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Open Thread #715

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Little Boy - 4115k this week. 4175k 19th of July

Heat Wave - Hot . ohh. 37-41 is alright. You can do that but then went all the way the cross 45 and then meet 47 to handshake 49.5 is too much. This surely is climate change for you.
In 2020 i had talked about the what if of " no electricity, no water, no food for the day" scenario and it would have wrecked havoc if chosen a day from heat wave weeks.
There was some member commenting from van cover - active? aka survived aka still alive!!?

I'm Alive - had few few trouble days because of my own challenges but today moved forward with much rigour. 2021 one of the work done. Still need to change a lot.

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Checked twitter and there was The Telegraph's latest trending news of a region aka a small city of Pakistan with population of 200k that was seeing temperature above 50. ohhhh. normal for that place.

Number of people that are no more because of heat wave need to be analysed. I still remember 2003-04-05 Europe heat wave that had caused lot of human damage.

As for the 3rd - skirts should become new normal for guys too.

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Petition for Skirts for boys sent.

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As more gender fluidity will enter the society, this would be the new normal. How nice.

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The Burning Sun scandal is nearing its final stages. Military prosecutors are asking the court to sentence Seungri 5 years in prison for prostitution charges. He continues to deny the charges, even claiming that his texts were misconstrued because of an autocorrect feature. Yet, today, Dispatch published the full chat logs to destroy his assertions.

As for accusations that he enlisted in the military to avoid harsher penalties, Seungri stated, "They say I escaped into the military, but I had asked for an extension for enlistment due to needing to help with investigations. Even when I was left with only a week before enlistment, I underwent police investigations. I'm the person who wants to prove my innocence."

The military recently released its new position that it will not accept enlistees who are currently under civil criminal investigations. It will defer for a year enlistment while charges are pending. It seems the military officials do not want to deal with these types of cases and who could blame them?

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I was listening to a K-drama podcast a few months back where the women hosts commented that male celebrities caught in a scandal have the option of fleeing to the military then returning, acting mildly contrite, then resuming their careers. Female celebrities caught in a scandal have nowhere to turn to and no path to rehabilitation.

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Happy Friday and shout out to seeing Hyun Bin’s face today on Open Thread! Thank you, DB Staff 😍

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Hi beanies! Just dropping in quickly to tell everyone that I’m planning a BEANIE VIRTUAL ISLAND PANDEMIC PARTY (BVIPP) next weekend as so many kpop artists have come back this spring and summer! We’re kicking off next Friday! @waadmay @eazal will be my co-MC’s. So stop by the fan wall and see what new music you’ve been missing! ANYONE can contribute! So if your 2nd generation group just got back from military and killing it on the comeback shows, and you’ve fallen in love with them all over again, share your love! Or if your group broke up but all of them are putting out new music, share the love. Or if you’ve found a particularly apropos song to help you find your island swing during the pandemic, share that too! See you all next weekend!

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Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!

Not every week can be sunshine and rainbows, unfortunately. I started the week with a nasty stomach bug and did not sleep or eat much as a result.🤢

Around the same time my health insurance company informed me that they cannot pay my sick leave because my employer has not handed in the necessary paperwork and if I wanted to please call my employer to set things straight?😖 Frustrating under normal circumstances, but downright terrifying when your employer is one of the main reasons you are on sick leave with undiagnosed anxiety.😥

So my brave act this week was calling the social services at work for answers. It turns out that my employer pays 100% during first three months sick leave and 60% from then onwards. This means slightly more income and less taxes than my health insurance would give me, so a big silver lining in the end.💰

However, this means I cannot sever connections yet and that scares me. I also feel guilty for receiving money from them ‘until I am fully ready to resume my work there’, which will probably never happen. I simply have to keep repeating the paperwork and phone call process over and over, but even the social service workers did the bare minimum to fake empathy when I called this week, so there must be something toxic in the water at my workplace.😐

This is my last week without therapy, next Thursday I am meeting my psychiatrist and I hope that will officially start my road to better things!💪

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Hey Turtie! Hope you are better now. Also wishing you the best for therapy!

