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Mr. Queen: Episodes 9-10 Open Thread

Things are getting complicated! Mr. Queen continues to use its body swap for maximum hijinks, and the more our hero loses himself in the queen, the more the mayhem. However, with the blending of identities also comes memories that reveal important information about the court politics.

 
EPISODES 9-10 WEECAP

This week signals the halfway point in our story, and though our trapped hero has come a long way in Joseon, we’re still very far away from any kind of answers about the actual body swap — or even what’s happening with the Bong-hwan that’s still in the present-day. Instead, our attention this week focuses on court politics, all preceded by some make out mayhem.

The kiss Cheoljong planted on a drunk/confused So-yong last week did not end with Byung-in walking in on them, horrified. Instead, things get hot fast. So hot, in fact, that So-yong’s father (who also stepped onto the scene) tiptoes away with Byung-in, letting the newlyweds do their thing.

Both Cheoljong and So-yong seem to be quite earnest as they make a racket knocking stuff over, lost in their moment. It’s so loud, in fact, that So-yong’s father and Byung-in can hear the ruckus outside. They agree to give the couple more space, and Byung-in sets the guard farther away. He’s got his handsome poker face going on, but it’s hard for him to completely hide his upsetness: Byung-in’s eyes are literally welled with tears in every single scene in this episode (and props to Na In-woo for getting so much emotion across just with his sad eyes).

But actually, this make out scene is not that straight-forward — this is Mr. Queen, after all. Before things get too far, Bong-hwan comes to his senses and goes on a rant about how the soul (Bong-hwan) should control the body (So-yong), and not the other way around. Then he/she spits out all of Cheoljong’s kisses. Similarly disrupting the scene we think we’re seeing, as soon as Cheoljong gets the chance, he gives So-yong a ninja chop to the neck, knocking her unconscious.

So, beyond the layer of genuine attraction that’s there (I think?), both parties also have ulterior and/or complicated motives, and that makes this scene part ruse, part fan service, and part confusion. Honestly, I still have no idea exactly what Mr. Queen is trying to do, or trying to say.

What I do know is that the more we get to know Cheoljong, the more we realize that everything he does seems to have two sides to it — for instance, the “puppet king” persona is just a part of his disguise. Similarly, this loud make out session also seems like it was cover to get everyone far away from the house, and to get So-yong down for the count, so he can continue his search for the mysterious ledger.

Indeed, everything that happens during the rest of the episode seems to be a consequence of Cheoljong’s time at the Kim residence. The well has brought back some painful memories for him, but he’s determined to face the trauma and go down there in search of the ledger. Props to Cheoljong here — his determination wins out over his fear and he plunges ahead, but in this case that means a terrifying panic attack that leaves him stranded at the bottom of the well.

This is where the memories, swiftly returning to Bong-hwan/So-yong, start to have an impact. So-yong remembers the pivotal scene from their childhood where Cheoljong was hiding for his life at the bottom of the same well, and So-yong begged her father to save him.

There’s so much action at the Kim residence, in fact, that when everything and everyone return to the palace, it seems almost anti-climactic. The plot drags a bit here, and that’s my main criticism of the drama overall, actually: it front-loads the excitement, putters for much of the middle section of each episode, and then amps up again before the episode closes.

It’s exactly that pattern we have this week, because our other important reveal is around the ledger: Hwa-jin is the one that has it. Thanks to So-yong’s returning memories, we learn that as girls, she and Hwa-jin looked very much alike and were often mistaken for each other. As such, the little girl that promised to save little Cheoljong from the well and the little girl that later helped him were not the same.

While this isn’t exactly the pinnacle of excitement, I do like that a drama about identity swaps/confusion is also exploring that theme in another way, with the two little girls being mistaken for each other. I’m sure there is more to uncover about the lookalike girls and their youth, but for now, it’s the ledger that’s the focus — who has it, who knows who has it, and who knows when it’s been taken.

Although we got some forward motion and new clues around the story of the court this week, I don’t feel that we’ve reached a very compelling halfway point. Personally, I’m more interested in the whys and hows of the body swap itself — and the interplay between Bong-hwan in real life and in So-yong’s body in Joseon. Without this part of the story, all we really have is a fusion sageuk with the gender swap thrown in for extra comedy and hijinks.

There’s so much great storytelling potential here, and so much to play with if the drama explores more about the two dimensions and storyline crossover — because the more we lose Bong-hwan in Joseon, the more color gets drained from the story. Bong-hwan himself called their body swap “the perfect cosplay,” and I for one would love to see that cosplay extend to all of the story’s dimensions — not only the royal kitchen.

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I enjoyed episodes 9-10 so much. Bonghwan/Soyong is smart and fun as usual. Though it getting stalled right now, Cheoljong gets gis time to shines more as he shows more of his emotions (Kim Jung Hyun is great as usual).
Though i hope they make HwaJin less typical female second lead in Sageuk. Seriously i miss women in princess man (Moon Chae Won and Hong So Hyun character).
Also Byeong In character please makes him more political, i mean he has a great motives and it will be fun for him to maneuvering his Andong Kim's family and unite with Cheoljong to protect Soyong/Bonghwan.
Though Puyang Jo clan is no saint either. There's still 10 eps more, so many things can happen. I mean Cheoljong will bring a new family right? bring it on show. just hopefully the political side will be meaty and interesting.
I miss grand and moving sageuk like princess man and Chuno.

