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Nevertheless: Episode 2 Open Thread

While everything (and everyone) is telling our heroine that she should keep a distance from her new suitor, she can’t seem to deny her attraction. Or rather, she fights with herself against that attraction the entire episode, in a string of push-and-pull scenarios that feel alarmingly realistic.

 
EPISODE 2 WEECAP

The cherry blossom kiss that seemed about to happen at the end of our episode last week was interrupted by the ever-poorly-timed phone call, and Na-bi and Jae-un part without a kiss, but with heaps more tension between them.

As we venture into more of the story, we see more of Na-bi and Jae-un’s classmates, and the drama feels more full with this body of characters taking up more space in the story. Na-bi’s closest friend is OH BIT-NA (Yang Hye-ji), an edgy girl with a haircut I can’t decide if I love or hate.

But is this girl really a good friend? She spends the first half of the episode trying to convince Na-bi that Jae-un is a player and she should stay away… but then when she sees/feels what is between them when they’re together, she seems to change her course and is playfully encouraging.

Poor Na-bi doesn’t really need the encouragement, because she’s overpowered by Jae-un at every turn, even when she knows better. Their chemistry is ridiculous (how did they cast this drama!), and while Jae-un has a lot of question marks hovering around him, it’s not hard to see why Na-bi can’t seem to keep her head on straight around him.

Jae-un’s marked interest was one thing, but his propensity to touch Na-bi is another thing entirely, and it’s as if each time she falls deeper under his spell. In fact, there has probably been more skinship in this drama than in all of our 2021 drama combined — and that’s thanks to all the shoulder touching, head patting, lip brushing, waist holding, and more. And let’s not forget when Jae-un takes Na-bi’s wrists and gently pulls her arms around his neck.

But I’m torn on Jae-un. While I can see the swooniness for sure, and feel it at times, too, I’m also losing patience for him. In real life, he would have gotten an elbow in the stomach at this point. He’s all games — the meaningful glances and skinship and phone calls and inordinate attention don’t feel like a guy who’s smitten, but one who has set a master plan in motion. And the fact that Na-bi half notices this makes it all the more disturbing.

Na-bi goes back and forth all episode long between melting in his presence, and trying to distance herself and ice him out, even just a little bit. This happens on repeat, in a way that’s not at all repetitive, but instead incredibly true to life on how it works when you’re neck-deep in a crush and trying to decide what the other person is really feeling. The drama’s strongest example of this is about halfway through the episode, when Na-bi has a racy dream (hello 19 rating) where Jae-un turns up at her door and the two go at it in intimate detail. (Is this a K-drama I’m watching?!)

The morning after this dream, Na-bi is embarrassed by her own desires and shrinks back from Jae-un when he approaches her in class. Then, that same morning, she gets her period mid-class, and has to slip out and try to go home and change before the situation gets worse.

Before she gets far, Jae-un follows her out, and intuitive being that he is, understands what’s wrong right away, and gives her his shirt to tie around her waist. I might have wanted to slap him for most of the scenes leading up to this one, but yeah, who can deny this gesture? Na-bi sure can’t.

It only gets worse when Na-bi goes out drinking with a group of friends, solely because Jae-un is supposed to be there. Her ups and downs continue, feeling the tension of the room alter when he walks in, but at the same time seeing how he treats the other girls there; Na-bi remains in her hellish limbo.

The thing that makes this internal tension for Na-bi compelling is the direct contrast between her narration, which seems to exist outside of (or after) the story we are watching. For instance, during the drinks and game of spin the bottle (ugh), narrator Na-bi says that night was the perfect opportunity for her to put her feelings to rest. But instead… well, we see how it plays out. Even though Na-bi knows that Jae-un was just fooling around with another girl moments before, she kisses him, and he kisses her back. And with that, narrator Na-bi tells us, the gates of hell were opened.

Everything about this drama is not a K-drama, but I can’t tell if I’m refreshed by this, or about to click my heels three times and wish myself back to the much safer, happier world of My Roommate is a Gumiho. The only things that remind me that this is a K-drama are: the fantastic sets (particularly Na-bi’s apartment), and the overt PPL in this episode (I counted four instances, but I’m sure I missed some).

While I’m finding the drama really well-executed — from the cinematography to the all-too-realistic scenarios, I also don’t leave it feeling very good. We know Na-bi is in for it big time. Like a moth butterfly to the flame our heroine doth go.

But a step beyond that, it’s the story that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Am I too old to care about the flirtations and sexual exploration amongst college students? Or is it just the uneasy tone this drama takes, leaving us breathless one second, and then a little queasy the next. Surely that’s the intention, so whether I’m enjoying the story or not, I can’t say this “hyper-real” genre isn’t working.

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I'm with Missvictrix on this all the way. There's a horrible familiarity with all the emotions these girls are going through. I'm not so old that I don't remember that terrible sinking feeling you got when you are completely hooked on a man who makes you feel as if your bones are melting, but at the same time is so gorgeous you feel he MUST be a player, because he MUST have so many chances because there are loads of women who are MUCH prettier. But I fell in love forever with a man just like that, and we are married now. So hope this happens for Na Bi too. Mind you, I did have a little trouble reconciling myself to Na Bi after her brilliant performance as the wife-stealer in "A Couples' World".......

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While I am not familiar with the feeling of being hooked on someone, I can understand the intensity of the emotion, and even empathize, to some extent. I do wonder what it's like to feel that way about someone though.

It's so sweet that you found your person. As for Na Bi, I want to root for her, but I also want her to run very fast in the other direction, because Jae Eun is sketchy as fuzzballs.

Han So Hee, the actress playing Na Bi, is doing such a great job. I hated her character in The World of the Married, but her current character has me wanting to protect her from bad decisions and a bad guy, and possibly shake her so hard that her teeth rattle, in order for her to snap out of it.

