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Our Beloved Summer: Episodes 13-14 Open Thread

Our couple might be back together and happy as two clams, but there’s still some work to be done to address their emotional baggage. The same goes for our supporting characters; as each person faces their mountain, they can either choose to forge ahead, or give up the fight.

 
EPISODES 13-14 WEECAP

After the peak that was last week’s episodes, we have a much quieter set of episodes, mostly focusing on the old conflicts, history, and internal work that needs to be done. Or faced.

Woong and Yeon-su are in their dating bliss, and are beyond adorable. They clearly deserve every happiness and will make the best couple ever… but first, those pesky unresolved issues. Woong might have come clean about his — opening up to Yeon-su about his adoption and abandonment fears — but Yeon-su has yet to reciprocate.

It’s quite telling that their last breakup was built around, and crystallized thoughts around, both of their vulnerable points. For Woong, being abandoned, and for Yeon-su, not knowing how to love herself. While it feels like Woong has made so much progress in maturing, poor Yeon-su still has some growing to do.

It’s a bit on the heavy side, for sure, but it’s tempered with cute dating and other hijinks. Yeon-su asks her coworker how to date, and she gets some (actually decent) insight, but just can’t execute on it properly at all. The outcome is hilarious, Woong is confused, and he winds up confessing such great healing words to her — that he loves her for who she is. That’s exactly the sort of thing Yeon-su needs to believe about herself, so spot on, Woong.

Woong also knows their painful breakup is something they need to address, and he openly asks Yeon-su why they broke up. She runs away to avoid facing it (quite literally), but it’s touching, too, because in flashback we see the miscommunication that happened. That she did try to explain herself to him, but Woong was so completely drunk and fumbling with the phone that he missed it.

While Woong and Yeon-su don’t make much headway with their issues yet, they’re well on the way (with Woong well-informed thanks to granny, and in Wait Mode), and our attention turns to our supporting characters for much of the episodes this week. And that’s not a complaint, because I do love them — especially this amazing budding romance between Eun-ho and Sol-yi. Bring it onnnn. Their relationship has got such a fun balance of comic relief — and actual romance — that it’s super fun to watch unfold.

Eun-ho finds himself spending more time at Sol-yi’s restaurant, and their lives seem to overlap more and more. Whether he’s saving her forgotten clams, having a spit take over her blind date outfit, or wrangling with her ex in a pitch perfect and hilarious cameo by Kang Ki-doong — something is a’brewing.

Our other side characters are a little more serious, and shed light on the themes we’ve been exploring with Woong and Yeon-su. Ji-woong, like Yeon-su, needs to confront his issues instead of ignoring them. Just as Yeon-su’s voiceover tells us: The more you ignore the past the more you’re trapped in it.

Funny enough, although Ji-woong can barely help himself, he can help others, and he gives the dejected NJ some beautiful advice. This girl is at a serious crossroads in her life — much more than just being disappointed over a crush — and I really like the depth the drama is giving to her story. You can feel her isolation and her loneliness in the life that she’s living. Ji-woong’s advice that the quality of her life is about her mindset and attitude is, again, great.

I love Ji-woong so much, but I grow tired of seeing him suffer. The plot line with his mother is a weird mix of necessary, heartbreaking, and annoyingly predictable… but beyond that part of Ji-woong’s story, it’s that dang dinner with Yeon-su that killed me. Absolutely killed me.

Yeon-su visits Ji-woong where he’s “living” in the editing room. She’s so amazingly clueless that he’s in love with her — it fits her perspective of herself, but it also works to cause Ji-woong even more pain, I think. She’s friendly and thoughtful and the two share a meal — chatting until Yeon-su innocently asks, “Why won’t you look up at me?” Knife through the heart. You can literally feel his struggle to keep feigning nonchalance, and that battle to let go of this woman that will never even be aware of his feelings for her. I want to go cry in the corner.

