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You Are My Spring: Episodes 13-14 Open Thread

As our couple deals with the pain of their breakup and the repercussions that follow, they’re forced to look at their decision to part ways. Was it really for the best? While their relationship takes the foreground, in the background we learn much about what happened at the orphanage, and where it all started to go wrong for the twins.

 
EPISODES 13-14 WEECAP

Are Da-jung and Young-do better apart, so they can’t cause each other any possible future hurt? Or are they better together in a partnership where they can support each other with whatever comes their way? I know the answer, and you know the answer, and luckily for our couple, so does their group of friends. And they get an A+ for meddling and intervening.

The more the drama goes on, the more I just love all these side characters. From Young-do’s goofy pals that act half their age, to Da-jung’s deep friendship with Eun-ha, her new one with Ga-young, and heck, even the coffee shop part-timer and the nurse at Young-do’s clinic — each character brings so much color to the story. Even when we only see fragments of their story, or they serve a tangential and comedic purpose, the story wouldn’t feel complete without them.

You Are My Spring has always been a bit of tonal ping-pong, going from the more cute and sweet side of the romance and relationships, to the darker current of murder and disturbed minds. But it’s also handled its side characters in a really beautiful way, and in its own time, given each of them a chance to shine.

Eun-ha had her moment were we learned about her wounded heart (which makes the reveal of her dating Da-jung’s little brother even more squee). Ga-young had her moment where we got her backstory, and saw into her soul a little. And this week, it was time to learn about NURSE OH (Baek Hyun-joo).

I have long appreciated her as a character in the drama for her general goofiness and awesome comedic timing, but it’s a testament to this drama’s strength how in the space of a short flashback, they can hit us in the heart. We learn how Nurse Oh met Young-do, how he was able to counsel her in her grief, and with that, their bond in the present becomes even more meaningful.

So between Nurse Oh, Ga-young, and all the other friends, everyone is equally horrified about Young-do and Da-jung’s breakup (especially since half of them were hiding on the roof and heard most of that horrible scene play out). Each character lets their opinion be heard loud and clear, whether it’s chewing Young-do out (Ga-young for the win!), videotaping Young-do expressing his true feelings, or sharing that video with Da-jung — each friend plays a part in their getting back together.

From here on out, it’s just pure unadulterated sweetness for Da-jung and Young-do. These two have such an innocence about them, and are so in love. It’s precious to watch them all giddy together, but it’s even better to watch the immediate support they now provide each other. For instance, when the Choi Jung-min/Ian Chase case is on the news (yet again), Young-do is there for Da-jung almost instantaneously.

If I could venture one complaint this week, it’s that I do crave more of this Choi Jung-min/Ian Chase story. I like what we get, but it’s always so suspenseful and interesting that when we do get it, I just want more! The drama switches to this storyline pretty suddenly, and always has, but something about the quick shifts works for me.

A great example of this is the scene in the hotel when Da-jung is talking to Park Ho. All of a sudden he jumps up and takes off… because Ian Chase has been lingering nearby and heard their conversation. It’s that drop in your stomach the drama captures so well. Da-jung went from feeling safe and confident to being alone and scared in the blink of an eye, and the drama expresses this so well over and over again.

We also get some important questions answered this week, though some details are still vague. Our creepy “homeless” guy is now known as HWANG JAE-SHIK (Park Ki-deok), and upon raiding his home, our detectives are able to confirm lots of creepy things, from evidence that it was Jae-shik that drugged Ian, to finding his murder diary and a lot of details that help us figure out what happened in the past.

Some flashbacks also help with that. We see Choi Jung-min and Ian Chase as boys at the orphanage, and later together as 18-year-olds. I’m not sure how or when the two got together again, but in the scene we see, Ian Chase is already deeply entangled with Jae-shik, and the two have been “cooperating” on this murder spree that is really a bunch of revenge killings. What we saw made sense, but I still have questions, so I’m looking forward to more of this storyline in our final week.

Overall, I’ve enjoyed the pacing of this drama quite a lot, and going into our final week, it feels like we have solid ground on which to land, but also enough plot points and questions to warrant more show — because we need a few more things answered.

One thing that was answered this week, though, was this tiny detail about Da-jung. I noticed two or three times in early episodes that when she was sitting, she absentmindedly kicked leaves or detritus around her into a little circle. It was symbolic of something for sure, but we never quite addressed it, or saw it again, until this week.