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In the minority of people who had no problem with her kissing him after the girl... People it's lust plus attraction at play, put all your ewws some place else it's note a "would you?" but a "is it possible to be that drawn to a person?" the answer is yes

But on a serious note he just said the girl wanted to play the game too and then asked her(nabi) if she wanted to play too... And to me by kiing him she said yes...

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Poor girl is in for a world of heartbreak. I'm interested if we will ever hear from his perspective or if it will continue to be from hers. It makes the story a bit one sided and she is a bit of an unreliable narrator. I guess this is her story though.

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I do t feel sorry for her though. She knows what she is getting into. And also I hate the narrative ‘oohh I can change him’! Girl! it’s not your job to fix an asshole.

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I understand not feeling bad for her, but my dude is working overtime to draw her in. I think she tried revisiting, but he keeps pulling her back. So she has a little of my empathy, but I do feel your perspective. Ha, run Na Bi, run.

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She tried resisting not revisiting, d'oh.

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this is what sounds unrealistic for me in this story, because real life players don't put so much energy in only one girl, they give signs all the time that they have little time for you...so it sounds misleading...

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Maybe that’s how he is like with every girl he is interested in? We haven’t seen his POV as yet

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I've been curious as to his pov, but I guess it ups the tension not to have it.

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I expect the dude is in for more heartbreak than her. He's 'the boy who cried wolf', when he experiences genuine feelings nobody's going to believe him.

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We'll likely continue to see the story from her POV, but I do think we the viewers might gain some insight as to who Jae Eun is regardless. He seems like the sort of person who's secretly afraid of heartbreak, or being alone, which is why he flits from girl to girl, like a butterfly. Maybe he loved someone in the past and got hurt. Or maybe I just want him not to be a bad guy 🤷🏾‍♀️

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Even if he is a guy who wants to date a host of girls at a time, he’s can still not be a bad guy - but for Na Bi, who probably wants a much more attentive and exclusive partner, he very well could FEEL like a bad guy.

(If he leads her on while promising her something he never plans to deliver, though - that’s an obvious bad guy!)

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Well said. I like how you described it: 'he very well could FEEL like a bad guy.' Because the story is being told from her point of view and so it's about how she sees him. Looking forward to seeing how their dynamic plays out in later episodes.

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It would be awesome if we got a second season that was from his POV.

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That would be great. Reminds me of the movie, The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby, which has two versions, Her and Him, in which the story in each movie is told in the perspective of the female and male lead respectively.

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This one isn’t going to be an easy watch, but at least it’s a pretty realistic watch so far. I haven’t seen the webtoon but eek, this relationship is familiar. The weird thing is that you never truly know where it will go (though this foreshadowing implies it’ll be a learning relationship, not the start of a marriage). Na Bi is doing ALL the right things here, right up until she does the thing that feels good but might burn her later, and that’s also a universal pattern.

I don’t think Jae Eun is gaslighting her here, but the opposite is just as effective: if he tells her the truth of what he’s doing, and indicates he’s all right with it and she can join as long as she’s cool with it too, she probably will try. And it takes a while to realize that you’re not uncomfortable because this is a new way to have a relationship; you’re uncomfortable because YOU don’t LIKE this type of relationship. You were open, you tried it, and decided it’s not for you. But it takes a while to get there, and it’s a better thing to arrive at alone in your own head, opposed to slowly figuring it out over a series of relationship fights.

Certainly it’s capturing all the right beats though! And I appreciate the sexiness, here it’s appropriate.

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I'm totally with you on this.

Him being open about his ways is just as frustrating (potentially more so for us viewers) because now there is no 'villain'. She is a willing particapant in his game.

I'm all for exploring in life and to make mistakes along the way. How else are you going to learn more about your own boundaries? To go out of ones comfort zone takes courage. Sometimes that courage is rewarded and sometimes you learn: yeah, well this experience isn't for me. You won't repeat the same mistake twice.

I find it super exciting to see a 'Kdrama' explore this topic in such a realistic way. Even american shows don't do that. Yes, on HBO an Co. there's lots of sex but the way this show creates intimacy actually feels very remiscant of other Kdramas.

The only difference being that it's not romaticised. We are uncomfortable with how comfortable our leads are with this intimacy.

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That’s a great point. Kdramas always feel a little surreal in that most characters approach romance like they’re mentally (and physically) twelve years old, but somehow that means that Nevertheless’ realistic-but-not-unusual depiction feels very grounded. The kdrama wrapper is somehow making the racier bits feel tempered.

The camerawork in this show is insane, by the way. I love the unusual framing and the way the camera is providing it’s own breathless, hyperfocused narrative.

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Yep, it's everything but K-drama.
It can be refreshing because we may never see a truck of doom or well, accidental kisses. We finally 'given' by dramaland and its gods a chance to take a peek of realistic college world.
But on the same time, I'm wondering, where is this going? What is the real story? Is it really a 10 episodes of a phase of Nabi's life? A slice of Nabi's life? Or is there some more? I'm curious, that's why I'm sticking.
I know my 20s has disappeared but I never forget how it was. Being 20s and in college. Nabi, her everything, including her coming doom, is believeable.

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Well, even Casanova might be impressed with Jae-un's ability to seduce. Not even the traces of the lipstick of the girl he just kissed are enough for Na-bi to draw a line.
I just hope the story is not all about the girl living through the agony of an uncertain and unfulfilling relationship. Why is he pursuing her so much, putting her above all the other girls who would be happy to play the game, as he puts it? Could she be his Achilles heel?

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As to why he's pursuing her so much...isn't it because he's obsessed with butterflies? He's drawn to her because of her name. Of course, this could just be a temporary fixation (although we all hope it's not lol). Hopeless romantics will argue that she may be the one to finally change his ways because of her connection to butterflies.

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It could be just the excitement of the chase that drives him, although she does not strike me as terribly hard to get. The previous kiss attempts were mostly interrupted through outside interferences (must mobiles be answered in all circumstances?).
Now that he is about to score, will he be all cold towards her? Is that a story worth telling over the remaining 8 episodes?

