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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

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Cheat on Me, If You Can: We’re just past the mid-way point, but hey, I’m still here so there’s that. All the things I like best about the show are still here (mainly the sense of humor, Yeo-joo, Soo-ho) but the things I disliked are still the same. It breaks my Go Joon-loving heart to say this, but Woo-sung is as one-dimensional as a piece of paper. I don’t see any charm and I don’t fully get why Mi-rae would even be that interested in him. As for Mi-rae, I don’t quite get her. I don’t understand if she’s faking being meek, or if she’s actually meek, and I don’t understand why it’s such a big deal for her to be going to college. I don’t even care to learn more about her character and I suspect part of that is due to the one-dimensional acting skills of Yeonwoo. I’ve made it to the end of episode 9 but I’m going to hold off watching the next episode just so I can savor that ending and Yeo-joo’s actions. 

Run On: I love this show so much that words fail me. I also love every single possible combination of the main quartet.

Korean Pork Belly Rhapsody: Talk about a feast for the eyes! I hadn’t realized just how little I knew about the history of pork in Korea and all the different regional cooking methods. The show is so beautifully shot (and so clearly made with love) that it felt like I was right in the countryside with everyone and that I could almost smell the pork cooking. The only drawbacks were that I got an intense craving for samgyupsal and it made me miss the days when I could meet up with friends and family for a grilling extravaganza. Till it’s safe enough to venture out into the world, I’ll have to make do with vicariously watching group meals.

 

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Currently weecapping: Lovestruck in the City

True Beauty: Well, I was gonna avoid this one, but someone (*cough* @missvictrix *cough*) got me hooked on it. My main concern was that it would be another Gangnam Beauty, which I could not finish. The beauty themes pissed me off, and Cha Eun-woo failed to charm me. With True Beauty, the similar theme does bothers me, especially since “ugly” Joo-kyung resembles my high school self — but the bubbly, light tone helps a great deal. Joo-kyung is such an awesome heroine and just about the cutest thing ever. Even Cha Eun-woo as Soo-ho is pretty dang cute. After this week’s episodes, I’m hoping the couple can finally, finally be cute together. We’re only halfway through, though, so it can’t be that easy…

Mr. Queen: Like I said last week, I have no idea where this drama is going. I didn’t actually expect the king to develop feelings for So-yong/Bong-hwan — so, how the heck is this going to play out? I’m glad the two no longer view each other as enemies, but now, they’re in danger of falling into a very weird and complicated love triangle. My first instinct is to root for the king and So-yong, but I can’t when the wild personality he’s grown to like belongs to someone else.

Run On: Still loving this, but mainly for Im Shi-wan and Shin Se-kyung. I was frustrated with their blip in communication, but I guess that’s the point of the show, huh? Once their feelings are completely out there, it’ll be interesting to see if they can deepen their understanding in each other and work as a couple. The other characters, I honestly don’t care about; I find myself looking at my phone whenever they’re onscreen. And that’s the tea.

 

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Currently weecapping: Mr. Queen, True Beauty

Run On: This show just keeps getting better! And it’s so well-paced, giving us just enough motion, and just enough introspection. I love how much of the focus is on how the characters relate and communicate with each other, and I found Mi-joo and Sun-kyum’s miscommunication to be particularly interesting and true to life. As much as I love our lead couple, our second leads were super duper charming this week too — gah, they’re so good together, whether it’s Young-hwa’s playful flirting, or the way Dan-ah comes alive with a soccer ball at her feet. I also really enjoyed the moment between Sun-kyum and his mother. Thanks to thoughtful scenes like this, the drama feels so full and purposeful. I think the only critique I can possibly offer is that I would like to see more of Eun-bi — she’s so cool, and I love every interaction with her and her brother. But then again, every character interaction in this drama is interesting — that’s definitely its strength.

 

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Eighteen Again: I’m just here to report that I’m officially in love with Lee Do-hyun and I’m sad that I’m late to the club. This was such a beautiful show with the sweetest characters ever — Da-jung and Dae-young deserve the world and more. I was a complete sobbing mess when Woo-young signed after that basketball game and promptly texted all my friends to make them binge the show. I’m already missing our teenaged ahjusshi!

True Beauty: Loving the endless stream of Extraordinary You cameos and I continue to be mesmerized by Hwang In-yub’s on-screen presence.

 
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Kishibe Rohan wa Ugokanai - I have no prior knowledge about the original manga and I only checked the jdrama adaptation because of Takahashi Issei. He is brilliant as the eccentric manga writer with a special supernatural ability. And I also think that he and Iioyo Marie have a very nice dynamic (she plays Rohan's bubbly editor). The first episode, Millionaire Village, was great and I was excited for the next two episodes... which sadly were not as great. I guess I expected more depth (and punch).

Run On on the other hand is still great. Even after 8 episodes. I was especially touched by the scene in the hospital - Mijoo's exhaustion and complaining... and Sunkym's understanding and then entertaining the elderly ladies...

Cheorin - there were some boring and some random parts (like the shooting drill)...but then they wake the Queen up and bring the hilarity back and I'm laughing sooo much! Tango 😂

Cheat On Me - still funny and I still don't know where we are heading to. (And I'm still shipping Agent with Writernim).

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Yes, ep7 of Mr. Queen was a boredom...sigh.

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Run On (Episode 7-8) - Mood: A-
Although I still take more than 1 hour to finish watching 1 hour of this show, I find that there is always a moment where I go ‘ah this is the plot device of the week’. We got the first serious dialogue of Dan Ah’s father which leans into the trope of lame family drama, unfortunately with Idol Star as collateral damage. Is Dan Ah being unnecessarily harsh on him? It isn’t very clear in my opinion even if she’s judging him by association because she has her own emotional baggage and desires her own solo time, regardless of the fact that she is not in want of money or status unlike the other three leads.

On another note, the show has certainly not been afraid of exploring the LGBT angle with the dialogue, though I remain cautiously optimistic that we’ll even get an actual plot element on it (much less a nuanced one at that) since this is still a Korean drama airing on television. The signs are certainly there with the Yeong Hwa’s friend repeatedly coming to his house drunk being the most obvious one but I wonder if the writer has more surprises for us. For instance, Young Il with the photo? Common predictions have Sun Gyum becoming his agent but this show has been nothing short of expected.

Mr. Queen (Episode 7-8) - Mood: C+
It’s the episode 8 kiss with the second lead staring on aghast as per the classic drama convention! I do have 1 question though after the second time travel: where did the soul of the real So Yong disappear to after kissing Bong Hwan in the lake? I find it paramount that the writer answers this question soon because Bong Hwan does have unfinished business in the modern world to wrap up and frankly speaking any sort of soul-merging development is a cop-out on the writer’s part since the King fell in love with Bong Hwan. Maybe the childhood connection trope could help to reinforce the OTP?

The Uncanny Counter (Episode 9-10) - Mood: C
Despite it not being outright stated, I have faith that Wigen expelled So Mun not just for herself but also for him: he was in dire need of a lesson in controlling his emotions which continue to lead him astray (really, why expose yourself to the Mayor powerless). For all their omniscience, it is funny that Yung didn’t notice that So Mun’s memory is still intact when they had threatened Ha Na to remove it. Speaking of a fake out, if Sugar Daddy has special powers, then where did his counterpart spirit go? Writer, please don’t let that be a plot hole. Production even hired a kid for Ha Na with like 5 lines!

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Cheat on Me, If You Can (Episode 9-10) - Mood: C+, I don’t see any purpose for Mi Rae’s character at all.
True Beauty (Episode 7-8) - Mood: D+, Not sure I agree with that interpretation of Familiar Wife.
Awaken (Episode 11-12) - Mood: D, Jamie is a damsel again and somehow everyone turns up on the island?

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What do you mean by "interpretation of Familiar Wife"? Just asking, because I don't know.

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They had a scene where Seo Jun's family was watching Familiar Wife on the television where the two male leads were brawling over the female lead. Mom and sister were meta-commenting on the love triangle in the show and how the 2nd male lead was a jerk for beating his friend the 1st male lead which of course causes Seo Jun to overreact since he's the 2nd male lead in True Beauty and is also fighting with Soo Ho, his frenemy, over Joo Kyung.

The issue with that is that Familiar Wife is actually a very different story from the usual love triangle, since (to summarise that show here) the 1st Male Lead gets sick of his wife, 1st Female Lead, and time travels back willingly to create a parallel universe where he actually marries the 2nd Female Lead. His friend, the 2nd Male Lead, catches on feelings for the 1st Female Lead in this universe (ironically because of the butterfly effect of the 1st Male Lead's actions) but is always thwarted by the 1st Male Lead who eventually regrets his decisions. From the 2nd Male Lead's perspective in the parallel universe, he doesn't even understand why the married 1st Male Lead (to the 2nd Female Lead) is hitting on his crush, unaware of their history (only the 1st Male Lead carried his memories into the parallel universe).

