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Open Thread #741

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Time to move -

Its merely a change in a digit but its a big change in the lives of everyone. I don't believe in wishes and all so gonna say things straight as i always do - Do as things come - not make rules - I'm gonna break a lot of rules too - Time to show that you are free.

No need to do - i'm gonna try this n that or try to do this and that - let's try to fly with the flow of mother earth and mother nature.

And atleast make a comment here once in a while - I always attend the weekly get together.

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A closed system is a system that is completely isolated from its environment in contrast to an open system that flows of information, energy, and/or matter between the system and its environment, and which adapts to the exchange. A closed creative loop is now happening in Korean entertainment.

As the Korea Times reported, Korean dramas adapted from celebrated webcomics, also known as "webtoons" in Korea, have become the new recipe for success as directors and screenwriters seek binge­worthy story lines for the small screen in genres including family drama, comedy, romance, action, thriller and horror. Some of the most highly talked about K­dramas this year, including Netflix original series "D.P.," "Hellbound" as well as tvN's "Yumi's Cells," started as webtoons.

Producing dramas based on webtoons became possible thanks to rich story lines and original content. Buoyed by the growing popularity of such dramas, directors have teased audiences with the potential for second seasons since webtoons often have long story arcs. This speculation has also seen webtoons increase even more in popularity. Originally, webtoons were secondary source material for small drama and web productions. It has now become mainstream source material.

While the production of films and series using webtoons is nothing new, there have conversely been recent attempts to create webtoons inspired by popular TV dramas. This closes the gap between content creators to merge fields. This puts webtoon creators and publishers on equal footing with established film writers and studios.

TvN's "Happiness" and SBS's "Our Beloved Summer" are two of the latest examples where webtoons were released just weeks after their related shows went to air on TV. Although webtoon versions typically have the same title, setting and characters, they are often spinoffs that focus on a completely different story line or center on characters' past experiences or as a prequel to the original story.

Industry officials say these romantic comedy dramas are suitable for webtoon formats as their stories and genres target young consumers. Also having successful intellectual property (IP) in one content format that can be expanded into other forms, referred to as "one source, multi­use," is likely to push webtoon's global popularity to a new level while assuring profit.

"Creator­ owned webtoons are great, but webtoons inspired by dramas guarantee a certain level of readership among drama fans. Making relevant use of already existing content can also lead to the increase of IP­based earnings," said an official at Jaedam Media, a webtoon and web novel production studio.

The growth of the webtoon content market, which saw combined sales top 1 trillion won ($842 million) for the first time last year, also contributed to this phenomenon. Until recently, webtoons were unable to reach global audiences unlike dramas that are available across the world thanks to streaming...

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... services. "Whenever webtoon­based dramas or films get released, audiences like to compare them with the original content. The same applies to the reverse situation when drama­based webtoons are unveiled," Jang Min­gi, a professor of media communications at Kyungnam University, wrote in Hallyu White Paper 2020.

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Thank you for this interesting and substantive comment. While the synergy between webtoons and adapted KDramas has produced some wonderful recent shows as you noted, this ‘closed system’ could become really stifling if some worthwhile stories are shut out because they are not published as more mainstream webtoons.

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Happy New Year everyone!!!!

I wish you a good year 2022! Be healthy watching a lot of Kdramas!

Thank you for spending 2021 on Dramabeans with me, it's my happy place!

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Happy New Year everyone
2021 passed by in a flash didn't it?
Here's hoping that 2022 is more meaningful to all of us. Obviously wishing for more good dramas for us to watch but also everyone's real life to be happy and fulfilling so that we don't always rush to find escapism in dramas.

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Happy new year everyone. K dramas and Dramabeans made 2021 much more bearable. Thank you guys

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I was writing my list of best things happened to me this year and you won't believe out of 6 things 2 of them are:
1. Watching FOS and getting into kdramas
2. Discovery of Beanies land!

2021 gave some major reality checks, things just kept happening and all the plans and forecasting went into hole. So no goals this year, just made a mental note of going back to some habits (running, waking up early)
Going into this year with zero expectations, Bring it on 2022!

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Thank you for being here, benies. ^^
Have a wonderful year!

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Happy new years, beanies! May your 2022 be a happy one!

