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Doom at Your Service: Episode 5

After our heroine puts herself in harm’s way to save our gloomy lead, he realizes his understanding of humans may be less complete than he thought. Since he can’t read our heroine’s thoughts, he’s left with good old-fashioned observation to try to make sense of her motivations. To our heroine’s exasperation, he decides this is best accomplished by following her everywhere and never taking his eyes off her.

 
EPISODE 5

After compelling the attacker to cut his own throat, Myeol-mang reiterates that people can only want, resent, or fear him. Dong-kyung slowly reaches up to touch his blood-streaked face, but he grabs her hand before she can touch him.

He moves them away from the entrance, and Dong-kyung marvels at his completely healed hand. He swats her away and asks who she thinks she is. Meanwhile, medics rush the man into the hospital where no one remembers seeing Dong-kyung and Myeol-mang during the incident.

Myeol-mang angrily asks why she’d endanger herself to protect him when she was wishing for his death shortly before. Anyway, she knows he can’t die. Dong-kyung fires back that he can still hurt and bleed. She sees the suffering in his face every day, and she can’t help wanting to spare him more pain.

He sighs that he’s not the one in pain. Dong-kyung retorts that if he knows that, he should stop yelling at a sick person. “Just like I’m not getting mad at you!” she says angrily. Ha. Somewhat baffled, Myeol-mang says they should drop it.

Dong-kyung answers his question from earlier about why her life is special enough that she should survive. There is no reason – it just is. The same is true now. There’s no reason for why she tried to save him. It just happened by instinct. She apologizes for “not knowing her place,” but she doesn’t regret what she did. He should thank her.

Myeol-mang storms up to her and says that man is going to die because he killed him. “So I’m not worthy of you doing something ‘just because.'” Dong-kyung knows Myeol-mang must’ve had a reason for killing that man “because that’s the kind of being you are.”

They’re interrupted by a sobbing Sun-kyung who throws his arms around Dong-kyung. He apologizes profusely through his tears and panics when he sees the blood on her coat, although she assures him it isn’t hers. Sun-kyung is inconsolable on the drive back to Dong-kyung’s and cries the whole way to Dong-kyung and Myeol-mang’s frustration.

When Sun-kyung learns that Myeol-mang has known the whole time about Dong-kyung’s illness, he thinks it’s a sign of true love and approves them moving in together. He peppily goes limping off, telling Dong-kyung to rest and not worry about him.

Once he’s out of sight, Sun-kyung immediately starts crying again and calls to tell his friend he’s not going to that academy. He walks into the first place with a “hiring” sign: Hyun-kyu’s café. Taking in his red-rimmed eyes and pitiful state, Hyun-kyu hires him on the spot.

That night in their joined house, Myeol-mang stares at his book without flipping the pages while Dong-kyung watches a news report on the stabber’s death. After learning the man’s identity, Dong-kyung asks if Myeol-mang was doling out punishment.

When he says he did it because the man “bothered” him, Dong-kyung notes that Myeol-mang says that about her too. She can’t imagine her and that man are the same to him, but Myeol-mang asks, “How are you different?”

He stares at Dong-kyung as she struggles to wash the blood out of her clothing, but when she turns to offer to wash his clothes, Myeol-mang is gone. He doesn’t emerge the rest of the night, leaving Dong-kyung to sleep alone on the couch.

Myeol-mang goes back in time to the incident with the stabber and watches everything unfold from inside the ambulance. His eyes lock on Dong-kyung as she sees the weapon and jumps in front of him. The goddess appears next to Myeol-mang in the ambulance and asks why he saved Dong-kyung.

She calls his reasoning that he needs Dong-kyung to end the world a “good excuse.” Myeol-mang admits he wants to know what Dong-kyung was thinking – did she really save him just because? The goddess encourages him to ask Dong-kyung directly.

Dong-kyung wakes up to find Myeol-mang sitting in her living room. He gets straight to the point. What did she mean by “just because?” Did she save him because she needs Myeol-mang to survive? Dong-kyung challenges him to put himself in her shoes and try to figure it out.

She supposes he doesn’t understand how to utilize this necessary skill since he’s not human. Irritated but curious, Myeol-mang asks how it works. Dong-kyung takes him on a little outing to practice guessing people’s motivations based on observing them, but he cheats by reading their thoughts. The only thing he’s able to accurately guess is that he’s making Dong-kyung mad.

Dong-kyung asks for his full name so she can call him by it when she’s angry, but he doesn’t have one. She decides to name him herself and starts ironically calling him Kim Sa-ram (saram = person).

When Myeol-mang almost gets plowed over by a shopping cart, Dong-kyung yanks him back and loses her balance. Myeol-mang gets to do the obligatory slow-motion catch, after which they stare at each other for a long moment.

Still in his arms, she awkwardly breaks the silence and asks him to let go of her. Myeol-mang does but keeps looking at her. He says he doesn’t get it and warns her that he’s going to start observing and trying to figure her out like she suggested.

We cut to Dong-kyung staring in dismay at Myeol-mang who is now posing as Jung-min at her office. Dong-kyung is called into Joo-ik’s office where he asks if she’s talked to Ji-na after hearing that they kissed. She says no which doesn’t seem to be the answer he’s looking for. He tells Dong-kyung to get him everything they have on Ji-na’s work and dismisses her.

Throughout the day, Myeol-mang stares at Dong-kyung non-stop and pesters her about everything. He even marches over to complain when he gets a papercut. Although he’ll heal supernaturally, Dong-kyung puts a band-aid on it, explaining that it’s just as much about consolation as physical healing.

Myeol-mang is so openly interested in Dong-kyung’s every move that the whole office assumes they’re dating. Dong-kyung later chides his immature way of “observing” her and is relieved to hear he won’t infiltrate her workplace the next day.

Using his nascent powers of observation, Myeol-mang notices Dong-kyung seems tired and finds a seat for her on the subway. He pretends to be indifferent to her praise over his considerate behavior but can’t help cracking a small smile.

Dong-kyung starts to feel awkward when Myeol-mang refuses to find a seat and instead stares at her silently, continuing his observation. She distracts herself by checking out Ji-na’s web novel and is happy to see the man sitting next to her reading a web novel by one of LifeStory’s other authors.

She grins, and Myeol-mang wonders what’s so funny. Is it because the story isn’t in order? That’s what the man next to her is thinking. Alarmed, Dong-kyung checks her phone and realizes the wrong episode was uploaded.

At home, Ji-na reads through the mostly positive comments on her novel. Then she sees a comment complaining that all her male leads are the same. She vows to get revenge on Hyun-kyu.

Meanwhile, Joo-ik reads Ji-na’s latest chapter. Hyun-kyu is surprised to find him home early, but Joo-ik says he has to leave work early or late to avoid his coworkers. Hyun-kyu suggests he tell people he’s the landlord’s son, but Joo-ik doesn’t want people to think he’s slacking off because he’s rich.