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Mr. Queen used to be my to-go show before bedtime (good vibes for sleep), but I am laughing way too much now. Aside from Bong Hwan's/So Young's antics ofc, the royal chef and court lady choi meeting at the bamboo groves to scream out their frustrations is wayy tooo funny. And the kaleidoscope joke never gets tired! Haha! The Joseon version of adult 'zines? LOL.

I'm enjoying watching the king fall for the queen and So Young's affection for him. Bong Hwan's mortification! His enthusiasm for the choosing of the royal concubine! And finding a bunch of papers instead of the ladies! Hahaha! Lady Choi's face is just...

The Grand Queen Dowager having a piece of rice at the corner of her mouth! The equivalent of a face mask (beauty cover?)!

I continue to snooze at palace shenanigans and Hwa Jin and the creepy cousin tho.

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Go Princess Go belonged to Crystal Zhang and was purely about body swap hijinks and romance. When they decided to adapt it, they had to upgrade the Prince in the oringinal and give our puppet king Cheongi Cheongi Choljeongi something to flesh him out. There's very little to draw from original source material and you can tell it by the execution of overall palace politics plot point. The production team actually gambled and landed with two incredibly talented actors who are 🔥🔥🔥 when together hence you can mostly ignore everything else and have fun. I for one am loving tgis show. Yes, 9-10 didn't feel like transition point but they don't exactly need it. The strength is tgeir leads, just let them grace the screen 80% of time and it all will be well.

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Thanks for a great weecap @missvictrix! I very much agree with your point about pacing - yes, we're getting moments of real drama and fun, but a lot of sag in the middle. I'm becoming aware that my attention is wandering at points in the episodes and that's a shame.

I also agree that we could do with a lot more on the central Bong-hwan/So-yong dilemma - what's going on here? On the most basic level, what's BH's strategy now to try and return to his body? After several episodes of placing all his hopes in the lake, and that plan falling flat, he seems to have resigned himself to plodding along with the circumstances as they are. No other ideas *at all*, BH, to try and return? Really? Also, if SY's memories are coming back, where's *her* soul? Why isn't she rebelling against the situation? This, for me, is one of the most interesting ideas in the drama and it feels disappointing not to have it addressed much.

Still loving the hi-jinks between the king and queen (although I have no idea where we're going with it all): the moment when SY was about the touch the king's nose and then rolled across the floor when he woke up - hahahahahahahahahah! Loved it!

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I can't agree more.
I have so much fun with the show, but after the end of every episode all I keep thinking is "what's going to happen with BH?".
Now we have the princess' memories, feelings and voice so I just keep getting the feeling that she's coming back, but what does that mean to BH?
And let's just say that BH stays, then is he going to fall in love with the king because of SY's feelings (or his?) is he actually going to give him a prince (we all know sageuks, so we know that if he doesn't get's pregnant soon, he'll get in BIG trouble).
But not only that, if he stays, what about his family, his life in the modern world?

I don't know, I have so many qs about BH and SY, but I have this weird feeling that the writers don't give a damn about answering them.

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I think he'll fall in love only because of so young's feelings and not his :P I think in the end so young will return finally and BH will be back in the other world.. King would have fallen in love with So young and everything will be great for her :D

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I honestly went back to not knowing what they are gonna do and where they are takinh this story to. If I were confident the last time, maybe not so much now....

What I have always feared is that the main focus will get less intetesting once we get over the body swap hijinks and proceed to the political front which is sort of the taste we get this episode.... I still have faith in the drama creator but I also think we can name several dramas which 2nd half is confused, draggy, boring and uninteresting in contrast to its first half. But fingers-crossed 🤞

Maybe.... I love this one so much that I unconsciously keep getting my expectation up... But the whole behind story (that we know of, as of now) between Soyong x Hwajin is not exactly as juicy as I thought it would be... It doesn't feel like something that would make Soyong decided to drown herself instead of come clean to Cheoljong.

In one hand, I do want to see Soyong, so much, because she seems... So interesting...but on the other, getting back Soyong means having to focus on the political mess which is not exactly what I enjoy from this one...
I just really hope the 2nd half is at least half as good as the first one. Because honestly, I tend to undermine a drama just because how dissapointing the ending was (It's okay not to be okay....? Lol)

Also... WHY can't I see Byung-In as swoony? It's like whatever he does, it feels like he just wanted to show that he deserves Soyong and he has more power to Cheoljong, instead of you know, just do what the queen wants and protect her quietly?

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agree about Byeongin thats why his character come out as... selfish? annoying?
and i don't like the way he treats the king either. as much as he hates Cheoljong, he is still his King.

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"he is still his King".
I don't remember in wich scene it was, but BI was treating the king like crap and that's exactly what BH thought "bla bla bla, hate him or wtv but 'he is still his King'"
Everybody seems to realized that but him.
If this was another kind of sageuk, BI would be dead by now, everything he does/says seems like "treason", lol.

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I think BI started to think very less of Cheoljong when he discovered that Cheoljong tried to kill his beloved So Yong. I don't think BI cared much about Cheoljong before this.