So it's kind of understandable that 2nd Male Lead eventually loses patience with his friend, 1st Male Lead, and punches him: in True Beauty, they don't even acknowledge this nuance and Seo Jun even fires off the 'Falling in love isn't a crime!' cliche line that isn't even relevant, since the 2nd Male Lead was more angry about the friendship betrayal of the 1st Male Lead rather than love, totally unlike the hormone-driven (to put it crudely) battle between Soo Ho and Seo Jun for Joo Kyung.

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Oh I see, thank you for clarifying that. I've never seen Familiar Wife, so I didn't understand their reference of show.

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CRICKET -

New Zealand is at 1st place n Test Cricket for the 1st time ever. I was waiting for the official ranking to be up this week and yes yes yes
History is made.

Kane Williamson is at 1st place as Test Cricket Batsman. Yes yes yes

and what a start for Jamieson.

Sri lanka Vs. South Africa - so many injured srilankan players and no contest between teams. One sided test series.

India Vs. Australia - All the spice and entertainment is in this test series. 2 teams that always invite some controversy whenever match up in Australia, much thanks to Australian media.
2nd test was awesome and so was 1st 2 days of 3rd test but India has the same problem of so many injured players but still contest is on and i'm quite invested here.

Test Cricket takes much of your time and you are left with no time for other media.

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Japan - busy busy busy

2021 - less time on fictional visual media and print media more time on print media of substance and value aka - political+stock market related books.

Korean 1st few months with - heroine in action? does it even suit this actress? trailers didn't ignite much enthusiasm and looked cheap copy-paste from hollywood sci-fi movies.
wannabe john wick being a driver - meh.
sunbae - hoobae romance - meh
hero-heroine melodrama of old times - meh
Darwin - meh

PPL on - 4.5/10 - another overhyped drama. started to drag a lot from 3rd week and 4th week was horrible. Good part is PPL and dan-ah. Bad parts are now with heroine and to some degree with hero. 2nd lead is doing toothpaste/brush ppl good. The story was generic to begin with but writer had way with words to capture the interest but how long that can hold the miserable material. Writer intentionally is tinging at this and that to create the excuse of "look how diverse my characters are". But all of it comes of as too fake and forced. That's why i said this show is very similar to Be Melodramatic. Writers on high horse, thinking they are somewhat better than others but are no way different.

Shut Up - Politicians and even wealthy businessmen and even well known analysts have once in while opinions, short columns. They are mostly written, edited by professionals, just name of these well known personalities is added. Mostly done by politicians - to create the image. The show could have spend some time exploring this. simple. 4th week and the show has no idea where to move and what to do. Pathetic writing.

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I’m loving the test cricket at the moment. Kane Williamson is so good.

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Third Test....What a drama I mean draw

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Run-On: Not much movement this week but some really good character interaction. The ending of Episode 8 was more romantic to me than any kiss scene. Unlike many k-drama couples, I feel like I understand what Seon-gyeom and Mi-joo like about each and why they would be good together. I loved their fight. Emotion vs. logic. I like how Young-hwa treats Seon-gyeong and Mi-joo like old friends. One scene and I just want Dan-ah to give Tae-woong some love.

Mr. Queen: Episodes 7 was a drag until Bong-hwan woke up. Episode 8 was better but the series kind of lost some of its charm for me. It was feeling like a 20 episode drama with the dumb Hwan scenes. Hwa-jin plotting while playing victim was as predictable as it was boring. Byeong In's obsession with So-yong was as predictable as it was boring. Not sold on romance but we'll see.

Lovestruck in the City: It was nice seeing more of the other characters. The main couple continue to be boring but also kind of toxic. Did the producers of this mockumentary purposely pick four friends and two ex romantic partners or is this the coincidence to end all coincidences? I still don't understand Eun-oh's reasons for not returning the cameras.

Uncanny Counter: So Moon putting himself and others at risk was frustrating me, so I'm glad there were consequences. Otherwise, I don't have much to say.

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It is a 20 episodes drama 😁

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I know :) That's just the first time I felt like they were trying to fill 20 episodes.

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Run On: It was heartbreaking to see TaeWoong saying that he follows DanAh because at least she hates him and that makes her not indifferent to him, and then DanAh saying that it was a pity he had been born in their family. I like the way this drama deals with the different ways loneliness can appear in your life, and I also wish DanAh turned to comfort TaeWoong instead of rejecting him. But we also learned why she hates so much his other brother: they were born only 10 months apart, making clear Chairman Seo cheated on his wife (DanAh's mum) and then marrying her after she died (we don't know when that happened). No wonder she also feels that lonely.

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Not only that, the father basically stripped her birthright as oldest child from her. Everyone knows her mean brother as the oldest child/the heir while she is known as the second child. Also given how koreans are about respect and age, she has to treat her younger brother as an older brother.

Seeing how happy Tae-woong was when the oldest brother said something to him was heartbreaking. I feel like Tae-woong and Young-hwa could potentially get along if Tae-woong wasn't so clingy with Dan-ah.

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@selena I was hit with the same wave of Lee Do-hyun love -- and now wishing I hadn't binged his entire filmography in one week. 😭 *impatiently waits for updates on Youth of May*

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'People unexpectedly blown away by LDH's acting range', please raise your hands! 🙌This man deserves all the love and hype. Hope he continues to select amazing projects, and fewer ones in which he dies. *I'm not ready to watch Do Hyun's character die AGAIN, in youth of may*.... (a plot on Gwangju Uprising, with 2000+ death toll) 😭😭😭💔
At this rate, he might become the next Sean Bean of k-dramaland....either dies, or disappears. Both ways, doomed. 🙈
I will watch this man try to sell me a pack of garbage-bags, if required. 😜Between him and KSH (and his dimples)💖, my YT feed is flooded. Not complaining one bit though! 😍

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Glad you mentioned dimples..otherwise I would've taken KSH for Kim Soo-Hyun 😁

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I need KSH and his dimples on my screen RIGHT NOW 😍😭

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"he might become the next Sean Bean of k-dramaland" 🤣🤣🤣

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@sailorjumun @selena I want to hop on this train~~~

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Do eeeet! Hop hop hop! 🐇

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@missvictrix JOIN USSSSS

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@sailorjumun At the time of writing last week's WWW, I had only watched one episode of Eighteen Again. Every episode I watched this week I just thought about your blurb as I also ugly cried LOL.

I'm going to start Sweet Home next, but I can't wait for Youth of May either! I foresee so many tears in our future haha

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Penthouse: I'm still holding out hope that Shim Soo-ryeon is alive. Even if Lee Ji-ah is in Season 2 as her doppelgänger, the butterfly tattoo twins' birth mom, she's not Soo-ryeon. Her character is the reason why I love this drama. Before Joo Dan-tae stabbed her, could she have taken potassium to momentarily stop her heart beating like how she and Secretary Yoon faked Joo Hye-in's death?

Oh Yoon-hee is even less dead than Soo-ryeon, since this was not the first time her neck had been sliced. I still wish Min Seol-a's killer would be a twist because we already saw Yoon-hee attempt to kill Seol-a and be accused by the school, but Soo-ryeon's pinky promise to forgive Yoon-hee no matter what she does was foreshadowing.

None of them have been redeemed, but I surprisingly cried for characters I hate: Cheon Seo-jin when she held back her tears on the phone while her voice cracked was so relatable; Ha Eun-byul when the police arrested Ha Yoon-cheol, and she broke down and cried, "Appa!" Her dad was the only person she had between her suicidal thoughts; the twins when they saw Soo-ryeon's body and cried, "Eomma!" while being held back by the police; Bae Ro-na and Yoon-hee when the detectives put Yoon-hee in the police van and Ro-na sobbed, "Mom, look at me" while running after it; and Yoo Jennie, who is the kid I hate the most, but I sobbed as soon as she opened her door with the bag of food in her hand because I knew Jennie was giving it to Ro-na.

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Is there any info on when the next part will air?

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Season 2 airs on January 29 after Fly Dragon/ Delayed Justice.

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Awaken: I don't understand how either of the two men arrived on the Island. Why did no one notice them? What is Jaime Leighton's power? How come she only got trauma issues, but the boys are GENIUSES.😑😒

Cheat on me if you can: Mi Rae is the simply the catalyst for Yeo Joo realizing her husband is cheating trash. Her character has the charisma of a wooden spoon, baffling. I too am only watching for Yeo Joo and Director Ma.😏

Lovestruck in the City: I really enjoy this show, the format, and even the couples. I actually think JCW is doing a good job here, because he is almost utterly unlikeable, what a whiner. I want to meet the real Eun O and not just the glimpses of her life.

