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You Are My Spring: Episodes 7-8 Open Thread

We get a deeper look into the hearts of our characters this week — especially our leads, who find themselves drawn to each other and struggling to articulate their relationship. But in the middle of a lot of cuteness is a much deeper and touching story… and then our hint of murderous intrigue, just when things seemed to be settling back into normalcy.

 
EPISODES 7-8 WEECAP

Da-jung is far kinder about being brutally strangled than one might have expected. Perhaps because of the tenuous and somewhat sensitive relationship between her and Ian Chase, she lets the incident go, very understanding of the “nightmare” he was unable to break out from. Ian seems intrigued by her empathy, but regardless, soon checks out of the hotel.

The violence of this scene then falls to its romantic aftermath. While Eun-ha is taking her breather at the seaside, the cafe is desperate for a helping hand, so both Da-jung and Young-do pitch in (it’s helpful to have mutual friends!). When Young-do sees the bruises on her wrist, he not only goes into doctor mode, but protective oppa mode, doing everything from scolding her, to delicately putting ointment on her wrist.

There is such a softness and understanding between these two — I love how it always comes out with this childish banter, as if they don’t know what else to do with the emotions they are feeling. Their game of copy cat in the storage room is probably the pinnacle of this, and complete with some sexual innuendo from the other part-timer, these two are as awkward as ever.

Then, when Young-do has a fever and is hospitalized (as a precaution because of his transplant), the tables are turned. It’s Da-jung’s turn to expose her feelings for him via her concern for his health, and the moment ends with a frank conversation between the two.

Da-jung notes, and Young-do agrees, that he has not shared much about himself, whereas Da-jung has been pretty exposed to him from the start. He rectifies that in a beautifully written bit of dialogue about his childhood and his scars (emotional and physical), and Da-jung ties it all together, with new context on things hs has said. It’s a touching scene — especially when Young-do continues, saying how he has come to like Da-jung, but then stifles the moment asking her, “Do you want to be friends?”

When they tried to be neighbors they were actually more like friends, and now that they are posited as friends, it’s pretty obvious that what they want to be is lovers. But Young-do shuts the door on that before it’s even fully opened, and even though they share a beautiful embrace, the label of “friendship” hangs over them.

Their relationship has a real-life complexity to it, and even though they’re banter-y and childish half the time, there’s such a deeper and more mature current running through their relationship that it feels quite intimate to watch.

Da-jung is pretty somber about this “friendship,” understanding that she likes him, and noting all the moments and details and clues that they cherish each other — from the trinkets that they save, to the deeper moments that they realize they can, and desire to, rely on each other.

Da-jung surprises Young-do by writing into his radio show with a story about them, and awkward as it is, it opens up the communication up again. Da-jung admits she also likes him; Young-do admits he is afraid of hurting her if they become more involved. And, as the icing on the cake, bascially every other character in this drama is gunning for them to get together, with varying degrees of hijinks.

You Are My Spring is getting quite good at balancing its competing tones, and I think this week’s episodes are the perfect example of that. The depth and dialogue and moments between Young-do and Da-jung dig quite deep, as does the extended flashback sequence of Ga-young’s story (so touching).

But amidst all this depth and even emotional heaviness, there’s a huge chunk of humor, too. Ga-young is an important character for adding this lightness, and I loved all the moments with her and Da-jung, from their cohabitation, to the friendship that Ga-young declares, to Ga-young gunning for her to be with Young-do (as opposed to the usual antagonistic role of the second female lead, yay!). Comedy and hijinks also come from Young-do’s friends, who range from touching to ridiculous, but nothing tops the sequence between Da-jung and Young-do themselves.

Ga-young has put little post-its on the gingerbread cookies that Da-jung saved, and tucked them in a little towel. When Young-do notices, Da-jung is aghast, and can’t go far enough to convince him that Ga-young did it and she had no idea. She even follows him outside, desperate to save face, and in the end, clutches at his shirt and rips it opened Answer Me 1988 style. The horror is so, so comical, as is the rest of this scene. As Young-do tries to escape with his dignity intact, he’s running around like a headless chicken, and everyone that seems him is comically perplexed. It’s hilariously edited, and with great performances — definitely a rewind and rewatch moment.

