due to the ratings...😢)

Anyway, Choi Jin-hyuk totally nailed it.
Highly recommended! (if you like dramas like Pegasus Market, you definitely should watch it!)

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I loved the show and concur it's not horror. If anything, they trot out horror tropes to comedic effect.

They really don't do the usual graphic visuals one might expect when they hear "zombie".

SPOILERS BELOW FOR ZOMBIE DETECTIVE.
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They did a predictable "it will be happily ever after" angle with a newspaper lead he found on one way he could be human again that isn't explained well at how suddenly there's a science of zombie study (and of course in another country).

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I was watching Zombie Detective, then got too busy to finish. Right before I started watching this show, I finished watching Zombie Detective. I had totally forgotten he was the time/body traveler in this show.

It took my brain a bit to adjust after the time travel because I kept wanting the Queen to look like a zombie. Oh, and when he answers the door in modern times in the robe, my brain thought "wow, that's a LOT of coverup he had to wear". Poor brain!

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Shin Hye-sun was made for this role! I lost count of how many different facial expressions she had in just the first episode! I love that we get to hear Choi Jin-hyuk’s voice when Bong-hwan is thinking, his deep voice makes it that much more funnier

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The show is so funny, so when I read somewhere that this is a remake of chinese drama, I go googling. And finished reading the whole synopsis (35 episodes plus 1 special episode)

But I have a good vibes that kdramaland wll have something new to offer regards the original novel.

And I can't complain to see less of Choi Jin Hyuk because I can still hear his deep sexy voice.

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the political issue here is heavier than i expected. somehow the queen (or her whole clan?) is the antagonist and the king hates her so so so so so much. Jang Bonghwan is aware of the issue but he chooses to not give a fuck about it. its going to take some time for them to be in the same page. i wish it won't be so frustrating.

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Yea, also want him to be on the same page with Cheoljong soon but guess it'll be a while before he feels invested in the Joseon people since he sees himself as a temporary guest. Also wondering him being a history buff will be good or bad, if he is leery of changing history, it might limit his actions.

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First episode is a non-stop laugh, second episode is slower but with more intrigues. We all know that Cheol-jong is not a mere clown, but is the angelic Jo Hwa-jin really that straight of an arrow? Along with that, am also liking that Bong-hwan has a mystery to figure out (beside how to get his dragon balls back): what makes So-yong tick and who is responsible for her drowning.

Shin Hye-sun and Choi Jin-hyuk made a great meld as one person, love how in sync the inner voice with the expression. All the characters are a hoot, especially both So-yong's ladies. I died when the Grand Dowager Queen did the manual wrinkle treatment! But so far Kim Tae-woo's character scares the heck out of me...

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I agree with how well Shin Hye-sun and Choi Jin-hyuk melded! They're on the same physical comedy wavelength too. That is some awesome casting.

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I was VERY impressed by the syncing of inner voice and action on screen. Good acting/editing really helps because you don't get bogged down distracted by poorly time linked elements.

I felt sooooo bad for the court lady that had to do the manual wrinkle treatment.

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OHHH!! This one exceeds my expectation! at least in the opening week, for now. And I think all the credit really goes to Shin Hyesun for that (because we haven't seen non-puppet Cheoljong much).

I didn't realize this until someone else figure it out but most of the times actress who is able to pull this kind off over the top comedic characters is actually pretty funny in real life but I do think Shin Hyesun is more on the shy and calm side of the spectrum. So it is more amazing if you think it that way tbh. And She is great as candy girl (Still 17, still loving that) and as serious character (I catch a glimpse of Angel and recently watched Innocence. she's great!) and this amazing character just add to her list of versatility as an actress. Also love how the total of 30 secs we saw the real Kim Soyong were really distinguishable from Bonghwan possessed Kim Soyong.

Although, I do hope the court intrigues didn't get so heavy and draggy because honestly I just want to see Kim Soyong being flirty and trying to kiss Grand Dowager's ass while Cheoljong looks so disgusted.

And I honestly didn't know where they are going with this drama. I kinda searched the original one and what happened with it, I don't think with how prim and proper Kdrama is they are really going with Bonghwan (inside Kim Soyong) falling in love with Cheoljong and vice versa. But anyway I can't wait for the loveline to happen and to find out what happened with Kim Soyong because she just seems so... sad....

