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Doom at Your Service: Episode 7

It’s always one step forward, two steps back for our couple. After sharing a moment together, our gloomy lead vanishes without a trace, leaving our desperate heroine with nowhere to search. We get a lot of sad eyes and brooding this hour as both of our leads feel lost and battered by fate. Meanwhile, our heroine’s illness becomes a little more public, and those around her grapple with how to deal with the news.

 
EPISODE 7

After Myeol-mang disappears, Dong-kyung runs home and is dismayed to find her apartment entirely her own again. The next day, she zones out at work and only snaps out of it when Ye-ji mentions that the recently returned CEO Park looks different.

Hoping Myeol-mang is pulling one of his masquerades, Dong-kyung is disappointed to see CEO Park has truly returned. Her mood brightens a little when the bratty writer Young makes a surprise visit and declares he’ll finish his story. He’s been having disturbing dreams where a man orders him to finish writing and makes him die in various ways.

Meanwhile, Myeol-mang stands atop a building and wonders where he is. He’s suddenly transported to 2014 where he sees Dong-kyung running to catch a bus. The goddess shows up and explains this is a glimpse into Dong-kyung’s past, so she can’t see or hear him.

The tire blows out on Dong-kyung’s bus, making her late for her interview. Despite her pleas for understanding, they turn her away. The goddess calls her pitiful and blames Myeol-mang for the blown tire since all destruction is linked to him.

Next, the goddess takes him back even further to high school when Dong-kyung’s lunch box spilled in her backpack. Even small misfortunes like this are attributable to Myeol-mang, but the goddess reminds him of his importance. “It’s not your fault. Your existence is essential to this world.”

Myeol-mang then sees Dong-kyung sitting on the beach, pained to remember Dong-kyung’s words that she did that when she felt like crying. As he steps toward her, the scene switches to when Dong-kyung received the phone call about her parents’ accident. Stroking little Sun-kyung’s head, the goddess cruelly reiterates that Myeol-mang bears responsibility for all that disappears.

“Stop!” Myeol-mang yells. He opens his eyes, and he’s back in the goddess’s hospital room. As he glares, objects break and the windows explode. The goddess puts everything right and, like a mother indulging her child, asks if he’s done being mad.

After all the pain he’s caused Dong-kyung throughout her life, he wants to receive her love and disappear? “You dream big.” The goddess deals the final blow by musing that Myeol-mang must’ve been doing something the day the tumor began to grow in Dong-kyung’s brain.

Dong-kyung stands on the subway platform and resigns herself to the idea that anyone who’s nice to her will inevitably disappear. What should she do now? She has a new understanding of the loneliness Myeol-mang must experience while watching everything disappear and being unable to do anything.

When she spots Myeol-mang standing on the opposite platform, Dong-kyung goes running. Her vision begins to blur, and she struggles to make it up the stairs. Myeol-mang grabs her hand as she starts to collapse.

In the car, Dong-kyung asks where he’s been. Did he run away? Myeol-mang says he was “chased out” but doesn’t explain what happened. Dong-kyung snaps at him for his angry silence – she’s the one who deserve to be angry.

Myeol-mang clarifies that he isn’t angry at her but himself for “forgetting everything.” His cryptic answers annoy her as does the fact that he can disappear and give her no way to look for him. Dong-kyung wants to know where his house is so she has somewhere to look the next time he vanishes.

He complies and takes her to the physical location of his house which isn’t in as remote a location as she expected. Myeol-mang’s dour mood is palpable as he states that Dong-kyung won’t be able to find him next time, even if she comes here.

Myeol-mang tells her he misjudged the situation. She shouldn’t love him, and he can’t fulfill her wish to be loved either. He wants to stop living together. Dong-kyung takes a step forward and is suddenly alone in her living room.

Elsewhere, Sun-kyung catches Hyun-kyu staring at a photo of Ji-na. They start talking about first loves, and Sun-kyung pesters him into sharing how he and Ji-na broke up. In a flashback, Hyun-kyu whines at Joo-ik to do it for him.

He blames Joo-ik for feeding him the rice cakes that gave him indigestion and caused him to miss the college entrance exam. Joo-ik isn’t sympathetic since the real issue is that Hyun-kyu impulsively decided to study abroad because his friends were teasing him for not being able to go to university.

To shut him up, Joo-ik starts texting Ji-na while Hyun-kyu looks over his shoulder. Hyun-kyu doesn’t want to meet with her but vows to deal with this properly later. Ji-na sends a text asking if they are breaking up; she’ll take no response as a yes. Hyun-kyu didn’t respond.

Sun-kyung scolds him for his terrible handling of the situation and asks why he did that. Hyun-kyu claims he liked her so much that he was embarrassed of himself. Sun-kyung shares that someone he knows was dumped by text and didn’t let it go for years, vowing to kill the man. Completely unsolicited, Sun-kyung generously proclaims that he’ll be Hyun-kyu’s dating counselor.

Joo-ik arrives home to find Sun-kyung in his living room. Sun-kyung recognizes Joo-ik from the café and excitedly guesses that he’s a colleague of his sister’s. Joo-ik is dismayed to realized Sun-kyung is Dong-kyung’s little brother and makes him promise to keep where he lives a secret.

Over drinks, Sun-kyung offers up his dating wisdom that men are basically all the same but every woman is unique. Hyun-kyu wants an easy answer for how to figure out how a woman operates in a relationship, but Sun-kyung and Joo-ik argue it’s not that simple.

Sun-kyung sighs that life is hard and promises to share his own woes with Hyun-kyu once they’re closer. He chides Hyun-kyu for opening up so easily to a stranger. Once he leaves, Hyun-kyu and Joo-ik talk about how cute he is. Joo-ik says he’s like the neighborhood mutt.

Joo-ik thinks Sun-kyung resembles Hyun-kyu in his younger days, calling them both good kids who do their work well. Now that Hyun-kyu has an apprentice, Joo-ik is ready to push him out of the nest, but Hyun-kyu insists he’ll stick with Joo-ik until he dies.

Hyun-kyu grows serious and shares that Ji-na won’t eat rice cakes anymore. He’s the one who got sick from them, but she’s the one affected. He says that he couldn’t give an answer when Ji-na asked why he’d come back. Joo-ik gets a text from Ji-na, asking him to come help her write, but he replies he can’t go.

Reading the text, Ji-na is reminded of the day she and Joo-ik kissed. She’d been sitting on the stoop to his and Hyun-kyu’s building in the rain, blocking the entrance. He’d given her his umbrella, asking if she really likes Hyun-kyu that much.

The whole neighborhood knows who she’s waiting for, but it’s useless. Hyun-kyu has already left for Japan. Ji-na doesn’t know where else to wait and mourns all the things they didn’t get to do. They never even kissed. Joo-ik watches her cry and leans down to kiss her. (Yeah, that’ll solve it.)

The following day, Dong-kyung gets the bad news that one of her writers is quitting. The woman has ovarian cancer. She isn’t looking for comfort but wanted to tell Dong-kyung directly. She encourages Dong-kyung to live a little recklessly and not worry about what others think.

Dong-kyung is distracted throughout their company dinner that night. She struggles to control her anger when the sleazy writer starts gossiping about the writer with ovarian cancer. He makes the mistake of addressing Dong-kyung directly who is in no mood to accommodate him.

After Dong-kyung drops any politeness and lets him have it, he makes sexist comments about how she won’t be able to get married with her attitude. She informs him it doesn’t matter. “I’ll die in three months from cancer.” Dong-kyung gets up and walks out, leaving everyone stunned.

When Dong-kyung reaches the crosswalk where she first agreed on the deal with Myeol-mang, she thinks back to him telling her to call him if she’s scared to walk across. Out loud, she says she’s afraid to cross the street, but Myeol-mang doesn’t appear.

Next, she tries dangling a foot over her roof and threatening to jump, but that doesn’t work either. It’s almost midnight by the time she enters her apartment. She curses Myeol-mang and falls asleep on her floor.

