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Vincenzo: Episode 5

While Babel and and their law firm do damage control, our leads move onto the next phase of their plan. It’s time to take their fight to court. Our legal team knows the fight won’t be fair, and they’ll need to get creative to win against a corporation as powerful as Babel. Thankfully, unconventionality is our leads’ strong suit.

 
EPISODE 5

After their successful mission, Cha-young is flustered when one of the victims of the Babel case grabs her in a hug before leaving. Elsewhere, Joon-woo nearly chokes Chairman Jang to death because he doesn’t like his tone. He reminds Chairman Jang he’s just a puppet and orders him to ensure the fire is attributed to an electrical failing.

Vincenzo and Cha-young discuss their next steps over drinks. He’s determined to beat Babel in court, but he’s not licensed in Korea, so Cha-young will have to be their official lawyer. As a former insider, Cha-young decides targeting Babel Chemicals is their best shot. Meanwhile, Monk Chaeshin has a meal with a long-time friend who happens to be a Babel Chemicals employee.

At the gym, Chairman Jang overestimates his strength. Vincenzo just happens to pass by and help him out, and he makes a show of recognizing the amazing Chairman Jang. Playing the fan, Vincenzo strokes his ego while also testing him by dropping names and business knowledge that goes over Chairman Jang’s head.

Chairman Jang loses his cool when Vincenzo gets too in his space and brings up how tabloids have said the fire at the Babel factory was arson. Like Myung-hee, Vincenzo only needed one interaction to gather that Chairman Jang isn’t the real boss.

Joon-woo runs on the treadmill and talks to Cha-young on the phone while she does silks. He brings up the fire which Cha-young says Babel had coming, and Joon-woo readily agrees with her. After he hangs up, he surmises that she was behind it.

Vincenzo and Cha-young meet up, and she isn’t particularly surprised to hear that Chairman Jang is likely not the real leader of Babel. Drawing from Mafia strategy, Vincenzo guesses that the best way to draw out the real boss is to destroy the puppet. He’s surprised when Cha-young comes to the same conclusion.

While Myung-hee ruminates on her brush with death in the laundromat, Attorney Han barges in and shares that Vincenzo, the lawyer palling around with Cha-young, is clean. He checked with Italian sources and the NIS. Myung-hee is sure something is off about him and goes to check him out in person.

At Jipuragi, Myung-hee finds Joo-sung singing in Italian and wearing a knockoff blue suit. She asks if he’s Vincenzo, which he affirms while clicking one of those cheapy lighters in an aggressively uncool imitation of the real deal. She’s taken aback and doesn’t buy the act, especially when he almost burns his face off with his little lighter.

Myung-hee storms out and runs into Cha-young and the real Vincenzo in the hall. Vincenzo didn’t disguise his voice on the phone with Myung-hee, so Cha-young bluffs that he has tonsilitis and can’t speak.

Myung-hee invites herself for tea and poses her threats as well wishes, advising them to lay low so they can survive. When she keeps pressing Vincenzo to speak, he uses this strange, high-pitched voice. The whole encounter confuses Myung-hee who isn’t sure if Vincenzo is her guy.

At Wusang, Attorney Han calls Joon-woo into his office and reluctantly announces that he’s been made partner. Attorney Han is frustrated and baffled by Chairman Jang’s request, but he has no choice but to promote Joon-woo. In a move very reminiscent of Cha-young, Joon-woo does a little victory dance once he’s around the corner.

At Jipuragi, Cha-young gives a presentation about Babel Chemicals using Joo-sung’s ridiculously colorful slides that look like they were made by a grade schooler. The gist is that RDU-90 is not Babel’s only dangerous product embroiled in a lawsuit. Babel Chemicals is developing a new product, and several researchers exposed to it have died of “leukemia.”

The victims’ lawyer Attorney So is working with Wusang to convince the victims to settle. Babel owns the hospital that gave out fake diagnoses to the victims and has the newspaper Daechang Daily in their pocket.

Vincenzo is set on Jipuragi representing the victims, despite only having five days until the trial. He and Cha-young meet with Attorney So makes up excuses for accepting bribes. While he whines about how hard it’s been, Vincenzo interrupts to say hypocrisy is the only sin he can’t abide. He threatens to send him to a secluded place where no one will find him if he doesn’t agree to transfer his clients to them.

Chairman Jang presides over an awkward board meeting where he berates everyone for Babel’s plummeting stock and the tabloid articles about arson. He pettily forces them to eat spicy food and rushes out to take a call from Joon-woo who instructs him to have Daechang Daily (falsely) report that Babel Chemicals’ new product is market-ready.

Meanwhile, Cha-young thinks persuading the victims would’ve been faster than going for the lawyer. She brags to Vincenzo that she only needs five minutes to win them over. She wants to bet on it with the loser suffering a flick to the forehead, but Vincenzo refuses – he doesn’t hit women, even for games.

Vincenzo rolls his eyes as he watches Cha-young fake sob and try to convince the victims. But they have no desire to fight this out in court, especially after the Babel Pharmaceuticals case. When they mention how Yoo-chan died after supposedly coercing the victims and witnesses, Cha-young’s face turns stony.