At long last, the documentary is released, and is a huge success. Woong has a throng of new fangirls, while Ji-woong continues along with an insouciance that’s hard to know if it’s real or just another barrier he’s built himself. With these happy times comes shared lunches and teams dinners, and that means PPL and extraneous dialogue (but we’ll forgive them).

Finally, as our episode ends, we hit the clincher for both storylines — why we’ve been lingering on Woong’s pile of mail, and why Yeon-su’s dear grandma has been trying to make sure her granddaughter is taken care of. I’m all for stories coming full circle — and yes, this is dramaland and grandmas must pass and overseas trips must present themselves — but I don’t know if my heart is ready for all of this.

Yeon-su is going to have to deal with a lot. I’m sure it will lead her to a good place, but I can feel the pain from here. I’d love to go out of this drama on a lighter note, so hopefully the trauma and grief will be brief, and we’ll tie things up with the beautiful, bittersweet, and healing tone we’ve come to expect from this drama.

 
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So i keep asking myself, where is the comedy?
Yes "Love Actually" was a lesson in relationship dysfunction - just look it up. But "Life Is Beautiful" was about making incarceration in a Nazi concentration camp a good experience for a child.
I saw the title of ep 14 but had to venture out into the life I live today. I kept thinking about that film as I did my stuff and remembered how much I loved it.
The ML called his wife "Principessa" because she was of a wealthy family. She fell in love with his happy attitude about life and they lived in contentment in the years before WW2. Not so much later.
Is the theme "decide to be happy"? I think so. What's the alternative?

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Maybe the English translation was wrong and the title of the episode rather “Life is wonderful” by franck Capra, 1946, which is considered one of the 20th best movies ever?…

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Ps. It’s a wonderful life

Note that in French both movies are translated the same, “La vie est belle”

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인생은 아름다워
Life is Beautiful is the literal translation of the Korean title.

Life is wonderful would be along the lines of
인생은 훌륭하다

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@hebang - I am (happily) embarrassed that I can’t stop telling Beanies that I can now read Hangeul, get the pronunciations mostly ok for a beginner and even understand some of the 한국어 words. I am also learning more grammar and the sentence structure is very slowly imprinting on my brain. 만세!
So glad you understand and read 한국어!

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The movie reference of each episode so far does not correspond greatly with the content. I take it more the production team / writer’s tribute to their own favorites. There are some other ‘Life is Beautiful’ around beside Beningni’s - such as my fav Korean family drama ‘Life is Beautiful’ back in 2010 and the upcoming Korean musical film Life is Beautiful - although I concur this BoS reference is the former.

Thanks for the very prompt recap @missvictrix. With two episodes remaining, there are certainly things to tidy up - would YS finally come clean and be frank as grandma’s health deteriorates, Woong’s wish to study in France, JW granting his mother’s wish of a documentary or not, would NJ find her inner peace, and our poor PD assistant’s unrequited love. And Woong’s real father seems lurking around too…

Despite our sailing into calmer sea these two episodes, I tear up so much and such is the spell of this drama on me.

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Oh, so you think that brief scene of the guy near the restaurant was Woong's real father? Interesting.

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That it was his father was my immediate thought. I don't know who else it could be, it is very nth hour Kdrama shenanigans. However I feel the show will handle it well.

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That was my first thought as well and i'm sure he is the one...Found him after seeing him on TV more than sure

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That's an interesting theory about the dad! (but how would he know what he looks like now that he's so old. unless dad followed Woong the kid all the way home to where his current parents are).

And on the movie titles - I agree - the movies themselves have nothing to do with the episode content. The titles are just incidental. Anyone trying to read more into this is working too hard. I gave up trying to make any connections in week2 only.

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Woong is now a well known figure - just not sure if the father has been hovering around only now or for quite some time (since the first documentary).

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My cinical side would say now that he is famous and has money

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I also thought that figure hiding by the restaurant was Ung's dad.