Myeol-mang quietly arrives to recharge the bracelet and then goes to a desolate spot to brood alone. In the morning, Dong-kyung wakes on the floor with a pillow under her head and realizes Myeol-mang was there. Her frustration overcomes her sense of self-preservation, and she rips the red bracelet off her wrist.

Ji-na frantically tries calling Dong-kyung after hearing about her announcement at the company dinner. She rushes into the office, but Dong-kyung isn’t there. Ji-na breaks down sobbing, so Joo-ik escorts her out into the stairwell to pull herself together.

She now realizes why Dong-kyung asked about having 100 days to live and regrets jokingly asking Dong-kyung if she’s dying. Joo-ik advises her to stop focusing on the past and instead focus on helping Dong-kyung.

Ji-na is such a mess that Joo-ik offers to drive her home. When they turn a corner and almost bump into Hyun-kyu, Joo-ik quickly spins Ji-na around.

Meanwhile, Dong-kyung is rushed into the hospital with a sobbing Sun-kyung by her side. Doctor Jung assures him this is a normal symptom due to cranial pressure. While Sun-kyung waits for Dong-kyung to regain consciousness, their aunt calls.

Myeol-mang is still getting his brood on at his desolate spot. The goddess joins him and encourages him to stand firm in his decision to stay away from Dong-kyung. He shouldn’t see her, even if she’s in danger. But can he really live like that?

Myeol-mang doesn’t bother answering as he hops up and walks away. The goddess muses that children must rebel against their parents to grow, and love requires a broken heart to be set ablaze.

Dong-kyung wakes in the hospital minutes before midnight. She slips past the sleeping Sun-kyung and roams the halls, coming face-to-face with Myeol-mang. Dong-kyung knew he’d show up and calls him out for hiding.

As Myeol-mang walks toward her, she says that she knows him now, so he can’t hide from her. Dong-kyung reminds him that he can’t leave until he grants her wish. The moment he reaches her, Myeol-mang pulls her into a tight hug.

Dong-kyung muses on the misfortunes in her life but also the people who have been there for her. We see the moments that Ji-na, Sun-kyung, and her aunt Soo-ja were waiting for her, brining joy amidst her sorrow.

And now there’s Myeol-mang. Dong-kyung smiles and hugs Myeol-mang back. “Sometimes, the faces of misfortune and fortune are the same.”

 
COMMENTS

I wasn’t expecting the angsty separation to happen before we’ve even reached the halfway point. I really wish the romance had been built up better. The setup is there, and they have great chemistry, but the development has been strangely rushed. Judging from the first few episodes, I thought we were in for a more slow-burn type of romance. The unique nature of their connection and the obstacles they face are a bit more dire than usual, and I was looking forward to watching them navigate those complexities. Instead, they went from enemies to lovers like a switch was flipped. Hopefully, we’ll get to explore their connection more deeply as we go; it’d be a missed opportunity not to take full advantage of the interesting backdrop of their relationship.

While I love Dong-kyung as a character, one thing didn’t sit well with me. I can understand her ripping off her bracelet in frustration, not wanting to be dependent on Myeol-mang who just up and left. But the implication seemed more that she pulled off the bracelet in a desperate attempt to make him come back. If that’s the case, girl, no. Holding your own well-being hostage to get someone else’s attention or to force them to stay with you is never okay. I’d say Dong-kyung grossly misinterpreted what that nice writer lady meant by living a little recklessly. I get that Dong-kyung feels like she has nothing to lose because she’s dying, but this is not a healthy approach. Even beyond that, I just felt such a disconnect from Dong-kyung’s sudden, extreme attachment to Myeol-mang that her behavior seemed out of place.

On another note, what is the goddess’s game plan here? All that talk of resetting and Myeol-mang’s faulty programming made me assume she was definitively against his and Dong-kyung’s relationship. And her cruel but fairly effective tactic of guilting Myeol-mang into leaving Dong-kyung by claiming he’d ruined her entire life supported this view. So why did she essentially send him running back to Dong-kyung when he was moping at the lake of desolation? What was the point of showing him Dong-kyung’s past, then? The goddess is supposed to be omniscient, so maybe she knew her first plan wouldn’t work and has moved onto a new plan.

We delved into our side characters and their messy relationships a little more today. Hyun-kyu has some major avoidance issues. I can cut him a little slack (but not much) for ghosting Ji-na when they were teens, but he’s still engaging in the same behavior! Rather than being an adult and talking things out with Ji-na when they reconnected, he again chose to selfishly stay silent. He needs to learn to take responsibility and own up to his actions. He and Sun-kyung really are similar. Maybe Sun-kyung’s newfound sense of responsibility and maturity will rub off on Hyun-kyu.

I have to say, even after almost a decade of drama watching, I still don’t get the obsession with first loves. I know it’s supposed to be romantic, but I just get irritated that grown adults haven’t moved on from their childhood crushes. It does seem like the drama is going the way of paring Ji-na and Joo-ik as opposed to having Ji-na and Hyun-kyu get back together, although I wouldn’t be surprised if Ji-na is Joo-ik’s “first love” too. I really like Joo-ik as a character, but I’m not a fan of how he’s handling everything with Ji-na. On his first meeting with her, he kissed her out of the blue like it was a consolation prize, which was incredibly weird. And now he’s keeping his working relationship with her a secret. There’s no way that isn’t going to backfire. I don’t think he’s obligated to disclose it to Hyun-kyu, since who he works with isn’t Hyun-kyu’s business, but actively hiding it seems like a bad idea. Given that they live together and work in the same building, it’s bound to come out sooner or later. Joo-ik clearly cares about Hyun-kyu, and intentionally keeping him in the dark is just going to end with everyone hurt.

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I love the actors, but I have no idea why the characters do what they do. I want to love this, but I really don't.

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+ 1 on this.
That is my main dilemma with this show.
I WANT to love "Doom At Your Service" -- the same way I adored "Goblin" and many other fantasy-romance shows out there -- but the Writers are making it impossible.

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+ 1
“I’m so heartbroken you’re avoiding me although my love for you is going to kill you...” / “Hooray you came back! Now I can love you forever - until you die in my place...”
What happened to her game plan of loving evil people?

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I really want to love this show, but the truly awful writing is making it soooo hard.

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This is emotional abuse what God is doing incessantly reminding Myul-mang of all the misfortunes he's caused. I loved the reveal that on Dong-kyung's bad days, her best friend and brother were waiting for her, and I cried when her aunt drove up at the beach because Dong-kyung was there because she wanted to cry. If only Myul-mang had seen them in her past. She has the best people in her life. When Myul-mang called out Dong-kyung's name and hugged her, he's now one of her people too.

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I replayed that ending scene/flashback half a dozen times. It was beautiful! It was probably my favorite scene out of the entire drama so far.

The goddess is manipulative and terrible. She only showed Myeol-mang the bad part. Like those scenes of characters overhearing part of a conversation.

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God is pushing him to understand his true nature. It’s very similar to what Dong Kyung is doing, though DK’s version is a pull - God’s is a push.

Myul Mang has somehow internalized that his nature (harbinger of doom) is actually HIM, to the point that he’s created this whole Grim Reaper persona to cope. DK, as a subject of his doom-bringing, is telling him she knows it’s not his intents, it’s just life and is in a position to absolve him for her death. Meanwhile God is doing the tough-love bit, essentially mirroring back at him the way he sees himself - because if he really is incapable of seeing himself as anything but misery, then this isn’t going to work. I think she’s looking for him to stop saying “I’m a terrible force in all scenarios and should be avoided” and instead push back with “I didn’t ask for any of that, it’s my job and it happens whether I want to or not, there is more to me than doom”.

But he has to make that statement and mean it, not kind of meander into watering down all the bits of his self-hatred until he’s acceptable enough. He’d always be borderline if she let him take that passive route. He has to proactively define himself and own it.