For once, Cha-young turns sincere. She admits Yoo-chan was her father and says she wants to beat Babel against the odds. But even her earnest pleas don’t get through to them. Vincenzo joins in – with a megaphone for good measure – and argues that he and Cha-young are suited to the job because they’re winners, unshakeable, and tireless.

Elsewhere, Chairman Jang publicly announces the release of Babel Chemicals’ new product BLSD, a substance that will be used in display panels. As he shakes the researchers’ hands, Monk Chaeshin’s friend Woo-young starts to cough and grabs his chest. When Chairman Jang reaches him, Woo-young coughs and sprays blood all over Chairman Jang’s face.

Chairman Jang has a freakout and demands they call the hospital for him, entirely ignoring the unconscious Woo-young who collapsed. Chairman Jang’s bodyguards whisk him away as cameras flash. One of the other researchers lowers beside Woo-young and whispers that they won’t call the hospital until he signs.

Back at Geumga Plaza, CEO Park and his men eat at Chef Baek’s restaurant, and they make a show of “finding” a nail in the food. CEO Park threatens to put this on social media, and right as a fight breaks out, Vincenzo and Cha-young arrive.

CEO Park turns docile the second Vincenzo enters, but his men are fired up and try to fight. As expected, Vincenzo takes them out without problem. Cha-young recites the law while CEO Park walks shakily to the door. Vincenzo gets him to pay before leaving and hands Chef Baek a wad of his own cash to use to pay for the damage.

After Joo-sung rushes out of the office in nervous excitement for his first blind date in years, Vincenzo warms up his fingers – he changed his mind about the bet. His intense stretching makes Cha-young nervous, but she shuffles over to receive her penalty for failing to win over the victims.

Cha-young squeezes her eyes shut, but he takes forever deciding the exact location of the flick. She tells him to hurry up, so he steps closer. Vincenzo stares at her softly as she scrunches up her face in anticipation. He smiles and flicks her so lightly it’s more of a tap.

The romantic atmosphere is broken by Joon-woo sneaking in and startling Cha-young. He tells her something happened and excitedly busts a few moves. He ends on a knee slide and flexes his hand as he asks, “Can you feel my heartbeat?” HA!

Joon-woo tells her about making partner at Wusang, but her unenthusiastic reaction disappoints him. She offers to take him for a dinner (of her choosing), and he agrees after some grumbling. Vincenzo declines to go until Joon-woo suggests Italians can’t handle spicy food. They get into this stupid man argument over who can eat spicier food.

It turns out neither Vincenzo nor Joon-woo can handle super spicy food well, but they can’t admit it because weakness or something. Cha-young, on the other hand, adds more spice since it didn’t have enough kick. Joon-woo decides Vincenzo seems like a cold guy and warns him not to mess with Cha-young. Overstepping, much?

Meanwhile, Monk Chaeshin rushes to the hospital to see Woo-young. The doctor tells him Woo-young has leukemia. Since the doctor is one of Babel’s people, he attributes the illness to genetics or Woo-young’s own behaviors like smoking or not following Babel’s safety protocols.

While the boys suffer the consequences of their petty male rivalry, Cha-young gets a call from Monk Chaeshin. She tells Joon-woo to go home and helps Vincenzo up. Joon-woo watches as she wraps her arm around Vincenzo’s shoulder and walks him back to Geumga Plaza.

Cha-young and Vincenzo sit with the tenants and explain Babel’s latest atrocities concerning BLSD, including the fake diagnoses given to people like Woo-young. The tenants are livid since Woo-young is like family. Abruptly, MONK CHEOKHA hops up and, speaking for the first time, officially announces the completion of his training. He’s ready to help, too.

Attorney So hears chanting coming from the victims’ meeting room where a sign is posted barring him from joining. He enters and finds the victims no longer want him on their team. Monk Chaeshin and Monk Cheokha cast him out as an evil doer and slam the door in his face.

When the victims heard Cha-young’s recording of her drunk ex-colleague ranting about how Attorney So accepted bribes from Wusang, they signed with Jipuragi. As a bonus, Vincenzo emptied Attorney So’s office safe and donated all the dirty money to charity.

Cha-young and Vincenzo stop by Wusang to announce they’re now representing the Babel victims. Done hiding his identity, Vincenzo not only doesn’t disguise his voice, but he makes sure Myung-hee knows he was the one who threatened her by repeating a phrase he used on the phone with her.

After they leave, Attorney Han is impressed enough with Vincenzo and all the gutsy things he’s done that he wants to recruit him. Myung-hee is even more determined to win and announces she’ll handle all Babel cases, which thrills Attorney Han.

Joon-woo runs after Cha-young and begs Vincenzo to talk her out of fighting Babel, but it’s no use. Vincenzo and Cha-young are both determined. Joo-woo sighs to himself in dismay that he can’t keep going easy on Cha-young.

That night, Vincenzo pragmatically notes that Cha-young’s chances of winning against Myung-hee are low since she’s not willing to be as inhumane. Instead of focusing on winning, they should make sure it’s a draw. Vincenzo plans to teach Cha-young how to become a “real villain” now. She doesn’t like taking advice, but she agrees on the condition that he takes her advice in the future.