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When they showed someone lurking I immediately thought it was Woong's biological father, which would usually annoy me, but I think it will be handled well here. Woong may have abandonment issues, but he's actually pretty well adjusted. His parents are his parents and he loves them and knows they love him. I think he just needs to hear why his dad left him like that so the wound can start to heal.

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Thanks for that super quick recap, @missvictrix ! It captures everything that transpired this week beautifully. I maintain this is not the best written story out there, but the leads really keep it together.

I liked especially that the side characters got a lot more airtime this week than previously. If only they'd done this 10 episodes earlier, I'd have been much happier. Well-rounded side characters was an important USP of RUN ON, and that was a key missing ingredient here - until now.

I've been wanting JinJoo to get her day in the sun for the longest - she's one of the best poker faced comediennes I've seen in kdramaland. thank goodness she gets her due.

Other than that, I feel the elephants in the room are being tackled very slowly - by Yeonsu and Ji-woong especially. Even Woong's adoption and relationship with his parents was only incidentally referenced in the previous week. I hope everything finds its way to a satisfactory resolution.

And NJ - oh NJ! - she has such an interesting story. I keep wondering how I would have received it if the role were handled by a stronger actress. *sigh*

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For NJ, I keep seeing the youngest kid from Cheer Up Mr. Kim (lol!). Gotta let these kid actors grow-up, and it is fun to watch how they evolve!

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Oh, I like RJE, I've always liked her and I like the way she's portraying NJ.

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Oh, I actually think the actress playing Nj is doing a good job, the scene of her sitting and eating by herself showed how lonely she was. At least to me that was immediately apparent.

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Roh Jeong-eui is a good actress with great future, in fact she has the longest career (12 years!) among the four lead actors/actress. I do have great impression on her performance as the younger self of the character Park Shin-hye was playing in Pinocchio (2014-15), and she was the daughter of two leads in 18 Again (2020), so I have faith on her.

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Oh I didn't realize she's been around for so long. I have watched her in 18 Again. I'll have to agree to disagree with you on our views on her acting :) at least in this show!

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This drama is so my happy place. It hits just the right balance between funny and deep. It is one of the few dramas I really don't want to end yet.

The more we see of Woong, the more I love him. The show has slowly revealed how he really is a grown-up now, and not a kid. He is quirky, and seemingly kid-like on the surface, but actually quite mature.

Ji-woong is the one character that needs some growth. He hasn't changed much during the show. Filming his dying mother to achieve this seems too rushed. And, I must admit, coveting your best friends girlfriend for 10 years is not my favorite theme.

Eun-ho's strategy to get rid of the ex was just why I love this show. Rather than getting all testosterony and macho, he just enlightened the ex about Sol-yi's financial status. Simple and effective!

There was another scene in ep 13 that made me laugh out loud, but I can't remember it now -- An 'excuse' to watch it again? lol!

Thanks for the great recap!

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"Tears that I pretended I didn’t know
Confessions that I postponed to tomorrow …
Come to me. Put it down
Lean on me. Take a break here
Always I’ll be your home
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These are the last lines of one of Our Beloved Summer OSTs, the name of the song is Home. The song has end almost every episode of this drama, especial the last 4.

This is especially poignant for Episode 14. "Let's live together forever," when the song begins, Yeonsu asks (or should I say, begs) her grandma, "Don't go anywhere. Stay by my side for a very long time." Then she cries, "Everyone else may dislike me, but I know you don't, right ... So don't go anywhere, stay by my side."

"I don't ever want to be alone again."

Love ones come and go, which is natural. Not so many leave like Guido Orefice, he marches off before the empty tin box where his son Giosuè hiding, smiling, to meet his death, because he knows his son still has his mother. Yeonsu Grandma knows Yeonsu is not alone, for she knows she has Woong, but Yeonsu is so alone, and so used to grandma's companion, she doesn't realize it. If Yeonsu's grandma is the tin box Giosuè is hiding in, then Woong is the whole wide world outside, with the tank ride waiting for her.