Present-day Da-jung makes a little rock circle around a flower that’s coming up in the grass, and it triggers a memory for Young-do. They remember back to their brief time at the “orphanage,” where we learn Da-jung had done the same thing with cigarette butts around a blooming weed. It serves as much as a deeper recognition between them as it does a metaphor, and I was glad to see this wrapped up so nicely.

I can’t close without a word on Ga-young and her drama, though — both real and fictional. I’m surprisingly invested in her relationship with Patrick and I want them to be happy as much as I want Da-jung and Young-do to be happy. Will she be able to trust his love for her? Will they go public with their relationship? Can I love that earnest puppy face of Patrick any more than I already do?

But then there’s Ga-young’s fictional drama, which might be even better than the real one. A princess that makes it back to our world by coming through the plumbing? This show needs to be real, because we all need the bathos of an other worldly princess who travels worlds via water pipes and turns up in a bathroom sitting on a toilet, sopping wet.

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Thanks @missvictrix 💜

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Yay I'm so glad the angst did not last long. Our couple is back together! Even better their feelings are now out in the open and most importantly they've developed a mutual understanding. I've read Reddit comments who said the break up was a trope for the sake of it. I beg to disagree, the short separation allowed our leads to realise just how deep their feelings were and how badly they want to be together. Not only that, post reunion YD finally opened up about his wound to DJ. Just as YD had been there for DJ previously, it is now DJ's turn to support YD as he finally says farewell to his painful memory. Kudos to the writer, this couple has got to be one with the best communications and mutual understanding I've seen in kdramaland in a long time. Realistically they have their problems but they're able to overcome them together and make progress. It helps that they have some of the most supportive friends ever. This drama has the most lovable supporting characters.

I'm also glad the childhood connection was wrapped up beautifully as a moment of recognition from both without the need for words. Not that it was necessary to solidify their affections because I'm fully convinced they fell in love from the experiences they've shared as adults. However I can understand if the writer felt the need to make everything a full circle as it was a moment of comfort for both our leads when they were kids.

The directing, cinematography and attention to details continue to leave me in awe. Some of the scenes I loved in this week's episodes:
- The reunion scene under the beautiful lights, in contrast to one of their previous scenes where the lights were half lit.
- DJ stood up and approached YD after his visit to mum's columbarium. This scene is a parallel to YD's approaching DJ as she got out of the police station.
- DJ playing dress up in YD's doctor gown as she tentatively prodded him to open up.
- Their car moving though the tunnel as the scene transitioned to the past and YD's touching closure with mum.
- The montage of YD telling everyone he comes across about his gf had me in stitches.
- All the scenes our leads are together, it's such a joy to watch them so genuinely happy to be in each other's presence.

YAMS is becoming my fave healing drama. Even the supporting characters' side stories aren't just there to fill time, they teach us a thing or two about life too. Now that a lot of couples are finding their way to each other I wonder if Ari and Cheol Do might too. Her quick wittedness makes up for his lack of haha. I'm dreading to final episodes next week already, it's going to be hard to have to say goodbye.

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I couldn't agree more with how beautifully shot almost every scenes in this drama. I especially love the last episode when Dajung slowly approached Youngdo to open up, without making it burdensome for him T_T That scenes are so beautifully written and crafted T_T Also the very end where they both finally realized she has been his first love after all (it's a little bit circumstancial but who care I LOVE cheesy story) yet both said nothing but understand what it meant (and we also understand).

Talking about paralel, I love it so much the way Dajung reacted to his story T_T She comforted him by acknowledging his bad memories with his mom (like Youngdo did to her when she opened up) but she followed up by putting on his shoes and understanding that perhaps with Youngdo that's not how he approached it (ended up with that very emotional scene of adult Youngdo meeting his mother T_T).

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Also quickly becoming one of my favorite healing dramas too! So many good lines to quote and think back on. I appreciate all of the supporting characters, and am so glad they aren't one dimensional sides, but actual full beings in our leads lives. :)

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And they get an A+ for meddling and intervening.

In kdramaland, there is a formal grading system...

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Honestly, I was disapointed by the 13th episode, everybody agreed about the fact YD took a bad decision, even himself, but it was all... His urge to run away from any relationship should have been discussed in this episode or explain. Even if I loved the scenes when he shared his childhood to DJ. But the 13th was more a filler than anything...

The 14th was great! I love how this couple goes from a humiliating moment to sharing their inners feelings to a confession!