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I think the plot is somehow similar to the original. Idk how accurate the original but when I watched it, I believe it doesn't base on real history. The plot layout is similar. If I remembering this correctly, the original Queen is in love with another person too.

I also don't think Kdrama will go like the original, they probably make KSY appears again. There is a Chinese drama with 2 souls one body, the eternal love (?), I think this drama will take that route. KSY soul will appear and she is nicer than everyone's thought and she'll help the King while Bong Hwan assisting to find the way back.

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Yes, I think so, with how they're trying to make us sympathize with Kim So yong she's definitely coming back. But I don't know how we will get there and what will happen with Bonghwan

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I really enjoyed the premiere week, plenty of LoL wacky moments and yes to Choi Jin-Hyuk’s sexy inner monologue. Please let us have his sexy deep voice throughout the drama.

And Shin Hye-Sun - she is amazeball 💕💕💕 (even w/out her dragonball 🤣🤣)and I don’t trust the sweet young thing of a royal concubine. I didn’t warm up to the king in Ep1 but I see glimpses of something I like in Ep2 so hopefully his character will grow on me as the drama progresses coz I do like the actor.

And please please most important of all, drama don’t you derail 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 20 episodes kinda long and more room to crash and burn (well technically not true as evidenced by a certain drama that shall not be named when the last 5 minutes of its last episode nullified whatever fun and good it did earlier)

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So far, I like it! And I must say, So Yong/Bong Hwan is a "he" for me, his current female body doesn't change that. Shin Hye Sun adapting Choi Jin Hyuk's expressions and mannerisms is pure gold. I would love it if CJH's voice stays till the end, similar to the narrator voice in "Jane the Virgin" who is a character of his own.
On the other hand, palace intrigues are not really my cup of tea, so my prayer goes to the drama gods (and writers) that the future episodes keep up the humour and observations of gender roles. Right now I am shipping So Yong/Bong Hwan with his maid, they make a very cute couple.

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Actually for all the hype about sex-swap its opening has instead been more about 'The past is a foreign country'.

At present the plot friction for out time-slip couple is actually more the time-slip and 'class' than gender role. Sure, its a male who has possessed a female's body and the drama really tries to remind us of it so we are critically aware of that component. However, nearly all the fish out of water moments are drawing on the inappropriate behaviour for the time. Once the bedroom story was disappeared quickly, from that point we have a working class modern SK being a bull in a china shop and those moments would have played the same if it was a vivacious modern female eg. Han Groo's role from "Marriage not Dating" who was transported back.

'The past is a foreign country' and in the brutal politics of Joseon court breaking so many 'norms' would be a fast track to mortal danger.

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I don't think souls have gender. It's the physical body that assigns your sex. But that's another discussion altogether 😅

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Biological sex and gender are not the same thing

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I think it doesn't matter when talking about souls. I think souls are beyond gender altogether...

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I agree, I might suggest to @missvictrix that the main lead might be referred to as Bong-hwan with male pronouns even when in the queen's body, especially considering the fact that things are bound to get confusing if we keep getting these flashbacks to the real queen and if she comes more into play in the future.

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Seconded!

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I agree as well.

If I get my wish, and they both are in her body at the same time, I think hir would be acceptable then. (For those that don't know, it's an accepted gender fluid blend of him/his +‎ her.)

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I'm actually hopefully/curious to see if they'll have the Queen's consciousness comes back while he's still in there. Then we can hear them inner bicker. I think that would be AMAZING, even if they don't extend it to the physical comedy of them fighting for control over their motor system. 😄

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Love the 1st week. The clear story and the clear characterisation really helps us to understand where the plot is moving. The acting is great and not to mention the camera placement. So many beautiful sceneries and how they placed the actors are really well done. Choi Jin Hyuk's voice with Shin Hye Sun matched so well, I wasn't aware that CHJ is even here.

I watched Go Princess Go a long time ago and that drama is a parody and I believe they tried their best with the budget, it hilarious. Despite the presentation, you get what they are trying to say, it such a ridiculous drama. Therefore, I am so glad that there is another remake with a different view, it's more comedy, not totally weird and probably can get more serious later on.

Love how KJH just slide on with his witty "scholar remark" as The King doesn't run and how you need to enjoy the moonlight better to set up the mood. I also like how the maid just straight up put Kim So Yong in her place when she messed up the stand.

Totally love how KSY just slide the misunderstanding of who is the "Queen dowager", that's super smooth.

We haven't got much Royal related Saeguk in 2020 but I've seen that 2021 has a lot of slot for the royal family.

