Open Thread #731
by DB Staff
Happy Friday everyone!
Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.
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1 cat-cric-kat
October 22, 2021 at 6:19 AM
Beautiful temperature nowadays - days with moderate temperature - nights a bit cold and smooth evenings. Now it feels like you are going for December - There came a time when December-January were the only months showing what the 4th season is. Mid February used to feel like mid march and November was in its own lousiness.
The only out of the ordinary view this time around is brisk clouds and more rains.
Overall, good days to watch some Cricket.
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cat-cric-kat
October 22, 2021 at 6:23 AM
These financial Fridays aren't going too well. I employed the trick of presenting views and tempting others to move ahead with them. Family did good. Few virtual friends did good. Few fellows did good. few unknown did good but i'm not doing good. Everything doing good doesn't look good when you aren't doing good over a time when the happening is good of good and for good. Still happy to be have the outcome that i desired even though i got not many benefits from it.
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cat-cric-kat
October 22, 2021 at 6:43 AM
How many dangerous floods these people saw this past few months alone? - yet, they are playing with reports and doing tricks. Its not that they have the to face the consequences. There surely are benefits of being in power and being in the top 1-2%. That is why i always say aim for the top 2%. That the place most secure for now and fore upcoming future.
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2 Lord Cobol (Kdramas, like water, flow downhill)
October 22, 2021 at 6:37 AM
When I'm not on Dramabeans I may be watching cat videos. This one is brilliant and could also apply to cats not letting you watch kdramas :)
"Why Won't Cats Let Humans Play Games? | Kittisaurus Villains"
https://youtu.be/kI4jxtLjKfw
Years ago when I had TV, cable box, VCRs & DVD player all getting their juice from a surge protector on the floor behind them, I came home one day and nothing would come on until I realized that the surge protector had been turned off somehow. Hmmm...
A few weeks later I was home watching TV and my cat walked behind the TV stand on his way upstairs, stepped on the surge protector's rocker switch, and turned everything off. Grrr.... For several years after that I kept a ceramic bowl upside-down over the switch.
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Also, Los Angeles is scheduled to have a little rain next week!!!! :)
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dramalover4ever
October 22, 2021 at 1:25 PM
Cat's are 😈
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dramalover4ever
October 22, 2021 at 1:26 PM
See they made me write cat's instead of cats. 🐈 😻
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FlyingTool
October 22, 2021 at 2:31 PM
Rain in LA? I remember Johnny Carson making jokes about that…
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3 welh
October 22, 2021 at 6:44 AM
Netflix makes its revenue by subscriptions. But no one really knows how it measures its return on investment in programs since it does not use traditional TV rating methods.
Recently leaked document indicates that Netflix measures its shows by how many people watch the first two minutes of an episode. That is a strange guidepost, since Netflix never releases how many viewers actually finish a show or movie.
Bloomberg reported that Squid Game, a record breaking show, estimated that 89 percent of viewers who started Squid Game watched 75 minutes of it and 66 percent of viewers who started the program finished it within 23 days. Netflix refused to confirm its internal metrics to the press.
But taking the reported numbers, it would appear that 87 million people globally watched Squid Games. You would think Netflix would want to celebrate the number. But it would be only a 4X return on investment, not the touted 41X it said in a press release.
It will be hard to gauge the success of streaming platforms with so much new competition (which means higher costs) and not much growth in subscriber base (which was the downfall of cable TV business model).
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dramalover4ever
October 22, 2021 at 1:28 PM
I always give me kdramas and films the 👍. I wonder if that makes a difference? I'm certain it does to my algorithm.
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bbstl 🧹
October 22, 2021 at 2:36 PM
Netflix beats estimates and expects even better results thanks to hits like ‘Squid Game.’
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/business/media/netlix-earnings-q3-2021.html?referringSource=articleShare
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welh
October 22, 2021 at 2:47 PM
$1.4 billion profit divided by 222 m subscribers equals $6.30/subscriber profit. With plans ranging from $8 to $18/month, Netflix ROI is about 24 percent.
