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Sunbae, Don’t Put on That Lipstick: Episodes 5-6 Open Thread

Work and life get more complicated for our leads, with new opportunities offered, and some important changes forced upon them. Despite what happens in their office life, though, what’s most telling is how it affects the relationship between them. Even the smallest moments can have an impact, and the drama offers an interesting look at how relationships shift.

 
EPISODES 5-6 WEECAP

Did Hyun-seung and Song-ah have a moment in the club? Yes. Yes, they did. Hyun-seung is completely content to stare at Song-ah adoringly, but Song-ah is flustered, and runs out of the club to collect herself.

Whether Hyun-seung caught on or not, he doesn’t waste any opportunity presented to spend more time with her — even if it means drinking with Song-ah and her best friend KIM GA-YOUNG (Kang Hye-jin) (who’s quite clearly onboard the ship!)

The dynamics this week were pretty interesting, because at the same time as we see Song-ah begin to see Hyun-seung in a different light, we also see them pulled apart a bit. Jae-shin is not above separating them as a team, and he rashly assigns Hyun-seung to a new trainer and a new team, which means that Hyun-seung’s work life has just done an about-face.

I know that this drama is more about relationships and romance than what it’s like to work in a big corporation, but something about the way this job shift was captured felt quite authentic. Maybe it’s because I’ve been there before?

You’re working for a team with people and a dynamic that you like, and you’re just learning the ins and outs when suddenly you’re in the middle of a new team. That means new people, new priorities, new pressures — and of course for Hyun-seung, no more Song-ah around him from 9-5 (or longer) every day. But perhaps this is a case of separation making the heart grow fonder?

The more we see of Hyun-seung, the more I like his personality. He’s polite and flexible — he takes the team change punishment without complaint, and puts in his all in his new position, even when that means grumpy salesmen, fawning ajummas, having to become an emergency model at a Klar event, and pulling an all-nighter to solve a product packaging problem.

Hyun-seung is also pretty mature as he handles a new curveball: Song-ah has been offered a big promotion and move for the brand’s upcoming push in Europe. We know he’s devastated, but he doesn’t show it – instead, he tells Song-ah (quite swoonily), “I”ll support you whatever you decide.”

I am no fan of the “sudden overseas opportunity” trope we see so often in rom-coms, so it was a nice change to have this moment moved up in the plot. Instead of breaking up a couple at the end of the drama, this overseas opportunity became: a) a showcase for Hyun-seung’s maturity; b) an important decision for Song-ah as she considers her future; and c) an uptick in not only our love triangle, but the corporate struggles of Jae-shin and DIRECTOR LEE JAE-WOON (Lee Kyu-han).

I feel like I haven’t seen Lee Kyu-han since Que Sera Sera, and his role here is so strange that I haven’t had much to say about it yet. His crush on Hyun-seung’s sister is hilarious and acts mostly as our comic relief, but there’s also a bit of nefariousness in this character, too. And that pulls us back to Jae-shin and his connection to Jae-woon and his father.

I appreciate the time and space the drama is giving to understanding Jae-shin, and what makes him tick. With each episode we get a closer look at his tortured soul and what’s driving him to succeed — or rather, to stay on the path that he’s on with the Lee family. It’s understandable that he’s using their coat tails to rise up, but it’s also tragic (almost in the classical sense) — in a way, his is the more dramatic storyline. I’m curious what will become of him. Will he stay on his path, or will losing Song-ah change his trajectory?

Another set of interesting relationships in Sunbae is Hyun-seung and his sisters, and whether they’re pressure or support, I think the drama gains some grounding from their presence. However, something feels really amiss with middle sister CHAE YEON-SEUNG (Ha Yoon-kyung) and her husband. I can’t put my finger on it, but the way their family is handled is troubling, and I don’t want to be troubled! I’d rather focus on the growing cuteness between Hyun-seung and Song-ah.

And grow it does! Hyun-seung is manning up and dealing with his job change, but Song-ah is interestingly affected by it. She still answers his, “Sunbae?” even though that’s not her role anymore, she worries about him when the sales team takes him for a multi-round night of drinking, and she goes to help him during his sticker-affixing all-nighter. I could make this entire review just a rehashing of all their cute scenes, which is usually what I feel like doing after watching them, but then restrain myself.