Suddenly, Cha-young smiles and wonders how Attorney So is. We see him zipped inside a sleeping bag on what looks like a little island that’s right across from Seoul. Next to him are a few survival supplies and some vegetable seeds.

At Jipuragi, the team discusses strategy. Vincenzo wants to employ the Mafia’s method of rigging the game so no one can win. They can’t postpone the trial, but Vincenzo is confident they can upend the trial while it’s in progress.

After a long night of work, Cha-young wonders about Vincenzo’s long-term plans and surprises him by asking if he’d want to stay in Korea. He looks pleased by the indication that she wants him to stay, but he isn’t attached enough to the country to settle here. Neither can fully hide their disappointment.

Before the trial, the tenants show their appreciation towards Vincenzo and Cha-young in their own ways. Hong-shik dry cleans their suits, Chef Baek sets out his mom’s homemade meal for them – the first food to get Vincenzo’s approval – and the monks pray.

Reporters swarm the Wusang team when they arrive at the courthouse, and Myung-hee accuses the plaintiffs of playing the victim unfairly painting the innocent conglomerate as bad. But once Cha-young and Vincenzo arrive in his badass car looking like celebrities, all eyes are on them. Cha-young poses against the sports car as she announces who she is.

Joon-woo smiles at Cha-young’s antics as Wusang is completely ignored. At the top of the stairs, Vincenzo announces in Italian that a devil drives out another devil. As the reporters puzzle over what he’s saying, a protest against Babel begins across the lawn.

The tenants put on a whole performance featuring chanting monks and an interpretive dance involving fake blood. The reporters go running, leaving only Wusang to witness Cha-young and Vincenzo’s smug strut into the courthouse.

 
COMMENTS

Vincenzo and Cha-young make a great team. They’re both determined, unorthodox, and unafraid to break the rules when necessary. Not only do they complement and read each other well, but they’re clearly getting attached. We got some romantic vibes between them this hour, which I knew had to be coming. Whenever a man and a woman in a drama bicker that much, they must fall in love. It’s basically a rule. Vincenzo is looking less excited about his plan to get the gold and split these days. Between potentially falling for Cha-young and getting more involved with the tenants who are starting to accept him as one of the family, he seems to be putting down more roots than he intended. And then, there’s the unresolved situation with his mother. Speaking of Kyung-ja, what will happen to her now that Yoo-chan is dead? He was the one making sure she got treatment in addition to representing her, so she could be in jeopardy now that he’s gone. Vincenzo might not be ready to face her, but I don’t know that he’d want her to have no one on her side. Maybe Cha-young can take over her case now that she’s stepping into her father’s shoes as a lawyer.

For now, though, everything is focused on this second Babel case. Even though I’m sure Vincenzo has something planned to upend the trial, Babel has enough power and support to turn most anything around. One lawsuit isn’t going to break them, and no matter what Vincenzo says, I can’t imagine he’ll be satisfied with the equivalent of a slap on the wrist for a company like that. If he does stay for longer and keep fighting Babel, his Mafia past is bound to be revealed. Although, with how much Vincenzo mentions the Mafia, he’s not exactly hiding his association. I initially thought Team Leader Ahn would be the one to reveal his past, but now that he’s a Vincenzo fan, he might actually prove to be an asset rather than a liability. But Babel and Wusang could potentially use Vincenzo’s background to discredit Jipuragi. And on a personal level, I bet Joon-woo and Myung-hee both would jump at the chance to take down Vincenzo.

The way Joon-woo switches between personas is frightening. I’m wondering if his puppy dog side is entirely fake or if he’s sort of a blend of his two identities. Not that it matters – even half of his violent persona is too much. It’s pretty safe to say that he does genuinely like Cha-young given his continued attempts to get her away from the Babel case and how he isn’t doing anything despite knowing she had something to do with the fire. I don’t think that will stop him from hurting her if he can’t find another way, but he does seem to be looking for a way to let her off the hook if possible. Now that she and Vincenzo are going head-to-head with Babel in court, though, that is going to be harder. They’ve made themselves targets and aren’t trying that hard to hide that they’re behind the misfortunes befalling Babel and Wusang of late. Vincenzo made it crystal clear to Myung-hee that he was the one to threaten her and take out her men, and it’s not hard to put the rest together. With people like Joon-woo and Myung-hee at the helm, I’d say forgiveness isn’t in the cards.

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Thank You for the recap!

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Suddenly, Cha-young smiles and wonders how Attorney So is. We see him zipped inside a sleeping bag on what looks like a little island that’s right across from Seoul. Next to him are a few survival supplies and some vegetable seeds.

Seeds from Cast Away + island from kmovie Castaway on the Moon.

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YES!!!! Was this not the best Easter Egg ever?! Castaway on the Moon is one of my all-time favorite movies and this tickled me to no end! As if I could love this drama anymore and then they do this!