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Dude’s a walking talking STD. I don’t understand her. Specially after that lipstick wiping scene. And it’s not like all she feels is lust towards him. She is clearly wanting to date and him not to much.

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Seriously, in the best of times, ewww. But in pandemic times? no, no, no, no, no, no.

Anyways, I'm dropping this because I don't need to watch pain.

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😂

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I wish I could drop it. I am already in too deep with this drama though lol. Everyone here is a masochist...we know what we are in for (heartbreak) and yet...we just can't stop watching lol.

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I think Na Bi wants proximity to him. He’s intoxicating, and she’s aware of that but also still thinking that she will know when to put down her glass and go back to water. Still an open question as to whether that’s true.

Meeting someone with a completely different value system is disorienting, especially if there’s chemistry. You question your own boundaries because this other person clearly has totally different standards and is fine, so are your boundaries really that sensible? You might roll with it for a while - think polyamory or open relationships for somewhat extreme examples. But for many people there’s a clarifying moment where the “you” you’d have to be to continue this relationship is causing you more agony than the thought of giving up the relationship. I suspect that’s the arc of this show. You can like or love someone, but know that the way you live your lives make you incompatible.

I’ve used to think the “I’ll protect you” phrase that crops up in k-dramas as an “I love you” substitute is interesting. When push comes to shove, will Jae Eun protect Na Bi in the way she’s willing to protect him? Or will she realize that her place in his priority matrix isn’t enough for her?

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I don't get it as well. She was smart enough to back off in the past when she saw the red flags. Hence when she's been hesitating eventho the invitation is clear and there is definite attraction. BUT she saw him kids another girl and directly after throw all caution aside? Eh?

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She said YOLO. The heart wants what it wants, OK? lol

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MOST literary fiction of 'doomed' romance swings on that.
The heart wants what it wants.

A good Kdrama shows you sense and doles out 'therapy' ... how to cut through the bull and the clutter when it's time to make choices for long term stability.

Think Record of Youth / One Spring Night / Because This is my First Life / My Private Life etc

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I was flailing when she leaned in to kiss him. Noooooo. He keeps cheating he's going to wake up one morning and find me standing over him with my scissors, I'm not joking. Snip.

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The scary thing with relationships like this is that he’s not cheating. He’s completely upfront about what’s happening, and is telling her that going in, so even though she may later feel outraged at his behavior… Well, he told you. You knew. You just thought something would change. And it didn’t.

These relationships aren’t all bad, by the way. I had one with a guy very much like this, but I had enough of a handle on it that I never expected more and was just as upfront with him as he was with me, and told him that as soon as I felt it was hurting more than it was enjoyable, I’d tap out. No tears or recriminations, just an understanding this was the end of the line. He was VERY surprised when that actually happened, I have to say - couldn’t quite get over that I wasn’t ending it with him in favor of another guy, but just breaking it off with him because I’d realized I don’t like that style of relationship. He was floored.

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Is he cheating if they are not in a “relationship”, and he has made it clear he will not be in a “committed relationship”?

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He is definitely not cheating but she definitely wants to have a relationship with him.

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I like films and dramas that make you squirm uncomfortably in your seat. This indiscriminate charmer is so much more interesting than the usual taciturn chaebol heir that we've gotten for male leads most of the time. He's less 'threatening' than, for instance, the philandering golfer David Lee in 'Misty'. Nobody thinks he's actually going to harm her physically. If the piece needs a villain I predict the professor ex-boyfriend is going to make a return, in much the same way the ex showed up in Mad For Each Other.

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Innocent Guy (aka Nice Guy) had many complex vibes where the protagonists are playing off each other for many reasons .. partly physical attraction and partly revenge motive stemming from hurt and betrayal.

Yes so much more fun to watch them swing between fuzzy emotions and navigate them

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Definitely a part of me wanted to tell Nabi to walk away, but, I'm not as put off by the kiss scene as some. Not something that would be ok for me, but if Nabi is fine with it .....well go for it.
It does seem like she is looking for something deeper than just fun but other times she seems very aware of who he probably is.

Also, love Sol and am glad to see her love might not be as one sided as it first seemed.

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I do like Sol too and I am so glad the other one feels the same (or so it seems!)

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I knew the show had a 19+ rating going in, but I did NOT expect that level of action. Thank god I decided to watch it by myself.

The show does feel awfully familiar to real life. I’ve had to deal with friends in similar situations with guys who were definitely not up to any good. Thankfully, most (not all unfortunately) got out of it before it went too far. I hope that’s the case for Na-bi as well, but judging by her narration and how the story is going, I fear for her. Jae-un is a walking red flag. At least Song Kang and Han So-hee have fantastic chemistry.

Also, is it just me or are there sapphic undertones between Na-bi’s friends Ji-wan and Sol? Or am I delusion and reading too much into a platonic friendship?

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I got it from Ji Wan to Sol. Sol to Jo Wan, not so much. And Jae Eun is going to be quite the learning experience, but not necessarily a bad one - possibly a maturing one.

When I dated a guy like this, at the end of it I didn’t regret it, even though I was the one to end it. I easily could have regretted if I’d had different expectations. So it depends on whether Na Bi deludes herself into thinking Jae Eun might reform, or if she is able to differentiate between her values and hit and eventually decide that gap is too big to bridge.

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I thought the same about Ji-wan and Sol. Or, should I say, I got the feeling that Sol has a thing for Ji-wan, and the guy she spilled her drink on in episode one is a red herring.

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Ah. I see it now 😅. Ji-wan seems to feel something for Sol without realizing it.

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I would like to know more the characters because until now it's just Nabi and her attraction for a bad boy. The whole story is about this and kinda limited. We haven't seen the second leads yet.

For the kiss at the end, I think it was the same as the cigarette scene, Nabi wanted to win over the other girl.

