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Mr. Queen: Episodes 5-6 Open Thread

Things are not going well for our hero. As expected, returning to his body and his present-day life is not as easy as jumping back into the mysterious lake. With a growing number of political enemies, competition in the court, and a king that’s starting to take an interest in his queen, our hero’s endurance (and ingenuity) is put to the test.

 
EPISODES 5-6 WEECAP

Will Bong-hwan’s cockiness prove to be his biggest flaw or his biggest asset while trapped in Joseon? We might not know the answer to that question yet, but it surely brings about a lot of action for our queen — and mayhem in the court.

In fact, the stand-off we ended on last week is a perfect example of that. Our hero admits that he can’t stand people “looking cooler than him,” which cues the dramatic confession of the attempted lake suicide (and a pretty hysterical use of 2NE1’s iconic “I Am the Best.”) It’s pretty funny how Bong-hwan is constantly trying to one-up everyone around him, and while he’s trapped as the queen, he’ll do whatever that means, even mock fainting to copy Hwa-jin.

The contrast the drama builds between Bong-hwan’s inner monologue and intentions, and his actions in queen So-yong’s body, continue to be the highlight of this drama. Shin Hye-sun is so hands-down fantastic here (I still can’t get over the body language!), that it’s almost impossible to see So-yong as an actual queen.

But, every now and then, there’s a moment when it’s easy to see what the narrative might look like if So-yong was actually So-yong, and there’s two favorite scenes this week that did that nicely.

The first is the stand-off at the courtyard, where Cheoljong has picked up the fainted Hwa-jin and is about to carry her to safety. Byung-in (heart!) is all about the rivalry here, and he picks up (fake) fainted So-yong in the same fashion. The heroes glare at each other with the heroines swooned in their arms. It’s both a quintessential romantic moment, and a crazy bit of satire, since we all know the truth about So-yong.

The second scene that I thought portrayed the same dichotomy quite well was So-yong’s rain dance. In terms of the plot this is important because a) rain means the lake fills up and Bong-hwan thinks he can head home; and b) Cheoljong is watching her from a distance, and it’s all too clear he’s starting to pay attention to his crazy queen.

But, beyond the plot, this scene also holds our dichotomy of Joseon romance and body swap comedy. When we see this rain dance from Cheoljong’s perspective, he sees his queen dancing gracefully to some moving and elegant music. However, when we see the scene from So-yong’s perspective, she’s twerking it out to Black Pink’s “Ddu Du Ddu Du.” Contrast = comedy! And it’s this multi-layeredness and contrasting storytelling that keeps Mr. Queen moving forward.

The plot might move slow, but we did learn some important things this week. First, the full (and magically deep) lake doesn’t hold the key to Bong-hwan’s return to real life. A deep dive and near drowning doesn’t trigger a thing — well, unless we are talking about Cheoljong and his sudden interest in preserving the queen’s life.

Cheoljong’s new-found interest in So-yong, and his idea that she’s not an enemy after all, is surely going to play out in some interesting ways later on. As for me, I’m ready for him to learn what “no touch” really means. I’m also starting to think that this drama would benefit from So-yong telling him the truth about the body swap — but I think I’m just itching for some “buddy cop” moments between these two. Surely if they join forces they can get stuff done.

With the lake an epic fail, So-yong tries to ingratiate herself to the queen dowager, hoping some shamanism will help her unravel the mystery and get things set to rights. This is another fail for So-yong/Bong-hwan, but a gain for the queen dowager (who’s long been on the opposite side of the battle with Hwa-jin).

The queen dowager secretly engages her shaman, and the woman has herself quite the moment, declaring there is an “evil soul” in the body of the queen. The scene escalates to a super high pitch, and when the shaman is doing her thing, we get flashes of a hospital bed and monitor. Ah, so that’s where Bong-hwan currently is! We’re led to believe that his life is in danger — because at that exact moment, we see So-yong in the kitchen fall into a dead faint.