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I've enjoyed this from the beginning. I've been puzzled by people's reactions so I went back to the beginning and watched all the scenes between Tak Dong-kyung and Myul Mang and almost all of the scenes with the goddess. I'm a true drama tragic because I took 3,000 words of notes so that I could map the moves in their relationship, the dilemma that both of them face, their attempts to wriggle out of their grim fate, the way they have tried to use each other to escape, and their growing attachment to each other. IMO the characters have been consistent and the build-up of the romance has been the most sizzling and convincing of any that I've seen recently. A turning point took place when she unthinkingly blocked the knife and he couldn't get over the fact that anyone would do that "just because", especially when all he heard and saw were selfish, self-absorbed, self-pitying people everywhere he turned. Much of the following episode is about him discovering other human qualities such as compassion and sacrifice without regard for the consequences. The goddess is hardest to understand. IMO she has wanted to do anything to hold on to him, but it seems she has pivoted. I think it’s more obvious in the next episode. She seems cold and cruel at this point, and his sudden absence didn’t make total sense to me until episode 8.

The key for me in understanding the drama is to ask myself the following questions, which are based on the real life experience of seeing someone go through a similar diagnosis, so it all seems very real to me. The fantasy stuff turns a horrible inescapable nightmare into something beautiful. To be able to hold onto Doom and to love and be loved at the end seems so paradoxical but maybe that’s the only thing a person can do?

This is how I begin my reinvestigation of DAYS: What happens if we are told we are dying from a terminal illness – do we bargain in our attempt to avoid death? What would happen if our wish to live was within our reach provided we made a sacrifice? Would we try to outwit death? Would we try to defy death? Would we get to the point where we tried to embrace death, but in spite of our best efforts found it impossible to fall in love with death? Would we believe it, if death seemed to be in love with us? Could we ever get to the point where we fell in love with death?

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Truth be told my friend, if you need 3000 words to map out everything to grasp the meaning of the drama, the there is something very very wrong with it.

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6 episodes × 500 words =3000
doesn't seem excessive. It wasn't to grasp the meaning BTW, but as I wrote above.

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Sorry to say that, @cantbothertologin, if you don't even bother to use 3,000 words to explain the meaning of the drama, there is nothing wrong to the drama, but you are being too lazy.

(Login is another issue: that would result you don't get notification from our reply, that means you have no intention to communication and understand: there is still nothing wrong to the drama, but you are being too lazy).

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I can't believe this comment. Are fans of this show so delusional? In what world is writing 3000 words to explain a drama normal and not doing so lazy? It's seriously eye-opening how you guys are trying to defend this show.

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@cantbothertologin

On last week’s Currently Watching thread, a beanie mentioned writing a 4,000 word paper on everything wrong with the show. So, by your logic, does being able to write that many words against the show mean they must be reaching and the show must actually be great? Or does it suddenly conveniently mean, in that instance, that there must definitely be something wrong with the show? Your logic doesn’t seem to work both ways.

My view? Both these beanies probably had valid reasons for why their perspectives differed and for why this show inspired so many words from them. I don’t think anyone deserves to insinuate that either of them is delusional or stupid for loving it or hating it. Just keep your criticism to the drama itself and leave those with other perspectives alone if you can’t handle engaging with them in a mature fashion. I might have criticism for Emperor Titus’s response to your behaviour, but you did intitiate this ridiculousness by targeting someone “deconstructing dramas” so to speak, which is what this site was created for.

I’m pretty neutral on this drama, but I have noticed a lot of comments from those disliking the show subtly putting down those who like it, much more than the other way around, tbh. And it just hasn’t sat well with me. So you have to keep in mind that these comments are getting tiresome for them and you did engage in putting down a viewpoint just because someone wrote a lot about it...in the comment section for the recap of the drama, no less.

Unless the majority of DB would really rather exist inside an echo chamber, than I’m not really sure why we’re suddenly discouraging discourse and different perspectives on here. It’s honestly no different than Mike, below, condescending to quirkycase for “struggling to understand the drama” (which is also not cool!). You both just end up looking immature and pretentious to those of us in the middle on this, I assure you.

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In the first case, 3000 words of analysis was to help one map out the relationships, motivations and to enjoy the show. I do not have any context on the second comment you brought up, but if a 4000-word essay is necessary for someone to dislike the show, if it take so much effort in convincing someone that a show is bad, then you need to think about whether you are nitpicking. However, if it's purely a rant of what is bad, then that's just expressing discontent, which isn't the same thing. I'm not targeting the behavior of deconstructing the show, I'm targeting the effort required to come to a certain conclusion. I still stand by that comment.

Also, the "delusional" remark was not directed at the 3000-word analysis. I don't know how you came to the conclusion. I thought it was plainly obvious that it was to rebut what Emperor Titus said instead, which I feel I can safely generalize as nonsensical.

I don't see how my initial comment came across as offensive in any way. I see myself a victim of an unnecessarily aggressive attack at a very innocent remark, but we can disagree. 🤷‍♀️

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Just want to assure you, @cantbothertologin, my brain is functioning greatly without any delusion, and I guess I have right to say different opinion like mapping out the show's reasoning? I am pretty sure I am not hired by Assemblyman Go, and I have no responsibility to please someone by agree them?

This is what you said, "If a 4000-word essay is necessary for someone to dislike the show, if it take so much effort in convincing someone that a show is bad, then you need to think about whether you are nitpicking." I believe it's still an excuse of being lazy, and I am not preparing to take back my word.

(Just in case, my 3,000 words are just below. This show may have its own flaw, but it is not too hard to understand, as long as you follow the detail. For those who bully, I like to be Kang Sol A)

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I'm sorry @jorobertson that you're stuck in such a stupid conversation.

If you were inspired to write 3000, 4000 or 10,000 words on a drama then it has nothing to do with a drama being good or bad. It means you were inspired.

Good for you.

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Thank you LT. TBH I was inspired by you and @sicarius, two beanies I respect who are more experienced than I am. I needed to check why my response was so different. That's why I went back and looked again more carefully at the episodes. I was truly puzzled and wanted to find out if I was getting it wrong. I'm not involving myself in the aforementioned 👀👀👀 Life's too short to go down that rabbit hole. It's funny though - when it gets shouty, the aftertaste is gritty. Let's talk about our differing opinions of the drama, rather than denigrate each other. 😊😊😊

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Wow.... impressive!!! I agree on that what you said "fall in love with death?" I think we can... death is also another beginning. Live a right life without regret and I belive we can love death

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And she pretty much says that to him in the next episode: that you can't have a new beginning without an ending (winter/spring ...) and the way he looks at her in that moment is something else. For me, one of the saddest threads running through this is his grief at being who he is and having to constantly witness the death of things. I love when he talks about transient things being beautiful.

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Thats something even I agree on. Winter has to end for spring... darkness has to end for light.. what got me the most was "sometimes faces of misfortune and fortune are the same" God that is so true

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You explained their relationship so well. I also feel that their relationship wasn't rushed or anything and I agree that the turning point was when DK tried to protect MM from the knife.

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Beautiful and interesting analysis, thank you.

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"Sometimes, the face of sadness and happiness are just the same."

Don't be puzzled, @jorobertson. Art is always something true to personal experience and individual ability of understanding. As I said in my comment of last recap, I may not think this drama is a masterpiece, but it is not so bad either.

People think Dong-hyung and Myeol-mang's relationship as "rush", partly they don't realize there is a factor in this relationship: the limit of time. They have only 100 days, and one of them initially want to force herself to love him so that she can survive by killing him (This obstacle, I'm pretty sure, would come up once again in the future, when she love him so much she can't tolerate to hurt him). Also, a love relationship in such circumstance and such characters is destine to be different, and not many people experience, as well easy to handle that.

I guess you have mapped out Dong-kyung and Myeol-mang's intention so well, in here, I would like to talk about Goddess. In last episode, I thought she is being way too cruel, but after adding this episode into consideration, she may probably the one who understand Myeol-mang the most. She is telling him every miserable Dong-kyung experienced may have been done by him, but this is not his fault. Furthermore, every time her misfortune paired with happiness (good people come to console her, and she is not that lonely), so does that mean her happiness also a result of his? This is why in the end of this episode, she found him: she knows by resulting death and disappearance, a person so kind like himself must be very lonely. This is exactly where the bug is: the program has problem, but we don't need to go extreme by deleting or resetting it yet (Goddess said that last episode). What Goddess is doing now is to writing a patch to fix the bug, and Dong-kyung is the patch.