I'm interested by the story of the 2 friends, Yoon-Sol and Seo Ji-Wan. SJW looked like she didn't like that Yoon-Sol could find their friend funny or have a friend she doesn't know about. Yoon-Sol hid the fact she could leave for Europe and doesn't seem motivate to leave SJW. But I like coffee boy! I hope he won't end up in their mess :p

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Sol and Ji-Wan friendship does seems interesting.

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Is that what we are calling it? Lol, they clearly like each other but haven't admitted it yet. I feel like coffee boy is a fake out or the push they need to get together.

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It's hard to say for sure now. There are friends who can be pretty possessive too. It's Ji-Wan who wants to go on blind dates, she's not pushed to do it by her family. But it would be a nice change in Kdrama world!

Both characters were added in the story by the drama writer, so we will see :)

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I should have written relationship. But since its not official yet I took a leeway. Hopefully these two will bring some cuteness in the show. ^_^

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Fair enough and to your point they are actually friends.

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Her ex kept attaching meaning to everything and then Jae-un is someone who attaches meaning to nothing. That is seemingly the only difference between the two.
I agree on Bit-Na. Something about her hints as if she is enjoying this a little too much.
He touches her a lot. Super uncomfortable. I get flirting but why invade the personal space so much?
Nabi had said something similiar in the first episode - The one who tries to chase the butterfly loses it, and the when that silently waits for it gets it. I think that is how the things will play out.
In a brief sentence I think we were introduced with our second lead - that friend who is cold to girls. But will he be the same guy who asked Sol to meet him?
I knew it was a dream but wasn't it too coherent and orderly for a dream? Lol.
Is the drama fully sticking to the manga as of yet?

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They have added some scenes or reordered them (the bar scene in episode 1 was where we got the club scene in episode 2 and that one was new, for example - she first meets him at the group outing with Bitna). All of the important points (sucky bf, cigarette temptation, period, kiss after lipstick wipe,...) are the same. Jeaeon felt a little less touchy-feely in the webtoon, but that may just be the transition between mediums. The overall mood of the story is most definetly the same.

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If that is the case then I guess we will be seeing some bad choices being made in future too.

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The dream sequence is also something that was added in the drama that wasn't in the webtoon! (The webtoon, ironically, has a 15-rating.)

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Hmm.....Now was that scene necessary? Was that the clickbait for episode 2? Or was it meant to show NaBi's subconcious telling what it exactly wants. But don't we already know that.

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Welcome to Netflix.

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@Bob Lol. Ah the answer was simple.

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The irony on the other side is that Na-bi was already a smoker in the webtoon (I can't remember if she'd/was trying to quit and gotten back into it courtesy of Jae-un, or was just a steady smoker throughout), but in the drama, they took that part away from her character (and of course Korean television doesn't allow an actual depiction of cigarette-smoking to be shown on screen).

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That I think is just to make her seem more innocent. Maybe she will turn a smoker by the end. Lol.

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Bit Na is a terrible friend. She makes NaBi spend money on her supplies, gives terrible advices, obviously holds back some information on her friend's crush and tries to get said friend to start smoking.

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People like that are scary. I just sus everyone in this drama. Even for that Office Secretary guy that recieves packages - I keep thinking he is a serial killer by night. Lol.

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Who, from that party, was kissing Jae-un? There aren't too many candidates and we can immediately strike two from the list

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I think it was one of the JaeUn's classmate.

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I don’t think I can watch this....I agree all the way with @missvictrix I like how well it’s made but it leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth (that’s the whole intention I know and that makes it a superbly made drama), very uneasy and in a terrible psycho state that I do not appreciate as it makes me anxious and keeps me that way for a long time (bravo drama, i know that’s what you were aiming for). I usually watch my dramas to feel good, or at least not feel uneasy and not feel anxious about me being a woman. College and just sexual tension, sad sack of a woman and a terrible terrible fuckboi just did not make it a very enjoyable watch for me, and I don’t think it’s because I am in my thirties, it’s the genre and the angles and the topic and the tone.

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I agree @missvictrix. This has a bad aftertaste. Na-bi is damaged from the previous degrading relationship, and I suspect she's drawn to the honey pot for more reasons than his seductive gorgeousness. In her words, he's nice to her, but in truth, she needs to be reaffirmed after the previous relationship. It's not only and simply lust and intoxication. It may also be repairing one's shattered ego by 'getting' the guy every other woman wants. That explains the smoke and the kiss. If she risks all and wins him, she's playing as much of a game as he is. It feels like narcissism to me. But it makes me want to ask, is this what feminism has won for women? I want to know where her core self is. Her voice is so weak. She walks around with her eyes cast down. She seems so abject. But then is she also teasing in what seems like a sly way? Her pushing him away seems half hearted and, at the very least, ineffective. If she really wanted to protect herself, she'd treat him the way she treated the gross guy at the dinner. One world for good looking players. Another world for gross unreconstructed insinuators. It's a stinky world. It tastes yukky.

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I believe that the whole "I can change him" and "I can make him a long term partner" mentality is deeply rooted in narcissism and a questionable hero complex. The guy lived one way for years, he has a built-in idealogy that is an essential part of who he currently is and you look at him and think "he just hasn't met me".

A few years ago, I would go on a few dates with guys who asked. I would be flirty and make sure that the date went well and we had fun. After that, I will never contact them again. I would always state in advance that I wasn't looking for relationships. Everyone STILL got disappointed, mad and deeply surprised that I simply didn't change after meeting them. I honestly never felt bad, because if someone ignores what you think or feel to such an extent then do you really even matter to them? I hate how much I see myself in Jae Eun. The guy with his looks could score without that much efforts. The fact that he goes this far means that he is looking for something more than simple sex, however, getting into relationships is still not something he can or want to handle.

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It's all about power imo: "If I can win him, I'll feel good about myself and if everyone envies me, so much the better." Kissing off another girl's lipstick is marking your territory.

Are we going to see her develop as a character? I hope so because I cannot stand her at the moment.