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4 Over-Dramaddictally
October 22, 2021 at 7:33 AM
can anyone tell me if subscribing to Kocowa directly would give quicker subtitles than watching Kocowa shows on Viki plus? I read that Kocowa has subs in 6 hours after Korean air time, but Viki takes a couple days for the same shows. For example, Dal-li and Gamjatang is listed as a Kocowa show (on Viki) but the subs don’t arrive any quicker.
Could someone clear this up for me?
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egads aka Dame Maggie
October 22, 2021 at 7:42 AM
Yes, the dramas on Kocowa are subbed as soon as they appear on Kocowa. I believe the Kocowa dramas on Viki are subbed by Viki subbers so that is the reason for the delay.
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egads aka Dame Maggie
October 22, 2021 at 7:44 AM
If there is a drama I want to see that is Viki plus/Kocowa, I just subscribe to Kocowa. I only have the regular Viki subscription when I want to watch a drama on Viki.
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 12:58 PM
Oh, I did not know this! Thanks for the info. :)
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egads aka Dame Maggie
October 22, 2021 at 1:03 PM
To be honest, if you have access to Kocowa, I don't really understand the advantage to Viki plus. But I realize Kocowa isn't available everywhere.
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 1:08 PM
I'm just dumb, and didn't realize they were independent platforms, lol.
I only have a Viki Plus subscription and waiting for subs has taken entirely too long of late. Sigh.
mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 4:18 PM
I dropped Kocowa due to the poorer sub quality.
Over-Dramaddictally
October 22, 2021 at 1:22 PM
Thank you! I used to subscribe to both Kocowa and Viki (regular) but I was gifted Viki Plus and then I started to get confused. I will follow your advice!
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bong-soo
October 22, 2021 at 3:11 PM
Which brings up something of the Viki business model that I have never understood. Why is Viki using volunteers to sub Kocowa dramas that are already being subbed by Kocowa? Must be some proprietary issues.
Also I can recall that not all dramas from the Kocowa big three: MBC, SBS, and KBS become available on Kocowa.
All part of the great mystery of Kdrama licensing.
I have a subscription to both Viki plus and Kocowa and I have been watching both THE VEIL and DALI on Kocowa because of the quick availability of subtitles.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 4:19 PM
I'm not liking the Kocowa subs on Dali.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 4:15 PM
I've been less than impressed with the Kocowa subs for Dali and Cocky Prince including subs that disappear after 2 seconds and altogether missing subs. I haven't used Kocowa in over a year and it seems much worse than I remember (Kocowa, I hope you're reading this). I'll be rewatching on Viki to see what really happened.
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 4:32 PM
I have basically been extremely patient with the subs on Viki for Dali because the subs are so much better. But I did cave and watch the most recent episodes without Viki, and there's a huge difference in the quality of the subs. This is coming from someone who barely understands Korean too, lol.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 4:35 PM
That's when I caved too, but watched that day so I could watch on Kocowa for free.
Beverly
October 22, 2021 at 3:59 PM
Thanks for asking this. Learn something new everyday.
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5 egads aka Dame Maggie
October 22, 2021 at 7:57 AM
Happy Friday everyone. It's a wee bit chilly here and I'm psyching myself up to head to the store to get some ingredients for a nice stew because chilly weather means soup and stew season. Why am I telling you this? I don't know. Maybe the conversations glimpsed here lately have been a bit fraught with conjecture and even some anger. Maybe we need to take a deep breath and remember we have a common like, but that behind that fun thing we like lurks real people with real lives, and we don't really know them or their motivations. Anyways me, a real person, who likes to come here to discuss dramas and have fun, would like to know if you have a favorite seasonally based food. Oh, I should make a crusty bread too.
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Zora
October 22, 2021 at 8:56 AM
Tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwich! Can you please share how you make those yummy sourdough breads?
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egads aka Dame Maggie
October 22, 2021 at 9:52 AM
I cannot, for the life of me, keep a sourdough starter alive. I mostly just a make a basic crusty white bread or baguette. This is my go to recipe https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/recipes/the-easiest-loaf-of-bread-youll-ever-bake-recipe
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Zora
October 22, 2021 at 10:11 AM
Thank you, Egads!