So I think his attitude and hatred towards Cheoljong is justified based on Cheoljong's previous ill treatment to So Yong

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Moreover, BI is aware that he can get away with insulting the king because the king is powerless and BI is from the powerful Kim clan. BI is even the adopted son of the most powerful member of the Kim's clan.

Even despite it all, I think BI does not care less about the king's retribution because BI is an honestly upright character

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I totally get that, but "he's still the king".
I haven't seen a sageuk where someone talks to the king (even if the king is a jerk) the way BI does, specially in front of other people, and lives to tell the story.

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going by the same argument, sobong would have been dead by 1st episode lol

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At least Bong Hwan in on the queen's body. The queen's almost an equal, BI is technically a servant.

In a sageuk even when a servant breaths loudly they are like "I deserved to die, chonaaaaa". But BI says whatever he wants with such confidence that I can't even take him serious, I just keep thinking "how come this guy isn't in jail, dead or something".
His "I'm the boss" vibe (in front of the KING), makes me feel like I'm watching anything but a saguk.
BH's confidence is another story, since she-- he's the queen.
Heol, it's even funny. BH being the queen has gotten into more troubles than BI being... a guard? or wtv.

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Remember, BI KNOWS that he and the Queen saved the king’s life when he was a child. AND then sees the King despise BI’s sister the savior and “love” the Queen’s enemy. How else is BI to respond to this?

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yeah i know where he is come from, i understand he hates the king so much but he acts like he is equal or even above the King all the time seems unrealistic. because this is a sageuk drama after all.

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Guess it comes from the power he has as a back up something might be with intention or not...The truth is The King is weak and he sees him as that without much respect or anything adding the bitterness and somehow hate after finding out how he treated So young and wanting to kill her(when she pladed for his life when children) makes him all out coming out quite arrogant.If he was of a low status or more weak he would more reserved and keep to himself...In this side his father is the true dark hourse.

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Except that this King is weak, and the real power belongs to the Andong Kim clan, not the crown. The King, in this drama, is alive only because the real powers chose to have him as a figurehead, not because he has his own power.

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This reasoning is actually the last straw that make me okay with BI action till now. But BI definitely overstep his boundaries. Not just Cheoljeong's but the Queen as well. He missed his chance doing the right thing to protect So Young when she came to him crying before her marriage. The only thing he did was kissing her. That was his chance to find out what been weighing her and take action to help her. That was the time when he should do something to protect her. As of now, the queen never ask him to do anything to cause trouble for The King. She's not crying at him anymore. She can handle things on her own. She already said that she and The King come to a decision together to keep thing sus. BI just went on to the Queen Dowager to rattle about his enemy. He said he has a power. His power comes from the fraction that he himself despise. My point is, if he really wants to protect So Young, he could at least discuss with her whether that's what the Queen wants and need

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Agree with you 100 percent. If So Young comes back, it's going to be the atypical politics, nothing else. Also the background story wasn't juicy at all. And as you said, it isn't sufficient enough to suggest she was willing to die for it.
Also Byeong In, he kind of gets on my nerves. He was much better heart broken 2ML before he joined Uigeumbo. Now he stupidly tries to argue with the King and thinks he is higher than him in rank. His father, who is actually higher than the King doesn't show it that way either. That becomes rather annoying.

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Maybe it was only after she got to the palace that she realized that the king was the kid that her dad tried to kill? And that her family was involved in killing his family. And then couldn't bear to be used as a weapon to hurt him? I guess it was a matter of honor and integrity to her. She tried to behave badly and get rejected by the dowagers, but it didn't work.

I have trouble seeing Byung-in as swoony too. I find his younger, teen self more swoony in how he listened to young So-yong and helped her free young Cheol-jung. I guess he didn't seem as arrogant?

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The little girl that made the promise to save young CJ IS the little girl who saved with the help of the handsome cousin to boot.
Hwajin just took credit by standing there at the opportune time.

The kiss was hot and swoony but CJ is still using SY. No matter how swoonily he smiles at her or writes the Queen dictionary, I couldn’t get away from the fact that he kissed her to use her (which if it was the real SY would have been playing with her emotions) and assaulted her so he further his motives. Honestly, the court intrigues are boring with all the players taking themselves too seriously.

BH/SY’s attitude is awesome. He is kind to most of the folks he meets. He’s quick to pick up on things. It was interesting how his attitude towards SY’s father changed after SY’s memories came back.

At this point I will just watch BH/SY scheme his way to everyone’s heart with his k-food and k-beauty!

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this loud make out session also seems like it was cover to get everyone far away from the house, and to get So-yong down for the count, so he can continue his search for the mysterious ledger.

Nice catch! I didn't think of that. Now that makes Cheoljong to be such a schemer. It must be really draining living 24/7 like that.

Among other things that I love in this drama, I love how Bong Hwan has no qualms about running off to save his own skin while leaving Cheoljong to deal with the robbers on his own. That action is so true to Bong Hwan's character so far

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I also loved how BH came back to save CJ for the sake of history! And the outfit with the outer coat tied like a cape. 😂

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She looked like Joseon's version of superman with that cape

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Hum... the politics are taken a bigger place in the story, So-Young is influencing Bong-Hwan's actions.