Hyun-kyu gets annoyed that Joo-ik isn’t paying enough attention to him and snatches Joo-ik’s tablet out of his hands. He reads a scene from Ji-na’s novel and calls the male lead trash. When he says he’s not worth the female lead’s tears, Joo-ik agrees and wonders what she sees in him. He rates the story five stars.

The next day, CEO Park yells at everyone over video call for the upload disaster. Dong-kyung takes the blame for Da-in’s mistake and is disappointed when CEO Park doesn’t let her immediately hand in her resignation.

Dong-kyung meets with the writer (cameo by Nam Da-reum) who is now refusing to finish the story. She takes him for lunch and finds Myeol-mang running the little restaurant. Myeol-mang watches with distaste while Dong-kyung sweet talks the rude young writer.

When the writer asks for more food, Myeol-mang says they’re out of everything, so Dong-kyung runs to the convenience store. Myeol-mang takes her chair and confronts the kid over his rudeness. They bicker until the writer walks out.

Myeol-mang smiles to see Dong-kyung badmouth the kid later and wonders why she held it in. Dong-kyung hadn’t noticed Myeol-mang walk up and asks how long he’s been following her around. “From the moment you were born.”

He explains that he follows humans from the day they’re born. Thanks to her, he’s had to do even more “public observation.” Myeol-mang again encourages her to wish for money, but Dong-kyung sighs that everyone lives like this. People all have their own burdens to bear, even if they’re not as severe as Dong-kyung’s.

Myeol-mang suddenly covers her eyes with his hand. When he uncovers her eyes, they’re at her beach. She takes it in and says she feels like she can live again. Dong-kyung shares that she used to sit like this on the beach every day as a child when she felt like crying.

She didn’t want to cry in front of others or even herself, so she held it in. Myeol-mang slowly reaches his hand toward her but stops short of stroking her hair. Dong-kyung asks why he’s being so nice to her, and he jokingly replies he’s trying to seduce her.

After some staring, Dong-kyung asks if he wants to kiss. But when he bends down and leans in, she pulls back. Myeol-mang smiles and says he’ll pretend she didn’t say anything. She lets him help her up, and then they’re back outside her apartment where Dong-kyung awkwardly rushes inside.

The following day, Ji-na goes to the salon in preparation for facing Hyun-kyu at the reunion. The stylist is a friend and commiserates over how awful Hyun-kyu was for breaking up with Ji-na over text.

Ji-na is surprised to get a call from Joo-ik asking to meet. He offers to help guide her in all aspects of creating her work so that she gets into the Top 10. If he succeeds, he’ll take a 5% cut. She’ll have to agree to listen to him completely.

Joo-ik notices she got her hair done and surmises it’s because of Hyun-kyu. He knows she won’t listen but tells her not to go the reunion anyway. Ji-na argues it’s none of his business, but he points out her only writing weakness is her recurring male lead. To fix that, she needs to let go of her regret.

Dong-kyung arrives home that night as Myeol-mang is leaving for a job. He lets her tag along to a village where they watch a traditional wedding ritual. (The groom wears a squid mask and carries a box of wedding gifts from his home to the bride’s.)

Myeol-mang explains that doom isn’t only about physical death. Being unable to see the things you used to see daily is a form of death, too. It’s his job to watch over all types of doom, including situations like this.

He agrees with Dong-kyung that it’s both pretty and sad. She’s reminded of the way a supernova shines brightest in death, and its energy becomes another star. “Isn’t it like that? Both this and you.”

Myeol-mang confesses that he thought he’d been wrong to choose her, but now he thinks it was a good decision. “Love me,” he says. If she can, it could be a good method. “Become the first human to ever love me.” Above their heads, a shooting star traces a path through the sky.


 
COMMENTS

Does Myeol-mang being on board with her plan mean that he’s changing his goal? His first reaction to Dong-kyung’s declaration to make him the person she loves most was to take it as a challenge. Now, his demeanor has completely changed. He said before that he’d have killed himself already if it were possible, so maybe he’s decided to use her to achieve that end rather than having her doom the world. It’s unlikely the goddess would let his plan of ultimate destruction succeed anyway, so I can see how this could seem like his only way out. But I doubt the goddess will stand still while he dies, either. From what we know, he’s needed for balance in the world. Since she created him, I suppose she could bring another being with his function into existence, but maybe it’s not that simple. Whatever the case, I’m sure the goddess won’t allow Myeol-mang and Dong-kyung to bring about disharmony.

One thing that became evident this hour is that this drama has gone all in on the staring. SO MUCH STARING. I felt like a quarter of the episode was Dong-kyung and Myeol-mang just staring into each other’s eyes, but thanks to Park Bo-young and Seo In-gook’s chemistry, it kind of works. Now they’ve even incorporated staring into the plot with Myeol-mang’s literal interpretation of Dong-kyung’s instructions to observe. Watching Dong-kyung teach Myeol-mang how to perspective take was cute. I hadn’t considered how his ability to read humans’ thoughts would hinder his ability to read people in a traditional way. He’s never had to use cues to surmise what people are thinking or feeling, which has made him inattentive. I loved that moment in the subway when he was all proud of himself for anticipating Dong-kyung’s needs. When he’s not determined to be unlovable, he can be pretty endearing.

Myeol-mang finally appears to be accepting that he has emotions and has stopped being a jerk about it. Dong-kyung’s selfless act of putting herself in danger to save him made an impact and showed him he might not know as much about humans as he thought. It’s nice to see him taking a step back, making an effort to truly see Dong-kyung rather than slapping the label “human” on her and calling it a day. Dong-kyung is now the one growing hesitant to take things further. Loving Myeol-mang in the abstract is one thing – loving him in reality is another. Not that I blame her. She’s considering loving doom himself, which isn’t what most would call a wise idea. And now that he’s dropping his guard a little and not actively pushing her away, it doesn’t seem impossible. Sun-kyung made the comment before that Dong-kyung can’t resist people who are nice to her, which is probably why she almost kissed Myeol-mang on the beach. Myeol-mang can see that she isn’t ready to take the next step yet, and maybe he’s realizing this plan takes two. He’ll need to cooperate and treat her well for this to work. Of course, we already know he’ll fall for her too. We know Sun-kyung, at least, is all about their “true love.”

I’m glad that Sun-kyung is indeed re-evaluating his choices and responsibilities after learning about Dong-kyung’s diagnosis. There’s hope for the kid yet. I didn’t expect Hyun-kyu to come into play through Sun-kyung, but I like the idea of them working together. Now with this potential contract between Joo-ik and Ji-na, it’s only a matter of time before everyone’s lives intersect. I guess Joo-ik was only half joking when he made that proposal to the sleazy writer about helping him in the rankings. I’m not clear on how on the up-and-up this kind of contract is, but it sounds like he’d be a consultant, essentially. With regards to Ji-na, it’s hard to tell how much of Joo-ik’s interest is personal versus professional. I don’t think Joo-ik is the type of person to let his feelings dictate his work, so he must believe in her writing ability, but his interest in her doesn’t seem entirely professional. I have a feeling things will get messy, although Ji-na already kind of seems like a mess. She’s let Hyun-kyu have way too much power over her. I don’t know enough about her relationship with Hyun-kyu to say whether she should drop him for good, but I hope she doesn’t lose herself in whoever she dates next.