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bong-soo
October 22, 2021 at 3:20 PM
I am not a baker, Maggie but I had to smile. Being a New Englander King Arthur flour was the only flour my mother used for baking (and Land O’Lakes butter.)
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spazmo
October 22, 2021 at 7:33 PM
yup, i made a batch of creamy tomato soup (using my pesto cubes!) and froze them in the silicon Souper Cubes - then i baggie 2 blocks in a pint ziplock to reheat later...
gotta have some delish Metropolitan Market (here in seattle) garlic croutons to top, it's the best!
and i'd do grilled cheese sandwich, but i am staying away from gluten... *suffers IBS*
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knewbie
October 22, 2021 at 9:24 AM
Rather perversely, I'm dreaming of cold noodles eaten at the height of a Japanese or Korean summer. Hiyashi chuka from Japanese convenience stores. Kongguksu at a restaurant near Insadong. It all seems terribly out of reach at the moment.
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mmmmm
October 22, 2021 at 12:30 PM
I have always wanted to try Korean cold noodles! They look so appetizing on my screen. I even screen-capped one picture of it (I think it’s called “Nangmyeon”?) while I was watching 2D1N and it’s on my desktop even now.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 22, 2021 at 1:36 PM
A local restaurant here sells them. I'm just waiting for it to be hot enough. And it does get hot enough here. Looking forward to it.
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FlyingTool
October 22, 2021 at 2:44 PM
It’s nearly impossible to get traditional nangmyeon noodles. They’re supposed to be almost 100% buckwheat - if you look at the videos from the KJU and President Moon dining on nangmyeon, you can see the actual color they’re supposed to be. I haven’t seen that in the US in several decades…
And Netflix has a series on Nangmyeon, of all things!
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 22, 2021 at 2:51 PM
You've made me curious @hebang, I'll publish the colour when I get them.
spazmo
October 22, 2021 at 7:30 PM
they eat it in winter also in south korea! i buy the package to make at home - i prefer the arrowroot noodles because i can't handle the gluten in the buckwheat noodles...
FlyingTool
October 22, 2021 at 2:40 PM
According to NK people (pre-war) nangmyeon should be eaten in the dead of winter in NK while covered in a blanket sitting on the heated floor. So my mother tells me.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 27, 2021 at 3:54 PM
I love new cultural experiences but that just doesn't sound fun
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FlyingTool
October 28, 2021 at 4:08 PM
I have to admit I’ve not done this bit either. The claim (reasonable) is that the dongchimi water kimchi only ferments correctly under NK winter conditions. Certainly true it needs to mature in the cold. I, being westernized a bit, am satisfied with a refrigerator set on its coldest setting.
lillamy
October 22, 2021 at 10:36 AM
October always brings about my favorite apples, Ingrid Marie. It's sharp and fresh without being tart and it goes with absolutely everything. I love to just dice it up and serve it in a bowl along-side dinner.
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beffels
October 22, 2021 at 11:34 AM
It is spring here, so we are moving away from the soups and stews and into the land of salads. We’re in the approximately three weeks of the year where asparagus is cheap and delicious so it’s time for asparagus rolls, asparagus quiche, stir fry etc etc. (I hated asparagus as a child but I have changed my tune as an adult).
We’ve also just been given a whole lot of venison from my brother who has been hunting (deer are a pest here and do a lot of damage to our local environment) so I have to work out how to cook it. Ideas welcome!
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egads aka Dame Maggie
October 22, 2021 at 11:43 AM
I'm not a fan of venison, but I know that many people here like to make venison stews or sausages.
Those spring vegetables with their brief peak season are so good after a long winter. Enjoy your asparagus!
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tiredys
October 22, 2021 at 1:19 PM
Ah, bacon wrapped asparagus is amazing.
I've only had venison steaks and sausages. Maybe BBQ? This website had a few interesting ideas: https://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/big-game-hunting/4-deer-recipes-to-die-for
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spazmo
October 22, 2021 at 7:35 PM
grilled or broiled prosciutto wrapped asparagus is DA BOMB...