What you identify sounds right, but I'd like to know more about his point of view. Does it all mean so little to him? Does he feel so completely disregarded, as you express it, so how the other person feels is not worth considering? Or is he a Don Juan - insecure about his sexuality or a Casanova - who is actually hostile to women? At the moment I don't see him as either, but who knows where we'll end up. Perhaps they both in it to feel better about themselves because otherwise they'd feel as if they didn't exist? Oh what a hole I've dug. LOL

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I definitely hope we get his point of view! The one thing I noticed is how little he puts out about himself and how much he tenders to other's feelings on every occasion. All of his meetings with Na Bi are solely about Na Bi. She fell, she just broke up with someone, she gets harassed by her classmate, she is working on something - Jae Eun comes in, asks how she is doing and they have a brief talk about her issue. Jae Eun who comes in a relationship as a supportive, somewhat one layered character doesn't get attached to anyone because he never shares anything about himself.

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That's so right. He is mysterious. Do you know the webtoon? I don't but @leann wrote about it right at the beginning.
Don't read if you want to avoid spoilers.

https://www.dramabeans.com/2021/03/song-kang-and-han-so-hee-confirmed-for-new-drama/

If it stays true to that, he does have a back story.

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His sensitive/ high-EQ persona could just be a facade, something exclusively for Nabi to see, because he wants to get her laid. We don't really see him being this guy to others yet, so I still don't know if it's a part of his game, like a manipulation technique.

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This is in response to both @dramalover4ever and @nerdy! The webtoon never did show his pov--it was always filtered through Na-bi's eyes. But the drama may change that.

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I still don't get why a player like Jae-Won would put in half as much efforts as he does. Why? Because it would satisfy his ego of getting the girl who rejected him multiple times? Because he believes 'he's almost there?'... that she's unsure of the whole situation but would give in eventually?
Gosh. I need more insight into what goes inside that pretty head. So far, he's more intriguing to me as character than the FL for sure.

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It is a power issue as mentioned above. He wants what he wants. That is why he puts in effort. Once he captures it or her in this case. He can mount and preserve her memory like the taxidermist and their beautiful collection of dead butterflies.

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If he considers it all a game there's nothing more boring that a game that's too easy to win. Again, its like the playboy character in My Roommate Is A Gumiho,

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The overall tone of the drama is well executed and I am staying in its solely for that reason. I felt Na bi is a very under developed character. Just like few comments here I feel that the cig scene and the kiss was just her way of leaving her mark above everyone's on him. The whole situation is destined to be a doom and she is willingly participating in it. Although the superior feeling here is physical intimacy, I feel that Na bi expects it to take a more deeper relation eventually. Her narrative and perspectives are not original and I do wish we get POV from the JE's side too. There has been also hints that Na Bi has been affecting JE too. The scenes where her friend pointed that JE has never done few things before. So he do places NaBi above everyone but it's still where he stands in this relationship and what he expects from this relation or fooling around. I dont see this going in the normal "girl changes the bad boy and they lived happily ever after" trope, because that will completely destroy the show's vibe. And I love the fact that this show is making me uncomfortable and anxious while watching which means something is working.
I will stay on this if only to see if we are ever gonna get JE's side of story.

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Absolutely! JE's intentions are still a mystery to us. If he's genuinely interested in her or his sweetness/ attention is only just a facade to get Na-Bi into his bed? Sadly, unless they give us his PoV, we will never know. And from what I know of the webtoon, we don't get one. :/ :/

I think the story goes midway. It's neither the: 'naive girl changes the playboy' extreme, nor the 'playboy is secretly a master manipulator, and borderline evil trying to trap innocent girls'. I think, JE's intrigued and curious about NB and somehow cares about her, but doesn't recognize the depth/ nature of his feelings. He just can't offer her what she needs- aka commitment. And this incapability is going to make them eventually go their separate paths. T_T

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I feel disturbed watching this drama. I don't find him swoonworthy at all. I find him creepy and touchy. I feel uneasy, and queasy, like @missvictrix. I find him, the drama, the draw, the attraction unsettling.

The "Want to go for a smoke?" lines. I've never heard so much mention of smoking before in a drama. There's smoke everywhere. There are clouds of smoke frozen in the air in the bars.

The racy dream. My thoughts went like this. He's wearing his jeans. Why's he wearing his jeans? Oh, he's climbed up on top and why's he wearing his jeans?

The inching-into-her-space scenes. My thoughts: Stop touching her. Stop touching her hair. Stop. Stop. Stop.

The kiss scene. Why's she kissing him? Doesn't he taste of the other girl? Ew.

And the worse thing? I see his lips everywhere. AFTER I finished the drama. Red and pillowy and puffy. I blame it on the close-ups.

Final thoughts: Eek! He's moving in. Again. Run, girl, run.

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Thanks to your comment I've now watched 3 minutes of this I wish I hadn't.

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I may stop soon. I can't take the close-ups and the physicality of the scenes. Because it makes me very conscious of my mouth, my eyes and my nose now. Even my toes. And my arms. And my wrist. And the back of my neck.

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I wanted to hand her a make up removing wipe, some common sense and a heavy dose of self esteem.

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I haven't watched this one, should I?

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@mmmmm I've really only watched about 3 minutes so I'm not a good person to ask. It was disturbing.

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I lasted 5.42 mins. But I might come back for an educational purpose.

Yes, it's really disturbing.

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YY did you have the name LT tattooed at the back of your neck?

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I think the incessant smoke symbolizes a haze of sorts, the cloud of illusion that Jae Eun puts up and the puffy daydream that Na Bi indulges in when she is with him. Her rose-colored glasses are literally distorting her senses and the lusty fervor she feels for him means that she is not seeing, let alone thinking clearly.

The other characters are also engulfed in smoke, the uncertainty of both life and relationships meaning they're all trying to find their way through the fog.

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@mewcrazy That is a great observation.

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The whole dream scene I was thinking about him wearing EXACTLY the same outfit as he did when leaving the university that day. I knew it was a dream because how else would he know about Na Bi's address, the question that bothered me was how Na Bi would have known about in what he was dressed that day.