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I seriously can't get enough of this show, it's gonna be a long and painful wait until ep 7😭

PBY and SIG's chemistry is just off the charts. I don't find the side characters all that interesting yet but these two are just perfect. Their push-and-pull relationship, their banter, their long stares into each other's eyes, the hand-holding... 🤩 also PBY is very expressive with her eyes, and she does cute really well.

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I am here for Seo In Gook and the mole under his eye. And their chemistry is off the charts. That said, why are the dialogues so wordy yet so cryptic. Sometimes i wonder WTH they're talking about and what's the point they're trying to make.

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also, whats the techincally correct term for the second lead triangle. and what if Joo Ik is not end goal for Ji Na. is that second lead syndrome squared? I'm confused.

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No move is stronger than being nice, all those reverse driving and ball stoppings can never reach the level of the power of a bad boy being nice and Doom is a bad boy who's being nice, so Dong-Kyung's ganna fall for him hard, if she hasn't yet

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As someone who has spent countless hours on a crowded subway train that goes a torturous 10 mph for 75% of the way, getting her that seat was a killer move. I swooned.

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Well, that makes sense :D

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The situation is so complicated, that it's hard to follow their feelings. Between Doom who is completely ignorant about human, except their bad side, and DK who realized she will suffer if she loves him...

I like Joo-Ik character. He should tell to Ji-Na and Hyun-Kyu that he knows both of them. But otherwise, his words are pretty wise, he's professional but he cares about Ji-Na and Hyun-Kyu.

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I like how Joo-Ik is trying to get Ji-Na out of her writing rut, though part of me is like "so what if she's all hung up on Hyun-kyu?! Kang Tae-oh is adorable!! "

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Yeah, he's but I don't think he suffered in a second lead role as much as Lee Soo-Hyuk! I never recovered from Valid Love!

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Valid love can never be justified.. NEVER...

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What did you want?

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The staring was pretty fabulous...

...but I still would like more clues about *why* people are behaving as they are or shifting strategies all the time. Why does Myeol-mang suddenly decide Dong-kyung loving him is a better plan? Why is Joo-ik acting the way he is with Ji-na? and on an on. Although as viewers we can make intelligent guesses, it still feels like trying to find a narrow road in a fog - it would be more effortlessly enjoyable with a few landmarks.

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All Myeol-mang actually wanted from the beginning was for him to die/dissapear and the Doom the world wish was just a means to achive that. Like Dong Kyung said he's a good guy and he doesn't care that much about actually ending the world he just wants to stop his existence as Doom. He has realized Dong Kyung loving him would still achive his goal of dying but in a less messy way for her so he's going along with it. But I agree, at times, things are not clear enough.

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He doesn’t think it’s a better plan, really - he just previously thought it was completely impossible and now he thinks there’s a chance (and so it’s worth trying).

The way people are behaving isn’t strange for me, but then again I’m expecting them to behave as rational actors in the context of their own lives, NOT in relation to a relationship goal. So Doom doesn’t suddenly go from hating DK to loving her - he goes from believing his only way out is the doom-wish to realizing that loving a human may be possible.

The motivator isn’t a sudden and strong desire to love DK, though. It’s achieving his goal, and as a result has opened him up to the idea of loving someone like DK. So a much smaller shift than if you assume he’s taking actions based on feelings of romantic love.

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Thanks Miranda for trying to explain the motivations of the main characters. It doesn't feel that confusing for me so it's interesting to have someone else explain it pretty much how I thought it happened.

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Why isn't it this obvious to everyone??

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Why people are behaving a certain way? Observe and think 😉

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I'm so relieved to see that I am not the only one who has trouble following characters' motivations and why they keep changing so quickly. There's too much flip flopping and going in circles which makes the main plot unnecessarily tedious to follow... and don't get me started on the dialogue and the world building lol

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Actual comedies have not made me laugh as much as this piece of nonsense.

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In my case, this has proved a cure for insomnia. I watch it on constant ff, so I can finish it before this hot mess euthanizes me into sleep.

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im so confused, i thought they were gonna duke it out but they were just so fluffy/flirty this episode? while there were some scenes i really enjoyed, this was easily my least favourite episode so far.

i wish this show was a bit more grounded in the mythology of gods and such, but they’re really going for some open ended artistic sorta feel? (not even sure if i’m making much sense rn lol)

omg if there’s something i actually dont like, it’s the weird sound mixing. it’s like ya i know this part is supposed to be funny or touching or romantic but then music cues in and it feels so excessive? it lowkey annoys me xD (that being said i like the new ost song)

the grocery slowmo scene is the worst offender omg why was it edited so weird and dragged out. and then the beach almost-kiss felt like too short? im probably just being annoyingly nitpicky at this point but the editing is annoying me back lol

and the side triangle is weird? i dont hate or love it but its just sort of there?

i feel like there’s something missing? maybe like an overarching goal besides falling in love with each other? i get that it’s the whole plan for both leads but it makes the drama feel a bit one-note at this point?

like the characters dont really do much aside from talking. this drama literally is just two leads and dialogue? they’ll go to work, on the train, the beach, at home and just talk. lol.

if it wasn’t PBY and SIG, i probably would have tuned out ages ago tbh. but their chemistry and visuals keep me wanting more despite all my complaints; i just wished the plot and writing would pick up some slack.

also, does anyone else get distracted by SIG’s eye mole? i keep staring hahaah

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There are a few bars of music that are VERY similar to “I Remember You”s theme music and is a little disorienting for me. Also one of the “hijinks happening” music cues is overused in Korean dramas and stands out for me.

I love this drama overall, though. It sounds odd to call it slice-of-life, but that’s how it feels to me: the intersection of two VERY different lives.

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5 minutes in episode 5 and I couldn't do it. The main leads' scenes are so cringe to me, I can't and won't take it anymore. I am dropping the mains and will watch only the love triangle scenes from now on. I also re-watched High School King of Savvy to cleanse my Kdrama palette. A much much more delightful drama with a fun SIG performance AND of course Lee Soohyuk. It healed my little soul.

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Funny I had the same thought ("cleanse palette with a re-watch of Savvy.") That goes to show that even despite dicey premise, Savvy and its main characters still made a LOT more sense (and was infinitely more enjoyable to watch) than the Doom's contrived, vacillating OTP interactions.