Therefore, even Goddess, who speak with codes and funny words, is not that hard to understand. Live is like a sheet of music, we need high and low notes to make it beautiful. I know Myeol-mang is sick with his job, but until he understand where his place is (and properly love Dong-kyung), he won't enjoy his job. Goddess' way of helping him maybe unconventional, but the problem is fixing, and audience may understand it when the drama progressing.

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Thank you. Interesting. I like *writing a patch to fix the bug* I'm assuming their back story is to come too.

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I guess it seems Goddess is using IT terms to talk about Myeol-mang, so I am using the same analogy. In fact it is pretty interesting because it makes me think of Matrix Trilogy.

I am thinking Dong-kyung doesn't only be Myeol-mang's love interest, she is in fact telling him his purpose of live being doom, which is one half of the nature in this world (like her supernova analogy: something must die before something else is born). I also find it interesting that this story didn't offer us a description of afterlife. In terms of all people including Dong-kyung, what happens after death is an unknown (unlike many other K-drama, like Hotel del Luna, for example). I am not sure if the show will tell us some episodes later, but I guess it is intentional: remember Myeol-mang also takes care anything unknown.

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Remember he told the "end of the world" woman that there was nothing after death?

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@jorobertson Yeah, I remember (I guess episode 4 when he told that woman spreading flyers talking about end of the world?), but will the show show that sometimes later anyway, I wonder?

I am just curious.

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I had a theory that she would take his place and become Doom but I'm not so sure now. The goddess warned him in the beginning that she wouldn't embrace the world the way he had.

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@jorobertson, I actually just watched a video talking about the philosophy behind all these. Since it is in Mandarin, which I don't know if you understand, I just leave the link to you here: https://youtu.be/AkXp89medlM

However, one of her main points is about what symbolize the pot plant and that crystal ball look like the universe. You see Goddess need to reincarnate as human from time to time (the last time Dong-hyung met Myeol-mang in the funeral home, he was mourning for the last incarnation of Goddess), but Myeol-mang is a being without beginning and end, yet control death, unfortune, as well birth (remember that supernova analogy from Dong-kyung?), so he probably is not a human. If Myeol-mang wants to end his own suffering, he must learn compassion, a.k.a., love, which is the plant Goddess is holding dear (She doesn't own the garden, but she owns him the pot plant). The crystal ball, however, is the universe, which its existence is in the hands of Myeol-mang and Dong-kyung, that's why she give the ball to Dong-kyung.

If you remember the first wish Dong-hyung has is to end the world. If she failed to wish it wholeheartedly (she initially wished that when she was half drunk), she will live, and the one she love most will die. Following the train of thought the vlogger I mentioned at the top, my guess is: If they have become the most loved one for each other, Myeol-mang, who has never died, will die, and reborn as human, and they will be together in the rest of these lives of theirs.

So, using the analogy I (actually Goddess) used in Ep.6, Myeol-mang has a bug to be fixed, and Dong-Kyung ("Yearning", "Hope") is the patch. Myeol-mang must learn to love and compassion, and make Dong-kyung to love him the most, so when Dong-kyung fail to wish the world ends, Myeol-mang will die, and rebirth as a human, and end his miserable (and Dong-kyung's miserable will end, too, since his presence is the reason of all her miserable).

This is also why that statement Dong-kyung made in the end of this episode: “Sometimes, the faces of misfortune and fortune are the same.”

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@imperialtitus I love the mythology/philosophy that you've explained. It makes sense. The only question it leaves me with is about DK. I didn't think there was any get-out clause for her. I though he only offered freedom from pain, but she had to follow through on her wish to end the world or lose the one she loved.

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And because Dong-kyung represents something Myeol-mang is not (Hope, Yearning--remember in an interview, Seo In-Guk said, in character of Myeol-mang, that he loves Park Hyo-shin*'s Yearning, a song's Korean name is also pronounce "dong kyung"?). He is yearning for everything Dong-kyung representing. This is why he love her, and this is also why he dare not to fall in love with her.

*The actress who plays Dong-kyung, Park Bo-young, is a fan of Park Hyo-shin, so the answer has double meaning.

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Oh, I love that. Can you give me the link to the interview?

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@jorobertson Please open "cc" for English subtitle.
https://youtu.be/0UDODGY3rk0?t=326

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A bonus for you, @jorobertson.

"In-guk, I'm too short, so I can't do this. I'm very sorry ..."

https://youtu.be/GuVT0fnJ42s?t=16

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Loved the BTS videos.

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You are saying some important things:
1. the goddess's understanding of MM. I knew she was showing him how he had caused DK's misfortune and I saw it as hurting him, but I missed that she was letting him know it wasn't his fault.
2. Also because of the misfortune/happiness pairing that the goddess is dependent on MM for every good thing that happens. YES. She needs him too.
3. The bug is his emotions - he thought he had left them behind - long ago, and the goddess warned him about feeling sympathy and how it would become increasingly painful. I've got lots to say about his grief which I might leave until next time, but for me, it's the most moving part of the whole drama - seeing the transience of beautiful things. So sad. I wonder if/how his grief can be fixed?

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It appears the recapper continues to struggle, thinking the series is some simple romance, and is wondering where the usual generic K-drama scenes are. It might help to view the series as one big existential metaphor. 'Doom' has no typical K-drama lead backstory because he is literally the personification of misfortune. So no backstory.
This is the first episode I've rewatched immediately after the first viewing in a very very long time.
My prediction: heart patient God is slated to die before the series is over and Dong-kyung has a still undisclosed metaphysical role to play.

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That's an unfair assessment of quirkycase's comments on the romance. Nobody was expecting it to be simple. Quite the opposite, I was hoping, that the romance would be more cleverly executed with this kind of setup or at least better explained and not treated like a foregone conclusion, that I have to accept, because it was advertised as the backbone of this drama.

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Also (sorry, there's more), how is this different than every other "simple", "generic" supernatural romance?
Is it the fact that...
- ...the guy is the one with superpowers?
- ...the girl is a hard-working, underappreciated orphan (and is of course bullied for having no parents)?
- ...they have a nebulous childhood connection?
- ...the girl bravely throws herself in front of a knife for her man despite him being a supernatural being?
-...the girl is the first one to melt the prickly guys heart with her goodness?
-...the guy falls into self-existential depression and stays away from the girl, only to silently still care for her and reappear, when she's in danger?

This drama isn't exactly reinventing the genre and the criticism most definitly doesn't stemm from the fact, that people just don't get it, because its storytelling is on another level.
If it speaks to you, good on you. I sincerely hope you enjoy it to the end.

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"the criticism most definitely doesn't stem from the fact, that people just don't get it" Thank you for saying this.

I don't understand why any criticism of a faux-deep drama like this is always interpreted as "oh you just aren't smart enough to get it" or "you just don't have the required taste since you watch and love 'typical' kdramas" 🙄. This show is about as typical as it is possible for a kdrama to be.

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Yeah, that was pretty rude in all honesty.

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Yes!! Thank you for saying this. I've been biting my tongue so much these past weeks while reading comment sections.

The amount of condescending comments I have seen here and on MDL is astounding and irksome.

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@miso Thank you for saying this.

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Thank you @waterbottle @miso @paroles @am1993 and @sirena !

I am very happy that there are some folks who enjoy this drama, who can't wait for the next episodes, etc. The beauty of this DRAMABEANS space is that fans and not-fans can all share their opinions on Kdramas they are watching and create a community around those opinions, without being shamed for these opinions.

For those of us that enjoy DAYS (much much much!) less, it's not because the plot is complicated. It's really not. Just like @waterbottle said, this is NOT a new plot premise. 15+ years of KDramas, and I'm here to watch the delivery of a show, knowing that the plot might be fairly generic.

So yes, the main complaint is the delivery, and @quirkycase is doing an excellent job at convening this in the recaps.

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I liked this show from ep one to five and then it became exactly that, a simple romance with every possible cliche.