*winks*
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beffels
October 22, 2021 at 8:43 PM
Yummm I think I know what’s going on my shopping list this week 😁
mmmmm
October 22, 2021 at 12:28 PM
I don’t know about anything else but I’d like to taste your stew.
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egads aka Dame Maggie
October 22, 2021 at 12:59 PM
I'm trying this one today because I saw a can of beer tucked in the back of the refrigerator. Did anyone leave it there? https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/food-cooking/recipes/a9844/beef-stew-with-beer-and-paprika/
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spazmo
October 22, 2021 at 7:40 PM
i'm drinking mine with soju....
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kadota
October 22, 2021 at 12:42 PM
Well said @egads. Food is a very welcome change of topic!
I've always liked the idea of butternut squash soup for autumn/winter but I haven't actually tried making it 😂
Not really a food per se but hot tea is definitely essential for this weather!
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egads aka Dame Maggie
October 22, 2021 at 12:57 PM
I always like the idea of squash soup but then I don't really like how it turns out. If you find a good one, share.
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Jance
October 22, 2021 at 1:19 PM
Adding coconut milk and mild curry powder is yum in a butternut squash soup. ^^
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beffels
October 22, 2021 at 2:50 PM
Also for kumara (sweet potato soup). Most pumpkin/butternut type soups I like curry or chilli in.
knewbie
October 22, 2021 at 7:18 PM
@beffels I prefer pumpkin and sweet potato in strong and/or spicy savoury dishes like curry. I think it's cos I tend to associate them with desserts and confectionary, so without the chilli or curry they just seem a bit wrong in a savoury item.
beffels
October 22, 2021 at 8:49 PM
@knewbie what you’re used to definitely makes a difference, I find pumpkin so weird in sweet dishes (pumpkin pie for instance is such a strange concept 😄) , it’s a savoury food here.
Ally
October 22, 2021 at 7:24 PM
My husband makes an amazing butternut squash soup with sautéed shrimp. I’ll find a recipe//but he never follows recipes! Here’s one: https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/food-network-kitchen/butternut-squash-bisque-with-shrimp-3894788.amp
We don’t do nuts at our house, so the almonds would be out.
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spazmo
October 22, 2021 at 7:42 PM
kabocha soup is my other fav! made some also to freeze in 1 C cubes for later use. usually i defrost/heat one up in the mornings because it's cool and rainy now in seattle...
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spazmo
October 22, 2021 at 7:45 PM
https://www.justonecookbook.com/kabocha-squash-soup/
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missvictrix
October 22, 2021 at 8:38 PM
^I loooove this website -- her recipes are great. The kenchinjiru and soy milk ramen are two of my go-to soup season favorites!
Yn00na
October 24, 2021 at 8:34 PM
Ooooo... Another fan of JOC site here as well.
Jance
October 22, 2021 at 1:18 PM
Tis the time of apple crumbles & custard.
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tiredys
October 22, 2021 at 1:24 PM
I'm all for making some chili and perhaps some lazy lasagna (shell pasta instead of lasagna pasta because lazy) this weekend.
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Ally
October 22, 2021 at 1:50 PM
I agree whole heartedly—about it being soup season and about real people and real lives and also loves. My favorite seasonally based food has to be stuffing. I’ll eat it all fall. And not even the good stuff-Stove top brand is all I need. Also, fresh spring rolls in the summer.
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egads aka Dame Maggie
October 22, 2021 at 1:52 PM
I LOVE stuffing. All leftover holiday stuffing is mine. I don't share.
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FlyingTool
October 22, 2021 at 2:35 PM
My mouth is watering…
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 3:24 PM
It’s fall, so it’s pie season. I know that’s not how pie works, but I strongly associate fall with things that go in pies: apples and pumpkins. 😂
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Beverly
October 22, 2021 at 4:06 PM
I love stew.
I remember having a fight with my mom over something long forgotten, but definitely my fault. Later that night I found her cooking stew. She'd went out and bought all the ingredients after the fight to make it for me because it was a favorite. Just as a loving gesture and with the hope that it would make me feel a little better.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 4:23 PM
I've been making lots of soups and stew this fall and buying organic sourdough. Sweet potato muffins are the morning fall favorite.