As I've watched Go Princess Go and still remember some of its, I anticipated how KSY agree with the king and royal concubine love story but everyone totally misunderstand what she really mean.

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Love every time Cheoljong smoothly uses his reputation for his own purpose. Like that "Hohohoho~ho!" moment where he absolved the suspicion on Jo Hwa-jin, so funny and very on point!

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@palopi I really haven't branched out to Cdramas much (only so many hours in the day issue). I bookmarked that one for later just in case I ever find more time. Thank you!

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Definitely a fun opener - I'll be sticking around. Shin Hye-sun is owning this - everything she does is timed to perfection.

I slightly worried that the court politics are so intricate that they needed an entire tree diagram to explain it... I'm not a huge fan of having to take notes on who's on what side and why, so I *really* hope they steer clear of that and make it fairly easy to follow.

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It's really just the usual two families fighting for factional power. The Andong Kims are currently in power, headed by the more senior of the Dowager Queens, Queen Sunwon, and our female lead is the daughter of Queen Sunwon's younger brother, the guy that she correctly pegs as the main power in court. The other junior Dowager Queen Sinjeong (who's been using the Shaman's services and offers to curse someone for the concubine) is from the Pungyang Jo's, as is the concubine that Cheoljong seems to have real feelings for. The Andong Kims were notoriously corrupt, but frankly, it's hard to say that the Pungyang Jo's were any better. I mean, Queen Sinjeong is the one who basically handed the reigns of power to Daewongun, who is notoriously probably complicit in the Japanese assassination of Queen Min. So as with all power politics, don't look for good guys or bad guys. It's all just bad guys on opposite sides, as Terry Pratchett reminds us.

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"It's all just bad guys on opposite sides, as Terry Pratchett reminds us." So good! I'll keep that turn of phrase for my History students

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Thanks much for the explanation although it's still confusing to have so many Kims and Jos. So the guy played by Kim (har) Tae-woo is actually the Dowager Queen's brother? Was kinda thinking that he looked suspiciously like he's planning to poison her...
And I think So-yong's father is another Kim who possesses the ledger Cheoljong wants. Is he also the Dowager Queen's brother? Wondering if the ledger has anything to do with the discord between So-yong and Cheoljong.

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No - you're right, Kim Soyong's dad is *not* Kim Tae-woo's character. Too many Kims wearing imperial court clothes getting me confused too, hahaha! But Kim Taewoo's character is Dowager Queen Sun-won's younger brother. He probably doesn't love power-sharing with his older sister, but realistically he can't really remove her yet since she holds considerable power as the oldest Dowager Queen. Like, for example, if the current king drops dead now, Queen Sunwon is the one who gets the choose the next king since there's no immediate male issue from the current king; if he killed her off that right with go to Queen Sinjeong and the dreaded Pungyang Jo's. So he definitely has every incentive at the moment to make sure she stays alive and well. If Kim So-yong can produce a male heir (or several, preferably) though, then his incentives to keep his older sister alive definitely goes down.

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This was such a good beginning! Shin Hye-sun is really selling her role but what made the show for me was Choi Jin-hyuk's hilarious voiceover. Hope his hilarious silent reactions continue for a good while yet!

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I love this drama!
Shin Hye-Sun rocks!
Choi Jin-Hyuk's special appearance was great in Ep.1 and oh his inner voice!
It reminds me of Zombie Detective which I love love love.
His inner voice will be switched to Shin Hye-Sun's voice at some point (maybe from Ep.3)...? That would be a bummer!
Both main leads are fantastic of course and Cha Chung-Hwa (Court Lady Choi) is amazing.
Politics in the palace is hard to follow, I had to google the relationship and the history of the royal family in Chosen Dynasty.
Now I'm prepared and ready for Ep.3!
I can't wait for the weekend. This and The Uncanny Counter!

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If this drama is going to keep up like the first two episodes, it could make it to the highest-rating drama list of 2020 (2021?) or even all time!
I really hope it will be great until the end!

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I thought so too until I just read an article on Koalas Playground about how Korean viewers have already submitted hundreds of complaints to tvN about the show. And since ratings depend on the Korean audience, I don't know how much these complaints will affect the drama going forward, be it plot changes or low ratings. Here's a link:

http://koalasplayground.com/2020/12/15/tvn-receives-hundreds-of-complaints-for-recently-premiered-weekend-sageuk-queen-cheorin/

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It kinda normal that a drama gets hundreds of complain, happened with kinda almost every drama that make buzz. The one that people remember is backstreet rookie and it's okay not to be okay.

