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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

missvictrix

Currently weecapping: Sunbae, Don’t Put on That Lipstick and River Where the Moon Rises

Vincenzo: Okay, so the truck of doom at the end of Episode 3 got me, and then the AHHH twist at the end of Episode 4 also got me, with all of its theatricality, so maybe I’m getting more into it? I’m still not enjoying Jeon Yeo-bin’s performance here much, but I actually like that we’re getting more from Taecyeon and Kwak Dong-yeon — more meaning a different “more” than we expected. I like it.

Sisyphus: I know this show is only about 68% of what it could be… but I’m still entertained. Honestly, I’m crushing hard on Jo Seung-woo/Tae-sul, from his quips to his mental calculations to him holding his strained back (mood!) and wrapped up in a houndstooth blanket. He’s so fun, and definitely keeping me watching. Then all of a sudden Episode 6 happened and I got all re-invested. I love all the mind games and layers and levels they’re (trying to) pull off here — it’s fast and confusing and not perfect, but I appreciate the effort, and those twisty moments they keep injecting. Not loving the idea of shoehorning a romance in here (so unnecessary) but I suppose this is dramaland, even if it doesn’t feel like it?

 

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Currently recapping: Vincenzo

River Where the Moon Rises: I was already pretty meh about this one, and then came the Ji-soo mess. I have no idea how they’ll handle replacing him and if it’ll change the story at all, but it’s bound to be jarring. I’m curious enough about how they’ll deal with this that I might watch a couple more episodes, but I’m pretty sure I’ll be dropping it.

Sisyphus: The plot of this is very The Terminator with a group from the future trying to take out the Important Person in the past while a bodyguard from the future tries to stop them. I like it. I’m not very emotionally invested, but it’s a fun, easy watch.

Beyond Evil: Even though I’m not a fan of procedurals or these kinds of crime dramas in general, I checked this one out for Yeo Jin-gu and Shin Ha-kyun. There’s certainly nothing new about the premise, but I like it better than I expected. So far, it’s character-focused which I appreciate, especially since Shin Ha-kyun is killing it as Dong-shik. I also like the small-town setting that makes everything feel more intimate and tense. Even the policing bits feel more grounded than flashy. As long as it doesn’t get too procedural, I might stick with it.

 
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River where the moon rises. I’m not invested at all in the OTP, so let’s see how it goes with the new ML, although my main problem is FL who is boring, and let’s admit it, compared to Go Geun and MoYong there’s nothing they can do. General and herbalist are HOT together. I still hate the little girl and I can’t understand the twins ever made a career as assassins. Also, I’m asking for two favors: make the little girl and the music disappear. Please.

L.U.C.A: The beginning. Dropped. If I’m going to watch a nonsense drama, I’ll stick to the two following ones.

Sisyphus: The myth. If you haven’t watched episode 5 you can skip it. Nothing happens. NOTHING. But on episode 6 I saw light at the end of the tunnel. Things starting to make sense. Not that I know what the hell is happening but makes more sense. Also, I don’t think I’ve ever met such an unethical doctor in dramaland: she treats the guy she dated, also his brother, dates his best friend to take advantage of the situation, and is the daughter of one of the board members of Quantum and Time. I’m sorry but that was a very lazy writing. I’m watching because CSW and PSH together are fantastic. I love every interaction they make. It’s not that they have an amazing chemistry and you can feel sparkles everywhere, but they are so GOOD together. Wow. I love them.

Vincenzo. Episodes are 85 minutes long but they don’t seem to be that long. I’m having so much fun and I’m ready to watch Taec being a baddie, although I’m a bit worried about where does this leave KDY. I’m having fun, and considering all that’s been happening, that’s A LOT. Have I ever told you I love Taec? Because I love Taec.

18 Again. Loving it. LDH continues to amaze me. It’s only 4 episodes left for me and I’m already gathering the tissues.

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Taec, I love him too. First kdrama crush. Cinderella's sister, terrible drama, but that is where I fell in love with him. He was so cute.

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I LOVED JUNG-WOO!!!

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River: Now you have spoken my mind, the FL is boring. I heard so much praises on KSH, but I couldn't get into her dramas, except Nokdu where JDY makes her more alive than usual. I think she does great in angsty roles like the queen here and in Goblin, but that's about it.

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Still the best actress of her generation and the most popular one. She makes all he roles come alive and will walk away with all the awards at the end of the year.

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The awards....she'll have to go against the lead actresses from Mr. Queen and It's OK not to be OK. And they were solid.

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Agree! If it's KBS Awards, then I see her winning something there. Just about everyone wins at those network awards, whether they deserve to or not. But if we're talking Baeksangs, etc., then that stan should forget it. There are way stronger performances by other actresses, including the two you mentioned.

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Hey I completed 18 again. The show is almost pitch perfect.

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I'll tell you next week!

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Yeah, Sisyphus, I was bored to hell in the beginning of Ep.5, and I just dropped it, and thinking of rewatching it sometimes later this weekend (also to wait for next episode of Vincenzo). Now with what you said, now I see the light at the end of the tunnel ...

About Vincenzo, by the way, I am starting to think the show is romanticize the mafia in Italy. I am not sure if it is good or bad. Having European experience like you, @eazal, I think I will discuss with you when the recap is up.

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@eazal I agree regarding River. It's unfortunate, really, because it seemed to have all the elements for it to be a great show.

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Soft spot for Taec too, for sure his acting isn’t that good compared to many others. But the boy tries and tries and he gets better each time (no matter how little)
To a certain extent I think he’s like Nam Joo Hyuk. The boy next door you will always give a second chance or a third or a fourth...and celebrate every small victory hahaaha

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18 again is so good! Oh my God, I'm so happy for you lol. LDH absolutely slaughters his role in that.

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Hi Beanies! I didn't watch much this week. It's like the world doesn't care if I have dramas to watch 😖

Ongoing
Vincenzo - More trucks of doom! More fires! Is it bad that I revel in the craziness. The only thing I could do without is the FL's schtick. Her performance is subpar compared to the rest of the cast.

Sunbae - Already ranted on the weekly thread 😑

River Where the Moon Rises - With all the off air drama, I don't know how to feel about the show now. Just feel bad for the other artists who clearly put in a lot of time and effort into this. Will definitely tune if for In Woo's take on On Dal though.

Sisyphus - Ep 6 was exciting even if the characters' actions rarely make sense. And I get to learn things like calculating the date using the azimuth of the moon so 🤷‍♀️

New Shows
Mouse - Only seen Ep 1 but this really FELT like a thriller. Was on tenterhooks not knowing who else would get killed next and how.

Weekend Plan - Continue Beyond Evil and Vincenzo.

C-dramas
Still watching My Heroic Husband and Love Unexpected but only to complete them. The former truly lost the plot with its bandit arc and the latter became far too angst-ridden for a romcom.
My cdrama drug of choice right now is definitely Word of Honor. I'm watching it very, very slowly to accommodate its excruciatingly slow subbing schedule.

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If you REALLY want to revel in craziness, try Penthouse.

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I think that might be too much craziness even for me from what I hear 🤨😬

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About My Heroic Husband I feel it became uninteresting and predictable even before the bandit plots. One could see the twist coming long way before it was revealed. I believe there was no reason to drag out the plot and insert random politics and war into the story. They could have used the episodes to develop the relationship between the leads and given the FL more scenes to shine. That's often the problems with cdramas, once the 'hook' plotline is over they will add bunch of other unrelated story lines to make up the episodes.

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True. In fact for the "best merchant in the city" the FL is supposed to be, she doesn't actually DO much other than agree with her husband's schemes. So much potential to develop her story rather than all these strange spin-offs. And I just found that the show ends on a cliffhanger for Season 2. What a waste of time.