But that’s exactly how the drama tricks us, too. We flip-flop from the deeper and emotional moments, to the light and comedic, and then suddenly — wham! We are back to the intrigue buried deep in our characters’ pasts.

Ian Chase turns up again at the hotel, and winds up buying ice cream for the strange little boy living in the hotel, and dragging Da-jung into it too. And damn, Yoon Park does it again. How can he be so very dark one moment, and the next (when he’s coercing Da-jung into letting him buy her ice cream), so charming and swoony? Because that look her gave her did make my heart flutter a bit. But then come the repercussions.

Ian asks to meet Da-jung one night at the cafe, and when he returns to the table from picking up his order, there’s the infamous napkin rose at his table. He picks it up, and that’s just when Da-jung walks in. All her horrors and fears come rushing back — what a relief that Young-do walks in behind her to steady her.

What’s going on!? Ian seems to have so many sides to him, I’m not entirely convinced he is the sociopathic twin. I mean, I think he is, but I also see the warmth of his connection to Da-jung. This leads us to think that Ian is actually the swoony + murderous character of Chae Joon we thought we knew earlier in the drama, but is this just a red herring to confuse us? How many more characters are involved? Is one twin really dead? Have we been seeing both of them act out different roles in the story so far? So many questions!

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There are so many things happening in this drama, the best part being Da-Jung and Young-Do's relationship. I laughed a lot during these episodes but the cookies scene was the best. They're so honnest with each other, I really liked when Young-Do came back to say that he didn't slap the door, it was because of the wind. It's sad he doesn't want to have a love relationship because he doesn't want to hurt the person he loves because of his heart condition. It's nice to see his friends being supportive.

Young-Do and Ian Chase started a psychological war. Young-Do's talk about fake patients corresponded to his discussion with Ian.

Ian Chase can be super cold and suddenly super charming, it's pretty hard to know what he is thinking...

For the murders, there is cleary a third person, when Da-Jung went in the café at the end, there was a guy with cap getting out. Who is he and why is killing people? I was happy that Young-Do was there for her at the end.

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Dr.Ian screams disaster to me.

Yes, I also loved the scene of them realizing that the cookies had names and they were under the same ‘duvet’ made me laugh. They were so cute, especially when DJ tried to explain the situation by sending the ML a lot of lengthy texts. 😂

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I re-watched it a lot of times 😂

I loved everything! From Young-Do's teasing face when Da-Jung was explaining that it was Ga-Young who did it, Da-Jung's shocked face, then the shirt accident, Young-Do and his secratary's encounter, the lengthy texts, Da-Jung wishing to be unconscious :D

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Yeah it was so funny because despite DJ’s best and truthful effort to make him understand that it wasn’t her doing, he didn’t quite buy it because it doesn’t look at that. 😂 Poor DJ. I really like this couple and think they will be one solid couple with great communication skill.

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Also the imagination of the people around them,with Young Do running in the night holding his shirt imagine all the rave the next day

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Curious if the guy who is after Ian is the Boss of the Facility or Che Jongmin's Dad that might still be alive or a total unknown person to us all together,clearly he knew them when they were 18 so from there on the whole thing started and Ian knows quite well who he is and why he is doing it and his secretary/friend knows it as well as he told her...Guess the thing is what he did back then to fool him that put such a dent in his pride that is obsessed with them...

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Is he the “beggar” person that has no finger prints? I always feel suspicious of him since he appeared near the locker and helped the FL get the music box.

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Did you notice she also got startled when the door accidentally slammed shut. The shocked on her face when she understood the depth of his feeling for her...so priceless and amazing acting

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Yes, yes, and then when he came and apologized too. Perfection.

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@kafiyah-bello it was so cute the way he was explaining and being so pouty

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I like that you could tell he was trying not to yell, but it came out anyway and so he realized he needed to apologize.

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It's the one drama that I have to see every week. I love the guys and especially Seo Ha-neul and the way he dealt with the detractors at Joo Yeong-do's wedding.