It's a comedy-drama with a disclaimer that it shouldn't be taken seriously. I think the main reason why people are mad is the "alleged" another work of the original web author that seems to be anti korean, not this particular work. Asian country is sensitive about history with their neighbouring country since if I think about saeguk that offend and give a different interpretation of the history, so many movies and other drama is not safe to take seriously.

I also heard about the line of the drama that makes the buzz which actually lies in the scriptwriter rather than the original author. The work they adapted is crazy, it's not a humor that everyone will take seriously but people love it because it doesn't make sense.

On the other hand, as a viewer, this actually makes you see the King in a better light, that he isn't the dummy he was portrayed to be. This reminds me that Saeguk has been taken the liberty in a storytelling way more than Chinese costume drama, which is why Saeguk can have a more happy ending, it feels like this outrage is fueled more by the how the author is Chinese and "said to have" anti-korean work than the work itself.

It's a time travel drama, just based on that, it already distorted history and doesn't make the reality the same as when our time work happen.

I don't think the rating will go down.

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Because Shin hyesun does tragic so well, I forgot how comic she can be. Sageuks have never been a favorite genre but mostly because of the "too" serious nature of them, but this one just catches the eye. While it does seem that there is controversy because of the use of actual historic figures, I can't say it bothers me because I know nothing about Korean history except for what I see in dramas. So, I enjoyed this.

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As always Shin Hye Sun elevates her dramas. I love it and I hope it continues to be funny. Her dragon indeed.

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I always expect a great performance from Shin Hye-sun and she has not disappointed me. She is my favorite actress for a reason.

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Go Shin Hyesun! She's so funny! Hope we'll get an enemies to buddies arc, but please, drama, let me enjoy Soyong and Cheoljong tricking each other for a while

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Yess..I don't ever want them to stop sizing each other up and trying to gain the upper hand, even as they inevitably end up working together against all the baddies in the palace..

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I really enjoyed the first two episodes.

Did anyone think it was funny that Choi Jin Hyuk changes into Shin Hye Sun in this drama, and in The Last Empress, a chubby normal guy after lots of exercise somehow turns into Choi Jin Hyuk?

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Choi Jin Hyuk might be actually an alien that has the ability to transform himself. We'll need to confirm this with Do Min Joon once he managed to stay long enough on Earth

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Holy Moly I can't believe I forgot that! Nice call back.

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I'm a bit late to the party.
I'll just say I had really fun, SHS is nailing the role!
I felt only a bit uncomfortable with one thing: I can fully understand that SoYong is worried about the wedding night, and is relieved to learned nothing happened (no one would want to be in that position), but then he goes to the gisaeng to pay to be surrounded by women. I know he's a man and loves women, but he's openly paying for them. It may be a comic relief but I didn't quite like that.

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Yeah I was thinking our hero is being set up as a player-y player who eventually learns that hey,women are may be worth knowing thanks to his body swapping hijinks. I was all ready to get icked out if he took advantage of angelic DY,but to his credit he seems to understand some lines he shouldn't cross . He also seems to empathize with the court ladies/SY and the lowly rung the joseon era places them on. I was a bit touched he sounded relieved for the real SY as he listened to DY and even said out loud he's glad SY has someone real in her life who genuinely cares for her.
Now to the gisaeng house antics,let's be real he couldn't really erm partake in any overt services apart from the kisses on the cheeks and paid flirtations without getting caught. Even in modern Korea,I understand getting paid drinking buddies at bars is not unusual ,Totally agree with you it's shady af,but not beyond the pale.

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I think he was more worried about the weirdness of having sex as a female thing rather than it being a consent issue. Yet I totally get the comparison you make.

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Shame that this drama is getting hate from netizens. Lol at all the comments praising the IQ lowering C-drama. I watched all of Go Princess Go because I liked the satire and the lead actress but quite frankly, the OTP made no sense:

-The hero was hung up over the mistress for 80% of the episodes
-The hero slapped the "heroine", publicly humiliated her many times, and then always came back and said please dont hate me for that but you made me do it.
-The hero tried to kill the "heroine"
-The hero faked a poisoning just to test the "heroine's" love for him.
-The hero raped the "heroine" by having sex with when they were drunk. The "heroine" did not consent to this. The hero then kicked the "heroine" out of the carriage and made them walk home
-The "heroine" politically supported the 9th Prince for majority of the drama.
-The "heroine" only politically supported the king after having the baby and to protect the baby. A pregnancy that happened because she was raped btw.
-The hero threatened the "heroine" with death if they tried to abort btw.