It's kinda weird to watch the "romantics" scenes between the King and the Queen. So-Young is too nice with the King when he's still using her. Fortunately, Bong-Hwan is here to force the King to be more honest.

I think the King, the Queen and the cousin could make a good team together if they talk to each other and not hide things from each other.

I wonder how the writer could write 2 dramas in the same time : Joseon Exorcist and this one.

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I think that’s what I’m missing the last few episodes. In the scene where BH confronts CJ for poisoning him, BH forced CJ to see that no matter what reasons CJ came up with, that trying to murder SY was wrong and CJ was doing it because he could. BH also showed CJ that CJ was just like the Kim family - using SY for his own motives just because she was from the Kim family. BH made CJ confront his hypocrisy. The scene was powerful!
The last few episodes, BH is almost just comic relief. CJ’s actions are given a pass in a effort to make his quest noble. BH never confronted CJ for the kiss or why he was being possessive about SY to BI when he supposedly has no interest in SY.

I wish the writer will have more of the honest “come to Jesus” moments between SY/BH and CJ. Especially as BH has access to all of SY’s memories and surely knows how cold and selfish CJ was that led to SY attempting suicide. They need to resolve SY and CJ’s past.

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It think its mainly because BH doesn't intervine in anything and decided in his own bloody revenge as means to keep going as his hope of returning is low so he just keep a simple life outside of politics..Curious to see the trigger to make him join in and stop beying a bystander.

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Yes, at this point, BH's goal is to stay alive and maintain comfortable life in Joseon considering that he now has no viable means to return. That's why he's sucking up to Grand Queen Dowager so much 😄

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ya but his growing empathy as a woman is kinda complicating things for him.. he passes down his recipe down to the chef although it may not be in his interest to do so but liked that he thinks out of the box with the k-beauty to still achieve both ends

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I enjoy every moment the bickering royal couple are in the scene. I agree that they are the show. As long as they stay on the scene most of the time bickering and at odds with each other I will be watching them. 😊
I think I practically screenshot every scene they were in. Not sure which was my fave. But I think I am partial to the little smiles CJ gives whenever he thinks of his Queen.

I agree with the duality of each major character. Thats what makes it interesting. Plus makes one wonder how this show will resolve the body swap/time travel hijinks. BH may go back in the present briefly or permanently to resolve his story. But with the mixing of souls/personalities of BH and SY, does it mean that BH is SY's reincarnation? Will we get a female CJ at modern times?

I love how BH is enslaving the Dowager Queen's heart through kbeauty and comfort food. BH/SY maybe able to use that relationship for CJ's advantage.

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"I love how BH is enslaving the Dowager Queen's heart through kbeauty and comfort food. BH/SY maybe able to use that relationship for CJ's advantage."
Yes agree 1000%%
This storyline, and poor Court Lady Choi screaming in the bamboo, and then looking at her kaleidoscope are honestly some of the funniest parts of the show for me.
The court politics are so confusing for me. Thank goodness we have these stories thrown in.

Can you imagine shooting the scene where the queen used her tongue to get that rice off her lip?

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I love all the scenes where BH is interacting with the palace staff. It’s hilarious! Actually, BH scenes are awesome. Everything else is pretty boring for me.

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Have to admit I repeated the first 10 mins of ep 9 a few times before going on with the rest of the show, omo! So swoony, especially when they wound down when the spectators left and Cheoljong looked like he was asking, should I continue, and she complied and they start again *fans self*. And then the switch from hot to funny, with all the sound effect and self-slap and Cheoljong's face, gah, totally dying every time I remember those. And the giggles, wow, show is pretty much trolling Byung-in big time...

Can't believe that Cheoljong was unaffected enough to end the sexy time with that neck chop. Maybe because he thought it's alcohol-fueled. They are really amping up the romance for this week but I guess it will still take some time, although Bong-hwan's persistence in occupying himself with the concubines seems a tad like denial..?

So basically So-yong is the one who endanger yet also saved Cheoljong (with Byung-in's help..?), they were pretty much children put in a bad situation out of their control. Guess Hwa-jin lied to him that she was the girl in the well as well as her saviour and made things worse for herself. Have had enough with scheming and whispering behind, couldn't wait to see everybody come head to head next week.

Wondering whether Bong-hwan's introducing modern cooking method will change the culinary history ><

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I think Cheoljong is affected by the kiss but he's too determined by his cause (to get the ledger) that he would take any means to get So Yong to sleep/pass out. He probably do that to avoid the awkward confrontation with SoYong/BH about the kiss.

Cheoljong's strong determination for his greater cause is also shown when he choose to take in new concubines for political reason even though he's only interested in Hwa Jin and is well aware that by taking in concubines, Hwa Jin will be saddened. The scene where he decided to descend into the well despite his trauma also highlights this part of his cracter

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He sure seemed to enjoy it >< that's why am finding it surprising he can just dial down his emotions. But yea, guess he always has his mission in his mind. Also, finding it cute that he was quite resigned about being slapped, he must've believed he deserved it because he was kissing her with an ulterior motive.

Am liking how Hwa-jin point-blank asked him about falling in love with the queen (did we hear his answer..?). Kinda felt bad for her, but if she got his affection via (fake) gratitude, it's no wonder she felt insecure about it...