For the mystery, it looks like Ian Chase was more guilty than his brother.

I liked the story of YD's secretary. She's so jovial now. I'm happy she found him.

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Thank You @missvictrix for covering this wonderful drama everyweek! Also love how it's an open thread type because it does give more space to talk about our perspective and comments (in the article and the comment section) even more.

The 13th episode really is all about the amazing friends, to think that those people all works together in their own way showing to both Dajung and Youngdo that it's okay to be happy AND maybe be together (GO GAYOUNG SPITTING FACTS TO YOUNGDO AND practically became our vessel when she talks to Dajung). But I also love how different the friends' approach are (Gayoung and Seungwon are borderline aggressive but proven to be the most helpful; Eunha and Haneul were more calm and defensive to their respective friends).

On the other hand, i feel like the 14th episode shows what You are My Spring does best juggling these different vibe (genre?) to our plate. I feel like they peaked with these on episode 3-6 ish but it's back! And honestly, me too I didn't feel taken aback by the sudden turn to the mystery side of the story.

There's something that made me a little bit puzzled tho, so it IS confirmed that the twin that triggered the killing were Ian Chase? And the one taken to the US were also him. But how does this connect to the twin that met with Youngdo in that orphanage? Was that before or after meeting Dajung? And who met with 18 yrs old Youngdo??

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I was confused by the twins' backstory. Wasn't Ian Chase the younger twin who didn't have a name? The one who has an issue with toothbrushes from his humiliating time sharing toothbrushes? The angry one who was hiding and called her a dummy? The same one who ran from his hiding place to a new hiding place under the Christmas tree? So then CJM would have been the older brother who was abandoned later, who patted her on the head and never forgot her (seriously?), and ... was caught and adopted to America? He said the older twin went to America. But that would make Ian Chase the older twin ... who was the one with a name and was abandoned second. Then how did he have the nightmare memories of being drugged in the night and waking at the orphanage?

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I'm confused as well -- in the flashbacks, which teen is Chase (ballcap or no ballcap?) Convoluted murder mysteries are nothing new to kdramas but this one has me going "Wait...what?" more than usual.

On a different note, I do not know if the show clued us in and I just missed it, but the reveal this week about Eun-ha and little bro had me giggling foolishly because I could not get over the fact we have another noona romance involving two female best friends, the charming younger sibling and another (sponsored) coffee bar. I'm relieved that the mom character is so much more appealing in this one...

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Ian was the one who was given to the orphanage first,the one who called her a dummy...CJM was the one who kept the name and stayed with their Mom a little longer till she came and abandoned CJM as well,that's when the twins reunite and we know Ian was the Hyung.They both shared the same name so it was early confusing not anymore after ep 14 explaines it all...Think u focus too much on the Hyung- dongseng relationship when they are twins and outside people could very well say anything about their status...

It happened on the day Da Jung came to get the book and they both met her ...The one under the tree was CJM while Ian was in the cell with that jacket...He was found and went to USA,CJM remained in the country and when they were 18 they meet again...

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I'm pretty sure that the one in the grey shirt was the younger twin with no name and was the one hiding under the Christmas tree. He was not the one who called her a dummy thought. That was Ian Chase. I think that Ian is the older (named) twin that got found and sent to England because the other twin had a better hiding spot and the people running the orphanage couldn't tell them apart or didn't care. The younger twin then became the only CJM, since they'd both grown up being called that.

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See, this is where it just doesn't make sense to me.

On the one hand, we have flashbacks in Ian Chase's nightmares, indicating he was the twin with no name who was drugged and abandoned at the orphanage, who had to use communal toothbrushes and has had a problem ever since, who was captured and sent to America because it was easy to get rid of a boy with no name. Yet, he clearly said in the last episode, the older twin was sent to America. If one twin was going to be registered, wouldn't it have been the older twin?

Then we have the contrast between the boy in the jacket and the boy in the gray shirt. The boy in the gray shirt patted KDJ's head and hid under the Christmas tree, fixated on KDJ and never forgot her. That had to be CJM -- but this is the twin who seemed to be already living at the orphanage and to know his way around. So how did Ian Chase, the named twin with the jacket who was rude to KDJ and went to America -- how did he get the memories of being drugged, waking up in the orphanage, and having to use the communal toothbrushes? He was wide awake when his mother dropped him off.