Woong has grown up, more or less, but Yeonsu has not. She is still in the box, and has not come out to claim the tank ride, her winning prize. (1 of 3)

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This is why Life is Beautiful is the most fitting tribute for Episode 14, @jossie4cheryl. Each episode is paying tribute to one movie, but it has never been so fitting then the last 2 episodes. For Episode 13, Love Actually doesn't only mean Woong and Yeonsu is actually falling in love again; in the Epilogue, Chae-ran even tells Jiwoong his relationship with Yeonsu is exactly like this scene in the movie, "What's going to be your ending?" she asks. "I'm not sure," and he answers, "I'm not in a movie, I'm in a documentary." Ironically, Jiwoong's answer is actually made by himself, as he tells NJ: The quality of you life base on your own mindset and attitude. (2 of 3)

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It maybe coincident, but all 4 of our leads are so lonely; some due to career hazardous, like NJ, some are intentionally closing themselves, like Yeonsu, or a mix of the two, like the two Woongs. It may feel save inside the tin box, but one day we have to go out, so that we can claim that tank ride, or otherwise we get to be starved to death. This is why I think Life is Beautiful is the most fitting tribute among all of them. (3 of 3)

(Other then @jossie4cheryl, Ialso cc to @epyc2010, which I think I have a very different opinion about the reference of the movie--because I think you both are looking at the wrong place)

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A side note: I guess Woong tells Yeonsu "I am so stupid you have to tell me" doesn't mean he in fact is stupid, but he want her to tell him what she want. as a person always put her pain inside herself, Yeonsu must tell so that she can heal (and not make those pain goes paralysis, as Jiwoong told NJ last week about crushing oneself without other knowing).

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OBS wasn't available in my zone until a couple of weeks ago, so I started watching and then I was able to trick Netflix and finally could binge last week so here I am, totally hooked to this beautiful story.

When I first began watching as much as I loved our couple and the setting I kept repeating myself these two could never end up together, because in real life it doesn't matter how much you love each other or how attracted you feel to each other, this whole "Love you/break up/love you/break up" can never work, an to me the problem was they never actually talked to each other. Love is not enough. Communication is needed.

And then, drama gives me these episodes and I am rooting for them, because the pace has been the correct one: two adults living adults lives, leaving behind the struggles and doubts they had in the past and ready to start facing what did they wrong in the past. Both YeonSu and Ung are willing to stay by the other and not repeating the past. YeonSu has been learning to love herself, even admitting to attend a work dinner and smile openly, even if she is still struggling.

I loved Ung following her and telling her he would be by her side and telling himself he would always be even if he doesn't know exactly why they broke up the last time (although he's not totally clueless) and that he will be there for her, and that they should talk. About everything and nothing. He's breaking down YeonSu's walls and ultimately he will learn and comfort her the way she comforted him when he told her about him being abandoned.

As for our side couples, I can't agree more on how absolutely adorable Eunho and Solyi are, both in denial of the attraction they feel to each other and bickering around, not being able to be away from the other for long. Also about NJ being a much deeper character than expected (RJE is amazing as always) and JiUng needing to be happy and not living in the sadness he's installed himself, although I can understand because he's losing his love and his best friend in his mind. Up to this point I don't think his crush on YeonSu is real but the need to be a crush.

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Aaaah Yeon-Su is so frustrating! I like her but she's so clueless. She wants their relationship to work this time but doesn't realize that acting cute is not the solution. They need to adress their difficulties and not hidding them. Ung talked about his fear of abandonment. It's like their trip at the beach, Ung was very clear about it, and she lived the whole day like she wanted.It's sad because she keeps everything for her. She didn't want to hurt her grandma, so she hide the reason of her break-up....
At least, she is ready to enjoy life now and I'm happy for her.

It's not a good thing to be a grandma/grandpa in Kdramas, I got the impression they all died in the past year. I'm not sure that the sickness or death of the grandma is necessary to bring them closer. I would have prefered a more natural way. Does she need to be at the bottom of the hole before getting better, really?