From Hyun-seung’s drunken “I miss you,” to his hilarious behavior trying to give her everything in his fridge, to the epic victory dance when he learns he’s not taking the overseas gig — it’s all pretty cute. And it’s not lost on Song-ah.

The drama she’s been through has been painful, but it’s also given her some new perspective. With the contrast of Jae-shin and Hyun-seung’s character laid bare in front of her, it makes sense she’s starting to see Hyun-seung in a new light. Bring on the cute!

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bring on the cute!
Yesss, song ah totally comfortable around hyun seung even she miss him without she realized, she actually doesn't care anymore with Jae shin excuse why he needs to marry jae won's sister.

Btw, I really like hyun seung's nephew! she's so mature and her words always true :))) is she really 7 years old? :)))

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Hyun-sung's niece is a gem.

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omg, I write nephew not niece *my bad 🤣
yess, she's a gem, she's so lovely and her acting is natural

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She really is an amazing young actress.

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I really love the mum-daughter scenes. They're so funny.

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I’ve dropped Royal Inspector for this one. It’s a bit slow sometimes but Rowoon is bringing energy into episodes that sometimes veer toward the depressing with the second mail leads tragic backstory and the main girl being so restrained all the time.

Plus you’re just not quite sure where it’s going. The tropes are there. But the characters aren’t quite taking the bait. She really Is firm on breaking up with the guy. And the guy stopped harassing her so so much after 1-2 episodes.

As for the married sister, are they trying to hint that her husband secretly gay and the cafe owner and him like each other?

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"As for the married sister, are they trying to hint that her husband secretly gay and the cafe owner and him like each other?"

Ooh, that's my theory too. I hope if that is the case, they don't play it through the comedic angle. There's already been the scene where the sister thought the chef liked her, so it seems it might be heading that way...

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That storyline is a bit upsetting because they have a child together.. I don't care if someone is gay or not but its totally screwed up when you marry someone and have a child with them because you are screwing up many lives.. its just wrong.. the middle sister really think s the husband loves her.. they even have a kid.. how will this affect the child growing up in a conservative society.. what if the daughter wants to get married and they ask about her parents? Some families will reject her.. it just makes me mad because if the doctor dad is gay, then he is incredibly selfish person.. worse than BM Lee

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@candiland I feel the same way. I don't want her marriage to break. Yes, the sister is a handful, but she doesn't deserve that. She seems to have made her family her world and having that taken away because her husband is gay and decided to have an affair would be so heartbreaking!

I think what might happen is that the chef is gay and the husband, being a close friend, knows his secret and doesn't want him set up with his sister-in-law.

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I like that scenario alot better !

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he may indeed be worse than BM Lee but one of the things that I really like seeing in K-dramas is the more realistic portrayal of gay people. In MY UNFAMILIAR FAMILY we had a gay doctor who we could genuinely hate for much of the show (along with his mother). Gay people can be good or bad just like everyone else- in short they are all too human just like the rest of us.

So yes he is incredibly selfish if we are right about where he is coming from. And you are right about his messing with other's lives. How wonderfully realistic if this is so.

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Yes, people are people, it would just suck because so many lives would be affected. However, we shall see soon enough. Regardless, if the doctor is gay or not, something is off with this marriage

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I couldn't quite lay my finger on what was going on with the middle sister till my friend pointed out the the possible husband/chef aspect. From what I've seen I don't think the husband is cheating, but he probably has feelings or is at least questioning his sexuality.

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Seems we're getting a lot of gay in kdramas the past few years. Hope it doesn't end up like U.S. where the shows imply that half the men are gay. Seriously, this is not what I watch dramas for...

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So agree with you.

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why not though? gay people are real and exist and so, should very much be represented within media.

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I definitely think its worth reflecting on the fact that not all dramas are or should be created for a heterosexual viewer who only wants hetero romances. Just because the vast majority of dramas are set up this way, doesn't mean it has to be that way, or should be that way.