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The police found a list of the names of the children in the orphanage. They were all renamed with the family name Hong. (Remember, the detective comments that the pastor's family name was Park, and wasn't it weird that all the kids were called Hong?) That could account for how the "older" twin could be adopted out of the country without having been registered with his father's name Choi (as the other twin was.) Then there could be one name, Choi Jong Min, for two people--one who was renamed once as Chae Joon, investment banker, and one who was renamed twice, first as Hong something or other, and then as Ian Chase.

I put scare quotes around the word older, even though a lot of the twins I've known in my life know which one was born first. Like in the book of Genesis in the Bible, the mother and midwife know Esau was first.

I cannot decide whether there are really twins or only one person who is so traumatized that his personality has split. If it is the second case, then there is no reason for Ian Chase not to know all the memories of his brother, because the brother is part of the same person. If they really are twins, they could still share information, as we saw in the Christmas scenes. Either way, whether they are actually twins or only different personalities of the same guy, as adults, both twins like KDJ. Everyone in the drama grew up yearning for a warm, supportive family. The difference between the first twin and the second twin and KDJ is, the first twin is kind to her to get her to like him, and the second twin is curt and raw with her. He literally bleeds on her.

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Hmmm... I guess I didn't think it was clear that those memories belonged to Ian. Everything is so mixed up, that I don't think they are necessarily his. I could be COMPLETELY wrong, though. :D It's a good thing this show is so excellent in other areas, so that I am willing to roll with whatever confusion the twin storyline dishes out.

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Once again, Seo Hyun-jin took my breath away. The range of emotions she has conveyed over the course of this drama is nothing short of extraordinary: heart-rending anguish when opening up about her childhood and her mother; soul-shattering despair after the breakup; and here in episode 14, an all-encompassing and radiant and flooding joy. The most amazing thing of all is that each time, I felt it, too. She makes me feel right along with her, and it's nothing short of an immersive experience for me. Someone give her the Daesang now.

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agree, i think SHJ has been growing her DJ character n her acting so beautifully over the eps! conversely, while i loved seeing them get back together, i actually heartily wish KDW wasn’t so restrained in his acting in these latest 2 eps.. wld have been nice to see a lot more emotion coming from him, which he portrayed so well with his puppy eyes in all the previous eps! but anyway, they are finally back tog again so i shan’t quibble too much!! also not ready for the drama to end, but just crossing my toes n fingers that they don’t suddenly kill either of the leads off cos of a heart issue or cos of crazy ian n equally crazy bad chaebol lady…. please please writer-nim, let YD & DJ have their happy ever after!!

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Every Kdrama has certain tropes. It's standard for the main couple in a romantic drama to break up close to the end, and then, eventually, to get back together. The good dramas have actors and directors who upend those tropes through commitment to their craft. I became hooked on these shows because of actors who brought sincere human emotion to scenes based on utterly absurd plot devices and repetitive tropes. What makes this a great drama is, the writers were also committed to finding something fresh in accustomed plot devices. The breakup in episode 13 actually made sense for a change! It fit with what we already knew about these two characters. The getting back together scenes also made sense. It often feels like the female lead is making a mistake to get back together. What really got me right in the feels was the scene where Young Do runs around to open the car door for Da Jung. I was tearing up even before Da Jung actually said what I had said to the screen, "You must have always wanted to treat me like this." It's like they know when to have the actors say the thing out loud and when having them just make it clear non-verbally will work better. But it has to be a combination of the writing, the acting and the directing that is turning what should be a totally cheesy plot into something so satisfying.

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Another element that was a bit refreshing was that Da-jung knew it was coming. That breakup really felt like they'd both prepared for a battle, they both parried and thrust, advanced and retreated. So it wasn't like she was blindsided and she also didn't try to stop it. And I feel like both of those would have been more typical go-to ways to handle it for the average drama. Young-do is the psychiatrist, but in eps 12 & 13 it's Da-jung who seems to have the most nuanced understanding and perspective. They did that well.

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I agree. It also feels like the second time around, their relationship is now more official and secured, whereas before there were still unknowns between them. Now there's a declaration and confirmation of their feelings for each other, and how they want to move forward with their relationship, sharing out in the open how they want to be there for each other, etc.

What I like the most is that this relationship seems more mature and healthy, at least to me, than some other relationships I've seen in kdrama-land. Sure there are tropes, but the refreshing elements of having open and honest communication, boundaries, healthy bonding time with friends, etc makes them seem more like a three dimensional, and very realistic couple.