Yes, this is what I’m talking about! I am all about these parallel universe cross-over elements, and I hope we get to explore more of the connection (or is that disconnect?) between Bong-hwan’s body and soul. There’s lots more drama to come, and I actually like that I don’t know which direction Mr. Queen is going to take — we’ve gotten some hints, but it’s still very much under wraps. I’m secretly hoping for Choi Jin-hyuk to show up in Joseon somehow… is that asking too much?

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I’m with you in that I like how it could go in a bunch of different directions, and I’m not sure which they’re going to choose. Shin Hye-Sun crushing it as always. I think at some point I’m going to go back through the show and screencap her expressions. Looking forward to this show week after week.

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Shin hye sun killed it again this week with the comedy as there were so many laugh out loud moments, didn’t know shin hye sun had the moves haha.

The directing definitely works in favour of the comic timing with the added bgm to bring in extra laughs. I also can’t overlook Kim Jung Hyun this week. The synergy between him and shin hye sun last and in this weeks episode when they go back and forth with the serious banter was sizzling. I especially loved the under water acting, which I assume is difficult, but he nailed it with the expressions. I really look forward to their newly established’no touch’ relationship but things seem to look dire on present day bong Hwan so here’s to hoping he doesn’t return anytime soon, just to keep the hijinks going much longer.

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You know you're in for a good time when 봉환아 (Bong-hwan a) plays.

I only looked it up yesterday thinking that it's "omona" or "mama" but it being "Bong-hwan a" is so perfect that I was crying with laughter.

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Everybody, follow that link.

(They also did music for Pegasus Market)

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The music at the ending always kind of threw me - but seeing this video makes it alot more fun.
and of course I now have to revisit Pegasus Market again. *best show ever*
thanks @lordcobol!

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Same! Ive been singing Omona until i saw the song posted on the wall 😄

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norazo is a perfect choice for this drama 😁😁
their stage always fun

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I don't know if its intentional but i cannot feel the chemistry between Cheoljong and Hwajin. King's brother start to annoyed me. He'll become a problem in the future.
I thought Byeong in will annoyed me, but he did a good political manneuver.
So exciting!!!

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This show is such a hoot! Thanks for the fun weecap @missvictrix!

Court Lady Choi relieves stress by shouting in the woods and looking at that special instrument from Qing *wink wink*

I'm warming up to Cheol-jeong now that he's not hostile to the queen. He said he doesn't see her as a woman, but that swoony music when he's watching her dance in the rain says something else. And of course it shifts to Blackpink from the queen's perspective lol.

Na In-woo fighting!!! Looking forward to Byeong-in and Cheol-jeong clashing and getting jealous of each other over the queen. He is cunning and ambitious all for the sake of So-yong since he had been refusing government positions but now angled for an appointment so he can be closer to her in the palace and protect her. Ah, swoon.

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Got trolled by the show when the camera follows Court Lady Choi going MIA on her own, was thinking oh please don't do anything nefarious... The shouting in the woods had me in stitches! How can someone who looks so strict be so adorable?

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I felt so bad when Bong-hwan cut a deal to stop her nagging and we can see how stressed she was trying to keep quiet through his shenanigans lol.

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The *only* thing that'd top this would be if she was meeting the Royal Cook for a secret date in the woods ^^

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Doing her own rendition of IU "nagging" Joseon style jaja

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Court Lady Choi is one of the many jewels of this show for sure.
She is so stern, but such a softie on the inside.
*until she finds her special item from the Qing Dynasty*
this show is such fun.

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If Kdramas are any indicator, the Choi family has a huge history of sending ladies to the palace that seem to always rise to top tier Court Lady positions. (Faith was another show that came to mind immediately, but there are others.)

Out of curiosity, I checked the head court lady in The King: Eternal Monarch because of the parallel universe aspect, and his head court lady is a Noh. Of course I then wondered if the writer deliberately chose a non Choi to support the parallel universe aspect.

So I then checked wiki, and apparently there are 180 clans of Choi. So maybe that fact that it's a common name than a singular family funneling women to the palace? (4.7% of the entire population of South Korean as of the 2015 census.)