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That's so incredibly homophobic and inconsiderate of you. Assuming you're a cisgender female which I'm sure you are you have hundreds of thousands of kdramas throughout the decades that tell your story. You can see a drama about a straight woman falling for her ideal partner anytime. People in the LGBTQ community don't get that same privilege since people try to kill us in some countries just because of something that's out of our control. If you don't want to watch a show with an LGBTQ character no one is forcing you; you can watch lots of other dramas since thanks to people like you lots of other innocent people struggle to see themselves in media and be represented in society. You really thought you did something; this comment is not the popular take you thought it would be.

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I am very, very pleasantly surprised by Rowoon. I have to admit I was not expecting much from him - his role in Extraordinary You was a flat one intentionally, but I’ll admit I though it was an easy lift for an idol.

Here, he’s remarkable. His micro expressions, the clear thought he’s put into his character, even the offered hand during the initial confrontation - he is VERY GOOD. It’s been truly delightful to realize he’s not just another pretty face; he’s an instinctive actor and he’s bringing just the right involvement to this role.

He reminds me a little of Im Si Wan in “Run On” in his ability to thoroughly incorporate character beyond line delivery and set pieces. Im Si Wan is currently teaching a masterclass in how to stay true to a quirky, aloof character while making him relatable, but Rowoon has managed to imbue his character with a lot of layered accessibility so his off-putting scripted position really ended after episode 2. We all know things got “better” after those episodes, but just reading the script it could have stayed pretty bad - Rowoon’s character detail has done a lot of heavy lifting in alleviating both the first two eps and any ongoing heavy-handedness in the script.

I’m very surprised, and impressed. That was not an easy turnaround, and he’s more than pulled it off.

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If it was vicious from Jae-Shin to make Hyun Seung having a new Sunbae, I think it was a good thing for him to learn to handle different things. Clearly, Sunbae Kang is not caring as much as Song-A (we can understand why Hyun Seung is liking her so much now) and he must handle the typical employee-sunbae hierarchy.

The seperation was good for both of them. Song-A missed her adorable puppy :p I like how she's firm about what she wants with Jae-Shin.

Jae-Shin is pitiful. But it doesn't forgive what he did to Song-A...

I like the side characters too. There are interesting elements about Chae Yeon-Seung, like the fact her daughter asked why she doesn't have a job and it made her doubt, the fact her husband is suspicious. He's too perfect like he was trying to compensate something. With Chae Ji-Seung, the reason she broke her engagement and didn't date since. The scene with Lee Jae-Woon asking her for a meal and his secretary saying it's not possible was pretty funny :D

There was so much cuteness in these episodes. Drunk Hyun Seung is so adorable, trying to feed her, even if Song-A was angry she still did it :D

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The scene of Hyun Seung emptying his frigde reminded me, Rowoon raiding a shop for KBS show, the face of the producer was memorable. Never underestimate his big arms!

https://youtu.be/t1CECcq_8cQ?t=511

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The drunk but remembering the next day scene actually gave me Encounter vibes.

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Oh, which scene? I watched Encounter but doesn't really remembery anything from this drama.

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I think it was episode 3 or 4, but Park Bo Gum character went to a team dinner and got drunk and did all these hilarious things, he woke up the next morning remembering everything he did and was embarrassed. It was really funny.

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@candiland oh thank you, it reminds me something but I will re-watch it :)

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I just re-watched Encounter, and I recognized this comparison right away. Dried squid he pulled from his pocket, haha.

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Haha, yes his tie with a zipper on it and how he said he looked good in a suit.. He got two for 1+1... lol love that drama

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I really love that Hyun-seung didnt try to influence her decision about Europe one way or another. It shows that he really is trying to respect her boundaries. I thought we saw a lot of that in these eps--Hyun-seung following Song Ahs lead and not pushing. And I thought it was stinking cute that the only pushy thing he did was try to feed her when he was drunk. Here he is drunk as a skunk shoving oranges and yogurt at her -- for her health--and once he was convinced she was ok he stumbled away, snuggled up with his pillow and went to sleep.

I love that his creepy oversteps in the first few eps have been shown to be an anomaly in his pe3rsnoality and that everything since then has been showing that.