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Thank you, I am working on it!💪

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I hope the stomach bug is over at least! We’ve been suffering from one in our household and it is not fun at all.

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I read about your misfortune last OT! I hope you and your household are doing better now, it is indeed not a pleasant experience!😐

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We’re getting there - I seem to have recovered but it’s moved on to other members of the family now 😩

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I hope everyone gets well soon!

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Fighting!

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Thank you!💪

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Hi Turtie! So glad to read this. The stomach bug sounds awful, but overall you sound much better and stronger than before.
Keep going and at some point you will be able to walk away from that toxic place. yeah!!!!!

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I have had a few better weeks ever since sick leave started, but it is encouraging to read that it is visible to others as well!
'Keep going and at some point you will be able to walk away from that toxic place. yeah!!!!!' - I need to memorize this one, thank you!😘

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Maybe the better way to leave is to dance and skip and run with joy!!

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Just say "no" to the guilt. That guilt belongs to the toxic work environment, not to you. Wishing you a continued and full recovery.

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Easier said than done, but we are working on it! Thank you for the supportive message!

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I hope you recover well, both mentally and physically. Wishing you strength

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Thank you and good luck with the remainder of your internship! You are doing well!

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Aww, thank you.

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Hello Beanies!

I really want to watch more kdramas but for the last several months I've been stuck with Sisyphus. I had high hope with this drama, but after 9ish episodes I still don't know what I'm watching. The last drama that I finished was Stranger season 2. I enjoyed it but it's not as good as the first one.

Kdrama doesn't feel like it used to be. the production quality is getting better but it lost its 'magic'. It looks more and more like western (American/European) tv series. I miss romcom like coffee prince and melodrama like A Story of a Man.

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I had joked that the new series 'Monthy Magazine Home' felt really different from my (American) culture. There's something very Korean about the combination of toxic boss, forced work dinners, scrimping to buy a home with cash, and resourceful Candy heroines. Though 'Candy' is changing. She used to be in her early 20s fresh out of school, now she's mid-30s with a 10 year work resume.

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I quite like seeing older resourceful Candy heroines but I do like them to have SOMETHING to show for their years of hard work - eg Monthly Magazine Home she’s poor but she’s got friends and knows how to do her job (even if the hero won’t let her do it). I gave up on Hello, Me! early on because the heroine just seemed way too downtrodden in every respect (it may not have been accurate, I stopped watching).

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Instead of 'toxic' boss I should have called him a 'Tsundere' boss. That's become such a meme in Korea and Japan that you see middle-aged wives describing their husbands as Tsunderes.

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My favorite newest candy was the secretary in The Secret Life of My Secretary. I think it was the latest drama that I thoroughly enjoy and gave me old kdrama vibes

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Agree

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Hi Mano! If you're looking for good recent shows and liked Stranger and Story of a Man, I'd recommend Beyond Evil - it's excellent and has the same emphasis on character development that I personally find so compelling about the best Korean shows.

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The writer of Beyond Evil also wrote Mad Dog. I love Mad Dog, Thanks!

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I need to check out Mad Dog - I tend to follow screenwriters much more than actors or directors, and Beyond Evil was quite well written.

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Maybe you'll like Mad for Each Other as a nice romcom.

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I don't watch many Chinese dramas, because I think most of them suck, especially those made after around 2015 when the heavy censorship really started to kick in.

But for some reason I decided to watch A Rational Life on Netflix. It's not that great (but better than most Cm-dramas). But what struck me is that somehow they managed to sneak in almost every social ill currently endemic in China. Just a few:
The rampant discrimination against women in management positions, and in general.
The never ending pressure to get married before you are 30.
The 996 work hours (9 to 9, 6 days a week).
How it is nearly impossible for any woman over 30 to get a decent job.