Mr. Queen: LOVE IT. Shin Hye Sun shining and brilliant. Honestly there isn't much to say.

Uncanny Counter: OOOOOOOO plot twist, lessons learned. So Mun deserved to have his powers stripped, but I am glad he seems to be learning his lesson.

Run On: I will be binging six eps with my friend, I am excited.

Extracurricular: What a ride. Those characters are so sad!! Also Choi Min Soo, back to being my ahjusshi crush. We won't talk about the previous project that killed that particulat fire.

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Awaken: I've been thinking about Jamie. You are right that apart from being super intelligent, she doesn't have the superpowers both JungWoo or JaeWoong have. My guess is this: she doesn't (still) have them because she can't remember. The boys do remember (the two JW and MinJae, the other boy who now works for the Foundation) whatever happened in the past but she's only starting to remember now. Will she develop any exceptional power now?
I also have some questions about JaeWoong: when he was the shy guy was because he has a real personality disorder or was it the "bad" JW decided to create that personality in order to bond with Jamie. Shy JW seemed genuinely bonded to her, and bad JW didn't know they knew each other until he woke up in the police station... but I still don't know.
How did they arrive to the island in the middle of the night, when Jamie and journalist Lee took so long to find a boat to take them to the island? Well, this is dramaland... either they convinced someone to take them there or they took a boat by themselves and sailed there. I don't think we are getting any answer, tbh.

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The mob guy doesn't look to have special power neither. Jamie is very smart and has a high QI. I guess she's special but she developed a lot of OCDs because of the loss of her memories.

DJW said he didn't want to have the brain surgery because he wasn't ready to loose something. He needs his special abilities to catch the villains but I guess the surgery would have changed it.

For the boat... Jamie and the reporter asked for it because they're polite and I guess the others didn't. Driving a boat is not complicated and they know the destination.

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This makes sense.

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Perhaps Jamie was not subjected to the experiments in the way the others were. I have a feeling her presence on the island as a child was for another reason - perhaps she belonged to one of the medical people. Just wondering ...

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I hadn't thought of that and I guess they would also need a control group too.

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Extracurricular: Samchon is awesome 😍 (and me thinking I was a weirdo, I'm happy that I'm not the only one crushing on this ahjussi 😉)

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Nope, hehe.😅😏

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I love him since Warrior Baek Dong So. The villains were far more interesting than the good ones!

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You are certainly not.

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'True Beauty'. I was under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that the series was lightly playing with cringeworthy old K-drama tropes. After episode 5 I'm not so sure they're 'playing with' so much as following them unironically so I'm hesitating.

'Cheat On Me' has bigger stars but I miss the cleverly written outrageousness of 'My Dangerous Wife'. which got laergely ignored here.

'Uncanny Counter', strangely enough, seems to be turning into 'Into The Ring' with superheroes, inasmuch as its now about corrupt local government and shady businessmen.

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Ditto with your observation on The Uncanny Counter. Haha! The reason why I had to pause Into the Ring is because I'm getting confused which corrupt politician is which.

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The Uncanny Counter. Shin is scary. A lot. And so are the rest of the baddies. It’s a bit overwhelming how baddies are always getting their way and our counters can’t do much to end them. I don’t trust the Yung spirits, although I get WiGen not wanting Mun around because he almost killed her more than once. This said… if they are spirits, can they die forever? It seems they are there waiting to reincarnate. And also, WiGen was anxious when her previous counter died, and she needed another one asap and that’s why she found Mun, but know she’s been through a list, made interviews to candidates and is not anxious at all about not having a counter… is it because she decided to end the contract or because back then she was weak because her counter suddenly died or it is just a plot hole?

Awaken. Well, it’s slowed down and now we have revenge coming! This drama is so filled with tropes, but I’m liking it. Also Kim Chang Wan is an amazing actor: one minute is an adorable dad and the next minute he talks with total indifference about experimenting with children and them dying because it’s needed. He is really scary.

Run On Well our OTP decided to go round and round instead of accepting and confessing openly how fond they are of each other. Even so, I loved how SeonGyeom looked after MiJoo in the hospital (the way he dealt with the ahjummas was just adorable and so in character). I may have a complain about how we are on episode 8 and we don’t know what most of the characters are there for, but I will not complain at all. Why? Because I love the drama and I the OTP is adorable, and because I love how the drama is dealing with important issues as loneliness and how people lead with it. I found specially heartbreaking TaeWoong confession to DanAh, that he follows her around because at least she hates him. Poor kid.

Lovestruck in the city.I keep repeating myself: the main couple is boring and their love story is based on a lie. I love the camera interactions and I ADORE Seong Yeong.

I finished Because this is my first life and I liked it a lot, I wasn’t disappointed by the ending at all. Was the separation needless? To me yes, but not to JiHo. The drama divided my heart between the moments it was broken for JiHo, it was squeeing for her. I wanted to cry of pain and laugh of joy at the same time. Not many dramas can play with your emotions this way.

Persona. I had wanted to watch this for a long time and I finally did. I liked the four stories. My favourite was the last one. I liked the atmosphere, and IU is fantastic, as always.

I continue watching Six Flying Dragons and I hope I can finish this week. Since we’re in Joseon things are getting much better (neoconfucionism have lowered to the minimum and it’s not exhausting watching two episodes in a row). Yoo Ah In is one of the best actors I’ve ever seen in my life.

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Ditto on your reactions at BTIMFL... I was super sad and conflicted on behalf of JiHo, because the sunny girl we saw in ep1 increasingly became depressed-looking at SeHee's constant whiplash behavior, to the point where I didn't know if I wanted to root for them to end up together! 🙄

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JiHo was never really the sunny girl of ep01, we just hadn't seen enough to know at that point. In BTIMFL, what we see in each episode is only a tiny window and it recontextualised in latter episodes as the frame moves wider and we see more.

Laying it at SH when the drama uses such a structure is no different than wishing Ho-Rang and Won-Seok would be the happy couple of ep01 rather than really a couple that were breaking up - or missing the slightly awkward SeHee from Ep01 rather than the emotional damaged of latter episodes, because of the manipulation of JiHo.

BTIMFL itself set the structure and it beautifully plays with our expectations even though we know the rule.

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I never saw Six Flying Dragons before. I just know its a long sageuk during the Goryeo-Joseon timeframe, and I know most of the actors. But...is it good? Is it worth watching?

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I'm not really into saeguks, and I'm loving it.
It's 50 eps, and the politics can be really exhausting. I get through it with the help of this link that provides information both about the real History and the plot (so, so, so helpful): https://bodashiri.tumblr.com/post/137740642551/the-list-of-sfd-historical-info
It's really good, but you need to commit to such a long drama, and from episode 22 (more or less) to 37 it gets really dense with all the philosophical and political debates.
But the acting (even if it's a bit old school) is really good and if you are not in love with Yoo Ah In acting, you will definitely fall.

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts. There was a time where I watched long sageuks (Queen Seon Deok, Yi San, Jumong, Dong Yi), but it was also aroound a time where they made long sageuks. For some reason, they stopped producing them, and perhaps, Six Flying Dragons must be one of the last long sageuks released in the last years. I will watch it for sure, since many people like it. But since its long, I will only watch it when I have nothing else to see (nothing I will want to see). Thanks :)

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Hehe, I often have nothing else to watch so I catch up on older sageuks. This is my go-to encyclopedia of sageuks, which you might also find useful: https://thetalkingcupboard.com/resources/sageuk-timeline/

That said, there are a few upcoming sageuks starting in February, so you might want to save some time on your schedule! :D

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@WishfulToki Ohhh I know that website, but I often forget it exists 😶 thank you for reminding me of it ;)
Besides River, which other sageuks are coming out?

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@kathia I know @marcusnyc20 is keeping track of all the upcoming sageuks but I can't seem to find that post! I remember that JOSEON EXORCIST is airing soon, and RED SKY later this year.

I'm currently watching SECRET ROYAL INSPECTOR, which has been an easy and entertaining watch so far.

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@kathia and @wishfultoki,
Here is what I see for upcoming sageuks in 2021 with ML. The airing time I am getting from MDL:
1.KBS's RIVER WHERE THE MOON RISES (Ji Soo) (Feb. 15-) (Viki-US). Yes! RIVER appeared on Viki's "Coming Soon" list today;
2. SBS's JOSEON EXORCIST. (Jang Dong-joon) (Mar. 15-);
3. SBS's RED SKY/HONG CHUN GI
(Ahn Hyo-seop. (Airing-?) I found a teaser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvhDCY74dr8
4. MBN's BOSSAM--STEALING FATE (Jung Il-woo) (Airing-?);
5. MBC's RED CUFF OF THE SLEEVE (Kim Kyung-nam) (Airing-June).