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So true about this drama knowing when to say and what to leave unsaid. Writer Lee sure has some poetic flair, the dialogues are so thoughtful and pretty. YD sets the bar pretty high for bf material. "Because I want to treat you well." "Call me anytime." "You can ask me anything."

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I watched this whole series, ep 1 to 14, in 2 days - this just shows how good it is. I love the shots, especially very widescreen ones. And it's such a good healing drama 😭 Love the leads and also the side characters, though I gotta say I'm pretty confused between the 2 twins, esp in their younger days

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I also watched their Netflix The Swoon jenga game, and their Netflix Korea TMI (both on YouTube 😊) if anyone's interested:
https://youtu.be/jHiSyJ-sNSY
https://youtu.be/0ofxOQkPAwY

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"I love you"
- that pretty much summed up everything

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...aaaaaaaaaand my heart just exploded once again. 💕

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I do have some concerns about what will happen next week. This seems too neat for the penultimate week of the drama. Is Ian Chase going to try to kill one of our leads? Are they both going to die in a car accident? I still can't get over my suspicions that there is only one brother with multiple personality disorder from trauma. (Though then, who died in the forced suicide?) We know that these are people who won't allow us to finish the drama without more tears.

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I actually think we're quite safe from more pain or last minute catastrophe. There's still quite a bit to wrap up with Ian Chase and the murder mystery, GY and Patrick's relationship, hopefully Ha Neul and the boxer's relationship as well. I'm hoping Ian will get a bit more screen time and a redemption arc next week.

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Yes, I'm hoping Ian doesn't go through with the failed surgery plan, even though that woman may have him killed.

I also want to know why Ian Chase asked whether KDJ knew whose heart Young-do accepted, and told him he should never have accepted that heart. What was that about???? Since he and his brother were behind that detective's murder, why would they care who got his heart?

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I can’t with Young Do telling the whole country he has a girlfriend!The last scenes were so emotional and beautiful...

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Bit torn with wanting Ian to have more screen time just to have more understanding of the mystery. Ep 13 left me a bit confused though Ep 14 made up for it with the flashback on the twins. I admit I'm still confused about what happened when they're 18.

Little details like the pillows, crossing the road when you have a green walk signal, Eun-ha dating and smiling, Nurse Oh holding back on the salt shower, Ga-young's co-star helping her out are all making me smile.

I just can't like how there was a significant emphasis on Young-do potentially hurting Da-jung because he nearly got into a car accident and ran over someone. Yet there he is still driving around when alternative means to travel exist.

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Who is this creepy chaebol lady? I know she wants some surgery shenanigans, but where did she come from?? Is it possible she's Ian Chase's bio mom?

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Wow. That would be such a last minute twist! I hope it isn't so! But I'm with you, who is this lady? What is her motive/deal - other than wanting to take over the hospital, but really, why does it have to be Ian?

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She doesn't look like his mum and looks pretty young.

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I thought about that, but I often think the "mom" characters don't look old enough to be the mom. I don't really think it's his mom, but I just can't figure out how she is so involved. She wants Ian to kill someone during surgery, but how does she have her hands in all the rest of it??

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I think they investigates him. But I wonder if she has connection with the Fondation who sent him in USA.

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I so love the drama about the princess, lol, and I need to watch such a drama! I love Ga-Young, I love the female friendship. I like the non-traditionnal route they took with her character, I like how every pairing is unexpected, like I thought it would be Eun-Ha and Ha-neul, I even like her relationship with her co-star, lol. The storytelling is very beautifully executed and I love it!

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I realise what the problem is now.

Half of this drama is a van Gogh. Like Sunflowers. It's vibrant and colourful and artistic but also real. It's like a hyper realistic rendering of reality but it's still reality.

The other half is a Dali and, while it's provocative and interesting, it's nonetheless surrealist. It's bits and pieces of an image representing something that's just out of mental reach. Melting watches drape dead flesh and you're supposed to spend an hour staring at it trying to glean its meaning and even if it has a meaning at all.

I don't know how this show can go from a finely rendered, nuanced and emotionally very real conversation to strange, disconnected brush strokes of something, but you're never sure what. Just that most of it involves Ian Chase with an enigmatic look on his face.

Which is to say, I'd enjoy both these dramas just like I enjoy both these artists. Just not in the same frame.

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Note to self... check to see you've turned off the italics before posting.

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