Ji-Woon's story is pretty painful to watch. But he kinda accepted it too. He could stop his mother to come. I wonder why she wants to be filmed, who will watch it? Does Ji-Woon will want to watch a film about his absent mother?

NJ is the breath of fresh air. I like how she handles her pain. She's really fun to watch.

Eun-ho is kinda the perfect boyfriend :p

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I found Ep 13’s romcom hijinks tonally dissonant as it just didn’t convince me that Yeonsu who thinks, reflects and analyses things would accept any advice and then appear so clueless. I would have wanted her to reach out sincerely without the forced and stilted humour which for me fell very flat. I like Yeonsu so much and am on her side no matter what even if the initial impression undermined her courage, shortchanged her sacrifice and indicated that she sabotaged her own happiness as well as Ung’s. I ached for her sorrow and fear of being left behind without halmoni in Ep 14. I viscerally get that fear.

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I thought it was kinda weird. She knows they need to work on their relationship to not end like 5 years ago but in the same time she wants to forget the break-up and acts like nothing happened.

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But don't you think the hijinks were not just played for laughs, but showed Yeon-su trying to escape what she fears will happen again? And, as @missvictrix said in her recap, the advice really wasn't bad--it was just totally counter to her personality and to the long standing relationship. She quickly realized it, and it also allowed that great and loving reassurance from Ung.
The rom-com tone did not continue, so I think the dissonance was on purpose on the writers part, showing both her insecurities and illustrating how the "documentary" tone of the show differed from more conventional rom-coms. But maybe I'm giving the show too much credit.

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@hacja- You make an excellent point. I hope that is the case. I might have been swayed by my second-hand embarrassment to forget that it was intentional.

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Lol they put both Grandma and Ji Woong's mother on the death row to bring closure to our lead trio. I wish they had twisted these situations as well like they did with Eun ho. His way of dissuading potential girlfriend's exboyfriend was different and effective. Same effect, evolved technique.

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Eun-ho is adorable and sly even more this week...Him and Sol Yi would make a fun couple...

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I had some mixed reactions to these two episodes. I liked the comic scenes in episode 13--the date was funny, and Woong gulping down the jujube tea when Yeon-su said she'd sleep over made me laugh out loud. In fact, I was wondering--is there an inside cultural joke about jujubes, since they appeared in two episodes of reconciliation, beyond the fact the tea is supposed to make you "sleep" better?

On the other hand, although Woong is clearly maturing, I was hoping for a little more character development in each of these episodes, since that's the real strength of this series rather than dramatic plot shifts -- I would have liked to see some greater self-realization from Yeon-Su and (especially) from Ji-Woong.
Of course in some ways Ji-Woong is playing a stock figure in rom-coms--the sufferer of unrequited love who (we hope) eventually realizes its time to move on and find his "real" true love. That's complicated a little bit by the fact that his Mom abandoned him, so he has double pain. But still, I was hoping that working on the documentary would also see him working through those issues. That would have been an appropriate thematic way for Ji-Woong to get insight for this series, which centers around filming real lives.
Then, in my imagined rewriting, when Ji-Woong's mother came and asked him to film her prior to her impending death, the documentary format as a way to understand even the filmmaker's own life would have been an even stronger theme.
But maybe I am demanding too neat a wrap-up from this romance, which is more subtle than many. I'm still hoping for a completely happy ending though!

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@hacja - In my imagination, I am crowdfunding (btw, going nicely😂) your salary for that rewrite!
I enjoy your writing.

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Thanks! I hope you don't mind if I use the huge amount of money you are raising to launch my career as a K-Drama star (Anglo male lead for the always popular granny romances). Either that, or I could portray a foreign pop idol in a sageuk!

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@hacja: Haha - I hope you actually do write in your RL and will achieve your dreams. May your pen be mighty and work for good! Also, if I were wealthy, I would totally be your kind patron!