I hope this helps.

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Bookmarked. Thank you bong-soo @marcusnyc20!
I have 1. and 3. on my list. I'm looking forward to seeing my sageuk girls again, Kim Yoo-jung (RED SKY) and Kim So-hyun (RIVER).

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@kathia and @wishfultoki,
This news just in. Upcoming historical drama addition:
6. tvN’s TALE OF THE SECRET ROYAL INSPECTOR AND JO YI (Jo Byung-gyu) (2nd half of 2021)
https://www.soompi.com/article/1448478wpp/jo-byeong-gyu-in-talks-to-star-in-new-historical-drama

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@kathia and @wishfultoki,
Another addition to the list of possible upcoming historical dramas:
7. KBS’s YEONMO/AFFECTION. (Rowoon)
(Airing ?2021)
https://mydramalist.com/683673-affection

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@bong-soo thank you for all the suggestions. @wishfultoki I am also waiting for the Kingdom spin-off series.

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I’m watching it at the moment too but I’m way further behind....it’s really good but it’s definitely a long haul drama.

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In answer to both your questions: YES!
The recaps are also very helpful.

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Thanks ;) In fact, I usually read the recaps of sageuks after watching the episodes to see if I've missed something or to understand the history better 😏 And I often go wikipedia to read about the Kings and their accomplishments (and even their family, to see how many wives or concubines they had 😁).

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BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST LIFE is one of the really great K-dramas.

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Kim Chang Wan is amazing. I had to stop watching the scene in the laboratory with the little children, walk away, and come back later. Then when he speaks to his daughter he is so rational and convinced, so enveloped in the value of "his work" it is breathtaking. Reminds me of other historical examples of research using children. There is so much more of it than most people realise. Cheers for SFD and YAI.

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Regarding the Uncanny Counter, I think this was mentioned in an earlier episode (1 or 2), but when a counter dies, and the counter is not standing on their "territory", their spirit counterpart isn't able to return to Yung, and will disappear. I believe that's why Wi-gen was desperate to find a comatose person to enter in that moment.

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I also have so many questions about Yung, @eazal! About Wi-gen, I think it's really about the killing of the counter that had her panicking that time. She had to find another 'host' before he died. Like with ahjumma being near death in ep 11, her guardian counterpart was also 'near death' too. So guardians and counters share the same fate when it comes to life and death, except in cases where the guardian can find a ready replacement.

The chief inspector, tho! Who is she? Is she the head of Yung? Why does she have a black lab? Who are the people behind her in white hoodies? What about sugar daddy's guardian?

I'm told there are many differences between the drama and the webtoon so it's useless to read it to find answers. I just hope the writing's gonna be tight for the last 4 eps!

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Run-on I find the replay value awesome. Each hour is like 90% our 4 leads being awesome, adorable, weird, or funny (omg, how cute was that Young-hwa, Mi-joo, and Seon-kyum meetup). Bullies have limited screen time and power. Even in that scene with Dan-ah's dad and brother. They may be oppressing her, but you don't feel that she's hopeless. Seon-kyum's dad being a douche again? Mi-joo navigated that situation beautifully and got the upper hand. Actually, just a lot of capable women in this.

Uncanny Counter. I've been anxiously waiting for the other foot to drop in terms of consequences for the counters breaking the rules and am relieved it finally did. Though knowing how many strikes they've all got, I'm worried that one of them won't be surviving the end of the series. I was sad that So Moon was punished and stripped of his powers, but I think learning to control his emotions will make him even more powerful. Hate can't be the only way to summon the Territory.

Korean Pork Belly Rhapsody I'm not that into pork belly, but the show makes me want to eat massive amounts of pork belly.

Busy week at work this week so haven't been able to catch up on Cheat on me if you can, Mr.Queen, Into the Ring, and Secret Royal Investigator (meant to check out ep 3 and 4 to see if it got better).

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You were right about summoning the territory. His passion to save his fellow counters worked, too! Mun is now resinstated, so does this mean he's reset? No more warnings?

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CHEAT ON ME (Ep 9-10): Adding a vengeful CEO with gangster ties to a NIS stalker being directed by YJ's father, and a likely powerful cult, puts more players on the stage but does not reveal YJ's full back story. Why is everyone so worried about YJ and the secret she is hiding? The more we see of "the scary lady" part of YJ, the more we see that she may not be the perfect sleuth (she has some blind spots and misconceptions of situations to draw wrong conclusions). The Mirae story line is immaterial unless the final reveal is a parallel lesson from YJ's past.

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- Completed -

A PIECE OF YOUR MIND (12/12): This is the cathartic drama that I craved and couldn’t find last year, with characters and an understated romance that unfolded gently like the passing seasons. The episode cut left some loose ends, but I choose to look at it as giving the drama a sense of incompleteness, which somehow fits with the theme that we can only really know bits and pieces of other people, but love them all the same. Wonderful OST.

- Ongoing -

TRUE BEAUTY (8/16): What @selena said. If I get SLS it's all Hwang In-yub's fault for making Seo-joon so swoony and childish at the same time. I loved how he bragged that he wasn't afraid of ghosts and proceeded to faint when he did see the "ghost". Su-ho needs to stop glaring and staring. It's boring.

SECRET ROYAL INSPECTOR (6/16): This week’s episodes weren’t spectacular, but I like the way L’s character is mostly a dunce who has his brief moments of luck and genius. It’s a running joke that he cannot keep his “secret” assignments a secret.

BLOOMS AT RUYI PAVILION (5/40): Help, I started a Cdrama. Is this one any good? No spoilers please, just tell me if the ending is a trainwreck.

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Re: Ruyi Pavillion,
I can't with Ju Jingyi's (the FL actress) compelling need to look perfect ALL the time, and not give a single bad-angle. Her acting, looks like (bad) acting... and I gave up on her dramas :/ If you like the CP, maybe you should try 'legend of yunxi', that's def a better watch! :3

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Thank you! I have no idea who the FL actress is, but her make-up is distracting I agree.

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Actually, I don't have second lead syndrome. Seo-joon is a bit pushy, child-ish. Well, Su-ho is no better than Seo-joon, since he is a bit cold and boring. But I do prefer Su-ho (in fact, I tend to prefer the men the female leads have crushes on).

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I rarely get second-lead syndrome. This one might not go anywhere because we clearly know where the female lead's heart lies, and yes, Seo-joon has been acting like a jealous kid.

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I agree. Besides, Su-ho tried his best to convey his feelings (though with some failures and bad decisions), but he did his best, and finally said that he liked her. While Seo-joon acts like the typical character who is a bit pushy, treats the female lead like his own possession, and never has the guts to tell his real feelings.

It seems to be norm in k-dramaland that male leads confess first to the female leads, while the second male leads cry in the distance in a hopeless and frustrated manner while concealing their feelings (Start-up...).

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Live On It's still not over...

Awaken The 3 kids are finally reunited! Not for the best on the other hand. It's sad they have to fight against each other.

Run On I think I miss Beanie train for this one. So I dropped it. For me, they are random people doing really weird things. ISW is cute in this drama, but I can't help to see him because he kinda has the same personality in the real life.

True Beauty I like this drama but I wonder how they will tell the story during 8 episodes without falling in the usual tropes.

The Uncanny Counter The celestial part is boring and doesn't really make sense.

Mr. Queen I'm rooting for the Queen and still dislike the King. How can he say that she's his woman when he's still seeing his concubine and using the sickness of the Queen to search his father-in-law's house...

Lovestruck in the City It's a fun watch. The format is original and works well for me.

Hot Stove League I needed more NGM on my screen. It's the second time I watched it and it's still very good, even when you know the plot. NGM well deserved his award for this role!

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'I'm rooting for the Queen and still dislike the King. How can he say that she's his woman when he's still seeing his concubine....'
That's literally monarchy and harem-rules 101.😂🤣

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This is why I dont like romance if it involves the king and the queen. How can you say you love her when you're still seeing your hundreds of concubines? Love is never meant to be shared. Lol.

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Nobody forces the King to see his concubines and spend time with them... It's his choice, not a rule.