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It's a sign that you have been around k-dramas/films for too long when you can spot that 😂.
I wish the people at RIVER would borrow from other dramas and make it interesting like this show.
Jung Jae‑young is one of my faves. I'm going to guess that you have seen "Going by the Book" too.

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Going by the Book was great!!!!

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LOL I knew it. You just can't watch one without the other.
Great shows indeed!!!

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This drama is a pile of bonkersness but I just love it! It makes me laugh out loud frequently and I very much appreciate it for that.

Enlightenment please: when they all turned up at the court, who was the woman in the little white car? Felt like I was missing a big in-joke there.

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I see tweets saying she was in the Fiery Priest. ^^

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I also wondered who she was and felt like I was missing something. 🤔

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She one of the main villains in Fiery Priest (Vincenzo's PD last drama)

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She is in the PD's last drama. Also I remember her in other dramas stealing scenes. She is a great character actress.

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She was the District Chairwoman in Fiery Priest.

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Indeed,she was in the writer drama...Hope for more cameo's..I'd loved if Junho would do a cameo,it would be so on point so maybe after he finishes military sevice..I can still hope!

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There is another cameo in ep 6 but we can talk about that at next recap =)

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I don't think I've laughed this much since the Waikiki dramas, love it! Speaking of which, I hope Kim Seonho will make a cameo here as well, as Chief Kim was his first drama.

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This episode was just wacky all throughout!!! Hahaha
-Atty. Nam cosplaying as Vincenzo (with optical tissue as a pocket square)?!
-The scoville face-off with spicy jjampong (Taec rubbing that pickled raddish on his tongue)?! And what with the argentine tango bgm? Hahaha!
-The fight scene with Vincenzo taking out the thugs and the piano girl saying, "He's not even hiding it. He's just outright hot".
-Ofc, that grand entrance by Cha Young and Vincenzo in a Lambo was jOTT.

I enjoyed it but missing the mafioso antics as usual. We also did get a shirtless Taec scene (someone listened to @ltung23 hahaha, now all we need is the two of them shirtless in one frame! >.<

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So many LOL moments. Re Atty Nam cosplaying, that plastic lighter was hilarious!

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This series is the most I really have like Song Soong ki as an actor. I think he really has a knack for comedy and should do it more.

He is absolutely charming in interviews, but a good actor that does not make.

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Curious who Atty. Nam blind date is

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I would love, LOVE a Honey Lee cameo and it be her.

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I’m having too much fun for a drama that doesn’t make much sense, and even so I don’t feel guilty at all, haha.

I think Han Seo is darker that we are shown (it must run on the family). The way he smiled after almost being chocked by his brother (I believe they are brothers, Joonwoo called him donsaeng although I know this doesn’t mean they are blood related) makes me think he has his own agenda, and the way he changed from scared to “everything is according to my plan” was interesting, KDY is an incredibly talented actor and I’m waiting for his twist.

I also agree JoonWoo cares for ChaYoung. So far, he’s told her so many times to step back form Babel (even before she left Wusang) that I know he’s true about that, although this doesn’t mean he will hurt her the same way he killed her father for “the greater good in”.

I still don’t know how Vincenzo’s real identity hasn’t been discovered, but I won’t argue with drama rules.

P.S. You already know that I love Taec, but shirtless Taec for no reason I even love more 😂😂😂

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Surely Han-seo has some agenda, he wants to be freed from his abusive brother (that blood related or not, we can talked about it when the next episode recap is up). I even think if he will be the crack Vincenzo going to break in the end.

Both sides of Joon-woo, I believe, are both real. He does have some cuteness as a young boy, but also ruthless in terms of a chaebol son. He obviously love Cha-young to the bone (thus that spicy battle: he truly believe Vincenzo is his rival in terms of winning her heart). That “Can you feel my heartbeat?” song he sing before Cha-young is in fact a song by 2pm (Taecyeon belongs to that exact group, but you've probably know that already), but according to the original song lyric, his heart will be broken, with the heart stops in the end ...
That song: https://youtu.be/bKtvDv7eykg

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The heartbeat moment broke me 🤣🤣🤣 it was so cute.
And yes you are right to think I’m a 2PM fan... not that I’ve been hiding it ☺️

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This is pretty fun, @eazal, to have a screenwriter who keep on referring the two leads' real self in the show (Those 4 plants last week--My jaw still hurt after laughing about that since then) ... Love this show, period.

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Kinda wanted Han Seo to backstab Joon Woo and team up with Vincenzo...Blame it on the entertaining unconventional duo from the writer's previous dramas(still Chief Kim& Gluttonous Sociopath fave)

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Oh, @miky88, I actually secretly expecting that backstabbing to happen, haha ...

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See, I read that different. I think he is truly frightened of his Joon woo and that smile was just a defense mechanism for him so Joon woo would stop.

That man truly is scared and on pins and needles when Joon woo is around.

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I agree that he's totally scared (and has motives), but somehow I felt he was confident when he smiled and said that if he was a puppet it was ok because it meant he could cut his strings.
And somehow I feel his tolerance of spicy food that is similar to Cha Young will play an important part in his this.
I do believe he has a plan, but still lacks the courage to make it happen because he's truly scared by JoonWoo (and probably he doesn't want to lose his life of privileges).