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Yes!! The jujube tea-sleepover scene is what made me laugh out loud! Now I remember. That was so well-played and why I love this drama. Gonna have to go watch it again!

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I can watch Yeon Soo and Ung together on loop. They are my happy pill. Ever since they got back together, my heart has been a happy place. I see where the story is going for our leads. They are both actively working on their relationship which is a good sign. Yeon Soo overcoming her issues will not be easy but i know she can overcome it with Woong's help. Both have grown so much and I just want them to be happy together. They both need each other so much.

Eunho and SolYi scenes were my next fave. The show has been hinting on them being a thing from the beginning. However that will happen, I will root for them.

JiUng has been amazing this week. He gave sound advice to his fellow heartbreak club member, NJ. They are good together and hopefully they retain the friendship. God knows they need a friend that will not judge at this time. I hope he overcome his mommy issues as well. I still hold hope for him and ChaeRan to have development at the end of the final episode.

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This week my heart belongs to Ji Woong and NJ. The dinner and editing room scene hurt, and so did NJ’s voiceover scene. How can someone so young be so jaded like that. And damn the one w Grandma and Yeon Su, just keep stomping on my heart will you Show..

On the flip side, i loved Eun Ho’s reaction to the reunion. For once, Woong had to be the one cajoling Eun Ho instead of the other way. I’m so glad Yeon Su’s weird attempt at being new lasted all of One Date and Woong set her straight immediately.

Last point, Jin Joo might not be a lead yet but i swear she always gets the best supporting roles.

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I think she has the best supporting roles because she can choose them and they’re only good because she’s doing them.

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I agree

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If next week’s episodes hold up this level of perfection this will be one of my all-time favorite dramas.

For me, the low points this week were the time spent on Ji-woong. I am interested to see how it works out with his mother, because I think his character allows more empathy when his story is focused on their relationship. His pining over Yeon-su isn’t as effective because there is no push/pull (she has never expressed any interest in being more than friends). His mother, on the other hand, keeps coming in and out of his life, giving him hope and then taking it away. That is where I can feel deeply for him.

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totallt agree.

with this week's episodes, I feel like the drama almost missed the timing to "end" his unrequited love arc. now we only have two episodes to deal with this bomb of him having to deal with his mom's death. when he decided to change the doc, when that writer told him it was boring and that he should follow the leads gaze, etc, to me that was the point when his character was closing the crush chapter. then we could have his mom back and time to actually dive into this story, which was always more interesting than his crush bcs, as you said, it was never EVER something he had any chance of winning lol

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I had the same thought that they missed the timing to move on from the crush--and I think you pegged it, it should have happened when he was re-editing. With only 2 episodes left there isn't a lot of time for him to grow from whatever happens with his mom. His trauma is just as deep as YS's and we've had the whole show to watch her come to terms with her past.

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The friend who shoots the film - Ji Woong - is a creep!...

He has known and has been witness to the intimate moments between YS and CU (CWS's character is Choi Ung right?) since school - holding hands, kissing in the rain and knows both love each other. But it doesn't come to be. He represses his feelings and as YS has moved out of the neighbourhood can continue with his life.

Once YS is back, he cunningly coaxes CU and YS to do the docu together as he again cannot resist, becomes the voyeur again. THe anger and sense of betrayal that he wasn't there to witness - his glaring eyes when he seems them that night together , without his knowing, without his filming made for such a creepy moment.

Guys like Ji-Woong who don't tell anything or just evade direct answers can turn violent anytime and this actor paying him conveys this exact tone perfectly. It is scary and not sure about the assistant but would make more sense if she taps him out of his creepy funk rather than offering to be a 'replacement' gf. He needs therapy, and needs to communicate and stop being voyeuristic. YS and CU are surprisingly unable to see this in him or ignore it, not sure yet.