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Nope, in many ways it's literally *forced* upon the King/ Emperor to visit a particular concubine/ wife. Especially if she has strategic 'outer-court' influence to provide, via her influential family, then the Monarch is quite literally expected to not just spend a night with her but produce an heir with her too. It's 'forced', if he doesn't find her appealing; isn't interested in her, or worse, if he's actually *in love* with one of his other female partners.
Oftentimes, this 'forcing', or coercion, or even manipulation, comes from the Queen Mother/ Empress Dowager, or *even* his *own Head-Eunuch*...
He may actually end-up treating her like a friend to play Go with, or as a political advisor, or merely an entertainer, if he wishes to be platonic with her. A strong/ powerful King can *afford* to be assertive on who he wishes to have sex with. A weak King can't afford that luxury. Even lesser, if the Concubine belongs to one of the two most powerful clans in the country (aka Hwa Jin, who belongs to Jo-clan).
This is precisely why, since the King is 'weak', he's described as a 'breeding horse' in public, to his face. :( :(
If you believe 'nobody forces the King to see his concubines and spend time with them.....', might I suggest you watch more court-politics setting dramas, either Saeguks or C-dramas.
I would say Empress Ki is literally about the Emperor, NOT wanting to do anything with his 'chief-wife', and literally being *forced* to marry her, then *forced* to bed her, and then *forced* to produce an heir with her, just because she was her 'most powerful man in the country' dad wanted his grandson to be the next Emperor. This is his plight, not just with her, but multiple other women he had no interest in. (He ends up unwillingly having sex with multiple women)
Sure, it may so happen that the King is a habitual philanderer, and enjoys sleeping with multiple women who are at his disposal (like in 'the royal tailor')... but usually, him being in *love* isn't a conflict in those plots (because he is shown as somebody who doesn't love any particular wife)
Sorry for the essay, but yeah.... had to clarify! :D

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I'm talking about this drama not in Korea or Chinese history... In this case, the strong ones are from the Queen's side.

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You cover this so well. Court politics.

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I was thinking that I need to rewatch HSL, but I think I'll wait until Awaken is over, as now I still get my NGM dose a week.

And regarding Awaken, I wonder what will happen to JaeWoong revenge, now that he remembers that JungWoo told him to wait. Will they still be enemies? Will they join forces? By the preview, it's only clear that JungWoo and Jamie are more bonded (I still think they can actually be twins), but what about JaeWoong... and what about the JaeWoong we first met? Has he disappeared? Will he take control over the evil JaeWoong now that he remembers everything?

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Jae-Woong killed a lot of people... So I don't think Jamie and Jung-Woo can forget that. But who is the real Jae-Woong? I wonder when his personality split. When he was young, he already killed this family...

Jamie and Jung-Woo have a special bond but in the same time she always calls him Monster, so...

Otherwise, NGM's effect is strong 😂

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Now, I'm not so sure about who killed everybody in the island. We all thought it was JaeWoong because they were acting like in an lucid dream, and he's the one who can induce them in others, but then it was JungWoo the one who poured something into the soup (was it the something similar to the drug he gives now to the ones he "treats").
I think the kid was good (aka, the shy JW) but when he felt he had been abandoned my JungWoo and Jamie his other personality came out to to take control of the situation.
And don't talk to me about NGM's effect!! Wow...

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I was talking about the murderers they were investigated for Jae-Woong's victims.

On the island, I thought it was Jung-Woo. Weither it was Jung-Woo or Jae-Woong, they were kids trying to escape from hell...

I'm happy that I'm not alone under NGM's spell :p

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Oh, it's cute. Jo Han-Sun sent a coffee truck for Lee Chung-Ah (Temptation of Wolves) and Nam Goong-Min :D

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Thank you to whoever recommended Kono Koi Atatamemasu Ka to me. I just finished it and I quite enjoyed it. It is probably one of the few dramas in which I was okay with the male lead falling for either the female lead or the second female lead. I did like the second male lead, but his attitude did reek a bit too much of the entitlement of nice guys sometimes, so I'm glad the FL didn't fall for him. All in all, good drama. Thank you once again.

Now I need to find a recent sageuk or Chinese historical/wuxia to watch.

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Recent Saeguk: Mr. Queen
Recent c-historical (comedy): Romance of Tiger & Rose or Joy of Life
Recent c-historical (wuxia): Ancient Detective

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That might have been me 😀
I liked how positive Kono Koi was and that there were no Baddies. And yes, I also liked the main couple... and how they were more alive in each other's company... and inspired each other.

If you like comedy I'm joining Chibi above in recommending Tiger and Rose.

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Happy Mr. Queen day everyone! This week's watchlist -

Awaken - Significant plot movement this week. The three 'kids' are finally together and I'm looking forward to the confrontation.

Secret Royal Inspector - Will continue for now. L and Kwon Nara are cute even if the story seems trite.

True Beauty - It's cute I guess? I realise I'm not very invested in the love triangle. I just want happy Seojun 😤

Run On - Still here for Im Siwan and Sooyoung. I do not understand the attraction of the stalker-y college boy but I guess that's the story we're watching 🤷‍♀️

Cheat on Me... - In a show full of criminals, why do I find the chaebol college student the creepiest 🤔 Still love Sooho

Delayed Justice - Last week's episodes were weak. Nothing that happened in Ep 13 held any meaning since it was all reversed in Ep 14 as we knew it would be.

Weekend plan - MR. QUEEN 🥳, this week's episodes of Delayed Justice, and last week + this week's episodes of Uncanny Counter if I can hack it

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Oh I'm also still watching Lovestruck in the City and A Love So Beautiful but from the way I forgot about them, I guess it's clear what I think 😶

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Happy Mr. Queen Day right back atcha. I'm sitting here gazing at the RAW upload and convincing myself to wait wait wait for the subtitles, and maybe even episode 10, before I fall down the rabbit hole. It's all made a little easier as I have just discovered 'Find me in your memory' and am really enjoying that; sometimes it's great to be late to a party.

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Lol are you me. I was doing the same thing with the RAWS. Distracted myself with a t-drama 😌

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Run On (7-8)
This drama still awesome. Even getting better for me. Their conversations just keep making them getting know each other better. Love Mijoo and Danah, always love some reverse gender scenes like when Mijoo drag SeonGyeom and when Dan Ah wautbfor Yeonghwa at the school gate XD. Can't wait for more progress.

Mr queen
This drama is hilariously fun and opposite of everyone i cannot wait for the political scheming and machinations to begin XD. I love our king and queen together. I know many people hate Byeong In but i love his loyalty and he's a smartypants. I can predict he will help the king in the future and prince YeongPyeong will betray him or something if he keep bonding with hwajin (rolleyes).

Royal secret agent (5-6)
This drama remind me of some KBS old sageuk drama like Mandate of Heaven (LDW and Jihyo). Quite enjoyable so far, Yigyeom and Dain bickering is cute XD. Yigyeom definitely a tsundere. Surprisingly L is doing okay here.

True beauty
Just hope the girls friendship surviving this love square but hey this is high school! XD

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Run On : One of many things I like about the show is that female characters are complex. Dan-ah can be selfish and righteous. Same Dan-ah can be cruel to her brother but cares about her employees quite a lot. She cares about Sun-Kyum but puts her companie’s interest first. She hates her brother and father but cares enough not expose them for sake of the company. Even Sun-Kyun’s mother comes across as neglectful but is aware of the fact she was not a great mother. She acknowledges that being actress was easier for her than being a mother. But does not means she is cold; she clearly loves her son and wants him to be happy.
Lovestruck in the City : I like the show when it does not solely focus on the mopey couple.
True Beauty : I find Cha-Eun Woo quite wooden and boring. I am staying for MGW and HIY.
I find mom-dad dynamic quite problematic. It is filled with stealing, casual verbal and physical abuse.
The Uncanny Counter : I find villain quite cliché but Eunni gang quite adorable. I am staying for them.
Cheat on me if you can: Best part of the show are Soo-ho and Kang Yeo-Joo.
Mr. Queen: I have boarded the Mr. Queen express and hoping it won’t get detailed in later part.

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-completed-

THE TALE OF NOKDU - (complete/ratings:7/10) I followed this drama on Dramabeans recaps. However, I decided to watch it for real. And it was a very enjoyable ride overall. Lovable characters, great female cast, good funny moments, heartbreaking moments with meaning. I wouldn’t say perfect, but it was a good watch ;)

-ongoing-

HWARANG – (watched:ep10/ratings:5/10) I dropped this drama around the time it aired. I just wasn’t feeling it at the time. So, after 4 years, I decided to give it a second chance. It’s never too late. For now, it feels okay-ish.

MR. QUEEN - (watched:ep7/ratings:5/10) What a boring episode. I had a hard time watching it because it felt as if time had slowed down. I think this is due to the Queen’s coma condition, which means that this drama is only enjoyable because of Shin Hye-sun. She is the only one carrying this drama.

TRUE BEAUTY - (watched:ep8/ratings:7/10) I feel sorry for Soo-ho, not only did his friend died but he was also blamed for his death. My heart hurt when I saw him cry at the rooftop. I hate the mom, how can she love 2 of her kids and hate the other? That's cruel, she doesn't deserve to be called a mother. Love the sister and the teacher together.