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Yes! The FL was supposed to prove that she could survive in a male-dominated field. I thought they both will bring their ideas together to run their shop BUT no only the ML gets to be "heroic" and the FL just goes along with him despite not knowing his exact plan.

I recently came across a cdrama reviewer on youtube and according to her this drama was boycotted by many women in China because the original author of the novel never intended women to be their target audience. The webnovel basically belongs to a genre called 'Stud/Harem Literature' written by men and is a power fantasy, where the ML is the 'Stud' desired/admired by every women he comes across. THAT made me understand all the problems I had with this drama, especially with the ML.

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Oh that stud/harem literature part explains why most of the show is just the ML solving the problems of women - the former dancer turned restaurant owner, the other dancer, the bandit general, the assassin...🙄

And yeah I understand my problems with the show now too!

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Vincenzo - episode 3 was good. I especially liked how Lawyer Dad knew more than he had let on... and how he was aware of his lost fight as a too good person and asked Vincenzo for help. The ending still shocked me (despite my expectations how things would evolve). Episode 4 was a bit too over the top for me, though I loooved how our Former Prosecutor got to taste her own medicine 😁 (I also liked that Heroine is now tuned down a bit 😉).
Q: Who is the supplier of Vincenzo's lighters?? 😆

Sunbae - although tough to watch, my favourite scenes this week were those with Second Noona. And I actually liked that Songah decided to go to Europe... but... what happened????

Supper - I didn't like much Dajung's recent actions, though she did say some truthful words to Youngshin - Junghoon should share his problems with his current girlfriend and not with Youngshin.

Brocade - I planned to watch, but instead got sucked into Storm Eye - the special unit investigations are nicely balanced with family scenes (I love Ma Shang with his parents)... and there is even first love... and forced cooperation 😁

Future Shows:
Jasper Liu is the main lead in Chinese version of Clean With Passion For Now and now I HAVE TO watch!!

Also, new KBS weekender has Go Won Hee (Waikiki) and Kim Kyung Nam (our Shin Jae from Eternal King). I will likely check.

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What I like about A Good Supper. A lot of what the characters say make sense. Da Jung was right about Jung Hoon breaking another girl’s heart by carrying on with an ‘emotional affair’ with Young Shim.

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I have seen Jasper Liu in other shows (he is very good) and I absolutely loved CLEAN WITH PASSION FOR NOW- but what Chinese actress could possibly take the place of Kim Yoo-jung?

I too am looking forward to the new weekender.

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We will see what Shen Yue will show us (A Love So Beautiful, new Meteor Garden)...

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But if it's Chinese, it means they will dub his voice? I don't watch a lot of Chinese dramas because of the dubbing. But I like both actors.

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Yes if this was Taiwanese I would have definitely given it a go (although I didn't like Clean with Passion) but if it's Chinese I think the dubbing alone will put me off.

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I liked it except the addition of the psy who was useless and the stupid and cruel separation.

I really can't bear their dubbing, I can't focus on the story because of it.

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The dubbing puts me off too. it's a shame because Jasper is a sweetheart

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Most of the C-dramas that we watch are subtitled and not dubbed. Which is good because Mandarin is a lovely laguage.

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Most C dramas are dubbed, especially ancient dramas, which is why they all sound distractingly same. Check out Chinese voice actors.

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What I meant, it's that if the actor doesn't speak a perfect Mandarin (or without accent), they will dub him.

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Just adding on clarification in case you, or anyone reading the comments, is not aware:

Many, if not most, chinese dramas re-dub the actors' voices. From what I've read, there are a variety of reasons, including to make the pronunciation standard, and because it's easier/ cheaper to do post- production.

Listen to Shen Yue in A Love So Beautiful (real voice) vs. Meteor Garden (dubbed), to see the difference.

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oh, it's not a taiwanese drama?? yuck, they might dub him if he doesn't speak fluent chinese... wahhh.

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jasper is such a doll... but maybe i'll have to try it. i didn't like the kdrama one for some reason...

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River: I am enjoying this drama for what it is and the STUNNNING costumes. Everyone in the palace just SERVES ALL THE LOOKS.

L.U.C.A: Well, well the cult has arrived. I feel bad for our leads. KRW once again is killing it for me in terms of showing his longing and vulnerability. As to why LDH's character believes anything these people say, she is a brand new mother traumatized and kidnapped. Her daughter has weird powers. I also predict KRW's character will die at the end, it seems inevitable.

Sisyphus: I am here and I am watching. LOL. It is isn't good, but PSH and CSW have surprisingly great chemistry. So I will continue despite the nonsense.

Mouse: Here is where I rant. This writer has a fundamental lack of understanding of psychopaths. Also Charles Manson never killed anyone, his followers did. Also most tests show him to be a sociopath. Ordinary people kill people all the time without being psychopaths. In fact the vast majority of murder is done by regular everyday people. Most psychopaths don't going around killing people. I also don't do mice, it was one too many, SHUDDER, lol. That is why I am out.

Beyond Evil: I was bored.

Vincenzo: I am starting to like it more. I can't wait to see Taec as a villain.

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I need all the bling blings in River, and the silk dresses. I’m going to enjoy e action in palace just to watch beautiful things.

I tried to watch Mouse despite being told it was a mistake because it’s too gruesome. I like crime/ police shows so that’s no problem for me, but I was out after 14 minutes. That whole scene when angry people were discussing a possible law where Government wanted to make compulsory tests on fetus and force parents to abort it they had then “psychopath gene”. Well that scene was so badly written that I thought that if I was rolling my eyes on the lazy writing on minute 14 it just wouldn’t work.

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The gruesome aspect doesn't bother me either, I cringed more at the mice than the murdering. lol, idk what that says about me, but that government scene pissed me off too.

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But did you know (I found this out today) that real research has done into the “‘psychopath gene” and while researchers generally think it was taken too far, it has been used by courts to inform sentencing decisions a few times. (One of the problems with the research is that the sample is skewed to people who have already committed criminal acts).

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I did know this and that is the problem with the research. You need a control group. It mostly negates the efficacy of the research.

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That’s what I found interesting about it - that despite it being very obviously flawed and with objections from researchers, people (lawyers) have apparently managed to put it to use. So I can (depressingly) imagine that an a situation as portrayed in Mouse, non-science people looking for an easy solution/good news story to boost approval would leap on an idea like fetal testing and make much more of it than is really justifiable.

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The River looks! 💚

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Oh nooo, I haven't seen Mouse but I am interested in it. I am a true crime junkie and it is so maddening when drama writers are incapable of doing research. Like, if you mess up Charles Manson, how much research did you actually do? I will watch the first episodes out of curiosity but if the writing is obviously made of surface level research and understanding of a criminal mind, I am out too.

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In dramas, they depict writers with assistant writers, so what are they doing with all those work hours? Sometimes I wonder if they really did do the research and decide to ignore it altogether, not understanding this is not one of those artistic license sort of situation.

I am planning to pick up Mouse this weekend. I hope I'm able to ignore the mistakes enough to enjoy it!

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Honestly, Come and Hug me survived because of the leads and Kim Kyung-Nam's stunning performance. Otherwise it too had many mistakes on psychopaths.

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Kim Kyun Nam's performance was the best thing in this drama 😍

The story was kinda repetitive at the end but the growth of his character was the best part.

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Right? The constant flashbacks was kinda annoying and a like a bit much? Surely we can remember what happened an episode or two ago lol. Overall, I liked the fresh/new faces at the time. Jang Ki-yong did a great job for his 1st lead role. Sadly, it seems that was his career high as of now. A solid show overall, anchored by the ML/FL's relationship/performances.