I can list a lot more. This is the drama people are calling "more tasteful" than the Korean version lmaooooooo. I cannot. It's only two episodes and the Korean version already has more depth and sense than the C-version.

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I started watching the C-drama on YouTube and honestly it is the lowest-budget drama I've seen in my life. The first part is filmed like a wanna-be music video in a night club with poor camera angles and lighting.

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The original C-drama sounds absolutely abominable.

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Wait until this drama gets to episode 10. Every repulsive thing will happened in this version too. It’s a remake, remember? Double it with more crude behaviors from alpha male queen , more politics, and much less visually “pretty” (coz every actor, male and female alike, were effeminately pretty in Cdrama)
The other drama was on internet, not on cable channel. And it was clearly a silly fantasy, with less known actors, nothing more. The Korean version comes across as a real sageuk with real historical characters. That was their biggest mistake. Another mistake was to cast a talented actress that gives too much “male” feels to the role. She equally offends female and male’s Knetez sensibilities. She imitates Choi Jin Huyk character better than he could do it himself. But what is the point of this? They would have been better off cross dressing Jin Huyk and letting him play the queen.

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So just to clarify, considering I'm not watching this yet but am considering picking it up - your main complaint about it is that it is too good and SHS's performance is too exceptional?

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Yep. You are right. Finally, someone got my point. SHS is too good of an actress, too well respected for such a demeaning, pointless for her character drama. Didn’t you read @Alvina’s comment about her character being raped, poisoned, abused, humiliated. And for what? Not to save the country, not to learn how it’s hard to be a woman. No it’s all just for laughs. Slapstick comedy they call it.

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Hrm. Now I'm worried I'll end up outright hating the show. I guess I'll find out when I get that far.

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I laughed so much during the first two episodes. Shin Hye-sun is doing a great job.

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I wasn't sure about this K-Drama, but all these comments have convinced me to watch it tonight!

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I love the drama, the actress and the characters all. Can't wait for next episode.
What I'm most curious though, how about the romance?

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Loved it, though I'm worried about future court politics overwhelming the story. So many great scenes! Shin Hye Sun and Choi Jin Hyuk seem to be on the same comedic wavelength and SHS with Kim Jung Hyun have amazing comedic chemistry. I love all of Bong-hwan's mannerisms and how SHS is able to display that player swag. And that urinal scene of him crying about his dragon was hilarious. Can't wait until he gets to show off his chef skills.

And I love it when Kim Jung jyun/Cheoljung is just yanking your chain. He has that blank-too-innocent look sometimes that practically screams "I'm up to something / I'm being frustrating on purpose".

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Totally recognized that particular face Cheoljong makes! Am wondering how long his queen will hold on before she gives him a smack ><

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Shin Hye Sun delivers with her acting chops yet again! Excited to see where they take the story!

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I was a fan of the Chinese web series. Still need to read the novel. Glad Korea made a remake

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Am I the only one curious out of my mind whether or not there will be romance between the Queen and the King? It's driving me insane because they hint at it but it could also just be teasing since they aren't much open about same sex relationships in Korea yet.. There is a lot of people denying romance from the start just because his previous body is a male. So there is no way there could be romance right? But this kind of thinking is just ignorant...Why would there be no chance of romance? Love is love. I think this drama would make a great breakthrough if there really was romance between the main leads.

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I'm finally getting around to this show and love it.

I so desperately wanted her head court lady to somehow be carrying socks in the early chase scene where the soon-to-be-queen freaks out and just starts running. They always seem to have all sorts of things hidden up their sleeves, so why not royal socks?

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Historically correct tops for the women had more voluminous sleeves, and they really were used to hold odds and ends. Soft stuff mostly, though. The straight sleeves currently used in dramas don’t have much room for stuff.

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It really makes you wonder how much harder it was to do their job, depending on what would be up their sleeves, as it were.

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Kim Hye Sun is hands down one of the best comedic talents in kdrama. She just nails this role. I mean it was already obvious in her role in Legends of the Blue Sea (2017) but here it's full blown awesomeness. Awesome cast.

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