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Can I just say these last two episodes were my favorite. I literally laughed out loud at the girl imagining them have sexy times. 🤣. I cried when he asked to be her friend, it was heartbreaking, but you get it. I just love love this drama even with the silly childhood connections.

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I was thinking that YD is basically the first man she's been "involved" with that isn't asking or expecting her to take care of him or to "fix" him. Whether they just stay friends or they do in the end become lovers, this is a much healthier setup for human relationship in general, at least for DJ.

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I adore the fact that they seem to be friends before anything else. It is such an important aspect of any relationship. I also love the intimacy they have in this drama, it is so rare.

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There is so much friendly touching, hugging, etc. between friends, family, and just loved ones in general in this drama, and I loved what Young-do said in voiceover about embraces.

"Embracing and warming someone's body with your temperature is a more sincere act of affection than mere words. It means "I've missed you so much", "What took you so long?", "I was so worried about you", "I was lonely without you", "I almost went crazy pining for you", "I'm sorry", "It's okay", "Thank you"."

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YES!!!!

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I rewatched that part twice. And the narration about embraces made me tear up thinking about hugging my mom when she came visit me 10 years ago. She passed away so when the line said "I have missed you so much" I busted crying. I have never watched a show that made me cry and laugh this much

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"even with the silly childhood connections"

... could be appended to almost any favorable comment about 98.481% of kdramas. If you expand "childhood" to include past lives then 99.999%

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I never knew it was possible for a grown man to be so awkwardly adorable. KDW is such an underrated actor. And it's not just his comedic timing, the emotional scenes are great too. The confession scene was so touching and well acted. The way he sighed and tried to smile, the way his voice faltered you can clearly see the pain, vulnerability, how hard he's holding back. Still I'm glad YD confessed and was upfront about his health. While it does hinder our Doda couple from getting together for now, I'm glad DY is aware. I'd rather deal with it now rather than the angst later when they're in the midst of love. I have no doubt DY will become his strength just as he's been for her.

This show is so good at balancing out deep, emotional scenes with quirky, light comedic moments and I'm loving it. Some scenes I have to go back and watch a few times, they're that good lol. I'm loving GY's developing friendship with DY too, she's hilarious. All the supporting characters are so much fun to watch from the nurse to the part time cashier, they're all hilarious.

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Oops it's DJ. I got confused with the initials 😅

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I agree. I like that they are friends. I guess I do kind of assume it's highly possible they'll end up together in the end, but I'm down for watching two mature people who genuinely care about each other as people be able to navigate the complexity of their feelings and find a way to still be a positive presence for each other.

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I laughted so much at DJ being upgraded "Best Friend" by GY without her being aware and ending being side lined when she meet EH and they bonded over Patrick

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Everytime the group of friends sit on the rooftop I'm would be giddy with excitement because I know their banter would be so good.

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A-ri says at one point that DJ and YD's combined ages are 72. I love this because, even though it's not their first relationship (for lack of a better term), as they sort out their feelings and their situation, they way they are bumbling through it is so relatable.

Likewise with the women on the rooftop and the friend posturing. There's childishness in all of us when it comes to people who matter to us. There's also great love and generosity. I love that friendship is so strong this week, across our cast.

Also - what a breath of fresh air that Ga-young isn't after her ex-husband. She's a fun character and adds a fun twist to the group dynamic. She's vapid and annoying, but her heart is in the right place (even if her ego isn't always).

I wish that the opening week had been stronger - I feel like this drama probably lost a lot of viewers that would have otherwise stayed.

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@carlybisek yes that's so nice it's not a love triangle. I loved that she is cheering for him and then calling him an idiot. And she also knew that he fell head over heels for DJ. And I'm surprised how thoughtful Patrick was in the car when he noticed that DJ get upset about being friend zoned.
Did you interpret their Gayoung and YD story as they got married so he can help her with her suicidal but not for love? Or did they fall in love in the process ? I couldn't quite understand what was implied.

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Yeah ditto. Patrick is surprisingly mature for someone who's quite a lot younger. It's cute how he's the mature, sensible one between the two and he seems to find GY's childishness adorable.
YD and GY did not fall in love. If you recall in ep1 or 2 she said YD stayed in the study and turned her away everytime she came knocking on his door in middle of the night. GY may have developed feelings or mistaken her attachment as feelings for him as YD pointed out to her.