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As much as I’ved loved show since ep 1, at moments it leaves me reeling- the character interactions are a little too inconsistent for me to not notice, and even OTP’s chemistry couldn’t cover up the convoluted plot line. I hope the show settles into its groove as we’ve pass the halfway mark- as much as I enjoy watching, the instantaneous switching between melodrama and romcom is an issue and leaves me feeling disjointed and takes out the immersion.

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Thank you quirkycase for the great recap. Still loving the chemistry between the leads especially the angst they feel when separated.

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Thus far this Shin(Goddess) person seems to be the only villain in this drama

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I think cancer is a villain, as is life. And since the goddess is existence, she’s kind of the villain too - no one gets out alive. She’s seen millennia of human cycles, and it looks like she’s both rooting for Doom and being realistic. Life isn’t necessarily fun or fair, and I think we’re seeing that with this goddess. She just is, and she runs the greater machinery, and Doom is part of it.

I’ve approached this entire show as a metaphor and liked it. Life isn’t fair. My friend died at 29 of bowel cancer, is that fair? Things happen that are awful and beautiful. Once I was with another friend in a remote place and we looked up at the night sky and saw millions of stars - what was interesting was our reactions. She got back into the car because it made her feel insignificant and small; I basked in it because of the exact same reasons, I loved feeling like I was a small piece of a wondrous process. We react differently to these things.

I’m enjoying this show because of its pieces and individuality. Sometimes you cling to someone for odd reasons. Sometimes you abandon someone for odd reasons. The goddess can love and also be cruel. Doom can love and also know the end is coming, as can Dong Kyung. In a way, everything is a villain - you constantly need to recalculate your priorities and your values to maintain equilibrium.

I like this show because it says the quiet part loud a lot. Life is the villain and you’re the hero. Life will kill you in the end, but you can put up a good fight. Dong Kyung is putting up a good fight, and so is Doom. And so, in her own way, is the goddess.

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So well said. This is exactly it.

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I think I'm gonna cry... I felt so bad DK, why do guys have to kiss and dash... come on man !! BTW I don't think she need to wish him to love her. I think he already is. At first I thought there wasn't a villain mabey the goddess might be a bit of a problem but OH NO !!! SHE'S THE VILLAIN !!! How can she ask those from him?? But seriously when is that plant going to grow ? Is there even a plant in there ?? Hopefully from now on mabey DK won't have to worry much about her brother... I think guy has mature to an extent...
God I'm in love with this drama 😍

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He already loves her. She's changed him.

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True very true !!! This drama definitely has some of the best lines I have heard from all the dramas I have watched so far... Almost all the characters have them or their stories may have them

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I don’t think the goddess is a villain. I think she’s just reality. And if he’s willing to struggle against reality, then great. But she is there to tell him that his chances of success are low, because they are.

The goddess is infuriating, but what deity is sane? Doom’s had it easy so far, compared to Job and Abraham.

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The kiss and dash reminded me of Joo-ik's criticism of Ji-na's writing of a the runaway hero. At least DK got him to come back. Running away is not an attractive quality, and Doom seems to be doing that for a long time. He causes an accident and walks away, resigned to his fate. DK gets him to confront his role in the world beyond the superficial "I walked by and something bad happened. :( "

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I don’t think he causes the accidents really - it’s more like a boat causing wake in a pond. Any movement from the boat will cause waves, no matter the boat’s intent. And we’ve seen that Doom can’t just stay still either, or he’s tormented by everyone’s thoughts. So disaster just happens, as easy as when we breathe. He’s the cause, but not the intent.

I think what Dong Kyung is doing is getting Doom to interact with the world beyond the guilt he feels for causing unhappiness just by existing, and goes beyond the ways he tries to exert a little justice with things like keeping the murderer alive (which, if you think of it, is him working out his own existential issues - unlike Doom, the murderer MEANT to hurt people, and now is trying to escape via a method unavailable to Doom). Dong Kyung is getting Doom emotionally invested in something that will die. She’s making it plain that she doesn’t hold him responsible for her death - clearly he doesn’t WANT her to die. And that is an entirely novel experience for someone who has largely been an onlooker, and when he tried to create an acceptable role for himself sort of landed on “grim reaper”. But that’s not what he is. He’s a part of the universe and he helps make things run, even though the methods are terrible, and this is the first time he’s truly considered that he can be more than a bystander.

Is it going to hurt? Yeah. But as Dong Kyung is trying to show him, you can’t focus only on the hurt. There’s beauty there too, and it can balance out the pain more than you’d guess But you have to participate.

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@Miranda Beautifully said :-) . Only with this:

" And we’ve seen that Doom can’t just stay still either, or he’s tormented by everyone’s thoughts."

I think it is worse than this for him. The way I understood it, he is tormented by those voices whether he stays still or not; that is the punishment he gave the murderer: "If you want to be Doom so badly, here's a taste". Staying still just meant that disasters got worse because there was nobody to be the traffic guard.

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I agree on the rushed romance. They seemingly wanted to go the classic "I pity you, therefore I love you" route, but a) that's already a shaky concept and b) like a lot of dramas, this one doesn't quite seem to grasp, that empathy is not the same as attraction and you need to establish a romantic connection, that goes beyond a normal bond between humans (or in this case humans and demigods).

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That is very much the problem with the secondary love triangle for me: kdramas have an obsession with making male leads pity the female as a basis for love, and I absolutely hate that trope. But in this case, between MM and DK, I think with DK is neither pity nor empathy, by themselves; it is compassion (which is probably a mixture of both), but especially understanding.

I think the most important factor in their romance is that she understands who he is and where he is coming from, and she is helping him to see himself in a different light. She is drawn to him ofc because he has the key to whether she is in pain, and whether she survives, but also by his kindness to her (which she considers a rare occurrence in her world); while he is surprised that she keeps challenging his own obsession that he is evil and deserves to be hated. MM loves her because she sees him the way he wishes he could see himself.

That is not to say, perhaps, that the execution isn't a bit rushed and choppy; the payoff might have been greater if we weren't in epic-love territory by episode 6. But I do understand why they would be drawn to each other. There are flimsier stories of attraction in dramaland (viz., Joo Ik, frankly).

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First off, yeah, I hate that trope, too.
Secondly, I can sort of understand Myeol-mang's attraction. You also explained it very well. Dong-kyung's in the other hand is a little shaky for me. I get her wanting MM around for painkilling purposes, but to me, he hasn't been that kind to her, threatening to kill her brother, staring down at her while was writhing in pain, mocking her and all that. What makes her want to be with him apart from the conveniences she would reap from it?
Also, I skip all the secondary triangle scenes, so I'm just gonna take your word for it on everything related to that :-D

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Well, there is a progression there. In the beginning MM is playing the evil-guy charade he thinks is his nature (in one case he was acting up after the goddess insinuated he was getting soft; with the brother, I think he was being smug about his bias that humans were trash; he was also trying to show DK that he had power over her); DK is infuriated and sticks up for herself (which is a nice change in kdrama heroines), and they fight. But he also doesn't follow through (the writhing lasted only for a few seconds before he relented), and as she gets to know him better, she knows that it *is* a charade.

This realising that he is not as bad as he claims to be, is accompanied by moments of kindness that become progressively grander: He heals her little cut and thanks her after the scene with her ex, he tends to come and hold her hand when she is deep in thought and/or slightly troubled (crossing the street, on the subway), he protects her from the murderer, and they have moments of intimacy (the dream at the beach, the "this is my world" scene). More grandness follows after they are together.

I also wouldn't discount the power of teasing. MM is both hot and playful, and DK may be annoyed, but she is also unsettled. It is not all about doom (no pun intended) and gloom; MM knows how to be sexy, and it works on her :-p.

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I love your explanations! You totally described mm's character progression so well. I also think he hasn't really identify his feeling to dk as love that's why it's taking long for the plant to grow. He knows he feels something for her but he just can't understand it yet although I think he is slowly realizing what it really is..