Anyway the leads so good together and to live in that kind of house only being an artist is fantasy's fantasy even for k drama tropes. Not to mention their coats and attires too.

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I, too, have had enough of seeing Ji-woong suffer. I do appreciate that the show is realistically portraying how difficult it is to let go of longstanding feelings for someone who doesn't reciprocate, but he desperately needs to move on for good. Or he needs to tell Yeon-su how he feels, see if she reciprocates (we know she doesn't, but I think part of him keeps hoping and believing that maybe deep down she does), and then move on.

I also know that feelings have to happen organically and just because his assistant cares for him and has a similar personality it doesn't mean he will be able to fall in love with her. However, I wish he would, lol.

NJ is a great character and well acted. As someone who has no interest in kpop, I've come to think of idol characters in dramas and their stories as very predictable and uninteresting. But NJ feels real to me at this point, and I emphasize with her pain.

As always, I love the understated sadness and comedy at the heart of this show.

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The character development is so beautiful especially for the main characters.. i thought they will take the traditional kdrama route and break them up in the last few episodes over some petty reason or noble idiocy because they can't think of anything better to do with the characters after they get together. But instead OBS are showing what they can show after they get together.. we the audience would love to see their life post getting together.. their dates, their cuddly and cute scenes , their insecurities etc... Totally digging how OBS is subtly showing us character development, and a realistic scenario of what highs and lows you will face when you get back with someone you always loved. like for example slowly and gently confront your past so that you can learn from it.
And Choi Ung is the best person to make Yeounsu open up and confront her past and issues, he really loves her and he is patient and he is willing to wait for her to open up while Yeonsu is not going to do the same mistake , she will not loose to her insecurities but it's hard for her to still fully open up because she grew up in such a hard life, she had no parents , no real friends and they were poor. So it's still hard for her to fully open up and she is still scared to be left alone but I think she is not being able to help herself and slowly finding herself replying on Choi Ung because of his persistence and his support. I think the real test will come when she is hit with a tragedy which I am predicting will happen.
My waterworks again starts when Yeonsu pleads her grandmother not to leave her 😭😭 and also where she confesses to Choi Ung why she broke up with him. She deserves so much love and happiness.

I think I am in denial that this drama is coming to an end in next week.

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Well we can't be safe yet as Ung is looking to apply for study in France...Will Youn Su follow him there or keep a long distance relationship or break up yet again?

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Am I the only one who just doesn't feel bad for Ji-Ung? Like what relationship did he really have with Yeonsu when they were in high school to make him fall madly in love with her. Like why does he even like/love her? All we were shown is that he saw her and liked her because she was pretty. Then he gave her a rubber band for her hair. He noticed early on that Ung noticed her too. Once they started doing the documentary he kept his distance. Like that is his fault. It urks me.. all this moping and looking sad and bitterness he is having. He is the one who is causing it. Once he saw that they liked each other. He should have let it go and actually tried to move on. Instead he allowed himself to continue like his friend's girlfriend and then caused himself to fall in love with her. They didn't even have much interaction with each other. It's ridiculous. 10 years?!? 10 years he couldn't get over this crush?? He definitely was happy that they broke up and was low key trying to move in on her on the sly. And now that they are back together he acting salty and distant. It's annoying the crap out of me lol. Like like the girl who works for you likes you. She is right there!! And I also don't feel bad for NJ either. He gave her plenty of hints he isn't interested in her. She just kept being the one chasing.

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Not chasing but pursuing him.

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I tend to shout at the t.v. screen with Ji-ung, as I do with all these type of characters in K-dramas. I'm particularly bothered by his behavior with his mother, with whom he goes beyond the amount of coldness you might expect given the pain she caused him, and is actually belligerently hostile. Why isn't he at least curious, as an adult, why she behaved as she did? It seems he's just dismissed her as an overall bad person, without even trying to find out more about her. He might not forgive her, but at least he would understand.
But I guess that fits with the way he's portrayed. He's in love with the image of himself as a tragic figure--neglected as a child, spurned in love. I have actually known guys like that, and they are just as frustrating in real life as in fiction. It becomes part of their identity so they actually relish the pain they are in, to the great annoyance of those around them! I assume the show will have him realize how self-destructive that thinking is, since that's one of the lessons k-dramas always try to teach, but it wouldn't be unrealistic if not.