I'm so looking forward to the final episodes of Red Sleeve this weekend and the dashing Sam Niell in Ivanhoe. It's a new year's day tradition of my country to show Ivanhoe and the smoldering Brian de Bois-Guillbert grows more dashing by the year.

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Happy New Year to all who contribute to this site! I'd like to echo those who say that their discovery of Dramabeans was a highlight of their year. Certainly it was one of mine! Of the many excellent writers and commentators here, I want to broadcast a special thank you to @missvictrix who (maybe?) is one of the site founders? As a recent reader, I don't know the history of Dramabeans. I've always appreciated her recaps, and her thoughtful essay this fall on the popularity of Squid Games was one of the things that got me hooked on a weekly, sometimes daily checking of Dramabeans content.

This week, I went back in the site archives and read some of her other essays from several years back, like the very funny "PPL: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" (Dec. 26, 2018), the revealing historical essay "Don't Call My K-Drama a Soap: (Jan 16, 2019), and then my favorite, "I Need Romance?" (Oct. 20th 2019)--which spawned some great reader's comments. Then there was the one that really opened my eyes to a form of K-drama I just wasn't getting, "Behind the Noona Romance."
I was always bothered by the agonizing the so-called older women did in these romances, and I thought (as an older male -- not so called) that it was really pretty sexist. Older men and younger women are commonly paired in U.S. movies and t.v. without any sort of comment.

But @missvictrix made the excellent point that regardless of the double standard, in fact these women were being allowed a choice in love, and angst these noona romances depicted was the result of reflections about love's role in personal growth that maybe wasn't a commonplace theme for young women in the standard K-romance.
This insight really helped account for what really bothered me about an otherwise enjoyable women's empowerment drama Search: WWW. Why was Bae Tami torn up for 10 episodes about the fact that a young, intelligent, talented, sensitive hunk not only was deeply in love with her, but also really respected her as a successful businesswoman and wanted to have an exemplary romantic relationship? Granted, he was considerably younger, but still not so much that people would notice. After reading "Behind the Noona Romance" though, I realized, somewhat grudgingly, that the writers were using Bae Tami's mental turmoil over her romance as a stand-in for her uncertainty over her career.
Even so--I still kind of grumble thinking about that "reconciliation" where she hugs (HUGS!) her young lover after an agonizing breakup, while whispering in his ear that they probably won't stay together long. I get a more passionate response from my dog when returning after a brief grocery shopping trip!
Anyway, my mixed response to the romance in Search: WWW aside, I have no such reservations about @missvictrix's work. I know many here have read all these essays already, but if you haven't definitely check them out. They will expand your appreciation of the upcoming...

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The founder was javabeans. If you click on "about us" below, you can read more about her and girlfriday. I encourage you to read some of their recaps and recommendations. Under "Recaps & News" you'll find Editor Ratings with a list of their recommendations.

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Thanks for the clarification. I'll be sure to do so!

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@hacja Thank you for the kind words, and always happy to hear about new people that find the site and fall in love with it like I did many many moons ago! While I can't take credit for anything DB, and it was around long before I was, it sure is a privilege to work for the site and be a part of the community! ♥

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Happy New Year and a happy weekend Beanies!🎆

Every last/first OT of the (new) year I reread the new year resolutions I made on OT the year before and share an update with you all. I quit last year because covid took the fun out of it, but I went to reread my first OT of 2021 anyway. I should not have done that.

Last year I ordered Beanies to keep healing and beaning on, as a new year resolution for 2021. Every beanie can only decide for themselves whether they lived up to that order or not. It saddened me to realize that I was not able to follow this order myself.

Everything good to come in 2021 turned out to be very bad for me, and as the yearly naïve feelings of hope and excitement for the new year kick in, I cannot help but feel apprehensive about the year 2022. I guess I can dare to hope that next year I will be reading this post with a big smile on my face?🙏

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May your 2022 be better than the preceding year. You've been working hard to make that happen.

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Thank you Mugy!❤️

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One day at a time, Turtie! Wishing you a truly fulfilling New Year.

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Thank you bbstl!❤️

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Happy New Years!

I have two goals this year that I actually feel pretty good about.

Some kdrama New Year wishes for you all in 2022:

That your co workers always bring you a cup of coffee.

That you have a closet full of beautiful coats and sweaters to keep you warm this winter.