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He replied that he must not love the queen and she correctly latched on the "must not" which is worlds apart from "does not" (eep, swoon!)

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Yep, he enjoyed it and got ahead of himself. That's why he thinks he deserves the slap because he initiated the kiss when Bong Hwan had repeatedly told him not touching is allowed.

Cheoljong rather surprised me on how detached he can be when it comes to his political aspirations. Like Bong Hwan said, Cheoljong is truly a politician

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I look forward when SY cooks a meal for the King! hoping for this scene pls!

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Heol, ep 10 of Mr. Queen and I still don't know how to feel, what to think. It is such a funny show, but I just feel sad for our main lead.

BH is losing himself in SH's body, and I'm feeling pretty much the same. I mean, I still don't know if I should expect a nice BL kind of ending (I'm reading way too many webtoons I guess) or if I should wait for the princess return.

Bong Hwan-ah is getting that girl's life together, but what about his? Is he going to go back (to a world where the police is waiting for him) after all the feelings that are growing between him, the servants, the King? After fixing her life?

At least she should be doing the same helping him with the cops or something, in the modern world.
But all I see is a nice guy that just lost his body, feelings, internal monologue (voice)... well, he lost all his life. For what? Just to be in the middle of a weird love square and the tipical thrown-power-saguk war or wtv.

What I'm asking is, what's there for Bong Hwan-ah? I just don't want him to fix this "Joseon mess" so the princess comes back to her body and live a happy life that's based in BH's effort.

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Actually, the queen IS trying to find a way to encounter Bong Hwan ah's enemies ancient family so she can get rid of the bad guy that is causing problems in 2020. I don't see how that is possible at all, but heck, it could be....

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BH's trying to find his "enemies ancient family so she can get rid of the bad guy that is causing problems in 2020". SY is not on the picture. We have her memories, body and voice but not her actual soul.

For me she has been chilling for 10 episodes, while BH almost got killed becuse he got trapped in the middle of a war that has nothing to do with him. And everything he does is going to help SY when she comes back.
And BH will get stuck with all his problems, because the whole "family of my enemies" thing doesn't makes sense, so it won't work.

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im so surprised at how i hate Hwajin in episode 9-10. she isnt nice, she just pretending to be nice in front of the king. She knows if King realized its Soyoung who rescued him, she wont be a concubine rn. her victim mentality tho she really think everything is Queen's fault when it not? their relationship based on lie, of course its going to be broken sooner or later.
the best thing about this drama is how Bonghwan is so so fast picking up information and situation around her/him. im still not into the political thing and i still find Byeongin is annoying, so i watch this drama only for Bonghwan/Soyong and The King relationship.

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I burst out laughing when So Bong aka bong hwan/ So Yong slapped herself to reality, the comedic moments are so wack and least expected which is the charm of this drama.

This week or more so ep 10 missed a lot of the comedy that I enjoy but as we reach the halfway point I understand other plot lines need to take priority. Nevertheless I expect next week to crank up the romance and comedy because it’s the highlight of my week.

On a side note as a hardcore Kim Jung hyun *anti-fan* Hee Hee I was beyond elated to finally see an actual kiss between his co-star 😝 here’s to more smooches in the future!!

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I was also laughing at the queen asking for the king's preference for the Royal concubine: cute, sexy, innocent? Hahaha! That dictionary is too funny. The No Touch still has me in stitches.

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I absolutely love it! even jeongi jeongi cheoljeong 😂

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Shin Hye-Sun keeps being absolutely amazing, week after week, nothing new to add there!! <3

It's funny to me that the reason I got interested in the show initially was because I kept seeing promo stuff of it right after finishing my rewatch of FoS 1, and I was upset about poor Young Eun-soo; I just wanted to see a happier ending for SHS! xD
I never expected I'd end up loving the drama and all the cast so much, in the end!! ^^

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This part:

So, beyond the layer of genuine attraction that’s there (I think?), both parties also have ulterior and/or complicated motives,

and that makes this scene part ruse, part fan service, and part confusion. Honestly, I still have no idea exactly what Mr. Queen is trying to

do, or trying to say.

Totally agree!!! I loved the scene, both very funny and hot, but I don't understand how to take it?? CJ now seems to genuinely care about SY, more than he ever did before maybe, but how much is it about her well-being, and how much about needing her for his ulterior motives? He even said it to HJ, that he should not love the Queen. (He did not seem convinced at all there ahah)

Though he is definitely falling for her and her bizarre behavior, at least enough that writing that Queen's dictionary was his way to calm down after another one of his nightmares (adorable ><) ..but no matter how much he likes her now, it's still not enough for that make-out session to be more than a stunt to further his agenda, and get his hands on that ledger.
Sometimes I find it hard to grasp when CJ is acting and when he is sincere, when it comes to his interactions with with SY; like, he's neither his dumb/puppet King self, neither his "real" self, but somewhere in between!? It drives me crazy! xD
Props to Kim Jong-hyun (loving him a lot here)!! ahaha!

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Also, I think there is more we still don't know about the past of So-yong and Hwa-jin and their secrets; after all HJ alluded a few times to something regarding SY that would make the King even more upset; but maybe I'm remembering that wrong?
No matter how much I disliked HJ, I thought she had better reasons behind her hostility, more than just jealousy? We'll see, I guess.