I learn all sorts of trivia/history thanks to Kdramas and discussion forums like this. 😁

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Hand on heart, I think the only thing I knew for sure about Korean history before I started watching Kdramas is the Korean War happened in the 1950s. Bless the American education system! /s I definitely don't consider myself knowledgeable about Korean history, but I can solidly say there was the Three Kingdoms period (I'm fuzzy on the names of the three) and the Joseon period (dynasty? My brain is really fuzzy tonight) was hundreds of years, which beats way the hell out how long so, so, so many European dynasties lasted, except maybe the--no, the Romanovs only lasted 300 years. Yeah, European dynasties have no lasting power in comparison. ;) English history has been a longtime passion of mine, so I know just a bit about European royalty. ;p

Historical dramas (and historical fiction) are an excellent gateway into actual history. For me, the information I gain about the world of [period], the notables, the society, etc. is an invaluable 'starter set' to take with me as a point of reference when I dig into Real History.

There might have been a few families of Choi with the 'right stuff' sending their daughters to the Palace. Never underestimate snobbery and classism. xp Could also be the enormous number of clans. *shrugs* Could be a combination of snobbery and how common the name is. This is the stuff that keeps academic historical journals in print. XD

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For me, history wise I knew a little about the Korean War and "turtle boats" (though I did not know the inventor was Yi Sun-sin, or remembered their actual name, Geobukseon--just that they existed). I do remember thinking that the turtle boat was AWESOME, and was totally blown away later when I learned about how they came about to exist and the battles they won. My spouse is my equivalent with Jdrama/Anime. However, he does know exactly who I'm talking about when I say "It's another prince in a rice box show". (There are so many--even if it's the "in a well" version! ☺️)

Hand on heart honesty? I now know more about Korean history than I do my home country--as short as it is.

That reminds me, I do remember hearing once that an American told his students when he was teaching in Korea that he was an American History major. They all started laughing and one of them said, "How can that even be a major? Your country is only 200 years old!"

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Are the chances good or bad that we're ever going to see the queen possessing the chef's body in the present time? I like to at least see ten minutes of that perspective in humorous flashback if/when the chef body-swaps back.

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Man, I'd sell a kidney just to see that happen! :D

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We need to see if she is still alive as my hint is that what He envisioned in the club is his own imagination rather than reality,the posibility is that she is dead and his body is in coma so he maybe he cold return if he dies in the past...

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Is it a spoiler to mention a next episode preview? Apparently this gets addressed... maybe... from what little I can tell from the preview.

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Hmm,that is a tricky question,i guess it shouldn't as i consider the majority is watching the episodes jaja...I also saw it so i guess in upcoming episodes we might get some answers.

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Whenever I'm worried I'm mentioning a spoiler, I just write SPOILER ALERT FOR (show) before I write it. Then folks can choose to avert their eyes or not.

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Choi Jin-hyuk in Joseon sounds all kind of awesome! Am all eager for him and Cheoljong to team up, but seems they have a long way to go. (The No Touching "discussion" cracked me up so bad!) Which is sad because somehow, these two are pretty much alike, they are placed in a dire situation not of their choice, so what could be better than working together to find a safe way out?

Felt really bad for Cheoljong, seems like everybody sees him as a tool to further their own agenda. I get that his hyung wants him to focus on revenge, but he is pretty much insisting Cheoljong to alienate himself from his wife and be lonely on his own. Not to mention he also has his eyes on Jo Hwa-jin, who is looking less and less angelic with whatever secret she is keeping. Her "I only did it for the King" is starting to grate real bad.

So far still can't be sure whether So-yong lifelong dream is to be the queen, or to be the love of Cheoljong's life. If she has indeed been groomed to be the queen, she should be conversant in palace politics and not naive about any love between the king & queen. Have been wondering who gave her the intel on the meeting on the lake and whatever secret that cause her existentialism crisis. Did she have her own spy network? Or maybe she also went around as Lee Saeng-mang ><

That glimpse of Bong-hwan in a coma brings back the memory of Life on Mars T_T

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Poor Cheoljong right! I can’t wait to see when the ministers and Queen Grandma finds out that he’s smart.