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With how little screen time everyone else had this far, this show has been just Myeol-mang and Dong-Kyung flirting, especially this episode. But I'm not complaining, the show owes a to the chemistry between Park Bo Young and Seo In Guk. Also I wonder if it might just be the subtitles that make it a bit confusing at times or the actual korean dialogue.

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In the beginning I thought it was bad subbing, but she's actually very sarcastic to him at times, making a double take (10 sec rewind) necessary to really get what she's meaning, and there is no way that the subs can convey this. The only way you get it is from her tone.

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I was actually waiting for this post to ask this, because I was wondering if it was the subtitles too.

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I also wonder if it has to do with subtitles because I've been watching the episodes twice (raw & with subs) and for me, the Korean dialogue actually makes sense. I'm not saying I'm fluent in Korean so I could be wrong in this. Or maybe SIG&PBY's chemistry just brings out the conversation that it works.

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I am having issues with subtitles as well. When i watch the episodes when they are released they have different subtitles than when i watch with my sisters later in the week. The words become vague for some reason. Viki need a better subtitle team.

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Don't care what anyone says, I love it. It's sizzling and meaningful.

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True

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Same

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Agree agree

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And filmed beautifully and the actors are wonderful and etc... I agree 100%.

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"Be the first human to love??" Oh my God!! Took him long enough. This episode is definitely turn around MM being eager to know about humans is definitely a good and bad turn. If he learns then when the world's about go boom he'll try to stop it even if he becomes
the sacrifice but also it will help to understand more about human why they fear and hate doom. SK the brother I most definitely didn't think that would some maturity proved me wrong too.
But a side from all the characters we HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SIG AND PBY' s chemistry.. the whole caste has a chemistry that just fits well like a puzzle!! Can't wait for the next episodes 😍

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This show needs better writing and clarity, especially given how much weight the actors are pulling to make this watchable. Park Bo-young and Seo In-guk are absolutely incredible and I could watch them all day. I just want their actual conversations to be good, not vague nonsensical speeches. That really shouldn’t be too much to ask. I shouldn’t be watching a scene and thinking, “wow, these two are perfect, but that is not a real conversation between humans.” Or human and the personification of doom, whatever.

As for the second lead love triangle plot, Kang Tae-oh better have been the greatest boyfriend to ever exist. I can find no other excuse for a grown woman to be pining over a guy from back in high school. It’s so deeply pathetic and stupid that I want Lee Soo-hyuk to come out on top just to squash any hope of that relationship rekindling. And because he’s so freaking pretty.

All that being said, I cannot stop watching this show, or thinking about it - despite the many, many flaws. I’m sure there are objectively better dramas currently airing, but I don’t care. The show is crack-tastic and I am addicted. Is it Monday yet?

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The writing is so terrible but it's not just the writing. The whole thing has an air of earnest profundity while being in fact hugely shallow. It's basically just a bad cohabitation romcom but with two amazing leads who deliver random statements unrelated to anything the other one said or did.

It's in fact so aggressively that it's hilarious.

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So aggressively terrible... where's that edit button?

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It was Doom-ed obviously 😂

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I commented before I read this. Lol, but yes you are correct.

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Team Lee Soo Hyuk!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm loving this drama so much! The chemistry between SIG and PBY is crazy😍.
It's refreshing to have a triangle with the second leads. I'm definitely curious about this Joo-Ik/Ji Na situation and rooting for Joo-Ik

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I'm gonna say it. This drama doesn't make any sense and the writing is not good. Much like descendents of the sun this drama is saved by the insane chemistry of the leads and the entertaining side characters. Most people are confused because the writing isn't good, not because it is cryptic. Lissen, I don't care that it doesn't make sense because I am enjoying it regardless but let's call a spade a spade friends.

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Yeah, there's a lot of beansplaining going on. I enjoy beansplaying in the context of world-building, deep-dive into the themes of the drama that actually raise those themes, and who-dun-its, but when it crosses into the arena of fan fiction, I'm out. After more than 6 years of watching countless hours of K-drama, I came to call a spade -- a spade, when I see it.

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I genuinely don’t care as to whether people like the drama or not (I’m not looking to convert, just explain a different POV) but let’s not swing too heavily in the other direction here and insist that the people who like the show are writing fanfiction.

If you call something a spade and someone else says it could be a spade but it’s also a shovel, they’re not wrong just because you’ve personally never heard of the word “shovel”. I’m enjoying this show because I think it’s engaging and the story interests me, not because I’m hallucinating. We just have different tastes.

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Yes, exactly. I've said many times here for people who like shows to not tell others who don't like these same shows to stop posting and telling why they don't like it. It's nice for them to do it, to share their ideas, and it's fun for those who like them too.

It's not nice when those who like these shows start telling others how "only smart people get it" but the same thing applies to the other side. Please let's not go into "those who like it only do it for the cast" or "they are writing fan fiction".

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I don't know if this comment is to me or bomibeans. I really like the drama, but I believe it is nonsensical and conflicting. I didn't mean to come off as condescending, but I honestly don't see coherency in this drama. My intent was just to say I enjoy the drama despite it's absurdity because the leads and side characters are entertaining.

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Oh my intent too wasn’t to come out as condescending. It was a joke (“beansplaining”) I made in the comments. My comment is not addressed to anyone in particular, but more generally in regard to reactions I witnessed on this blog, on YouTube, and variety of other sites that discuss this drama. 💕

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I’m vacillating between thinking it’s coherent and then not getting it. But I am definitely enjoying it and look forward to it every week.

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Episode 1:
Myeol-mang wants to end the world to escape his fate and Dong-kyung agrees to wish for it in exchange for a pain-free death. Also, people are shitty to Dong-kyung.
Episode 2:
Dong-kyung questions the deal she's just made and gets mad at Myeol-mang (who's a jerk) but only for half the episode before...deciding that it's fine because Myeol-mang has it rough and he does stuff for her, I guess? So she wants to live with him. Also, people are shitty to Dong-kyung.
Episode 3:
Dong-kyung questions the decision she's just made and gets mad at Myeol-mang (who's a jerk), before deciding to love him so he can't doom everything. Myeol-mang is on board but for different reasons. Also, people are shitty to Dong-kyung.
Episode 4:
Dong-kyung tries to go through with her decision this time, but ends up questioning it and gets mad at Myeol-mang (who's suddenly jumped ship from getting her to love him and is again being a jerk) and now wants him to die or at least suffer, before suddenly deciding to save him from getting stabbed. Also, her brother is shitty to Dong-kyung.
Episode 5:
Myeol-mang questions the decision, Dong-kyung has just made, and she explaines basically, that she was ready to sacrifice her life to spare him pain/bleeding, or, wait, no, it was "just because". Myeol-mang is first angry and then back on the idea of making her fall in love with him. Also, people are shitty to Dong-kyung.

Just me trying to make sense of this show.