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I think soYoung blamed herself for not keeping it a secret that CJ was in the well which led to her father and uncle seal the well in a effort to kill him. She was just a little girl. Though she convince BI to come help her open the well and eventually save CJ, she still feels responsible for the actions of her family. Looks like Hwajin took all the credit including erasing SoYoung’s name from the book and writing her name on top.

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Yup, that's what I was thinking too! Then for some reason I thought that CJ might know about that already (SY revealing he was in the well to her father), and that's why he was so hostile...but now thinking again, the reason he doesn't like her is more related to her family background? Not for something she did..
Bottom line, I'm still a bit confused xD

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HJ said that SY tried to kill CJ and I think it might be different from the well incident. iirc SY was surprised that HJ knows about the assasination attempt.

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Ah!! Right! I even saw a clip of that scene earlier, but without subs so I was not sure about the details of what HJ said!
So there is still something we don't know, after all..
Actually I feel like we don't know a lot of things yet! xD

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On another note, I honestly don't think we should expect any deep explanation about the body swap? It's just the premise of the show ahaha! (That's just me, maybe)
But it's true that the more we lose Bong-hwan, the less exciting the show might get. I like the balance for now (though I miss the voice-overs), I hope it'll stay like this for a bit longer..and also I wish we could see So-Bong work together with the Cheol-jong more, somehow? They can be buddies fighting the bad Kims and the corruption together, why not?? xD

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I also do not expect any back story there and even more stories re present BH, as I treated it as just the set-up for the "what-if" scenario. After all the actor was also supposedly just doing a cameo. So I am just enjoying this as it is and perhaps there is going to be a spin-off about him.

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Shin Hye Sun and Kim Jung Hyun have great chemistry, that was a long make-up session😏😘. I am in agreement though, I hope we find out the why of the body swap and why we don't hear the So Yong's voice like we heard Bong Hwan.

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Thank you missvictrix for the recap. I also had an issue with the backstory of the body swap. did they just abandon every thing. also all the innovation So Yong is bringing, hope it won't affect the timeline.

I love the explanation for the meaning of anti fan, the way the king took it to mean 'a spirit guide is so funny' . also how can So Yong be more excited about having a concubine than the king. so funny. I laughed at that scene.

Though I love this week's episode, it was fun to watch and all. still have an issue with the cousin. he is so bluntly rude, like dude that is the King. calm down!

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OMG what a show 😍
I’m having SHS ( shin hye sun) syndrome not SLS 😝 bcoz of this drama
I have started (re)watching every show of hers starting with forest of secret 1, angels mission last love , 17 but 30 etc
First time falling hard for girl crush
She deserves 🥰 ✊ Fighting

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Okay, I always start with the same saying.. I love this Drama.. seriously, its so much fun and I cant even imagine a painful ending for our couple because it would hurt too much. That being said lets deep dive into my takeaways from these episodes and some of the comments I have been reading.

First, I read that Cheoljong is stupid for not recognizing So Young or seeing Hwa Jin for what she is:
Umm no, CJ is most certainly not stupid, I have been seen that comment alot and its totally unfair to our male lead. First, he was a kid and second it was like pitch black out when So Young saved him. he was in a freaking well, so I am sure he couldn't see her face clearly and her and Hwa Jin looked alike and it was commented that Hwa Jin even dressed like So Young. Hwa Jin wears a mask, the fake So Young mask and she wears it so very well. This girl has been fooling people since she was a child but she has a deep resentment and even obsession with So Young that is borderline unnatural. Being So Youngs shadow is her deepest fear. I mean she basically encouraged So Young to commit suicide when they were CHILDREN. That is total psychopath tendencies, all while pretending to be So Youngs friend.. smh... I honestly don't think she loves the King , I think she loves the IDEA of having him and she desperately wants to take something from So Young.
As for So Young/Bongwhan, they are so blended I cant tell up from down or which pronouns to use at this point which is exactly what the writer is going for I think. They are most definitely playing with gender in this drama and its hard for me to see So Young as anything other than a woman despite Bongwhan soul being inside her ( which I think is exactly the point the director was trying to make). I dont even think our Mr. Queen knows which feelings are hers and which are his at this point, which is why he is so desperately trying to flirt with females and get concubines, to almost assure himself of his masculinity.
Next, I am hoping that our Mr. Queen finally gets to show off their cooking skills to the rest of the court. This drama continues to be funny, from the King Fan club, to anti fan, to the self slap, to rolling out bed like that and saying Good Morning.. ROFL I love love love this drama and its touching moments. I am rooting for our main couple and will post my theories in the next comment

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I forgot to mention in my last comment.. Whew that Kiss.. geesh.. that had to go up there to the top 10 K drama kisses of all time.. it was so hot I had to fan myself.. haha.. now lets get to my fun theories..