HIKARU NO GO Chinese - (watched:ep5/ratings:9/10) What gem is this? What a nice surprise. I saw the anime version when I was a teenager, and I loved it except for the ending. This remake is so nicely done so far. I'm not that used to hear Mandarin Chinese, but the story is so good that it doesn't bother me much.

-onhold&dropped-

QUEEN: LOVE & WAR - (watched:ep3/ratings:4/10) The story is intriguing, and a fictional King makes me hope for a happier script, rather than the usual sad and dramatic sageuk script. But it felt very boring at the beginning. Not sure if I will continue or not. Depends on my mood.

LOVESTRUCK IN THE CITY - (watched:ep1/ratings:2/10) Dropped. I just couldn’t watch anymore. Sorry Ji Chang-wook, see you in a parallel universe.

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The Tale Of Nokdu was such a gem. Loved it all the way.

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Nokdu and Dong joo were so good together, and the ending was very nice, one of the best endings I've seen (so complete, I only wished to see their children if they had any, but that's just a wish, not a complaint).

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So happy that you're enjoying HnG!! It IS a gem indeed!! I want more people to watch and love this show! I thought it was a great show, start to finish. It grabbed me in the first five minutes of its opening, and I didn't ff a single minute. I had no idea about the story, never having read the manga or watched the anime, so the story was totally new to me.

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The writing is so strong in this one! And the characters are all awesome too! This series needs more love, but as far as I can see, those who have watched it absolutely loved it 🥰❤️

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Spent the last couple of weeks in a webtoon rabbit hole, but because I was on holiday, still had enough time to watch Start Up, which was fun but pretty forgettable. Loved the OST, loved the side characters and the two leads were very cute. Totally recommend it as a no-effort-watch.
Besides that, tried to catch up with Mr Queen, but Shin Hyesoon-ess episode kind of disconnected me from the drama. I'll try it again some day soon. Also caught up with Uncanny Counter, still low-key loving it.

Started watching True Beauty with my kids. It's pretty standard, but they like the high school setting. Kids started calling Suho "Ricachón" (spanish for chaebol, or "filthy rich") and Seojun is "Malote Supremo" (punk supreme?). Kids are currently on different teams, each hating on one of the male leads, but we all agree that Jukyung is freaking adorable and that Soojin is the coolest.

If you're curious about which webtoons have been keeping me away from dramas, I've been reading loads, but here are the ones I've been liking the most: Pigpen, Bastard, Omniscient Reader, I'm the grim reaper, Lore Olympus, Cicada on a Tree, Phase. Any recs?

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My favourite webtoons are currently Edith, The Kiss Bet and Your smile is a trap. I Love Yoo is sadly still on pause.

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Oh, I like Your smile is a trap too! I'll check out the other ones you mention, thanks! 😚

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I especially love Cooking Dad 😀

Other webtoons I follow: Age Matters, Makeup Remover, First night with the duke (funny) and Your Throne has a very very interesting start (though lately I'm getting a bit lost and losing my interest). I'm also following Phase. 🙂

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Cooking Dad sending Lily off making a big heart with his arms is a mood 😂 He's such scary looking big fuzzball

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Your kids killed me with the nicknames! Hahahahahaa.
Whenever I'm watching dramas if I come up with nicknames they are usually in English because I only talk about dramas in English, so I find it adorable both Ricachón and Malote Supremo. Me parrrrrrrrrto!!!!!

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My kids, they're ruthless 😂

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Run On: really loving everything about this show so far, i.e. the colors, the pacing, the vibe between the leads, even the second leads (who are finally coming into their own). I like that Mi-joo and Sun-kyum's interactions aren't entirely about their feelings. Their conversations help kind of unpack who they are as individuals too.

I'm slightly put off by the casual way the show just throws out words like "outing" and "lesbian." It's 2021, and LGBT issues/characters ought to be more than a throwaway plot point for a character trying to avoid marriage. I hope the writers have put more thought into this than what we're seeing so far.

Mr. Queen: I don't think I really "get" the show, but I do think it's both funny and unexpectedly charming. I've been ever so slightly bored by the most recent episodes, however.

Goblin: I just started watching this (I'm on Episode 2), and wow, I'm just blown away by how well made this show is, right off the bat. Also, this is the first time I'm seeing Gong Yoo in anything, and double wow. That is all.

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That's next on my old drama catch-up list! (If my experience with My Name is Kim Sam Soon is anything to go by, I will become instantly addicted to Coffee Prince and end up watching it like six times, lol).

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😀😀

Watch also the Special they released a month or two ago.

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Brought back all those nostalgic feelings. 😊

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Bless you for loving Kim Sam Soon! It’s still my favorite drama after 15 years ❤️🥰❤️

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I have such love for Kim Sam Soon, the show and the character! It's brilliant on so many levels.

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Ohhh Coffee Prince, such an addiction during my tender years in High School ;)

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Goblin was my first drama and after that I watched everything I could with Gong Yoo on it.
Even commercials.
And yes, go and watch Coffee Prince. You'll love it.

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Gong Yoo is one of my favorite actors for a reason and he has never been better than in GOBLIN, which is a classic drama. It helps that it was so very well written. GOBLIN is one of the greats, you are not wasting your time.

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Currently watching:

The Uncanny Counter: Just one stupidity; Somun confronting the mayor powerless (seemingly) and that too in his school uniform. I'm scared for grandparents! Somun-ah💕!! Chosimjae!!!

Mr. Queen: As much as it's premise is wacky and amusing, I struggle to love this show as much I should. While Bong-whan/So-yong's antics are funny and entertaining enough, the rest of it feels quite empty. Maybe Mr. Queen needs to get into the royal affairs himself to amp up the overall show.

Extracurricular: As much as I hate characters and people (irl) like Gyuri, I'm glad she was there to save Jisoo at the end (which I hope they made it out safely). Kim Dong-hee is a cutie-patootie and..I must confess I kept seeing Suho (EXO) instead of Gyuri for most of the show 😅😅 it's just too uncanny of a resemblance for my eyes!!

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Mr. Queen: 7.5 Shin Hye-Sun is still funny but if they expect her to carry the whole show they need to keep her conscious and on-screen. Attempts at humor with other characters fall flat except for the head cook. Side characters, palace politics and love rivalries are dull.

Uncanny Counter: 7.0

Run On: 7.0

Fly Dragon / Delayed Justice: 6.0 Sigh. So many (slightly) better shows and they make this one 20 episodes 😠 I was looking forward to it being over so I could pocket the Bean and move on.

Cheat on Me If You Can: 7.4

Awaken: 7.6 Day 11 - Next time your trips get rained out two days in a row - there are these things called weather forecasts. You can even check them on your phone. Day 12 - Once again cops pull guns on baddies and it somehow turns into a "dramatic" fist fight. Sigh. "Bringing a gun to a fist fight" is not my favorite kdrama trope.

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I'm not watching Awaken so this might be irrelevant but I have seen it mentioned in some kdramas that korean cops are not allowed to carry loaded guns or shoot, unless they are specifically being sent on an armed mission. So the guns are usually mostly decorative.

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Run on : I liked ep 7 the most and while ep 8 was a bit slow because our leads did'nt interact much with each other the final scene made up for all the time lost. Ki sun gyum... How awesome is that scene. KSG's mom is cool and despite her not being much in his life they clearly adore each other. And it was very heart warming to watch. This week I did'nt mind his dad much. Mijoo getting sick amd sun kyum being there for her was tropey but strangely it felt realistic esp as mijoo just asked for some quiet and calm. Eagerly waiting for next week.
So since I decided not to start any new dramas which is going fine I made my mother start MY AJUSSHI and I'm also watching with her since it's her first kdrama and she is really enjoying but we're taking it very slow like 2 episodes a week since she is quiet busy. Still at ep 3. So happy that I get to rewatch the drama.

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1. Two Cops (10/16)

Still watching the previous projects of Mr.Dimples. 😊 (Strongest Delivery Man should be the last one as it is expected to be the best one) It is an easy watch, and probably an easily forgettable one, but at least I found out how talented Jo Jung-suk really is. I know he is charismatic and all, but not before I was blown away by his performance like I do in this one. Here he had to act as 2 different persons: Him acting as himself a detective; and him acting as he was possessed by an adorably but apparently a conning man spirit (Kim Seon-ho's character). Totally agree with a Beanie's comment that this is the first time KSH didn't steal a scene. Jo Jung-suk's screen presence is something to behold, and I am just glad Baby got to work with such a talented, veteran actor like him

I found it lacking on the romance front though. The evident difference in age between JJS and Lee Hye-ri made me feel a little bit uneasy watching them kiss passionately. KSH is adorable as ever, but I have to say that he didn't work his magic for me in this one, as my attention is mainly directed to JJS's character.

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Oh I can post now! ☺️ Yeah !