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Well to be fair, I think CSW could've chemistry with a dead tree :3 At least in my eyes, he's such a charming/great actor. Chemistry to me isn't just romantic, but a nice synergy you've with your partner. I feel really fortunate that he did a drama so soon after his last one ended. Considering he seldom does dramas, here's hoping he doesn't disappear forever from drama land after Sisyphus ends lol :O

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TIMES (Ep 3-4) : Times took a pivot in Episode 4 which starts to cloud the time travel foundation of the show. Originally, the writer based the story on a Predestination Paradox which occurs when the actions of a person traveling back in time becomes part of past events, and may ultimately causes the event he is trying to prevent to take place. This results in a ‘temporal causality loop’ in which Event 1 in the past influences Event 2 in the future (time travel to the past) which then causes Event 1 to occur, with this circular causal loop of events ensuring that history is not altered by the time traveler, and that any attempts to stop something from happening in the past will simply lead to the cause itself, instead of stopping it. This paradox suggests that things are always destined to turn out the same way, and that whatever has happened must happen.

But by the end Episode 4, the changes in the past changed the future with the father being alive. Is the writer mixing time travel tropes (which makes things make less sense). In Ray Bradbury’s 1952 science fiction story, “A Sound of Thunder,” a character used a time machine to travel to the deep past, where he stepped on a butterfly. Upon returning to the present time, he found a different world. This story is often credited with coining the term “butterfly effect,” which refers to the extremely high sensitivity of a complex, dynamic system to its initial conditions. In such a system, early, small factors go on to strongly influence the evolution of the entire system.

Side note: researchers in Los Alamos have demonstrated that, in the quantum realm, there is no “butterfly effect.” In the research, information—qubits, or quantum bits—“time travel” into the simulated past. One of them is then strongly damaged, like stepping on a butterfly, metaphorically speaking. Surprisingly, when all qubits return to the “present,” they appear largely unaltered, as if reality is self-healing which means there’s no butterfly effect in quantum mechanics. 

One of the most common mistakes I see in time travel stories is the failure to establish rules in the first place, or the lack of adherence to established rules. If you are setting your story on the One Timeline set by Fate (outcomes cannot change) because time is fixed from start to end, then stick to that premise. Another theory tells us it is the fourth dimension, in which we travel in one direction and it is always the Present, with neither the Past nor Future existing. Yet another theory is the multi-verse, where every single possible outcome from action or inaction creates a divergent time line. The latter two are not present in Times because history (stories) do change and Jung In stays in the same physical place.

The plot twist is interesting enough to continue watching the series, but with the time travel shift I don’t know a logical way to rebuild the bridge to Jin Woo.

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Sisyphus: The Myth (Episode 5-6) - Mood: C-
Since the show mentioned the lottery as a way for the Control Bureau to track illegal immigrants, Sun’s loyalty certainly will be a future point of conflict facing the protagonists. We do know however at this stage that Eddie is guaranteed not compromised (yet!), though whether he’s a potential ally remains to be seen. It was hilarious in a bad way watching the scene where Hyun Gi slowly walks up to Seo Hae and takes his own sweet time aiming his gun at her: didn’t the Control Bureau boss say to shoot her on sight? Also, we can tell its Kim Byung Chul: production did a poor job hiding it.

Beyond Evil (Episode 3-4) - Mood: B-
When I watched the encounter between Joo Won and Dong Sik outside the police station, I was wondering whether Joo Won could potentially be an unreliable narrator given that he appeared to have hallucinated the laughter but it appears that Dong Sik’s laughter has also been heard by other characters so maybe not? Yet we also had the car wash moment with Ji Hoon’s darker side: was it a sign of Joo Won’s insanity or a sign of Ji Hoon emulating Dong Sik’s personality? I’m liking the overall development but it was a disappointment seeing the Dinner of Corruption: yet another coverup? Yawn.

Hello? It's Me! (Episode 5-6) - Mood: C+
We already have one biatch in the male lead’s aunt within the company, so don’t you dare become another one, Ji Eun! The drama isn’t exactly very innovative in the way it chooses to develop the story: coffee spill, tripping over the beans, the underwater drowning, all these are scenes copy-pasted from the romcom 101 instruction manual. Yet, it does really well when it comes to delivering some heartfelt emotions, for instance when the male lead is able to empathise with the female lead during the piggyback moment. Cliffhanger points to a looming love triangle: let’s hope they don’t overdo it?

Sunbae, Don’t Put on That Lipstick (Episode 13-14) - Mood: D-
Forced separation + time skip trope? Didn’t we just see this in True Beauty? The breakup also happened during the 3 years so there’s going to be angst during the finale week as is expected from lame writing. As for the 2nd leads, it is irritating seeing key character moments (she overcoming her obsession and he becoming a CEO) brushed aside but I need to remind myself that this writer never pretended to give proper arcs to them. I guess I should be thankful the chef wasn’t vilified as a homewrecker or that the doctor divorced amicably but I’ve certainly seen better gay representation.

Also watching:
L.U.C.A.: The Beginning (Episode 9-10) - Mood: D-, Lee Son survived past all his minions? That’s so not funny!
Vincenzo (Episode 1-4) - Mood: C (1-4), Kwak Dong Yeon is playing the 2nd fiddle to an idol? HAHAHA

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Oh, I feel bad for KDY, I hope his character has some purpose or otherwise it will be such a waste of talent. I love Taec to bits, but when acting there’s no comparison possible.

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I just hope that he doesn't end up like Lim Ju-hwan.

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Please, IJH situation it too painful.
Both him and KDY are so talented... I sometimes can't understand dramaland.

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Why you gotta hurt me like this,?? I haven't given up he will get his day... HE WILL..

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He is still young so there is hope.

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You’re right, Hello! Is really intro to kdrama tropes, very basic. But I’m enjoying it because of the acting/directing. The two actresses for the FL are really good together, even though I find them both really irritating... and the ML is finally getting into the story.

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I find them irritating as well! 🙈 I wanted to drop the show a couple of times... yet I'm still watching... it makes me laugh... and I love Haraboji. Also, that piggybacking was touching....

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I love Haraboji too! He has such good chemistry with both older Hani and his son. The father-son relationship seems to get cuter each week.

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Hello Me has been a surprise. I agree it is very basic and sometimes, it reminds me of something that would have come out over 10 years ago. Like they dusted off something that had been sitting in the back corner of the shelf.

I think there is some synergy between the writing, directing, and acting that gets the drama to tug at my heart and get me invested and smile and cry.

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Vincenzo: The episodes continue to be too long. That said, after a so-so premiere week, I thought things really started coming together to create an enjoyable pair of episodes. I knew Hong Yoo-chan was going to die, but I thought the truck of doom moment was still well done. The directing is well done overall. Jeon Yeo-bin toned down her acting and now when she acts OTT you know her character is putting on an act. I said this last week, but I think the reason I’m enjoying this drama as opposed to Chief Kim or Fiery Priest is because the title character is playing the straight man as opposed to an OTT one. That makes the wackiness grates less for me.

Beyond Evil: Shin Ha-kyun is so good in his role. He perfectly encapsulates a man walking the thin line between sane and insane.

Mouse: Again with the long episodes. Stop! The first episode may have been the most brutal k-dramas I’ve seen. All of the time skips were confusing and there were cringey parts, but I was engrossed. Our leads appeared in Episode 2 and a new serial killer too. This drama is going to be dark, so let’s go all the way and make the too nice Lee Seung-gi cop the serial killer.