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1. Doom proposes a deal to Dong Kyung, who has literally just gotten a terminal diagnosis and isn’t sure if Doom offering a deal is a cancer hallucination or a dream.
2. Dong Kyung wants to reconsider the contract she appears to have stumbled into. She collapses from pain and is about to get hit by a truck and Doom allows her to reconsider, but she realizes she wants to live 3 more months if she can so she accepts.
3/4. Somewhere in here she finds out about the additional contract clause. She also asks Doom to live with her because she needs to know he’s keeping up his end of the bargain. She realizes the win/win way through the contract is to love Doom. He thinks she’s nuts but plays along because he’s kind of curious about how she would try to achieve that.
5. Dong Kyung is the type to try and save others, so she blocks a blade for Doom without really thinking much about whether he would need it - literally “just because”. Now Doom is seriously alarmed because it’s not just watching a dog solving a puzzle, he’s starting to have to learn the WHY of what Dong Kyung is doing. And as a result, rather than being a passive observer and dream-scenario-provider, he decides to actually join in on trying to achieve this love thing.

Again, for me? This isn’t disjointed. But I know it is for others.

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Okay, I'm gonna say some things to that, but this is in no way meant as an attack on you:

Dong-kyung doesn't find out about the additional clause in episode 3/4, but in episode 2, pretty early on even. When Myeol-mang then allows her to reconsider with the truck of doom, she yells at him to stop it (which he does), slaps him and storms off. I guess, this is her reaffirming the contract?

She wanted the cohabitation (briefly, before deciding to go back on it, only to then go anlong with it when Myeol-mang does) because Myeol-mang "was nice but then walked away and people who are nice to [her] always leave". At this point, she seems to have forgotten/made peace with the fact, that he is going to doom either her brother or the entire world. Only to then get angry at that later on again.

Myeol-mang playing along with her love-plan rather than supporting it for his own reasons, is up for interpretation and yours just differs from mine.

In episode 4, Dong-kyung has been actively wishing for Myeol-mang to die. He had shot himself and she had not intervened. After witnessing his immortality she had then wished at least suffering on him. That is the very last interaction they had, before she decided her life (which was the whole reason for her entering the contract) was worth sacrificing to spare Myeol-mang momentary discomfort. Also, I agree with your observation that Dong-kyung is the type to save people and I think her brother is her top priority. Myeol-mang is the biggest threat to her brother's safety. Taking a knife for him IMO makes no sense for ther logically, emotionally or for her character.

Feel free to express your own point of view. I just wanted to answer, because I had thoughts on your thoughts.

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I got to applaud to you for writing down point to point details on the inconsistency of this plot. The only thing I want to add is the fact that Dong-kyung not once ever consulting her doctor of pain treatment. If she's that concern about pain, enough to enter a contract with Doom, this would be the logical point of action. Although granted, at least the show has been consistent in being illogical.

To be fair to Dong-Kyung tho, I also would rather hold SIG hands than taking medication 🤪

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Sure, I like discussion - and I'm not trying to convince you either. (I don't really feel attacked unless we veer from "I don't get see it the same way" to "your view is wrong".)

Regarding the truck: he forces her to make the choice, make the deal or die right now. She chooses, but is understandably pissed that he transported her back to the scene of her near-death to force the choice. So: slap. She confirmed the contract by telling him to stop the truck.

Based on episode 3, she hadn't quite put together that the deal doomed her brother either way. She only realized it while writing out the contract.

She didn't intervene when he pointed a gun at his own head, but she intervened when someone tried to stab a second person. For me, that entire scene was more about who SHE is than what he is - she's the type who tries to protect other people. In that split second, that's what she did. (Again, I'm an EMT and haven't seen logic or foresight play a role in most emergency situations. Just instinct, which sometimes makes people do spectacularly dumb things.)

I like the show because people tend to make short-sighted, selfish, weird decisions and Dong Kyung is a bundle of those contradictory decisions. Dramas over-index on noble idiocy, where people take the super-long view and do something exquisitely noble or even sacrifice needlessly. But here's it's the opposite and much more realistic: people tend to hope for the best. Here, even though there's only a sliver of a chance, Dong Kyung instinctively wants to die painlessly and not kill the whole world. She briefly tries the noble idiocy of flinging herself off the roof, but EVEN THEN she sort of knows it won't happen.

And I like Myeol Mang because he's an alien and I generally like "alien learns to live among humans" stuff.

But everyone has difference preferences!

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I'm with you, that dramas tend to over-index on noble idiocy. That's the reason I'm complaining about Dong-kyung throwing herself in front of Myeol-mang. Previously, in the two split second decisions she had to make, she chose her life (or at least three months of it) over the entire world. But now, she was ready to throw that life, that meant more than the world to her, away for seemingly no other reason, than that this is romance drama and we need to have the dainty fl get dramatically stabbed in place of the supernatural ml. Pure k-drama trope, that ruins whatever the drama was going for before.
It's inconsistent. Values don't change in split seconds decisions - it's quite the opposite: They come to the forefront. Either Dong-kyung values her life highly or she doesn't.

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@waterbottle I won't deny that the drama has a lot of defects (though still it has grabbed me to the point that here I am, delurking again after forever), but regarding those two split-second decisions: the knife incident was certainly tropey and a bit forced. But I think there is a difference between desperately trying to avoid immediate death by ToD when your head is exploding from a tumor, and a supernatural stranger is coercing you into a deal you haven't had time to think through, and making an impulsive decision to protect someone you have begun to care about. I agree with Miranda that life-risking impulses have more to do with instinct than values; so, even though I rolled my eyes a little, I can accept the explanation that she did it "because", and move on. It is not a drama for the ages, but I am not as bothered by its defects as some people seem to be. I don't need perfect; I just need to care about the story, and with me they are succeeding. I have definitely seen much worse.

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Yes to all :-) Except I don't see Dong Kyung's near-jump off the roof as noble idiocy: I saw it as a mixture of spite, taking away MM's toy, since his plan was to torment her to make her hate him, and as she also said afterwards, calling his bluff, because he needs her too if he wants to die. It was quite an epic power struggle :-) .

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But if you watch Dong-kyung when he tries to shoot himself, she looks as if she’s horrified at the prospect? Just because she’s too in shock to intervene doesn’t necessarily mean she wanted him to be successful. And just because she wants, on some level, to give back some of the suffering she’s experienced because of him or to have him understand what it’s like to be mortal (something he, ironically, dreams of), doesn’t mean she’s actually capable of doing it. And I think that’s actually the whole point and why I’ve had such a different perspective on these supposed character jumps that, for me, just flesh out these characters as 3-dimentional beings, with a complex set of motivations.

The polarizing nature of this show may have to do with people having different perspectives on whether you can want two things simultaneously, due to a different set of factors. Or, probably more likely, on whether the show is executing that well enough. It is doing that well enough for me, showing how their growing understanding of each other clashes with their lack of ability to completely trust each other. This creates a back-and-forth that should perhaps feel redundent, but doesn’t to me, because it’s dynamic and shifting depending on the new developments in their relationship.