About the hyung having his eyes on Hwa Jin, can we not have that plot please! I mean there’s already the love square of cousin guy-So Yong/dong hwan-King-Hwa Jin, do we really need another guy in the mix?

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The hyung has struck me as shady ever since Cheoljong started rethinking his stance on So Young and he kind of manically started insisting she was going to ruin everything. I mean, dude...chill a little.
And he felt even shadier this week, when he was almost mooning over Hwa Jin and made Cheoljong vow that he'd kill So Young himself if it looked like she was going to be in the way.
For my money, a) either he goes off the rails when he realises Cheoljong's falling for So Young and in some misguided loyalty to Hwa Jin tries to kill So Young or b) he does something heinous, realises he was wrong and sacrifices his life saving Cheoljong and/or So Young.
What I hope will happen is: He and Hwa Jin fall in love and run away together to be happily shady ever after somewhere else

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A bit worried for him because he seemed to lose his mask a bit when holding court... Yes, the lovelines are quite tangled up here, and we haven't even include Hong-yeon's ><
And @shinayame, am all for the "happily shady ever after" for my currently least favourite couple!

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Yeah, I definitely feel like both the brother and the courtesan are driven by personal motives so far. Whether she returns feelings on the possible crush the brother has? I haven't really seen that yet. I do feel that she think he's a "safe" person for her though.

So far, I feel like she does want the King (and likely the power that goes along with him), but I'm not sure if that's really her heart for the King, or family pressure to jockey for court power.

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hyung is good news.. that means the consort has a way out like in C-drama

King can set her free and she can happily be set free because she has someone to live her life with

All external romantic interests are good news :)

E.g. Queen's maid and that other noble guy whom queen made friends with when she went to brothel..

Pretty sure king will be very jealous of the maid once he realizes queen is a he inside :) .. and would want to marry maid off quickly

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This reminded me that I did have a horrible thought that they would have her pair with the brother just so she could produce a baby that she could say was an heir ahead of the Queen.

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Totally agree on the King's brother. His one dimension thinking annoys me so much that I feel like giving him a kimchi slap for just wasting screen time.

Also love love love Life on Mars!

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What if Bong Hwan and So Yong are the same soul? We haven’t seen So Yong acting in chef’s body yet, so for now I’m going to hold onto this theory.

What if Bong Hwan is the reincarnation of So Yong? In the future he fell into a pool and in the past she jumped into a lake. That created a unique moment of connection between two timelines. Bong Hwan’s head was bleeding while So Yong didn’t seem to be injured, so many the soul slipped into a less damage body in order to live on. I’d personally love the idea of them being the same soul as it’d be something a little new and exciting rather than old two souls swapping.

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seems like it.. Queen's soul is no where to be seen and bigger plot is if king falls in love with this queen, then drama cannot justify if being in love with original queen

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That is my guess too. Bong Hwan talked about reincarnation so the seeds are planted.

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o.m.g. you're right!.... I found the sudden talk about 'reincarnation' a little out-of-place....but if that's the case, then it totally fits! :O :O

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Now that's an idea.

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I hadn't even thought of this, but it makes sense.

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This drama just makes me laugh out loud so much! I'm therefore far more forgiving of the slightly-too-long-political-machination bits: the show has done well in not making it all too complex to follow, but there are still moments where I'm thinking, "Speed it along, please" (usually when Hwa-jin is on screen - such a shame). Bong-hwan imagining what So-yong would be up to in his body back in the 21st century was hysterical - Choi Jin-hyuk brings so much fun to this!

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I’m secretly hoping for Choi Jin-hyuk to show up in Joseon somehow

As a bodyguard!? Don't expect him as a zombie, but I'd take that too.