Theory 1 - Sad Theory
CJ and So Young will fall in love but will be killed by the Kim Clan or one of them will die. Either CJ or So Young ( sacrificing themselves for the other). I think So Young will abandon the Kim Clan except for a few members ( Byeong In and Kim Hwan). I dont like this theory.. so lets scratch that one.. it sucks

Theory 2
CJ and So Young work together to bring down the Kim Clan and restore order in the Kingdom but the Jo's will demand that So Young be deposed or the King finds out the truth about Bongwan and he goes back and the real Queen ( who I am guessing is dying or dead) passes away. I dont like that theory too much either.. its sad and it sucks..

Theory 3.. Okay get your popcorn.. Mr. Queen accepts his fate as being a vegetable in the future and decides to stay living as So Young. Mr. Queen abandons the Kim clan and helps CJ and they fall in love. Mr. Queen tells CJ the truth about being from the future and who he is and CJ after some struggle accepts this and So Young and Mr. Queen coexist as Queen Cheorin with that being said. Mr Queen retains all his memories of the future and not only help CJ become a strong King but he warns CJ about all the future events that will happen ( Japan invasion, wars, etc) and because they are forewarned they will be able to change history! Korea remains a intact monarchy thanks to our Mr. Queen. CJ and So Young go on to be parents and grandparents and ONE DAY ...ahaha this is the funny part the have a great grandson who is King of Korea and his name is Lee Gon and he can travel through time ( ref. KETM) ... and BAM BAM BAM that is how its done..😁😁😁😁😁😁😂😂😂😂🤣..... Obviously my favorite theory

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History (actual history) said CJ will die during his 13th year of reign and the queen will outlive him. The queen continues to upheld Andong Kim clan's agenda during and after his passing.

That being said, I don't know how this drama is going to tailor its ending around that because Cheorin must end up as the evil queen and CJ will die as incompetent puppet king. I look forward to see the writer's creativity here

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Yes, but I don’t think this will have to do with real stories. The production team has been pretty adamant about just using the names and this being historical fiction. I am thinking they will change the entire story

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I love the 3rd theory lol. Especially about Lee Gon 😄

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BI's acts don't come from a selfish place, I like him. He thinks that SY slept with CJ for her family and it pushed him to snitch on the king. I do think he has a plan and is smart enough to play his cards well. I understand why he doesn't respect CJ. He is not a typical King, BI fully knows he is a puppet who can't even protect his woman. He stood down but when he saw how CJ treats SY, his protective side kicked in. I am expecting him to end up helping CJ for SY by the end of this drama. I think his love is the opposite of HJ's.

I re-watched that kissing scene like 20 times.

I love that BH side eyed SY's dad for being a shitty person and I love that moment by the lake when CJ wanted his Queen to stay herself.

So who do we ship? Because I don't know if BH truly loves CJ or it is SY. In actuality probably both? I am totally on that BH/CJ ship because CJ fell in love with BH's personality but then it would be unfait towards BH to push someone's feelings on him.

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I like the cousin too. His motivations have been consistent and been about the well being of SoYoung. The dude stood guard for SY/CJ sexy times even though it broke his heart. Even as kids he helped SY to rescue CJ.

I saw a few comments about how he acts above the King but that’s the main sticking point for CJ that no one respects the King and that he’s a puppet king. So there is really reason for BI to respect him, especially when he knows CJ tried to kill SY.

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I felt quite sad for him when he was forced to stay outside...Curious if BH will also remember SY past with him and interact more as for now we get so very little interactions and mostly are cold impersonal ones...BI truly is also a sad character as his essance was good even when he grew up in such a household and he loved SY his whole life without a chance...I still stand by saying that he wouldn't have goten his hands in this Political Affairs and along the way i sense dirty spiriling if he knew SY was happy making his possible arc quite tragic...

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to think BI chose not to accept any govt positions ever before even if he was offered many times. the only time he volunteered to enter politics was when he thought SY life is endangered and he needs to protect her.

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I read somewhere else that Bong Hwan is experiencing something like “cell memory”. You know, a “heart transplant” trope where the recipient suddenly gain feelings, skills, and memories of the donor. The body remembers even though the original soul is gone.

I don’t know why we haven’t seen real So Yong at all except for flashbacks but for now it really looks like her soul is gone. Why didn’t she appear in her own body when Bong Hwan went briefly into his body when he was in a hospital?

Also if So Bong manages to take revenge on Mr Han’s ancestors (so he won’t be born), doesn’t it mean in the future Jang Bong Hwan will never fall into a pool and thus never slipping into So Yong’s body?

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I wonder if all of this relates to the “will to live”. BH wanted to live and still wants to live. Adult SY had lost her will to live. I wonder if the discussion between kid CJ and SY about the will to live is a call back. SY tells CJ to climb out of the well of he has the will to live so maybe the adult SY’s soul will only come out only if she finds her will to live.

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Good call - this would perhaps account for why we've not heard SY's soul voice. She's "asleep" until she finds the will to live.

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We haven't seen SY because she is just a tool for BH and well,plot...She as herself isin't important but her role is...I quite stand by she died that night in the lake and BH that had a greater desire to live took over her empty body...As he got accostomed more and accepted this body he got the memories and feelings of the body,like he got upgraded to say so...It's no wonder he feels lost,like he mentioned,where he starts BH and were SY ends...So he is kinda blending mixing and in some ways loosing his old self becoming this new person who isin't fully BH nor SY and we areseeing this journey and him accepting it and living that life.Quite curious about the end as well,those who watched Go Princess Go kinda know about it...