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@snowangel we get more information about that, and about the plant in episode 8, but I think he does know; otherwise he would have been obliged to grant her wish. The question is what to do about it, considering the who-gets-to-die issue. This is his noble-idiot moment "I am leaving you because I don't deserve you, and I don't want you to suffer for my sake", and it probably will be her turn next (sigh). On the upside, although DK was reckless forcing his hand (Quirkycase has a point), one thing I love about their relationship is that she doesn't take any crap from him, supernatural being or not. :-)

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It's not a charade, he never said he was joking about the contract and never planned to end the world just because he was tired of his job. That's it. She can pity him, can feel attracted, can feel love all she likes, but can't or shouldn't say he's a good guy. It's like she's turning him into a poor misunderstood ML when the stakes were always so much higher than that.

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@lixie By charade, I don't mean that he was joking or deliberately playing a role. I mean that he is convinced that he is a villain, therefore presents himself as one. He tells DK repeatedly that he is a bad guy and she shouldn't trust him, and puts on "evil" acts (the harsh teasing, the insinuations about killing her brother) to prove it to her, and dare her to love him. But except punishing the murderer, and finally taking away his life, he hasn't yet done anything big to anyone. The funny thing is that in this "poor misunderstood guy" trope, MM is the one who misunderstands himself.

Wanting to bring the end of the world obviously is not a nice thing to do :-)) but the core issue is, if MM wasn't a good person deep down, he wouldn't care about causing destruction in the first place, and he wouldn't feel he need to end the world just to die. The deal with DK just shows his desperation to find a way out, and it is the necessary beginning for his personal redemption story. He may be an antihero, but he is not a villain.

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@delurker We know he has convinced himself he is bad, the trick is the moment he traps someone into a contract to end the world he becomes a villain. Putting his need above humanity makes him a villain. Judging humanity as mean for silly reasons makes him a villain. There is no other explanation unless he says he never had any real intent to go forward. The fact he feels sorry to do his job just shows he doesn't understand his role in that system. It doesn't make him a nice creature though he has the capacity for empathy as shown before.

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@lixie That's an interesting question: Does one villanous act make one a villain? :-)
As for his contempt for humanity, though, I don't think it is born out of villainy, but self-defence. Since he can't stand to bring destruction, it is easier for him to convince himself that his "victims" are worthless anyway. But his redemption arc involves revising that idea, and as you say, finally understanding what his role is :-) . If he truly believed it, he wouldn't hate his job so much. But it is more than hate; he is truly tortured by it (viz. the "fate is cruel" scene with the goddess, then DK).
So, going back to my first point, I guess I would compare him to someone who tries to commit suicide in a way that causes others to die as well (in his case, because there is no other way to go about it), so you actually raised an interesting point there :-).

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Completely agree. I also just want to add a bit why I find the personification of Doom, as a literal character, to be rather more sympathetic over the average misunderstood hero, even given his desire for destruction at the outset. He is a force of nature that is essentially unstoppable, until the end, which means every moment of creation creates even greater weight on him as he is there to ineviteably strip these things away. At this point, he has probably caused more individual destruction over the course of his existence (and will in the future) than he would if he were to end the world right now. He may even quantify it as causing less misery, because in his reality this is just an endless cycle of pain for him and others, as he often doesn’t get to see the good and is privy to only all the worst of his own destruction.

So I never felt it to be a “I’m sad/mad so I want the whole world to suffer” situation with him, but more of a “I’m tired of this endless cycle of destruction that will only bring more pain and suffering for everyone involved, present and future” sort of deal. He is obviously still very wrong for this, but the scope of his conflict has been a bit more compelling for me. The fact that his deal for destruction ironically led him back into the path of realizing how short-sighted he was in not ackowledging all the things about life that make it worth living has been simultaneuously satisfying and sad to watch for me, as it truly conveyed how disconnected he’d been from all the good parts of existence. Admittedly, some moments/progressions could certainly be better executed, though I’ve mostly been satisfied.

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"Does one villanous act make one a villain? :-)"
If said act involves killing someone, probably, if it's billions, big yes. kkk

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@lixie Anyone can have a bad day :-))) . And so far it is all intentions, not acts; not the guy's shining moment, but I don't see it as defining his whole moral character. We are well past that kill-everybody phase now. He is perfectly ok with dying by himself, now that DK has found the loophole.

(Once a villain, always a villain? :-p)

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What feel like rushed romance, to me even though they already love each other it is still allot for them to explore like what love really means to them. MM have yet to understand what he is feeling for DK from what he says in ep 8. Consider DK do not have long time to live she do not hold back anymore and goes with her feelings witch speed up the romance.

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I mean, to be honest, some, and may I say many, real life relationships happen because people feel that spark and attraction to each other from the get-go. I feel like that’s what happened between MM and DK. They have an undeniable pull towards one another, they’re curious about one another, they’re bothered by one another. Isn’t this how romance usually happens in real life? They lived together, they even slept on the same bed together, I would think them denying any romantic attraction would make less sense. Especially if you add on the whole tragic backstory and impending doom, it makes even more sense why they would find solace in one another amidst the uncertainty around them.

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I think you can be drawn to each other. If either of them were framing this as a grand sweeping romance and making passionate love declarations I’d be exasperated, but it’s coming across to me as much more “I need you around” or “I’m not finished with you” or “I don’t know what this is but there’s something here”.

I thought SIG’s sigh just before they kissed was a great touch. It kind of sounded like “I give up”, which is something that can happen when you’re drawn to someone. It’s the audible sound of ignoring all of the very logical reasons NOT to do this, and the acknowledgement that something magnetic is happening and you’re going to stop fighting it. That’s not to say it’s destiny or fate or even going to last beyond the kiss - it’s just a recognition that all the non-logical parts of you are trying to push you over the edge and you’ve decided to roll the dice.

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Also, it seems it's now Myeol-mang's turn to make a huge decision, that only lasts until the end-of-the-episode credits.

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I don't know if their love story is rushed. I think the fact she's dying changed DK a lot, she's bolder. If I agree that using herself as way to make him come back wasn't the nicest and wisest, she doesn't really have his phone or his adress neither. I'm happy she finaly said she was ill even if it was a little bit too direct :p

The trio is so stuck in unsaid things. Both men should really talk!

The Deity is weird. God in Lucifer is way more fun than her! Her intentions are not clear and contradictory.

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I was shocked when she took out her bracelet too but then I figured she thought that was the only way for MM to come back to her. Like what you said, she decided to take risk because the guy does not even have a phone she can contact and she probably doesn't know the way to his house.

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"One step forward, two steps back" gives waaaay to much credit to the writer, as it implies a linear progression, ...something this drama (sadly) lacks.

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@beantown when you are working out of desperation because everything is at stake, and time is being ripped away, linear progression is not necessarily what would be expected. This isn't a romance where we get to celebrate the first 100 days with cake and candles. By the time 100 days gets here, it's all over. Unless, of course, they go off the path and find a miracle.

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I really don’t understand the Goddess. It’s so hard to decipher her cryptic, almost sinister plans!
Also, I agree with @quirkycase about Joo Ik. Him kissing Ji Na out of nowhere was so weird! It doesn’t make sense at all.

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All I could this watching this episode and the next is God is Petty, lol. I was like girl, what are you doing? None of this is necessary. I also have to agree about the romance, it was rushed. They went from make me love you to I love you quick, there was no buildup, just dramatic zingers and dramatic acts.

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Old Testament: god is INCREDIBLY petty. I’ve read a bunch of other religious texts where god is
bonkers as well, sometimes breaking people just to prove it’s possible. I prefer this god, who at least is rooting for a different outcome and seems to feel regret.

I’ve felt like the “make me love you” is just the prelude. If you’re asking for someone to make you love them, that’s more like permission than anything. He may not know exactly what love is or what it means, but he knows what he feels for Dong Kyung is different.

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@quirkycase Thank you for another recap. I agree that the romance between Dong-kyung and Myeol-mang did progress rather quickly. I would've liked for there to be a more natural/realistic buildup of their relationship. With regards to the Diety, I would still like to know what her ultimate goal is. Lastly, I felt such satisfaction when Dong-Kyung gave that writer a piece of her mind.