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I told that Choi Jin-hyuk's on-screen appearance will return at the final episode, but unfortunately, he returned to onscreen again(!) from episode 6 onwards. I hope I'll keeping my eye on Choi Jin-hyuk's comic on-and-off-and-on screen again until the final episode (alongside with offscreen voices to Queen Cheorin) and again as his comedic chef role and whatever his onscreen role aside from as a chef. Even his deepfaked, computerized face of CJH too as Queen Cheorin... sounds great VFX face.

Anyway, during the fifth episode, I loved the Queen Cheorin's twerk dance (if Ddu-Du Ddu-Du replaced from the funny traditional Korean music) and I knew that 130 years that twerk didn't exist until the invention during the 1990s I think.

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The twerking also meant that Bong Hwan in his original body is no stranger to twerking. I would love to see Choi Jin Hyuk twerk!

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Actually BH did tell the King about the body swap - in their first meeting iirc. But the King just thought he was crazy/ trying to create trouble lol.
Another great set of episodes. Some of the highlights for me -
- BH throwing it back to Blackpink
- Choi Sanggun screaming in the woods
- The "no touching" confusion
- "Today is our first day" - anybody else feel like the King was just trolling BH after a point lol
- Byeong-in vs. the King. Swoony cousin is swoony

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Yes about the "our first day", he repeated it so. many. times!

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Omg. Can y'all please explain that scene? Why was she against him saying "Today is our first day". What did that mean? Thanks

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In Korea, "first day" / "day 1" is used to refer to a couple's first day of dating.

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Ahh hahahahhahahaha love it!

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I think this is the first time I literally has NO idea where a sageuk is going (except for Moonlight Drawn by Clouds but that's a story for another time *cough*). With sageuk it's more often than not, at the 3rd or 4th episode we're getting the big picture (given a hint of the real history) but with this one I literally have no idea how they're gonna wrap up in the historical front AND the fictional front.

And honestly, I don't know if it's the character or if it's Seol In ah but I just.... can't with Hwajin hsgsgskjdhd it's like she has no idea what's she's doing or why.

SHIN HYESUN IS SOOOO AMAZING HERE!!!

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Also who thought that a sageuk will give you LITERAL Twerking Queen jdhdhhshshshshs

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That I Am The Best cracked me up so badly. It was hilarious. I am loving how Bong Hwan uses his presence of mind to navigate situations. The way he deals with the Grand Empress Dowager is something that deserves credit. Also the cousin is super swoony

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I think YG Studioplex promoting 2NE1 and Blackpink’s songs on episode 5 was brilliant!

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Can anybody help with the Lee Saeng-mang reference? I keep thinking there is an inside joke or parody there somewhere the way they keep emphasizing this name and I am just missing it since I dont speak Korean. Or maybe I am just reading too much from it?

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This useful slang is derived from “했어” (ee-bon-saeng-eun-mang-haesseo), which translates to “I’m done for this life”. It is used when one faces difficult situations and feels hopeless. For example, you’d use it after doing badly for an important exam or messing up at work. It is an exaggerated way of saying “I screwed up badly”.

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- interesting!

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Thank you ! Now I understand the comments made by the queen re the namein episode 5 better!

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Thanks for this, am also wondering much about why they keep repeating it. An apt alias for Bong-hwan...

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I didnt get it either...I think its more than just "I am done for" or "I am screwed badly".... :( :(

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I wouldn't be surprised if somebody admitting to this name somehow turns up to muddy the water in future episodes...

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I swear, I thought it was a character. Either a spy or the shaman lady, or somebody was called Lee Saeng Mang! :P Would be just the kind of comedy they are going for, to insert a character called that xD

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I can't wait to see the behind-the-scenes of this show..especially the one where everyone was crying over the queen's (fake) collapsed body 😂😂 I was laughing my ass off when everyone, including So-yong's father were just bawling off their eyes while Byung-in was very solemnly tearing up 😂😂 I felt so bad for him! 😂 It must've been so hard to keep a calm composure while everyone around were being comedic af😂😂
Also, can we all agree that Byung-in hands down won that staring competition?? ~swoon~

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When I say I hollered when he fake fainted, I had to pause the video I was laughing so hard. Shin Hye Sun bloody nailed it. She is so freaking good. I also laughed when she was dancing in the rain.