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FlyingTool
October 22, 2021 at 4:41 PM
Sujeonggwa (수정과) drink made with dried persimmons and ginger
Mandu-guk (만두국) dumpling soup
Yukgaejang (육개장) beef and vegetable stew
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6 Edgar Pordwed
October 22, 2021 at 10:43 AM
Please suggest, what to watch next? Yumi's Cells or The King's Affection? Also which are the best dramas this year for all of you'll? Missed so many dramas this year!
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egads aka Dame Maggie
October 22, 2021 at 11:04 AM
I would have to say Vincenzo is my favorite this year.
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Lixie
October 22, 2021 at 11:05 AM
Yumi is great. Mad for Each Other was excellent and Move to Heaven was also very nice.
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Kurama
October 22, 2021 at 12:02 PM
Move to Heaven was great!
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Kurama
October 22, 2021 at 11:19 AM
I like both! Yumi's Cell is almost over if you want to binge it (at least the first season).
This year, I liked :
- She Would Never Know (noona - romance office)
- Racket Boys (the cutest squad)
- You Are My Spring (Not the usual healing drama)
- On the Verge of Insanity (Never thought vacuum cleaners could be interesting)
- Vincenzo (The craziest squad)
- D.P. (Top notch acting!)
- Hometown Cha Cha Cha (A great rom-com)
I have eclectic tastes :p
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am1993
October 22, 2021 at 12:02 PM
My favourite 2021 dramas so far have been:
(In tentative order)
-Move to Heaven
-Vincenzo
-Hospital Playlist 2
-Racket Boys
-Beyond Evil
-Navillera
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mmmmm
October 22, 2021 at 12:35 PM
My faves in no particular order:
1. Darli and Gamjatang
2. Sell Your Haunted House
3. Hospital Playlist 2 (but I like ss1 a lot more)
4. Navillera
5. Nevertheless (most people hate this one though)
6. (I’m watching 18Again and it’s a very nice show.)
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Ally
October 22, 2021 at 1:53 PM
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kadota
October 22, 2021 at 12:54 PM
DP: a masterpiece
Move to Heaven: full of feels
Racket Boys: cute & wholesome
Vincenzo: unhinged operatic comedy
Verge of Insanity: dry comedy with a dose of reality
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am1993
October 22, 2021 at 1:15 PM
"Unhinged operatic comedy" is the best description of Vincenzo I have ever seen!
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 1:00 PM
I think Move to Heaven is my favorite of 2021, but I also liked DP and Racket Boys. Currently, I'm also really enjoying Dali & Gamjatang as well as Yumi's Cells.
The dramas that scored really well with everyone else sort of left me cold though, lol. There's no accounting for personal preference, I guess.
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Over-Dramaddictally
October 22, 2021 at 1:30 PM
I vote for Yumi's Cells! (Though The King's Affection is off to a good start)
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beffels
October 22, 2021 at 2:55 PM
It depends on what you like…some things I liked from earlier this year were Run On, Mouse, Mad For Each Other.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 4:26 PM
Run On is nice for a fairly angst free romance.
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 4:33 PM
I think I lost track of time and thought Run On was from 2020, lol. It was a genuine pleasure to watch--warm and uncomplicated.
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beffels
October 22, 2021 at 5:23 PM
I think it started in 2020 but ended in 2021? My memory is hazy though because the start of the year was several centuries ago, so I’m happy to be corrected if that’s wrong 😄
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Beverly
October 22, 2021 at 4:12 PM
I'm loving Dali right now. Has the feel of a classic Hollywood romcom.
A couple of years old and you may of watched it, but A Tale of Nokdu was delightful and I can't help but feel a little under rated.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 4:57 PM
Hello, Me was one of my favorites and Dali is shaping up to possibly be my favorite.
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wonhwa
October 22, 2021 at 5:23 PM
Beyond Evil is hands down the best 2021 kdrama I've watched so far. On the Verge of Insanity is quite good as well, and I'm thoroughly enjoying Dali and Gamjatang right now, although it has some annoying side characters.