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I, too, am expecting there is more to Hanseo as well. He just needs stronger and smarter allies and the Jirapugi team is that option. I was expecting that when Vincenzo mentioned the line : the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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This drama is so fun. It kinda makes me forget how bad are the villains, because even them are funny.

I think it's a little bit too easy how Joon-woo can change his personality. It doesn't make any sense and clearly he has feelings for Cha Young.

Cha Youn is so funny, I just love her!

I liked the fact they used a Lamborghini at the end, the old tractors builder became famous because Ferrari didn't want his advices :p

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I actually find him scary how he can mask his true personality,that hard boiled type as he was talking about himself when he said that at the dinner table when he was kinda interrogating Vincenzo as he wasn't as sharp having his attention on the spiceness(smart move on Joon Woo)...He really is bat crazy in my eyes...At least with usual type u know one is evil or kind as they show it but he is a cameleon hiding it and exploading,also has quite the control on his temper but let's see when the truth is in the open how he will act...
Also that entrance is epic even more being a jab at Zumba Lady about their adversary is poor etc...

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Just where in SK can a Lamborghini stretch it’s legs?

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In my opinion, this drama can really do well without a love story or love triangle in it. They have enough going on already but hey as long as they keep the momentum going, I don’t mind the love story. I already like the fact that Cha young and Vincenzo’s feelings for each other is a slow burn. Meaning that, it’s taking its time to grow. If it was another K drama, on a very good day, one or both of the leads would have confessed their feelings already after 6 episodes but here we have them both still trying to figure it all out. Moving forward, I’ll like to see Vincenzo go 💯 rogue. To beat Babel, you’ll have to roll in the mud with them. They make a great team for sure and it’s only natural that Vincenzo will begin to have a soft spot for the tenants and Cha young considering the generous amount of time he spends with and around them.

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Don't think they will really go deep into romance genre,not really the writer thing..i think it will be something light asa very side story

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even if there is romance, I don't think it will play a major part though. just 2 people who grow into each other after spending together solving case for quite awhile.

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These two have such a great buddy-cop, Odd Couple dynamic that it almost seems a shame to ruin it with romance.

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And the lighter returns!! Any theories on how it got back from the fire? I’m imagining an epic journey - think Legend of the Blue Sea, poor thing.
Also appreciated the baby lighter.

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i was hollering -- you're going to toss your lighter??? they can trace that back to you! just toss a plastic BIC lighter for pete's sake...

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But the flame won't last with a BIC until it touches the ground and you can't be sure with a match.

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of course you are right. but still... even if he has multiple zippos, they all lead to him. loved those zippos, back in the day when i smoked... we'd do the leg swipe thing to light them... down, back, forth... voila.

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He's from Mafia, they don't hide they did it. I guess he needs time to get the Korean coutumes :p

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Maybe he as more than one?

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That was another theory... I like to believe in the devoted lighter - Vincenzo's sidekick, if you like.

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Its more of a signature do I think he has a good supply of that lighter

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My guess is simple: he has a whole shipment of Zippo at home.

Sorry, I disappointed you, @jance.

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Maybe in the gold safe?

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It can be, much more interesting.

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He definitely has a cache somewhere, just like the gold. As for them tracing it back to him, not yet it won't be.

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I used to figure he just had a bunch of lighters, but I've decided to think of it as Indy's hat in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade where he almost falls of the cliff and the hat just kind of rolls back to him out of nowhere. :D

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I’m with you

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I’m really looking forward to your fanfics on the Adventures of Vincenzo’s Lighter. Think of all the places it’s been, all the secrets it’s heard, and burned to ashes, and the long and winding road back to V!

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I’m going to legit photoshop it into other dramas.

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The few close ups of the lighter show that it is gold, dented and slightly damaged.

We don't see it, but I am sure he picks it up once he looks cool dropping it and that part we don't see.

He said it was a give from his late Mafiaso Father.

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*gift

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ok, imagining he come back to pick it up after that makes me laugh ngl

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I bet he has a lot even if i see it has a logo but think Vincenzo at the moment doesn't care to hide it...I'm so gonna end up buying myself one of those even if i don't smoke just because it's so damn cool and i like the sound...

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Let's talk about some history.

In 2013, a movie came to Busan International Film Festival (Detail report: https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/crowd-funded-film-on-cancer-victim-s-fight-with-samsung-reveals-untold-stories-1.1491674). It is a story about a girl being hired by a corporation to work on their memory chip factory, and soon (4 years, I mean) died in leukemia.

The only difference between that story and this one in Babel Chemicals BLSD, is that is a real story. Hwang Yu-mi died aged 23 from leukemia in 2007, later become the backbone of the story behind of that movie shown in BIFF in 2013, called Another Promise (director later changed the name to Another Family, although he didn't confirm that the name change was due to pressure of the plutocrat behind the case, Samsung, which corporate slogan at the time was actually "Another Promise"). 11 years after her death, Samsung officially apologized and reached a final settlement with Banolim, the main group representing the families of ex-employees like Yu-mi who died from leukemia and other cancers while working at the company's semiconductor factories (Detail here: https://www.zdnet.com/article/samsung-reaches-conclusion-of-11-years-leukemia-controversy/).