Many other issues are mentioned - to the point where I wonder how some slipped past the Chinese censor. Not sure I would recommend this show - it's a bit long (34 episodes) - and has some dead space that I ended up fast-forwarding. But still a pretty accurate portrayal of corporate life in China these days.

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I read a rather detailed list of no-no's back in early 2019(?). Politics, obscenity/pornography, certain aspects of history that might incite ethnic animosity, taking too much liberty with accepted historical facts, feudalism superstition, excessive brutality, and things that might negatively affect underage people's mental heath were the main concerns. The "issues" in this drama aren't on the list.

Chinese government wants people to have more children. Recently there was a drama that was reported to work better than birth control showing the stress of raising children as well as serious negative effects of parental/school pressures on children. The drama's effects seem to clearly go against the government's policy preference yet it wasn't pulled.

I'm thinking because the censors are now under the Bureau of Propaganda, maybe they are taking a more global view on entertainment. Although a few state media articles criticized recent BL-based dramas, boatload of such adaptations was only paused a couple months, instead an outright ban like the one from 2017 until "The Guardian".

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I was actually surprised how accurately the portrayed the giant rift in attitudes between the younger and older generation, especially towards marriage, women working, and having kids.

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Vast majority of the cdramas we get outside of China in recent years seem to be produced for/by streaming platforms. The drama you mentioned sounds like it would be produced for a good ol' TV network then it got onto other outlets.

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I remember one joke from a C-drama. Beijing is the only city that lets drivers speed through red lights. Because the smog is usually so thick the traffic cameras can't read the license plate numbers.

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Just one anomaly from the drama was that they held some kind of sales event where they look at the stars. So I looked it up, and for that event to have worked they would have about a 5 day window each year. "Since the start of 2020, around 49,000 people have died in the cities of Beijing and Shanghai due to air pollution, according to a new study. ... Shanghai reportedly had worse concentrations of hazardous PM2. 5 particles than Beijing"

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Hello, Happy Friday! Can someone explain what the Fan Wall (every registered user seems to have one) is supposed to be for? Thank you.

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Anything really. Want to talk about a specific moment in a show? Put it on the fan wall. Want to share a song? Put it on the fan wall. Want recs or start a discussion on favorite tropes? Put it on the fan wall.

The only thing I'd suggest is being aware of spamming the wall. Just if you post 30 things at once it can be alot for the rest of us to scroll through.

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That’s really good advice 👍🏼

I think some people use the wall to hold photos/gifs/etc that they want to keep forever as memories of how much they loved a show.

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Got it, thank you! :)

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I’ve seen a lot of discussion lately about the age gap in My Roommate is a Gumiho, and I’m just wondering why some gigantic fantasy creature romance age gaps work and some don’t. For example, for me Roommate Gumiho and Goblin don’t work, but the age gap in My Girlfriend is a Gumiho doesn’t bother me. I don’t know if the difference is between the man/woman being the older one, or between living in the world vs being locked up for centuries so not world weary, or what. Maybe it just depends on if they’re presented on an equal-ish footing (eg In Hwayugi, Son O Gong is centuries older and super powerful but Samjang has power over him because of the bracelet she puts on him…and has never had a normal life anyway). Or is it just the age of the female character? Samjang/Son O Gong and Ji Eun Tak/Kim Shin are similar in lots of ways ….fated love, she has power over him through the bracelet/ability to see sword, she can see ghosts, she is all alone in the world but Samjang is not a high schooler so it’s more comfortable to watch.

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Latest episodes of 'My Roommate Is A Guniho' appears to be addressing the age gap... and the fact that he's not a human but a beast in human form. He's got considerably creepier in the last 2-3 episodes.
Around the time of shooting Goblin Kim Go-eun is known to have been in a relationship with an actor twice her age, so apparently she had no issue with the age difference.

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I’m not up to date with My Roommate is a Gumiho but it’s good (depending on how it’s handled I guess) they’re at least thinking about the age difference.