For me, my favorite part in the eps was Song-Ah watching Hyun-seungs happy dance to the news that she was staying. After being treated like crap by LJS I thought she really needed to see the pure, unfiltered effect that she has on HS especially when he wasnt aware to filter it. So much of her relationship with LJS was lies that every scene with SA and LJS feels like were watching blinders be forcibly removed from her eyes. He was the perfect boyfriend for 2 years because he carefully controlled how she saw him and when she saw him. I think before SA could move forward with HS she needed to see him when he wasnt aware so she could trust that hes not as emotionally manipulative as LJS.
I hope that makes sense.

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Your description of why Song-A needs to see how un-manipulative Hyun-seung is entirely on point. Just as all women are not the same neither are all men: Song-A is getting to see how strikingly different Hyun-seung is from LJS.

But this difference comes with its drawbacks too: Hyung-seung's oversteps in the first two episodes were not an anomaly- they were entirely in character for him (other than touching her lips- and we have some reason to believe that he immediately regretted that impulsive action). This young man is highly protective (but not possessive like LJS). Song-A was one of the people he cares about and after giving LJS a month to come clean with her he was exasperated and decided to take steps to correct the situation in the most effective way possible. The reveal was harsh and even brutal- but it was effective and efficient and it worked. Even Song-A has admitted that this was probably the only way that she could get out of that toxic situation. But did he have a right to do this? No. But Song-A is someone he cares for so he did it anyway. Hyun-seung is not completely perfect- he can do some very disconcerting things when he thinks they are needed. He can act ruthlessly when ruthlessness is called for.

But remember this- Song-A now knows this about him. She is not viewing him through rose colored glasses. If she accepts him it means understanding that part of his character. Actually I can understand why should would accept this imperfect man. After all, there are many, many worse things in this world than having Genghis Khan backing you up.

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You know what? I agree. Yes I do.

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@missvictrix I'm with you on that 'felt authentic', i too was enjoying how quite accurate the scenes of Hyun Seung navigating new team and new dynamic with the reality,,with what I've experienced :D
I like this drama from the get go, with some uncomfortableness on ending of ep 1, but I guess i can overlook that blip because with every ep my joy of watching it grows,,just like Song Ah and Hyun Seung's feeling toward each other :)
I echoed a commenter above on middle sister's husband, I suspect that he and the chef has relationship, especially with the drama shows us how the middle sister reacted to the possibility of Hyun Seung likes a guy instead of a girl,,that could be a hint for what's in store for us viewers when the reality is of her husband's boyfriend?
okay, for me the highlight of the 2 ep this week is obviously the cuteness between our (soon to be) OTP, I'm glad that their chemistry is there, but seriously i felt for Ro Woon when he has to lean on Woo Jin Ah's shoulder, gosh how far he had to bend his head and shoulder because of the (quite extreme) height difference between them?? i laughed but still found it cute <3 yess, bring on the cuteness!

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I decided to drop the drama and just read the weecaps. But now after reading your weecaps I think I will check out a few scenes or watch it over the weekend.
I like the idea of him moving to a new team. I Think it's better this way if they eventually decide to start dating.

You didn't watch Graceful family missvictrix? How? why? lol. Lee Kyu-han was in it.

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GRACEFUL FAMILY was fabulous.

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Oh a thing, we didn't adress, it's the fact nobody told Lee Hyo-Joo that her future husband was cheating on her. I mean as a viewers we know her personality but the characters don't know.

If I was her, I would like to know before my wedding that my future husband is a liar. But everybody is hidding the truth. I understand that Song-A is not really the right person to tell her, people could think she wants a revenge.

But if she doesn't know, she is a victim as much as Song-A.

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I agree with conditions... Lee Hyo Joo is not a victim because she is blackmailing a man who obviously doesnt want to marry her into marriage BUT she is a victim in the sense that he did cheat on her for 2 years and pretended that he did care for her somewhat. She didnt deserve that but her mental state also has to be taken into consideration

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She's figuring it out now. BTW, does anyone else feel that Song Ah looks quite a bit older than Hyun Seung (she is 5 years older in real life)? The story doesn't portray this as a Noona drama, so I guess we're not supposed to notice or?

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She's one year older and 2 years older as a sunbae. It's quite important in Korean society. So I guess, it's still a noona romance.

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Hyo-joo is figuring it now- and it now becomes an important part of the story.