Now as much as I love Bong Hwan, I think we need to meet the Queen soon. This is apparently supposed to be a romance, so if the King falls in love, he would be falling in love with Bong Hwan.

That being said he recognized that if the Queen might be living her best life in his body and he didn't like that, but he doesn't seem to recognize that means he too can't live his best life in her body. It works both ways buddy.

Regardless, I am still enjoying the hell out of this drama, fish out of water indeed. I also think Kim Jung Hyun is doing a fabulous job, he is slightly overshadowed by Shin Hye Sun, not because he is doing badly but because she is honestly perfection.

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Also, when she fake-stabbed herself, and it went *poink* and she fell back because of the pain xD xD xD

I think SHS is killing it, because her character has more creative license towards interpretation, so her performance cannot be compared, because it's of a different league...but she is the standout, in any given frame or set of characters :D

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That is a good assessment. I totally agree.

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Doubt the Queen will be back,i hint she died in the lake and when the conection was made his soul slip in a empty vessel se left...He can't return because his body more likely is in coma.The king is supposed to fall for him not her.

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If what you say is true, this is supposed to be a romance, which implies two sides, it seems highly unlikely Bong Hwan will fall for the King. So it would be weird to bill this as a romance otherwise. Hmmmm

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The story is based of chinese drama Go Princess Go to say as i'm afraid to add spoilers but it's romance ...I'm also curious how much will they follow the original product in terms of key points.

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Go Princess Go is comedic gold. Well worth watching. It is cheesy but in a wonderful way.

This show has its own comedic gold. The Rain dance is hilarious.

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Well, he already thinks the King is cool ><

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If she came back to her body and ended up receiving the love of the king, it would feel very disingenuous. The king is now interested in "the queen" because of Bong-hwan's personality, not anything the original queen herself ever did. That sort of cop-out relationship would remind me of Oh My Ghostess... and not in a good way.

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The Queen here is mainly used as a tool for Bong-hwan story to name it so and nothing more...Her past actions more likely are important in the way Bong-hwan uses the info and tries to keep himself safe(while pretending to be her) while creating conflict for the plot.

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I totally agree, which is why I want to meet the Queen, but if it is as @miky88 says then she died. That makes me sad and kind of puts a damper on the shenanigans happening. Regardless, we shall see. Also Oh my Ghostess made me mad so....lol

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I guess we should keep it open as even if they follow a source material they have the liberty to change so maybe we will see her again,even if briefly.

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To me, the serious scenes are way more interesting, I love scheming in sageuks what can I say. I think KJH is underused, criminally so. Hopefully we will get to see him frequently not just here and there sprinkled in the episodes. When him and SHS are together, sparks are flying. The underwater scene was aesthetic! Too bad the arguing between BH and CJ after the big save was undercut with a joke. It was so intense until they cut the funny music in.

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I wish Cheoljong remained 'morally grey' for longer, and they didn't outrightly make him the 'hero' so early on, which he is clearly meant to be, as per the script...! I think KJH does well with these 'grey characters', something about the opaqueness of his eyes, you can't really read the expression in them, and that I believe is his talent as an actor!....

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Yeah, he was so damn good in Time.

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So so good! I thought about the drama while he was diving, I couldn't continue watching Time back then after the beach scene. Broke my heart.

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Hahaha, as much as I love KJH, I find Orabeoni cousin to be extremely swoony! <3 I am conflicted at this point, but so happy either way, the ship would be a homo end-game! :D

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Can we have a serious talk about the fact the The King is not even interested in having a physical relationship with his mistress. He literally had to be reminded, by her, what she was there for.

And that was a epic fail on her part because she thinks this is magically going to change things and he continue being a dimwit and only listen to her.