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The writing in this drama is very confusing.
I honestly think the writer doesn't have any clue, about where does the drama should go, which is a pity for the actors, and even the secondary actors are suffering.
And you know what's worse??? Many of us can already predict this won't end well... whether they turn the whole thing into a miracle, a dream, or a sad ending where they don't end up together, it will be hard to believe, confusing and most likely not satisfying, because you don't get to feel the struggle.
It would make me upset, if I would have had high expectations, but I hadn't any, so I not even upset.
I am commenting for the pleasure of gossiping

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"Holding your own well-being hostage to get someone else’s attention or to force them to stay with you is never okay."
Normally, I would agree with what quirkycase said, but their situation is uncommon. I personally don't blame Dong-kyung for ripping off her bracelet. I think it is the only way to bring Doom back in her life; He is suffering from his own version of noble idiocy. Besides, she only has a little time left, a girl's gotta do what she has to. I also like it that she didn't even hesitate; you go, girl! I can't help but wonder though what Doom's transformation will cost him. For Pinocchio, the blue fairy said that he can become a real boy if he will prove himself brave, truthful, and unselfish. He did all that in the end, by saving his father's life at the expense of his own. Wonder what our Doom will do; I'm still hoping for a happy ending with this drama. On the other hand, I'm loving our feisty heroine more and more. She has her own issues also, but she is able to put Doom firmly in his place - make him see himself from another perspective. Please don't disappoint or frustrate us, show. You're doing good so far.

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I don’t see the goddess to be the villain, actually. Villain in their love story, yeah maybe. But at the end of the day she’s the all-knowing, the impartial, the powerful. She’s trying to keep the world in peace and in balance, and you see MM trying to turn everything upside down. So she tries to teach MM a lesson, but at the end of the day she can’t stop him, because she wants to give him that free will. And she lets him go after what he wants anyway, because she loves him.

I’m super happy to see MM and DK progress in their romance — there certainly isn’t enough time for them to play games with one another, and it’s so refreshing to see leads in dramas that are not ashamed to confess their feelings and to acknowledge what they’re feeling very early on. I like DK because she’s so honest with her feelings and she’s not afraid to go after what she wants — she doesn’t care for pride in how she risks her life in order to get MM to come to her. She’s smart and witty and doesn’t need anyone to help her. Her worldview is also very interesting — death doesn’t seem to matter much to her at this point as it is enjoying the little time she has left. This might change once her time is actually nearing but for now her steadfastness and bravery is something admirable.

It’s also heartening to see MM’s character development in encountering someone who truly understood him, was there for him, and stood by him no matter his negative qualities. He may hate all other humans but he’s starting to love this one, and I’m interested to how the story will progress later on.

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Keeping in mind that the clock is ticking for DK, their love story doesn't feel rushed to me. I'll say it's refreshing to see a drama where the leads don't spend 10+ episodes playing hide and seek.
I really can't stand Lee Hyun. I'm hoping for a Joo-Ik/Ji Na romance once we get to know more about their story

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I feel this way too. Not only is she on limited time, but their romance was promoted as the central draw to the series to begin with, so what is there to speculate about? We know exactly what the OTP is so we can not only take comfort in that, we aren't going to get some stupid alternative option thrown in to throw us, and we can just go ahead and enjoy their interactions together. There's no guesswork with a will they or won't they, and I always insist that's stronger planning/writing when you just get to the point (unlike me, lol).

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i watched an interview where both leads were talking about how the dialogue was written sorta weird and hard for them to memorize. makes sense that viewers are confused too hah

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Haha yes, I saw that too. Apparently the problem is that the writer's style is too literary for spoken dialogue. Nobody really talks like that, and the poor actors need to find a way to make it work :-))) . Perhaps it is a rookie problem, and she will get better with practice. It reminds me a little of student writers who are more concerned with using fancy words and sounding pretty than making themselves understood.

It strikes me now that all the issues people are having with pacing, and convoluted premises, and confusing information, stem from the fact that her plan is ambitious, but her skills are still developing, and she can't quite execute what she is going for. She might have done better if this was her fifth drama rather than her second.

That said, I am enjoying it well enough so far; I hope it doesn't go south for the second half, now that she has the romance all set and eight more episodes to fill.

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I never realized until this drama came out that I am stupid and lazy. Not even Dark (the german series) could open my eyes to this truth but Doom did. Thank you Doom and its writer! Now I'll go to write a deep analysis about all the dramas I am watching and tell those who didn't like it how stupid they are. This is the way.

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I like your ending reference. Lol

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Seems like an overreaction. Maybe write your deep analysis understanding that it’s meaningful to you, but may not resonate with others. No one is stupid for how they experience entertainment. People just take different things away from a common reference point.

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I did not think the bracelet removal was a way to get Myul Mang back - I thought it was a “eff you”. He doesn’t get to sneak in when she’s asleep and continue the bargain that way. Does it mean that her cancer causes pain? Yes. But it takes back control. She never means she’ll throw herself off the roof and ripping off the bracelet isn’t suicide - it’s just a return to the status quo.

I like that the characters in this drama are much more individual than relationship-based. And I like that MM is told that he causes disaster but it’s just his being, not his intent. Too many dramas are premised on the idea that two people will crumble if they’re not together - in this one, two people are gradually finding a way to be together, even if things crumble around them. I like that.

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I prefer that reasoning for the ripped bracelet. Is it because I'm willing to accept anything from these two crazy kids? Maybe. But it also makes sense with the timing that she did it, and she did make it clear to him that was she reason she was ticked off. Because he dropped in and out and all he left her was a sweet, passive gesture, lol.

I guess I realize the reason that we are all here today, these two's romance, so I'm not bent out of shape about their speed or anything like that. They're the OTP, their romance was what was advertised to us from the start, so we've been locked in with them as a pair from the jump and I even took some comfort with that narratively. There was no need to fool around or entertain other options because we know exactly where we're going to end up. It's not the what here, it's the how. And I also like that they're learning since they both have no clue what love is.

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I do like this drama. I can't really explain why though. It leads me on a meandering river. I like the scenery. Our leads are both planning on dying in the next 100 days, and that's ok with me. With death being a constant in my life this pandemic, to have 100 days to know is a luxury, and they are taking their time to get there. To realize what they need from each other, and to lean on each other--but always knowing that time is finite, and that they only have that time with each other. I do love that Doom has already fallen for our heroine--why wouldn't he?

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The luxury is knowing when you are going to die and you dont have to suffer while waiting for it.
Sometimes I feel this drama after so many episodes passed, is still at ep 1. PBY is so pretty and I love her cloths.

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It does still feel like episode 1. 😂 Have you ever been on a float trip down a river or stream? You go around a bend and you think you’ve been there already. It’s looks so similar to where you just were, but maybe there’s an extra bush or two on the shore; the trees are all the same size and shape but arranged a little differently. That’s how I feel here. We’ve been here, but now they actually enjoy each other’s company, or her brother now knows her diagnosis. Some people think it’s a waste of time. On one of my float trips the starting and ending point is the same. It’s a big circle. No waves or rapids, just a lazy river. You just think about the sky or how long that tree has been growing to get that tall. That’s what this drama is to me. And PBY is pretty. That’s the only reason my husband is watching this. 😆

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Actually, it’s part of a large lake (that is the big circle), but you get my analogy.

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Your husband has a great taste 😃

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I agree the writing is confusing and the romantic relationship incredibly rushed. In this vein, the director have him lunge at her for a first kiss didn’t help. A few seconds of tension building between the two would have helped the romance as a whole feel less forced. Both actors have proven time and again, drama after drama that they can deliver stunningly scorching and swoon worthy performances. I’m so sad this drama is wasted on them thus far.

On another note, while I like PBY’s character, SIG’s character is not well drawn out. So far we have cold, but really sad. We know nothing else about him and thus, he seems one-dimensional. I wish SIG had been given more to work with. He is such a great character actor and infused so many layers and quirks into his character. I feel here he is little more than eye candy.

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It is true that the scene was not particularly dramatic as a prelude to the kiss, though from DK's point of view, it was an absolutely swoony moment, and something I think she needed badly: Yes, unpleasant things happen, but stop moaning and take them in your stride; they aren't a big deal, and they will pass :-p. I love her character, but I think the tragedy of her life before the diagnosis is being overplayed a little. She suffered a devastating loss, and I understand fully that she is scarred, but all the other moments MM visited with the goddess were relatively minor annoyances. She did tell MM that "everyone has a sob story", but she seems to have needed someone to take that weight off her pessimistic shoulders.