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Ally
October 22, 2021 at 5:58 PM
Yumi’s cells is delightful.
Favorite show this year: Navillera
Other favs so far: Hello, Me!, Hometown Cha Cha Cha, Bossam, Run On.
Show that could have been so much better if not for the behind the scenes drama and the horrible score: River where the moon rises. Watch it for Kim So-hyun. I actually wrote a suite of BGM for this show to play on top of the actual score. 😂 https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLan98REOrWaQbMt5PhuO0a7jd0U5qCLxS
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Edgar Pordwed
October 31, 2021 at 10:54 AM
Wow heard a couple of them.. its beautiful Ally! Thanks!
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Ally
November 1, 2021 at 8:39 PM
Thanks! It was mindless and fun! Which makes me wonder what these composers were actually thinking for the score!
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lackingfive
October 25, 2021 at 1:38 AM
my best dramas (completed)
-racket boys
-move to heaven
-youth of may
-d.p
-on the verge of insanity
-vincenzo
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Edgar Pordwed
October 31, 2021 at 10:55 AM
Thank you everyone! 😁
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7 beffels
October 22, 2021 at 11:36 AM
Seeing as an adaptation of Little Women is being made, I was wondering if there are any other kdrama adaptations of Western classics? I’m thinking surely there must be but I’m drawing a blank.
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Kurama
October 22, 2021 at 12:01 PM
Cinderella's Stepsister and Cheongdamdong Alice (both with Moon Geun-Young) ; Tempted.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 4:30 PM
I've only seen two of those and wouldn't wish them on anyone, although I laughed through the one that's a melodrama before I found places to watch K-dramas online. I'm hoping that Little Women is far better.
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Kurama
October 22, 2021 at 11:15 PM
I think I liked Cinderella's Stepsister, MGY was really good in this role. I don't really remember Cheongdamdong Alice...
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 5:01 PM
I also feel like a warning is needed for Tempted. Yes, I watched it for the young actors, three of whom were wonderful. The adaptation is a very messy melo at best.
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Kurama
October 22, 2021 at 11:14 PM
I think I watched only the first episode of Tempted. The FL and her best friend were bad, so I dropped it.
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am1993
October 22, 2021 at 12:21 PM
I guess Start-Up could be considered a loose adaptation of the French classic Cyrano de Bergerac. Similarly, Surplus Princess could be a modern adaptation of The Little Mermaid.
Wasn't there a drama based on Hyde and Jekyll ?
It seems Kdrama adaptations of popular American/British tv shows and movies are much more common than adaptations of classic literature. Suits, Entourage, Criminal Minds, World of the Married, Life on Mars, 18 Again, The Good Wife...etc.
I'm looking forward to see how they adapt Little Women! I'm mostly wondering if they will keep it as a period piece.
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beffels
October 22, 2021 at 3:04 PM
I can’t believe I didn’t think of Jekyll and Hyde.
The Little Mermaid seems to be quite a popular motif (like having the book itself pop up to be a metaphor - My Girlfriend Is A Gumiho is the first one that comes to mind and is I guess a retelling in a way, but I’ve seen it pop up several times).
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 1:02 PM
I am convinced that My Lovely Sam Soon is a remake of Pride & Prejudice. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 22, 2021 at 1:42 PM
That's a shocking insult to Darcy
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Kurama
October 22, 2021 at 1:45 PM
He certainly had a more refined taste in terms of clothes :p
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 22, 2021 at 2:50 PM
I can't imagine Darcy ever smashing the wall beside the female lead's head or dragging Elizabeth around like a sack of potatoes or pursuing her only because his restaurant needs a good pastry chef. The male lead in Sam Soon was trash.
bbstl 🧹
October 22, 2021 at 2:42 PM
Wh-aaaaaaat???
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 3:09 PM
I’ll allow for some differences in plot realization, if only because 2005 Seoul isn’t the Regency.