I am at such a loss as to why so may dudes are all over her like white rice on a paper plate in a snowstorm. She is so damn bland, hasn't been shown to be very smart and has nothing else going for her, not even loyalty to a childhood friend who literally but their life on the line for her. She literally just waited it out. That's it. At least Bong hwan admitted that he is only interested in her because she hates him.

Oh, and I totally believe that death is coming after Bong hwan's coma. He ain't going back to present day Seoul. He dead.

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Also feel like Hwa-jin as a character has been quite bland, maybe because there's no levity to be found in her scenes. Am expecting some when Bong-hwan was totally flirting her up, but it was just played straight, too bad.

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The Queen putting the moves on the concubine - surely the thought occurred to the creative team? Perhaps it’s in the pipeline for us...

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Seriously I can't love this drama more. Hope the ratings will go higher and higher (20%?)and it will be nominated for Baeksang best drama next year.
Choi Jin-hyuk again, Yay!
He is supposed to be just a special appearance but it seems like way more than that, which is absolutely great. His voice and the way he talks... 😍
This is not a web drama so I don't think it would go for BL.
Probably the king will accept that fact that a guy from the future is in queen's body eventually.
Shin Hye-sun rocks but I really think Kim Jung-hyun is doing a fantastic job too.

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I love Bong-hwan's interactions with Court Lady Choi and Hong Yeon. The way he cares for Hong Yeon is so cute - giving her the tip about buying real estate in Gangnam.

This show really knows how to do comedy and uses the element of surprise to really enhance it.

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I really hope we can get to see Hong-yeon's descendant (played by Hong-yeon) being a Gangnam real estate queen in the last episode...

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So much this!

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I wasn't going to watch this but my love for Shin Hye-Sun prevailed... and now I'm all caught up.

It actually isn't as gross as I expected? Honestly, I thought it would be more problematic. But aside from Bong-Hwan's bouts of gay panic and whole thing where the King kept insisting that they slept together (like yikes... love the implication that the male lead is a rapist), I've been enjoying the comedy for the most part.

Shin Hye-Sun is such a gem in this though. I'm so glad she has gotten the chance to showcase her comedic talents. And the way she's able to embody Bong-Hwan's mannerisms is so brilliant. Even when Bong-Hwan is successfully pretending to be So-Yong (like using the proper language, with the proper etiquette), his cockiness is a dead giveaway that this is Bong-Hwan-as-So-Yong.

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The underwater scene and by the lake are so so good and their chemistry makes me wanting for more. I dont mind if we get a few more eps of SY rejecting CJ tbh. and the way CJ bgm is all soft romantic and SY twerking to DDD? hilarious. The only complaint I have was tvn asia change DDD to some other music. That kill it a bit for me.. why tvn asia....???

Can I say that Byeongin is, for someone who gets into politic for SY is good at his new job? The political maneuvering with the other clan? He is bold and knows how to use his status. and I predict that King bro might becomes a problem in the future.

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Sadly, often times the music rights for dramas are only bought for domestic use, so international distributors (tvN Asis, Viki, Netflix, etc.) will have to replace the music with something else if they don't want to cough up more money for the rights.

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Me too! I didn't hear BP song. Huuft i watched via tvn asia so yeahhh l, sucks.
I agree though, the king's brother will be problematic.

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Omg!! I was waiting to hear blackpink (after seeing it mentioned before watching) and didn't hear any! I thought people were just referring to her moves xD
Well, no BP on viki explained 😅

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I've seen so many underwater scenes in so many dramas that I wonder who own the pool!

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This show keeps being so much fun!!!
Only drama I watched that makes me laugh out loud in a scene where everyone is crying!! XD

Shin Hye-sun is just so great!*
I love the King's scenes with her the most! In other scenes I can't really warm up to him as much, or feel the chemistry between him and Hwa-jin..for this week, another favourite scene of him was when they were deciding about appointing Byung-in to his new position and he sort of called out the ministers for basically working behind his back; I loved him there.

Also, I'm so glad the "lake filling/jumping in the lake" plot line is finally done..probably just because I knew that wouldn't work so easily, it was starting to get a bit repetitive..and it led to a great scene, with the underwater part and the following confrontation being a highlight of this week's eps imo, I'm happy about that!!