As for MM's character, I don't really see him as one-dimensional. He is not just cold and sad: he hates himself and the world because of who he is forced to be, and he is gradually learning both about his own role in the universe, and the complex nature of humankind. We don't have a concrete backstory for him yet, but I think SIG is doing a fantastic job (as always) showing his inner conflict. So far I can understand and empathise; I don't really need to learn that he used to be human, or how he came to be. Although I am sure we will find out eventually.

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What makes MM sort of odd to me and a bit of a black box is that there isn't a human part of him when other male supernatural characters often have human characteristics. I don't mean human emotions like empathy, anxiety, love, hate, etc. But the little preferences and little odd things that humans get excited about - like a particular way they like their ice cream or a fondness for fashion or a mini-addiction to makjang drama. Some have jobs and nice homes.

He doesn't even own a tv or a laptop!

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I think this is what is throwing a lot of people off - he genuinely isn’t human. He doesn’t have a backstory and doesn’t have relatable human quirks. He doesn’t even have a life, he just endures. There is no tragic love in his past that has caused him to withdraw from the world and Dong Kyung is the fated person to heal him - he was born into a terrible role that’s isolated him, and he has never been human. If you’ve ever seen “Meet Joe Black”, I think there are parallels.

I happen to like that about him, but I sense that for others it comes across as a thin characterization.

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I agree with Miranda; for me, giving him little human quirks and habits would make him less godlike. I like that he doesn't eat or sleep, and since he wants as little contact as possible with the world, hasn't picked up any human hobbies, except reading, because he is deep :-p (btw, I looked up what he was reading in one scene: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Leaf_in_My_Mouth . He needs to lighten up :-)) )

Interestingly, he does have a nice home, and I was a little disappointed that it was a physical place. It got me thinking how he bought it or how he rents it, since he doesn't make money. Has he stolen it through hypnosis? That kind of details break the spell for me. I said it elsewhere, but for me it is enough that I can empathise, even if I don't know everything. How much do we know even about people around us?

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Haha, I was just pondering over what books he reads since that seems to be the one hobby he does have. Thanks for looking it up! I suppose this remains consistent with him only acquinting himself with the sorrows of life. I’m glad he’s getting to, little by little, enjoy the feeling of giving happiness to others.

Given that he’s had the advantage of being around since the beginning of time, I could see how he has managed to accumulate a degree of wealth at this point.

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@mazzy But how would he even accumulate wealth? He doesn't have a paying job, and he doesn't need money either, since he doesn't have human needs and doesn't mingle with human society. I would have preferred MM's house to be a metaphysical place like the goddess's garden.

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I wonder if it's a non-physical space within a physical space? Like the outside structure is real and probably some rich person's rarely-used second home. Once you walk in, the inside is like a cave with only a few furnishings. I'm disappointed it doesn't feel more lived-in. No bookcase? kitchen? bathroom?

If the space was fully physical, then like Mazzy said, he probably accumulated wealth by just living long enough. I can also see the goddess providing him accommodations.

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@ar I like your solution :-) But precisely, he doesn't need kitchens or bathrooms; he spends all his time reading on the sofa, or brooding on the window seat :-p and the bedroom, I suspect he just conjured it up when DK said to sleep together :-p .

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Ha, all of the questions around the house are I think another break-point with expectations from other fantasy series. And amusingly, I realized my expectations of MM’s reading habits all linger around stuff like “Cloud Atlas” or “Lanark” or the collected works of Kafka. Not only do I think traditional fiction would bore him, I think nonfiction (which is time-locked) would also bore him. He’d need the out-there stuff to be engaged.

And on that note, I always assumed the house is just… conceptual? The rooms inside change, the doors to the outside change, the inner layout changes - when he drives her to it and she says she can find it again since it’s so close, he says she won’t be able to. So I never even considered the purchase price of the house or the land or the useable kitchen. This is a guy whose appearance changes depending on who’s looking at him; it’s incredibly possible that Dong Kyung isn’t seeing a real house but instead her brain’s anticipation of a living space, whereas it’s actually more of a [Doom’s Abode] thing. A thought that can be occupied through the visitor’s expectations rather than tangible space.

Which brings us back to my suspicion that Myul Mang is reading stuff like “Lanark”, a book I absolutely loathe because I find the characters repellant but the fluid worldbuilding somehow worked once you got into the rhythm of it and stopped holding on so tight to specifics.

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Ah, one more thing: I don’t think he needs wealth. Unlike You From The Star where the alien had limited personal superpowers and had spent a long time casually building up wealth and a persona, Myul Mang doesn’t need any of that. People see him as a kid or a grandpa or a hottie, depending on the viewer. Myul Mang doesn’t seem to need wealth because he can just conjure out of thin air. He can whammy people into forgetting hours at a time. The one thing we DO seem to see is that he’s typically in a human form, and that has impacts beyond human behavior - a primate form is going to want to sit down, for instance, so he’ll probably want chairs. And much like he seems to have picked up a smoking habit, there may be other human-adjacent things he’s just gotten accustomed to subconsciously and incorporated into his home. I mean, right now his “home” appears to be a modernist hotel lobby with books and tea. He manifests other stuff as needed, like bedrooms and bathrooms. I don’t think they’re permanent features though.

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Like, Miranda and @delurker, I’ve felt that this sort of blank slate was consistent with where his character has been emotionally. In most cases, I love when those human quirks manifest in a supernatural character, but, here, if Doom was already living with a human-like mentality, than it would have been harder to understand him not being able to connect with all the positive things about human existence. I think his guilt and self-loathing have, unfortunately, precluded him from developing human quirks and behaviours.

These episodes did really well to convey a sense of hopelessness surrounding his lack of control over his actions. It finally makes me understand, just a little bit, why he was willing to go to such drastic measures to establish control over his fate and end it all. Now that DK is helping him to understand his role and to let go of his guilt, he’s only just learning what it feels like to give people happiness, not pain. I’m hoping, the more human he becomes, the more he’ll begin to take on a few new quirks as he becomes reaquinted with what it means to be one.

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Uuuuuu I haven't watch the show yet, only watching the BTS so far -which made me so bubly and excited. I think I am going to start watching the show and back reading the recap again, hahaha. I think my immense love for PBY/SIG and the other cast will overcome the flaw in storyline! I will turn off my brain and enjoy what the show has to offer. God knows how long I've been waiting for PBY/SIG pairing!

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I've also felt the romance was very rushed, they were getting closer but it wasn't the kind of romantic love it became. The goddess had a complete change of personality and when she blamed MM for some things that happened to DK it was absurd. Does he choose to do anything or follow some kind of plan? Even if it's just an instinct, any idea of blame becomes ridiculous if he's just part of a system which is something this deity said many times. It seems this silly plot twist was created just for DK to be able to defend him and say something apparently meaningful about balance.

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Thank you for the recap!!

I love all the individual scenes and the drama really hits me in the gut sometimes - like when DK told everyone she was going to die at the team dinner and that ending scene. I even like the scenes of the love triangle. It does get dicey when I try to stitch the scenes together . Something about this drama reminds me of an impressionist painting. It gives off the impression and feeling of something or of a mood using a flurry of messy brushstrokes. Sometimes I get annoyed because everything looks hazy.

Seems like MM has been self-pitying for quite some time. I'm ready for DK to get MM to understand that he isn't all bad!

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Na JiNa's love story is taking the spotlight from the our lead characters. I don't get it. When you have a supporting role, it should stay that way. And the Goddess.. she's really confusing. LOL. The only reason I'm staying loyal to DAYS is because of PBY and SIG great chemistry.

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I don't think it's fair to give her a hard time for acting erratically. She's about to die, under a ton of stress, living on the edge and the only person she had come to rely on as her rock abandon's her just as she started to fall in love. Is she supposed to play hard-to-get under those circumstances.

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