I found Jin Heon deeply unlikable, but deeply relatable. But just as Elizabeth Bennett is much more important to Pride & Prejudice, the drama is really about Sam Soon. I will love her forever and back. That is all.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 22, 2021 at 3:17 PM
So true, Sam Soon was a fantastic female lead. I got through the whole thing for her. And despite what she thought, she really could have done better.
RK123
October 22, 2021 at 3:17 PM
Also, now that I’ve seen other dramas from the same writer, I get what Kim Do-woo was trying to do with Jin Heon (which she also does with other male leads).
He’s supposed to be awful, because he’s a representation of the sort of rubbish male leads that were so common in k-drama at one time. By having Sam Soon call Jin Heon out on his behavior, she’s saying something specific: this alpha male stuff, this childish posturing, it isn’t romantic; you don’t have to put up with it, until the guy grows up and comes to you on your terms. In 2005, that was practically revolutionary in a mainstream rom-com.
RK123
October 22, 2021 at 3:29 PM
IDK if it’s ok to share external links here (and if it’s not, apologies…please feel free to delete).
But I wrote thousands of words about My Lovely Sam Soon recently:
https://www.twenty-thoughts.com/post/20-thoughts-my-lovely-sam-soon
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 22, 2021 at 4:40 PM
Oh @hcatfan sharing external links is fine. I know I do. And if you're passionate enough about something you should share it.
FlyingTool
October 22, 2021 at 6:56 PM
Read your essay on Kim Sam Soon. Thoroughly enjoyed it, thanks!
Kurama
October 22, 2021 at 11:40 PM
Thank you for the return in the past! I should rewatch it :p
parkchuna is looking for an Emperor Penguin 🍉
October 27, 2021 at 7:29 AM
I enjoyed reading your words on SamSoon, thanks for sharing!
beffels
October 22, 2021 at 2:53 PM
Actually I think I remember thinking that when I was watching it. But then many many romances owe something to P&P.
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 3:19 PM
It’s the OG for sure!
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Beverly
October 22, 2021 at 4:15 PM
I was hoping to say P&P. Have never made that connection.
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Beverly
October 22, 2021 at 4:22 PM
Going to say not hoping to say.
Persuasion might be nice too.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 22, 2021 at 1:41 PM
The other day we starting to flesh out a Three Kingdoms Sageuk adaptation of Pride and Prejudice starring Chae Soobin
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
October 22, 2021 at 1:43 PM
When a typo just hangs there in mid air and you can't fix it before it's inevitably posted...
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Beverly
October 22, 2021 at 4:24 PM
Anne of Green Gables.
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 4:29 PM
Oooo. One of my favorite books! Which drama is based on Anne of Green Gables?
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Beverly
October 22, 2021 at 4:36 PM
Oh no! I read that wrong. I thought Beffels was asking what classics should be adapted.
And now thinking of it I wouldn't mind more of a reimagining so that I can have Gong Yoo as Gilbert.
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RK123
October 22, 2021 at 4:38 PM
Ah, ok. No worries, because now I'm intrigued.
Who would you have breaking the slate over poor Gong Yoo Blythe's head though?
Beverly
October 22, 2021 at 4:51 PM
@hcatfan that image...🤣🤣🤣.
That is hard. I'm not sure how I'd cast it. Either a more true adaptation with actors in the age range or a not so true one besides Gong Yoo.
I adored the books bit read them after seeing the Sullivan adaptation and so those actors were imprinted on me.
Who would be the right Anne?
beffels
October 22, 2021 at 5:17 PM
That’s an interesting question too though! I’d like to see an adaptation of Anne of Green Gables - it would be interesting to see how it would work with the cultural attitude to orphans.
RK123
October 22, 2021 at 6:18 PM
@beffels I wonder if the context would be that the Korean version of Anne is a poor relative the Korean version of the Cuthberts have to taken in rather than being adopted?
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beffels
October 22, 2021 at 7:39 PM
There are lots of possibilities. I can already imagine the absolute buckets of tears when the Matthew character dies because kdramas are Very good at making me cry and so is that part of the story so the combo would be lethal.
(This is how much of a sap I am: I really struggle to re-read this section (and others) because they are too sad for me).