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@dreamer205 the writer is so good that Patrick is written so thoughtfully instead of a throw away character. I do notice the way he is smitten with her and find her adorable and disappointed thinking DJ didn't want to be friends w her.

Yea I remember now when she said she would come home horny and he would hide in his room haha. It didn't make sense now hey they would get married but it does now since maybe she didn't want to reveal her mental sickness. That back story could be a drama of its own. He married her to cure her then fell in love in the process. Although it would be wrong since he's trying to treat her but I'm pretty sure there's a drama like that. ALSO it's very in character for YD to be selfless and marry her to save her. It is sad to think this but I feel like he's just on a mission to save as many people as he can while he lives like he's ok borrowed time.

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I think I'm similar to @dreamer205 in that I believe Ga-young confused her gratitude and subsequent affection for YD with love. While played more humorously when it comes to her crashing at DJ's, it's clear that she struggles with loneliness and being by herself; so she seems to have felt that he 'saved' her from that. I think he also genuinely cared for her, but seems to be in a more clinical 'I see someone in pain and can help' way, which is also explained a bit more when he tells DJ his story. Regardless, theirs is one of the most refreshingly mature and interesting ex relationships I've seen in a kdrama (and funny, too). I think Patrick is a better partner to her as well - he intuitively 'gets' GY in a way that YD never did. And he's willing to wear his vulnerability much more openly, which is something she can relate to and even take courage from.

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Ohhh I never thought of how Patrick is so much better for her as a partner. Now I recalled all the moments where she asked YD if he ever sees her as a suicidal person that needs to be saved. And how he never answer her since he didn't want to lie or say yes.

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She was suicidal and he became her therapist. I guess the marriage was because of her public profile and image, to help cover up that she was in therapy because of her mental health issues. Over the course of the next year, she developed feelings for him that were due probably to projection. He understood that and refused to let her change the nature of their relationship. That is, he is, was and remains her psychiatrist.

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Agreed! It's nice and refreshing to see the dynamics of relationship between two adults in the 30s play out in a relatable way.
I, too think that the drama didn't grab the audience in the premier week which is a shame for the ratings. Also being a Mon/Tue drama as well as the Olympics on all contribute to the less than impressive ratings. At least it's been top1 on/off on Netflix so perhaps most people are watching there. I hope the casts and crew are not discouraged by the ratings.

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Same! I think it's developed quite an enthusiastic following via streaming, as you note, so hopefully that's also making a positive impact on the cast and crew. I love the Olympics, but it does disadvantage dramas for sure as well.

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The whole two episodes have been a rewind and rewatch. The laughed out loud several times, and I'm disappointed / surprised that the rating is so low.
This is one of the more mature relationship I have watched...but it needs more spice now that we are more than half way through. Come on show, they are both 36...give us something more than just the friends imagination even though they were hilarious

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I've rewatched both eps, too! 😂 Their facial expressions during the serious discussions and the subsequent unfolding of where this is all going are subtle but powerful. And I died laughing when everyone was imagining what could have possibly happened between them. Those vignettes must have been so much fun to act.

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It’s such a pity that this drama seems to be passed over by many based on the ratings and some forums- it’s awesome!! Now that it’s gotten into its stride, I’m absolutely loving it! Kim Dong Wook and Seo Hyun Jin are wonderful actors each by themselves; together, they’ve been magical! And there have been many who are quick to pan the writing and direction, but I’m really enjoyed both too! Perhaps it appeals more to viewers with a literary bent..

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I have to disagree slightly on the tone since - despite the fact I loved these two episodes and actually roared with laughter at various points - I feel like it leaned too heavily into the humour. It felt more like an old-school romcom (complete with serial killer - natch) so the transition to Ian Chase being completely sketchy kind of didn't fit so well.

I did really like the scene between the two men where Ian Chase gets defensive, drops a pen and the next scene has Young-do is explaining in a lecture how that behaviour means that he's definitely lying.

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