Sisyphus: The Myth: So there were some reveals this week but nothing really surprising. The most burning question for me is if the FL was around eight or nine when the nukes struck, how did she not know how to eat a banana???

Times: I found the premiere week flat and it just got worse this week, as twist after twist fell flat because I barely knew who the characters were or what their relationships were with other characters.

Love (Marriage & Divorce): Another week spent in the past. I can see that the oldest and youngest husbands were attracted to women with qualities they felt their wives lacked, but I still don’t get what the Doc sees in the model. It seems the writer is planning a second season, which is why the pace is glacially slow, I guess

LUCA: The Beginning: And this is why you should use birth control, folks. I didn’t expect L.U.C.A. to be the first drama to mention the pandemic.

I’m ready for some lighter fare.

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“ I still don’t get what the Doc sees in the model “

The thing we don’t know is if this is his first time philandering or whether he is a player if long standing. My reaction watching the two of them was that the Doc was a skilled player, but the model was way more capable player.

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Why I like daily drama A Good Supper:
1) Information isn’t withheld. Characters confront each other & there are some hard truths told. People make sense too.
2) The townspeople are so kind, generous and compassionate.
3) Characters are not stupid. They are not fooled by lies/shenanigans.
4) Heroine is not a Candy. She’s a force to be reckoned with.
5) Loved the flashbacks of the kids. Adds depth of understanding of background.

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Yes! I like that they are not easily fooled!

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MOUSE: Dropped after first episode. I was traumatised by all the gruesome killings. Don’t think I can watch any more (shudders)...

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Love ft marriage and divorce (11-12) : Mostly fillers. I wonder why the main focus is on the doctor and his mistress. The step mother is more gross than I thought.

TRWMR (5-6): So the princess went back to the palace. Apart from the scenes of palace , this wmweek's episodes felt dragging and I FF a lot. And the chemistry between leads fell flat. I mean I am not able to feel it. I am more intrigued about the second leads. Even with less screen space together they have an electrifying chemistry.I wonder if the replacement will do any good. Not much of a fan of NIW ( he seriously pissed me off in the last two dramas I watched- MPUB and Mr Queen) but still it will be interesting to see how it will trun out.

Douluo continent(30/40): I am feeling frustrated with Tang San and his hero complex. I get you are the hero and you think you are special enough to save everyone but its good to take a reality check at times. The whole poison detoxification pissed me off. He started something which he was not aware of and then Xiao Wu saved him only for him to suggest trying the same thing on the elder. Not to mention how hell bend clear he is about his father's involvement in spirit mutations even after people denying it. How more stupid can you be.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I find DMB and ZZJ's pair much better than the lead leads. I might give the anime a try once I finish the series.

Sisyphus (5-6): I felt the episodes got a bit better and interesting. So I guess the main villain might come to light now. Will he be the Sigma character that everybody says? Waiting for the next week's episodes.

Times (1-4): Its the low version of kairos. It's not gripping as kairos and more on the lighter side. It's the kind of show I would watch while working out or while engaged with other works. I guess I will finish since its only 12 episodes.

Beyond evil (3-4) : Detective Han seriously pissed me off with his prejudice. And I seriously did a victory dance when he was proved wrong atleast for the time being. It's not highly gripping but I am curious about the killer and for the time being the curiosity keeps me on board with this.

Penthouse 2 ( 4-5): So it was indeed Ro Na. For a show like penthouse that was a bit too obvious. But then RN did not have a trophy struck into her skull as shown in the season premiere. I wonder if someone else did that later? The highlight of this week's episode was CSJ and EB. CSJ's family seriously sucks. And I like how the show is exploring that vulnerable side of hers, is it an indication that she might go on a redemption arc later? But she went wrong when she provided the same bad parenting to EB. Except EB doesn't possess the mental strength to literally go with the pressure. And finally how the history of throat slicing is repeating itself.

YC disappointed me. I always find it strange when he was introduced as a "good side" representative and the new episode proved how wrong that is. Somehow I feel seeing him and YH...

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Somehow I feel seeing him and YH together and the fear of losing him to BN has been the biggest trigger for EB to attack BN. I mean he knew how bad a parent CSJ is and still didnot fight for EB. And how come he didn't notice how much his daughter need a therapy? In a way both CSJ and YC are responsible for the way EB turned out. We might get a character redemption for SK too since now she is gonna be framed for attempted murder. Also KSY is such a wonderful actress. Her scenes with her mother in the office and her confrontation with SK literally gave me chills. Such a wonderful portrayal of raw emotions. And the final scene when she announced the winner. The way she portrayed her dilemma of decision was wonderful too. I wonder what made her make a fair decision that too for her competitor's daughter.
We might get a new charcter in the next episode. Will it be Lee Ji ah? Cant wait for the next episode

Not yet 30 (2-3): The ML is creepy and the FL is childish.🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ One thing interesting is the way they cover all three stories in a period of 20 min. I will continue watching it since it's only 20 min and there are only 15 episodes.

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I feel that Seok Kyung (the actress) has really improved in S2, she was rather meh in S1. When she did the Eun Byeol impersonation in front of CSJ, I almost want to give her a standing ovation. I guess she has learnt from the best, Kim So Yeon.
I can't wait for next episode too, it's time we start seeing Logan again, and hopefully Lee Ji Ah.

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@silpa I was also wondering about that opening scene that had shown something stuck in the person's skull because it didn't seem to match what we just recently saw! I haven't seen the second episode for this week, so I don't know if we get a flashback of some sort which will explains things.

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LUCA: Yeah, I didn't watch the past 2 episodes and fast forwarded through chunks of the previous weeks. It's on hold. I would have dropped but it is only 12 so might check out the end just to see how they wrap it up.

The Rebel Princess (C-drama): I am at 55 of 68 episodes. It is a solid show, good pacing, fantastic character development but they Mary Sued the female lead and took out any sizzle between the leads who are so great together. I mean I would just like 0. 0000157 Shades of Gray. I hate having a couple actually have chemistry to see it just wither away. The same thing happened in the C-drama version of Moon Lovers. Don't waste the sizzle! I am not talking anything that would have trouble the C-censors.

The Sword and the Brocade (C-drama): Zipping right along. Nothing new with the subject matter but Wallace Chung is doing great as the Tsundere duke. Because they have a comedic element in the main relationship without it being corny, it has brightened up the whole show. It is actually showing the downside for the guy to have all those woman, none of whom he chose, in the household and how even a powerful guy can't make some of the most basic decisions in his household without taking on his mom.

I'm considering both Sisyphus and Vincenzo but also have a few dramas I need to get out of my hold pattern of having 3 episodes left so we'll see.

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I tried to binge LUCA and beware, the nonsensical-English theme song is a brain worm. For the next few days I was hearing it constantly (and once again wondering why they don’t run the English lyrics past a native speaker).

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Someone has said it! The song is horrible and the lyrics made no sense!!! I think this is the main reason I dropped. I was getting almost a Stand by your man feelings (aka sickening feelings).

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Awu...I wanted to love her but I just couldn't. Nothing against saint like characters but she was boring to watch. I like her better in the novel.
Xiao Qi on the other hand kept me from dropping it. Seeking justice for his men and refusing to make her kneel to the emperor was a total rebel. That should have been Awu.

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I hear people who read the book are aggrieved at some of the changes in the drama specifically regarding Awu's portrayal. And that's not about the actress but the writing. It's still a solid drama, but I can see how it could be better. And, yeah, XQ is awesome though sometimes also verging into too perfect territory.

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Definitely a solid show. The battle scenes were epic. Awu was admirable but most of her actions were not relatable to a mere mortal. Perhaps too passive for my liking.
I agree about XQ. I've never been glad to call someone a hypocrite when he covered for Song. Finally, he is human.