Another interesting fact about that movie: Another Promise is the first movie being fund solely through a crowdfunding campaign, gathering the funding of KRW₩1.5 billion (US$1.3 million) by 7,722 private donations – ₩303 million (US$285,123) from 7,500 people.

It is pretty interesting to call the big bad corporation in Vincenzo as “Babel”, an obvious Biblical reference about a tower built by human trying to challenge God’s authority. Another Biblical reference is in Attorney So’s office, who hides his bribe money in a save behind a painting depicting the scene Judas kissing Jesus so the soldiers know who to arrest. Even that Italian idiom (“Evil should be punished by greater evil”) has some Biblical roots. Samsung is a huge corporation which own 17% of GDP in whole South Korea (20% in 2012), can make an whistleblower attorney, who used to be prosecutor of 2 former Presidents of the country as well legal advisor of Samsung, into a baker trainee no one want to hire (who later wrote a book called Thinking about Samsung, Kim Yong-cheol in 2010).

They surely need a huge evil to take down such corporation, and I guess Vincenzo Cassano is just too light in my taste. This is the only complain I have with the show, and a huge one.

On the other hand, the two-face Joon-woo surely representing that exactly corporation, who is nice when he is with those he really wants to please (the costumers? I believe he does love Cha-young, so he is kind of lenient to her), and he is kind of cute in some sense (afterall, he studied in United States), but deep down he is cruel and ruthless (Not only those South Korean Chaebol, but American corporations, too). So, when you are really planning to...

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... So, when you are really planning to choose a Samsung Galaxy as your next cellphone, think again.

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Uhhh should have known this 2 months back when I bought my galaxy. Okay no more samsung from now on. Thanks for the info.

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Haha, @orientedstar125, that's okay, then try thinking twice when you are shopping your next LCDs, computers, fridges and washing machines (yes, they make those, too). For South Koreans, they sometimes have no choice at all, because Samsung even build houses (Think about why Babel involves in forcing people out of old buildings in the beginning of this show) and selling insurance.

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I sold my soul to 🍏 ages ago.
It’s not a better master, tbh.

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No, @eazal. The better masters belongs to those good brands that passed away (I am using Blackberry, a company now only sell the name to other phone companies) ... Which is sad.

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I miss my old BB. I loved it so, so much I still keep it, just in case I have to time travel so I can fit in the early 2000.

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Try the next BB, @eazal, a Texan company will produce the next Blackberry starting around first or second quarters this year, although, I know, they can't be as good as those Blackberry built themselves back then (and they are actually Android devices).

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By the way, Another Promise/Another Family can be seen on YouTube movie channel, go check it out (and please kindly prepare tissue before you do)

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Amidst all the lighthearted comments on this thread and found elsewhere on this drama, I found yours to be very informative, and, dare I say, eye-opening for those willing to be saved from their blindness. Thank you.

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This is the first episode which I simply enjoyed, not bothered by anything 😊 Maybe because I have already adjusted to the humor of the show and/or maybe because I feel that the show has already settled down. It seems that the now knows what it wants to be.

I agree, Vincenzo and Cha-young make a great team 🙌 I’d love to see them fight Babel with each of them bringing their experience to good use. But what I love most is that both of them are fierce and unafraid. Cha-young, in particular, can still talk to Myung-hee with such composure despite knowing the truth. And who can ever forget their grand entrance! 😃

I still can’t help but think of how it would’ve been if Kwak Dong-yeon and Ok Taecyeon switched roles…🤭 but am also excited to see what their characters are really up to, especially now that they have more airtime. Yes, I also think Joon-woo cares for Cha-young. And Chairman Jang reminds me of Son HoJun’s role in Terrius hahaha

The tenants plus Agent Ahn are so fun =D That dancer guy is amazing

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That entrance was a hoot!!! When the sexy blue Lamborghini made the entrance, the reporters just forgot that the Babel lawyers even existed! And then there is Cha-young making those ridiculously hilarious poses in front of the car! Vincenzo became one of my favorite dramas for 2021 already. Can't wait for more!!

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I would also like to wonder which "Villain", would turn and become an ally, like Lee Joon-Ho in Chief Kim and Go Jun in Fiery Priest? For now I cannot imagine Taecyeon to do that, but who knows if there will be a much darker and scary villain?

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Hope Han Seo teams with Vincenzo...I doubt JunWoo would change as he is the main villain...

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I agree for Han Seo, but I really want a good plot twist where someone unimaginable will make 360 degree turn and join the Vincenzo side.

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180°, because 360° will only go back to the original point, i.e., not change at all.

Sorry to be mean, haha ...

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No no. It's okay. No offense taken.

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I love this episode.

I also like that we are seeing other sides to Chairman Jang. I am sure his line of cutting his puppet strings will have meaning in future episodes. So interested to see how the puppet will fight back. Would love to see that happen! Inner turmoil in Babel can only benefit our Jipuragi crew.