To me the saddest part of the relationships Hyo-joo, Jae-shin, and the Chairman is the way way everyone sees the upcoming marriage. Hyo-joo emotionally blackmailed both Jae-shin and her father. Hyo-joo knows that and so she is insecure and therefore even more jealous of Song-A. Jae-shin thinks he has been torn away from the woman he loves- but did he really love Song-A? I do not think so. The Chairman deeply resents having a 'undesirable' son-in-law foisted upon him and makes no attempt to hide his feelings.

If everyone took a step back and let go of their preconceptions things would change. The chairman might see that locking the hyper competent Jae-shin into his company through marriage is a great investment- and isn't that what daughters are for? He should then look into what to do about Jae-shin's father as a way of protecting his investment. Jae-shin should look at his wife as an escape from hell- he may never love her but he can still appreciate her and take good care of her. Hyo-joo- who actually does value Jae-shin (which shows you that she is no dummy)- might be a lot less insecure if she could see that Jae-shin values her- and that her father appreciates what she has done for her family. The truth is that this impending marriage makes objective sense- and not every marriage has to be a love match. In fact, in the currently airing RUN ON we right now are seeing what can happen in the long run when marriage is from a love match- Assemblyman Ki and his wife at on the verge of a divorce because their marriage was a love match but otherwise never made objective sense. They have stuck it out for a long time only and solely because they loved each other, but time has taken its toll and it looks like the end of the road is fast approaching.

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Hyo Joo somehow really scares me. She sees JS clearly. She understands that he manipulates. She understands that her fiancé doesn’t love her. She loves him more and warns him not to think she is weak because of that. We’ve seen evidence of that in the fact that she is ready to fake suicide to guilt someone who doesn’t love her into marrying her [which is what scares me]. I fear an objective marriage will never be enough for her. She will want her “love” reciprocated. I think she has a lot to learn about love. That being said, I do think they are a good match and it would be wonderful if they could grow toward each other but I don’t know if that will happen if she starts to threaten Song-Ah [and she has been checking out the competition]. Guilting JS and threatening his first love is going to push him away instead of drawing him near and will add extra reinforced bars to the cage he is already in. He might get the sudden urge to break free if it is too much for him [not sure if that will happen because he is in the cage because he is trying to escape from his father in the first place]. I hope both JS and Hyo Joo learn about love and end up together.

For me, the Chairman seems rather fearful. Perhaps he has a back story of being stabbed in the back by a supposed friend and is trying to protect his son from that. Yet he has no sway over his son or his daughter who seem to want JS in their lives. Perhaps he intuits that JS doesn’t reciprocate their feelings. And he would not be wrong as it doesn’t seem that JS considers JW as a friend. He sees him as a deal he made and has to honor and Hyo Joo is a consequence of this deal. I am interested to see how the story plays out.

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I had not seen the chairman as fearful yet you may be right about that.

And yes, Hyo-joo is definitely scary. My hypothetical alternative is very unlikely to come about.

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Did anyone else just absolutely die with laughter when drunk Hyun-Seung pushed his drunk co-worker out of the way when he saw Song-Ah? Like the dude practically went horizontal!

I've watched that scene so many times now and it doesn't stop getting funny XD

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Oh yeah and it was totally deserved :D

Hopefully, he was drunk too, so he won't remember this part.

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Yes, these episodes were super cute laying the groundwork for our hopefully future couple. My takeaways were more from Song A than HS. We already know how HS feels but most of us assumed Song A didn't feel that way and I would say that is not true.

Song A has grown quite used to her Hoobae and having him around her and you can see she doesnt like him having a new trainer. I smiled when Song A knew the sound of his voice when he was talking to the other trainer and how she came to get him when he was being hazed into the new team. Song A seems like she cares for HS but doesnt want to acknowledge or admit it. BM LEE did not pull a rabbit out of his hat when he kept mentioning HS to Song A. BM Lee mentioned HS because even he sees something there. Remember all of the teammates actually thought they were dating ( HS and Song A originally) because they were so close.

I actually wished she did take the Europe project somewhat because it is a great career opportunity and my ambitious side was like girl this is your chance. No man should interfere with your career. So I am on the fence with that one..

Hmm as for HS i have a sneaky suspicious we may see HS's ex girlfriend at some point.

BM Lee is still living a victim mentality as Song A so accurately pointed out.