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Hyeri often is the issue in her dramas, except Reply 1988. She had no chemistry with Ji Sung or Jo Jung Suk...

For JJS, you need to watch Jealousy Incarnate, he's really great in this one.

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"Totally agree with a Beanie's comment that this is the first time KSH didn't steal a scene. Jo Jung-suk's screen presence is something to behold"

AGREE with every word!

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Just curious, what order did you watch the projects in, and how would you rank his performances?

I'm looking to watch more of his stuff but don't quite know where to begin...

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Start-Up: 100/10 LOVE

Previous projects that I watched in the order of watching:

1. You Drive Me Crazy: 10/10 (short story with lovely characters). Plus, you also got to see the renown kiss scenes (KSH bragged about it to the 2D1N cast members.) 😂

2. 100 Days My Prince: 9/10 It’s a visually beautiful, thoughtfully-made drama with some lovely characters. The only con about this is KSH didn’t have much screen time, but he stole the show every time he was on screen.

3. Two Cops (now watching): ?/? So far it’s a likable show. The relationship between him and JJS is heartwarming. I’m enjoying this one too.

Variety show: 2D1N 10/10 You may like him in dramas but you’ll love him in this one. He is just so adorable, funny and endearing. 😘😘😘

Baby got 4.4 m followers on Instagram now.

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KSH's dimples couldn't hold my attention for this drama. I just can't see Hye Ri as anyone other than Deok Sun from Reply 1988.

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He actually has convincing and unexpected chemistry with Bokk Suh character (his minion).

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This is a combo of what I’ve watched the past few weeks. Completely forgot to do the ‘What we’re watching’ thread.

Currently Airing

COLOR RUSH: Really liking this so far. There seems to be some chemistry there, and I’m loving the angst in this so far. I noticed it was rated R on Viki and MDL. I’m not sure if this is right or not. It doesn’t give this vibe right now (very much has a TV-14 rating to me). Anyways, I’m interested to see what happens in the future episodes. (ep. 1-4)

LOVESTRUCK IN THE CITY: I liked this more than I though I would. It’s got a calming vibe. And I love the beach, so that was a plus. (ep. 1)

MR QUEEN: It is funny, but I’m not loving it. Hate tithe political stuff. I always find it very boring in saeguks. (ep. 1)

RUN ON: There’s been a lot of praise for this drama. It was okay. The first episode definitely just jumped right into the characters lives and seemed a little all over the place (for a first episode). But I like the two leads, so I will continue to try to catch up. (ep. 1)

TRUE BEAUTY: I’m enjoying it overall. I was watching this on my laptop in the same room as my dad (who happened to be watching something on TV), and it was very much a struggle to keep myself from laughing aloud. (ep. 3-6)

THE UNCANNY COUNTER: This episode was very much a struggle to get through after that initial fight. There were a lot of scenes with the bad guys that I just found quite boring. But I made it! (ep. 4)

Rewatched

THE BOY NEXT DOOR: Randomly decided to watch this after the New Year. Funny as usual. (ep. 6)

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Run On:
Still watching. Still loving.

True Beauty:
Definitely my guilt pleasure.
I had a problem with the concept of "ugly" in this drama and still do. But all the characters are just so funny. I laugh so much watching this drama. I was originally on Soo ho's boat, but now I'm standing on both. Jookyung seems to really like Soo ho and I can understand where she's coming from, so it's hard for me to abandon that boat. On the other hand, Seojoon is such a good soft human being. How can you not like him? (Not to mention, Hwang In-yup has such a nice deep voice.)

Mr. Queen:
Surviving with the help of the fast forward button.

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Run On: my current fave, still going strong, no other comment than I 100% echo @stroopwafel's take and that I wish Dan-ah would be less cruel to Tae-woong. And also that I like that every character is human, in that they have both very awesome characteristics but also some very real flaws.

The Swindlers: I've been meaning to watch this for a while since the cast and concept looked interesting, and I actually really enjoyed it. Two-hour commitment on a particularly frigid night.

Schitt's Creek: finally finished season 6 - what a treat that show was! I'm sad to say good bye, but they're ending the show on a high note with the story told. I wish American series would take a page out of this Canadian masterpiece's book.

I'll be starting my Missing: the Other Side binge tomorrow, so thanks to the beanies who steered me in that direction!

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I really hope you enjoy Missing!

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IN MISSING actor Heo Joon-ho totally makes up for playing psycho dad in COME AND HUG ME lol.
MISSING was one of my favorites of 2020. Enjoy.
(Keep the tissues close by.)

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Forest of Secrets 2 (Episodes 6-16): I am impressed at how all the cases came together in a stunning conclusion that showcased the extent to which people in power can go to conceal their crimes. Really enjoyed watching Shi Mok and Yeo Jin working together again in the midst of the tension between the police and the prosecution, but I wish I got to see more of Dong Jae and Shi Mok’s wary partnership.

Run On (Episodes 1-4): Loving the snappy banter between the main leads, whose respective personalities are refreshing and unique. It doesn’t hurt that their chemistry is on point as well. I also appreciate how the show chooses to portray a different angle of typical drama tropes.

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Currently Watching:
1. True Beauty: Effortlessly adorable. I don't mind Suho who seems to have about 1 and a quarter of an expression on his face all the time, because he cute, and i shallow :3 Also, the sister x HR teacher is a parody i didn't know i needed xD

2. Mr. Queen: This is why I do not watch Saeguks :/ The fact that the show-quality dropped as soon as SHS wasn't on our screens, indicates a very problematic and dismal future for the show. Since i have invested 10+ hours on this already, might as well soldier on!

3. Shanai Marriage Honey: Cute and single-tracked. Waiting for more eps to drop, cuz the subbing is at snail-pace atm. Grateful to the subbers tho, for their hardwork! <3

4. Growing Season: Quite a boring week. I wish Kid Park and A-yin would get together, like yesterday!...

5. Lovestruck in the City: Haven't yet caught up with the last 2 eps. Hope the 'camera-thief' bit is addressed soon. And also some focus on the other 2 couples, who aren't as mopey and problematic as the lead couple. I wish JCW/KJW's characters weren't as meh.

6. Intense Love: Was definitely missing Ryan Ding on my screen (Tiger & Rose). Didn't help Itagaki Mizuki (from Shanai) reminds me SO much him from certain angles, hence gave this a shot. But nope, Not even Ryan Ding can make me stay beyond ep.1. Waiting eagerly for Moonlight to drop, it has *such* manga vibes. Ryan does skinship well. Hope they go the jap-route on this one *wink* *wipes drool*

7. Start-Up: About to blow up my screen, because this seemed like such a colossal waste of time? Why did they not focus more on *real* struggles of a start-up? Why do they not tell us how Sandbox protects its baby-businesses? Why did I keep waiting for the FL to fulfill her dad's incomplete dreams? T_T
Turned out to be more like a 'romanticized' idea of a Start-Up, instead of a real depiction. And they seemed incredibly lucky, tbh. I guess I am a victim of my own misplaced expectations, and between the last remaining (& very predictable) episode and the MDL-comment section...I know which one I am looking forward to more xD xD
*grabs popcorn*

Dropped:
ALSB: Not feeling it all. I'm so over ItaKiss type stories (but I'm dying for f4:thailand) heh! Heard the c-drama original is better. Might check that out cuz apparently it's more heartfelt.

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I dropped Intense Love pretty early as well. Reset Life was better and I also started Just an Encore because of him (though that's now on pause for already quite some time).

Koi wa Tsuzuku was not a bad sort of spin-off of ItaKiss 🙂

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Aha, a fellow Ryan Ding fan here, I see! Thanks for the reco, and the reassurance that IL is worth dropping. Onto his other projects till Moonlight releases! :)

Uhh, not a fan of Love Lasts Forever. ItaKiss dynamic was well-done in Perfect & Casual though... the characters didn't seem so caricature-ish. As somebody who has checked out 'Koi wa...' manga, I can tell it wasn't the best adaptation! :P

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MR. QUEEN is our favorite show. Shin Hye-sun shines. But the voice-overs by Choi Jin-hyuk appear to have ended and I miss them.

My wife continues to watch the Chinese costume drama THE LEGEND OF FEI.

We finished watching an older family weekender, MARRY ME NOW. It was really good. This does mean that I am behind on the currently airing HOMEMADE LOVE STORY.

I am still watching LOVESTRUCK IN THE CITY but am a bit frustrated by the fact that the central plotline is the most idiotic separation since BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST LIFE. LOVESTRUCK IN THE CITY still has me hooked- but supremely frustrated with the female lead. On the other hand we got to see a lot more f the other characters this week and they were good.