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In regards to the clothes, I think they just made him wear the same ones so they could trick us into thinking it was real and not suspect it was a dream.

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In some way I feel ok because Na-Bi is not in the dark. It's not like she is falling for him or being attracted to him without knowing who or what he is.. She knows! That last scene - Yikes.. The lipstick was still on his lips.. yikes. yike..sss
If this is what she wants (just physical relationship), then I don't care. But if she is going to get her heart broken cos she wants a relationship, then girl, your exit was a few miles behind you.
Didn't you learn anything from you ex??

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She has this hardness on her face which comes on at moments which contrasts with her shyness and her vulnerability. That's why I believe she will do something terrible if he plays her in the end. Like cut off his willy and feed it to the cats. I have a very bad feeling about this and @ndlessjoie senses it too.

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Maybe she killed her ex (that breakup was too calm and short) and now is onto her next prey.

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@dumplings That would be an interesting twist!

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Lol. @yyishere 's imagination led me to this path.

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@dumplings So her ex is dead because she murdered him and the story is an illusion and she's imagined everything and the smoke and the white fog are the hints that we are in a dream and everything's not real. The butterfly tattoo was the last thing she saw on her ex's chest before she plunged the dagger into his cheating heart. What do you think?

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😅 .. I have nothing to say!

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Perfection. Everyday Nabi wakes up repeating all this in her head while vigurously painting butterflies. :D

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Now, this would be a more interesting plot. Our heroine turns out to be the apex predator, not the prey!

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Maybe they will change the ending after seeing this. Lol

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Potential Kotonoha-Katsura in the making? Lol... yandere-alert xD

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Lol. Or maybe in future she will be the leader of the Butterfly cult taking revenge against men like her ex.

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The story ends brutally. Are you ready? @dumplings @ndlessjoie @mmmmm

Nabi catches him cheating. She is about to scissor him right where he deserves, but "it" (the unmentionable) drops off from sheer overuse, captured beautifully in slo-mo, as it falls oh so, so, so s l o w l y and a sad song plays.
"Oh, crap," he whispers.
The end.

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I LOVE this ending! *claps hands vigorously* 😂 Can’t commend YY enough, she’s just so brilliant with her imagination I need @wishfultoki to witness this. YY should be recruited to our Bossam crew; she can deal with VP Lee.

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Tagging relationship expert Beans: @saturtledaisy @leetabang22 @manichan

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😂😂😂😂 And then Nabi switches her major and later teaches biology to high school boys spreading awareness on how they should not overuse it like Jae Un and her ex with some butterfly metaphors inserted.

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@dumplings Now I am imagining Nabi sweatily sculpturing a giant butterfly with a body that resembles his you-know-what.

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"cut off his willy and feed it to the cats."
@yyishere Oh, my!

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It could very well fall off on its own if he continues his merry cheating ways.

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Sorry, I called NaBi a "wife stealer" in the Couples World when I meant "husband-stealer".

I also wanted to add that I thought her first boyfriend making that highly personal sculpture of Nabi, and exhibiting it without any warning and WITHOUT PERMISSION was really shocking. I thought she should have taken an axe to it and shattered it. What appalling arrogance and how really cruel - did he REALLY think she would be flattered? Of course he didn't - she was just an object to him. I'm really hoping she isn't just a terrible judge of men...........

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I’m remind that he said he would not tell anyone about her accident like she wouldn’t tell anyone about of he had a b**** in class. So while she could be a horrible judge of men, I don’t think he would do something like that with out her permission, but I could be wrong

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Eh, but he thinks sleeping with a girl once gives him the license to trash-talk about her, to potential women, in alleyways, about them being 'clingy and obsessive.' Ew Jae-Won. I would run. You are a jackass.

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@jayton Excellent points! Might I add that he made sure to call her by name while she was near the sculpture. This put to rest the questions of why the piece was named "Na Bi" and completely humiliated her in front of everyone within earshot while simultaneously bolstering his sick ego. This moment felt like an assault and made me very uncomfortable.

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So agree …. a lot of emotional and sexual abuse is truly about humiliation of the victim. Na Bi’s ex appears to be a narcissistic sexual predator. Perhaps that the contrast to be portrayed…. vicious, narcissistic sexual predator versus someone who seems so afraid of his own emotions that everything must be kept superficial.

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@mom2kidsdog I felt that! She went from one extreme to the other. Jae Eun is the embodiment of a superficial fling, he's not offering her anything past the moment, but she's willing to jump in wholeheartedly.

Another point about her ex and the way he says her name is that it makes for a startling realization. As though we are at the exhibit putting the pieces together and hearing the name of the artwork addressed to a corporeal being. It's clever directing that maximizes the impact of the moment.

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Like others have said, I don’t think Jae Eun would ever physically hurt her or force her. We see multiple times where he backs off when she is not receptive or tells her he won’t do anything. It could be that because women fall at his feet the notion of force would never arise. I also feel that NaBi is different in that she is resisting him at first And to him this chase is a new game. That could be why he is doing things he has never done cause he is intrigued by her. Also I don’t think he intentionally hurts his lovers . In his mind they know who he is and what being with him entails so that absolves him of any blame. That is not to say they don’t get hurt emotionally and NaBi is heading the same way but she initiated that kiss and anything that happens is on her.

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Hmm, yes! She has rejected him multiple times before, and not so convincingly, lol. He still thinks a tiny bit of effort will land her in his bed. He hopes for a payout, hence he's still being available, screwing over 'sure-deals' just to be around her. She too double-takes on her stand to stay away, the moment JE does something sweet for her. It's a toxic cycle.

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The cleverly shot scene of J supposedly kissing a girl behind the wall was a perception of Nb as much as most viewers. Whether J romped is perceived or real, it remains convincing for Nb that J did kiss the girl.
Yet, her body couldn’t resist the harm his touches on her innocence. She wants and could not resist the tasty and tempting “chocolate lips”, even if it leads to cardiovascular failure.
A classic Eve and the “forbidden fruit” in perceived paradise.
The women will be divided over this.
Will Nb descend to hell for sleeping with him?