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Congratulations Bong-whan-ah~~🎉🎉...on your first Period! 🤣🤣
I just wish we had more scenes of his experience!!😁

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I was kinda wondering when we'll see that!The pain of us women!

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Well that make out scene was great!Just give me this two together and won't get bored at all..Gotta love Cheoljong making that Queen's Dictionary and even more when so naive using her strange words...Also Bong-hwan sure has a way of explaining what stuff means making him fail to understand,so funny...This week cemented that The Grand Queen is just a tamed puppet in the hands of the true mastermind Kim Jwa-Geun even more ironically when she mentiones this in her relation with So-Yong.It's also intresting how displeased he is when he hears Queen Sunwon wanting to see Byeong-In more and give him tasks.Quite curious if Queen Sunwon will side with the King and Queen when she finally finds out the real face of her younger brother and what he did all this time.Bong-Hwan relation with the Royal Chef Man-Bok is so heartwarming as well as Lady Choi & Hong Yeon.Also loving those bamboo forest epic moments and the parodies,curious if u guys know from what drama did Man Bok took the monologue,gave like Goblin or so vibes(aside from the lyrics of Some )...

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Am not sure about drama parody, but noticed that Man-bok was reciting the lyrics of the song Some (by Junggigo & Soyou) to Court Lady Choi ><

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Yeah,it's quite funny when u recognize this little inserts lol!

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I think real SY will come back once she saw her book and re-claim it.

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hopefully they also have this CJ monologue not only SY monologue. sometimes I cannot read CJ mind. just like the twilight book where there is Bella's perspective narration, and Edward's book where the perspective is in Edward's point of view.

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Most romantic line: "I am also your anti-fan".
Most romantic scene: Cheol-jung finding peace while writing down all the slang in the Queen's Dictionary.

This drama really knows how to bring on the LOL with the unexpected scenes and situations. I did not expect Bong-hwan to slap himself/So-yong after that kiss or robbing the unconscious thief (and then returning 1 coin) or getting a period or that Joseon SKINFOOD CF or Cheol-jung appearing in that concubine fantasy.

Grossed out by So-yong's dad. He tried to kill the king as a kid. Then marries his daughter off to him and is enjoying the status of royal in-law. Glad the ledger went missing.

I feel like all the young people just need to work together and shut down those old fogeys and their intrigue. I even feel a bit bad for the sour Hwa-jin. She really cared for her maid. And you've got that Dowager Queen lady manipulating her.

I like how Bong-hwan is inadvertently getting Court Lady Choi to care about Head Chef. I sort of want Bong-hwan to return to the present and mentor a Head Chef descendant.

I feel sad thinking that So-yong really did die like that without having resolved anything, so I really hope she can come back and see her beloved being safe when all this is over.

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That dream fantasy with Cheol-jung in it really came force all round biting Bong-hwan's statement that he would never appear in his dreams...Now i hope we'll get to see him falling in love but kinda of his own accord because right now he is quite swayed by the remenants of So young's emotions and memories...So-yong's dad is a horrible cowordly person who clearly followed Kim's orders...Now curious if his initial desire was to kill him in that well or just like he mentioned,inflict fear so he can use him at his will...Also that scene with the thief it game me the impresion those 2 coins on the hands were for safe passage to the afterlife meaning wise jjaja..I musts ay i'm a bit concerned mainly because of So Young being part of Kim Clan,if Cheol-jung indeed get's rid of them on treason etc wise she would more likely be added as well and be dethroned,exiled or even in danger of being sentenced to die along her dad etc. Doubt she will be safe once Kim are made traitors,the others won't let her have the Queen Position.Guess by then Our King will be faced with a very hard reality.

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Does anyone know what it is that Royal Chef gave to Court Lady Choi? It seemed precious to him but of course considered as trash by the lady. Being a chef I was assuming it was a rare ingredient or something.

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As someone who has absolutely no desire to see the other half of the body swap, I’m loving this show. No confusion from me on that first scene either - the King started the makeout session as a ploy to explain his presence, then both of them got REALLY into it, then Bong-hwa came to his senses. It’s extremely amusing, for me, to see Bong-hwa NOT react in some sort of gay-panic way; he’s not freaking out because he kissed a man, he’s both furious and curious that his 21st century hormones and the Queen’s Joseon hormones are getting mixed up.

More valuable to me than anything is this: Bong-hwa is a womanizer in modern times, but now he’s in the Queen’s body, it’s actually kind of cute that he seems to be a person led by his hormones rather than someone who collects women like trophies? In short, if Bong-hwa gets really turned on by the King, I don’t at all think that the fact he’s spiritually male would stop him from starting something. And that is not a level of interesting sexual awareness I did not expect from a kdrama.

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@oosiee you probably know this show got its inspiration from the C-drama Go Princess Go? And in that drama, they also depicted the Playboy- body-swapped-Queen getting her first period, and to stop it from flowing, he did a head-stand. It was a little crude but hilarious.

I must say this show is a lot more refined in portraying the manly-crude-gestures, probably as Shin Hye Sun commented in her latest interview on Soompi that she tried to portray the character in a manner that would not make the audience feel uncomfortable.

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