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I've been watching Sword and Brocade too. I really feel for the women having to always scheme and politic in order to protect themselves and having to bear the burden of protecting the futures of both their birth and married-into families, but if you make your way into being the elderly matriarch of a family, you're like more powerful than the titled male head of the family, so it's worth the hustle!

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Yep, exactly. Generally most dramas deal with the woes of the women...and there are a lot as they are often in a vipers nest but still being pressured from their own family as well as you said. I thought it was nice to actually see a bit of the perspective from the Duke.

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It's been all about Word of Honor/Faraway Wanderers for me. If Erha/Immortality and Sha Po Lang will turn out this good (e.g. source material, relationships respected), I'll be more than happy. I was not sure about Gong Jun as Kexing but he is selling it so much so that he is easily my favourite character in the drama version whereas while reading the novel, I couldn't choose between him and Zishu. Waiting for drama!Zishu to become playful. I could see that side of him in the last few episodes, fingers crossed he comes through. Zhang Zhe Han is a serious distraction. Him and Gong Jun are visual menaces, it is really hard to concentrate on what they are saying. Ridiculous.

Beyond Evil: I love it! Everyone is suspicious, I don't trust a single person in that town. Yeo Jingu and Shin Hakyun's chemistry is great, I want to see more of them working together or play mind games.

Hello! It's me: I am not crazy invested but I come back every week because it is fun, I guess? I don't feel the chemistry between the male and female lead, which is unfortunate but I am still hoping it magically appears.

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I have lost about 50% of my braincells watching WoH. I'm planning to sacrifice the remaining as the future episodes air! <3

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I cannot put into words the heart break I went through when I found out episode 9 was Monday not Saturday... I really can't and it's taking my all nor to go watch it raw, I want to support and watch o YouTube...

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I started watching Word of Honor after seeing a lot of buzz around it. Both the leads have amazing chemistry and from the four episodes I have watched it they are going all in. I have watched both The Untamed and <Guardians and while both had implied BL, Word of Honor does not shy away from its BL origin, to say the least. The way Wen KeXing is obsessed with Zhou ZiShu, there is NO heterosexual explanation for that. Well, lets just hope that they are able to continue their run without getting into trouble with censor board.

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Mouse: 5.0 - Yikes! 😨 Some of us watch kdramas to relax and enjoy, not because we want to hide behind the sofa.

River Where the Moon Rises: -44.44444 *InappropriateWord**(^$%()*)_*&^%&$*InappropriateWord*😠🤢😱😬🤮👿💣🔫

Beyond Evil: 5.5 - Day 4: A laugh & demonic grin aren't enough to carry a show. Day 5: 💤

Times: 9.0
A: On December 2, 2020 at 3:56 PM I will make a post with words in the wrong order. Only you can save me from making a fool of myself.
B: Weightlifting Fairy fans - did you know the FL here was a sidekick there?
C: The "operation" was a success and the patient only died 3 (?) times.

L.U.C.A: The Beginning: 7.5 - Darn! I was hoping for a redemption arc for the evil minion couple.

Sisyphus: The Myth: 8.0

Hello Me: 6.5 - The Lee Re Show portion is good, except overdone a bit. The river rescue in day 6 was ok until the water that had been barely up to anyone's waist decided to pull a kdrama and become an infinitely deep drowning hazard so the rescuer needed rescuing. WTF!? Garbage like that takes me completely out of the show. They had a decent scene untill then, so it was completely unnecessary.

Vincenzo: -4.04 - Why do the Italian extras seem to be better actors than most American extras in kdramas? But is the show about a crooked drug company and a toxic medicine that is getting approved because of rigged tests?? Now??? When we basically need drug companies and newly tested/approved vaccines to pretty much save the world? Just, NO. Since it's an addictive opioid pain medication the charitable explanation is that the script was planned before the plague broke out and was inspired by our opioid crisis here, but couldn't they have rewritten it a bit? Made it about evil A.I. or LUCA-ish genetic manipulation? I'll probably keep watching and go back to normal scoring next week, but now I just have to vent about what a terrible message they are sending. Grrrr.

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No snarky summary for Sisyphus?

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The rest of the internet has that covered.

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Since last week I managed to wrap up Mr Queen and Run On. No regrets here. Both are extremely enjoyable dramas, I don't think they'll stay with me for long, though.

Watched until el 5 of River. It's super pretty, but the plot felt a little bit painted by numbers. Still, the production is so luxurious that until now I've been all good. Amazing gownery, and I love Go Geun's armour, it's just like the ones in Empress Ki. Now that Na Inwoo is on board, I'll surely power through episodes 5 and 6 just to keep watching. Loved NIW's intense brooding in previous dramas, I'm hoping we'll get to see him being a bit silly and swoony here- but I'm cringing in preemption of how they'll manage to excize You-Know-Who out of all the pre-produced episodes.
Finally, I'm very slowly watching Sunbae and The Good Detective 💚💚💚 Two nice shows, each in its how genre- I just don't really have enough time to go at a faster pace

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Oh, and I blazzed through webcomic Let's Play. It's so good!!! I can't recommend it enough, it got me laughing out loud several times during my commute (and also frantically scrolling down some fanservice-y panels 😂). It's got all the feels and all the meta, it's a really brilliant comic

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My personal addition!! Waiting patiently for for season 3😜

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You are watching TGD!! Yes!! I love this drama so much that I am happy just by people enjoying it!

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Love featuring marriage and divorce: It was mildly interesting when they were dealing with aftermath of an affair with 50’s family but then doctor and mistress happened. Now I have totally lost interest. The family is quite weird. The doctor is weird, his first love – his step mother is weird, his mistress is weird. I am still watching it to see how much weirder it can get.
Sisyphus the myth: I am yet to watch episode 6, with this rate I think I will drop it soon.
She would never know: Mandatory break up and time jump at episode 14 happened. I will tune in for last two episodes to see if second noona got her happy ending.
Hello Me: Surprisingly, I am still watching this drama. It is light hearted but I do have issues with younger Ha-ni. She is obnoxious brat and bit of a bully.
River where moon rises: I was not particularly invested in the show and then the controversy happened. It looks like giant mess waiting to happen and I have no interest to witness it first-hand.
Vincenzo: I think I have dropped it. I have not tuned in for 3rd episode.

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Sisyphus: The Myth - This was in danger of being dropped but the kid from the restaurant showed up. He must've won the lottery to have that car. Also, I'm curious about the cop's story. I'm going to stay tuned.

River Where the Moon Rises - I will be putting this on hold. Not because of the scandal but too many flashbacks. I need all my attention to focus on Sisyphus. I'll wait until all the episodes have aired. I'll just pretend Ji Soo wasn't in it in the first place.

It's OK not to be OK. Seo Yea-ji. Her portrayal is wow, wow, wow. All I want to see is her. I don't get why Gang- tae isn't into that very nice nurse.

I'm done with Mr. Queen and am looking for another show to start.

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Penthouse 2: I hate Joo Seok-kyung but love her at the same time. After Shim Soo-ryeon, she is the best match against Cheon Seo-jin. Her mom would have been proud. Seok-kyung's Ha Eun-byul impression was dead on. In the first episode, I thought the girl who rolled down the stairs was Eun-byul, but it was Bae Ro-na. I can't say I'm sad if she's dead because I hated Ro-na since Season 1, and I never cared for her romance with Joo Seok-hoon. Eun-byul has gone off the deep end and is addicted to drugs.

I can't believe they redeemed Yoo Jennie, who was my most hated kid in Season 1, because she bullied and beat Ro-na at school, but Kang Ma-ri's revenge is delicious. Ma-ri gets sh!t done unlike useless Oh Yoon-hee. It was so satisfying when she slapped Seok-kyung. 