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Ah thank you! I couldnt agree more. The writer is actually a genius. The FL is very relatable. Arent we mostly like that? Sometimes a make decisions out of whim, we meant it but also we didnt. This show is so awesome cant wait for the next episode.

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literally “just because”

Again, exactly. It is who she is.

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Who she is, is all over the place. She's fully okay with being blamed for a man's adultery. But she is also fed up with everything and wants the world to end. Wait, no, that was just a drunken joke. But yeah, no, she actually agrees with the world ending as long as she gets to live painfree. Wait, no, she isn't okay with that after all. But being given the opportunity to walk back on it, she actually doubles down on the choice. But no, she's very angry about that and she hates Myeol-mang. No, wait, she's going to love Myeol-mang. No, she can't, she wants him to die. No, wait, she wants to save him.
And the biggest point: If she's really the kind of person who just wholeheartedly wants to save everybody else, why would she have entered a world-ending contract twice, not even to save a loved one, but just so she could live more comfortably for the measly three months she has left?

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This comment is the first thing that made me laugh today.

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@waterbottle

Maybe I can explain her a bit?
I think she is weird and not as honest as people expect her to be, which maybe is making people here confused about her true intentions? Everybody is so used to those nice FLs that always advertise their feelings every episode. She isn't like that and she doesn't have that famous bf that only exists to explain the main character better.

She is pessimistic, so many terrible things happened to her that it doesn't even surprise her anymore when she gets that sentence but that doesn't mean she can't get angry sometimes.

She felt sorry for the wife because she was pregnant but if you remember the first time she told her to blame her instead of the husband she was being very ironic, it wasn't a selfless act.

She has never really wished to destroy the world and everyone in it while sober, she is only buying time to try to find a way to NOT make that wish and meanwhile she still gets to live like she used to do. The whole plot about loving MM is only about that.

I think it's also easy to imagine why she has conflicting feelings towards MM, he takes away her pain and seems to be trying to end his life but he is also a threat to the world and he's very immature and arrogant, who wouldn't want to kill him sometimes?

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I get actual whiplash from the emotional 180s

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@Lixie
While I see a lot of things differently, I appreciate the explanation.

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@lixie I don't think nice female lead that advertise her feeling in every episodes with famous bf to explain her character is stock standard kdrama occurrence. While they do exist, I hardly think they form audience expectation on how FL should be. Some of popular FL characters from recent dramas are pretty dark (My Mister, Hotel DeLuna, It's okay not to be okay). It certainly not the reason to my anyway on why I feel the FL (an ML) character motivations and actions to be inconsistent and jarring in this drama. I'd blame the poor writing rather than audience misplaced expectation.

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I know some recent FLs have been dark lately but again, they were all very easy to understand and sometimes to like. I guess DK isn't, or maybe I'll get to agree with you on future eps but so far the only strange behavior I remember was her shielding him from the attacker, I wasn't sold on that.

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I think my fundamental problem with the criticism of their trajectories is that it almost seems to be adhering to the notion that these characters should be acting as they themselves expected to before actually being confronted with the aftermath of their choices. While that sort of straitforwardness does certainly happen in life, it isn’t what I’d expect from characters that are simultaneously at odds with each other while finding kinship in the rare moments of vulnerability that their mental games have allowed for.

Take him warming up to the idea that she could possibly love him if he truly let her this episode. Given that this is something that he encouraged when he either didn’t think it was possible or that he’d even care if she could, when it became apparent that wasn’t the case, it makes sense that his behavior would first go through regression that subsequently tests her ability to love him, while also eventually revealing his self-loathing to her, the very thing that has him wanting to end all of existence. The idea that she would respond to these progressions/regressions dynamically is just intuitive to me.

Btw, thanks for actually going into why you haven’t liked the writing because it actually gives me the chance to see why I feel differently rather than just getting told the writing is definitely horrible and to just accept it, which seems to be the tune of some comments here. That isn’t to say that there is anything wrong with those comments, as we all need to find our own outlet for dealing with our feelings for the show, but it becomes harder to compare perspectives so I definitely appreciate comment threads like this one.

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@leetennant Re whiplash from the emotional 360s...

Should I take that to mean you are at least/fully emotionally engaged?

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No not even vaguely @hebang
I'm afraid the whole thing is too shallow for that.

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I had the same discomfort with her inconsistency but then I realized that is normal for most people in real life and I’m just not used to seeing that in dramas. The scene that really showed DK’s character is her getting mad and throwing all her laundry all over the floor but then picking it up and folding it carefully. This is a person caught between wanting to run away from it all and doing the right thing. If seen through that lens her actions make sense to me.

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The problem isn't her inconsistency @wonid2017.

It's that there are no plot or character transition points or bridges between the emotional changes. This goes back to just how badly written it is. If they want an emotional 180 to land it needs to be either sufficiently telegraphed or explained later. They do neither. They just move on to the next random action without leading into it or circling back around to explain it. Our female lead in particular is just in whatever emotional space the writer needs her to be at any point in time without taking us on any journey of how she got there or why. It means the show is just a series of disconnected, disjointed and self-contained scenes that don't connect to each other emotionally.

Since the show has basically no plot and is supposed to be entirely about this emotional journey, then it's a model exemplar of bad writing.

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“ is supposed to be entirely about this emotional journey “

I don’t know that is the point of this drama, because, as you said, there is no emotional continuity in the story. The emotional journey you describe, I think, would be a different drama.

What is it about? I have no idea... the road to godhood, maybe, depending on how it ends?
1.They both die.
2. They both live as deities.
3. They both live as humans.
4. MM dies and DK lives
5. DK dies, and MM lives.

The opening credits ends with the two of them holding hands in a colorful garden, so - if I that seriously - it’s 2 or 3. 3 would make me gag... so it’s 2?

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But why do they keep saying she'll survive? I thought her whole contract was just to die pain-free, but now she's talking about being unable to live happily without him. T_T - SO CONFUSED.

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I actually googled this. (Seriously, Jance?!) Apparently the person she loves most dies in her place if she breaks the contract - which I don’t remember being explained in the drama hahahahahaha

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Yeh, the story is entirely coherent for me too. A lot more so than 'Sell Your Haunted House' which people can't get enough of. And I'm having no trouble at all following the dialog. I think its telling that in the dream sequence they reviewed the standard K-drama tropes and rejected them.

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This episode was nothing but a parade of bad tropes, the last thing they've done is 'reject' them.

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What I'm trying to day is: this entire show is:
- Dong-kyung making some kind of decision, before going back on it
- Don-kyung getting mad at Myeol-mang, but going back to him
- Myeol-mang bitching about humans because they are jerks
- people proving him right by being jerks to Dong-kyung

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How can this all suddenly make sense after reading the recap? Am.I just really dumb or are you just that good, @quirkycase?