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Kurama
October 22, 2021 at 11:22 PM
Anne with E was soo good. It sucks they didn't renew it! >_<
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knewbie
October 23, 2021 at 5:24 AM
I think some K-dramas use tropes that are common in western literature, like star-crossed lovers from warring factions or a wronged hero/heroine rising from the ashes to take revenge under a new identity.
Honest-to-goodness adaptations of western classics may be a bit more common in Korean cinema, but still quite few and far between. I can only think of Park Chan-wook's Thirst (a version of Zola's Therese Raquin); E J-yong's Untold Scandal (Choderlos de Laclos' Les Liaisons dangereuses). Adaptations of more contemporary novels include Park Chan-wook's The Handmaiden (Sarah Water's Fingersmith) and Kim Sung-ho's How to Steal a Dog (Barbara O'Connor's children's novel of the same name).
At the moment, I think we're more likely to see film and drama adaptations of webtoons than anything else.
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8 TurtuallySarcastic
October 22, 2021 at 2:49 PM
Happy weekend Beanies and keep Beaning On!
Tomorrow is D-day. My warrior friend is performing a musical medley concert with her musical group and I am attending. My k-drama friend is coming over to attend as well and will be staying the night. Two years ago this was a regular occurrence, but since then a pandemic and panic disorder with agoraphobia happened. A month ago I wished this could be possible again and my therapist delivered by challenging me to leave the house every day, and here I am!💪
Aside from an important goal, D-day is also a reward. The unpleasant work phone call last week made me feel very anxious this week, which made leaving the house and keeping up with household chores and other therapy assignments extra exhausting and terrifying. On top of that there was a communication error from the post office that claimed my sick notes had not reached my employer’s medical department yet, while in fact they had safely arrived on Monday already.😒 Quite frustrating that was, but also a big relief!
Frustration, like all forms of anger, is not always a bad thing. Whenever I was not feeling scared this week, I was feeling anger towards my boss instead. My therapist is very proud of me for this, because I am starting to let myself feel anger and I am learning to accept that I did not deserve such treatment. What I do deserve, is to get better, and what better than to do something fun in the presence of friends?☺️
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 4:34 PM
I hope it goes well and you have a wonderful time. You deserve it.
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TurtuallySarcastic
October 23, 2021 at 2:22 AM
So do I, thank you for the kind words! :)
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FlyingTool
October 22, 2021 at 7:04 PM
Have a wonderful time out with your friends. Fighting!
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TurtuallySarcastic
October 23, 2021 at 2:22 AM
Thank you for the support! :)
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bbstl 🧹
October 23, 2021 at 4:02 PM
Oh my heavens, just LOOK at everything you accomplished this week! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼, seriously!
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TurtuallySarcastic
October 24, 2021 at 8:32 AM
Thank you for the sweet encouragement! :)
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sirena
October 24, 2021 at 10:10 AM
I hope that you had a wonderful time :)
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TurtuallySarcastic
October 24, 2021 at 2:56 PM
I certainly did, thank you! :)
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sirena
October 25, 2021 at 8:05 AM
I'm glad :)
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9 spazmo
October 22, 2021 at 7:58 PM
my dilemma:
turned a girlfriend onto Mr Sunshine, her first kdrama! she LOVED IT!
now, what do i do to recommend another? she loves the historical dramas (like The Crown, Downton Abbey)...
i checked out the first eps of The Princess' Man - the production is terrible!! i thought it was lovely when i watched it way back when, but compared to now -- the production value/cinematography/lighting/sound... awful in comparison. looks cheesy, like the 80s Dynasty series in the USA.... same for The Tree With Deep Roots - production/staging/lighting is awful (in comparison to today's productions)....
my daughter warned me that i set the bar too high... any recent recommendations for sageuk that i can pass along?
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 8:23 PM
Queen for Seven Days. My Country if she doesn't care too much about the politics making sense (because so much is left out including time skips), or strong female characters. Nokdu for a more fun take.
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mugyuljoie is preciousss
October 22, 2021 at 8:26 PM
The Talking Cupboard has an awesome sageuk timeline that might jog your memory.
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