It’s not so much the age gap between actors I’m thinking about - although that is probably another factor that makes things more or less palatable to the viewers - but where it’s completely impossible hundreds of years so it’s beyond a normal generation gap.

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Yes, me too. MGIAG worked because the gumiho was trapped for a long time, never acted remotely like a regular human and wasn't all powerful while involved in a romance with a teenage human. Goblin and Roommate are almost the opposite of all of those.

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I think you are right about the power differential issue as being more of a factor rather than the age differential. For example, Buffy and Angel (or my preference: Buffy and Spike) is not a problem with me either. While I do enjoy My Roommate is a Gumiho (Hyeri's comic timing is very good), I admit it can be a tad uncomfortable at times, and I never really took to the Goblin pairing, even though the story is epic.

I kind of view My Girlfriend is a Gumiho is an exception to the age difference issue. She may be years older but for most of it she was cooped up in a painting - she doesn't have the life experience of a creature who has hundreds of years living among humans, so it's like she is technically on pause at least in terms of advancing years. Her naïveté is perfectly understandable.

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Did anyone watch "Mine" on netflix? The peacock was my favorite side-character.

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Yes, I watched it. The peacock also had the worst special effects in recent memory - the scenes of its flight. YouTube have videos of real peacocks flying - let’s just say they are not graceful in flight.

KSH did a wonderful job with her character, I thought.

I thought it was funny that they decided to use the oldest trope in murder mystery who-done-it’s.

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Is there anything good on Viki? Thinking about paying for a subscription.

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EVERYTHING is on VIKI. I’m watching most shows on it now. Bossam, My roommate is a Gumiho, doom at your service, and a lot of older dramas too. I’ve had subscription for 4 years now.

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It probably varies a bit according to region but I’m finding Viki really good at the moment - this time last year I wasn’t watching anything on it at all so I’m pleased to be getting my money’s worth again.

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One of the few subs that are actually worth it if you are in to Asian dramas.

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Hi Beanies! Im in a drama slump. For a really long time now or not so? Hehehe. My last drama was Vincenzo and i dunno what to watch next. Any recommendations beanies? Thank u so much for your help. 🤗😊

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I’m really enjoying My roommate is a Gumiho. On VIKI.

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this is my fav at the moment. or should i say HE IS... nah, i love Hyeri also!!

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This is a dangerous question because everyone has different tastes. Random suggestion:
You probably missed 'Psychopath Diary' (2019) the funniest serial killer comedy you could hope for.
You also probably missed 'Into The Ring' (2020) the funniest local government comedy out there. It was like a K-drama as directed by Wes Anderson.

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Hospital Playlist! Season 1 is done and Season 2 is currently airing - highly recommend!

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Hum... I really liked She Would Never Know, it's a nice romance with normal people ; Sell Your Haunted House it's a fantasy drama with a very good world-building and fun characters. In the airing ones, my favourite is Racket Boys! This drama is a gem with a perfect young cast!

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Depends on what genre you like! 😅 I’m not fully caught up on the ongoing shows yet but for recently-finished shows, I’d go for “Youth of May.”

Otherwise, another one I just finished is “18 Again,” also starring Lee Do-hyun!

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thank you guyth for the suggestions, well i am just taking it easy and currently watching HPS2 and YAMS. really really love seo hyun jin. ^_^

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YAMS is really good for now!

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I was supposed to be watching HP2, instead I drifted off to rewatching every episode of Prison Playbook, as it was showing on my local TV channel. This drama is just pure gold. All the actors are just so good and every characters are brought to life. I know this is a very rose-tinted verson of a real prison, but there is just so much to learn from this drama about life, relationship, friends, hope, perseverance ...

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Crazy how time just flew by and we’re officially past the halfway mark for 2021! Still stuck at home but not complaining - as long as I have wifi and shows.

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On the Edge of Insanity
This drama is better than I expected, I think the only realistic k-drama I have seen that (mostly) accurately portrays a company and it's employees going through very turbulent times. (Viki).

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