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I figured it out: This premise absolutely could have worked to create a unique, interesting plot - but not with the character of Dong-kyung.
Like, the pitch for this was: "Let's make a show about a woman, who lives a shitty life and is so fed up with it that she dooms everyone on earth to die in exchange for a painless death and last three months of her life."
And someone said: "Oh yeah, and let's make a point of having her be the most self-sacrifing person ever, who puts everybody else's needs before her own."
And no-one realized that these two didn't mesh.

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Or literally ONLY loves her brother. Then there'd be stakes.

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don't care what ya'all say. i love it and i am going to enjoy every minute of it!

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The dialogue has improved — I actually understood what was happening. The last scene’s “supernova” dialogue was probably the best in all 5 episodes, no annoyance, irritation, drama-couple-nonsense or comeuppance between the two…well, until I glimpsed the dialogue’s continuation in episode 6, anyway. There were still quite a few exchanges that were monologue-ey, meandering and reminiscing. At 59.34 minutes, minus 5 minutes of “previously on episode”, it felt like a drag. Nothing much happens of substance really. Some “scenes” seemed to exist just to illustrate a point (“In this scene, MM learns to observe humans, see!” or “In this scene, MM cares about DK by ganging up on a rude teenage writer, see!”) instead of moving a plot along, and although this is a-ok in a rom-com, the situations feel contrived. (Also, he’s not supposed to hear her thoughts, but can hear her asking for a kiss?)

There’s this weird “funny” sound track that supposed to add levity to the “scene” but feels disjointed to the comedic intensity of the underlying situation. It’s like PD and editors were confused (as we are confused) with — are we shooting a fantasy rom-com or an angsty melodrama?

Lee So Hyuk scenes are fascinating. I’m so much more invested in that “side” triangle than our leads atm. His big mysterious eyes convey intensity and incredulity so well. The dialogue between him and Jina is on fire! (See, no hope is lost with this drama’s writer!)

And so my hate-watching continues, and I apologize.

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Don't apologize kk.
I like the drama but the posts explaining why some think it's crazy confusing are also fun.

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That’s one of the fun parts of being on Drama Beans!

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Lol. I’m totally hate watching this too! And watch just enough to have a discussion here about everything that made no sense

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I guess you don't need to apologize for your opinion, because for those who think this drama is not good, you are one of a handful who can give out a good reason to explain why, and I have to admit sometimes I feel boring, because the dialogue is kind of flat, or not inspire, or not like something a human being should be saying.

This drama should be a good chance to talk about purpose of life, we have 2 characters (Myeol-mang and Dong-Kyung) who lost purpose in their own life, and ruining this chance to talk about this is really a problem.

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I have to stress, however, @bomibeans, that I have actually no strong feeling on this drama, partly because this drama is for me to rest my brain, I guess (I have to watch Law School the second time to get all the clue, so my brain power is precious, haha ...)?

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Is there only single Doom in the world? What exactly is his job specification? He can bring doom to animate (people) and inanimate things (traditions). Does he deal with all people or he chooses few unlucky ones?
If he is the Doom, he is quite slacking off. Should he not be in war-zone or courts where they are providing death sentence or in fields with locust infestation?
Why Joo-ik is obsessed with Ji-na? Ji-na and Hyun-gyu at least have some common past but Joo-ik just has one single moment with Ji-na in past.
What was the point of young writer’s character?

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Omg. You perfectly described the many awesome missed opportunities to expand on the world of Doom, and I feel sad and full of regrets. So much more could have beeen built upon around the “job” of MM, but show doesn’t go there. 😩 To paraphrase one beanie, it’s just a bad cohabition rom-com masquerading as something more profound and high-minded fantasy but coming across as an empty parody of the k dramas we all love (even with all its k-tropes.) As a long-time viewer of the Kdramas, it upsets my k-honed sensibilities. One thing to expect a bad rom-com (I’ve sit through quite a few of them without complaining). Another thing to offend the viewer with confusion and pretenses.

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As about why there is only a single Doom in the world is like asking why there is usually only that one cafe in Seoul that everyone is drawn to.

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I have been asking to see his full Job Description for a while now...

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Yes! This is one thing Goblin got so right: watching the Grim Reapers go about their daily work. We saw the specifics of their role, their rules and limitations, and it all fit in perfectly with the plot. The Goblin didn't have as specific a "job," but we also saw him using his powers toward specific ends (other than showing up with umbrellas).

We've never actually seen Doom being Doom: other than not-dooming the murderer (which was really dooming him), he hasn't actively chosen to end anyone's life or, you know, fiddle with the brakes on one of his Trucks (Does he have a whole fleet of them, I wonder?). Bad stuff randomly happens around him but he doesn't seem to be doing it on purpose.

In the last scene where he's supposedly going "to work," he's just sitting there watching (or is the scene not finished? I haven't watched Ep 6 yet).

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(I mean, unless you count the TOD he made hurtle toward her to force her to accept the contract, and that seemed more like extortion than actual doom.)

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The thing that makes me most upset about this show is the very notion of Kang Tae-oh casted in a drama without the slightest idea of getting the girl. If the whole setup for his character isn't going to change, I'm going to be really upset.

I actually find the dialogue and the many emotional directions of Dong-kyung to be ambiguous in a most natural way. Un-decisiveness, although a not very attractive trait, is not something foreign to people experiencing heavy stress, which you can't argue DK isn't. I really have to applaud Park Bo-young, her intonation and micro expressions are superb.

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It seems the opinion about this show is so extreme, either very good or very bad. For me, however, I don't have too many strong feeling. K-dramas have so many stories about afterlife. Doom at Your Service is the most gloomy one, because until this week episodes, we probably don't know what the afterlife looks like after death, which Goblin or Hotel del Luna have at least some hints.

However, is it totally hopeless after death in this drama? Not quite. Dong-kyung did mention, in several occasions, life comes out of doom (Supernova she mentioned in the end of this episode, is one of those examples). But Goddess in this drama may probably more heartless then we think (what's happening in the end of next episode clearly shown that).

I do have some very wild theories in mind, though. Dong-Kyung seems especially unlucky compares to other people in this story, does she have some role in this world just like Myeol-mang? In an interesting interview, Seo In-guk said, in character, that Myeol-mang loves Park Hyo-shin's song Yearning, which Korean name "동경" is exactly "Dong Kyeong"--This is a double word play, since it sounds like Dong-kyung, as well in reality, the actress Park Bo-young is a fan of Park Hyo-shin.

Then I go even further: is Myeol-mang yearning for something? (1 of 2)

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It is because, in the end of this episode, Myeol-mang says that "Being unable to see the things you used to see daily is a form of death, too." So, first of all, Myeol-mang doesn't only represent Doom, but also any Unknown, and secondly, if Myeol-mang is Doom, then who is [Re-]birth? Is it actually Dong-kyung? Dong-kyung's miserable life seems not only because her whole life being accompanied by Myeol-mang: she herself must have represented something--I guess this is why they are a pair.