My focus were on the main leads this week, although the side stories were fun. I know some people think HS is pushy but I would say he is pushy when he needs to be and he gives Song A space when she needs it. Whatever he is doing, he is finally forcing Song A to look at him as a man and not a hoobae

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Oh, I'm pretty sure Hyun-Seung's ex will peep out later too. His reaction about cheating was genuine for Song-A but because he felt this pain too.

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But now that Hyun-seung has developed a strong attachment to Song-A what point would there be to a cheating ex showing up? Unless it is to give Song-A greater empathy for HS? Hyun-seung is not a weak man- his cheating ex did indeed give him more empathy and understanding for Song-A and strengthened his resolve to do something for SA but that is all. Cheating ex- no matter how much HS once loved her- has no ability to threaten even the partially formed relationship of SA and HS. Hyung-seung may have a massive scar on his heart from the ex but that is all there is to it: He is hurt but there is no possibility that he would even be tempted to go back to her- and Song-A already knows Hyun-seung well enough that she would not feel threatened by the ex. So there is no real dramatic need for the ex to ever appear and it would be sloppy writing if she did.

So I may be wrong but I do not see the ex re-appearing.

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Not sure why the ex would return either but it was hinted at in the conversation between Se-Rim and HS (the ex was back and did he run into her; I don’t remember the exact words). Perhaps she would serve the purpose of him getting closure? Entering into a new relationship might bring up old fears for HS which he hasn’t dealt with yet.

I agree with you though that the ex would not form a threat to a relationship between HS and SA.

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Agreed, I think the ex is coming too! Did anyone get any vibes about Se-Rim kind of liking HS and Kim Jeon Hyuk [the owner of the bar] trying to hook them up?

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Se-Rim looks like she has feelings for HS and the chairs were cleary an excuse. I like the owner of the bar, he's funny.

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Song-A has turned down Europe NOT as much because she wants to be with Hyun-seung (although that may be a factor) but more because she wants to get away from BM Lee, who is now in full sexual harrassment mode. Even if he stops entirely right now can she be sure he won't return to it later?

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I think she loves her life in Korea : her job, her friend/roomate and her colleagues. She doesn't work with BM Lee because it's awkward.
Her relationship with her mother is weird. She was a little bit hard with her. The mother didn't seem to know about the father's cheating and is she in the deny?

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I wondered about that also- mom did not know that dad cheated. Had she known- at least once he had passed away- she and her daughter would clearly be in a better place because this has clearly made a difference in Song-ah's behavior.

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Maybe the parallel between her story and her mother's one will help their relationship.

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Jae-Shin seems rather tragic; obviously he grew up with no parental affection or appropiate models. He's intelligent, but damaged, and his trying to figure what direction to take his life is superficial. I suspect he will learn and improve before the drama is over. Oh, that father of his, what a slime! And the director's rich grandfather is not that great of a human being also.

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His father is deeply manipulative, has no conscience and knows exactly what to do to push his son’s buttons. Obviously, this man thinks only of his own needs and gives no further consideration to what he is doing to his son. To con others is one thing but to con your son … not sure you can sink any lower and if you are redeemable. What surprised me in the scene was that JS was willing to be manipulated. This seems to be a pattern with him!! It is something he wants to deal with himself [because he did not allow JW to help him] and yet he is clearly not capable of handling the situation!!

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His father is one of the best representations of a sociopath that I have seen in a drama.

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I loved the scene where Song-ah watches Hyun-seung do his victory dance. You can tell that she is pretty happy about it- it is like she is just beginning to see him as being her guy.

I too found his sister's family troubling. What is the story here?

One thing that I did not like in this episode- that felt off- was when Lee Hyo-joo showed up at the event where Hyun-seung had been pressed into serving as the makeup model but did not go inside once she saw Song-A com out. It is not just that this was petty on her part- it was unreal dramatically.

I do not find Jae-woon nefarious at all. A bit spoiled and not as competent as his friend but what we have seen is that he has in fact bought a clue when it comes to Hyun-seung's sister Ji-seung. It probably started when he saw her at the tennis club- while he may have mis-understood her family situation what he discovered is that she is not a 'peasant'- and now he understands that he needs to approach her in a different way. He is right about that. There is a reason that the beautiful Ji-seung is still unmarried: She prefers to run the family business in splendid isolation and has developed a whole host of ways to fend off suitors. So Jae-woon has adopted a more devious (but not nefarious) approach and it is working.