I miss Lee Ji-ah the most and Logan Lee. I've come to accept Shim Soo-ryeon's death, so hurry up, Yoon-hee, and find Seok-kyung's (the twins'?) birth mom, so I can see Lee Ji-ah again. Logan is the best orchestrating his revenge with Teacher Jin as his mole.

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I was super shocked that the writer's killed off RoNa. I didn't feel it was necessary for them to tell their story. EunByeol is now a murderer but really she's just a kid whose misaligned and under constant pressure and just snapped. She needs therapy and care from medical professionals not her overbearing mother. CSJ is the main reason EB is so messed up. If CSJ actually cared about her daughter and tried to get her help instead of always pushing her over her limit. I have no idea which direction this show is going. How many people are they going to kill off without even resolving the previous murders. SeolAh/SuRyeon/RoNa: there's no justice served in any of their cases. Now YoonHee is going to try to get revenge for SuRyen and her daughter's deaths. I was disappointed that HaYoonChul covered up for EB...even though he's her father I badly wanted him to do the right thing and force EB to confess.

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There can be a possibility of Ro Na being alive since all the scenes since hospitalization were rushed. And we didnot see who actually pull out the plug. They showed us only a hand. There are also chances of Logan switching the bodies.It's a far stretched theory but anything can happen in dramaland.

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@panshel Joo Seo-kyung's impression of Ha Eun-byul was something else, right? She definitely showed she takes after her dad. She's willing to directly go up against anyone.

Definitely agree regarding Ma-ri! Not only does she doesn't think twice about getting things done, she's also willing to let all pretension and refinement go by the wayside when she goes after people.

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HIKARU NO GO Chinese - (watched:complete/ratings:9/10) Sadly, I have to say goodbye to this rare drama where every character was lovable in his/her own way. The script was on point from the beginning to the end (I cried so much during the last episodes). It is rare to find a drama with no big villain, no corruption, no noble idiocy…All I can say is, what a wonderful gem of a show! Farewell dear show, I shall remember you forever.

-ongoing-

RIVER WHERE THE MOON RISES - (watched:ep6/ratings:5/10) My interest for this drama declined, but I'm curious to see if the new ML will bring a new punch to the show. I felt the pace excessively slow and the narrative kind of cliché. I also didn’t feel the grand momentum when Ga-jin returned to the palace (I expected something more glorious and epic…). The King confuses me, does he really like his daughter or not???

SHE WOULD NEVER KNOW - (watched:14/ratings:4/10) What a boring and frustrating week. I kept using the fast-forward button. Sister’s situation is somewhat confusing and frustrating (husband keeps saying he is not like his friend but wants to divorce/sister keeps getting hurt but doesn’t accept divorce…at least, her speaking about his heart was touching). Hyun-seung is clearly the one in love. I don’t feel any romantic feelings from Song-ah (her portrayal is kinda bland and unemotional to be honest).

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So where were you able to watch HIKARU NO GO (Chinese version)? I wanted to check it out (being one of the very rare Westerners who was actually taught to play GO as a kid).

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I watched on QIY. I only managed 3 eps, but I liked what I saw and am planning to come back one day...

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Not everyone likes this type of slice of life. I also don't watch many dramas on such topic, but this was one of the best out there.

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Thank you- I have iQIYI and found it.

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36 episodes are subbed and up on [email protected]@l

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I saw it on KissA, since its one of the few drama websites where it has chinese dramas.

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River Where the Moon Rises The moon is more drowning than rising...

Sunbae, Don’t Put on That Lipstick This drama uses the usual tropes but in a better way than usually like the ex come back. So I want to trust the production with this cliffhanger! At least, we got nice kiss scenes :D

Sisyphus I'm watching for CSW, he's really fun in this role.

Mouse The episodes were long, so looong and so many characters who clearly need therapy...

Beyond Evil The main characters spend more time to affront each other than investigate... it's almost a parody at this point..

Vincenzo I liked the new trio fighting against the villains!

Will You Leave It's cute and funny.

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The Smile Has Left Your Eyes
I finished it this week. The drama had a promising start. I really enjoyed the first half. However, the writing took a nose dive at episode 12. I don't want to spoil but it became evident that the writer choose shock value over logic and consistent characterization.
Seo Inguk was phenomenal though! One of his best performance.

Sisyphus: The Myth
I guess I am more invested in the show than I thought. I literally gasp when a certain character showed up again hahaha Like Quirkycase said, this show had so much potential but suffers from mediocre execution. It still succeeds to entertain though mostly due to the actors, the leads onscreen chemistry (not in a romantic sense) and its unpredictable ridiculousness.

Mouse
I knew nothing about it except that it had Lee Seunggi (and that is all it takes to convince me to watch a drama hahaha). It is surprisingly dark. Now I am extremely curious if they will have the gut to make Lee Seunggi the very twisted villain.

Vincenzo
The show took an unexpected but logical turn last weekend. It added a layer of emotional depth and strengthen its characters' motivations. I am most curious about Taek's character now. Looking forward to this weekend's episodes!

On a side note, I am so glad I listened to my gut feeling and did not watch River Where the Moon Rises live. What a disgusting mess!

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I've got a case of Seo In Guk withdrawal. I'm beginning to think it may have been a mistake to leave jellyfish entertainment. He was in Pipeline, a film but I don't think it is available anywhere, and I hear he accepted an offer for a new drama, but nothing more. I miss Seo In Guk!!

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Only 57 more days to go until his new drama with Park Boyoung! Can't wait!

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Oof on the the writing for The Smile Has Left Your Eyes! Finally braced myself to pick up where I left off after I had spoiled myself on the ending a while back (just a vague knowledge of what happens at the end without an understanding of what leads up to it).

Unfortunate to hear that the writing actually goes off the rails starting episode 12 (I thought it was more along the lines of the show reaching a logical tragic conclusion, and I stayed away for a bit b/c I tend to not be a fan of tragic endings in general)...so thanks for the heads up!

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Hi Guys. I've been reading the recaps and the comments here for years...like at least 8. I'm finally writing, lol.
Just want to say, what's happening with the kdrama writing lately. I hope it doesn't go the path of Hollywood where it's more about the effects, actors and not so much story. I love how Korean dramas know to take their time to describe people and set up situation, so we all enjoy being part of what's happening.
Can't wait for a good show...noting to watch just now . I'm looking through the old list, if I missed something good :)) . Is there a Chinese drama I should watch? I have not tried them yet.

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@DaniC with your second paragraph, I also have been hoping that kdramas don't start down the Hollywood path. I partly blame Netflix for pushing kdramas toward zombies and horror. It almost feels like kdramas are embracing the horror and zombies over quality, at least at Netflix. My idea of quality entertainment isn't watching tennis ball sized green eyes pop out of misshapen and grotesque heads to burst into blood bubbles on the floor. I hope it (the zombie/horror trend) is just a short lived fad and soon fades away.

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I don't know if I agree with this. I think both Kingdom and Sweet Home were pretty high quality and Sweet Home was adapted from a popular webtoon. Netflix's 2021 lineup appears to cover all genres. Horror has been a popular genre in Korean movies, and I think Train to Busan did more to spur the zombie fad than Netflix. JMO.

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You could certainly be right. I never watched Train to Busan. It just seems to me that after Kingdom, there seemed to be a rush of zombie kdramas, more in a short period of time than I could remember from the entire previous decade of kdrama viewing. And I am really disappointed that the new kdrama with Jang Dong Yoon is also a zombie movie. That may be coloring my perspective on it.