Also, the paralegal cosplaying as Vincenzo was such a hoot. Would be nice of Myung Hee have not met Vincenzo personally yet. But I guess the story has to move forward.

Also Joon Woo seems to care a lot for Cha Young as that spicy noodle battle shows. Vincenzo appears ro be warming up to her as well despite the side eyes at her antics.

Love Vincenzo's reaction to Cha Young's fake crying infront of their clients. Would love to see more of that and hopefully an eye roll soon.

That last scene as they drove up to the court house... Love It!

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Not only is he warming up to Cha young, he is warming up to the antics/out of the box personalities of her and the other people in the plaza. They don't make he jump anymore and he just leans in and accepts it. He genuinely seems to like all of them and vice versa. And he finally got a full meal as a result.

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He just rolls with it now.
I like that his first full meal was a home cooked meal by a real Korean mom. That counts a lot especially with his mom issues.

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Love this show. Just one example of a cheeky humor that might be missed in the translation:
The sign outside the door that says Attorney So not allowed literally translates to "no peeing allowed". It's why it looks like an out-of-service sign.
"소변", or "So-byun" literally means pee, but last name + "byun" is one of the shorthands to call someone who is a lawyer (which is byun-ho-sa romanized). The small letters in black complete the ho-sa part of "Attorney So not allowed".

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Thanks for sharing this!

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The So Byun joke comes around every couple of years in dramas. Makes me giggle every time. I must be a 9-year-old boy at heart.

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The show has finally begun!
Now this drama started looking like Fiery Priest or Chief Kim which I looove!
Jeon Yeo-bin definitely toned down and got better (or I got used it?) but Taecyeon.... his acting is still over the top..
I hope he will get better.
Maybe Kwak Dong-yeon is going to be next Jun-ho in Chief Kim?
He will join the good side in the end...

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Or will it be Myunghee? The prosecutors in writernim’s previous dramas, Junho in Chief Kim and Honey Lee (Fiery Priest) betrayed the baddies and joined forces with the good side.

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I vote for Kwak Dong-yeon's character to be the the Myung-suk type character in Chief Kim. He's got the bluster and obviously-not-very-intelligent type of feel. Myung-suk started off as a bully in TQ until Chief Kim scared some good into him! Then he betrayed his dad.

Unless they can prove that Myung-hee was never involved in the hit on Yoo-chan, I think she's too far gone to join.

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Myung Hee is too far gone to the dark side. I vote for Han Seo to be the new Myung Suk.

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I think Cha Young is the counterpart of JunHo's character Seo Yul.
And Han Seo can be the new Myung Suk.

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This showbhas settled into a nice groove for me. Jeon Yeo Bin's overactive has stopped and the show has become funnier for me. Also SJK's little smirks are so precious to me😍. And Taec, I am liking him in this role. He isn't too bad at all. Also I have a feeling the Chairman is going to break bad and lose it. I can't wait.

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But why is Myung Hee, a woman who was a well-established Prosecutor and is now partner in a prestigious law firm, doing her wash in a public laundromat?

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I guess the show is telling you the façade a bad corporation trying to put on, as well a lot of those rely on those bad corporations are common people. Myung-hee does not only clean her clothes in a public laundromat, but also love dance acrobat, even speaking in a layman Gyeongsang Dialect, in short, those support such suppressive corporations are probably common people like you and me. As I mentioned in my own comment (#10), the plutocrat Babel based on, Samsung, own 17% GDP of South Korea, and they are like everywhere in South Korean society, not only cellphones. They also make home appliances (fridges, washing machines, etc.), producing food (Samsung originate as a produce wholesaling company back in 1938), even building houses and selling insurance.

Something more about her Gyeongsang Dialect as well. Gyeongsang provinces are the main supporting base of right-wing political parties, along with those big corporations, and those right wings in South Korea related to the countries dictators (think about the last right wing president, Park Geun-hye, was the daughter of a dictator in the 60-70's ...)

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#9, in fact, sorry.

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Okay, you're the perfect person to ask about a Netflix subtitle attributed to the ex-Prosecutor that struck me as odd. When informed that Vicenzo's reputation was "clean" as a lawyer she replied, "Is this your first rodeo?". Was that a literal translation or a paraphrase? It's such a cowboy thing to say. Are there rodeos in South Korea? I'm fascinated.

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Okay, you're the perfect person to ask about a Netflix subtitle attributed to the ex-Prosecutor that struck me as odd. When informed that Vincenzo's reputation was "clean" as a lawyer she replied, "Is this your first rodeo?". Was that a literal translation or a paraphrase? It's such a cowboy thing to say. Are there rodeos in South Korea? I'm fascinated.

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Thank you for the information about the dialect. I guess I should look around me at Target and wherever and realize that other people around me are devious and incredibly corrupt. *sigh*Like the last four years weren’t enough to teach me that 😞

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No talk about the cameo by Jung Young Joo (The Fiery Priest Alum) in only a way that Young Joo can do.

Joon woo still continues not impressing me. He is crazy and has shown to be dangerous but he is not very smart. He is proof that being education does not equate to being bright or smart.