Which brings us to my hypothesis as to the dramatic reason for Ji-seung cancelling Hyo-joo's wedding dress. At first it really bothered me that Hyung-seung showed such foolish immaturity in asking that of her. Foolish because if Hyo-joo is removing your rival why on earth would you want to through a wrench into that? Immature because this hurts the family business. Then I realized why the writer needed to do this: It gives someone in Jae-woon's family a reason for objecting to his marriage to Ji-seung. Socially Ji-seung is exactly the girl that they would otherwise want Jae-woon to marry- His dad would probably trip over himself in his eagerness to agree. So, in order to have the roadblock to the union that is such an ingrained trope in a rom-com the writer has come up with a different hurdle: Hyo-joo will now have a major grudge against her and, being the manipulative person that she is, she will definitely try to put a stop to this happening out of spite.

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I agree with everything youve said here except for Hyo-joo leaving when she saw Song-Ah.
Hyo-joo went to size up her rival. I very much get the feeling that she feels like Lee Jae Shin is hers. Shes risked a suicide attempt to secure him (I very much do not think she was suicidal. I think she risked an attempt (or something that looked like an attempt) to secure him to herself). Shes not going to let some assistant come and steal him away. I very much dont think Hyo-Joo is the kind of woman who goes to that kind of event. It seemed like something more for employees. She went because she knows about Song-Ah. Its one thing to know/suspect that your man has a side piece (that he loves more than you) its quite another to look that woman in the eye woth both of you knowing your roles. It felt like she was sussing Song-Ah out. Making sure she had the right woman. Seeing what she was made of. So if the time comes that she needs to take her out? She can. Thats how I read and remember that scene.

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I have known someone who did a suicide attempt to manipulate someone that was about to break up with them. It was definitely not a real attempt (they swallowed a bunch of pills in front of her at her home whilst her family were home). It was pure emotional manipulation and I get the feeling Hyo-Jin is the same.

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As someone who has had to deal with the aftermath of a failed relationship with a more senior coworker, I laughed when Songah told Hyunseung that her ex "was not that kind of person" and wouldn't let personal matters interfere with business matters. There is no one who is professional and not petty when it comes to failed relationships, especially when they're in a position of power and are unlikely to face consequences for acting badly. Hyunseung has taken the abuse with an amazing amount of grace, though.

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Ok, beanies. This is ep 5 and 6 and let me tell you: I had to FF some parts.... I got bored.

I don't find this drama bad, oh no... Melty was bad. I don't find this drama good either. I don't hate the characters, but I don't like them either...
The main love story, our OTP, they are boring. The work they do is boring, the companies are boring, the secondary characters are boring...
At least, yes... I have to, agree there had been a few cute moments, mostly in these couple of episodes. But still.. in general. They are boring for my taste. I don't feel desire to watch the next episode and find out what happens next.

So, maybe I will drop this one??? Maybe only follow the recaps??

I feel it's a pity, because I love a noona romance, but I am not convinced with this one 😑😑😑😑😑😒😒😒😒😒

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rowoon is so silly and fun and watching his character bring out the smiles in song ah is truly delightful. i didn't think i'd love this drama but I'm actually growing to enjoy it a lot, even if i mainly keep it on in the background. it's very endearing :')

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As episodes went on, we got to see why BM Lee and Song-ah came together and why they are not meant for each other. BM Lee and Song-ah never had real, happy and normal family growing up. BM Lee’s father was cruel and manipulative to his son. Song-ah’s father as implied was much worse. Song-ah’s family was not outright abusive to her but we did see that all was not well. Her father was a cheater (as implied it was worse than being a cheater), her mother buried her head sand and pretended everything was sunshine and rainbow.
BM Lee and Song-ah are the adult ones in their family. This suffering and past brought them together but that is only common thing in them.
As show goes on, we see how different they are from each other. BM Lee is manipulative and selfish.
Song-ah is caring and nurturing. She might seem as cold and distant but I think it is her armor.
He is not outright villain but for him success matters more.

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