In sharp contrast is RUN ON which has the best romantic relationship since INTO THE RING. You can really see the chemistry of this couple. Unfortunately you can also see rough seas ahead for them. But Stroopwafel is absolutely right that there is more than just the OTP: There is a quartet, and yet it is not a love quadrangle. I have actually fallen in love with the character of Dan-ah- she is a strong woman yet she is so beautifully flawed and vulnerable that it is wonderful. Her lack of any real support from her family is in tragic contrast to Sun-kyum’s relationship with his sister Eun-bi. Dan-ah really needs someone and that is where our second male lead will come in. Her flawed and all too human nature shows in her treatment of her younger half-brother- which is probably baggage that was forced or dumped upon her by a justifiably resentful mother. Meanwhile our male lead and the second lead are well on the way to a true bromance. The second male lead is a delightful young art student who is almost naively Candy-like, in sharp contrast to Dan-ah's worldliness.

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Imo: With Seon-gyeom (ML) and Young-hwa (2ML), what your see is what you get. I don’t think either one is two faced.
One of the things that was beginning to annoy me was Mi-joo’s complaining (if you will) that at times being around Seon-gyeom made her feel crappy. I wanted to say, “well, how is that his problem?” He is not the most expressive guy in the world but he not acting passive/aggressive. Their relationship in the story is starting to develop so maybe we are beyond this.

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Run On--I hope it's not too much of a spoiler but I have to express how much I loved Mijoo's deliberate misinterpretation of Sun-kyum's dad's order to "find her proper seat," ("I'm good at finding my seat, I've been here lots of times,") and Sun-kyum's pleased little grin as she leads him away. I had to rewatch that several times.

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I liked that line too 😁 "I know how to find my place because I've been here several times". Was LOL-ing there for quite a while!

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Still absolutely fascinated with "Run On" and so moved by the loneliness of Sun Kyum. The two leads are carrying so much baggage and need each other so much I can't wait for them to become their own special unit. Every single character has an interesting story. I'm still not sure whether Dan-ah is supposed to be gay or is just saying so to avoid getting married off to somebody useful to her father. Sun Kyum is so absolutely precious, he's a marvellous actor and conveys so much with just a flicker of the eyes. I just wish he was a little more able to express himself, but this is a slow-burn romance and it really builds beautifully. This is only one of three dramas I have watched when I actually watch each episode more than once, there is so much in the dialogue and it is so beautifully written. I'm sad it is half over!

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Dan-ah is not gay- and honestly is not even trying very hard to appear to be gay. A couple of episodes ago when she asked her older half-brother if he was "outing her" it was after he stated that she was just pretending to be gay in order to avoid being married off- in other words he was "outing her" as being straight.

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City Hunter: not to be overdramatic but to be overdramatic, never have I been so led astray by beanies and the OG Overlords. I was excited for this show because everyone and their mama compared it to Healer and raved on about this show. I just never had gotten around to it. We finally got to it and just finished it this week and what in the world did we just watch. The romance was flat. The politics were flat. The only solid part was how sharp those angles in Emo Assassin and Emo Prosecutor's hair were and LMH's shirts trying to break the record for how low could a v-neck be and still be a shirt. (Ok to give legit credit the fight scenes with LMH were pretty well choreographed). Otherwise, sigh.
I've gotten into web series because they are easy to squeeze in during dead time at work. I accidentally started live-watching One Fine Week 2. So far so good though I like the first season better. I'm just glad this is a real continuation. But, it is a real bummer to wait a week for 2 16 min eps.

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Oh, ONE FINE WEEK has a sequel? Will check it out.

I remember that EMO Prosecutor was the best thing in CITY HUNTER (Lee Joon-hyuk!). And I liked Evil Uncle. I was disappointed with basically everything else except Thailand (?) and the OST. The ending sucked. To be honest I don't think the drama has aged well (my apologies to its many fans).

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Yes! It's only on ep 4 so you might want to wait until it is done or feel free to join me in the torture of waiting.
I was a horribly fake fan and didn't recognize Jonghyun right away but once I knew it was him, the best parts were when his song came on lol. A lot of City Hunter was very dated but I'm not sure I would have even liked it even back in the day. Though back then I wasn't nearly as particular lol

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People should put a big asterisk* next to recommendations for that beloved drama that was the first K-drama they ever saw years ago. Nostalgia is not exactly the same as quality. 'Flower Boy Ramyun Shop' and 'Heirs' have not held up especially well, for example.

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The ONLY good thing about CH is Lee Joon Hyuk. The rest is like a 12-year-old girl's fantasy. Silly and boring.

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Well, 2021 has already been to much to handle. Can't wait for 2022!

Apropos of nothing, I'm in 14 day isolation because the city I flew out of after Christmas is now a hotspot. So - dramas and takeaway! So 2020 so 2021.

But, since I am in Slump Land (mostly), this has not gone particularly well. Oh look, I'm just going to say it. The best thing airing at the moment is The Expanse. And unfortunately I get 40 minutes of that a week, which is excruciating.

But, back to Korea:

Uncanny Counter continues to whelm me. It whelms me enough to keep watching. I am whelmed. I hope I am allowed to be whelmed, despite not being in Europe. I think the thing I find most offputting about this show is its violence. Not just the violence the show utilises but its celebration of violence. Sure, they have an entire plotline about controlling your emotions but it doesn't change the fact that the show's underpinning philosophy is that only violence is the solution to violence. I'm not thrilled with that, especially in 2021.

It's Okay to Not Be Okay: I'm late to this party but I did like the show's first two episodes. There's a part of me that's guarded though because it has all the elements it needs to really go off the rails around either mental health issues or the more cliched elements of the romance. Still, people who loved this really really loved it and I'm willing to go on this journey. I do completely love the female lead's unapologetic qualities, her refusal to bend to societal dictates and her gothic princess-turned-witch persona. I love the Candy male/tsundere female inversion. But that doesn't mean this relationship magically becomes functional just because you gender flip it. They're going to have to work to sell me on it (assuming that's what it's trying to do).

Bride of Habaek: Don't laugh. Look, I picked up this show about eight months ago and had managed to watch/survive three episodes. Yesterday, somebody sent me a tumbler post about how it's the BEST OTP EVA and the BEST FEMALE LEAD EVA and you know I'm in lockdown over here so I actually pressed play again. This show is terrible. But, you know, it's almost hypnotically pointless. Like the fact that nothing happens, NJH wanders around semi-naked and then nothing continues to happen is almost mesmerising. I made it to episode 6. At this rate I will finish this drama.... sometime in 2022.

Futmalls: Nice concept, poor execution. Don't bother.

Mr Queen: Sorry everyone, I found the first episode of this was not a humour I generally respond to. I'm not a huge fan of slapstick or, if I am, it's a certain kind of physical comedy that's less overstated than this. It's dropped for now, although if people continue to rave about it I might pick it up again. The two leads are great actors and my comment has nothing to do with how amazing SHS is. I watched all of the ridiculous Angel's Last Mission for her after...

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One thing also about Uncanny Counter, I've been trying to ignore the icky Ajusshi romance where he was involved with his junior at work but this week they've pushed that front and centre so now I'm forced to. Just the idea that nobody thinks it's inappropriate for this much older man to have creeped onto this Junior at work and how her assault in this episode is entirely framed about its impact on him. Talk about Himpathy. And it's so normalised apparently that everyone's just like "Oh yeah, your junior who's 20 years younger than you was your girlfriend, that's so completely normal".

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Office romances are as old as offices. Though romance between peers is less icky, its the younger women who are most enthused over the prospect of having a romantic 'adventure'.

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Ummmmmm. I should let this go but I just have to ask, on what evidence do you base the claim about younger women being most enthused about office romances?

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Didn't you know the #metoo movement was women who all desperately wanted the "romantic adventure" of workplace relationships?

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@leetennant
Omo! Did I forget that? *smacks head* 🤦🏼‍♀️
I never thought about all the poor older men victimized in the workplace by enthusiastic young women seeking “romantic adventure”, is there anyone who will stand up for them?
Thanks, LT !

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I have seen a lot of office romances that turned into healthy marriages. The key words are mutual respect, consent, and a strong HR department. For sunbae-hoobae relationships that turned romantic, it's very important that company policy prohibits this-- at least transfer them to different branches or departments at the least!

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Hey half my office is married to the other half. But they're all the same age as each other and none of them, NONE, are even in the same section, let alone a supervisor or manager of the other. That's just a recipe for abuse. If I started work and my mentor wanted to date me I'd have been shattered. Great mentors early in your career make a material difference and using that relationship to leverage a romantic or sexual entanglement... well... #metoo exists for a reason. It just upsets me that this dynamic is so normalised. How many women in their first job sleep walk into these relationships because of how it's portrayed in dramas?

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The Expanse is one of those "The best show that nobody is watching."

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