His brother is frighten of him because he knows he can die tomorrow. And I still cannot believe he also has not figured out that Joon woo is the one who left that mess in his bed. There literally could not have been anyone else to do it. Here is hoping Chairman Jang breaks rank and joins Vincenzo and Cha young in the future.

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Vincenzo people left the "bloody" pillow not Joon Woo...

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Jang said he has no idea how they got past all of his security. Joon woo would have access.

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Vincenzo as well...That was his present after he went again to the crime scene...His Friend and minions did it.And he knew Cha Young would be the one blamed...

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Jung Yeong Ju is a great character actress. I always remember her stealing scenes in kdramas. This little drive by is another great example. She was also in The Fiery Priest but I have not seem that show yet.

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"Vincenzo announces in Italian that a devil drives out another devil."
My video game nerdy self was giggling at the mentioned of DIABLO by one of the reporters.
Had to call my Blizzard fanboys/girls to watch the show 😂.

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*whispers* purple suit purple suit purple suit...

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He looked sooo handsome in purple suit 😍

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What a fun episode! Loved it! Especially the part where all the residents were making sure our duo got their clothes pressed and had full stomach before they make their way to battle. And then that interpretive dance killed me!

I agree that the way Joon-woo switches between cute/goofy to evil mastermind is scary. Like you get lulled into him being harmless and then get slapped with a reminder that the dude is evil and pretty sharp. I jumped when when he surmised that Cha-young was behind the fire. The scarier thing is that I think both personas are real.

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I'm Fangirling Song Joong Ki for the whole drama. This is aim for SOng Joong Ki fangirl like me... LOL

It's been long I want to see Joong Ki doing an action scene with suit, Omona

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Oh my gosh where have you been? Let's pray that he doesn't go back to that one show that shall not be named.

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as much I Love his dual roles, I can't get past episode 10 onwards that shall not be named.. How am I supposed continue watching Season 2?

I'm on drama slump so rarely in here.

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I couldn't finish it either but I tried, I really tried.
I wish he'd do an indie film.

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... 👀 *munches on a carrot*

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I'm afraid that drama is just being postponed instead of cancelled. hope for real. please makes them forget it lol. Since Kim Won Suk pd nim no longer involved anyway.

since film is abit on slump, I would like his next project is netflix drama like extracuricullar, sweet home, etc. for once in a critically acclaim project. but for now, i enjoy vincenzo.

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I'm so enjoying this. It's silly and predictable, but I'm being carried along by Song Joong-ki and Ok Taec-yeon. Both are compelling, especially the Taec-yeon who can switch on a dime. Jeon Yeo-been is doing ok, but she often reminds me of a not totally funny Honey Lee imitation. I do have a gripe about Kim Yeo-jin's Choi Myung-hee - the character, not the actor. Why is it that older, unattractive women have to be the evil ones in k-dramas? (I assume she will stay evil. In the beginning, I thought she had her own revenge agenda, but after the killings, I doubt she'll redeem herself.) It happens so often that the older women are twisted beyond repair, and everything about Choi Myung-hee is gross. It's even hard to look at her, and I am sure she smells. She's such an obvious villain. At least Taec-yeon, who is just as, if not more evil, is good to look at. It's too easy.

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Each time something good happens or Vincenzo proceeds well, I get anxious cause I know things can't always go as you want them. I'm afraid they surprise him in a way he never expects :(

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I'm loving this show so much! It's laugh-out-loud funny at times, a lot of the characters are endearing and SJK really shines. And he looked 18-years old in that cap. And that purple suit. Holy smokes. The man travels from cute to hot to childish and cool like a breeze.

And Taec. I love Taec. His transitions from bubbly and cute energizer bunny to terrifying cheabol is so creepy. That noodle battle. Aww. He really goes all in. So cute! Did I mention how cute he is?

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Vincenzo is just so great it brought me back from the dead. Haha! Hello beanies! It’s good to be back after more than 2years hiatus.

At first, I wasn’t really inclined to watch this drama as I am not a fan of dark comedy. But I was willing to give it a try because you know it’s Song Joong Ki oppa in tux (who wouldn’t love that). The first few minutes got me on the hook when Vincenzo burned the mafia boss’ entire vineyard. Badass!!! I didn’t know I would enjoy stuffs like that since I am a gentle creature as far as I know. But then again it’s probably because of Joong Ki who enticed me with his visuals. I have been a big fan of his since his Innocent Man days.

This episode gives us a glimpse of a potential romantic vibes between the two leads. Though I would be more than happy if they could go away without it (jealous noona, eh?). Head monk is finally done with his “training” so I am looking forward to how his scenes will play other than a few “uhhhhkkrrrrmmmmm”. Joon Woo being the true chairman but hiding behind a puppet is more frightening to me. His duality makes it easy for him to penetrate the Jipuragi law firm under Vincenzo’s nose. Waiting for the day he’ll finally get exposed to Cha Young.

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This episode was awesome, everything just came together nicely. This show is such a fun, rollicking ride. Completely ridiculous of course. But so much damn fun.
Even the weird soft core BL choking scene where Taec seemed to be trying to mount KDY made me laugh so much.

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