Just a wild guess, so sorry if I think too much. (2 of 2)

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Not thinking too much, just thinking things through systematically.

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Thanks for your reaction, @owl22. And by the way, my thought do put Episode 6 in mind as well, although I didn't discuss it deeply (afterall, no spoiler, right?)

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Hmm interesting! I think I might see a bit of where you're going with this (especially with the ending of ep 6, but I don't want to spoil)...they might be two sides of a cosmic cycle? He's always been yearning for what he himself doesn't know (love, compassion, the light to his darkness...Dong-kyung), and this yearning is somehow necessary for cosmic balance? And that Dong-kyung literally represents re-birth after death...

Haha I might be completely off so this might not make any sense, and I know we can't discuss much here to do with ep. 6. I have a different theory of my own, but you've definitely given me another theory to consider so I'm excited to see anything you have to add to it in later recaps! :)

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Let's talk about it on Ep. 6 Recap, @tiffanyyep, looking forward to see what your theory is.

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Half-hearted Life Under A Black Cloud.

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Some of the snarky and sarcastic comments here are more entertaining than the show itself. I really really really want to like it but nothing made sense and all the episodes are repetitive with not a lot happening. I watched episode 5 and thought I was watching ep 4 again.

Also Park Bo young is a better actress than this; right? why is it all of her reactions the same wide eye shocked look? She kept being surprised with what Doom can do after knowing he’s a supernatural being....and didn’t she get surprised by how nice his house is twice? This show is making me think that I have dejavu

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And whenever she was supposed to be in unbearable pain caused by a terminal inoperable pain tumor that made her collapse in front of a truck and her door, it seemed like she was just breathing heavily...
Am I the only one who’s not getting her “acting”

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From what I know of it, those symptoms are a hideous headache and nausea. I’m not sure what else you would do other than grit your teeth and breathe through it; in fact that’s exactly what I do to get through migraines and motion sickness. Don’t move, don’t touch me, don’t make noise - just leave me to be perfectly still and as free of stimuli as possible until this passes.

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"Dong-kyung answers his question from earlier about why her life is special enough that she should survive. There is no reason – it just is. The same is true now. There’s no reason for why she tried to save him. It just happened by instinct." @quirkycase

I thought this was lovely and that this was the underlying idea of the episode - we don't always have or need a reason for things. Or more precisely, that we don't always have or need a reason for compassion and humanity. DK's act of protecting him was a human instinct; she sees him as someone who can get hurt, like any other. This seemed like some sort of turning point in MM realizing that humans are worthy of his compassion because he's noticing that they are capable of it themselves. He just didn't SEE it before because he hasn't let himself really get to know all of humanity (both the good and bad); he's been trying to protect himself from pain by decidedly NOT think they're even worthy of truly understanding, and in not understanding them, he's only been exposing himself to human ugliness (like a confirmation bias).

But now, especially with all the staring at DK, he's starting to see it (literally). And most interestingly, he's seeing DK's compassion for himself. He is human Doom incarnate. Yet she is the first human to truly see him, the real him (small spoiler from ep. 6)...and her response? Compassion.

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There was a moment in the episode when she said that she observes him trying to figure him out all the time. So having observed him, she understands that just because he's alive doesn't mean he isn't hurting (a human experience) - she recognizes that he feels pain even though his immortality makes it seem insignificant.

Similarly, it seems like MM is being taught a lesson: just because human life is fleeting, doesn't mean that their suffering, or their life in general, is insignificant or unworthy of compassion.

I think I said the word "compassion" about 10x haha, but it seems like this is definitely one of the main themes in the show!

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Big-picture wise, I'm not sure if the drama makes sense and I suspect it will ultimately be less than the sum of its parts. I don't think it's "so terrible it's good drama" or a "it's terrible, but I love it", but more of a "It needs the cracks to be filled in and some serious polish, but I still love it" I love the individual scenes and moments!! There is a lot of great chemistry, quite a few of those heart-fluttering moments, and the drama presents an off-kilter atmosphere that makes me want to see what's around the corner. I loved the shot of the almost kiss at the beach. There was some funky camerawork when MM pulled away and stood up. And I loved the OST song by TXT

The drama feels like it taps into my inner teenager with the daydreams of being the special one in the eyes of a handsome supernatural being. Though the cynical part of me would always be like "too. much. baggage."

I'm curious as to how Joo-Ik could tell Ji-na got her hair done! Her hair has been looking amazing for the last 5 episodes, including the scene when he first met her again. That was more unbelievable than the manifestation of Doom walking about Seoul.

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Also loved the Nam Da-reum cameo. He's growing up so fast! Even Doom gets speechless in the face of a rude teenager talking back.

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i don’t think it’s bad writing. it’s certainly confusing writing, but i think what makes it so confusing is because humans thoughts, actions, emotions are confusing. sometimes i don’t even get why i feel the way i do sometimes. and that’s what the drama articulates. that push and pull, that wanting to give in to your desires but also wanting to stay practical and logical - i feel like we can’t understand the motivations of these characters because they’re so complex in and of themselves. and for me at least i don’t seek to fully understand them, because ultimately at the end of the day the show had achieved its purpose in entertaining me through these interactions, not matter if they’re fully logical or whether i can interpret it.

and at the end of the day too despite all its confusion the show still manages to tug my heart strings regarding the things that matter most, why we live, why we want to live, why we love, who we love... in that way i think the show is extremely meaningful and thought-provoking. the supernova and the tradition scene was one of the most, for me, emotional scenes in kdrama because it was so simple and genuine. you see many other scenes like these but they don’t truly match up to the emotional power this scene packs because they try too hard to elicit some response. but this scene was so simple in MM acknowledging how some traditions die and the impermanence of our lives but DK nothing that there may be still importance despite the impermanence. it’s a short dialogue but packs an emotional punch.

and the actors. SIG. that’s all I have to say. he’s absolutely fantastic here. he’s wonderful. him and PBY are just geniuses. they truly breathe life into this whole drama.

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I have to un-lurk because I'm enjoying the conversation around this show so much. I'm firmly in the camp of "I would watch SIG watching paint dry because he would make it compelling," but after this episode I'm leaning more toward "this isn't just confusing because they haven't finished explaining things: it's just confusing." (What's the word they translate as "just": kunyang?)

I'm still enjoying the show, loving the chemistry; intrigued by the potential theme of balance, destruction being necessary for creation, death necessary for life; hoping that they will actually explore the nature of love when it's removed from all the tropes; wondering if that's what the second lead triangle is supposed to be about; (hoping there's a point to the second lead triangle!)

I love all the beansplaining! Thank you for greatly increasing my understanding of and enjoyment of the show!

Was anyone else confused by how a man getting married is no longer able to see what he used to see? And how that is sad? Don't know if that's something that didn't come through the translation, or if it gets explained in Ep 6?

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