That when it rains someone always has an umbrella to lend you.

And that if you fall in love or are already in love that there are no serial killers.

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“… kdrama New Year wishes…”

Such a perfectly apt wish for Beanies! Thank you.

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Don't forget the tripping. I need to know somebody is there to catch me when I fall.
Happy New Year!

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Total non sequitur, “Catch me when I fall” sounded like a song title, and so I googled it… and it sure is. Are you familiar with it?

Happy New Year!

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Not specifically, although it's quite a common repeated meme. I think the most famous one is probably the lyrics to Cyndi Lauper's Time After Time. And there's another one I just can't think of at the moment...

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😂 that last one!

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Could it be... "catch me if you can I'm feeling down. And I do appreciate you being 'round. Help me get my feet back on the ground".
Perhaps?

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Beverly that is hilarious! may all your wishes come true. ESPECIALLY the lack of serial killers in your life. :-)

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Oh Beanies somehow another year is gone!
I was thinking the other day that I've been active on this site for very nearly 5 years now. 2017 was when I started posting here on a regular basis, although it wasn't until the end of that year that I set myself up on the fan wall.
It's rather bizarre and amazing to think that everyone here has been such a big part of my life for such a long time.
It's been a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad... century, really. And I couldn't have made it without all of you.
To quote the man (or woman in this case)... Keep Beaning On!

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Hi Beanies! Anyone have any favorite methods/mechanisms for group watching that work well? Figured I would ask the experts! ;)

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I think Kosmi is a popular choice for some beanies who group watch.

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Hi Everyone! Hope you're all doing well.

Wishing each and every one of you a very Happy New Year! As always, your comments and your humor continue to make Dramabeans such fun place to visit and hang out in. Thanks for keeping this viewer company. Kdramas wouldn't be the same without our dear Beanies!

May 2022 be so much better for each and every one of us, full of good, positive things and fantastic shows to enjoy, of course! :)

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Happy New Year @korfan!

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Happy new year everyone! I hope it is better than the last couple have been.

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Dear Beanies: old Beanies, fresh Beanies, lurkers, posters and some Beanies in the pot 9 days old.
I thank you for insight, history, squee, support, comradeship analysis, humor, perspective and conviviality. This was a tough year for nearly everyone on Earth. United by our love of Kdrama we have helped each other survive 2021.
Sincerest wishes that 2022 gets brighter and lighter and healthier. Hope we get some knock-your-socks-off dramas to enjoy as well. Happy New Year!

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Joining in the well-wishes for the coming new year! May 2022 be kinder, more satisfying than the last. May we all keep our loves by our side and may we be closer to achieving whatever we wish for or dream of. Happy 2022, beanies! You are a bright spot to my days.

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Happy new year, Beanies! I really don't know how I would have fared these last few years without this community. May this year bring us more good dramas and more good things in life ✨

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Not Friday anymore but I guess I have to post about "Succession". Just started watching Season 1.
Maybe this is more appropriate for What We Are Watching, but it is so not Kdrama. Actually it is SO Kdrama. It's chaebol on a global scale. Based on the Rupert Murdough conglom but essentially a family drama. Great writing, tight acting, perfect pacing. This is giving me "The Wire" feels. My very young co-workers said they stayed up binge watching this show over the holidays and I can see the draw.
Instead of re-writing CLOY for the western audience - do this drama for South Korea. Studio Dragon, are you listening?

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Succession is one of the greatest TV shows ever. HBO has produced another masterpiece for the books.

Song Joongki's upcoming Chaebol drama might be your answer to a Korean Succession. The grandfather character sounds like Logan Roy, and where Succession is based on the Murdoch family, the Chaebol webtoon is based on the Samsung family.

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I highly recommend F4 Thailand: Boys Over Flowers

Only 2 episodes have aired so far and they are perfect
I honestly can't stop thinking about how they have updated this story into a much much better story than the source material or any other version has been before it
The acting...The character interpretations...The set...The production value...everything is just so great.

Highlights:
No long drawn out setup for how the FL ended up in the school... it begins and she's already a student.
The FL's family is so nicely done.
I❤ them
The ML has motivations for being a bully outside of simply "rich spoiled brat" (though there is that too, obviously) so he's much more sympathetic right away. I'm rooting for his character, which is never the case for me at this stage

And so much more!

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