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Train to Busan is definitely the culprit. It was a massive blockbuster (and also one of my fav kmovies lol).

Kdramas have always been trend followers. Geniuses and psychopaths are popular trends now and I am not surprised zombies have been added to the mix after the success of both TtB and Kingdom.

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DaniC, some Cdrama recommendations that you can find on Viki:

A Love So Beautiful
The Romance of Tiger and Rose
Go Ahead
Goodbye My Princess
Love and Redemption

There are so many more that are worth watching, but these are some of my particular favorites :)

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Thank you. I will check them out. :*

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There are many very good C-dramas out there (and plenty of duds as well). If you have not seen a C-drama you certainly do not have iQIYI as a streaming service and Netflix is somewhat limited so I am confining my recommendations to shows found on Viki.

For light and fluffy romcom it would be difficult to beat the recently concluded MY LITTLE HAPPINESS.

For a good re-make of another show, which removed the rough edges of the original, try SYMPHONY'S ROMANCE.

Every country excels at something, and with the Mainland Chinese that is the Period Costume Drama (and Fantasy dramas- also gorgeously costumed and with fabulous cinematography). Some of these are the very best dramas you may ever see:

Currently airing-

REBEL PRINCESS (actually set in the same time period as the K-drama RIVER WHERE THE MOON RISES)

A GIRL LIKE ME.

From previous years-

LEGEND OF FUYOU
ASHES OF LOVE
THE WOLF
MAIDEN HOLMES
LOVE AND DESTINY
STORY OF MINGLAN
PRINCESS WEIYOUNG
NIRVANA IN FIRE
NIRVANA IN FIRE 2
THE LONGEST DAY IN CHANG'AN

This is really just scratching the surface.

And please do not worry about the direction of K-drama. Remember that we have seen many wonderful shows in the last 12 months, such as the eminently re-watchable I'LL COME TO YOU WHEN THE WEATHER IS NICE. We also had STOVE LEAGUE: MYSTIC POP UP BAR; WIND AND CLOUD AND RAIN; MY UNFAMILIAR FAMILY; INTO THE RING; DO YOU LOVE BRAHMS; UNITED EFFORT TO ACCOMPLISH ONE THING; SCHOOL NURSE FILES; TALE OF THE NINE TAILED: THE SPIES WHO LOVED ME and START UP. Please note that these shows represented a range of genre's - and as far as story telling Hollywood would do well to learn from all of these shows.

There is little danger of K-drama following Hollywood- They have a well deserved reputation to uphold and they will- last year is the proof.

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Vincenzo - Just WOW! So many emotions. Love how this drama is filmed and directed. When the drama started, the characters and some beats did start off sort of rehash-y from Fiery Priest, but this is a more solemn story and the directing definitely gives it its own identity.

Hello Me - Gosh this show is going to make me cry every week. Feel so much for older Hani. Young Hani is annoying, but like older Hani, even I don't want to slap her with her upcoming tragedy. I'm really warming up to Kim Young Kwang's character, whose name I can't remember. I don't care if we never find out anything deeper about him. I just like him popping up every now and then to give Hani a smile or a piggyback ride. It's so nice to see someone actually so happy to bump into older Hani. Love the morning exercise routine for JoA confectionary.

Sword and Brocade- Started this for Tan Song Yun. Reminds me of Story of Ming Lan in that it features a smart heroine navigating through the politics and dangers of an upper class household while the men are clueless to the complexity of women's lives. I feel bad for Shi Yi Niang since she doesn't have the protective grandma that Ming Lan had. The drama can feel suffocating sometimes since they're stricter about propriety.

Going to check out Mouse this weekend, but TVN should knock it off with the long running times.

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I'm trying to watch the web series 'How to be Thirty' but I'm a bit confused by the air dates, I can't get used to the un-Kdrama release schedule. One nice thing about web dramas, they don't have Netflix throwing money at them so they stick to the basics - human interactions between pretty people.
On the topic of '30 years old' I'm also watching the classic 2005 series 'My Lovely Sam Soon'. Its funny in 2005 30 was though of as already over-the-hill, in 2021 30 its depicted as almost thee ideal age.

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Even funnier is that when you calculate age the korean way, 30 was really 29 in birth years. I also watched My Lovely Samsoon back when I was in college. I think 29 (or 30 by korean calculation) was one of my happiest ages. I remember thinking how I was supposed to be feel over the hill and down on my luck, but I had such a great time.

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I think How to be Thirty is airing twice by week : Tuesday and Saturday.

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Sam Soon was completely groundbreaking at its time, there were many academic articles written and seminars held about it. And I think it was the first drama to make fun of kdrama tropes (while setting many new ones). And gosh, the music was so great! My favorite drama ever ❤️❤️❤️

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In the slump of all slumps, I'm back to Graceful Family, which I last watched last summer. A 4.5-star, solidly entertaining, well-crafted drama, with Bae Jong-ok's cold, commanding TOP lady as the icing on the cake. Highly recommend it to all who haven't seen it.

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GRACEFUL FAMILY is first rate- so good we invented the word 'Crackjang' to describe it.

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R.I.P. the fish.

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River Where the Moon Rises: I was really enjoying this and now a change in ML? No, that always ruins it for me.

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This seems to be a bit of a dry patch for me. I and my wife have loved SHE WILL NEVER KNOW (aka SUNBAE, DON’T PUT ON THAT LIPSTICK) but this week the writer threw a wrench into the works and I simply do not know how to take it. On the one hand our main couple was always out of balance with Hyun-seung always putting far more into the relationship than Song-ah: He was fully invested, she was not, although given that her previous relationship had just recently ended and ended catastrophically that is fully understandable. So a break up once it was a long distance relationship was logical. But it was still stupid: The Hyun-seung’s of this world exist but they are rare. Rare but even so not flawless saints- break his heart and the odds of getting him back are close to zero and if that is what the writer has in mind I do not know how it would be believable. I think that this plot twist was a major misstep for our show.

My wife continues to watch the Chinese Costume dramas THE WORLD OF FANTASY and REBEL PRINCESS and she continues to keep watching even after the subtitles run out (and then re-watches those episodes after the subtitles appear). She is also back to watching A GIRL LIKE ME and THE BLESSED GIRL.

Now that my wife has watched all 60 episodes of JEWEL IN THE CROWN I have ordered the classic JEWEL IN THE PALACE from our library. She has loved RIVER WHERE THE MOON RISES and I am concerned that the recent scandal (which is actually too tame a term for it) and the resulting actor change may destroy the show for her. I am hoping that the classic story of Jang Ge-um can take the place of RIVER WHERE THE MOON RISES which has been really well done so far (the costumes are great).

My son has discovered the wonderful J-drama MIDNIGHT DINER. It inspired him to serve us a dish which involves pouring tea into rice. It was not bad at all. And there is good news on the J-drama front: Viki will be streaming IN-HOUSE MARRIAGE HONEY and also O MAIDENS IN YOUR SAVAGE SEASON.

I am anxiously waiting for the upcoming K-drama shows OH MASTER (which title oddly actually refers to the female lead rather than the male one), LAW SCHOOL and NAVILLERA. In the meantime I am tiding myself over with the C-drama PROFESSIONAL SINGLE.

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K-drama adapted Midnight Diner and it is also very good.

I watched A Jewel In The Palace in 16 episode increments. It was my first drama over 24 episodes. I probably wouldn't have to take little breaks now.

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Sincerely love both seasons of Midnight Diner. Even the theme song and opening street scenes make me hungry. Where can I find the K-drama version?

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Viki might have it, although not in my region.

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Hubby and I have enjoyed watching Midnight Diner as well. I hope there will be new season soon!