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Yeah, the ambiguity is captured really well. JE and his 'encounters' with women are *always* implied or talked about, and never explicitly shown. You could always continue to give him the benefit of doubt in that case. Continue to fool yourself, even when the truth is blatantly staring at you, in the face.
And mirroring Na-Bi's stand, you keep wavering on what you think of JE in that instant. It effectively reinforces her PoV, gives her narration some credibility, evokes ample of empathy and sympathy from the viewers as your heart breaks along with hers, even though she's a very unreliable narrator.

The direction of this drama is on the level of cinema-making.

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I most likely won't watch past episode two because this isn't my sort of drama. Here is my opinion on the current situation: Na Bi is not a victim. She is very aware of the sort of "relationship" that Jae-un is seeking from her; he has never indicated otherwise. Also, Bit Na informed Na Bi of Jae-un's reputation for being a womanizer. Na Bi has also received visual conformation of this fact i.e. the woman coming out from the club with the butterfly drawing on her arm and the woman he was kissing outside her home. Her inner thoughts also confirm her belief that he is not the right man for her. Sigh.....

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I don't know why this thought occurred to me "he knows her for sure ; he was at that art exhibit or he knows her ex and God knows what that scum of a human being has told him or even did worse "

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Now this is another angle I haven’t thought about. Bit na did mentioned that Jae Eun really wanted to meet her even when Na bi doesn’t really know about him.
If that is true, this will be more effed up than it already is!

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I couldn't get this thought out of my mind especially since we didn't get to see anyone's face at the beginning of EP1 and that scene when she entered the exhibition and heard those guys talking , I can't shake that idea off because of all these details.

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So it's going to be this cycle, huh? Jae-Won invades her head-space by doing something sweet, she swoons and questions her sanity, but then spots his multiple red-flags and freezes him out. He pouts a little and puts her on ignore. They meet in public and he throws her a few crumbs again or provokes her, and she is a goner for him again. Rinse and repeat. Okay. I know how it works. It's so toxic already, I have been there. You keep waiting for these crumbs of attention or sweet gestures being thrown at you. Keep waiting for their messages and hyper-analyzing their last-seens. Depending on how their night goes, the messages could be monosyllabic or very verbose. You want all those sweet things to be true SO badly. Has anybody here been an addict? You need to get tiny bits of it into your system, or it's absolute hell. The moment you give in, it's euphoric! [former nicotine-addict because of this one 'Jae-Won' in my life.] You would do questionably hilarious things, just to catch their eye, or even find some common-ground with them: like smoking in the alleyways or rooftops.....
Man. I feel for Nabi. Objectively speaking, the fact that he can gaslight a girl SO bad, that she wipes off a potential competition's lipstick off his lips and proceeds to kiss the shit out of him....definitely indicates his mind-games are powerful. It's next to impossible to escape unscathed, with a lethal face like Jae-Won's and tricks like those. Damn.

I'm loving the whole psychological-angle to this show. We don't yet know why Jae-Won is doing what he is. We have a good idea, but we will never be sure if Na-Bi ever meant anything special to him, because we won't be getting his PoV (atleast from the webtoon, b/c it was very short). And the fact that Nabi is a terribly unreliable narrator, leaves us hanging at the end of 10 eps, because we will NEVER know. This script, is Rashomon Effect 101. I cannot fathom a show about casual-dating and shallow relationships will be incorporating such a masterful narrative technique. The foundation for it has already been setup in the first two episodes. Kudos to the production-team for taking this route. They have done an impeccable job keeping the cinematography and color-grading compatible with the vibes of the show. ^^

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Some Bonus points I don't see mentioned here in the comments above:
-Jae-Won mentioning boners in the same act of comforting Nabi on the first day of her period. makes me want to puke in a trashcan.

-Na-Bi seems like the type to who isn't very confrontational but at the same time, picks her battles to fight. She calls him out on the club-girl's butterfly tattoo. But the moment he calls the girl 'delusional, clingy and a bit obsessed' cheeses off Nabi SO bad, she exits. I STAN this queen. I'm SO happy she doesn't recognize trash-talking another woman (even a potential-competition) as mildly flattering. But I also know so many women do. Girls, please realize- 'you are not like other girls'... is NOT a compliment. EW.

-33 minutes into the show, there is the trans-flag painted outside the Laundromat. There is also a scooter painted in those very colors. Great low-key detail for pride-month. And for a homophobic country.

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"She calls him out on the club-girl's butterfly tattoo. But the moment he calls the girl 'delusional, clingy and a bit obsessed' cheeses off Nabi SO bad, she exits."
I also appreciated that moment :)

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That dialogue about the boner comparison was SO weird. was that in the webtoon? I was like ??????

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It's nice not knowing where this show is going. Is this a story about a naive girl who has an attraction for controlling men? Maybe she's mostly trying to prove something to herself? Will she learn something from this? Is it about a jerk being reformed by true love? I hope not because there's too many of this kind already on dramaland.

The guy gives me Valmont vibes, he is not interested in her, not yet, he's too calculated for that, it is a game and he is stalking prey. When the girl falls for him it seems he looses interest, if that's true he is not a player, he's just a weak man with self esteem issues. The fact he is honest about not wanting any commitment is part of the charade, he chooses targets who will accept this as a challenge, not an honest trait of character.

I liked Bit-na and her speech about Jae-un, she gave her honest opinion but left when it was Na-bi turn to make her own choice.

The kiss was icky but very much in character, she did the same with the cigarette. When he threatens to give something to another woman she feels the need to pull him back. As a good manipulator he knows when to pretend to be playing with others or hurt by her attempts at keeping distance, as if they were coldness . She is also playing a game, but hers is perhaps unconscious. She was humiliated by previous bf, she is also trying to get control, over herself, others and what others think. He knows some part of his attraction is putting himself out of reach, on a pedestal, and she feels if she can get that prize this will say something about her.