Can't wait for the next episodes!!! 😍

*SHS is amazing as the Queen, as Bong-hwan in the Queen's body, and as Bong-hwan in the Queen's body pretending to be a proper Queen! Nailing all 3 characters!! xD

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I’m loving this drama. CJH has an awesome voice and SHS is amazing. Their combo is the best!

The one thing I was worried about was that no one seems to care about Kim So-Young, especially JBH. He’s a tad uncaring of the consequences of his action on KSY. The scene where everyone was crying after the fake faint and JBH was trying to find the right timing to “wake up” was hilarious and sad. I felt bad for KSY’s dad, court lady Choi, HY and the swoons cousin. They really cared for KSY. I wish KSY had been allowed to leave the palace and marry KBI and live happily. She seems to have been a naive but well meaning person. I also wish that the show will focus a bit more of JBH’s concerns on the impact of his actions on KSY’s life. CJ and EB are boring together. it’s as if CJ thinks he should be in love with EB and acts the way he thinks a concerned person would around her. CJ comes alive only when he’s around JBH/KSY. Their interactions are electric.
At this point I want KSY and JBH to be happy, especially KSY. A crazy idea would be if KSY and JBH end up together. JBH learns about KSY by living as her and falls in love with her and takes her to the 21st century. 🤣🤣 I saw more chemistry in the small amount of time they were both together on screen when she kissed him in the water in episode 1 than all of EB and CJ scenes combined.

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When exactly dis So Yong mention the no touch rule? I can't seem to remember which episode. Did she really say the explanation to Choljeong?

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My family and I continue to enjoy this show and I too like that it could go in different directions.

I have heard that the Andong Kims were a nasty bunch but this show portrays them as not even caring much for each other. I wonder if this is true or just another example of artistic license? Please note that when the Grand Queen Dowager is threatening to kill our Queen Cheorin that is a threat from one Andong Kim to another.

This question has caused me to order a book on Korean History from our Library. Of course, if anyone has a suggestion for a good Korean History (In English) I would be grateful.

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Honestly, after I started watching Korean historicals, I turned to wiki. First it was specific to Kings in shows, then the various wars, then a broader range of famous people in the various eras of their history, and now I'm at the point where I'm trying to remember civil and court specific info like the class systems, families and so on. I've learned (and forgotten, hence a very full bookmark folder when I need a refresher) a lot since starting to watch KDramas.

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Shin Hye Sun deserves all the awards for her acting in this drama!
This is definitely one of the best shows on tv these days!
I love the idea of a buddy cop possibility!
and omg I need to see Choi Jin Hyuk in a sageuk again. He is absolutely adorable and handsome in the traditional clothes!

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I’m getting a bit impatient learning exactly what the relationship was between the Queen and the Consort before. I see the road we’re led down by the show, but I’m tired of waiting for confirmed truth in various matters.

They did an excellent job matching the King’s riding to check to see if the Queen tried to drown herself again sequence. The lighting is perfect so that he’d be arriving shortly after when we earlier saw her sneaking off to jump in when the sun has risen further.

The scene between the Queen and the Queen Dowager and immediately after was quite entertaining. It also was an excellent way to portray the outright paranoia everyone in the palace can have.

The apology letter bit between the King and the Queen's cousin was hilarious. “You might have to stay up all night...and your fingers will hurt.”

When I saw Court Lady Choi sneaking off to the bamboo forest, at first I thought she was actively looking for a shaman to help the Queen recover her memories. Then I started fretting that she’s a mole. When she started shouting to release her stress—my heart! Poor Court Lady Choi! (The actress has a solid voice for the singing bits.)

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The first part of Bong-hwan's remark that Superman becomes just a pervert that has his underwear on the outside if he comes in contact with kryptonite absolutely cracked me up. That's one way to put it. XD

The end of epi. 6 is like OMG!WTF!0_0 I WANT EPISODE 7 RIGHT NOW!

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