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I checked with my son: There are a total of 3 seasons PLUS a sequel series called MIDNIGHT DINER: TOKYO STORIES, which has two seasons.

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The Midnight Diner series is wonderful. A mixture of food and good stories.

I looked up O Maidens In Your Savage Season, 😳

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All about murders
K-drama:
Beyond Evil
I don't think I'll be capable doing a detective job. You have to pay to minutiae details and don't fall into prejudice deductions or bare assumptions. Also, how could FBI's profilers faced the confessions of those serial killers whose said they killed just because they could, and carried on with their lives unscathed?

Mouse
Although a bit difficult to follow, mostly because lost in translation and the scenes were a bit scattered, I like the theory they present: a psychopath: born or made? The young Jae Hoon (Kim Kang Hoon) played convincingly scary & I like Ahn Jae Wook here. As for others actors, I leave until further episodes, hrhrhr...

J-drama
Tengoku to Jigoku: Psychona Futari
Although I grit my teeth over Yamaki Hideo (how could he not aware that gloves have a right and a left pairing!), at least he is loyal, keke...

I have to drop Cold Case. Some of the episodes made me sad. That made me question my sanity, since when killing made people happy?

Others: Traces & Clarice
And can't wait till 'Line of Duty' season 6.

To dampen the effects of all those murders, I try to watch C-drama: 'The Wolf', although it good, but it irritates me. How could the heroine still strongly loved a person who killed her father? People could theorize that he was adoptive father of the heroine + the wolf boy was under influence + first love never died, etc... I didn't buy it.

I think I will leave it, and try to find something that really entertain and/or my cup of tea. It is hard to find one good romance / comedy series/drama like 'Mr. Queen', 'Run On' and '18 Again', sigh...

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Mouse - I knew in advance that it was going to be creepy and I’d be watching through my fingers and yep...episode 1 lived up to expectations. Things I learned - it only became legal to get an abortion in Korea super recently (like this year recently). Episode 2 was less hide behind the couch and more set up of characters in the present day. I’m curious to see if they go all the way and make Lee Seung Gi’s character murdery.

Am not watching a lot else - tried out How to be 30 but have stalled halfway through episode 2, which isn’t promising, and am slowly staggering my way through Sisyphus but it may not last.

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Beyond Evil: so many question about this drama. why is Han Joowon so obsessed with 20 yo case? why is Lee Dongshik act like he is the murderer? why is Park Jungjae act exactly like 20 years ago? why is the family of the victims trust Lee Dongshik? who the hell is the real culprit? i feel like Dongshik know something about the culprit but he keeps it by himself? why??

rewatching My Girlfriend is A Gumiho: i miss Lee Seunggi in romcom. pls comeback with romcom :(( i dont think i can watch Mouse. Beyond Evil alone already give me headache.

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My Girlfriend is A Gumiho is my favourite 😍 I might have to rewatch after I’ve finished Mouse to recover 😂

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Recently watched My Girlfriend is A Gumiho and I loved it! It was a sweet show and I thought that Shin MinAh as gumiho did a fantastic job. I didn't really like Lee Seung-Gi performance but I guess it was okay. Neways very fun watch!

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Shin Minah as Gumiho is so pretty. her character and visual never feel outdated even watching it now

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My Girlfriend is a Gumiho was my gateway drama. I watched it 6 years ago and I remember it fondly although it isn't my favourite kdrama nor my favourite with Lee Seunggi. That would be King2Hearts. That was the drama that made me follow Lee Seunggi's career with such loyalty.

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King2Hearts is also high on my list.

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I miss that crazy DB era.
The recaps and comments on this show was quite the experience.

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I actually only watched it for the first time last year because I’d been saving it 😄 I missed all the fun

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If you have watch the fifth episode, the answer was there. But, it was shown all along. Joo Won was graduate with cum laude an worked for Foreign Affair division in Seoul Met. He sent one of the illegal immigrant as a bait for finding the killer, although his superior forbade him.

The skeleton that Ji Hoon/Dong Sik/Joo Won found was the woman that he sent, Lee Geum Hwa. Joo Won recognized her by the ring on the skeleton.

If people found out that Joo Won sent Geum Hwa to her death, and his father, Ki Hwan, tried to cover up his son's mistake, their careers, especially Ki Hwan, will be ruined.

That was the reason why Joo Won so obsessed to prove and find the killer. Up until ep. 4, his main suspect was Dong Sik. It changes now.

The family, as of Jin Mook, the father of Min Jung was kind like being adopted by Dong Sik's parents. The store that he owns, was bought by Dong Sik's parents. Therefore, he felt indebt to Dong Sik.

Maybe we won't know the real killer till the last 2 episodes. I enjoy the ride, especially since I have to also put the puzzle together by all the details. I like to see the emotions/body languages in both Shin Ha Kyun & Yeo Jin Goo, they play very well. Almost everyone involved know /hides something.

This week Jung Je & Jin Mook became the suspects and showed their 'other' faces. But, it also might just a red herring.

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On Hold for now, Blessed Girl, Sword and Brocade and Rebel Princess. I can not deal with these female lead right now. I am watching Meeting You and Perfect and Casual Chinese dramas. I loving it so far.🖤🖤🖤🖤

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@missvictrix "Honestly, I’m crushing hard on Jo Seung-woo/Tae-sul, from his quips to his mental calculations to him holding his strained back (mood!) and wrapped up in a houndstooth blanket. He’s so fun, and definitely keeping me watching." Right on!!! If a lesser actor was cast, I'm not so sure I would enjoy the show as much. Also, he needs to wear his glasses more b/c: Hello!?

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^ THAT. YES. @soulsearch12

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Come on, Sisyphus PD/Team, give us want we really really want!! Jo Seung-woo/Tae-sul in round glasses galore!!!

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OMG you guys I need to share.. I just heard they are officially remaking Princess Hours ( GOONG) ...I am so excited.. Princess Hours was like my first K drama and I fell in love with the fabulous wardrobe of Princess Chae Kyung.. Sorry had to share.. I am super excited.. I wonder who they will cast?

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Vincenzo This is my favorite among the currently airing shows that I am watching. Despite it already following similar story formats, I still like it. There is still a difference here and there that makes it entertaining. SJK, KDY and Taec ❤. Last episodes allowed our arsonist mafioso release his pent up anger against Babel and it was a sight to behold. I have already watched episode 5 so will leave my other thoughts about the current episode in the wall or recap thread for the meantime.

Unexpected Business Jo In Sung in a variety. I am in. He is here with Cha Tae Hyun, who always appear bewildered. Plus both are way over their heads with the tasks of handling a mini supermarket and bar. So I am looking forward to them struggle and also see their part timers/guest stars suffer with them. Park Bo Young was adorable and want to see more of her help her sunbaes.

Find Me In Your Memory I utterly adore how laidback this show is. I really like Moon Ga Young and Kim Dong Wook characters here. Both have suffered through their losses their own way and found their own path to healing. Now part od my Rewatch List.

LUCA I know I have to drop this since it looks like its just going nowhere. But there is only two episodes left. Is it worth spending my two hours on?

River Where the Moon Rises Feel so bad for the cast and crew for the mess they are in right now. I may stick with episode recaps for now until ep9 when Na In Woo takes over or just fast forward his little remaining scenes. We shall see.

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JIS in variety makes me giddy like school girl. When they called the bus station asking for help, i was yelling to the woman on the phone, why won't you go and help them in person 😁

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Maybe she would've if she knew Jo In Sung was the other person with CTH. 😊

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JIS and CTH both said their name and introduce themselves on the phone. Admittedly if it’s me I’d probably would’ve think it’s just prank call 🤪

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