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@hacja Exactly this. Sometimes I feel than rather to develop real feelings for her, JW is just using YS as an excuse to justify his resentment towards Woong.

The show makes an outstanding job on showing how deeply affected JW was by Woong when they were kids. Feelings JW had to force himself to discard because of Woong and his family generosity. Which kind of jerk would hate on the friend willing to share his whole life with you?

But in reality, and despite the confort Woong could provide to JW, it also emphasized his feelings of lacking. At some degree I feel he might have been more confortable with hating Woong in the distance than to have to share his life with him, but feeling always like the charity case.

But then YS comes. Despite of her initial attraction, I don't think his feelings would have grow this deep if it wasn't for the fact she was Woong's girlfriend. Suddenly there is one thing Woong isn't willing to share, so JW can openly hate that he has something he doesn't.

My main problem with this narrative is how JW has proceed since meeting YS again. He has been intentionally petty and hostile towards Woong and Yeon-Su in so many occasions. He acts almost amused when they're jealous, when they can't face their feelings, when they're angry at each other.

He intentionally grew a distance with Woong while actively pursuing his ex-girlfriend. He demands attention from YS (I still cringe at the scene of him confessing his hate to his mother to YS in the middle of the street). He manipulates the documentary to show the story he would like to see; the story of two people who shouldn't be together.

Its hard for me to reinvidicate JW or feel sorry for him while he seems to be so perfectly confortable in his resentment. I don't really think he is "suffering from heartbreak" but from envy.

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💯💯

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In the webtoon they kinda show a
little bit here and there of JW interaction with YS during high school. I think that’s probably how his crush towards YS grew. YS always go to JW for information about CW. I think reading the webtoon really help viewers to understand some of the context we’ve been missing out and help understand the character better. Sorry I just feel the need to defend JW because I relate to him in some ways hehe :’)

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@kkamiiiii Completely agree with you. As I wrote below, I don't really think JW is inlove with Yeon-Su, he just wants Woong's life.

I find it hard to feel sorry for him because I can't seen to find in him any redeeming qualities. He haven't been a good friend to Woong despite of his generosity. He is unnecessary hostile, petty and mean.

In reality, JW doesn't really seem to be kind and considerate to anyone unless there's something in it for him. He is to Woong's parents because they were kind to him. He is to YS because he likes her. But he doesn't really seem to be this open with anyone else.

He acts out angry and resented. It also almost look like he feels entitled to claim anything for himself just because he had a lousy childhood. The way he pursues Yeon-Su on Woong's back is a pain to see.

He claims to be disgusted with himself because he likes her, but still, he was lowkey trying to date her through the whole making of the documentary, making excuses for them to be alone, intentionally looking to create a breach between Woong and Yeon-Su (like when he filmed NJ on Woong's house).

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Same here! I got frustrated with Ji- woong those two episodes, like dude, move on !!! Yeon-su never even thought of you as more than her bf's friend! I mean, I understood at first, but now I think it took to long for this arc to be resolved and it's super annoying. His brooding definitely turned me off and unfortunately impacts how I am starting to feel about this drama, which I initially liked a lot 😏

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I was honestly so traumatized by The Red Sleeve's finale (not that I don't like it) that i was so scared for the 13th and 14th episode after the 12th episode bliss. It's like i don't let myself bask in their happiness bcs i was so sure smth was gonna happen *sigh*

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I already put it on my wall, so sorry for people who already watched it, but I love this live version. She looks nervous but she killed it : Janet Suhh singing live Home (the OST 6) on Sketchbook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDk_VnQACcw

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