Some details could have been better. The dream scene felt a little like a cheap attempt at being racy for kdramaland standards. Dreams are seldom that true to reality. The period thing, she's twenty, she wouldn't use her bag as a shield or pull the sweater down, she would just use her own hoodie and tie it up her waist herself, she's not an idiot.

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K-drama Characters always forget they're wearing hoodies. So many characters standing in the rain in a dramatic scene, not thinking to flip the hood up for protection.

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There is no logic in k-dramas lol

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Reasonables don't exist in dramaland. That's why we're sticking to it 😂

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I predict the villain professor will make an appearance, Jae-un's protective instincts will emerge (they've already been seen at the bar) and that will change his attitude towards Na-bi. We've only got ten episodes in this series so they can't afford the usual mid-season filler episodes.

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Having been through a relationship where the guy was not nearly as truthful as Jae Eun, but sent subtle, almost unreadable signals instead, I have to say I appreciate Jae Eun’s forthrightness. If Na Bi has been forewarned (unfortunately I wasn’t, so I appreciate Na Bi’s girlfriend as well), I feel she is mature enough to take a dangerous path. Nevertheless, I think both these leads will be resisting their feelings mightily later in the series to great damage to their relationship. We will then see if the damage can be repaired.

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Also, by the sculpture in the first episode, it is clear that Na Bi was in a very sexual relationship with her ex boyfriend wherein she invested / exposed a lot of her emotions. Is her turning to Jae Eun really about trying to change him, or to find out more about herself, and whether she would be better off in an intimate relationship without investing any emotions? Is she capable of such a relationship? I think these are the questions she is asking herself. I am cheering for Na Bi’s self-evaluation and hoping for her maturation.

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I also think that Na-bi is wanting to explore more about herself, men, her taste in men, her limit and everything. One line that stood out to me is from Bit-na when she tried to warn Nabi about her choice to go deeper with Jae-eun: She (Nabi) can't be casual (in a relationship.) I'm willing to see where this road will lead her to.

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I re-watched episode 1 and 2, as I find this series quite fascinating.

There were several metaphors: 1) In the dart game, NB misses target, then hits the target with JE’s help, and then completely misses her third chance - a metaphor for NB’s romantic future? 2) with Bit Na in studio: Bit Na says NB needs assistant for her ‘exhibit’ (1st ‘exhibit’ of NB was very SEXUAL), then BN says NB might be first in class to do it ‘alone’; 3) she is never truly honest with JE, constantly telling little white lies: never met him before, not looking for anything for her friend, bit her tongue: this is how the relationship will proceed? 4) she wipes lipstick from his lips: Will she erase all other women for him? She will be only woman on his lips?

Am I wrong?

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I started confused and still am while watching this drama, but then again we should never forget its title; "Nevertheless". In spite of knowing the red flags the guy sends off, she still plays with fire. Now with that mindset let's just see where this exploration goes to.

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YESSSS!!!

I started watching Kdrama when I was introduced to this world by a friend ..

At first I was like "Ugh .. what's with the cheesy Title Track and opening credit sequences .. the Cherry Blossom petals falling .. etc etc .. the sugary OST .. yes
One Spring Night was my first show

But soon I was whipped into its vortex ..

So after a year plus of living in isolation - lockdown - socially distanced and bingewatching Kdrama .. I am some 100 plus Kdramas old .. and thus when I see a fresh treatment .. and new style my eyes pop ..

I think people who have as much experience "in number of shows watched" will agree that Nevertheless is "refreshing - new - different - thought provoking" a territory you will confidently enter and explore and be excited because it pushed some boundaries WHILE STILL retaining its KDRAMA soul and heart.

It's NOT 'American' or 'Western' in its treatment ..
KUDOS to be able to pull that off.

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I have never dated but I have experienced the butterflies. A lot of the time it was once sided. I have cried by myself on the death of my one-sided crush when boy A got back with his ex, when boy B got married, when boy C got a girlfriend and so on. I have also experienced the curiosity of wanting to be wanted. my first kiss with a boy was unexpected. it wasn't all that but I felt glad to experience what other girls had experienced I guess waaaaay earlier than I did. I was 23. almost turning 24 when I had my first and last kiss. I am 31 now and i am basically what they call in Kdramaland Motae Solo. I am not ashamed, I am just trying to be comfortable with myself before I can be comfortable with someone else. but not everyone is like me. there are people who want or crave validation from others. seems like Nabi is that kind of person. she is easily swayed. I have had several friends who have obsessed about a dude that wasn't good for them just the way Nabi is doing. I know it looks unrealistic or whatever, but trust me, stuff like this happens. Jae-Un makes me uneasy a little uneasy. I know he doesn't want a relationship and to be honest, we don't really know much yet. I guess we'll see how it goes. someone said real life players don't put all their energy into one girl. lol. i think we need to realize that life is not black and white. There is no one way to behave. i realize that sometimes we expect a certain reaction but everybody is different. just because you will not react a certain way or just because everyone you know would react a certain way does not mean that someone who reacted a different way is not normal. what exactly is normal? anyway, i squealed like a rat. lol. it was fun, it was cringe, it was wild. not bad in my opinion.

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Thanks for sharing your honest feelings and experience .. I am loving this thread for these outpourings of real life by viewers.

Incredible!

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Given the amount of comments this show has generated it's definitely moving people strongly and most importantly making people recognise their own stories in it .. Amazing when a Kdrama does that .. Haven't seen too many comments of shows where the writers are sharing their own experiences right after watching a show.

Not what many viewers come to Kdrama for .. BUT many do ;-p

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Girl. While risking sounding like a total douche:
Get in, get off, get out.
Get him out of your system and move on.
He ain't changing for you. Take him for a ride and jump on another carousel. I liked the sweet guy at the restaurant, wasn't that the athlete from Run On? I also have this thing for coffee guy, but he's probably a red herring.

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